Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of things that's been going
Speaker 1: on in the sports world today that's been invading the news,
Speaker 1: invading the headlines and the digital stratosphere, especially as it
Speaker 1: pertains to what's transpiring at Fox Sports. And here's the
Speaker 1: one conclusion that I deduce from all of this, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there that just ain't worth
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Speaker 1: get into today, and I'm definitely going to get into it.
Speaker 1: But we all know where we got to get started
Speaker 1: on this particular day, and that's getting started with the lawsuit.
Speaker 1: The recent lawsuit filed against Fox Fox Sports and several
Speaker 1: current and former peronel there, including my former colleague, the
Speaker 1: one and only Skip Bayless. The forty two page document
Speaker 1: filed by a woman named Nushen Faraji, a former hairstylist
Speaker 1: for the company, cite several instances of workplace misconduct. The
Speaker 1: suit named several defendants, including Fox Sports executive vice president
Speaker 1: Charlie Dixon and host Joy Taylor. Faraji alleges Dixon grabbed
Speaker 1: her behind at a birthday party, and when she relayed
Speaker 1: the encounter with Joey Taylor, the Fox host allegedly told
Speaker 1: her to quote, get over it. And that is where
Speaker 1: I feel compelled to begin today. There's been a lot
Speaker 1: of reaction to this story all over social media. Has
Speaker 1: it been about Charlie Dixon, Not that much. Has it
Speaker 1: even been about Skip Bayless, not that much at all.
Speaker 1: Has it been about Fox Sports overall? Really not that
Speaker 1: much at all. It's all significantly paled in comparison to
Speaker 1: the level of vitriol, venom, insults and and beyond aimed
Speaker 1: at one missus, Joy Taylor. And that's why I want
Speaker 1: to bring on my next guest. I shouldn't call her
Speaker 1: a guest. She's a journalist. She's a former news anchor
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. She's a personally personal good friend of mine,
Speaker 1: and she's a damn good friend of the show. Over
Speaker 1: the last few days, and I'm talking about the one
Speaker 1: and only Tory Cooper. She's back here with yours truly
Speaker 1: right now, Toy, how are you?
Speaker 2: How's everything going?
Speaker 3: I'm doing well?
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 2: Listen?
Speaker 1: I had to bring you back because I wanted to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on what I just brought up about
Speaker 1: Joy Taylor. And as you've watched all of this unfold,
Speaker 1: I know you like myself, we've read the forty two
Speaker 1: page you know allegations you know righte with allegations against
Speaker 1: Joy Taylor, against Charlie Dixon, against Skip Bayless, specifically pertaining
Speaker 1: to Joy Taylor. I want to know what your thoughts
Speaker 1: are about all the heat that she's been taking over
Speaker 1: the last few days.
Speaker 3: Why is such a focus on Joy Taylor. First of all,
Speaker 3: she's not being accused of sexual battery, She's not being
Speaker 3: accused sexual harassment. She's being accused of engaging in sexual
Speaker 3: behavior to earn her spot that she has on Fox Sports. Now,
Speaker 3: the problem I have with this, Steven, is this continues
Speaker 3: to be the issue in this industry. Is when a
Speaker 3: man gets there in any industry, really, when a man
Speaker 3: gets there, he earned it. When a woman gets there,
Speaker 3: she slept your way to the top seven half. And
Speaker 3: so that's issue number one. Issue number two is that
Speaker 3: we're just going to completely negate her experience and the
Speaker 3: fact that she is more than qualified to be in
Speaker 3: this role. And if you just read this lawsuit at
Speaker 3: face value, and this is my problem with these lawsuits
Speaker 3: is people just take it as fact. These are allegations
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, and when you look
Speaker 3: at this lawsuit and you comb through it at face value,
Speaker 3: they paint her as a bartender who had little experience,
Speaker 3: who was a radio experience in radio and was not
Speaker 3: qualified for Fox Sports. So she was working as a
Speaker 3: a fill an anchor and a bartender at the same time.
Speaker 3: I've worked two jobs to get into this industry. I
Speaker 3: worked behind the scenes first, so we don't earn these
Speaker 3: spots lightly. And that's where I get really frustrated with
Speaker 3: people on social media who are trying to come for
Speaker 3: this woman's experience and credibility to be considered for this role.
Speaker 3: So let's just go back into the history really quick,
Speaker 3: into her experience, and so we want to talk about it.
Speaker 3: She worked behind the scenes as an executive producer. That's
Speaker 3: someone who writes the shows for the people you see
Speaker 3: with the mic one. Then she worked her way into
Speaker 3: a slot to be a co host on that show,
Speaker 3: on that radio show in Miami. Then on top of that,
Speaker 3: she took the show to number one. She took the
Speaker 3: show to number one, and then after that then she
Speaker 3: makes her way to California. Is essentially doing what it
Speaker 3: appears to be freelancing, and it's filling in and working
Speaker 3: to get that spot and eventually she gets called on
Speaker 3: many people right now, stephen A would say, I'm not
Speaker 3: even qualified to sit next to you. But it's not
Speaker 3: always about experience. If it was about experience in this industry,
Speaker 3: then so many people wouldn't even have the spots they have.
Speaker 3: It's about a lot of other intangibles. But for this
Speaker 3: specific issue, this woman was more than qualified. She's been
Speaker 3: a credible a Fox Sports commentator and she's doing her job.
Speaker 3: So that's the big issue. Another issue on social media
Speaker 3: I'm saying that's very upsetting is that people are saying.
Speaker 5: You know, this is why women shouldn't be in sports,
Speaker 5: This is why we don't want women involved in this
Speaker 5: because we're going to be faced with these allegations and
Speaker 5: this is give us our world back this is not
Speaker 5: your world. You're not going to claim the sports environment.
Speaker 3: And this is the problem that I have because at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, this is a form of
Speaker 3: entertainment that anyone can share, not anyone, but people can
Speaker 3: share their take on it, and people can be engaged
Speaker 3: in this topic. Lastly, this is the main issue I
Speaker 3: have with this. This is another woman who's a minority
Speaker 3: to stay who's also claiming that another woman who's a
Speaker 3: minority did this. So I know that the female sports
Speaker 3: anchors of the world right now are all cringing because
Speaker 3: they're like, wow, oh, you just continue to feed right
Speaker 3: into this, the same narrative that we don't deserve to
Speaker 3: be up here at the desk with these men who love, live, breathe,
Speaker 3: and sleep this topic. So now it's always about us
Speaker 3: sleeping with people to get to the spot we're in.
Speaker 3: And then now another woman is going to feed right
Speaker 3: into that with these allegations. So it doesn't help. We're
Speaker 3: up against as women in this industry to have allegations
Speaker 3: like this circulating around. But this also, she could file
Speaker 3: her own lawsuit. She could. There's nothing has been proven,
Speaker 3: So that's why all leaving.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing people need to understand. That's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that you might not be hearing anything
Speaker 1: from her, nor skip baitlos to anybody else, because they
Speaker 1: can turn around and.
Speaker 2: Sue and they got there.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the allegations that have been thrown
Speaker 1: out against them, think about, you know, the need that
Speaker 1: they may feel to retaliate, and as a result of that,
Speaker 1: I think that is even further requirement for people to
Speaker 1: be careful.
Speaker 2: But let me tell you why I wanted.
Speaker 1: You on here, Tory, because I have to admit I'm
Speaker 1: pretty pissed off. That is a there's a few people's
Speaker 1: names I'm not gonna mention because damn it, they ain't
Speaker 1: worth it. Okay, and I get that, but there's a
Speaker 1: few men out there that are acting like, you know,
Speaker 1: this is the perfect excuse to justify why we make
Speaker 1: the argument that women don't belong in the industry, which
Speaker 1: is incredibly are an incredibly egregious thing to say. Okay,
Speaker 1: they'll look at any woman sitting in a host chair,
Speaker 1: or any woman that's a reporter out there, or any
Speaker 1: woman that has to walk into the locker room, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, their credibility is being questioned.
Speaker 2: My thing.
Speaker 1: What I'm more pulled at by, rather even that, is
Speaker 1: the women all over social media that are allowing it
Speaker 1: to happen. And that's why I wanted you on the
Speaker 1: show today, because I said, I'm not gonna speak about
Speaker 1: it just from from the male perspective. I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: a female in front of me that I can bounce
Speaker 1: this off of to check me in case I'm wrong
Speaker 1: about this, correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time looking all over social media,
Speaker 1: but I'm looking at an abundance of women, and I'm
Speaker 1: saying the allegations.
Speaker 2: I understand what the allegations are.
Speaker 1: The allegations of joy Ta slept with Charlie Dixon, and
Speaker 1: she oss and she did it while she was married,
Speaker 1: and well, first of all, the marriage part of her
Speaker 1: business is nobody else's. The boss situation, obviously is dicey,
Speaker 1: Make no mistake about it. You got a girl that
Speaker 1: was supposed to be her best friend that's supposedly diming
Speaker 1: her out right now, that's incredibly unfortunate, But one could
Speaker 1: easily argue it's really not about your guilt of innocence.
Speaker 2: It's about how guilty.
Speaker 1: I make you look forcing you to capitulate to the
Speaker 1: demands that I'm making civilly.
Speaker 2: We can get into that a little bit later.
Speaker 1: But what I find most egregious, most egregious toy, is
Speaker 1: the abundance of women out there who are laughing, who
Speaker 1: are pointing the finger at Joey Taylor with a profound
Speaker 1: level of guilt, as if they know. Even when they
Speaker 1: throw in the word allegedly, they do it with smirks
Speaker 1: on their face, sort of dismissive because in this business,
Speaker 1: we know how to speak with our body language, not
Speaker 1: just with words. And not only that, they're using it
Speaker 1: as an excuse to question her credibility. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened. You don't know what happened. We don't
Speaker 1: know what level of truth or falsehood exists with the
Speaker 1: allegations that no Shine Faraji has thrown in the direction
Speaker 1: of the executive at fox Board, Skip Bayless, Joy Taylor,
Speaker 1: or anybody else.
Speaker 2: But let me tell you what I do know.
Speaker 1: I know that I've seen Joy Taylor on TV a
Speaker 1: lot over the years, and I think she's pretty damn good.
Speaker 1: I think she's ready, I think she's very capable. I
Speaker 1: think she's worthy of the position that she has on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports. I think her podcast with Taylor Rooks is
Speaker 1: a damn good podcast. I think her credentials in this
Speaker 1: business have been established.
Speaker 2: I did an interview just yesterday. I was being interviewed
Speaker 2: by a.
Speaker 1: God by the name of Sid Rosenberg, a longtime conservative
Speaker 1: radio host, and he was telling me how Jason Taylor,
Speaker 1: the former Miami Dolphin, that Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Her big her brother.
Speaker 1: Rather, he had called to see if he could help,
Speaker 1: if Sid could help her get a job in the business,
Speaker 1: and he ended up hiring her. And obviously, like you
Speaker 1: pointed out, she produced when she had the opportunity, and
Speaker 1: that's what created other opportunities for her. So I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it, Toy, and I'm saying, wait a minute here,
Speaker 1: am I watching this correctly? They're an abundance of women
Speaker 1: out there that are using this as a license to
Speaker 1: question her credentials based off of having you not have
Speaker 1: you not watched her over the years on television, And
Speaker 1: if you're going to do that, okay, why would you?
Speaker 1: Why would you want to do that? Even That's where
Speaker 1: I'm at with it, Toy. That's my problem. The fact
Speaker 1: that people are using this as an excuse to question
Speaker 1: her conventers if she just got the job yesterday or
Speaker 1: last week or last.
Speaker 2: Month or something, that would be one thing.
Speaker 1: She's been on TV for years showing her capability, and
Speaker 1: now all of that is being ignored because of allegations.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at with the tour. We where are you?
Speaker 3: There's the court of public opinion and then there's real court, right,
Speaker 3: and again these are allegations and use it having women
Speaker 3: you know, essentially, I mean to me, it seems like
Speaker 3: it could be coming from a place of jealousy, like ooh,
Speaker 3: finally put a target on her back. Now we can
Speaker 3: say she wasn't qualified because not only is she beautiful,
Speaker 3: but now we can say she wasn't qualified in dinner
Speaker 3: or spot And I'm not shocked by it. People are Okay,
Speaker 3: There's one thing I do want to talk about, and
Speaker 3: it is your looks. Your looks play into this. When
Speaker 3: you are beautiful, you are up against a different battle
Speaker 3: at times in this industry. I mean, people are always
Speaker 3: going to try to say that your looks played into this,
Speaker 3: Your looks do help you in this. We cannot ignore that.
Speaker 1: Pause pause, One thing. One thing your looks or how
Speaker 1: you present yourself? Right question which one I'm asking.
Speaker 3: No, it's about how you present yourself. But the looks
Speaker 3: do contribute to whether or not you have an on
Speaker 3: camera look or not. If you ask any news director
Speaker 3: right now, they are going to say, does she pop
Speaker 3: through the screen? Does she make me pay attention? I'm
Speaker 3: going to side in thirty seconds, whether or not I
Speaker 3: want her on my show? Can she grab an audience?
Speaker 3: That's what they're asking. So, yes, your looks are part
Speaker 3: of it, but it's about your presentation and you know,
Speaker 3: but there's other parts of this that I You know,
Speaker 3: these allegations that do matter that I believe should set
Speaker 3: precedent and hopefully change because when we come on and
Speaker 3: talk about these issues, there's an opportunity for change. I
Speaker 3: do believe that, and in this realm, I would say
Speaker 3: some of the things that I've seen that are disappointing,
Speaker 3: and if they are true, then maybe there's an opportunity
Speaker 3: for change. Personally, I would not be going out to
Speaker 3: drinks with my bosses. We don't know if that happened.
Speaker 3: That is one of the allegations that was made, but
Speaker 3: on principle, I'm not going out to drinks with my executives.
Speaker 3: I'm not going out to parties with them for a
Speaker 3: number of reasons. I do not want to be talked
Speaker 3: about in my newsroom like that. Why was she out
Speaker 3: to drinks with them? What is she doing? I don't
Speaker 3: want them knowing my personal life. I don't want my
Speaker 3: bosses knowing my personal life. Number two and then number three,
Speaker 3: Now you're opening yourself up to rumors to spread about
Speaker 3: you that look like this. So this is why you cannot.
Speaker 3: You have to strike the right balance when you're going
Speaker 3: to take a professional person into a public environment outside
Speaker 3: the professional work setting, because now you're opening yourself up
Speaker 3: to these types of allegations. So one, watch how you're moving,
Speaker 3: watch how you carry yourself in the work links, because
Speaker 3: this is what you're going to open yourself up to potentially,
Speaker 3: especially if you're the one in the highest spot, a
Speaker 3: hairstylist is going to potentially come for you in this way. Now,
Speaker 3: mind you, again, these are allegations. I just want to
Speaker 3: continue to point that out because it's essential to this conversation.
Speaker 3: So that's one of the main issues I wanted to
Speaker 3: bring up, is not taking your bosses out to lunch
Speaker 3: and dinner and opening yourself up to this type of conversation,
Speaker 3: and three or two sending the wrong signals. You gotta
Speaker 3: make sure you're not sending the.
Speaker 1: Wrong Dressing provocatively, drinking, speaking in a certain way that
Speaker 1: that's unprofessional, that's more informal than formal. All of those
Speaker 1: things definitely contribute to it. And I don't disagree.
Speaker 3: You talked about the attire and the room for change,
Speaker 3: and if you're okay with this, I would love to
Speaker 3: talk about that piece to it, because please take one
Speaker 3: of the talk to One of the things that people
Speaker 3: have talked about is the sports environment is a more
Speaker 3: laxed environment. You can wear a little bit, you can
Speaker 3: be more yourself, you can you know, test the waters
Speaker 3: a little bit about what you're gonna wear. Personally, I've
Speaker 3: been disappointed in some of the stuff I've been seeing
Speaker 3: when they're wear in the sports environment, and not just
Speaker 3: the sports environment meteorologists, they're also wearing clothes that I'm
Speaker 3: not excited about. Because here's the thing. Don't you want
Speaker 3: to pay attention to what I'm saying. Don't you want
Speaker 3: people to pay attention to what I'm saying? My skill
Speaker 3: set don't be a distraction in the workplace, all right,
Speaker 3: you want people to care about what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Toy Cooper, Tory Cooper, Tory Cooper.
Speaker 1: Fit enough. But this is the stephen A. Smith Show,
Speaker 1: so you know where I'm going. I'm gonna ask this question.
Speaker 1: I need specifics.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not names.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when you talk about you don't like
Speaker 1: the stuff that people wear in the industry.
Speaker 2: I need examples, and the ladies out there need examples.
Speaker 3: Perfect example, crop tops showing your midrift on air. I
Speaker 3: don't care to see your belly button. We're not at
Speaker 3: the beach, but I see it on air in the
Speaker 3: sports world. Hey, that's number one. Number two, Cleavelange, your
Speaker 3: boobs are out. You're distracting people. The main thing is,
Speaker 3: don't be distracting. But it's not just what the lack
Speaker 3: of clothing. It's also the choices of clothing too. The
Speaker 3: patterns are distracting. I'm seeing people wearing cheet of print,
Speaker 3: I'm seeing people wearing pinstripes. I'm seeing people wear all
Speaker 3: kinds of stuff that is completely distracting to the viewer.
Speaker 3: The point of television that you were so opposed to
Speaker 3: learn early on is don't be a distraction to the viewer.
Speaker 3: Let them pay attention to what you're saying. But too
Speaker 3: many times I'm seeing people warn't, you know, inviting in
Speaker 3: to be a distraction. It looks like they want to
Speaker 3: be a distraction, honestly, and it looks like they want
Speaker 3: the attention at times. And what are we here for.
Speaker 3: We're here to be professionals, So let's show up that
Speaker 3: way so people can focus on your skill and what
Speaker 3: you have to say. Otherwise you're inviting the step of
Speaker 3: behavior in In my opinion.
Speaker 1: Is there any truth to the notion that people have
Speaker 1: speculated about that you have someplaces and I can assure
Speaker 1: you it's not Disney, I can promise you that, but
Speaker 1: that there's some truth to the notion that you may
Speaker 1: have certain networks that encourage that directly or indirectly, for
Speaker 1: females to feel the need to dress in a certain
Speaker 1: provocative way. Have you or have you heard of any
Speaker 1: ladies in the industry expressing the notion that this is
Speaker 1: what their bosses wanted.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've heard that. I heard that that's the environment
Speaker 3: that you're in and especially so here's the thing, consultants matter.
Speaker 3: This is why you're supposed to have consultants come consult
Speaker 3: you on your wardrobe, consult you on your makeup. And
Speaker 3: if these consultants are continuing to lean into a cult drobe,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, that's the waters. Yeah where that right color?
Speaker 3: Show your you know, yes, they are contributing to it
Speaker 3: at the end of the day. That's what I've heard
Speaker 3: for sure. But heresay's hearsay.
Speaker 1: Right, I guess for me, going back to my original point,
Speaker 1: it's not about what you say sometimes, it's about how
Speaker 1: you say it.
Speaker 2: So if you've had women all over social.
Speaker 1: Media that were pissed off because Joey Taylor finds herself
Speaker 1: in this position and that's what they're oozing, I understand it.
Speaker 1: If you have women who were of the opinion, no,
Speaker 1: this is just an allegation, it's not facts such as yourself,
Speaker 1: such as me and what have you, And they said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what benefit of the doubt and a sentatel
Speaker 1: proven guilty, etc. And by the way, she's incredibly qualified
Speaker 1: because we watched her for years and she knows.
Speaker 2: What she's doing. I understand that.
Speaker 1: What I have a problem with is the joy no
Speaker 1: pun intended females over social media appear to be having
Speaker 1: in bringing her credibility in the question, not understanding or
Speaker 1: not being sensitive to the plight that ladies have fought
Speaker 1: for decades to gain and elevate.
Speaker 2: Their level of credibility.
Speaker 1: That's number one and number two of the men who
Speaker 1: will remain nameless because I really don't know. Oh as
Speaker 1: much as they deserve it, I just don't want to
Speaker 1: give them that kind of attention because the sorry asses
Speaker 1: don't deserve it, but are talking in.
Speaker 2: Such a way that they're.
Speaker 1: Acting like women don't belong it, said the street. I
Speaker 1: can't believe they're getting away with stuff like that. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you the last word on this tour. Go
Speaker 1: ahead and respond to that.
Speaker 3: There's room for change. Don't be a distraction the women
Speaker 3: on social media who are coming for Joy Taylor. It
Speaker 3: looks like it's coming from a place of jealousy. So
Speaker 3: that says something about you and the men who want
Speaker 3: to act like we don't belong at the table. Look
Speaker 3: at our credibility. How about you do some research on
Speaker 3: our background. Don't just look at look at the way
Speaker 3: I look. How about you go look into my experience
Speaker 3: and then we'll talk about it, but I'll leave a day.
Speaker 1: I got you, Tory Coop, appreciate you, Tom, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. Thanks for being on the show with me today.
Speaker 2: I'll catch you with you later, right, all right, A
Speaker 2: good day. Now, let's get to the NBA.
Speaker 1: Oh before I do that, I gotta pause for a
Speaker 1: moment here because I got to take a moment to
Speaker 1: acknowledge the wildfires has taken place in southern California, the
Speaker 1: impact they're having on the NBA family, to be specific, Warriors.
Speaker 2: Coach Steve Kerr.
Speaker 1: Lakers coach JJ Reddick said family members evacuated their homes
Speaker 1: with the flames that toured through the Pacific Palisades. With
Speaker 1: thinking of them and the thousands of families in southern
Speaker 1: California impacted by the fire, just wanted to send out
Speaker 1: my heartfelt concerns on behalf of the Stephen A. Smith
Speaker 1: Show for everybody that's being impacted by this. It is
Speaker 1: dangerous out there, So wildfire. I saw a picture of
Speaker 1: the sky. It looks like the sky is on fire.
Speaker 1: For crying out loud. It's very windy as well, which
Speaker 1: is why obviously the fire is spread. It's what it's
Speaker 1: called the wildfire for all right, So I just want
Speaker 1: to let everybody know that our hearts are with everybody
Speaker 1: in Southern California, sincerely hoping and wishing that everybody remained
Speaker 1: safe and they get this stuff contained. Now I want
Speaker 1: to get to the ongoing war words between JJ Reddick,
Speaker 1: head coach for the Los Angeles Lakers, and of course
Speaker 1: mister Charles Barkley himself from TNT NBA Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: By the way, let's not forget that.
Speaker 1: It started in late December when a head coach for
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers spoke about the media bashing the
Speaker 1: game instead of celebrating the game.
Speaker 2: Now, listen, before I even play you this.
Speaker 1: Sound, understand, there's a lot of people that's been saying
Speaker 1: stuff about the game of basketball. They've been talking about
Speaker 1: the NBA ratings have dipped even though they're doing quite well.
Speaker 1: They've been talking a lot about the product that they're
Speaker 1: watching on the court, and you've had people in media
Speaker 1: thinking that the media has contributed to the demise of
Speaker 1: the game because the media is complaining about the game
Speaker 1: too much instead of celebrating the game.
Speaker 2: That prompted JJ Reddick to speak, which.
Speaker 1: Prompted Charles Barkley to come right back at him, which
Speaker 1: prompted JJ Reddick to say something else and Charles Barkley
Speaker 1: to say something else. All of that is what I'm
Speaker 1: about to show you right now. Sit back for the
Speaker 1: next couple of minutes and take a listen and a
Speaker 1: look to this.
Speaker 6: If I'm a casual fan and you tell me every
Speaker 6: time I turn on the television that the product sucks,
Speaker 6: well I'm not going to watch the product. And that's
Speaker 6: really what has happened over the last ten.
Speaker 4: To fifteen years. I don't know why. It's not funny
Speaker 4: to me. Nothing, nothing is entertaining to me. This game
Speaker 4: should be celebrated.
Speaker 7: Hey, JJ Riddick said something about me, JJ, you better
Speaker 7: calm down so when you come for the King, you've
Speaker 7: been not I.
Speaker 4: Don't know did he need you specifically or she's just
Speaker 4: talking about on TV.
Speaker 7: He said something about we're the reason people aren't watching
Speaker 7: this craftic product. We got JJ, Yeah, like we are,
Speaker 7: know jacking up one hundred threes JJ, I know Jason Monroe.
Speaker 7: I don't know who that is, but JJ, you come
Speaker 7: for the King, you better not missed and I can
Speaker 7: get you, brother, because I got Remember, I got your
Speaker 7: Lakers games. You can't hid them flalls.
Speaker 4: They got You're just a dead man walking.
Speaker 7: They got rid of Frank Vogel, who did a good job.
Speaker 7: They got rid of Darburnham, who did a good job.
Speaker 7: If you came out there thinking you were gonna change
Speaker 7: things with that same ugly girl you want.
Speaker 2: Them to pay with.
Speaker 7: I'm JJ Reddick. I can make this thing work. Please
Speaker 7: be professional. You come for me, you better not missed.
Speaker 7: We're the reason ratings are down. With a reason like
Speaker 7: we play hour Listen's exactly right, and men.
Speaker 2: Shot play, the rating would be down. But in fairness,
Speaker 2: we'd be like the.
Speaker 7: Third or four best players on that Laker team right now.
Speaker 7: But it's Frank vocal and Darbyndam's fall. I don't follow nobody,
Speaker 7: but if you hit me, I'm gonna hit you back.
Speaker 4: But make it always all the way through the clip.
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 6: My arresting heart great is probably sixty four. I watched
Speaker 6: it clip it was sixty four. Literally, don't care. I have,
Speaker 6: but there's thoughts, but don't care.
Speaker 7: And the Lakers proved to what I keep saying. The
Speaker 7: Lakers think, plain and simple. We have to talk about
Speaker 7: him because the media is infasciated with the Lakers. But
Speaker 7: the Lakers are not a good team. They got zero
Speaker 7: athletic ability. I mean when you watch him Jason Kidd
Speaker 7: coach to masterpiece tonight, He's like, we can go one
Speaker 7: on one, get any shot.
Speaker 4: We won't.
Speaker 7: They got a good shot every time. The Lakers could
Speaker 7: never keep him in front of him. This was a
Speaker 7: coaching masterpiece by Jason Kidd because there's no way that
Speaker 7: team that the maths put out there, especially one winning
Speaker 7: by twenty.
Speaker 1: Couple of things. Number one to address JJ Reddick the person.
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick doesn't suffer fools, and he's a brilliant, brilliant
Speaker 1: basketball mind, very smart, very intellectual. Prides himself on being
Speaker 1: an intellectual. And so when JJ Reddick essentially in that
Speaker 1: second sound of him saying, I have my thoughts, but
Speaker 1: I'll keep it to myself, when he was talking about
Speaker 1: his art rate hadn't changed, et cetera, et cetera, I
Speaker 1: can tell you what JJ Reddick's thinking about. He's thinking
Speaker 1: about film, he's thinking about analytics that he reads up on.
Speaker 1: He's thinking about the nuances of the game of basketball
Speaker 1: that ultimately made him a head coach, and he's saying
Speaker 1: he knows that it's something that Charles Barkley doesn't necessarily do,
Speaker 1: so he doesn't know more than I know. Please, That's
Speaker 1: how he's thinking about it. Charles Barkley is a bottom
Speaker 1: line kind of individual. He's a Hall of Famer, He's
Speaker 1: one of the greatest players to have ever played, seventy
Speaker 1: fifth Anniversary Team, et cetera, et cetera, Olympic gold medalists,
Speaker 1: a member of the Original Dream Team, one of the
Speaker 1: great great forwards in the history of basketball, whose credential
Speaker 1: speak for itself even though he's devoid of a championship.
Speaker 1: And Charles Barkley is a results oriented dude that's looking
Speaker 1: at the Los Angeles Lakers team that ain't going no
Speaker 1: damn place, one that bounced out in five games in
Speaker 1: the first round last year against Denver. He's looking at
Speaker 1: those kind of things and he's saying, don't come to
Speaker 1: me with all of this technical, this analytical stuff and
Speaker 1: all of that. You guys suck, period. That's how Charles
Speaker 1: Barkley is thinking. Now, let me enter the fray first,
Speaker 1: on the complimentary part. I don't think JJ Reddick is
Speaker 1: doing a bad job, their twenty and sixteen, their top
Speaker 1: six seed in the Western Conference.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I think that the things.
Speaker 1: That are happening with the Los Angeles Lakers are not
Speaker 1: of his doing.
Speaker 2: I think if he had better talent, he'd do better.
Speaker 1: The issue with that is one could say the same
Speaker 1: thing about Frank Vogel. One could say the same thing
Speaker 1: certainly about Darvin Ham. Darvin Ham, as he articulated just
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, came near his first year.
Speaker 1: He got him to the Western Conference Finals. After that,
Speaker 1: despite a bevy of injuries and other issues, they won
Speaker 1: the end season tournament they got to play in, went
Speaker 1: through the play in, got to the playoffs, and the
Speaker 1: only reason they got bounced out in five games and
Speaker 1: went home was because they were playing against the reigning
Speaker 1: NBA champions at the time, the Denver Nuggets, who had
Speaker 1: swept them in the Western Conference finals the year before
Speaker 1: and took them out in five this go round. So
Speaker 1: when you're looking at Darvin Ham in the job that
Speaker 1: he did, you could easily ask why is.
Speaker 2: He gone now?
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick was he has to own up to and
Speaker 1: I don't fault him at for this at all. This
Speaker 1: is all on Lebron James. This part that I'm about
Speaker 1: to mention is all on Lebron James. How the hell
Speaker 1: you gonna have a podcast about basketball and the nuances
Speaker 1: and the expertise and the intricacies of basketball with JJ Reddick,
Speaker 1: who you knew was aspiring to be a head coach
Speaker 1: and you knew you wanted your coach darphin Ham out.
Speaker 1: How you gonna do that and think that ain't gonna
Speaker 1: look cool? Yeah, come on now, I mean, Lebron James,
Speaker 1: that's the classic case of spitting somebody's face and saying
Speaker 1: it's raining. It's the classic case of somebody passing gas
Speaker 1: religiously fartening your damn face and calling it perfume. That's
Speaker 1: what Lebron James did. Let's stop that. But that's not
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick's fault. JJ Reddick was an aspiring coach. Only
Speaker 1: experience he had was coaching his son and you know,
Speaker 1: little league basketball, and he became the head coach of
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles. Like, let me stay for the record,
Speaker 1: not to throw any shade on anybody. I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you my personal belief, no inside information or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But something walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call it a mongols. When you offered
Speaker 1: Danny Hurley, I thought you wanted Danny Hurley as an
Speaker 1: organization until you offered him eleven million a year. He
Speaker 1: was a two time national champion, considered universally as arguably
Speaker 1: the greatest coach of college basketball at this particular moment
Speaker 1: of time since Mike Ruzchewsky has stepped away from the game.
Speaker 1: Danny Hurley is that dude that U can And after
Speaker 1: all that success, you offer him eleven million. When Eric Sposter,
Speaker 1: Greg Popovich, Steve Kerr, now tydlu and others were all
Speaker 1: getting paid over fourteen to fifteen million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Come on, now, you wanted Danny Hurley that badly, you
Speaker 1: come up with more money than eleven But they didn't
Speaker 1: do that. And so because they didn't do that, the
Speaker 1: belief was you really didn't want them. You just used
Speaker 1: them as cover to get the guy who you really wanted,
Speaker 1: which was JJ Reddick. But you wanted to the gloss
Speaker 1: over that because you didn't want Lebron James and the
Speaker 1: Lakers organization.
Speaker 2: Look what so bad for wanting JJ Reddick?
Speaker 1: All along after Lebron James had made it so obvious
Speaker 1: that he was looking for a new coach other than
Speaker 1: Darwin Ham. That is the belief period. There's nowhere around that.
Speaker 1: Having said that, back to JJ Reddick and Charles Barkley
Speaker 1: in terms of what JJ Reddick said about the media,
Speaker 1: and I was watching Colin Cowhert because I happened to
Speaker 1: respect the hell out of Colin Cowhert at Fox Sports.
Speaker 1: He's my former colleague, he's my colleague, my contemporary, my
Speaker 1: former colleague at ESPN, and he did an outstanding job
Speaker 1: as a radio host for years for ESPN Radio. I've
Speaker 1: always considered us at ESPN suffering a loss by losing
Speaker 1: Colin Cowhert. And I forgot the name of the guy
Speaker 1: that's with him, Jason's something I remember correctly. And he
Speaker 1: was talking about how TNT you know they messed up
Speaker 1: the game of.
Speaker 2: Basketball because they're so ultra critical.
Speaker 1: I call bs on that. When guys deserve to be celebrated,
Speaker 1: they celebrate you. When guys deserve to be criticized, they
Speaker 1: criticize you. Charles Barkley, Kenny Smith, Ernie Johnson, Shaquille O'Neill
Speaker 1: are exceptional. The Emmy Award winners. They're the A listers,
Speaker 1: they're class beside the five. They don't get personal. They
Speaker 1: just talk about your game and what you put on display,
Speaker 1: and if that's what you put on display as a product.
Speaker 2: They didn't blame the league.
Speaker 1: I'd say you could blame the league because of the
Speaker 1: rule changes that were incorporated and the fact that you
Speaker 1: took defense. You compromised defense to to a strong degree
Speaker 1: by the way you compromise opposing defenses because you wanted
Speaker 1: to be more viewer friendly, you wanted more offense. You
Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, basically bring more Europeans into the game,
Speaker 1: and by doing so, you also incorporated more three point shooting.
Speaker 2: And when people are.
Speaker 1: Doing all of that and you see points, folks jacking
Speaker 1: up thirty forty three's a game that's not the most
Speaker 1: attractive thing to see.
Speaker 2: Period. It's not a crime to point that out.
Speaker 1: Maybe they go a bit obsessive with it because they're
Speaker 1: having a good time and they're having fun.
Speaker 2: But the reality, JJ, is that sometimes I'm not.
Speaker 1: Talking about the Lakers, I'm talking about overall. Sometimes we
Speaker 1: watch the game and it sucks. And here's where JJ
Speaker 1: hurts himself. JJ knows that's true. JJ can bring up
Speaker 1: the modern day game compared to old school, and I
Speaker 1: get all of that. It was far more physical in
Speaker 1: the eighties and the nineties. The athletes weren't as great
Speaker 1: as they are today. They didn't run like Zell's the
Speaker 1: way they didn't do today. They didn't do a lot
Speaker 1: of things. I get all of that, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: take away from the fact that the game at times
Speaker 1: is less attractive than it once was. And it certainly
Speaker 1: doesn't take away from the fact that sometimes you look
Speaker 1: at dudes and you are questioning their effort, whereas before
Speaker 1: you didn't because you couldn't, because.
Speaker 2: Players would have to go out there and earn their money.
Speaker 1: Because the rules in terms of you getting your money
Speaker 1: didn't work in their favor. If they didn't put in
Speaker 1: that work, you certainly didn't get the endorsement dollars and
Speaker 1: the endorsement deals that you ultimately are able to get
Speaker 1: now if you didn't have success attached to it.
Speaker 2: So people like JJ.
Speaker 1: Who's been around long enough to see it, and along
Speaker 1: with the cat and the crew at TNT, they all
Speaker 1: know it. It's not that they're right every time, but
Speaker 1: their points are not to be summarily dismissed and so
Speaker 1: to blame the media. And this is another thing too,
Speaker 1: And this has nothing to do with JJ Reddick and
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with TNT. This is about social media.
Speaker 1: Everybody's a hater. You think we fools. You're just doing
Speaker 1: that because you're creating clickbait.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's a hater. Somebody disagreed it. Y'all had a discussion,
Speaker 2: and it's the word destroyed this person, destroyed this person.
Speaker 1: When all you're doing it is to create a headline
Speaker 1: drawer clicks. But then it goes a step further because
Speaker 1: you got former players that come out and they go like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what, they're always hating on the brothers. Well,
Speaker 1: if you're playing against a brother and I'm pointing out
Speaker 1: a brother, bust your ass. How the hell am I
Speaker 1: sitting up there hating on a brother. How am I
Speaker 1: not supporting the brother that whipped your ass?
Speaker 2: It don't make sense.
Speaker 1: But this is what people do, and so we have
Speaker 1: to pay attention to that and see that for what
Speaker 1: it is. That's the reality of the situation. We've had
Speaker 1: a height level of sensitivity. People come up with all
Speaker 1: of this kind of shit to bitch and moan and
Speaker 1: complain about instead of dealing with the real issue. Are
Speaker 1: players playing as hard? Are they as committed? Do they
Speaker 1: take care of their bodies and their conditioning in the
Speaker 1: off season?
Speaker 2: Do you earn your money? Are you committed to earning
Speaker 2: your money?
Speaker 1: Do you come back with the next season with the
Speaker 1: same game you had last season, the same level of
Speaker 1: conditioning you had last season, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Do you do anything to improve? That's why we.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't marvel at Lebron James. It's not because of his
Speaker 1: dunks's game whatever. It's because of age forty. Still from
Speaker 1: age seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty all the way to forty,
Speaker 1: Lebron James always is ready conditioning wise, he doesn't cheat
Speaker 1: the game, but JJ.
Speaker 2: There's quite a few people who do.
Speaker 1: So JJ's not totally wrong because we should heighten our
Speaker 1: level of sensitivity in terms of excoriating the game. But
Speaker 1: that don't mean we got to put blinders on and
Speaker 1: ignore what the hell is seeing. And I think that's
Speaker 1: important to say.
Speaker 2: Stephen A.
Speaker 1: Smith Show right here over the digital airways of YouTube,
Speaker 1: no doubt coming at you, as I love to do
Speaker 1: at the very least three days a week.
Speaker 2: Of course, I wanted to touch on that. Anyway, It's
Speaker 2: time to move on. Coming up.
Speaker 1: President Biden's made a few headlines when he sat down
Speaker 1: with USA Today for a wide ranging interview. I'll get
Speaker 1: into that just ahead, don't worry about that, but not
Speaker 1: before I get in to what I'm about to talk
Speaker 1: about and who I'm about to introduce. So I'm not
Speaker 1: the only person that's not afraid to point out the
Speaker 1: mistakes the Democratic Party made in the November election.
Speaker 2: There's somebody else.
Speaker 1: He's far more popular than me that when it comes
Speaker 1: to subject matters of this nature. His name is the
Speaker 1: one and only Bill Maher. He had a few things
Speaker 1: to say as well, and he's got a comedy special
Speaker 1: coming out this Friday. Don't miss it, The Stephen A.
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Speaker 1: and iHeartRadio. Up next with the one and only Bill
Speaker 1: Maher from Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO. He'll
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Speaker 1: and of course iHeartRadio. My next guest is a stand
Speaker 1: up comedian, podcaster, and host of the long running HBO political.
Speaker 2: Talk show Real Time with Bill Maher.
Speaker 1: He is also an individual that's got a new stand
Speaker 1: up comedy special coming out?
Speaker 2: Is anyone else seeing this?
Speaker 1: January tenth is the date the one and only Bill
Speaker 1: Maul my buddy?
Speaker 2: What's going on? Big time? How are you so? How's everything?
Speaker 4: I feel like the title of that show was made
Speaker 4: for you to announce it. Is anyone else say what?
Speaker 4: You say that better than I do? Well?
Speaker 1: Please please, but you do it better. You deserve all
Speaker 1: the credit in the world. But I want to know
Speaker 1: how you're feeling right now? Bill is comedy specialist coming out?
Speaker 1: Are you in a comedic mood? Are you interested in
Speaker 1: laughing and having a good time? In light of the
Speaker 1: things that have transpired over the last few months, In
Speaker 1: the last few weeks and what you've had to deal
Speaker 1: with personally in terms of speaking your piece, particularly to
Speaker 1: the left, how do you feel about that absolutely.
Speaker 4: In fact, the very first thing I say in this
Speaker 4: special is we're here to laugh. You know, this show business. Okay,
Speaker 4: if you're still brooting about the election, you're in the
Speaker 4: wrong building. I'm here just to make you laugh. And
Speaker 4: I'm not going to pre hate anything that hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 4: And also, look around, are you really suffering that much? Now? Trump?
Speaker 4: Could he blow up the world on the second day. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he could, But until he does, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: chase every crazy thing he does. And I'm not going
Speaker 4: to get upset about things that happened happened yet. And
Speaker 4: when I look around America is you know, it's a
Speaker 4: place with a lot of problems, but also compared to
Speaker 4: the rest of the world, it's doing better than most places.
Speaker 4: And you know, a lot of people are just living
Speaker 4: their best lives.
Speaker 1: Are you this way period or did it take you
Speaker 1: a little while to get to this point after the election?
Speaker 4: No, I mean I was ready for Trump to win.
Speaker 4: I thought that she would win. I thought that America
Speaker 4: always basically moves forward and not backward. But I was wrong.
Speaker 4: I was certainly not surprised because I did not think
Speaker 4: she was a great candidate, but look this kind of
Speaker 4: It's not like this country does not need some sort
Speaker 4: of clean sweeping. Now I don't know what that's going
Speaker 4: to be. I've said this before, this country needs a klonic. Uh.
Speaker 4: I would not have chosen Donald Trump to be the
Speaker 4: doctor to administer that colonic. But I'm curious to see,
Speaker 4: for example, what Elon Musk is going to do. I'm
Speaker 4: going to I'm curious to see how influential he's going
Speaker 4: to be. Uh. He is tasked with reinventing the government. Basically,
Speaker 4: he said some things which I think are great, and
Speaker 4: I'm on the page with the first thing he said
Speaker 4: was we're going to ask everybody in the government who
Speaker 4: has been staying home and that's been a lot of
Speaker 4: people since the pandemic to come back to work and
Speaker 4: we and we expect about twenty percent of the workforce
Speaker 4: to then just quit. And we welcome that. And I thought, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's probably okay, because if twenty percent of the government
Speaker 4: workforce quit, would we notice the difference. I'm guessing we
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't. He also said he was going to go
Speaker 4: after the F thirty five. Okay, perfect, that's exactly the
Speaker 4: kind of thing we should do. This is a fighter
Speaker 4: jet that they've been funding to the tune of like
Speaker 4: a trillion dollars, And he said, first of all, it's obsolete.
Speaker 4: We don't use fighter jets anymore. We won't in the
Speaker 4: very near future. They're just going to get pilots killed.
Speaker 4: And we have drones now, So why why are we
Speaker 4: spending a trillion dollars on something we don't need? So
Speaker 4: if that's what's going to go on in the government,
Speaker 4: I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about somebody that would sit back
Speaker 1: and say, okay, Elon musk, I believe South African obviously
Speaker 1: owns Tesla, owns x formally known as Twitter. One man
Speaker 1: having entirely too much power, and he has just the
Speaker 1: ear of the president, if not more. Once Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is inaugurated on January twenty first, is this guy really
Speaker 1: going to look out for America's best interest or is
Speaker 1: he going to look out for his own best interests?
Speaker 1: How does Bill Maher answer that question in light of
Speaker 1: all that you've seen, because you've been one of the
Speaker 1: ADVID individuals speaking out on behalf of us, because you've
Speaker 1: always been incredibly impressed by his brilliance, his genius, He's
Speaker 1: been on your show at least once that I can recall,
Speaker 1: and obviously you felt the way that you felt about him.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts about him?
Speaker 4: Well, I thought, first of all, it's kind of ironic.
Speaker 4: You know that the world's richest man and a former
Speaker 4: ex president who is a billionaire won the election and
Speaker 4: really stuck into the elitist suh, that's right. But you know, look,
Speaker 4: I've criticized Elin where I think he was wrong or
Speaker 4: he wasn't being honest. I mean Twitter. Look, when he
Speaker 4: took over Twitter, it was way too left. I mean
Speaker 4: that's why I stopped going on it, because you know,
Speaker 4: as I used to say anything I want to say
Speaker 4: on Twitter, I can't say on Twitter because you'd be
Speaker 4: immediately excoriated because it was politically incorrect. And it used
Speaker 4: to be when it started, a fun place where you
Speaker 4: could just say funny things, and then it got to
Speaker 4: be a place where the woke took over and everything
Speaker 4: was just a minefield. And why put it out there
Speaker 4: just to get yourself into trouble? So I stopped going there,
Speaker 4: and Elon said, well, when I take over, I'm going
Speaker 4: to make it an even playing field. I'm going to
Speaker 4: make it a place where the left and the right
Speaker 4: can both be. But he didn't. He just completely reversed
Speaker 4: it and now it's just a place for the right.
Speaker 4: So he didn't follow up on that, and I keep
Speaker 4: saying that and he you know, and he also like
Speaker 4: applauds people on Twitter who should not be applauded, I
Speaker 4: mean really crazy, kind of far right people, so he
Speaker 4: you know, he also says things that are just not
Speaker 4: true very often. He doesn't seem to care about researching
Speaker 4: things very often. But I mean, good God, Tesla, Starlink, Neurolink, SpaceX.
Speaker 4: I mean, one man has created like three or four
Speaker 4: of the most important developments in technology in the last
Speaker 4: twenty years. I mean, you got to give the guy
Speaker 4: a little credit for that. And also I will say
Speaker 4: this about him, I don't think he cares about money now.
Speaker 4: He has way too much of it. There has to
Speaker 4: be a certain point, and I am certainly no socialist,
Speaker 4: but there has to be a certain point where we
Speaker 4: just decide, as we did, by the way one hundred
Speaker 4: years ago when it was John D. Rockefeller. John D.
Speaker 4: Rockefeller had I think at one point two was worth
Speaker 4: two percent of the gross national product of the country,
Speaker 4: and they did something about it. They made laws about
Speaker 4: monopolies and so forth. They broke up Standard Oil. I
Speaker 4: think Elon is approaching that money. There's certain there's certain
Speaker 4: number that I think we just have to say to somebody, Okay,
Speaker 4: you won, you won the money game, But like, how
Speaker 4: much is too much? Can it? Can one person have
Speaker 4: a trillion dollars? It just seems like that's taking it
Speaker 4: a little too far. Again, I don't think he's I
Speaker 4: don't think he cares about money. That's not what motivates him.
Speaker 4: And I would be curious to see what he's going
Speaker 4: to do, because again America, it's not like it's not
Speaker 4: completely bloated. It is and it's gotten out of hand,
Speaker 4: and somebody needs to go in there and do what
Speaker 4: he proposes to do. But we'll see in in execution,
Speaker 4: everything is in the details.
Speaker 1: I recently sat down with a guy by the name
Speaker 1: of Dave Rubin.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you are aware of who he is. He
Speaker 2: brags about.
Speaker 1: That's where he bragged about going to the Lakers game
Speaker 1: with you. I told him you and I went to
Speaker 1: the Lakers game together as well recently, and we just
Speaker 1: he and I just finished talking and one of the
Speaker 1: things that I called him, I said, listen, he's not
Speaker 1: a lieutenant or general or whatever, but let's say he is.
Speaker 1: Meaning Bill Maher considered me a soldier because I stand
Speaker 1: directly behind him in support of all the things that
Speaker 1: he has said, particularly over the last several years about
Speaker 1: the left and how the left pretty.
Speaker 2: Much lost its way.
Speaker 1: Getting personal with you for a second, how difficult, if
Speaker 1: difficult at all, has it been for you to deal
Speaker 1: with some of the things that have been thrown in
Speaker 1: your direction just because you were on your show telling
Speaker 1: the truth about what the left did wrong and how
Speaker 1: it got in its own way and what it needed
Speaker 1: to do to fix the party.
Speaker 4: Your thoughts, you know, you know, stephen A. You can't
Speaker 4: have everything. That's what you come to if you live
Speaker 4: long enough. Would I like to have everybody on my side?
Speaker 4: Would I like to have everybody be my fan? Of course?
Speaker 4: Was it not great when some super woke people left
Speaker 4: because I wasn't on their page? Yeah? I wish everybody
Speaker 4: was still my fan, But you can't have that. Do
Speaker 4: I think I deserve a bunch of Emmys that I
Speaker 4: would never get because this town is woker than I am. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I do. I don't think we have the same criteria
Speaker 4: about what constitutes excellence. It's okay, you can't have everything.
Speaker 4: I would take a million times if you offered it
Speaker 4: to me Against those things, the joy of being able
Speaker 4: to speak my mind as I see it, and the
Speaker 4: love that that gets me from people from all stripes
Speaker 4: who appreciate that. The things that people say to me
Speaker 4: I've been at with every type of celebrity, they don't
Speaker 4: say the things they say to me to other celebrities.
Speaker 4: That means more to me than anything with things that
Speaker 4: people say to me, and how much it means to
Speaker 4: them that they feel like there's somebody out there who
Speaker 4: is never pulling a punch and who will just call
Speaker 4: out anybody wherever they are in the political spectrum if
Speaker 4: he thinks they're saying something goofy. That really means the
Speaker 4: world to me. So I have that, and that's plenty.
Speaker 1: Absolutely you deserve it, make no mistake about it. I
Speaker 1: wanted to know in light of what you just articulated
Speaker 1: your thoughts about Mark Zuckerberg coming out.
Speaker 2: Recently, I think it was yesterday or so.
Speaker 1: And he was talking about what role Meta is going
Speaker 1: to play and now they're no longer going to fact check,
Speaker 1: and they're not going to be as stridently in favor
Speaker 1: of the left or whatever the case may be. I
Speaker 1: think that he's just trying to curry favor with Donald
Speaker 1: Trump or whatever.
Speaker 2: I wanted to.
Speaker 1: Know what you made of that, and what do you
Speaker 1: think I think is going to be the fallout from that,
Speaker 1: knowing what you know about the political stratosphere and specifically
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: I'm a free speech guy, you know, I believe not
Speaker 4: an absolute free speech. That's not even in the Constitution.
Speaker 4: And of course we have the example of you know,
Speaker 4: yelling fire in a crowded theater and so forth. There
Speaker 4: are things that you can't do. But I think he's
Speaker 4: basically right. We've gone way too far toward fact whose facts?
Speaker 4: I mean. COVID was a perfect example of this, and
Speaker 4: I think that's something that really opened a lot of
Speaker 4: people's eyes to what's going on with censorship in this country.
Speaker 4: We were not allowed to really discuss this, and it
Speaker 4: was a new phenomenon, this new pathogen we had. It
Speaker 4: should have been discussed. We're finding out now as each
Speaker 4: week rolls by, more and more it's pretty obvious that
Speaker 4: COVID the origin of it was the lab. I think
Speaker 4: in fifty years when people look back, they'll say, wait
Speaker 4: a second, there was a lab in Wuhan where the
Speaker 4: disease started that was studying this disease and using gain
Speaker 4: of function research on it, and they were debating whether
Speaker 4: this was the cause of it. Now it could have
Speaker 4: been the wet markets. Absolutely, we don't know for sure.
Speaker 4: But the fact that we weren't even allowed to discuss
Speaker 4: that it was coming from a lab, which again it
Speaker 4: probably was. Now we know that. You tell you all
Speaker 4: you need to know the fact that Justin Trudeau just
Speaker 4: stepped down in Canada. I mean, this guy had a
Speaker 4: very high approval rating five years ago and he left
Speaker 4: really very unpopular because Canada became that kind of place
Speaker 4: where you really did not have the kind of free
Speaker 4: speech we do and many other countries in Europe. Now
Speaker 4: this is part of what Mark Zuckerberd was talking about.
Speaker 4: We don't want to become like these countries in Europe
Speaker 4: where they have rules about what you can say that's
Speaker 4: going to be censored simply because it's hurting somebody's feelings.
Speaker 4: You know, you can't say something about Islam because it's Islamophobia.
Speaker 4: But what if it's true. You know, we just had
Speaker 4: a terrible incident in New Orleans that was a jihadist attack.
Speaker 4: We want to be able to speak about that plainly
Speaker 4: and honestly without worrying somebody's going to say, don't say
Speaker 4: that because it's not all Muslims. Well, no one's saying
Speaker 4: it's all Muslims. We're saying we need to discuss about
Speaker 4: this honestly and openly and patently. And you can't do
Speaker 4: that if somebody's looking over your shoulder and saying, well,
Speaker 4: this is going to hurt somebody's feelings. Okay, feelings are
Speaker 4: not as important as the First Amendment, fair.
Speaker 1: Enough, and it's one of the things that people allude
Speaker 1: to and complain about, as you have about the left
Speaker 1: because of woke culture. With that being said, one would
Speaker 1: ask Bill Maher in this day and age, why would
Speaker 1: you still call yourself a liberal or a Democrat as
Speaker 1: opposed to an independent, considering how you're thinking and how
Speaker 1: polar opposite that appears to be to what's transpired with
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. Because I'm reading this article from the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, and essentially the paraphrase not exact, not
Speaker 1: your exact words, but you were talking about, you know what,
Speaker 1: you still consider yourself. But that party is not the
Speaker 1: party that I've been looking at in recent memory.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I've always been an independent. I mean I
Speaker 4: never threw in with a Democrat because I always knew
Speaker 4: they'd disappoint me at some point.
Speaker 2: But I've Georgia Party. I've Georgia Party.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But old school liberal, yes, I mean that's I
Speaker 4: think what I always was and always will be. As
Speaker 4: they say in the special, the people who were saying, oh,
Speaker 4: you're a Republican. Now, No, I'm not a Republican and
Speaker 4: I never will be a Republican for all the reasons
Speaker 4: I haven't been. They're too religious, they're fiscal hypocrites who
Speaker 4: think it's awful when America spends money it doesn't have
Speaker 4: except when they're in office, and then it's always perfectly okay.
Speaker 4: They're in denial about racism, they're in denial about the environment.
Speaker 4: They're always blaming the underprivilege when they should be blaming
Speaker 4: the overprivileged. And then they added to that shitty mixtape
Speaker 4: they don't believe in democracy anymore. And they threw their
Speaker 4: lot in with the sociopath named Donald Trump, who thinks
Speaker 4: that elections only count when they win, so they have
Speaker 4: a sizable lead in being the more threatening party I
Speaker 4: think to this country. But that doesn't mean I'm going
Speaker 4: to hold my tongue about what I think is wrong
Speaker 4: about the left, and I don't. And there's a lot
Speaker 4: and old school liberal I could give you so many examples.
Speaker 4: It's a very big part of the show where I'm
Speaker 4: talking about the fact that people somehow think that wokeness
Speaker 4: is an extension of liberalism, when very often it's the
Speaker 4: opposite of liberalism. I mean, just like the Israel situation,
Speaker 4: the liberal position has always been a two state solution.
Speaker 4: I still think that's the solution. Well that's not the
Speaker 4: position of the woke. They want from the river to
Speaker 4: the sea. So you can have that position, but don't
Speaker 4: tell me that's the liberal position. The river to the
Speaker 4: sea does not mean a two state solution. It means
Speaker 4: you want all of it for the Palestinians. That's fine,
Speaker 4: that's your position, it's not the liberal position. I haven't
Speaker 4: changed you have.
Speaker 1: Is anyone else seeing this? Your stand up comedy special
Speaker 1: scheduled for January Day Debuta January tenth on HBO. As
Speaker 1: you were putting this together, formulating your thoughts, Bill Maher,
Speaker 1: if you see, I'm assuming you had to worry about
Speaker 1: because I don't think you worried about anybody. But if
Speaker 1: you had to worry about anybody in today world where
Speaker 1: you gotta worry about anything that you say or whatever,
Speaker 1: who are you more worried about the right or the
Speaker 1: left when it came to making sure that you said
Speaker 1: what you needed to say. You are and authentic, as
Speaker 1: honest as you possibly could be, but you didn't cross
Speaker 1: the line. Who would you find something more worried about
Speaker 1: As a comedian in his day and age, Well.
Speaker 4: First of all, my job is to cross the line.
Speaker 4: That's what a stand up comedian's job. Not all stand up,
Speaker 4: not no comedy. Some comedy's just silly, but not mine.
Speaker 4: So you know, how do you know where the line
Speaker 4: is until people like me cross it to a degree.
Speaker 4: I'm never upset when people in the audience recoil. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't want to make the whole show recoiling. You
Speaker 4: want to be popular. But there's a couple of times
Speaker 4: in the show where people just are like, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, we were just talking about the Israel situation,
Speaker 4: there's a line in there where I say, you know,
Speaker 4: really marching for hamas you're marching four terrorist groups, it's
Speaker 4: like rooting for the planes on nine to eleven. Well,
Speaker 4: that's a line that gives people pause. They're like, whoa,
Speaker 4: did you really go there? And that happens a number
Speaker 4: of times in the show. It should That's what a
Speaker 4: comedian should do, at least a comedian like me. That's
Speaker 4: what my job is. So do I worry about the
Speaker 4: people who get so upset about that that they're not
Speaker 4: going to watch. They're not watching anyway. They left the
Speaker 4: building a while ago with me. They know I'm not safe.
Speaker 4: And if you want safe, or you want someone who's
Speaker 4: just going to tell you what you already believe and
Speaker 4: just be the echo chamber for you, I'm not your
Speaker 4: guy and never have been. So do I worry about
Speaker 4: those people?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 4: Really. The other people I could worry about would be
Speaker 4: Donald Trump. I mean, he does flirt with authoritarianism, there
Speaker 4: is no doubt about it. Do I think he's going
Speaker 4: to start arresting comedians? I really don't. But you know,
Speaker 4: he's talking about invading Greenland and annexing Canada. You know,
Speaker 4: he says a lot of He says a lot of
Speaker 4: stuff Steven Day. He really does. I don't think it's
Speaker 4: going to happen. But let me put it this way,
Speaker 4: under George Bush or anybody else, it never even entered
Speaker 4: my mind with trying. Anything's possible, Anything is possible.
Speaker 1: My very last question to you would be this, Outside
Speaker 1: of making people laugh, which I know you want to do,
Speaker 1: this is a comedy special, after all, is anyone is
Speaker 1: anyone else seeing this? Is there something else you're hoping
Speaker 1: to accomplish with this comedy special?
Speaker 2: And if so, what is that? Exactly?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I think there's a theme to it,
Speaker 4: and that is that we have to talk to each other,
Speaker 4: that we can't just cut each other off. It's one
Speaker 4: thing I really don't like about the left these days,
Speaker 4: very exclusionary. If you're not exactly on the page with them,
Speaker 4: if you don't believe in the one true opinion that
Speaker 4: they have, then they don't even want to talk to you.
Speaker 4: We saw this after the election where a number of
Speaker 4: people were advising family members to cut off people in
Speaker 4: your own family over the holidays. We're talking about Thanksgiving
Speaker 4: and Christmas because they voted for the wrong guy in
Speaker 4: the election, you're not going to talk to people in
Speaker 4: your family? Yeah, no, no, no, that's not good. I'm
Speaker 4: not down with that. So I think if there's any
Speaker 4: message I want people to have its you're going to
Speaker 4: have to talk to people. Because half the country is
Speaker 4: not self deporting. They're still going to be here, and
Speaker 4: just because they voted for Donald Trump, which I would
Speaker 4: never do, doesn't mean they're bad people. I don't want
Speaker 4: to hate half the country, and I don't hate half
Speaker 4: the country the more.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I love the relationship that we've called that. I love
Speaker 1: my appearances on Club Random. I've had an absolute blast.
Speaker 1: It's the only time of my life I've had a
Speaker 1: contact high in front of the camera. It's all because
Speaker 1: of you. Snoop Dogg is very, very proud of me
Speaker 1: for that. I wish you nothing but the best. Can't
Speaker 1: wait to see this comedy special coming out January tenth.
Speaker 1: Is anyone else seeing this?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I will be in front of my tube watching. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see it. Happy for you, proud of you,
Speaker 1: and looking forward to talking to you down the line.
Speaker 1: My brother, you take it easy, okay.
Speaker 4: Thank you? Man? I love you, and I hope I
Speaker 4: get to see you soon.
Speaker 2: You will all the best to you. Take care.
Speaker 1: Thanks again to the one and only Bill Maher always
Speaker 1: always great talking to him. I love taping that interview
Speaker 1: with him just a few hours ago. Obviously, coming up,
Speaker 1: President Joe Biden believes he would have beat Donald Trump
Speaker 1: had he stayed in the president your race. Plus Biden
Speaker 1: gave a surprise answer when asked if he had the.
Speaker 2: Stamina for another four years. I'll get into all of
Speaker 2: that and then some right here on the Steven A.
Speaker 2: Smith Show. Don't go away.
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Speaker 1: Smith Show right here with the digital airways with YouTube
Speaker 1: and of course iHeart Radio's time to get into some
Speaker 1: politics because I got a few.
Speaker 2: Things to talk about.
Speaker 1: Actually I don't, it's just one really particular thing. With
Speaker 1: less than two weeks remaining in his presidency, mister Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: President Joe Biden sat down for a wide ranging interview
Speaker 1: with the publication USA Today. Biden made several headlines during
Speaker 1: the conversation, but I want to focus on a few
Speaker 1: things that stood out.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The president says he still believes he could have defeated
Speaker 1: President of ELEC. Donald Trump in the twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: election based on the poll numbers he saw at the time. However,
Speaker 1: Biden expressed no such confidence when asked whether he had
Speaker 1: had the stamina to serve another four years in office.
Speaker 1: It's presumptuous, he said, to say that I would have
Speaker 1: beaten Trump. But I think yes. When Trump was running
Speaker 1: again for reelection, I really thought I had the best
Speaker 1: chance of beating him. But I also wasn't looking to
Speaker 1: be president when I was eighty five years old, eighty
Speaker 1: six years old, and so I did talk about passing
Speaker 1: the baton. But I don't know if I could have
Speaker 1: served another four years. Who the hell knows end quote.
Speaker 1: First of all, that quote is verification on several levels.
Speaker 1: Its validation on several levels. Why President Biden should have
Speaker 1: bowed his ass out of the race.
Speaker 2: You see, you can't let him off the hook here.
Speaker 2: So let me get this straight.
Speaker 1: You knew that you probably couldn't go another four years,
Speaker 1: but you ran for election.
Speaker 2: You didn't bow out.
Speaker 1: You didn't do what you had promised to do, was
Speaker 1: to be a transitional president and passed up a dawn
Speaker 1: to a younger generation.
Speaker 2: You didn't do that.
Speaker 1: Then you sat up there and you avoided primaries, and
Speaker 1: then you went and showed up on June twenty seventh
Speaker 1: and looked lost. As Anthony Scaramucci on News Nation, political
Speaker 1: analyst former Trump guy said this about Joe Biden. At
Speaker 1: the time, he looked like a patient in a nursing
Speaker 1: home waiting for his apple sauce. But you're saying that
Speaker 1: before that you knew that you probably couldn't give us
Speaker 1: four more years, but you ran anyway. That is pathetic,
Speaker 1: That is inexcusable. But by the way, let me take
Speaker 1: it a step further, it's also delusional that you were
Speaker 1: to beat Trump. Let's state that for the obvious, because
Speaker 1: clearly the American people were spoken, and if they spoke
Speaker 1: against Kamala Harris, the likelihood is that they would have
Speaker 1: spoken against you because of the things you yourself just mentioned.
Speaker 1: This is the kind of stuff that's going to hurt
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party for years to come, because you see,
Speaker 1: if he felt that way and he had those reservations
Speaker 1: even though he believed he could beat Trump in a
Speaker 1: runoff of the election. The bottom line is the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party knew and they tried to hide them. You don't
Speaker 1: have credibility any longer. Now that's not to say the
Speaker 1: Republicans are rife with credibility themselves. I mean I'm listening
Speaker 1: to the pomping circumstance that Trump is throwing out there Greenland.
Speaker 2: I want that.
Speaker 1: I want that not a bad thing and not a
Speaker 1: bad thing to bloviate about because you're competing with China
Speaker 1: and Russia. And I said, we talked about commerce there,
Speaker 1: we're talking about national.
Speaker 2: Security issues there. I get that part.
Speaker 1: Okay, we want to go call it the Gulf of
Speaker 1: America instead of goulf of Mexico.
Speaker 2: Really, really, what we're doing, that's what we're doing. Bluster.
Speaker 1: How much is that going to amount to? What does
Speaker 1: that really really mean? So we're gonna see more of it,
Speaker 1: and Trump's gonna be Trump. But when I saw that
Speaker 1: quote from Biden, I said, thank god he's leaving. Thank God,
Speaker 1: I've had enough. Now I'm not gonna pardon Hunter, and
Speaker 1: I don't mind you. If it was my son, I
Speaker 1: had to pardon them. I'm not gonna pardon. We made
Speaker 1: the decisions, not gonna happen. Then you went against you.
Speaker 2: It happened. It happened.
Speaker 1: You're about the rule of lawd We're about the rule
Speaker 1: of law. Yeah, really really, but then you're not. I'm
Speaker 1: so sick of all of this. I don't even wanna
Speaker 1: talk about it no more. Let's go to the tweets.
Speaker 1: Let just go to the tweets. I'm done with this.
Speaker 2: I'm done. Thank god he's leaving. Thank god he's leaving.
Speaker 1: That Callos Boozer and Ryan Hollins since my producers aren't
Speaker 1: wise enough to blow some stuff up because they don't
Speaker 1: see that. I don't wear glasses like they do. Okay,
Speaker 1: I actually cannot see that, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Ryan Hollins really popped out with the Carlos.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: I don't want my producers in my heir talking about
Speaker 1: you gonna said to me, No, you should have had
Speaker 1: it blown up. I want to see it now and
Speaker 1: keep this in the show. So because I want the
Speaker 1: audience do I'm getting on my producers. You go and
Speaker 1: try to make fools of me because they know I
Speaker 1: can't see the damn thing. Okay, I can't see that either,
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, it's clearly something about the hairline. It's Ryan Hollins,
Speaker 1: it's Carlos Boozer. All I gotta say is this, Devin,
Speaker 1: I'm jealous. I wish my hairline was like that.
Speaker 2: I really do. That would be nice.
Speaker 1: I wish I wish my hairline was like that, even
Speaker 1: like even Ryan's, which is a little kind of crooked there,
Speaker 1: I still wish it was that way.
Speaker 2: Carlos.
Speaker 1: I don't want, I don't ever want my hair shining
Speaker 1: like that. You know what I'm saying. It looked like
Speaker 1: you threw some damn blue paint on your head at
Speaker 1: the time. That's call those Boozer when he was younger.
Speaker 1: That's not him right now. But nevertheless, you know Ryan's
Speaker 1: attaining too.
Speaker 2: But I get it.
Speaker 1: But I gotta admit I'm jealous of the hairline. I
Speaker 1: wish my hairline was about to three inches forward. That
Speaker 1: would be nice. I ain't gonna from That's one tweet.
Speaker 1: Give me the next one, please at GTA six plus, right,
Speaker 1: Steven Nate Smith when you play GTA six when it releases.
Speaker 3: Hmm.
Speaker 2: I didn't think about it, but I might. Why not?
Speaker 2: I need to do that. I mean, even they'll have
Speaker 2: to teach me because I never did it before.
Speaker 1: I don't know whether my nephew, his son, or one
Speaker 1: of my producers who pay attention to this kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I tried.
Speaker 2: I'm all about it. I'm all about it.
Speaker 1: Next week, what we got, which Batman would win in
Speaker 1: a fight, Ben Affleck or Michael Keaton. Well, I think
Speaker 1: in a fight it would be Ben Affleck. That's a
Speaker 1: big boy. Ben Affleck ain't no small dude. Plus he's
Speaker 1: from Boston. But I ain't gonna sleep on Michael Keton.
Speaker 1: I think Michael Keaton was more suave. Ben Affleck is
Speaker 1: a big boy. I'm definitely gonna do that. I like
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck. I just didn't like him in the Batman movies.
Speaker 1: I loved him in The Accountant, loved him into it.
Speaker 1: In The Accountant he was great.
Speaker 4: He was great.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't like the Batman movies. I didn't like
Speaker 1: GG with him and j Love. But I like most
Speaker 1: of the the stuff that Ben afflete I liked him
Speaker 1: in the town. I thought he was great in the town. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like Ben Affleck in a lot of things, just
Speaker 1: not Batman and.
Speaker 2: GG or or whatever. It was. All right, that's it
Speaker 2: for this addition to the Steven A. Smiths Show. I
Speaker 2: got to get on out of here.
Speaker 1: Thanks again to Tory Cooper for joining me for the
Speaker 1: show at the top of the show today.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and thank the great Bill Maher.
Speaker 1: He is phenomenal and when it comes to politics, it's
Speaker 1: must see TV Real Time with Bill Maher, especially New Rules.
Speaker 1: New Rules is my favorite segment in all of television.
Speaker 1: My favorite segment in all of television. This is the
Speaker 1: only thing I ever looked at on television and literally said,
Speaker 1: I'd like to copy you know im, because I'm not
Speaker 1: a plageriss but I love New Rules on Real Time
Speaker 1: with Bill Maher on HBO.
Speaker 2: Love it. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I think he's great, and I think his comedy special
Speaker 1: is gonna be great as well. So make sure y'all
Speaker 1: don't miss it until next time. This is Stephen a
Speaker 1: signing off, Peace of love everybody, God bless