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Speaker 2: Hope you are having a spectacular day. Buckle up, gonna

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Speaker 3: Twenty five minutes. Twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: In regards to sports on television this evening, eh, eh,

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you got?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: What do you know?

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Speaker 2: You heard that tomorrow night is could be the last

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Speaker 2: NBA basketball game of the year. Obviously, does feel like

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Speaker 2: Summer League starts like next week and then we get,

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Speaker 2: you know, get the draft in summer league, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But we'll keep talking about and we'll ask Dan Dakich

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Speaker 2: his thoughts on Halliburton. Would he do would he play

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Speaker 2: him if he wasn't fully healthy?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Feels like now's the time in which you take a

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Speaker 2: shot The problem is if you take a shot in

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Speaker 2: the calf, you can play, but you're probably gonna damage

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Speaker 2: your calf even worse and it'd be very hard to

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Speaker 2: see you playing in Game seven. That's I'll explain later

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Speaker 2: on the show. But we can get to NBA stuff.

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Speaker 2: We still have a day. We got some Major League

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Speaker 2: Baseball stuff, a wild game at the Ravine between the

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Speaker 2: Padres and the Dodgers. We have some NFL things to

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Speaker 2: talk to talk about, including Henry Ruggs plading for forgiveness

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Speaker 2: and should he play in the National Football League. But

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Speaker 2: let's let's get to everyone's topic. To Jore, it's Kaitlin

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Speaker 2: Clark and the Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Pre Here's fever.

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Speaker 2: Head coach Stephanie White went off on the WNBA's officiating.

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Speaker 5: I think it was pretty obvious that stuff was brewing,

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Speaker 5: right when the officials don't get control of the ballgame

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Speaker 5: when they allow that stuff to happen. And it's been

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Speaker 5: happening all season long, all season long. It's not just

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Speaker 5: this game, it's been happening all season long. This is

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Speaker 5: what happens, right, This is what happens. You've got competitive

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Speaker 5: women who are the best in the world at what

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Speaker 5: they do right. And when you allow them to play

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Speaker 5: physical and you allow these things to happen, they're going

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Speaker 5: to compete and they're going to have their teammates backs.

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Speaker 5: It's exactly what you expect right out of fierce competition.

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Speaker 5: So I started talking to the officials in the first quarter,

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Speaker 5: and we knew this was going to happen. You could

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Speaker 5: get control of it. They got to be better. Every

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Speaker 5: year when we have our league meetings in the fallen

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Speaker 5: in the spring, we say the same thing over and

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Speaker 5: over and over and nothing has changed.

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Speaker 6: Like, look, their job is hard.

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Speaker 5: You know, the game has changed so much. Players are faster,

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Speaker 5: they're better, they're bigger, they're stronger. You know, they're as

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Speaker 5: good as they've ever been there, as athletic as they've

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Speaker 4: The game is.

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Speaker 5: Fast now, things are happening quickly. Everybody's getting better except

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Speaker 5: the officials. So we got to find a way to

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Speaker 5: remedy it. I mean, you've heard every coach talk about it,

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Speaker 5: So I don't know what the answer is.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of good in there, and really smart

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Speaker 2: from Stephane White, who's a former tremendous player in her

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Speaker 2: and a lot of the pushing and the shoving whatever,

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Speaker 2: she made it about the officials, which is smart because

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Speaker 3: That's like an easy one and she's not wrong either.

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Speaker 2: Where you got to know when it's why the start

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Speaker 2: of the second half oftentimes you'll see things get really

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Speaker 2: but it really kind of levels it out. That's quality efficiating.

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Speaker 2: But if we get down to it, what's behind it?

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Speaker 2: What's behind it is is I think a twofold one.

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Speaker 2: It's the belief that the only way you can play

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Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark is to play her physical. If you allow

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Speaker 2: think that covers for the fact that there's a lot

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Speaker 2: they won he laughs, last, always lasts best. She shot

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Speaker 2: this signifies that she's trending towards being the best player

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Speaker 3: That's my you'll take away.

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Speaker 2: Because, believe it or not, again, I'm not saying she's

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Speaker 2: Jordan or will be the Jordan of women's basketball, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff feels like what Michael Jordan

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Speaker 3: Why jealousy? Okay, they're trying to put him in his.

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Speaker 2: Place, just like the team USA Basketball last year not

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Speaker 2: selecting her. Why put her in place? Jealousy? You know,

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Speaker 2: want to make sure she earns it first. Also, she

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Speaker 2: went to a terrible team. They let go of the coach.

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Speaker 2: I hired a more competent coach and surrounded her with

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Speaker 2: better players, and slowly but truly they built. And while

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Speaker 2: times the Pistons knock him on his ass while he

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying she's Michael Jordan, but there are some

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Speaker 2: parallels to the Michael Jordan effect and things he went

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Speaker 2: through that I think Caitlin Clark is going through.

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Speaker 3: And you do. You don't have to.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to do the Tom Brady or anytime

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Speaker 2: but you do have to protect your primary assets. And

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Speaker 2: she is an absolute asset to this work. And man,

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Speaker 2: did that get out of control?

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Speaker 7: Yes, Stambyre, I think that the comparison to what Jordan

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Speaker 7: The thing that I thought was interesting last night that

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Speaker 7: And also if you watch how certain players still aren't

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Speaker 7: intriguing about this is there's been progress made, just like

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Speaker 7: Charles Oakley there right now. Now, Sophie Cunningham's like, all right,

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Speaker 7: I'll take that role. So she goes and commitched the fouls.

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Speaker 7: But I'm still not sure everybody is all in on

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Speaker 7: the Caitlin Clark thing. I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 7: The biggest takeaway I had last night was that Sophie

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Speaker 7: last year there was really none of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. One of my takeaways is how many people out

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Speaker 2: there know who Tina Charles is. I mean, I do,

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Speaker 2: I know?

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Speaker 3: You do. I'm guessing Sam you do as well.

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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, she's she's on the side.

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Speaker 8: She's been in the league.

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Speaker 9: She's like one of the all time scorers, greatest scorers

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Speaker 2: Right, right, She's a great all time player. But here's

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Speaker 2: what I believe is part of what's happening, and the

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Speaker 2: Jordan thing is part of it. There's a little magic

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Speaker 3: Bird. There was a little bit of mix. Obviously.

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Speaker 2: I think some of it was because he's white, some

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Speaker 2: of the attention that he got. But Tina Charles is

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Speaker 2: one of the greatest women's basketball players ever ever. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not a historian for the wn for the women's

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Speaker 2: But the average fan, even the w NBA fan, if

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Speaker 2: that era didn't resonate at all. So what happens with

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Speaker 2: so many of these women is they just get jealous.

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Speaker 2: Just like you're hearing people who talk about how we

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Speaker 3: Whatever. That's how they feel about players.

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Speaker 2: Kaylin Clark's getting all this shine Tina Charles like, I

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Speaker 2: was a great player for fifteen years and nobody gave

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Speaker 2: It's the weirdest league ever ever because it used to

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Speaker 2: some people's sexual preference, you'll have players dating other players

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Speaker 2: Like that's a real thing, and straight versus gay people

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Speaker 2: don't always get along. That's aside from all the other

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Speaker 2: then come back, that's happened. It's such a different dynamic.

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Speaker 2: But many of their a lot of these issues are

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Speaker 2: And I think the one thing I do understand, if

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Speaker 2: make sure this team understands that they're not that great

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Speaker 2: mind that if you ask anybody, and I know people

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Speaker 2: the crowd at those games are all moms and little girls.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be really careful now that your league

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Speaker 3: Short and long term future.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's got to be a summer family bring your

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Speaker 2: They become overreactive and super defensive, and then they screw

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Speaker 2: Of, for example, last night's game, which seemed to spin

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Speaker 4: but that's how So it's not just it's not just

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Speaker 4: the you know, the w NBA, it's it's all across

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Speaker 4: of fishing and personally as a coach and as a

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Speaker 4: broadcaster watching the fish, I didn't give a damn whether

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Speaker 4: the guy was black, white, green or printple. You know,

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Speaker 4: there are some guys get in there and you're like,

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Speaker 4: I don't want that guy. You know, that guy stinks

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Speaker 4: on the road. That guy stinks at home. I always

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Speaker 4: said Teddy Valentine was the best official to have when

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Speaker 4: you're on the road because he wasn't afraid and you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean he but he got wrongly criticized, but he

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Speaker 4: did a great job. So it's all across sports. You

446
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Speaker 4: just hire the best people and figure it out. At WNBA,

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Speaker 4: by their own ambition.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't do that stuck out leave show here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Tradio. Let's go to the NBA Tyr's Haliburton. How

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Speaker 2: bad do you think the cav actually is.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's bad. I don't I think it's

452
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Speaker 4: an easy narrative. I wanted him, you know, I watched

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Speaker 4: him move. I thought the bigger problem was lou Dort.

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Speaker 4: Lou Dort's become like my favorite all time basketball player.

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Speaker 4: Back in the day, lou Dort would have just been

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Speaker 4: a defensive guy. Lou Dort made threes. Lou Dort man,

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Speaker 4: he ain't afraid. I mean, he is a mother and Doug.

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Speaker 4: I went to Game three, and I didn't know lou

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Speaker 4: Dort not gonna lie. I knew the name. I know

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Speaker 4: he's a defensive guy. I knew all that. But I'm

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Speaker 4: sitting close enough in Game three here in Indy Or

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Speaker 4: I could see his face, and this was a determined

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Speaker 4: guy on every single possession, didn't take one off. Maybe

464
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Speaker 4: he got beat because he's Guarden, a good player. But

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Speaker 4: I think Halliburton's problem was it wasn't a lower leg

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Speaker 4: or whatever they hell their conic cat. I think it

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Speaker 4: was lou Dort. I think Luccort kicked his ass in

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Speaker 4: in game five. And you know, if they're going to win,

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Speaker 4: Number one, he's got to play. Number two, he's got

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Speaker 4: to play really well, and number three he can't do

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Speaker 4: that passive stuff that he does. You know, the way

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Speaker 4: you beat a terrific defense. You know, we learned this garden,

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Speaker 4: you know, playing against Coach Katie's teams when they were

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Speaker 4: really good with playing Robinson. You go right at him,

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Speaker 4: you drive right at him. Pacers didn't do that until

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Speaker 4: later on in the first half, and TJ McConnell made

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Speaker 4: a living doing that. You go right act them. It's

478
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Speaker 4: like a shot bocker, you go right active. And Halliburton

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Speaker 4: kept going left and right. He wasn't going forward, and

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Speaker 4: lou Dort man he got locked in. You know this,

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Speaker 4: you can get high does the defender. You can get

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Speaker 4: really hot as a defender. You know, you can know

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Speaker 4: that you've got that guy in your hip pocket. You're

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Speaker 4: making it moves on him defensively before he makes them offensively.

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Speaker 4: And that's what it seemed like Dort did did to Halliburton.

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Speaker 2: Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. I love

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Speaker 2: that you love lou Dort. I mean he's no that

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Speaker 2: that whole. I mean, you have Lou Dort and Caruso

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Speaker 2: who are unbelievable versatile defenders, and you know, the guys

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Speaker 2: that score get the shine, but they're probably just as

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Speaker 2: important just as moving moving the thunder if they can

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Speaker 2: win a championship. What's the likelihood that Indiana forces the

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Speaker 2: game seven?

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Speaker 4: What's it like or what's a likelihood.

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Speaker 3: What's the likelihood?

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Speaker 4: You know, Doug first two games, even though the Pacers

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Speaker 4: won Game one, I didn't think the Pacers were nearly

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Speaker 4: as good. I thought they got their ask kicked for

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Speaker 4: about what ninety of the ninety six minutes, and then

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I went to game three, I

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Speaker 4: watched game four, game five, and the Pacers did what

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Speaker 4: they normally don't do, which is give the ball up

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Speaker 4: late in games. They were nine and one and whatever

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Speaker 4: that whatever it means clutch games in the playoffs, and

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Speaker 4: now they're nine and three because they've you know, they

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Speaker 4: turned it over. And one thing about the Pacers, particularly Haliburton,

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Speaker 4: he don't turn it over. He's been fifteen to zip

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs. So I feel like the Pacers gonna

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Speaker 4: win game six. I don't know if they can go

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Speaker 4: in there and win game seven. You know, everybody says, well,

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Speaker 4: you take your chances on a game seven. Hell yeah,

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Speaker 4: But I feel like everybody told me that Okase was

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Speaker 4: so much better. And they were games one and two again,

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Speaker 4: even though the Pacers made that miraculous come back. But

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Speaker 4: I think PACER's gonna win here game six. And I'm

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Speaker 4: not being a homer. Hell you know that. I tell

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Speaker 4: you whether I thought they were gonna get blown out,

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Speaker 4: but I will say this. Haliburton doesn't play, then you

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Speaker 4: know that ain't happening. But I'm they fairly, fairly, fairly

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Speaker 4: certain he's gonna play.

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Speaker 3: Cooper Flag, what do you do?

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Speaker 4: I think he's great. I think he's I said this,

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Speaker 4: he I always thought in my world. Now, Magic Johnson

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Speaker 4: was the best freshman prospect that I ever saw. That

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Speaker 4: goes way back. Cooper Flags right there with him. Like

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Speaker 4: but but but you know, what's he gonna do when

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Speaker 4: he gets money? What's he gonna do when he gets fame?

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Speaker 4: What's he gonna do? Is he gonna you know, is

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Speaker 4: he gonna go do with Michael Jordan, Peyton Manning, Tiger Woods? Uh,

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Speaker 4: Magic Johnson? You know Lebron Is he gonna go be

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Speaker 4: fanatical about being a pro or is he gonna settle?

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Speaker 4: Because I think the dude has every every talent that

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Speaker 4: you want. I mean, what doesn't he do? And you know,

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Speaker 4: Doug I was I learned this long time ago. You

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Speaker 4: kind of judge guys. Okay, would they be basketball players

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Speaker 4: if they were six feet tall? Oh yeah, he'd be

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Speaker 4: a really good one. He just happens to be six

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Speaker 4: foot nine. I love him. I think he is a

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Speaker 4: great prospect in every area. But you know, what's he

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Speaker 4: gonna do? What's he gonna It's like tech Nicola said

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Speaker 4: the Tiger Woods. You know what, he should break my record.

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Speaker 4: He's better. He's the best golf for ever. But what's

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Speaker 4: gonna happen when he gets a wife and kids? And

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Speaker 4: what in the NBA is gonna happen when you get

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Speaker 4: all that fame? Are you're gonna be in the club

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Speaker 4: or you're gonna be working out it? You can be fanatical,

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Speaker 4: you can be insane. You know. Paton Manning used to

548
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Speaker 4: drive from here after workouts to Columbus, Ohio to throw

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Speaker 4: with Anthony Gonzalez, the first round pick, because Gonzales couldn't

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Speaker 4: be here he was in school. I mean, are you

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Speaker 4: gonna do stuff like that or are you just gonna

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Speaker 4: go along? I don't know, but I think he's a

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Speaker 4: great prospect.

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Speaker 2: Awesome stuff. Dan Dowcas the show is called Don't at

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Speaker 2: Me it's on OutKick. It's outstanding, so is Dad w D.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, man, Thanks.

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Speaker 4: Brother, anytime you know that, say buddy.

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

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Speaker 6: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 2: At s Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I want

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Speaker 2: to make sure this is clear. Okay, we're playing for you,

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Speaker 2: Willy Nelson, because Willie Nelson announced he's no longer smoking weed.

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Speaker 2: And if you read it, it's not he's not giving

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Speaker 2: it up because he's like doing something altruistic, like I'm

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Speaker 2: giving it up because it's a bad like. No, No,

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Speaker 2: he's given up because he's just his lungs are fried.

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Speaker 2: But oftentimes when you play somebody like Willie on the radio,

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Speaker 2: people would think at ninety two years old he has passed.

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Speaker 3: He has not.

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Speaker 2: Willie Nelson still healthy enough. Just said he stopped smoking weed.

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Speaker 2: And that's where Sam was listening and appreciate that. With

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Speaker 2: you a game with Dan Byer.

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Speaker 6: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 7: All right, Doug, the game today is for better or worse?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 7: For better or worse? We're talking June's series, NBA Finals

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Speaker 7: versus Stanley Cup Final. What's been better or worse?

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Speaker 4: Doug?

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Speaker 7: Did you take in any of the hockey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got a lot of the hockey.

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Speaker 7: Last night it was what do they say, fitte? Is

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Speaker 7: that a good French? I don't know, Sam, how would

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Speaker 7: you say it?

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Speaker 4: It was?

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Speaker 7: It was over, it was done.

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Speaker 6: We come from France.

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Speaker 7: It was pretty much over before it started. But what's

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Speaker 7: been a better series? We had a couple of overtime

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Speaker 7: games in the Stanley Cup Final. It's over there er

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Speaker 7: Rex three to row, yes, I believe actually with three

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Speaker 7: then three games?

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Speaker 3: Three games?

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Game two for the NBA Finals was a snooze. Other

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Speaker 2: games have been very competitive. I think NBA Finals have

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Speaker 2: been better.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 3: I think it's very close. I almost feel like Nick mackay,

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Speaker 3: push push, I'll go push.

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Speaker 7: I actually think that this series is mirrored how the

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Speaker 7: teams have played. Maybe Florida is a little bit better

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Speaker 7: than what Oklahoma City is, but Florida was just better

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Speaker 7: than Edmonton in the final. All right, moving on for

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Speaker 7: better or worse celebration when you win a title NBA

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Speaker 7: versus NHL.

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Speaker 2: NHL is far better, not close skating around with the

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Speaker 2: puck a day with the staying around with the cup

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Speaker 2: a day with the cup, not club.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with that. The team picture, yeah you

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Speaker 7: have yep again. I told you about my heartbreak in

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Speaker 7: my NHL video game a decade and a half ago

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Speaker 7: when I did win a season. When I bought the game,

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Speaker 7: I think I bought NHL eighteen. It's the one with

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Speaker 7: Austin Matthews on the cover. I took a picture when

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Speaker 7: I won the Stanley Cup of my team winning the

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Speaker 7: cup because that was one of the graphics they put

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Speaker 7: in the game. It means a lot, really does.

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Speaker 4: And you know I was.

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Speaker 9: I had the coverage on and they spend a solid

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Speaker 9: twenty minutes where each guy is going around the yeah,

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Speaker 9: the rink and with the cup above his head, and

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Speaker 9: like each guy gets to take a couple laps and

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Speaker 9: it's like a really drawn out, but everyone's just cheering.

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Speaker 9: I mean it is quite celebration.

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Speaker 3: It's tradition.

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Speaker 7: It's a good one, all right. For better or worse.

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Speaker 7: Nickname Doug Thunder versus Pacers Push Push, Jason Sam, you

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Speaker 7: want to you want to weigh in on any of this.

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Speaker 9: I think Pacers is is cool. I mean goes back

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Speaker 9: to the obviously this the racing yes aspect, and I

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Speaker 9: just started saying PACER's gonna pace during this playoff and

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Speaker 9: it means nothing. I think they're yes sirs, Yeah, yes, sir,

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Speaker 9: cool shirts, yeahs.

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Speaker 8: I think there's an always an issue with me with

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Speaker 8: teams that are not plural, teams that don't have an

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Speaker 8: S on the name. It just never quite sits right

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Speaker 8: with me. So I'll never except though.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you on on Oklahoma City, right, the

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Speaker 2: tornadoes wouldn't have worked, right, but twisters underdoes twisters? I

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Speaker 2: don't know then you would have had to Is it

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Speaker 2: trademarked with the Mattel game?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: They had a storm warning? Remember was it during game two?

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Speaker 2: There was a game game two last night. My kids

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Speaker 2: were in the cellar because there was a tornado warning

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Speaker 2: in North Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 3: So I think they both fit.

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Speaker 2: Indies synonymous with the Indy five hundred that's the pace car,

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Speaker 2: and with Oklahoma City synonymous with a lot of things

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Speaker 2: oil and gas industry, but also Tornado Alley and the

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Speaker 2: nicest way to get Tornado Alley's the thunder kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: It works like.

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Speaker 7: I just like the fact that I don't think there's

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Speaker 7: other teams that are also the Pacers, where there's you're

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Speaker 7: not going to have a lacrosse league.

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Speaker 3: Team, or you know, is there another high school the thunder.

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Speaker 7: I think that there's. I bet you there's way more

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Speaker 7: Thunder than there are Pacers in other team sports for sure.

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Speaker 7: Has to be such a trendy sort of thing. Into

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Speaker 7: Jason's point in the West at the end, Yeah, I

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Speaker 7: would bet. I would bet. Well, I'll do some research,

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Speaker 7: okay for better or worse Doug World, So you're going

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Speaker 7: into your own research, Yeah, do my own research. World

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Speaker 7: series baseball versus softball, Oklahoma City versus Omaha, not the cities,

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Speaker 7: but baseball or softball? What do you like better?

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Speaker 3: I call me crazy. I like women's softball better.

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Speaker 7: There's a reason why it's a question. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 7: reason why it's a question.

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Speaker 4: No, it's.

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Speaker 2: I do think there's something There's always been something cool

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Speaker 2: about Omaha, right, and the setup of Omaha where old

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Speaker 2: Rosenblatt Stadium and now the new stadium is located, and

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Speaker 2: it's a big event for the city. It's not as

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Speaker 2: much a big event for Oklahoma City. But the actual games,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, they're just exciting. And again you go

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Speaker 2: from I pay a little bit of attention to college

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Speaker 2: baseball to the College World Series. I pay no attention

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Speaker 2: to softball, then love the series, Softball stuck. Got Leab

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Speaker 2: show here on Fox Sports Radio the Midway. You're waiting

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Speaker 2: for all week.

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