WEBVTT - Safe Space NFL Draft Thoughts + Draft Night Trade Scenario | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:04.080 On today's episode The Command Center Podcast. It's a safe space, guys. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.280 We got all these draft thoughts, things were worried about, 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:09.240 and so we talk about them. We just get everything 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:11.560 off our chest and ar ar griefance is about this 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.960 year's draft. We're talking trade up, talking trade back, talking players. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:16.799 We like talking players. We don't like it. 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:18.759 All starts right now. 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.040 Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm looking Fallson here 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.800 with Santana Moss and Fred Smooth hit his I it 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.680 doesn't get old, Cuddler. 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:33.080 Doesn't get old. 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:34.360 Guys. 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.120 How you doing, I'm doing great, man, It's how's the back? 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.120 You know what the back is doing? 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:39.360 Well? 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.360 That was just one occasion. Let's not make this a 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:42.000 chronic thing. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:43.320 I just told me. 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.960 I'm not Larry Bird, all right, listen. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:49.800 I was literally just. 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:51.480 Walking over here with you. I said, would you ever 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.440 do flag football again? Just for fun? And you're like, 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.320 my back's to my stuff. That's like literally what you 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:56.600 just know? 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.720 I said, I'm just getting back from there. And when 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.000 it was my back, my back went out on me. Mortality, 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.920 I know. I faced it like what it is, but 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.160 my back is good. I'm riding my bike, I'm walking 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:15.200 I'm healthy. Listen, Listen, I got a six pack. I 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:16.920 got a six pack in the back. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.800 Of my back. Yeah, but he's getting it. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.320 I just would love to just see a picture of 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.399 me of you on the bike, maybe a thumbs up, 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:26.399 you know, like. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.319 So y'all want me to send it to take sure. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:30.920 Y'all don't be in the house on the bike. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.600 Listen. I know it's gonna be a target on a bike. Listen. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.440 I told y'all I was getting more active. I am 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.400 a lot more active right now. I'm doing a lot 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.880 more like working out, getting back into the routine. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.040 Looking good. My poor is looking good. I'm looking younger. 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:50.160 You said you were working out more after I beat 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.080 you in basketball at one time. Yeah, and you threw 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:55.640 your back out and you said, I gotta start working 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.880 out again. So that was like a year between. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.919 Guess what, nothing humbles you like laying in the parking 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:02.919 lot on the ground. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:07.400 It's such a funny story. I love that story. Yeah, right, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.120 that's up about Fred's back. All right, So we got 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.160 a couple house givings, just take care of okay, take 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.680 it to the draft. Obviously, We've got this bet between 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.680 Fred and I that will actually the result of that 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.600 bet will happen in air tomorrow, April seventeenth, and basically, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.280 which is my birthday, which is your birthday, So happy birthday, 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:27.840 birthday and a weird birthday too, right, Yeah, birthday a 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:28.880 big deal for this podcast. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.520 Totally opposite person. I can't say one thing. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.320 That's why I think the world of him when it 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.320 comes to his brain, because she's intelligent. He's intelligent, but 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.320 damn she don't she don't drink, she don't hang this dude, 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:41.680 just everything. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.799 John Dailey is your hero. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.959 So basically, we had to pick six prospects from last 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.280 year's draft of twenty twenty four draft or we're going 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.200 to be guaranteed ballers. Actually we're doing that show particular 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.200 draft coming up here soon too for twenty twenty five. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.680 But we had to pick six. I picked six Fred 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.280 Pick's and then Jason, our producer for the show I 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.880 Can't wait to hear. Yeah, basically came out and had 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.639 a rubric or a grating criteria. Yeah, and who ever 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.360 had more points one yeah, And the other person has 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.399 to get down on one knee, ben to knee and 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.160 say you're the best draft analysts and I am nothing. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:16.959 I'm a tag are. 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:22.799 So that's coming up. And then on Ticket to the Draft, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.800 which is show we just talked about. We're doing a 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:29.280 seven round mock draft on Monday the twenty first, featuring 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:33.800 Fred Smooth Yeah and Jeremy Green, who are actually related 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.720 but they don't know it. They don't look like they're related, 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.760 but they talk the same it happened. They kind of 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:39.720 tell jokes the same way. I kind of feel like 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.600 it's going to be like a you know, like when 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.120 you won't get the top, Like no one's gonna get 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.240 the tip. They're gonna just goin to talk over each 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:47.720 other the whole time. It's gonna be like when two 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.280 stars colyde and create like a supernova. It's just that's 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:51.480 what's gonna happen in this room, Like a. 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.840 Nuclear explosion, rosen breeze that creates a black. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:59.360 Hole, rosen Bridge at rosen Bridge, Rosenbird, rosen Bridge, No 0:03:59.480 --> 0:03:59.960 Rosen Brees. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:04.800 Okay, right on with it. I'm here, Manhattan Project, Let's 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:08.400 do it. Okay. So, because the Draft is coming up, 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.840 this show is going to be heavily draft focused. Yes, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.120 and our producer Jason, who co hosts the Tickets to 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:14.960 the Draft Show is going to join us for some 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.200 of the segments, and so basically he had a great 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.480 idea and it's that the to come up with NFL 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.560 Draft safe space, right, so we can just kind of 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.000 air our thoughts that we've been kind of closeting this 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.760 whole time, put them out in the open. Let's talk 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.600 about them, kind of like a therapy session for draft takes. Yes, 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:33.359 And I think it's really really smart because I have 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.080 some very strong feelings about this draft class, specifically in 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.080 the first round. So I think this is a good opportunity. Fred, 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.159 You've got some too. In our meeting, you had some 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:42.880 really good ones as well, So I think this is 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:44.719 a great opportunity to get them going. So I'm gonna 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.000 we're all going to give our safe space thoughts, and 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.440 Jason's gonna give one. We're gonna discuss, Yeah, just kind 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.120 of talk through it, talk through the big feelings we 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:52.520 have and hopefully get. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:53.599 To go on to your shrink. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:55.240 Yeah, and you sit on the couch. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.480 You know, it's a safe space for me to open 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.400 up and tell you how I really feel. Most people 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.560 don't want to talk about how they really feel, and 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.559 how I really feel. If you want me to start 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.120 this thing off. You know what I'm saying. 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:07.839 You know it's certain, Yeah, what you got to do. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:09.279 This is how I really feel. 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.840 You know, nobody wants to say this on the outside 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.600 because everybody thinks that every draft is special. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:15.320 No matter what. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.920 I'd rather have two picks in the second round than 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:20.760 two picks. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.719 In the first the two picks in the first. 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:27.080 Yeah, I'm just saying. The talent to me isn't different. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:31.880 It's it's stagnant and it's the same, and I expect 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.240 it after coming after you remember last year I said 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:34.960 something very bold. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:36.560 I felt like last year's draft were one of the 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.720 best drafts of all time, and it was a very 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:39.880 good draft. I felt like that. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.520 And then you know, after drafts like that, the next 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.360 draft is always weak. It happened with me and Tawny 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.120 in two thousand and one. The two thousand and two 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.320 draft was weaker than not way wicked than hours. And 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.800 I think this draft is getting a side effect of 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:56.479 the draft being social. Some talent up top last year, 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.880 and we gotta say, last year, what really made that draft? 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.560 I call them covides. Everybody got there, everybody got their 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:06.200 fifth year. This extra year to play football that jam 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.719 pecked at draft and made it special. 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:10.839 Well, this is a weird year too, because that junior 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.920 college thing came out, that ruling where that doesn't count 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.200 against your eligibility. All those kids who found extra eligibility 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.240 went back to school. This was the year, the last 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:19.880 year of COVID. It was supposed to be this year 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.680 get back to normal. Then obviously that gets disrupted by 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.200 the eligibility ruling. But I agree Fred, like we for 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.200 take to the Draft our Guaranteed Baller Show for twenty 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.720 twenty five, I find it way easier to pick players 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.400 that I absolutely loved, loved in like the second, third, 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.400 fourth round range as opposed to that first round range. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:38.880 And we're going to talk about that more as we 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:40.960 go on in the show. But it does feel like 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.000 a weird year for the first round, Like there's you 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.760 have to pick someone in the first round, but there's 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.320 nobody there Tanna that you're like. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:55.279 And logan great athletes, great bodies. Stats don't match Jamar Stewart. 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.920 Stats don't match, like what I see. 0:06:58.680 --> 0:06:59.600 These dudes in there. 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:05.679 When you project them, it's more safe than actually saying 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.200 this guy is gonna be good like I just it's 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:08.760 something about it. 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.520 I also think it's safe to say that, you know, 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.280 throughout the years, history is showing us that. Yeah, it's 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.280 but so many going in the first round, but that 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.120 has been proven that a lot of guys, a lot 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.880 of greats have played in this league and has become 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.280 hall of famous Pro Bowls you name it, when Super 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.200 Bowls that came in the later rounds anyway, especially second 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.040 round and use the second round pick, you know, you 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.200 know names that we can call it out right now 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.040 that was in the second round. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.640 You know, and that you know what I mean. So 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:37.880 it's safe to say that you see that every year. 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:42.040 Yeah, yeah, So I understand where you're coming from with that. Fred, 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:43.800 I empathize with that. I think that's a pretty good 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.720 take actually, like because again I think there's some really 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.640 talented football players in the second round. Tanna, what's your 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.120 safe space thought on the drug? 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:53.480 Do I have to get in that red voice? 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:58.960 Yes, because we're talking to our shrink to say, you know, 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:00.840 because everyone want to listen to me. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.000 I'm always talking now. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.800 Well, you know, I said I believe this year and 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.880 I think, you know, like I said, this can go 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.480 for any year, but this year, particularly late roundbacks will 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:12.720 be some game changes this year. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.960 It does feel that way, deep deep deep deep plans. 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.160 I only say that and let me put my little 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.280 take on it. The only reason why I say that 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:25.520 is because I feel like, despite what Squan did last 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:29.160 year showing that the running back position should should be 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:30.920 valued a little more of him and your guy with 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.640 Gary Henry Uh, they prove that the running back should 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.440 be valued more the kid and kid in Detroit Gibbs, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:41.040 how Talenton he was. They've shown you that you should keep, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:45.720 you know, giving us to appreciate what we do for 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:50.400 this this game. Despite all that, they still don't believe 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.360 in you. Hear you know, analysts after analysts saying that, 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.640 oh I won't pick that running back so high. And 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.400 I'm like, bro, if you need a runner back, yeah, 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.520 and this guys available, you go get them. 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:01.840 Yeah. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.760 So with all that being said, you're going to see 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.720 that these teams are going to allow a lot and 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.280 you know, this draft has a lot of running backs. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:10.920 A lot of those guys gonna get bottled up at 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.520 the bottom. Yeah, And like I said, it's safe to 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.840 say that there's gonna it's gonna be a lot of 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:17.800 game changes. It's gonna be a lot of great talent 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.720 that get picked up from some team that's gonna be 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.160 able to change and get dangerous. 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:22.840 Thing about that me and Logan was talking about this 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.120 walking in is when you get a position with this 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.520 many draft picks, it pushes the older backs out of 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:33.760 the NFL. Like so when you get these thirty running 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.960 backs coming in, that means thirty got to go. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.839 Yeah, yeah, I think that's uh, that's exactly right. And 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.760 I just think about you know, your Smith's from MESSU, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:46.000 your CJ. Harvey from UCF, your Basile Tooting from Virginia 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:50.400 Tech here, Uh well kJ kJ Dobbins is that his name. No, 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:50.960 that's that's. 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.320 No, no, No, you're talking about you got Johnson from Iowa. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:54.600 Yeah he's a good player too. 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:54.840 Yeah. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.000 But there's like you could just go on and on, 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.160 and so I do think there's some guys that go 0:09:59.240 --> 0:09:59.840 in second round. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.400 Everybody seemed to like the Hunter. I like the Hunter 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:08.400 kid from Aubury. I think he can make play Quinn's Hunter. 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.760 I saw the kid from Arizona State. Is that Arizona States? 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.640 I saw he ran like a four or five, And 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.920 and and guys was talking about it. I'm like, that's 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.959 a big little butter ball. Like if he runs for 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.120 a fight, that's great for him. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:21.440 I think I think he needs to go to a 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:22.280 cold weather team. 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.240 Like when I closed my eyes, I see him running downhill, 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:29.480 the Green Bay, just anywhere, this cold weather outside, baby 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.320 baby bus. Yeah, he's gonna run down here. Listen, I'm 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.839 gonna tell you about the bus. I was trying to 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.439 tackle Jerome Bettis all right. I'm screaming that I can 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.040 show you this play time from and I'm trying to 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.200 wrap my arms around him, but his body is so 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.800 bad I couldn't wrap my you know, I'm telling you, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.400 I'm trying to wrap my arms around him. He runs 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.720 me over and as I go to the ground because 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.280 I'm trying to just sacrifice at all, he ran me 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.920 over so bit he lifts me back up and runs 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.960 me over again. What I'm saying is that bad body 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.880 sometime is a whip poor kam. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.320 Scout who're getting tossed in with the bad But I 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:09.679 do think like, yeah, like, I know there's a lot 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.160 of people that are like, oh, in the second round, 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:12.920 you should take it back, you know, the commander should 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.800 take it back. But I do think it's got a 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:16.840 long runway in the group. Yeah, and there's kind of 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.199 stylistically something for everybody. So I think the playmaker thing 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.480 late rounds is uh is pretty it's pretty awesome. All right. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.959 We got just a guy, Jason here, our producer Jason. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:27.240 At least he ain't hated Jason. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.480 Yeah, no, I'm not a hater, and I love a 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.760 lot of I love the draft process, so like there's 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.600 been fun to do the take it to their Draft podcast. 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.679 I don't know how safe this space is with Fred 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:40.200 in here, so I probably should have thought of a 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:44.000 different title for this segment. But here's my statement. Guys, 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.600 all right, obdua Carter, he should be the number one 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.240 overall pick. And I'm going to go just a little 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:53.360 bit deeper here. I think that team should solely focus 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:58.280 on drafting Jess Lineman and quarterbacks. Figure out everything else 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.960 in the off season, whether that's with trades or free agency, 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.560 and quarterbacks quarterback. 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.920 So just ten positions just pushed out of here. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:11.320 Well here, I mean this is obviously a safe space 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.960 thought right, Okay, so let's not get on me too much, 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.600 but my thought process to this Fred, because I see 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:21.880 you just wanted to say, Ready, right, is that Let's 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.600 say you have a very because you drafted well, right, 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.200 let's say you hit on fifty percent, that'd be very good. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.440 So let's say you hit on that. So let's say 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:35.480 you have very deep offensive lineman and your roster and 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.960 you need a running back, got a trade piece. Yeah, 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:43.440 you're not spending a whole lot of money yet with 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.040 quarterback because you're constantly having another guy come in on 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.880 a rookie deal, a smaller rookie deal. So unless you 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.280 find a franchise quarterback, which is really hard to do. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.960 Then you just rolled to the next one. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:56.400 Hit. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.040 If I could say anything about your argument, this is 0:12:59.080 --> 0:12:59.720 what I say. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.280 It's a safe space thought. It's not making an argument. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:03.679 Yea, it's safe space. 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.160 Say so safe check this out. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.120 If I take your mode of thought and how you draft, 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.880 I'm gonna be drafted in the same top tier spot 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.960 every year one, two, three, four, five. Eventually I have 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.679 to fill in these slots to support that offensive lineman 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:19.400 in that quarterback. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.559 That's a lot of top five picks in linemen and quarters. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.760 One of them is gonna hit. No, No, That's what 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:25.240 I'm saying. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.679 This The whole object of picking up there is I 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.040 don't want to pick you next year. I want to 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:31.720 do what we need. I want to pick it too, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:33.679 and come back to next year and pick it twenty nine. 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.400 I will say to Jason's point, if you just look 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.760 at this last free agency cycle, right, for example, like 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.439 the Commanders were in it, right, So if you look 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.800 at the most valuable assets that was traded for was 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:43.560 Laramie Tunsel. 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:43.959 Yeah. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.520 So if hypothetically you're I don't know, the the justic 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:51.080 guy Jason franchise, right, and you're drafting offensive lineman and 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.640 you have a way to develop them every year, Yeah, 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.440 and teams know that you are developing offensive linemen, all 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.079 of a sudden, you are getting something that is very, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.680 very valuable lead wide because no one else really knows 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.640 how to develop offensive line and no one's investing in 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.840 offensive line the same way. And so that's interesting. And 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.800 then couple that with the quarterback philosophy. I do think 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.480 I kind of am in the same boat. Maybe not 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.320 in the first round, but you should probably take and 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.520 develop a quarterback every year because of the trade value 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:17.200 of that player. 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:22.240 Now, thanks for defending me, Logan, But what also I'm 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.840 saying this is kind of like a obviously you don't 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.400 do this to the tee. Yeah, because there will come 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.600 a point, like you said, Fred, like, Okay, you hit 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.400 on a franchise quarterback. You got depth on your line. 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.400 Now you can be a little more riskier in the 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.240 background and go after like a wide receiver trying to 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:41.320 get value there. I'm just saying, if I'm starting over, 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.560 if this is the very first year for this franchise, 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.160 this is all I'm doing. And Abdul Carter is sitting 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.000 right there. Yeah, that's who I'm going with. 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:54.320 So are you not afraid of the Penn State bus rate? No, 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:55.000 not with him? 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:56.160 Penn State bus rate. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.760 Oh yeah, most of the time Pen State players a 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.200 bus courty Courtney Brown like like put it like this, 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.280 the ones that you put up very high. 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:06.880 Well, who else is it? I'm just trying to think 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:07.560 I can shot. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.480 It's so many dudes like I can go when I 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.160 like h on my thing with Penn State. Penn State 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.160 players sometime are better college players than they are pros. 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:18.800 And we just seeing this. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.760 I put it like this, if I told you pitt 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.840 University of Pittsburgh has a better hit range than than 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:27.560 than Penn State. 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:28.280 Would you believe me? 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:29.640 Probably not? 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:31.640 Yeah, probably not. It does, but it does. 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.920 It does like pitt is a university puts out more 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.320 quality players, more Hall. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.320 Of Famous than Penn State period, hands down. 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:40.720 Yeah. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.360 So I'm a Penn State fan and there's not a 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.320 great track record track record there, but there when you 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.960 do hit from Penn State your head. He and Michael 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:55.040 Parsons like, right, I played with levard, So there are 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.200 some good like, there are some good players out of 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.560 Penna State, and I'm saying, yeah, Idol is going to 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:00.920 be that guy. 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:05.680 I mean, he is a freak elite athlete. 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:10.840 Right, and he is high motor, smart, quick, twitched up 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.760 like everything you want from a pass rusher. This guy 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.640 has as a prospect, So yeah, I'm I'm going with him. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.160 Yeah. I think the only thing I'd pushed back, I mean, 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:20.920 he's a good football player obviously, but I only had 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:22.560 to push back on is I do think cam Ward 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:27.000 can be a I don't franchise, but definitely starter plus. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.600 And if you're the Tennessee Titans, you haven't had like 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.280 a good starting quarterback since Steve McNair. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:33.440 So you're just gonna give up on the man as 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:34.360 man I think so. 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.800 Yeah, I think that's the kind of adjacent sporting. I 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.360 don't even know, ob he's too buff. I just think 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.240 he doesn't. His processing last year left something to be. 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.800 Decided killed him by itself. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.400 I mean, yeah, consistent like lack of consistent decision making, 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.480 and so getting a playmaker in there, a guy that 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.000 can elevate the floor of the entire organization in a 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.440 way that and it's not Abdua Carter's fault, but his 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.000 impact is never going to be what a quarterback? 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:00.800 I agree with that completely. But let's because I have 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.160 a rundown in front of me, Let's move on to yours. Yeah, 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.480 and what's your safe space? Because I think it actually 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:06.600 supports what I'm saying here. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:06.920 Yeah. 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:08.879 So for me, there's only two blue chip players in 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.200 this draft, so one being Abdul Carter and the other 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:16.000 one being Ashton Genty. And so just because so and 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.440 everyone says, all, what about Travis Hunter, what about Will Johnson? 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.720 What about cam Ward? What about Mason Graham? Taking from 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:26.119 Michigan and to me, like they're not cam Ward. I 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:27.959