WEBVTT - Can’t Sit Still Without Distraction? (Train Your Brain With THIS Daily Practice & Embrace Boredom!)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, it's Jay, and today I want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about how to be bored. Maybe there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you out there who don't know how to be

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<v Speaker 1>bored anymore. You always distracted, You're always running to the

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<v Speaker 1>next thing, You're always trying to fill your gaps, be busy.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you struggle with dealing with the thoughts in your

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<v Speaker 1>head when you actually slow down and pause. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know how boredom can be powerful for your brain,

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<v Speaker 1>this episode is for you. And if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>know how you can change your life and actually use

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<v Speaker 1>it to your advantage, don't skip this episode. In sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four, the French mathematician and philosopher Blaize Pascal wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a sentence that I think might be the most underrated,

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<v Speaker 1>most urgent, most terrifying truth ever put on paper. He wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>all of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit

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<v Speaker 1>quietly in a room alone. Think about that. This was

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen fifty four, no smartphones, no television, no radio, no

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<v Speaker 1>newspapers delivered to your door, no telegraph. The most sophisticated

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment technology available was a harpsichord and a good candle,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pascal looked at the people around him, the richest,

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<v Speaker 1>most educated, most powerful people in France, and concluded that

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<v Speaker 1>the root cause of war, corruption, cruelty, recklessness, and misery

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<v Speaker 1>was that nobody could just sit still. They hunted, they gambled,

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<v Speaker 1>they threw lavish parties, They picked fights with neighboring kingdoms.

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<v Speaker 1>They pursued scandal and intrigue at caught, not, Pascal argued,

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<v Speaker 1>because they actually wanted those things, but because the alternative,

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<v Speaker 1>being alone with their own thoughts, was too unbearable to face. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to pick up your phone. You probably

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<v Speaker 1>are it already, but don't actually do it. Just imagine

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, you know, the moment I meant ending in

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<v Speaker 1>line at the coffee shop, you're waiting for the elevator,

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<v Speaker 1>you're sitting on the toilet, you're in the first ten

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<v Speaker 1>seconds of an ad and you can't skip yet, and

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<v Speaker 1>your hand moves almost before you've made a decision to

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, to scroll to the feed, to anything that

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<v Speaker 1>fills the gap. What are you running from? Pascal new

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<v Speaker 1>he was watching people run from it in sixteen fifty four.

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<v Speaker 1>This doesn't make you weak, You're not wrong, You're not

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<v Speaker 1>a bad person. The thing you're running from doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a name. In polite conversation, we call it boredom, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a minor inconvenience, like being slightly cold or having

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<v Speaker 1>a headache, something to be treated, something to be eliminated,

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<v Speaker 1>something that signals there's a problem to be fixed. But

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<v Speaker 1>what if boredom isn't the problem. What if boredom is

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<v Speaker 1>the solution and someone has been very carefully, very profitably

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<v Speaker 1>taking it away from you. Welcome to something I call

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<v Speaker 1>the sacred void. Now, before we dive in, now, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about what boredom actually is. Scientists got

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<v Speaker 1>this wrong for one hundred years. So here's the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to start by rehabilitating boredom's reputation because it

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<v Speaker 1>has been absolutely destroyed. For most of the twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 1>Psychologists treated boredom as a deficiency state, a signal that

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<v Speaker 1>something was missing stimulation, purpose, motivation. The implicit assumption was

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<v Speaker 1>that a healthy, engaged, well adjusted person shouldn't experience boredom.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were bored, something was wrong with you. You

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<v Speaker 1>lack discipline or ambition or the right attitude. Teachers told

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<v Speaker 1>students to stop being bored. Parents loaded children's schedules to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent boredom from ever arising. The entire architecture of modern

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<v Speaker 1>productivity culture was built on the premise that idle time

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<v Speaker 1>is wasted time. This was one of the great intellect

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<v Speaker 1>errors of the modern era. In the last twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>a small group of researchers, most of them working in obscurity,

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<v Speaker 1>many of them initially laughed at by their colleagues, began

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<v Speaker 1>to look at boredom with fresh eyes, and what they

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<v Speaker 1>found completely inverted everything we thought we knew. The first

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<v Speaker 1>revelation was definitional. What is boredom actually? Psychologist Sandy Man

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<v Speaker 1>at the University of Central Lancashire spent years researching this

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<v Speaker 1>and arrived at a definition that stopped me cold when

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<v Speaker 1>I read it. She found that boredom is not the

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<v Speaker 1>absence of stimulation. It is actually a state of wanting

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<v Speaker 1>stimulation but being unable to find anything satisfying. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of restless searching state, and it's without a scratch.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's where it gets interesting. When Man and her

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues actually studied what that restless searching produced is they

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<v Speaker 1>discovered something nobody expected. They ran an experiment where one

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<v Speaker 1>group of participants was given a classic creativity test, the

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<v Speaker 1>kind where you have to think of as many uses

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<v Speaker 1>for a common object as possible, like a plastic cup.

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<v Speaker 1>They listed their ideas average results. Then they ran another

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<v Speaker 1>group through a boring task, first, copying numbers out of

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<v Speaker 1>a phone book by hand for twenty minutes. Just copying

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<v Speaker 1>numbers the most tedious activity they could construct. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>did the same creativity test. The board group wasn't slightly better.

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<v Speaker 1>They were dramatically better. More ideas, more original ideas, more

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<v Speaker 1>unusual ideas. The boredom had done something to their thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Man did a second version. This time she made the

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<v Speaker 1>boring task even more passive, just reading numbers from her

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<v Speaker 1>phone book rather than helping them even more boring. The

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<v Speaker 1>creativity scores went up even further. Boredom wasn't the enemy

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<v Speaker 1>of creative thought, it was the precondition for it. But

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<v Speaker 1>why why would sitting with empty, frustrated restlessness make you

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<v Speaker 1>more creative? The answer lives in the most important brain

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<v Speaker 1>system you might have never heard of. And I need

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<v Speaker 1>to spend some real time here, because once you understand this,

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<v Speaker 1>you will never look an idle moment the same way again.

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<v Speaker 1>The default mode network this is the most important brain

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<v Speaker 1>system that no one tells us about. For most of

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<v Speaker 1>neuroscience history, researchers studied the brain by giving people tasks

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<v Speaker 1>to do and watching which regions activated. Solve a puzzle.

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<v Speaker 1>This area lights up, process language that area, recognize a

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<v Speaker 1>face this region. The operating assumption was that the interesting

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<v Speaker 1>action happened when the brain was working well. Nobody thought

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<v Speaker 1>to ask, was what is the brain doing when it's

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<v Speaker 1>not working. In the nineteen nineties, neuroscientists Marcus Reichel at

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<v Speaker 1>Washington University in Saint Louis was doing exactly this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of task based brain imaging, and he kept noticing something strange.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a network of regions that consistently deactivated when

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<v Speaker 1>people were giving tasks to focus on. They went quiet

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<v Speaker 1>during directed attention, and when the task ended, when the

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<v Speaker 1>person was just resting, just letting their mind wonder, this

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<v Speaker 1>network came roaring back online. Reichel called it the default

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<v Speaker 1>mode network the DMN, the brain's default setting. For years,

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<v Speaker 1>the dm MEN was dismissed as background noise idlaying like

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<v Speaker 1>a car engine at a red light, wasted energy, the

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<v Speaker 1>brain burning glucose for nothing. Then, in one of the

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<v Speaker 1>great slow burn reveals in science history. Researchers started actually

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<v Speaker 1>studying the DMN, and they found that it was not

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<v Speaker 1>idling at all. It was doing the most sophisticated, most important,

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<v Speaker 1>most deeply human cognitive work of your entire mental life.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is what the default mode network is responsible for.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to listen to this list carefully. The

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<v Speaker 1>DMN is the system that generates your sense of self,

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<v Speaker 1>your ongoing narrative of who you are, what you value,

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<v Speaker 1>where you've been, where you're going. When you lie awake

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<v Speaker 1>and think about your life, that's the DMN. When you

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<v Speaker 1>feel the particular ache of regret or the particular warmth

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<v Speaker 1>of gratitude, the dm MEN is assembling those experiences. The

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<v Speaker 1>DMN is where you process other people's minds when you

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<v Speaker 1>try to understand why someone acted the way they did,

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine their inner experience, to feel empathy, that requires

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<v Speaker 1>the DMN. It's the system that makes you socially intelligent,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you capable of compassion rather than just reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>The dm MEN is where you simulate the future, when

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine a difficult conversation before it happens, or envision

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<v Speaker 1>what a decision might mean for your life five years

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<v Speaker 1>from now. That is DMN activity. It's your brain's flight simulator,

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<v Speaker 1>your rehearsal space. And critically, the dm MEN is where

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<v Speaker 1>creative insight happens, not the grinding effortfu part of creativity,

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<v Speaker 1>not the application of rules, the breakthrough moment, the sudden

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<v Speaker 1>connection between two things that seem uncorrelated, the solution that

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<v Speaker 1>rives apparently from nowhere in the shower. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>default mode network firing. And in fact, some researchers now

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<v Speaker 1>believe that the highest levels of human creativity are not

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<v Speaker 1>primarily a function of the focused, task oriented brain at all.

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<v Speaker 1>They are a function of how well your DMN operates

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<v Speaker 1>and how often you give it the space to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing that I want you to write

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<v Speaker 1>down right now about DMN. It cannot activate when you

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<v Speaker 1>are consuming. Listen to that again. Your dm MEN can't

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<v Speaker 1>activate when you're consuming the default mode network your self

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<v Speaker 1>reflection system, your empathy system, your creativity system, your future

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<v Speaker 1>simulation system, your meaning making system. It cannot run while

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking in external stimulation. When you're scrolling, the DMN

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<v Speaker 1>is suppressed. When you're watching, the DMN is suppressed. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to a podcast, yes, including this one. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're engaged with external input, the DMN is offline. It

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<v Speaker 1>only comes online in the gaps, in the pauses, in

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<v Speaker 1>the waiting, in the boredom. Now, I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>think about how many gaps you have left in your day.

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<v Speaker 1>When was the last time you stood in a queue

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<v Speaker 1>without your phone, The last time you waited for a

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<v Speaker 1>meal at a restaurant without your phone, The last time

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<v Speaker 1>you sat in a waiting room for a doctor a

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<v Speaker 1>dentist and just sat. The last time you took a

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<v Speaker 1>walk without headphones, The last time you lay in bed

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning without immediately reaching for a screen. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're like most people in the modern world, those moments

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<v Speaker 1>are nearly gone, eliminated with remarkable thoroughness, and with them,

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<v Speaker 1>quietly and visibly, something essential has been disappearing from your

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<v Speaker 1>inner life. Researchers at the University of Virginia ran a

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<v Speaker 1>study that I find poignant. They asked partisans events to

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<v Speaker 1>sit alone in a room with their thoughts for fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>no phone, no book, no music, just sitting. The only

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<v Speaker 1>thing in the room was a button that, if pressed,

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<v Speaker 1>would deliver a mild electric shock. Sixty seven percent of

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<v Speaker 1>men and twenty five percent of women chose to shock

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<v Speaker 1>themselves rather than sit quietly with their own thoughts. One

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<v Speaker 1>man shocked himself one hundred and ninety times one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety times. Pascal was right in sixteen fifty four.

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<v Speaker 1>We just now have the neuroscience to understand exactly why,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have something he couldn't have imagined, an industry

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<v Speaker 1>that has spent billions of dollars making the avoidance of

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<v Speaker 1>your own mind not just easy but irresistible. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you about how the attention economy

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<v Speaker 1>surgically removed boredom from your life. I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>really precise yere, because I know I don't think this

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<v Speaker 1>is an accident. I don't think that you feeling bored

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<v Speaker 1>and feeling like it's a weakness or the need for

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<v Speaker 1>constant stimulation is your fault. I don't believe this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that you did to yourself. I think it is

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<v Speaker 1>a designed outcome, and the people who designed it knew

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat what they were doing. In twenty seventeen, Tristan Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>a former design ethicist at Google, began speaking publicly about

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<v Speaker 1>something he'd witnessed from the inside. He described how the

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<v Speaker 1>technology industry doesn't simply make products, It makes persuasion machines,

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<v Speaker 1>systems explicitly engineered to capture and hold human nature for

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<v Speaker 1>as long as possible, using the same psychological techniques developed

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<v Speaker 1>for slot machines and gambling. Harris called it the race

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of the brainstem. Not a race to

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<v Speaker 1>make you smarter or more connected or more fulfilled, a

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<v Speaker 1>race to find the lowest, most ancient, most reflexive part

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<v Speaker 1>of your neurological architecture, the part that responds to novelty,

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<v Speaker 1>to social approval, to potential threat, to pattern and reward,

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<v Speaker 1>and plug directly into it. The core mechanism is intermittent

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<v Speaker 1>variable reward, the same mechanism that makes slot machines the

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<v Speaker 1>most addictive gambling devices ever invented. You pull the lever,

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<v Speaker 1>you scroll down, and sometimes you get something rewarding, a

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<v Speaker 1>funny video, a surprising piece of news, a notification that

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<v Speaker 1>someone liked what you posted, and sometimes you get nothing interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The randomness is not a flaw. The randomness is the feature.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what makes you keep pulling the lever, keep scrolling,

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<v Speaker 1>keep checking EU dopamine system was not designed for this.

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<v Speaker 1>It evolved to motivate you to pursue food, want safety,

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<v Speaker 1>and connection scarce resources in a world where effort was

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<v Speaker 1>required to find them. It was not designed to interface

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<v Speaker 1>with a system that provides infinite, instant, algorithmically optimized stimulation

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<v Speaker 1>calibrated specifically to the profile of your individual psychology. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you find yourself as most people do, checking your

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<v Speaker 1>phone somewhere between ninety six and one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>times per day, not because you decided to, not because

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<v Speaker 1>you want to, but because a system smarter than your

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<v Speaker 1>conscious mind has learned exactly which lever to pull, exactly

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<v Speaker 1>when to pull it, and exactly how to keep you

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<v Speaker 1>coming back stop scrolling. I need you to understand this

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<v Speaker 1>about notifications. Every notification is an interruption. Every interruption breaks

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<v Speaker 1>your focus, and researchers at the University of California, Irvine

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<v Speaker 1>have found that after an interruption, it takes an average

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty three minutes to return to the same level

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<v Speaker 1>of deep focus you were out before twenty three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>for a single notification glance. Most of us received dozens

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<v Speaker 1>of notifications per day, which means most of us never

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<v Speaker 1>not once, not for a single sustained period, reached the

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<v Speaker 1>depth of focus and the depth of mind wandering necessary

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<v Speaker 1>for their default mode network to do its best work.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing about your attention being stolen. You

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<v Speaker 1>can reclaim what was taken. And this is where we

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<v Speaker 1>go back, way back to the people who understood the

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<v Speaker 1>value of empty moments more clearly than almost any thinkers

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<v Speaker 1>in history. I want to talk to you about the

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<v Speaker 1>ancient art of doing nothing. What the wisest humans who

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<v Speaker 1>ever lived knew about the sacred gap. The Stoic philosopher Seneca,

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<v Speaker 1>writing two thousand years ago in ancient Rome, was surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by precisely the same problem Pascal would observe sixteen centuries later.

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<v Speaker 1>Rome was a city of spectacle, gladiator games, theatrical performances,

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<v Speaker 1>political intrigue, constant noise and crowd and stimulation. Seneca watched

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<v Speaker 1>his fellow citizen's lurch from entertainment to entertainment, from party

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<v Speaker 1>to party, and he wrote something that reads like it

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<v Speaker 1>was composed yesterday. Seneca wrote, it is not that I

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<v Speaker 1>am brave enough to be bored. It is that I

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<v Speaker 1>know what boredom is. For he called it otium often

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<v Speaker 1>translated as leisure, but that translation loses something crucial. For Seneca.

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<v Speaker 1>Otium was not relaxation. It was not passive rest. It

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<v Speaker 1>was purposeful emptiness, deliberately cultivated spaciousness. Time not organized around

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<v Speaker 1>doing or consuming, but around being around, allowing the mind

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<v Speaker 1>to roam, to integrate, to discover what it actually contains.

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<v Speaker 1>Seneca believed that the quality of a person's otium determine

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<v Speaker 1>the quality of their thinking, not their reading, not their study,

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<v Speaker 1>their otium the time when the books were closed and

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<v Speaker 1>they just sat. He wrote letters in that state. He

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<v Speaker 1>had his deepest philosophical insights in that state. He believed

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<v Speaker 1>that you could not genuinely know yourself without regular, intentional

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<v Speaker 1>time spent in silence with your own mind. So what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to share with you is the practice of

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<v Speaker 1>how to be bored. I want to give you something real,

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<v Speaker 1>not a manifesto, not a list of things to feel

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<v Speaker 1>guilty about, a practice. First, understand what you're actually doing

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<v Speaker 1>when you reach for the phone. You're not making a decision.

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<v Speaker 1>You're executing a reflex, a reflex that has been installed

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<v Speaker 1>and strengthened over years of training. The first step is

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<v Speaker 1>simply to notice it. To put a tiny gap between

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<v Speaker 1>the stimulus boredom and the response scroll. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to resist it. Just notice, Oh I'm bored and my

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<v Speaker 1>hand moved that. Noticing over time is everything. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>change your reflex you're not aware of. Second practice, what

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<v Speaker 1>I call the three minute hold. When you feel boredom

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<v Speaker 1>arriving that restless, uncomfortable itch, make a deal with yourself

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes. You're going to hold still for three minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>No phone, no book, no music. You're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>let the discomfort be there. Look at a wall, look

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<v Speaker 1>at the sky, look at your hands. For the first minute,

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<v Speaker 1>it will feel terrible. Your mind will pingpong, It will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you this is a waste of time. It will

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<v Speaker 1>generate a small flight of anxious, mundane thoughts. Things you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do, things you said, things you're worried about.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all normal. Sit with it. In the second minute,

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<v Speaker 1>something usually shifts. The chatter doesn't stop, but it changes character.

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<v Speaker 1>It becomes slightly less urgent. Your gaze, if you let it,

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<v Speaker 1>will start to drift and soften. You're breathing more slow

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<v Speaker 1>without you telling it to. In the third minute, something opens,

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<v Speaker 1>not always, not dramatically, but a quietness begins together, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes sometimes something arrives from below a thought you didn't expect,

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<v Speaker 1>a memory you hadn't planned to have a connection between

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<v Speaker 1>two things in your life that you suddenly see clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>A feeling that had been waiting patiently behind all the noise.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your default mode network coming online. That is otium. Third,

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<v Speaker 1>every day, do one thing that allows you to be bored.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk without headphones, eat breakfast without your phone, sit outside

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<v Speaker 1>for ten minutes after work doing nothing, Lie in bed

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<v Speaker 1>for five minutes after you wake before checking your phone'sh

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<v Speaker 1>your dishes without any distraction. These are not sacrifices. These

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<v Speaker 1>are investments. Each boring ritual is a deposit in the

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<v Speaker 1>account of your inner life. Each one is giving your

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<v Speaker 1>default mode network, your creativity, your empathy, your self understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of time to run. The remarkable thing

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<v Speaker 1>is how quickly it compounds. People who begin simple bored

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<v Speaker 1>and practices just like these often report within two or

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks that they feel more creative, more emotionally present,

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<v Speaker 1>more able to access their own feelings, more interesting to themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Not because they've learned anything new, because they've given the

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge they already have space to breed. Number four, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the most important one. Get bored on purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>before your hardest problems, before a difficult creative challenge, before

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<v Speaker 1>a decision that matters, before a hard conversation, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to have Take ten minutes and do something mindlessly mundane.

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<v Speaker 1>Wash the dishes, fold laundry, take a short walk. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not procrastinating your activating your most sophisticated cognitive machinery. You're

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<v Speaker 1>greasing the right wheels. What seems like wasted time is

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<v Speaker 1>often the thing that makes everything that follows work. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to come back to Pascal. He wrote his sentence

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<v Speaker 1>in sixteen fifty four, long before slot machines, long before television,

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<v Speaker 1>long before the algorithm that knows you better than your

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<v Speaker 1>friends do, that has mapped the exact contours of your restlessness.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a piece of content, already selected, already cued,

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<v Speaker 1>already waiting for the precise moment your attention starts to drift.

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<v Speaker 1>Pascal looked at kings and philosophers and soldiers, people with

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<v Speaker 1>every resource, every advantage, every stimulation their world could offer,

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<v Speaker 1>and he saw them running. We are all running running

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<v Speaker 1>from a person, running from a place, running from silence

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<v Speaker 1>running from ourselves. I'm not judging you, I'm grieving what

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<v Speaker 1>you're missing out on. You to know that the most

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<v Speaker 1>important things, the things that make life worth living, that

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<v Speaker 1>make humans capable of wisdom and love and genuine creativity,

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<v Speaker 1>those things could only be found in one place nobody

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go. The quiet stillness, the peaceful room, the

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<v Speaker 1>empty moment, the uncomfortable, awkward silence. That's where it all is.

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<v Speaker 1>That void is not empty. It only looks empty from

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<v Speaker 1>the outside. From the inside, if you can hold still

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<v Speaker 1>long enough to get there, it is the most populated,

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<v Speaker 1>most alive, most genuinely yours. Place you will ever stand

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<v Speaker 1>your self is in there. Your best ideas are in there,

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<v Speaker 1>your deepest relationships being shaped in there by the quality

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<v Speaker 1>of the attention you're developing or destroying right now today,

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<v Speaker 1>in every idle moment, the technology is not going anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>The algorithm is not going to develop a conscience. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>is going to give you your boredom back. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>take it one uncomfortable minute at a time. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go be bored. Thank you so much for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation. If you enjoyed it, you'll love my chat

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<v Speaker 1>with Adam Grant on why discomfort is the key to

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<v Speaker 1>growth and the strategies for unlocking your hidden potential. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe that comparison is the thief of joy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think envy is the thief of joy. I think social

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<v Speaker 1>comparison is invaluable