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Speaker 2: No? I just so you and me both don't keep calendars.

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Speaker 1: What are you wearing on your own?

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Speaker 2: Just a little thing I wear when I'm not around you, guys?

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Speaker 2: No? I did this. I do this all the time

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Speaker 2: it's hilarious. So what that does is it keeps me

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Speaker 2: do you want to go over to my cousins on Saturday?

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Speaker 2: Then on Sunday do you want to do this? And

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Speaker 2: You know what? I don't keep a calendar, so I

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Speaker 1: You're right. I my wife, this is what she does.

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Speaker 1: She gets mad at me for not keeping a calendar,

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Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, I'm gonna get organized

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Speaker 1: Literally loser, I know, trust me. I felt like a

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Speaker 1: like on a Saturday at two o'clock, and I'd be

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Speaker 1: And be like, hey, man, I got to be over

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Speaker 1: Literally have no idea. Like I literally would go in

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Speaker 2: He never stayed till eleven. Well, I have my own

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Speaker 1: Which I am like, well, then you're not getting paid.

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Speaker 1: When you're at a twenty four hour Walmart, you don't

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Speaker 2: You know how I did my clocking out early with radio.

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Speaker 2: The Astros announcer all right, that's your game, Astros four.

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Speaker 1: My favorite part of that was when you said you

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Speaker 2: Then I mean, that's like a fireable offense. Hold on.

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Speaker 2: But when you're getting into the ten, ten thirty to

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Speaker 1: That's thirty minutes of the party starting. That started, that's all.

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Speaker 2: That's with your friends faking like you don't have a

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Speaker 2: job that you have to work at. Eleven's here. Hey man,

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Speaker 2: I'm just running to get an alcohol. What are you

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Speaker 2: bros up to? I'm actually working my job, all right,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna dip out of here. Where have you been at? Oh,

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Speaker 2: the liquor store, man, the line was crazy long. That's weird.

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Speaker 1: I meant the gas station man, the gas.

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Speaker 2: Mixed up all the time. Yeah, I wasn't working. Why

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Speaker 1: No, dude, Yeah, And so I got organized, man, and

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Speaker 1: I had this planner. It was a nice planner probably

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Speaker 1: you know, got it from UTSA and I wrote all

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Speaker 1: the dates in it had everything mapped out. It was beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It was in my car. I had that thing two

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It was a homeless person for firewood.

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Speaker 1: So they knew exactly when I had to work. They

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Speaker 2: I'm getting followed right now. This guy's gonna drag Gilby.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't about me being followed. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I take off mirls.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure they meant to take the planner. They

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Speaker 1: just took the backpack, hoping there was something good in there,

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Speaker 2: To somebody, just don't take my life.

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Speaker 1: And they probably opened up the backpack of the night

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Speaker 1: I get it, I understand, but you'd worked all that time.

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Speaker 1: I took that as a sign from God that I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding. I was about to say, my

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Speaker 2: reason I don't have a schedule a planner is a

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Speaker 2: come to Jesus moment. Yeah. And I had it in

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Speaker 2: they go, oh my gosh, look what Ray keeps. And

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Speaker 1: What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most

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Speaker 1: they're like, ah, set is traffic. I'll go down to

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Speaker 2: At this one high school, this dude that I know,

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Speaker 2: In high school, got it. You could only park certain

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Speaker 2: I mean, why fight it every day? Oh I don't

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Speaker 1: That's that do need? Was that dude you? No?

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Speaker 2: Whoa dad? You were by?

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Speaker 1: Well, No, that was not what I found out about

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Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing that box.

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Speaker 1: She goes, I think I would have put the kebash

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: And she said, I was just, you know, setting the

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Speaker 2: You cold food. So they're already dating.

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Speaker 1: And I said, what do you mean you should have

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Speaker 1: so summer after we graduate, we're still dating. And it's

434
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Speaker 1: my birthday, my eighteenth birthday, and he says, hey, let

435
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 1: me take you out to dinner. So they go out

436
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Speaker 1: to dinner at a seafood restaurant.

437
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 2: Whoa they were dating before eighteen.

438
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 1: My dad was eighteen, she was seventeen shoes and they

439
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 1: go out to a seafood restaurant and they have the

440
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: menus and my dad's like, oh, what are you thinking about.

441
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 2: Getting seafood and you eat it?

442
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 1: And she said, oh, I'm thinking about and getting the lobster,

443
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 1: and my dad goes, oof, I can't really afford that.

444
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: You gotta know that's coming at a seafood spot.

445
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 1: And my mom's like, oh, okay, cool. So the waiter

446
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 1: comes up, oh you know you guys celebrating anything tonight

447
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: and my dad's like, yeah, it's her birthday, happy eighteenth birthday.

448
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 1: And he's like oh cool, Like do you know what

449
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 1: you want it to eat, And my mom's.

450
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: Like, oh, take a house salad.

451
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 1: She goes, I'll take the red snapper, and she tells me,

452
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't even She goes, I didn't even like red snapper,

453
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: but it was cheap enough because he couldn't afford the lobster.

454
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,479
Speaker 1: And I was trying to be nice. We were new,

455
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, only dating three months and we were only eighteens.

456
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: Totally understand him not being able to afford the lobster,

457
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 1: and okay, cool, what side did you want with that?

458
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 1: Rides down the sides? Oh, yes, buttermilk biscuit, and then

459
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, red lobster was around back then. And

460
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: then go sir, what are you gonna have tonight? And

461
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 1: my dad said, I'll take the lobster.

462
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Speaker 3: Ah, and she said that she was.

463
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Speaker 1: She was like, what the do you mean? You'll take

464
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Speaker 1: the lobster. And so she sat there and ate the

465
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: red snapper that she does not like, while he sat

466
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: there and chowed down on the lobster. And she said,

467
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: later I talked to him about it. I was like, hey, like,

468
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: at dinner, you said when I thought about getting the

469
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 1: lobster that you couldn't afford the lobster, and he said,

470
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Speaker 1: but what I meant is I couldn't afford two lobsters.

471
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Speaker 1: And she said, right then, I should have known. I

472
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: should have known that I should have left, that your

473
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: dad is the cheapest human being on this planet. But

474
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: I stayed. She goes and then smash cutting them. When

475
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: we have kids, and we'd go through the McDonald's drive

476
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 1: through and you kids would say, I want a cheeseburger,

477
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: and he'd tell you, no, you can have a hamburger

478
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: because it's ten cents cheaper. We can get the cheese

479
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: when we get home. He refused to let us get

480
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: cheeseburgers at McDonald's because we were getting it in the

481
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: drive through and we could get a craft single when

482
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: we got home and throw it on there and make

483
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Speaker 1: a cheeseburger ten cents safe.

484
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Speaker 2: We're saying, bo. We never were allowed to order drinks.

485
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 2: We'd always just get waters at fast food because it

486
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 2: drinks or how my dad would say, the drinks are

487
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: how they get.

488
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: You, that's how they make their money.

489
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: No, no, so he wouldn't let us get drinks. And

490
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: then Baser when we started dating and got engaged and married,

491
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: Bazer would make a point she would get a milkshake

492
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Speaker 2: every time we'd go out and eat. Oh, and I'm

493
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: like that probably even though my dad's retired now and

494
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: we're working off the four oh one k, that probably

495
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: still hurts him to this day because he still just

496
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: orders water. He thinks that's how you out smart the restaurants. Oh,

497
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 2: the craft cheese is pretty good though, cause it's only

498
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: a cent. Yes.

499
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, because it's you, your brother, and

500
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: your sister. You all wanted a cheeseburger. That's thirty cents.

501
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: We saved every time we went through the drive through.

502
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Speaker 2: If you're with my dad, order a milkshake, and you

503
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: got to see the look thediot. He'll give anybody. That's

504
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: how they get.

505
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: You, dude. The milkshakes the ice cream is such a

506
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: huge markup. That's why if you own a restaurant, you

507
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: gotta have milkshakes in your restaurant, because you make a

508
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: buttload of money on the markup. It's unbelievable. But yeah,

509
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: I learned that about my dad and I was like, damn,

510
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: that is so hilarious.

511
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: But his was funnier though. The box one wasn't funny.

512
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 2: It's the baby box batter's box.

513
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: Oh no, the batter's box one wasn't funny.

514
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: A old taco and sorry, have a good day at work.

515
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she was setting the standard. And I mean

516
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: obviously my batter's Box was okay with it because here

517
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: they are married with a kid. I mean they are

518
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: you talk so glowingly? No, I mean I would not

519
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: have been there. I would have been out. But after that,

520
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 1: congratulations dad on fifty, here's a marriage. We'll take a break.

521
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: Ray hit me with the crime pod.

522
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: Oh, we've got a crime.

523
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: No, I just thought. Trying to keep ratings up, they

524
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 2: say that's still the number one genre of podcasts crime.

525
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: I haven't really listened to a crime pond in a while. Man.

526
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: The one time I did was COVID baser red COVID

527
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: driving from Detroit because the Southwest had some I don't know,

528
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: pilot strike. So we had to drive from Detroit instead

529
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: of fly to Nashville eight longways. What it's not that bad,

530
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: huh eight hours, eight hours, but we plan on flying.

531
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: That's an hour flight, and so we had to rent

532
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 2: a car. We had to drive to Detroit then rent

533
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: a car. She had COVID the whole time I rocked

534
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: a crime pod. Oh it flew by? Was it good?

535
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 2: What even was it? Was it the Murdoch. It was Murdoch,

536
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: that dude that killed his wife, his son.

537
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: What about the kid that the survivor is only one

538
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 1: surviving son, one surviving buster and he got married right, Yeah,

539
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: and they live in some quiet town.

540
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: He's probably if he has a job, it's a quiet job.

541
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: He probably had a lot of money.

542
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: I just I wonder about him, like, just how do

543
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: you recover after that? Because you lose your dad, your mom, brother,

544
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: and your brother.

545
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: So do you does.

546
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: He have a relationship with his dad or did he

547
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: testify against his dad? I don't know anything about the.

548
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: Murdoch didn't testify against him. They did remain in communication

549
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: through the jail calls. But I heard I saw an

550
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: article recently where they said they haven't talked to maybe

551
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: a year. So there now they're starting to distance away.

552
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: Man, I just god, it's just so crazy, Like what

553
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: makes you get to that point?

554
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: I mean it was the financial It was the son

555
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 2: got in a boat crash, killed a girl, right, so

556
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: the son's going to go to jail. Well, because of discovery,

557
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: you have to show your finances. So the Murdoch guy

558
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: had been he was a lawyer, and he'd been doing

559
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: the shady stuff. Well, the people would getting accidents and

560
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 2: you get him a settlement. Well, he was keeping all

561
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 2: their settlements. And so once the discovery happened, all of

562
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: his financial crimes were about to be outed. And so

563
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: then it was all coming to a head because they go, hey,

564
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 2: we need to see your finances because you have to

565
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: with discovery, you have to show all the money you have.

566
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: And they would have saw all this stuff that didn't

567
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: make any sense, and he would have then gone to jail.

568
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: And it was coming up. It was coming up. He

569
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: was delaying stuff. He kept pushing it off until the

570
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: very day that he had to deliver this check and

571
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: he just didn't have the money because he also had

572
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: a pill addiction. But that money really ain't gonna go

573
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: away that fast. But he was just he was supposed

574
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 2: to give these people three million dollars and he would

575
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: keep the whole thing. So if they were about to

576
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: see these accounts, he was gonna have millions and millions

577
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: of money he wasn't supposed to have. That he couldn't explain.

578
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: And so then with the killing of his son. It

579
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: pushed all that off. So why did he kill his wife?

580
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: The wife was also, she was there and so maybe

581
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: he didn't.

582
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: Plan for her to be so he he killed the

583
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: son and the wife at the same time.

584
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: Yes, so maybe it won two separate times. No, maybe

585
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: it was maybe the wife was never part of the plan.

586
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: But I know killing the son. The son was gonna

587
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: go to jail, but the son, oh, my son was

588
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: gonna go to jail for killing a girl in a boat.

589
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: So he was killing the son.

590
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: So they didn't investigate him, so they wouldn't see his finances,

591
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: so the trial would.

592
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: Just be over. It would be just to delay stuff.

593
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: But eventually they're going to investigate him because he was

594
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: gonna make mistakes, and he did make mistakes and that's

595
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: how they found him out. And so with cell phone,

596
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: there was a couple of mistakes he made. He threw

597
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: a cell phone. They found that he didn't know the

598
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: cell phone was going to ping, and showed that he

599
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 2: went to his mom and dad's house two seconds after

600
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: the murders with clothes and hit him and stuff. And

601
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 2: because he said, oh, I was at the house whole time, well,

602
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: then it showed that he was at the house and

603
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 2: the timing screwed him up, so he did it made

604
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 2: a couple of mistakes, so he could have maybe got

605
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: away with it. But the killing of the sun kept

606
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: his son from going to jail, and the killing of

607
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: the son kept them from investigating his finances. But then

608
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: they still investigated his finances because they tracked the murder

609
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: back to his trial, and then the trial it also

610
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: was a financial crime trial, and then it was also

611
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: the murder the wife though that didn't make a lot

612
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: of sense. Maybe he just thought she was going to

613
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: rat him out, or their marriage was kind of on

614
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: the rocks, a little shaky, but maybe she was just

615
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: accessory of the crime. Damn as a facet dude, they've

616
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: made like five movies off of it. But that was

617
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: the pot I listened to for eight hours.

618
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm wondering if the older son, though, the one

619
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: that's still there, does he make any money off of

620
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: this stuff.

621
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: Or is he just broke Well, here's the thing, because

622
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: he owed so much money. I mean, he owed five

623
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: million dollars to the different people.

624
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: This dude just may not have anything.

625
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: He may not He's still the family was so rich.

626
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: The family is just known in that part of South Carolina.

627
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: I mean, the father was like one of the top lawyers.

628
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: I mean, they just had so much money. And then

629
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: you know, the people that he screwed over, they probably

630
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: get percentages of what he's.

631
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: Right they get, they don't get anywhere near what they

632
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: were supposed to.

633
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: And the son's probably been provided for. But all his

634
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: properties got sold and the son just lives in a

635
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: quiet town now, the one that he didn't kill.

636
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: But the and in the sun. Does he go to

637
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: therapy every day or twice a day? I mean, because

638
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: there is no way you can have a normal life.

639
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: There is no way you can have a normal relationship.

640
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. And then to him being married

641
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: to a chick, she has to deal with all that back.

642
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how people would deal with that.

643
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: And I mean then they were doing even crazier stuff

644
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: that they started to dig into the housekeeper fell and

645
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: cracked her head open, and they said, just how it

646
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,239
Speaker 2: all went down. There was a huge settlement, and he

647
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: immediately said, hey, to her family, I'll get you guys paid.

648
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Even though you're fighting me, I'm gonna help you fight me.

649
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: And got this huge payday and he kept the whole

650
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: thing and kept telling the kids and family, you guys,

651
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: the money's coming, and give them like five thousand dollars.

652
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: They're supposed to like five million. But because she fell

653
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: down the stairs and then people were saying maybe they

654
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: pushed her or it was just an accident and she died,

655
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: and then he'll took the money from his insurance and

656
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: that could have been the one that showed him that

657
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: he could take money from these people because you're supposed

658
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: to hold it. I don't know if you're necessarily holding

659
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: it in uh escrow or something, but you just hold

660
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: it in accounts, and so they then he realized, oh,

661
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: you can just hold it and just never give these

662
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: people the money. That's a weird thing with the lawyer

663
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: system because the lawyers actually get the money from a

664
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: major accident and then it's just your responsibility to give

665
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: it to the victims.

666
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: That's like the DWI dude in Austin. This is alleged

667
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: I am doing music.

668
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: This is this is the biggest thing right now. I'm

669
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: going from my memory allegedly everything everything I said.

670
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're allegedly going to take a break and allegedly

671
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: come right back and I'm gonna tell you what I

672
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: remember from that. I believe it was the DWI dude.

673
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: He used to be a cop and then he became

674
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: a dui lawyer. How to get out of a dui?

675
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: Like what to do?

676
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: He had all these videos, became very popular. He was

677
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: making money. He was huge, and now he's in like

678
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: federal prison because he was like extorting his clients, like

679
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: he was getting like people from foreign countries and like,

680
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: pay me this money, pay me this money. I'll get

681
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: you a better deal. I'll get you a better deal.

682
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: If you give me five thousand dollars, if you give

683
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: me ten thousand dollars, I'll get you a better deal.

684
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: And these people are paying it. And so now he's

685
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: in prison for like ten years. So he went from

686
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: cop to d WI dude to like extortionist. But unbelievable.

687
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 2: Was he getting him a better deal? I don't know.

688
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: Or he was like hey send me or he was

689
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: hitting their families and the other whatever and say hey,

690
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: give me money and I'll get him out of jail.

691
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: And then never. I don't remember exactly, but I remember

692
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: this and I was like, damn, this dude was everywhere.

693
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: He was the most popular dude in Austin for a while.

694
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: DWI dude Call seven seven seven seven seven seven seven

695
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: call seven seven seven seven seven seven seven Dwi dude,

696
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: Jamie Beluga.

697
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: But the murder, I gouty A. He's in jail forever

698
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: because of the crime, because he killed people. Yes, whereas

699
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: before they were just going to find out his finances

700
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: and he probably get fired from his job and it

701
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: was a huge family gig, so he was embarrassed by that.

702
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: Oh and so he would have gone to jail for

703
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: a couple of years now.

704
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: I don't even know if it would have been a

705
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: criminal thing. Oh though financial so he'd got fired from

706
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: his company, but maybe he'd have went for ten years.

707
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: But now he's for life because he killed people. Yeah,

708
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: you're right though. The wife things kind of making me

709
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: think why did he kill her? I think it was

710
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: just because she was right there. Actually I don't know

711
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: the reason he killed her, but the text the whole

712
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: day he said, Hey, come out here. We're gonna go

713
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: check stuff out on the property. Need you to be here,

714
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: That's what it was. The whole reason he got found

715
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: out is he didn't know his son was on a

716
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: snapchat recording and so they had his voice in the background,

717
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: or he could have gotten away with it because like,

718
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: who would kill their own family. So they had that,

719
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 2: they were able to ping his cell phone. And then

720
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: he had closed that the housekeeper saw him throw away.

721
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: So there were three things. Otherwise he would have been

722
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: off scott free, and they probably would have never discovered

723
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: all of his financial crimes. And there was one.

724
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: So there's no such thing as a perfect crime.

725
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: I mean he came close. He made like three mistakes.

726
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: And the other one is at his law office. This

727
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: is interesting, right, Yeah, at his law off. As he

728
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: got away with this for years, scamming these people that say, hey,

729
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: the family's asking where's the check. He'd be like, I

730
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: placed it. He would just tell him, Oh, I sent

731
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 2: it to him. They haven't got it yet. Huh. Oh,

732
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: I just went to their business. I'll run it there.

733
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: And they said he would always run run places. If

734
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 2: you needed him to take a check, like as a courier,

735
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: no problem, he would because he was not doing it.

736
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: He'd be like, I'll take it there. If it was

737
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: an hour drive, I'll take it, and they'd be like.

738
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: He was so nice.

739
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: He'd always tell people he'd drive him the check and

740
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: the like secretaries loved him. They go, you needed to

741
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: take some always driving taking stuff there, Well, they said.

742
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: One time, the lady goes to move a pile of

743
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: his papers and just floating in the air was the

744
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: check that he had been promised for the last four

745
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: months that they couldn't find. And he goes, I don't

746
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: want to write him another check. It could overdraft, it

747
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: could be a double check that he lied about and said,

748
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: I gave it to him. It's on them. They the mail,

749
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: let's check the mail. The check came floating down from

750
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: the papers onto the floor and she's like, this is

751
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: the check for the last six months we've been looking for.

752
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: And that's then how she started investing. Wow, So he

753
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: was like four mistakes, check floating in the air. He

754
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: didn't know his son was on Snapchat and it recorded

755
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: his voice being at the scene of the crime. He

756
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: didn't know his cell phone was going to pick up

757
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: where he exactly he threw it. And then also the

758
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: on star in his vehicle recorded how fast he was going,

759
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: him going ninety miles an hour to his parents' house.

760
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: My so then that all happens right, and he thinks okay.

761
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: But now that he's sitting in prison, is he sitting

762
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: there going the hell was I doing?

763
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: I just why did I do that? He he was

764
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: gonna lose three things. He was gonna lose the family company.

765
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: Because all right, no, I understand that.

766
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: But he was gonna lose millions of dollars. Okay, fine,

767
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: And then he was his son, was gonna go to

768
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 2: jail for the Dui boat craw right.

769
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: But now he's lost his son, his wife, he's in

770
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: prison forever, he's he he killed people. Does he sit

771
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: in prison like, is there a moment in prison where

772
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: he's just like, man, I think I overreacted or does

773
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: he still sit there and go, I didn't do it.

774
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: Has he convinced himself he really didn't do it.

775
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: No, yes, he's convinced himself he didn't do it, because

776
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: he's still trying to do appeals. You know, you see

777
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: U stuff in daily mail to be like Murdoch, this

778
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: Murdoch that the one of the jurors, the lady like

779
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: you know, they're trying to get one. I believe the

780
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: lady that transcribes it all. She was talking and they go, oh,

781
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: she wasn't supposed to talk. So they're trying to do it.

782
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: Throw this out, throw that out. He's still going after

783
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: it because he's a lawyer. He knows there's all these

784
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: different angles, you know. But we watched the case. It

785
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty three read as we were looking

786
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: for land. We watched it all on c SPAN. And

787
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: then since then they've come out with a lifetime movie

788
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: maybe in Netflix, all of them, they all and then

789
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 2: they did one that was real time. They did they

790
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: interviewed the girl, the girl that was on the boat

791
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: of the crash, and the survivors and what they thought

792
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: of it, and what the people were like and how

793
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: their lives have changed and their parents. Their parents are like, yeah,

794
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: they were always scummy people when we tried to talk money,

795
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: you know, they're you know there. And then so they

796
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: interviewed the people around him. That was fascinating. It's one

797
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: of the most fascinating cases. That's how I was able

798
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: to get to from Detroit to Nashville with Baser having COVID.

799
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: I wonder if anybody like listens to this on road trips.

800
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, I almost fell asleep. Probably not,

801
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: because this is the best damn pot out there. So yeah,

802
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: speaking of I'm gonna go run this check over there,

803
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: so I will be right back.

804
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: You have a great day.

805
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go run this check real quick. Okay.

806
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: He was always super nice when people needed a check.

807
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: Hit drive it an hour doing.

808
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm about to head out to Murphy's Borough. I

809
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: got to deliver this check.

810
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: So that's fuddy, that's fuddy.

811
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, many did.

812
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: You get that check me and Beazer sent you.

813
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: I know, man, I haven't got it. I'll run it

814
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: over all right, Hey, maybe got lost in the mail.

815
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: Hey man, you know, hey, you know that that check

816
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: from Miguel like where he was gonna pay. Yeah, I

817
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: still haven't got it yet. Man, that's weird landing locer,

818
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I mean, he was

819
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: supposed to give me a check three years ago. I

820
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: haven't seen him since. Man, it's weird tall guy at

821
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: his check that bounce for sure.

822
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: People that wanted refunds that checks in the mail, I'll say,

823
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: I'll drive it to them. Oh yeah, you're not enjoying

824
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: the podcast.

825
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will bring it. I will deliver it to

826
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: your door. Just email us. We are the Sore Losers

827
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. And I will get it right

828
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: out to you man,