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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray, that defender is in multiple pieces. All

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Speaker 2: that was nasty right there? Rights slam on the ground

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Speaker 2: by fooda baker like a torpedo. He came flying into

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Speaker 2: the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: Let's start by taking role, not just because it's the

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Speaker 2: first week of school, but so because there's a new

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Speaker 2: depth chart out. So I mean, okay, Polly podcasts still here,

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Speaker 2: accounted for and reporting for Cardinals Underground. We know Danny

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Speaker 2: siregis here because the biggest ISOCM is in use and

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Speaker 2: this our.

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Speaker 3: ISO cameras are the same size Paul.

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Speaker 2: Danny doesn't go anywhere without her specific ISO cam. As

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Speaker 2: we learned last week.

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Speaker 4: I have the smallest lens.

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Speaker 2: It looks like Darren Urban. Now there is a question

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Speaker 2: Darren as to you know whether you're gonna be sitting

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Speaker 2: out the preseason with your veteran status, whether you might

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Speaker 2: be in the back of the press box on game day.

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Speaker 4: I've only got about thirty snaps in me to be

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Speaker 4: really effective.

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Speaker 2: Street clothes and some fower seeds in the back of

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Speaker 2: the press box. You can let Zach Gershman maybe take

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Speaker 2: over and force on game day.

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Speaker 4: In the preseason, let me I will I will say

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Speaker 4: this that we haven't had any cuts yet. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the depth chart is the depth chart. The Cardinals put

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Speaker 4: out a depth chart with twelve starters on defense. So

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Speaker 4: I first of all, if they have twelve starters on defense,

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Speaker 4: I guarantee you they're going to take a jump like we.

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Speaker 3: All expect quat advantage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is well. I mean, if we had the

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Speaker 2: replacement rests from ten years ago, they probably could get

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Speaker 2: away with tall players on defense, and the replacment rests

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Speaker 2: never would have noticed this.

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Speaker 4: This is not football related, but I wanted to bring

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Speaker 4: this up off the top speaking of like being veterans

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Speaker 4: and kind of being old school new school, Like we

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Speaker 4: all go to the gym and you see a like, okay,

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Speaker 4: you can have wireless headphones now correct, Like you can

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Speaker 4: bluetooth pretty much anything to your phone. Heck, you can

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Speaker 4: have the headphones that are like self contained, you don't

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Speaker 4: even need your phone, and you can play radio or

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Speaker 4: music through it. I every once in a while you

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Speaker 4: see the wired headphones and you're like, okay, like I

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Speaker 4: get it. I think I would probably move past that

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Speaker 4: at this point, especially when you're at the gym, you

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Speaker 4: what you're doing. I was at the gym. I saw

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Speaker 4: they were over the over the ear headphones, so not

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Speaker 4: ears wired connected to don't say it, a laptop. And

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Speaker 4: as this gentleman went from machine.

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Speaker 3: To machine where he put the laptop.

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Speaker 4: It was open in like a v and then he

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Speaker 4: he was working out. That's a first for me. Like

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Speaker 4: I've seen people with laptops at the gym because they

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Speaker 4: But I've never seen anybody doing machines with it, and

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's light years ahead of us. I will say,

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Speaker 3: in an almost backwards way, wired headphones are becoming trendy.

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Speaker 3: They are making a comeback. Some people think that, like

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Speaker 3: don't know, but I will say wired headphones are making

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Speaker 4: I don't really have an issue with wired headphones having

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Speaker 3: Even better if he was playing like a DVD in

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Speaker 4: So I just had to get that out over the top.

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Speaker 2: There's also Jim Dude who walks around with a big

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Speaker 2: he drops it at every station. Dude, there's a locker

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Speaker 2: the only guy in the gym though that had and

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Speaker 2: he has neither headphones nor earbuds in I'm the only one.

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Speaker 4: Oh, so you just raw dog the whole work.

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Speaker 3: You don't listen to music while you work out.

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Speaker 2: I figure, you know what, I blow out my ears

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Speaker 2: enough with headphones on all the time, because for a

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Speaker 3: So like, if you're you just listen to yourself, like

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Speaker 2: Or where do you think I come up with all

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Speaker 2: this great analysis? That's my time to you know, it's

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Speaker 3: It's actually insane behavior.

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Speaker 2: You don't understand the insanity of.

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Speaker 3: Behavior segment that would be on it.

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Speaker 2: I mean the volume level. You think it's loud on

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Underground, just come over to COSAKELVC okay twenty four

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Speaker 2: to seven. So I need the peace and quiet for

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Speaker 2: at least an hour.

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Speaker 4: I will say, I am somebody. I don't have a

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Speaker 4: in it. And also that's the best way to like

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Speaker 4: let everybody know that that's your what you're using there.

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Speaker 3: So the major takeaway from this is that we all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a.

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Speaker 4: That's the major take that is. And I don't use

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Speaker 3: Let's hear policy.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to derail us, but I

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Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, you did mention something I also

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Speaker 2: have an issue with, and that is twelve players on

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Speaker 3: We'll take a pall good work.

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Speaker 2: I mean, why not thirteen? Why not fourteen? Why not fifteen?

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Speaker 2: This is a dangerous precedent. I'm here to say, if

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Speaker 4: This has spoken like a true guy who's about to

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Speaker 4: handle play by playing the preseason, and he's already frustrated

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Speaker 4: with because here's the problem with the twelve. It's not

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Speaker 4: you would actually have on the field. It also jacks

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Speaker 4: you've got twelve as the first string, you also have

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Speaker 4: twelve as the second string, And now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: it's a lot harder to figure out all like who

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Speaker 4: are your true backups and who's a really a third stringer.

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Speaker 2: Or you could make like the Colts and their two

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Speaker 2: headed quarterback race, just put the word or on the

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Speaker 4: They've done that before here.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, and they've done that. I actually would prefer

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Speaker 2: that them just adding an extra player to one side

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Speaker 4: Well, the problem with it is is they want to

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Speaker 4: give the three cornerbacks all their flowers for starting, but

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Speaker 4: they also want to have two starting inside linebackers.

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Speaker 2: The extra is But yeah, I get it, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not here to complain because you know, oh we are.

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Speaker 4: Here to complain. That is one of the things.

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Speaker 2: So far more pads, more better if you will, you know,

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Speaker 2: a couple of days in a row of pads, and

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Speaker 2: know we're here for it. Now. I think the question is,

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Speaker 2: all right, what are the starters going to play? In

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Speaker 2: the preseason games? We saw the Bengals breaking with what

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Speaker 2: i mean just annual slow starts ohing two, one and three.

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Speaker 2: So now all of a sudden Joe Burrow and company

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Speaker 2: are going to play in the preseason. Now we play

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Speaker 2: in the opener, play more in game two. So what

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Speaker 2: does that mean? We know the team coming in off

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Speaker 2: the bad Andy Reid. I mean, he's legendary for playing

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and company in the preseason. I heard.

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Speaker 4: I have not seen this myself, but I heard that

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Speaker 4: he's already said obviously Mahones not too. But he said

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Speaker 4: the majority of the starters are going to play the

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Speaker 4: whole first half.

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Speaker 2: Darn tutin here, that's what he does normally.

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Speaker 4: Now, I do think there's been a swing. It seems

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Speaker 4: like there's going to swing across the league of like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: we need to get these guys some playing time as

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Speaker 4: opposed to never. The question is, do the Cardinals, more importantly,

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Speaker 4: for somebody who's doing play by play and would like

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Speaker 4: to prepare and has twelve defenders.

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Speaker 2: To deal with, we're ready for anything.

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Speaker 4: Does Jonathan Gannon forget whether he plays them or not?

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Speaker 4: Does Jonathan Gannon tell us whether he's going to play

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Speaker 2: It's a good point. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a preseason game, you're not game planning.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure what's to benefit or gain from.

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Speaker 4: Not say anything right because he doesn't like to.

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Speaker 2: I mean, why gamesmanship if you're not even game planning.

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Speaker 3: Well, Gannon even said that we're not gonna throw even

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Speaker 3: to do on third down because they're trying to focus

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Speaker 3: on themselves. That's pretty much what every team is doing.

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Speaker 3: No one is really game planning for these preseason games.

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Speaker 3: It would be similar to Zach Taylor with the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: It would be new for a think Gannon led Cardinals

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Speaker 3: team to play their starters in theason.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Early I remember Kyler Murray was rehabing that knee, so

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Speaker 3: that was part of the reason he didn't start. Even

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Speaker 3: last year, rookie ride receiver Marvin Harrison Junior did not

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Speaker 3: was just to get into the rhythm and the scheduling

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Speaker 3: of everything, but didn't play really in the preseason. None

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Speaker 3: of the starters did. That would be new. There's benefit

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Speaker 3: to that of one getting used to the schedule and

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Speaker 3: the field and maybe shaking off any sort of nerves

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Speaker 3: working through any sort of communication king, especially when you've

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Speaker 3: got a new Green Dot and MacWilson Senior, and just

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Speaker 3: kind of making sure those mechanics are as smooth out

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Speaker 3: as possible. You don't need a full game for your

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Speaker 3: starters by any meanings, even a quarter is helpful. It

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Speaker 3: would be interesting, though, if we see that change with Gannon.

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Speaker 4: It's funny. I was thinking, okay, you're you might they

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Speaker 4: of practice, and then you start thinking, okay, even if

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Speaker 4: he was planning on doing this, does he get freaked

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Speaker 4: out enough that, okay, we can't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the original I shouldn't say original plan.

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Speaker 2: Hey, if they need extra receivers. At this point, I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying, Calvicy consulting Polly preseason division. I just did

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Speaker 4: Any number ones?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know there's Rashi Rice, there's Hollywood Brown, right,

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Speaker 2: did not. Now. Did the Cardinals play a lot of

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Speaker 3: Do you remember what was said in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 3: I can work at Isaiah to a Cardinals Underground podcast, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: now here's my question, the whole co RB one thing. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I am a believer. I still don't see this as

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Speaker 3: this is still my this is still my offense. I'm

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Speaker 3: you know Connor is not just good, ready to go

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Speaker 3: through four? Can he do the same weeks fourteen through eighteen?

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Speaker 3: And so that's what this is. I appreciated the fact

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Speaker 4: I agree with you. I appreciated the way he do

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Speaker 4: knows that you've only got so many seasons left in

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Speaker 4: that's being heard. You know that that James Connor is

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Speaker 2: If he picks up where he left off last year,

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Speaker 2: to Danny's point, I like that, Look, this team is

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Speaker 2: I could see that, you know, you ride the young

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing there was a bit of a conversation, maybe

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Speaker 2: not even needed to say, Look, I mean, we've got

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh god, this would be a different conversation if

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Speaker 3: that it is. Again, I don't foresee any games where

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Speaker 4: I don't want to go too far back in time,

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Speaker 2: And go?

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Speaker 4: I guess that's it for me because at the time,

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Speaker 4: the fact that they get the extension done during the season,

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Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think you're in a better place.

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Speaker 4: And again I think he wants to win, and look,

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Speaker 2: What I'm intrigued about is how often are we to

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Speaker 2: you know what, exactly two running backs, you know, two

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Speaker 2: To me, James Connor and Trey Benson on the field

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly how often or how it'll look,

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Speaker 2: Trey McBride said, Hey, we're gonna have more motion to

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Speaker 2: The difference between Trey Benson and James Conner and Connor

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Speaker 2: quite a bit. I think he's a legit NFL Defensive

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Speaker 2: year ago. All of a sudden, you know, to your

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Speaker 4: So that's just the really really extended monologue of all

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Speaker 4: these guys doing the cliche of if we win the accolades, come.

440
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Speaker 2: Yo, there you go. Okay. Other takeaways from the depth chart?

441
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Speaker 2: Anything anything? Do you want to stir anything up, dre

442
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: and get out the soup spoon? Any other death.

443
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Speaker 4: To further is there was there anything? Was there anything

444
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 4: that you're like, Oh, no, there wasn't.

445
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try real hard to have it.

446
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 4: Not based on what we've seen in camp.

447
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 2: Where can I take Umbridge with his step chart?

448
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 4: People people were talking about, oh Will Johnson is listed

449
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,199
Speaker 4: as a as a starting cornerback. Well, yeah, have you

450
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 4: been watching practice for two weeks?

451
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Speaker 3: He's you tell him.

452
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 4: Out there with the first unit.

453
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Speaker 2: Okay, So what jumps out to me when you look

454
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Speaker 2: at the step chart on the defensive side in addition

455
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Speaker 2: to twelve Walter Nole in the third third team, So

456
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 2: that obviously is going to change at some point, hopefully

457
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Speaker 2: sooner than later. So what does that mean for the

458
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 2: Cardinals in terms of I mean you you have a

459
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: lot of defensive linemen who are legitimate NFL players. Yeah,

460
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: does Montios support at some point get preemptive? You know what?

461
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 2: We have some injury issues, a receiver who needs a

462
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: defensive lineman. Maybe what do you got? You start hitting

463
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,959
Speaker 2: the phones. Maybe we need an extra guard, interior offensive lineman.

464
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 2: What do you got, we have a defensive lineman. Are

465
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Speaker 2: you interested? And now he starts hitting the phones over

466
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Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks.

467
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, we already know because it's out

468
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Speaker 4: there that Will Hernandez had a visit to the Cardinals,

469
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 4: he has been signed, he's coming off in acl You know,

470
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,479
Speaker 4: there's how quickly he could be ready to be what

471
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Speaker 4: they want to be. And then what does that mean?

472
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Speaker 4: Like I think Isaiah Adams is going to start a

473
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 4: right guard. I think if Will Hernandez were to come back,

474
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 4: he's probably looked at his depth at this point. And

475
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 4: you know, if you get him in training camp, you're

476
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Speaker 4: in a position where, even if he's not all the

477
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Speaker 4: way ready, you can put him. You can still put

478
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Speaker 4: him on the pup list and that gives you a

479
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 4: little bit of time to get him to where you

480
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 4: need him to be. So I'm curious to know when

481
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 4: you talk about a trade, if they add that depth,

482
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 4: you know, what does that mean? What they've seen with

483
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 4: their guard depth so far? The receiver thing always. You know,

484
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 4: we've we've talked about this now obviously with Wilson and

485
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Speaker 4: Harrison being banged up, you know, I think Jay Jones

486
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Speaker 4: can help them. Do you want Jay Jones being your

487
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 4: number one and then Greg Dort's your number two and

488
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 4: then I don't know who's even your number three at

489
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 4: this point? Like, but the issue that I have with

490
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 4: the wide receiver when everybody says, go sign a wide receiver,

491
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Speaker 4: I'm like, we've talked about this before, Danny, Like, where

492
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 4: would that person fit if you go get And I'm

493
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: just going to throw out a name because that's the

494
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Speaker 4: only one I know off the top of my head,

495
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Speaker 4: But Amari Cooper, Why would a Mary Cooper want to

496
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Speaker 4: come here when his best case scenario if people stay healthy,

497
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Speaker 4: is as the number three and you're above Jay Jones.

498
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Speaker 4: But you're not going to get a lot of targets

499
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Speaker 4: and you may not even be on a field that

500
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 4: much because you're using multiple tight end sets.

501
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Speaker 3: Let me play Devil's advocate. If you're bringing in a

502
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: veteran like that, how would they automatically not? Is it

503
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: possible they're not automatically your number two receiver? What I've

504
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: seen online, which I think is a fair question. We're

505
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 3: talking about the receivers when we talk about depth, and

506
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 3: every position is different of what you need, what this

507
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: offense in this case specifically requires, and what they want.

508
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: It's all a numbers game. We talk about the depth

509
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: at offensive line, the depth they brought in a backup quarterback,

510
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: the depth and cornerbacks, inside linebackers. What's your comfort level

511
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 3: with the depth of wide receiver at first case scenario,

512
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: you have an injury to a top receiver knock on wood,

513
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: what is your comfort level with depth? That is where

514
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: a lot of these discussions of bringing in a veteran

515
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: receiver stem from.

516
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Speaker 4: I totally understand that, But again, what are you telling

517
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: the player that's coming in and does that player want

518
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 4: to do it now? Again, if the player wants a

519
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 4: job and a paycheck, that might be that might impact something.

520
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 4: And we saw last year Jay Jones. I know for

521
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 4: a fact Jay Jones didn't get the kind of targets

522
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 4: or play that he wanted to once he got back

523
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 4: from the suspension. But he was good in the locker room.

524
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Speaker 4: He's good in the room. He showed leadership skills with

525
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 4: the young receivers. He was a good fit for that.

526
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Speaker 4: That's one of the reasons they wanted to bring him back.

527
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Speaker 4: Is there somebody out there that makes sense that is

528
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Speaker 4: willing to be in the locker room and as a

529
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 4: in case of emergency break glass guy. And if nobody,

530
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 4: if there's no emergency, you may not get any you

531
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Speaker 4: might not play much.

532
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Speaker 3: There may not be a player right now for break

533
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Speaker 3: emergency that's available.

534
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Speaker 4: And the other problem you have with that is, again

535
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Speaker 4: I'm throwing a name out just so we can have

536
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 4: this discussion. A Mari Cooper. You can't have a Mari

537
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: Cooper on the roster if he's not getting targets because

538
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 4: he ain't playing special teams, you know, and that's what

539
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 4: you need to be active on game days.

540
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: Well, guess what, though, Xavier Weaver isn't playing special teams

541
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Speaker 2: other than returner. And unless unless Zay Weaver I'm with you,

542
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: beats out DJ Dallas and Mario de Mercado, Greg Dortsch

543
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: one of those primary return roles, he's gonna So if

544
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have that sort of receiver on the roster,

545
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: maybe it's a guy with experience, like a MARII Cooper.

546
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: I get it. I just if you're on the if

547
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Speaker 2: you're on your couch right now and you're a Mari

548
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: Cooper and you're like, you know what, I know Drew Petsien,

549
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: I know Jacoby Brissett pretty well, played with both. You know,

550
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: I've worked with both those guys. And I'm to the

551
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: Cardinals depth chart, and after Marvin Harrison Junior, does AMRII

552
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: Cooper sweat Michael Wilson Zay Jones? With all due respect,

553
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: I mean, there's he puts in a couple of good games.

554
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: He could climb the wide receiver too pretty quickly by

555
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: mid season. If he's a reliable target for a Kyler Murray, I.

556
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Speaker 4: Guess I have Michael Crabtree PTSD.

557
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe a little bit on that. He's about as

558
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: unique a personality as against That's fair.

559
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not trying to put a Marii Cooper

560
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Speaker 4: or whoever.

561
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying they do have intel in terms of

562
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: having worked with Amari Cooper before. So you know, I

563
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: would if they made that move, I would feel pretty

564
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 2: good about it because they have worked with him as

565
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: opposed to Michael Crabtree. Who's right, they are unbeknownst to everyone.

566
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Speaker 4: Who do you cut at wide receiver, Who's who who's

567
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: in danger of not being on the roster if you

568
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 4: bring in another receiver.

569
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Speaker 2: Well, let's I mean, look right now, the made men

570
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: are Marvin Ayrison Junior, Michael Wilson, and after that, I mean,

571
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: you know Jay Jones in terms of the contract status,

572
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: I mean Greg Dorsch. I mean, if you're telling me

573
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper is is gonna play like he has an

574
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: earlier in his career, I mean, I think anything any

575
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: one is up for grabs after the first.

576
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Speaker 4: Two, that's fair. That's fair.

577
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Speaker 3: I will say, don't need to be his long of

578
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 3: discussions of that and not necessarily surprises based on what

579
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 3: we've seen it practice. But looking at the depth chart two,

580
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: just interesting points on the defense of cornerbacks. Is having

581
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: the rookie Denzel Burke and Kee Troll Clark ahead of

582
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Speaker 3: Elijah Jones, who's going Intier two. Didn't have much of

583
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: a rookie season. He was dealing with a foot injury.

584
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 3: He didn't play at all last year. And then similarly

585
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: the outside linebackers room, having rookie Jordan Birch ahead of

586
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: Xavier Thomas going in Tier two not necessarily surprises based

587
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: on what we've seen it practice. Just an interesting that's

588
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 3: fair interesting point to make from the depth chart.

589
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: By the way, Zay Jones has been playing with an

590
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: edge in this camp. He chucked Max Melton in a

591
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: one on one that would have been flagged. I mean

592
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: it was really physical, like overly over above and beyond.

593
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: And then he got in the face of of Garrett

594
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: Williams in the back corner of the end zone after

595
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: they tussled for a football and Garret Williams is celebrating

596
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: and Zay Jones didn't like that.

597
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest, I'm going to disagree with you

598
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: from the standpoint. I think Jay Jones absolutely is on

599
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: this team. I don't. I don't think that's a question.

600
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 4: We can talk about the other receivers and you know,

601
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: some of like uh Semi for Hocojoko, like Jeff Rodgers

602
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 4: wants some special teams guys, and that's a special teams guy.

603
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 4: So but I think Jay Jones is absolutely on this roster.

604
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: Right this bad time because Danny's taken. She's hydrating right now.

605
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: But I think it's time to get cultured. All there,

606
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: good biggest smile of the don't worry everyone.

607
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: When we are back in our studio next week, we

608
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: will have music. So let's just pretend it just wrapped up.

609
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: This is just the basics of camp. We don't need

610
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: no stinking music. Let's go.

611
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: Here's the latest praise. Although I think I'm actually technically

612
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: a little behind in explaining this to both of you boos.

613
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: Do you even know what I'm saying? Is that English

614
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: to you, Paul? Is that register?

615
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: The boo boos? The booboos, boo boos.

616
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I.

617
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: Think they were a punk band out of Scotland in

618
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: this late seventies.

619
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Speaker 3: Close. They are actually collectibles. They are small plush toys

620
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: that are on a keychain. It's a bag charm. They

621
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: have these evil like expressions where they have these sharp

622
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: teeth like coming out over the lips, and they have

623
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: these very expressive faces and they have claws on them.

624
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: The whole point of it, though, is you don't know

625
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: what you're getting. You pay roughly thirty or so dollars,

626
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: there's what and well it's limited quality as well, so

627
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: that that's why people quantity quantity, thank you. Well yeah,

628
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: I don't love the quality, but limited quantity, thank you.

629
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 3: But the whole idea, the fun of it is it's

630
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: a surprise. So you buy this box, you don't know

631
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: which one you're getting, right, and so.

632
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: Then, by the way, thirty dollars a designer drink at

633
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: the bar these days is thirty bucks.

634
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: That's not including the outfits people buy for their And

635
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 3: then if you go on you know, eBay, whatever, you know,

636
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: you find a resaler who's selling them for hundreds, maybe

637
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: one thousand dollars if it's a limited edition. La boo boo.

638
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 4: All right. I know this is way back in the day,

639
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 4: but like this is like a beanie baby's thing and

640
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 4: then like inn five years.

641
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: Except they're carrying them around every It's almost like a

642
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: ton that got you or the.

643
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: Little I got that. But like when you're spending that

644
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: kind of money and then you find out five years

645
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 4: later they're all worth it.

646
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: No, my beanie babies and my parents attic will be

647
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: worth something someday.

648
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: Okay.

649
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: And the last point on getting cultured this week, I

650
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys saw this, but former Dallas

651
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: Cowboys wide receiver Des Bryant and Rabert Nicki Minaj found themselves.

652
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: This was Twitter beat.

653
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 4: I was hoping this was going to get and give.

654
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not really going to go into

655
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Speaker 3: the details. If that intrigues you, you are more than

656
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Speaker 3: welcome to do some personal research.

657
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: I was too busy grinding on the Kansas City Chiefs

658
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: fourteen wide receivers. I missed this go ahead, not me.

659
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: Des Brian essentially called out Jerry Jones regarding the Micah

660
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: Parsons trade request. All of those issues going on, and

661
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: somehow Nicki Minaj found herself involved by in putting herself

662
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: into this situation. So the two of them were kind

663
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: of going back and forth and it got kind of weird.

664
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: It's a lot to keep up with. But if that

665
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: intrigues you, I would recommend going through their Twitter accounts.

666
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, I found himself in some Twitter beef.

667
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: I don't follow nick Minaj, I don't follow Dez Bryant,

668
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: but that all ended up on my timeline. And I

669
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: will say that apparently Nicki Minaj is kind of famous

670
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 4: for like not only inserting herself into conversations that she

671
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: wasn't originally in, but also like after a tweeter two

672
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: going completely like off the rails sideways and talking about

673
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 4: this and this and having some weird photo with it.

674
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Speaker 3: We should clarify, given what we have seen on Twitter

675
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: from Nicki Minaj and from her fans, we are not

676
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: coming for her. We're not criticized because I don't want

677
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: them to come for me. You've both been culture.

678
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 4: Though you're but with it started because of the Micael

679
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: Parsons thing and somehow Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones was saying

680
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: stuff about Des Bryant, who was who was represented by

681
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: rock Nation and jay Z once upon a time and

682
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 4: apparently Nikki is very close to jay Z and.

683
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: The only thing that whole equation is missing post Malone.

684
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: Throw post Malone into that in a Cowboys jersey?

685
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: I mean Cowboys?

686
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: Is it me? Or is post Malone everywhere? Happy Gilmour too?

687
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: Post Malone isn't worn. I am so done with post

688
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: Malone really, I mean, come on.

689
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: I will say that I'm a big fan when we

690
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 4: can weave some sports into getting cultured, that's number one.

691
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: And I will also give a big thanks to Danny

692
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: because she brought up labooboo is because I said the

693
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: other day I'm like, I keep seeing this word on

694
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: my timeline. What is that? And She's like, I don't

695
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: want to get into it, and then she said, I'll

696
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: put it into getting in getting cultured.

697
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: If you want to look up look up pictures of

698
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: them and how they look in the different colors, but

699
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: you've probably seen them in just to know they're they're

700
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: about this big. They are a.

701
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 4: Christmas And now I know there you go.

702
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: A boo boo.

703
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: I'll take it out for target practice. That'll be good. Uh.

704
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: You two need to give thanks that we don't have

705
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: any of that sort of non football narrative or storyline

706
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: to worry about in this gap under Jonathan's money supports.

707
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: There's a lot out remarkably quiet. No, Terry McLaurin, No,

708
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons. I mean the degree to which those topics

709
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: are dominating NFL discussion on the national platforms.

710
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I could I could go on about the

711
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: Cowboys situation in particular. That's what they like. This happens now.

712
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: It doesn't normally get to this kind of level with

713
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones and how he's talking about Parsons and the players.

714
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: But the Cowboys are the talk of the town, they're

715
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: the talk of the nation, Paulin, And that's the goal,

716
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: and that is what that ownership likes. Ill I would

717
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: be surprised if Parsons is not on the Cowboys roster

718
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: active Week one. Especially, they've they've they're going to come

719
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: to a deal. They're not going to trade him.

720
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 4: Terry McLaurin is going to be playing for the Commanders,

721
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson is going to be playing for the Bengals.

722
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 4: Micah Parson's going to be playing for the Cowboys. In

723
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: large part because if you don't play, and you don't,

724
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: if you aren't there, you're losing hundreds of thousands, if

725
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: not millions of dollars. You just I understand what these

726
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 4: players want to do. I will say this, if there

727
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 4: is a player that could really push what he wants

728
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 4: to do, it's Michael Parsons giving his age. There isn't

729
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 4: one team out of the other thirty one that wouldn't

730
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: take Michael Parsons today and pay him what he wants.

731
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Speaker 3: There's one player that could sit out and still benefit.

732
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 4: Yes, and it would be I mean, I will be honest,

733
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: like and Jerry Jones is I'm just gonna say this.

734
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 4: You find Paul, I don't want to say this because

735
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 4: you're usually so like you you.

736
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Speaker 2: You watch your tongue.

737
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 4: You watch your tongue all the time, Paul, But as

738
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: you get older you do care less and less what

739
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 4: people what Here we go just saying what you want

740
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 4: to say. Now Danny does it anyways, depending on her

741
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: as young as she is.

742
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: I mean with Darren's four one k, I mean he

743
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: has the ability.

744
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: You know whatever you want to look into my big

745
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: iso camera. What you're about to say.

746
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones really like that would be frustrating

747
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 4: to hear some of the things he said if you're

748
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 4: a player the last couple of weeks, like he said

749
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: about Michael Parsons, and that's all I'm going to say

750
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: about it, because hey, ain't our business.

751
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: But that is all right, here's my segue. You ready. Yes,

752
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 2: Paris Johnson Junior faced Michah Parsons and pretty much shut

753
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: him down as a rookie. If you guys remember the

754
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: key to that game was really Jesse Luketta, because Jesse

755
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: Lucetta was college roommates with Michael Parsons at Penn State,

756
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: and Jesse Lucetta said, Hey, Paris, come here, I got

757
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: a intel for you and how to play Michael Parsons

758
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: and that was just part of a rookie season where

759
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean Paris Johnson Junior saw anyone in everyone that

760
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: year in terms of, you know, marquee pass rushers, including

761
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald twice. What do you guys think? What's the

762
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: feedback been Paris Johnson Junior? What first time it is?

763
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 2: Careers released? Since high school? He has played the same

764
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: position two years in a row, left tackle? What's was

765
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 2: he the one where Gannon said Mars?

766
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 4: Yes, right, he said his ceiling is really high. I'm

767
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 4: talking Mars and then his next line was, I hope

768
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 4: I'm not making any big statements or I'm paraphrasing.

769
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: It's pretty big Mars.

770
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 4: I hope everybody listening has already read my big story

771
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 4: on Paris Johnson Junior on this subject. If you haven't,

772
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 4: it's on Azycardinals dot Com. So I do appreciate that

773
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 4: tea upright there, Paul. I think it's it's interesting to

774
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: see where Paris goes this season. He has been mentored

775
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 4: by Willie Anderson, who was a three time All Pro

776
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 4: with the Bengals back in the day, and he's been

777
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 4: mentored by Willie Anderson since Paris was a going into

778
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: his sophomore year of high school, and but before he

779
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 4: had played a down of high school football is offensive lineman?

780
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 2: Wow?

781
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 4: And so Willie Anderson has seen it all. I was

782
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 4: able to talk to Willie Anderson, but from the day

783
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 4: that he showed up with Willy Anderson, which was having

784
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: no clue how to play offensive line and was terrible,

785
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,479
Speaker 4: to where he is now where we're talking about can

786
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: he get to elite status? And again, I mean, we're

787
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 4: all gonna say it, like I've been covering this league

788
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: for twenty five years, Paul, you've seen it for just

789
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 4: as long. Like I'm not going to sit here and

790
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 4: say I know just by myself whether a guy is

791
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: an elite past protector or offensive lineman. I don't. I mean,

792
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 4: I can tell if a guy's really crappy, and but

793
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 4: but we just don't know. And I'm not one hundred

794
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 4: percent sure that anybody truly knows, unless you're talking about

795
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: the coaches, because even the other players they see it

796
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: to a certain extent. But just like anything, you don't

797
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: know the alignment everything. But everybody seems to think Paris

798
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 4: Johnson is in a place to take that next level.

799
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: And Willie Anderson was telling me, and he had just

800
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 4: recently talked to Lane Johnson, who obviously is a star

801
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 4: tackle for the Eagles. They both kind of feel like

802
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 4: their light went on at the very end of their

803
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 4: second season and the third season is where they really

804
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 4: took off. That's where we are with Paras Johnson.

805
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 3: It is something to note that in college, no matter

806
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: where Johnson played on the line at Ohio State, he

807
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 3: was incredibly successful inside, outside, left side, right side. Comes

808
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: to the Cardinals, is the right tackle because he still

809
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: have DJ Humphries on the left side, is the only

810
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: offensive lineman to play every snap his rookie year, and

811
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: he looked good to make the switch back over to

812
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: the left side, which is actually where Johnson has said

813
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: he feels most comfortable to make that adjustment and to

814
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: still have a very good second year in the league.

815
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: I do believe that the ceiling is very high of

816
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: what we can expect to see from Johnson year three,

817
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: first time since high school playing in the same position

818
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: back to back years. He's comfortable with the scheme. He

819
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: is comfortable with the timing of his quarter back, who

820
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 3: was very mobile and good with his legs, and how

821
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: to make sure that he's not drawing any sort of

822
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: penalty if Murray is hanging on to the ball. I

823
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: do think it's fair to say that there are high

824
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: expectations of Johnson's play given what we have seen from

825
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 3: him at every point in his career.

826
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the teams in the Cardinals division

827
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: who have really excelled. The Rams are at their best

828
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: when they had Andrew Whitworth at left tackle, the Niners

829
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: with Trent Williams. There's every reason to expect Paris Johnson

830
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: Junior can be that guy at left tackle long term.

831
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: I definitely think Josh Sweat is going to help the process.

832
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 2: And I didn't get this because it was the first

833
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: rep of the first O line D line drill in

834
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: this camp, but not two hours after Jonathan Gannon said

835
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: that Josh Sweat has one of the best speed to

836
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: power moves in the league. He unleashed it on Paris

837
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: Johnson Junior in the first rep and he beat Paris decidedly.

838
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: He beat him and Paris bounced up and you could

839
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: tell he's like, I want to go again, and then

840
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: they did and Paris won the second rep at least stopped,

841
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: but Josh Swett got him, and that's the first time

842
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: I've really seen Paris got got if you will in

843
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: one of those And so for that reason, I do

844
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: think Josh Sweat will make him better by the time

845
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: he gets to the end of the of this Cardinal season.

846
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: I one hundred percent agree with you. And one of

847
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: the reasons I think Josh Sweat will make him better,

848
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 4: or if he ends up having to go against Darius

849
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 4: Robinson or if he sees Klais Campbell atny Is because

850
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: of who Paris is. One of the things that was

851
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: straight across the board. And I know coaches, especially when

852
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: you're doing a story like this, people tend to talk

853
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 4: well about him. But I'm doing the story because he's

854
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 4: good in the first place. So it's not a huge surprise.

855
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: Justin Frye, who coached who is now his offensive line

856
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 4: coach and coach Paris his last year at Ohio State,

857
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 4: said this, Willie Anderson said this, Jonathan Gannon has said this.

858
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: You will not find a harder worker. And even Paris

859
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 4: when I talk to him about how terrible he was

860
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: that very first day, I mean, he's been burning since

861
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: that first day as a sophomore. To be in high

862
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 4: school to be good at this. It pisses him off

863
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 4: when he is not really good. He is extra motivated.

864
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: We can see and Paris. Paris will joke with you

865
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 4: in the locker rooms. He smiles a lot. But make

866
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: no mistake, this guy is ultra serious about what he's

867
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: doing and he absolutely wants to be elite. Now he's

868
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 4: not saying he's there yet. He is not cocky like that,

869
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: but he wants to be that guy.

870
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: On game day, he doesn't talk until it's breaking the

871
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: huddle after team warm ups, before they go back into

872
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: the locker room. He is completely dialed in. He said.

873
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: He does not talk to anyone. He handles his business.

874
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: And when he breaks that huddle and he's leading the

875
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: charge as the alpha male he's been described in that

876
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: offensive line room, that's the first time he's talking on

877
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 3: game day.

878
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: My favorite Storre and I asked him about this recently

879
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: December of his rookie year at Pittsburgh. TJ. Watt second half,

880
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: Cardinal's coming back, Cardinal's going away with the win, and

881
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: the ball had gone downfield, but there on the right side,

882
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: because it was right near the Cardinals sideline, you couldn't

883
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: miss it. It was front and center. There's Paris Johnson Junior.

884
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: He's got TJ. Watt locked up and he's driving him

885
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: towards the sideline and he's not stopping as Paris Johnson

886
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: Junior like to say, I'm gonna throw him out of

887
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 2: the club, and TJ. Watt knows he doesn't have the

888
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: leverage and he goes down purposely. They go down in

889
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: a pile and they start tussling, and then a bunch

890
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: of dudes jumped in. But right there, I'm like, Wow,

891
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: a rookie taking it to TJ. Watt.

892
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 4: One more anecdote from this from when I was doing

893
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 4: the story was Willie Anderson was talking to Paris when

894
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: he was younger, and and Paris has been Paris was

895
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 4: almost six y six when he went he met Willy

896
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 4: Anderson the first time, so going into sophomore year, he

897
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: was already super big. So when he started playing and

898
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: he figured some stuff out, he was dominating, especially his

899
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 4: junior year, and there were a lot of he'd get

900
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: a lot of crap from opposing players and stuff, basically

901
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 4: saying the only reason you're you're doing this is because

902
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 4: you so much bigger than us. You're not that good

903
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah. And he said something to Willy Anderson,

904
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 4: and Willy Anderson said, look, he goes, I was the

905
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: same way. I was the big kid, and everybody told

906
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 4: me that there's two ways to approach it. You can

907
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: just do what you're doing, and if you're soft about

908
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 4: it anyways, they're still gonna give you trash talk. They're

909
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: gonna trash talking no matter what. So you can either

910
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: just go about your business, or you can put on

911
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 4: tape this domination and then not only are you good

912
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 4: on the field, but when they're watching the tape to

913
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: prepare for you, there's a fear factor because you're gonna

914
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: bury them. He goes, if they're gonna say it anyways,

915
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 4: kick their ass every time, drive them into the wall.

916
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 4: I mean, I keep thinking. I think it was the

917
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: Dallas game his rookie year, didn't he take a cornerback

918
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 4: into the wall. I can't remember. It was a Giants

919
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: with Dallas, but one of those two games there was

920
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 4: a play on a touchdown where he just drove this

921
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 4: dude all the way to the wall in the back

922
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: of the end zone. He didn't need to, but he

923
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 4: did it.

924
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: That's right. You shut him down, and that's how you

925
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: showed him up, all right, So that's that's I'm just

926
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: gonna say.

927
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: I'm surprised the anecdote you gave from the Steelers game

928
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: was that and not the two hour rain to lay

929
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: at halftime when you were down on the field. Yeah,

930
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: Darren and I were nice and warm and dry in

931
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: the press box.

932
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, there is There is a Paris components that too.

933
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: I actually I stood next to Paris for shelter in

934
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: that game. Okay, that's how big he is now, This

935
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: second pick of the twenty twenty three draft class, bgo

936
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: Jali couldn't be more of an unknown. I mean what

937
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: I know fans are wondering, all right, Really no answers

938
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: right now as to his status, correct.

939
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 4: I mean, Jonathan Gannon said the other day his rehab

940
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 4: has been awesome, but he's still on POMP. I do

941
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 4: want to say, and we've had this conversation before, and

942
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: we've had about not all knee injuries are the same

943
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 4: and not all ACL injury like, and we've seen it

944
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 4: a million times. There's multi ligaments in there. You can

945
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 4: have your ACL torn, but you can also have other

946
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: things torn. I don't know any specifics about BJ, but

947
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 4: to just say, hey, this guy was on an ACL

948
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: and came back in this amount of time. And this

949
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 4: guy had an ACL and he came back in this

950
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 4: amount of time. So we don't know exactly what all happened,

951
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: but the fact he's on PUP right now, you know.

952
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: And again just as a refresher, they've got three guys

953
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 4: on PUP right now, Belall Nichols, Walter Nolan, bjo Jali.

954
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 4: If you're on PUP, you can remain on PUP to

955
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 4: start the season and you're not wasting a roster spot.

956
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 4: If you are on PUP when the final roster is made,

957
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: you have to stay on the PUP list for at

958
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 4: least four games. That's been shrunk. I think it was

959
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: six originally, so it's only four now. But that's something

960
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: to keep in mind when we do final cuts. If

961
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: they keep, if one of these guys is still on

962
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: PUP when the season starts, they're gonna miss at least

963
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: the first four games.

964
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll tell you what. How about some

965
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: winning behavior and honor of Will Johnson and you know,

966
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: you know I mean Will Johnson. I mean every week

967
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 2: we should have like a face of winning behavior, right,

968
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: someone who has been winning at the game of football.

969
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: So I would you guys agree Will Johnson at this point,

970
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: coming off the Red and White he would be that player, correct.

971
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I'm gonna say this. I'm super conservative and

972
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 4: fans hate me for it. I'm not going to click

973
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 4: bait all over the place about historic training camps. But

974
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 4: Will Johnson, and he's certainly not having a historic training camp.

975
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 4: But Will Johnson looks really damn good, Danny, I mean

976
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: really good.

977
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: In your defense, I'm not sure eight historic training camp

978
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: exists when most of them are in T shirts and

979
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 3: shorts and routes on air. Will Johnson has looked very good.

980
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 3: And what you're talking about that Red and White practice

981
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: was a very nice interception where Johnson had a great read,

982
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 3: came back on in front of the wide receiver or

983
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: snag the interception right as he was going out of bounds.

984
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 3: It was a really nice play. There's a reason Johnson

985
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: has been getting first team reps is he's clearly understanding

986
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: what is being asked of him from the mental standpoint,

987
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: and that's a position room with a lot of competition,

988
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: and as this coaching staff still decides on how they

989
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: want to approach different packages, especially not having two starters

990
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: and Shawn Murphy bunting and Starling Thomas, it's very clear

991
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: that they like well Johnson and what we have seen

992
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 3: of him in practice. I mean, look, he's fluid, he's fast,

993
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 3: he's able to read what the offense is doing. He's

994
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: got good hands. So it'll be interesting to see one

995
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 3: how much he plays in preseason. Going back to the

996
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 3: beginning of how much starters play. If rookies have any

997
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: sort of different rules is not the right word, but

998
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: if they approach rookies any different, that is absolutely a

999
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: player to continue to keep an eye on.

1000
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: I mean, when you say winning behavior, one on ones

1001
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 4: is not a place where defensive back have the upper hand.

1002
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: And when he and it was, I think it was

1003
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: against Tejon Palmer, so not one of the top receivers,

1004
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 4: but still there was a one on one rep last

1005
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 4: week where he essentially ran the route and knocked the

1006
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 4: pass down and the only reason he didn't get the

1007
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 4: pick was because I think the quarterback realized, oh crap,

1008
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 4: Will Johnson ran the route and wasn't a better I mean,

1009
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 4: there was no way the ball was getting to Palmer,

1010
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 4: that's winning behavior.

1011
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: He's been so good. At times I've literally said to

1012
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 2: past a wolf on the sideline, come on, he knew

1013
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: the play. In high school football, we used to call

1014
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: those guys all Americans when the defensive guys knew the

1015
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: plays at some point, you know the plays, right, and

1016
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: then they jumped the play and they make the play. Oh,

1017
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: mister all American. Right, you sniffed it out and you

1018
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: snuffed it out because you knew the play. He's been

1019
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: so good. I've been wait a minute, come on, now,

1020
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 2: the playbook is such that he's so Now he's probably

1021
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: the single player that I want to see the most

1022
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: against Denver in the joint practice. I want to see

1023
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: him against other receivers and how he keeps up and competes.

1024
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: So all right, and honor that winning behavior, which is

1025
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: sort of our way of saying a lot of these

1026
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: examples here display non winning behavior. Where do you guys

1027
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: want we.

1028
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 4: Do end up with a lot of that stuff?

1029
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: We do?

1030
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 4: I do feel we did.

1031
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like Jared Allen's splitting his pants

1032
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 2: on stage in the Hall.

1033
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: Of Fame behavior, you know, why not?

1034
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 4: Its fun?

1035
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: It's fun. Who cares? Into the Hall of Fame.

1036
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: At least was the end seam along the thigh. It

1037
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: could have been a lot worse.

1038
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 4: I will say that Jared Allen is one of those

1039
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 4: guys that can tear his pants and you're like, he

1040
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 4: can work that in, right.

1041
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: Chris Faring he works it in when.

1042
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald goes into the Hall of Fame next year.

1043
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 4: He is not a guy that I think would handle

1044
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 4: splitting his pants.

1045
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: Remind me back in I think it was twenty twenty

1046
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 3: two when we were in Minnesota. Was it Jared Allen

1047
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: who they have right in on the horse?

1048
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 4: Yes, that was the pre game.

1049
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, that's my famous behavior. To me, that's

1050
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: my famous Jeremy Bridges story. Real quick, jaredville this.

1051
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 4: When he was talking about how you had this stripper

1052
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 4: DJ voice.

1053
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 2: No, no, Jeremy Bridges all time personality and a long

1054
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: time offensive lineman in this league. Jared Belder went down

1055
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: in a game against the Vikings and Jared Allen was

1056
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: dominating and Bridges was really more of an interior offensive

1057
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: lineman at that point in his career, and on the

1058
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: sideline he started campaigning and telling the coaches, let me

1059
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: play him I'm gonna go fight him. That's why I'm

1060
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 2: just gonna go fight him. I was, I'm gonna go

1061
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: fight him Jeremy and they and he did. He went

1062
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: out there and he literally was like a street brawl

1063
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: against Jared Allen the rest.

1064
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 4: They won that game, though, two thousands, they did great.

1065
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I have to say this one was that

1066
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 4: this struck me. This is winning behavior from parents that

1067
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 4: really there was a baby born at the end of

1068
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 4: July July twenty sixth, so like two weeks ago, a

1069
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 4: week and a half ago, from an embryo that was

1070
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: frozen in nineteen ninety four.

1071
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: That's not a long time ago, Darren. Why are you saying, oh,

1072
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: though such a long time ago.

1073
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 4: It is, like, so that's just crazy to me. That's crazy.

1074
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 3: That, like science is pretty crazy.

1075
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 2: I mean in nineteen ninety four, which was back during

1076
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: walkmans and all that, I mean, we had the technology

1077
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: to freeze in embryo in nineteen ninety four.

1078
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 4: Really, I well, yeah, that doesn't surprise me. It was funny,

1079
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 4: like some of the memes that came out over that

1080
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 4: over social media, like can you imagine being it when

1081
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: you're you're a teenager and you're being told like you

1082
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 4: were you could have been born for like when Halo

1083
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 4: first came out or and Madden.

1084
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Speaker 2: And right, yeah, that's okay, all right, well it's pre Internet,

1085
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: but we could freeze embryos. That's interesting. All right. What

1086
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: else do you have here? Oh, the truckload of hot

1087
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: dogs in PA.

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00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: Truckload of hot dogs gets spilled on a Pennsylvania interstate.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: My favorite part was the quote from the chief. I

1091
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 4: can tell you personally, hot dogs are very slippery.

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00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 3: Is that buns included or just the actually the hot dogs,

1093
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 3: so that dog hot dogs have some Greg Dorsch to

1094
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: him chestnut, that's right, clean it up.

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00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 4: I mean once once they're like, I mean, that's.

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00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 2: Just Pennsylvania farm country. I now think of chad Ryland,

1097
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: Cardinals Kicker and a video you can find on cardinals

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00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 2: social media Spirit Animals. He went with dairy cow because

1099
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: he grew up on a farm in Pennsylvania. So there's

1100
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: my connection to the Cardinals on that one.

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00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 4: Chad Ryland, we don't want to spill any spilled.

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00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: I asked him about it. By the way, I did

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00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: grill Hi about it. He still owns it. He said

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00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: that wasn't for the cameras. His spirit animal is a

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00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: dairy cow.

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00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 4: So the spirit animal social thing was awesome, especially when

1107
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: Michael Carter said his spirit animal was twenty sixteen lebron,

1108
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 4: which Paul.

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00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: And I took his goat. That must mean his spirit

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00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: animal is a goat.

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00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 4: He didn't really say goat, but that's fair.

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00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good one, okay, And then what else?

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00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 2: What is it? Some zoo and death?

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00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: Last one? And I noticed one. There's starting to become

1115
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 4: some backlash to the zoo, I.

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00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: Hope so, my goodness. So they need food for their

1117
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: predatory animals in this zoo and Denmark, so.

1118
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 4: They're asking for donations.

1119
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: Donations, not rodents you find in your garbage can or

1120
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: you know, but your pet. Now, to be fair, the

1121
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: audacity of a Facebook post.

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00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 4: A post in the post said, if you have a

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00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 4: healthy animal that needs to be given away for various reasons,

1124
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 4: feel free to donate to us.

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00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 3: Hand them, hand them over with their their death.

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00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 4: The zoo points to guinea pigs, rabbits, and chickens as

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00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 4: possible donations. They will be gently euthanized.

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00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: I hate that, and then torn apart by the predatory

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00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: animals in the zoo.

1130
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: Not a fan, I mean, not a fan Denmark behavior.

1131
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's winning behavior. They did talk

1132
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 4: about them the natural chain of the natural food shad

1133
00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: or whatever.

1134
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, So if.

1135
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 3: Your pet Gerbil dies or something, don't bury it in

1136
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 3: the backyard, just take it to the zoo.

1137
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 4: Well, they did say healthy, so it depends on why

1138
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: it dies.

1139
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 3: Beggars can't be choosers, this is true. We want to

1140
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: talk about natural selection.

1141
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll leave you with this. As we've

1142
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 2: been doing this podcast NFL Network Good Morning Football, they've

1143
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: been focusing on the NFC West and they had the

1144
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: panelists rank the quarterbacks in the NFC West, and Jamie

1145
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: Rdahl went on a big rant about how she has

1146
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 2: every other quarterback ahead of Kyler Murray, so if Kyler

1147
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: is looking for even more motivation this year. The other

1148
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: three panelists had it Stafford, Brock, Purty, Kyler, Sam Darnold.

1149
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: But she said, based on last year, how can you

1150
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: not put Donald ahead of Kyler? Based on so well,

1151
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: you see his last two games Week eighteen, in the

1152
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: playoff game. Yeah, that's all. We can put Darnald in

1153
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: the basement, especially behind that Yankee Seattle offensive line. That

1154
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: would be my reasoning there. But at this point, I

1155
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: think Kyler had a brock per make that happen. That

1156
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: is feasible, that is doable, that is plausible this year.

1157
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 4: I we're still relatively early. We're still a month out

1158
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 4: from games that matter. However, Matthew Stafford still having back issues.

1159
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 4: I do agree he's the best quarterback in this division

1160
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 4: if he's healthy.

1161
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: It'ld be one thing if he had a sprain ankle

1162
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 2: a back.

1163
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 3: Bring out Jimmy Garoppolo for a quarterback? Is that the

1164
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 3: backup in LA?

1165
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 4: That is correct?

1166
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: I mean you talk about getting rid of the ball quickly,

1167
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: you watch Matthew Stafford will be getting rid of the

1168
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: ball quicker than any quarterback in the league this year.

1169
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 2: If he's doing with the problematic back.

1170
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 3: Issue, somehow be more immobile than he has in years past.

1171
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: By the way, you don't see the Cardinals, don't see

1172
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: the Rams until the final six games of the year. Right,

1173
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: two times in the.

1174
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: Final DJ Humphries is now in LA.

1175
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.

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00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 4: And when I I think when he signed there, they said,

1177
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 4: like there's a really good chance he's going to be

1178
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 4: on that team. Because they need a backup tackle.

1179
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 2: So okay, well, look, we'll see whether we do see

1180
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 2: Kyler in the preseason. We've always been talking about doing

1181
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: the boring stuff a little bit more, which Kurt Warner

1182
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: has been saying for a couple of years. Now, take

1183
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 2: the layups, right, take the layup. Take the layups. Okay,

1184
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 2: we'll see how that tracks. There you go. Uh, that'll

1185
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: do it for this is.

1186
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 4: This is like we're like, we're back in the office

1187
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 4: next week.

1188
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: Okay, if you say so, I don't know days of

1189
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: the week right now.

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00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 4: No, I'm lost. No, we're back in the office. There's

1191
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: a trip to Denver next week, but we're gonna do

1192
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 4: our normal underground on Tuesday because you guys have a

1193
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 4: lot of other stuff to get done while we're in Denver.

1194
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 4: So we'll have to do I'll have to I'm gonna

1195
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 4: do some audio catch up with Craig Grieler on Cover

1196
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 4: two about that pro.

1197
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 3: Everyon want to have the game broadcast on and then

1198
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 3: also have the radio on. Paul's doing play by play.

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Speaker 2: Paul, No, no, that's AQ. That is the first second.

1200
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 4: But here's the problem, as we wrap this up, Paul

1201
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 4: doesn't know who's gonna be on defense and there's twelve defenders.

1202
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 3: He's he's all preparing for twelve of you are actually

1203
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: going to be more prepared for this.

1204
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 4: He's going to be sweating. He's going to be like,

1205
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 4: I'm preparing for twelve guys. How am I supposed to

1206
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 4: just deal with this?

1207
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: Wait till AQ sees the spotting board with one hundred

1208
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: and eighty players on it. Okay, that that's when you

1209
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: know it's the preseason. By the way, a Q, I

1210
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: hope you know the rule book cold. Okay, I'm counting

1211
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Speaker 2: on you for the minutia of the game. That'll do

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