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Speaker 1: For uh from Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana.

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Speaker 1: This is Col's Week in Review with Ryan cow Cala.

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Speaker 2: Here's Cal.

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Speaker 3: All right, everybody, welcome to another special edition of Cal's

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Speaker 3: Week in Review. This where you know, we interview folks

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Speaker 3: about interesting things. And one of the more interesting things

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Speaker 3: I've done here in the last few weeks, which have been.

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Speaker 2: Packed full of.

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Speaker 3: Travels and talking with folks, has been joining Tate Morgan,

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Speaker 3: who's our guest today, for an event called the Gambler

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Speaker 3: five hundred. This is something I've been aware of loosely

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Speaker 3: for like a decade. I feel, because there was a

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Speaker 3: Gambler event in Idaho that a few friends of mine

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Speaker 3: were involved in. I somehow followed them on Instagram and

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Speaker 3: wasn't all that into it, to be honest, And then

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Speaker 3: I saw they were picking up a lot of trash,

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Speaker 3: and I wasn't into it for a couple of reasons.

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Speaker 3: One like the it was just kind of like off

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Speaker 3: roady community that spends too much money on their vehicles,

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Speaker 3: which would have been the friends that showed me the

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Speaker 3: Gambler stuff. That's the group they represent. They spent a

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Speaker 3: lot of money on vehicles and not always practical means,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, man, that's not necessarily my crowd,

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Speaker 3: but I love the trash pickup side of things. And

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Speaker 3: it was a little skeptical, but i've as I followed them,

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Speaker 3: it was more endearing. And while we were out fighting

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Speaker 3: the good fight, the best fight for public lands, I

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Speaker 3: finally decided I needed to reach out to this guy

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Speaker 3: and see what the heck it is they're up to,

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Speaker 3: because I felt it was crucial to show, you know,

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Speaker 3: folks like myself.

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Speaker 2: Who are a little.

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Speaker 3: Biased towards the motorized crowd, that there's this huge user

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Speaker 3: group of public lands out there that are doing really

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Speaker 3: good things and they're very solid stewards of these places

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Speaker 3: that we all get to go out and enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Bring that.

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Speaker 3: The big crews together to fight for public lands under

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Speaker 3: one big tent, as they kind of say. So that's

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Speaker 3: when I reached out to Tate and he said, come

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Speaker 3: on down. We got this event going on in Oregon.

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Speaker 3: Actually didn't even say that. He said, oh, my daughter

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Speaker 3: and I are coming into town. We should get together

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Speaker 3: and talk about it. And I said, we don't have

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Speaker 3: time for that. What else you got? And so yeah,

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Speaker 3: we met up in Madras, Oregon and decided to cover

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Speaker 3: the Gambler five hundred, which I would say is part

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Speaker 3: community get together party and trash pick up and blew

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Speaker 3: me away and so so many ways.

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Speaker 2: So Tate, thanks for coming down Calan. It's awesome to

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Speaker 2: be here, and funny to hear you to say that

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Speaker 2: you know loosely followed us over the past decade, because

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Speaker 2: I've definitely been following you guys and paying attention to

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Speaker 2: what meat eaters doing. And I really love that you're

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Speaker 2: using this platform to fight for public lands, and I

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Speaker 2: just think it shows that all the different user groups

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Speaker 2: need to spend more time, you know, collaborating together and

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Speaker 2: make sure that public lands are around to then have

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Speaker 2: the discussion of what we get to do on them

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Speaker 2: in certain areas. And so I'm a hunter as well hiker,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, so you know, off roading isn't

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Speaker 2: my only way that I utilized public lands, and so

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Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree with you, and I have

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Speaker 2: my own trepidays about some of the OHV activities that

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Speaker 2: are out there too, So but thanks for having me here.

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Speaker 2: This is awesome.

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Speaker 3: Oh good man, Yeah, I think it is. It's really interesting, right,

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Speaker 3: like what I've seen personally over the years when issues

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Speaker 3: come up, right is we have to get the mountain

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Speaker 3: bikers to talk about this, and the horseback riders and

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Speaker 3: the skiers or backcountry skiers, fly fishermen, hunters, four wheelers,

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Speaker 3: single trackers, et cetera, all these individual groups. But the

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Speaker 3: reality is is very seldom, especially in the places that

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Speaker 3: I've grown up, is a dirt biker just a dirt biker. Right,

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Speaker 3: They're always there's always other pursuits throughout the season that

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Speaker 3: they're at least spending some time on, right.

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Speaker 2: For sure. I mean a lot a lot of times

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Speaker 2: these activities are just an excuse to be out on

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Speaker 2: for excuses to get out there. So if it's if

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Speaker 2: an excuse to get out there and do it. You know,

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Speaker 2: the activity itself is sometimes just a byproduct. In my opinion,

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Speaker 3: I think in the middle of this big ven diagram

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Speaker 3: we just want to be out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. I'm actually pretty exclusive Washington. I live

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Speaker 2: in Oregon and kind of the Portland vicinity, in a

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Speaker 2: rural part of the Portland metro area, but Washington is,

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Speaker 2: you know, probably only fifteen miles away. I refuse to

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Speaker 2: do any any off roading or any hiking up there

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Speaker 2: because I don't hunt Washington. But to be honest, I'm

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Speaker 2: always out doing these other things, but also kind of looking,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know what's over that ridge? You know,

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Speaker 2: do I think you know this area would hold any deer,

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Speaker 2: elk or anything. So I'm always Hunting's always in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, That's how I found out I couldn't be good

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Speaker 3: dirt biker because I couldn't focus on not hitting stuff

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Speaker 2: You and me both we just did a Zion. We

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Speaker 2: did this the inners hike and your gun on Zion

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Speaker 2: and you the majority of the hike is through this

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Speaker 2: up and through this beautiful cavern that you're kind of traversing,

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Speaker 2: or Cavernet Canyon that you're you're hiking through. So we

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Speaker 2: had the same thought.

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Speaker 3: So what you're wearing your Sons of Smokey Wilderness Defense

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Speaker 3: shirt and we were talking, Gambler five hundred, What what

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Speaker 3: what's sons of Smoky and what's Gambler five hundred?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think I think you've got to go back

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Speaker 2: to the beginning. What you know, Gambler five hundred. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's it started as I was a young father. We'd

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Speaker 2: looking for something fun to do. We didn't have a

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Speaker 2: really cared about the rules that much. And it was

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Speaker 2: a race, you know. We'd we'd start in the Portland

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Speaker 2: and I felt like, that's that's probably enough, you know,

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Speaker 2: I was thinking. And then we had a buddy getting

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Speaker 2: their site. Well, this video of our Shenanigans went mega viral,

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Speaker 2: fifty million views over the internet, over YouTube and Facebook,

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Speaker 2: and so tens of thousands of people were saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: you don't, man like this is We're not built for

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Speaker 2: I was, you know, bacious at first about opening up

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Speaker 2: have you know, mayhem and people would die, people wouldn't

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Speaker 2: that's that's changed the metric for competition, to see how

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Speaker 2: so it's something I'd always done, you know, when I'm

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Speaker 3: You open it up to the public, Like how what

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Speaker 3: was that process? Because this was still like your core

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Speaker 2: I kept it the same format I had before, which

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Speaker 2: I no, I don't have a background in event promotion

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Speaker 2: got the right kind of people. People are willing to

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Speaker 2: go out and pick up a little trash along the way,

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Speaker 2: while they're having fun. And we talk about that later.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of the whole basis. Four Sums of Smoky

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Speaker 2: and it's just one little piece in this public land,

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Speaker 2: you know, issue that we've got going on right now.

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Speaker 3: Right because there's they're like you, we want the ethos

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Speaker 3: to last all year long. Yeah, but there are kind

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Speaker 3: of organized events throughout the year, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, organized is a loose term. I mean you went

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Speaker 2: to our big, our big event, the Gambler five hundred

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Speaker 2: little money you can spend. You know, we don't have caps,

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Speaker 2: we don't have rules. You can show up in your

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Speaker 2: And so we don't have a lot of egos and

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Speaker 2: a lot of the know, all that big macho you

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Speaker 3: So yeah, the okay, boy, there's so much to talk about.

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Speaker 3: And how many like because that China Hat Road was

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, so the way that we we like rather if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get credit it to your account and everything,

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Speaker 2: We're not into structure. We're not into you know. This

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Speaker 2: Three to foreigner and one of yours furner and fifty

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Speaker 2: have the money to do that. But you have a

432
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,159
Speaker 2: bunch of wheeling, you know, able bodied dudes with trucks

433
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 2: and trailers who I kind of think that's fun, you know,

434
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 2: to go out there and you know, rig that car

435
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 2: up on a trailer and take it down. Look, we

436
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 2: have some good partners in the area, like the BNR

437
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 2: Wrecking that that takes that takes the cars for us

438
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 2: for free. But then on top of that is then

439
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 2: once areas get trashed, the community starts treating that area

440
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 2: like a garbage dump. And so the pile of three

441
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: hundred tires and the washing machine and uh, you know,

442
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 2: all the couches that I find out there weren't there

443
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 2: from by the homeless, the house population, you know.

444
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 3: Right that that it started because somebody took an old

445
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 3: crappy mattress and threw it out there instead of paying

446
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 3: eight dollars to take it to the dump.

447
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. And that's all these areas get trashed. And

448
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 2: and that used to be a beautiful spot. We'd go out,

449
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 2: you know, shooting and riding, you know, dirt bikes and stuff.

450
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 2: And now it's now it's it's scary out there because

451
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 2: it's just all the population that's out there. And and

452
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,479
Speaker 2: it's the first step, you know, they closed it down,

453
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 2: and they ended up closing down Chinat Road, the foresters did,

454
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 2: and I it's one of the only times that I've

455
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: agreed with an area closure because it was it was

456
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 2: I mean, there's five six million pounds of trash out

457
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 2: there still, all these abandoned camps and everything because they

458
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 2: moved everybody out. It's terrifying. But but but then the second,

459
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,719
Speaker 2: you know, the second or third third step is say, hey,

460
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: what if you guys are just going to trash this land,

461
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: why don't we just sell it? You guys aren't you

462
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 2: guys aren't respecting it. And then so it's just that's

463
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 2: another arrow in the quiver the people who are trying

464
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: to take this stuff away. Mm hmm, mm hmm.

465
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 3: And that's an interesting deal. Like a lot of the

466
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 3: people I had talked to, you know, kind of when

467
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,719
Speaker 3: when I would take kind of breaks, I'd just go

468
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 3: and help unload people's cars into the dumpsters there in

469
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 3: Gambler Town, and was taking that opportunity to chat with everybody,

470
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,719
Speaker 3: and very very consistently, I think for mostly local people,

471
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, well, we have to do this or

472
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 3: else they're going to close down more access. Yeah, which

473
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 3: was really interesting because we did we covered that uh

474
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: China Hat closure on the on the pod.

475
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, yeah, yeah, see that that's where we started.

476
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of the the inspirations for everything

477
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: that we do now, is just how terrible that there is.

478
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 2: By the way, you hopefully you cut in some footage

479
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: of you just head to toe covered in dirt, throw

480
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: it away, trash racing go karts and just you're like

481
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: a kidney candy story. So I was having a great time.

482
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: I did bring you guys. I got some for the

483
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: camera guys, some bracelets. We didn't have the bracelets there

484
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: when you were there.

485
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: There's a particularly reminds me I got we got my

486
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 3: ring is you know not it's just slightly too big

487
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 3: for my skinny little hands. But I'll get there.

488
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or I can, Yeah I can just a little

489
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: ball peen action on the bike. Yeah. We make one

490
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: of those rings every year. It's like a little Super

491
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: Bowl ring. You know, you buy it for yourself. But

492
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 2: then sometimes you're in a pickle and someone stops and

493
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: dusts you a solid and you know, fixes your car,

494
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: you know, gets you some water, you know, drags the

495
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: out of a situation, and and so it's also kind of

496
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,959
Speaker 2: trail currency too. Yep. So yeah, yeah, I love it.

497
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: You're pulling out millions of pounds of trash. You've developed

498
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: some good community relationships, and like who shows up for

499
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: this event? I think is a great because I saw

500
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 3: like a rave element. I saw a lot of dudes

501
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 3: that just resembled all my buddy's dad's growing up, you know,

502
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 3: like railroader types, and they're just they love to be

503
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: out there wrenching on stuff. And second to that, they

504
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 3: really like talking to people like bs and with other people.

505
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 3: So it's this community event. But who all shows.

506
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: Up and you didn't hit it right on the head.

507
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 2: You can wander into any camp in Campblertown and you'll

508
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 2: be offered, you know, a cold drink and you had

509
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: some conversation. You know, you guys can talk about cars

510
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: or punting or whatever. I'm actually talking to the b

511
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 2: h A guys from Arizona right now. Reached out and

512
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: then want to do a co lab and stuff right now.

513
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: And that it is if we talk about trash a lot,

514
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: because that's my that's my passion, and it's a thing

515
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: that we use to kind of refine and qualify the

516
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: type of people that come out. But don't even wrong.

517
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: Is I mean it's a party. I mean, it's it's

518
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: a fun we're we're rallying crap box cars across the desert,

519
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: racing for trash, you know. And and then but then

520
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: you spend most of the time, you know, kicking up

521
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: dust and having a ton of phne with your buddies.

522
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: And then at night we have a big rockets party,

523
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: and it's it's a type of situation. Whe Yeah, you

524
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 2: could leave a hundred dollars bill on your on your

525
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: seat and you're you know, surrounded by four thousand people

526
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: and it's going to be there when you get back,

527
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 2: Like just solid, solid people out there. So I'm really

528
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: proud of the community that we've managed to build. And

529
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: there are a lot of a lot of outdoor types,

530
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 2: you know, there a lot of owners, a lot of

531
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 2: a lot of hell e O's, a lot of firefighters

532
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: and people that come out and yeah, you wouldn't know it,

533
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 2: you know. I mean they're covered head to toe dirt

534
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: and you know, grin on their face. So it's I

535
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: would say, it's it is everything.

536
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, also like investment bankers and wealth managers and you know,

537
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: and it's like just seamlessly blending in. It's a melting

538
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: mixing pot, melting pot of people, right, I.

539
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: Had a guy come up to me and he said

540
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: something about wanting to get manufacturers involved, and I worked

541
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: with the Ford Motor Company through their Bronco Wild Fund

542
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, like I know if you guys

543
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: over there Ford and then and he's like, well, I

544
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: probably know you know their boss or something. I can't

545
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: remember what he said. I'm like, okay, whatever, you hit

546
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: me a card. It's the CEO of Hoss Racing was

547
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 2: out there. So Custer, you're listening, Thanks for coming out

548
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: and thanks for having a ruckus time and you do

549
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: no more people at Ford than the idea. But yeah,

550
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: that's just indicative of yeah, you're rubbing shoulders with the

551
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: you know, the guy who works you know, swinging a hammer,

552
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: and then also guy who runs a you know, a

553
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: full blown right you know, one of the biggest race

554
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: teams you know, in the and F one.

555
00:25:54,040 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, and it's it's an impressive scene and I

556
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: I think one of the craziest things that you've pulled

557
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: off here is just making it.

558
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: Work with.

559
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: A very loose structure, like people, there's a lot of

560
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: just straight up freedom.

561
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but.

562
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: You have a bunch of like fix it types, which

563
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: I think helps you have a bunch of people who

564
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: have something to do, like the picking up trash aspect.

565
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: And I'm not going to say like everybody out there

566
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 3: is looking forward to picking up trash. You know, there's

567
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: some people that are probably there way more for the

568
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: party than the.

569
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: Trash or you know whatever.

570
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 3: But I think it's just like all these elements combine

571
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: and really really just make it work. There's a lot

572
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 3: of respect out there. Your guys' number one rules.

573
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: What don't be a dick? Yeah, just keep it simple, right, Yeah. Yeah,

574
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: we have had to expand on that because people and

575
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: people figure out ways, uh to be still be a deck.

576
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: So I've had to define that. But yeah, we are

577
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: we definitely. We are defined by our lack of structure

578
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: and our vagueness. You know, a lot of times we

579
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of information out there. I've had

580
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: to increase the amount that's out there. But I was like,

581
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 2: if you can't figure out, you know, how this works,

582
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: then you probably don't belong in a five hundred dollars

583
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: car out in the middle of the desert. You know,

584
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: if you don't have that sense of adventure, and if

585
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: you're too worried about what may happen, you know, and

586
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 2: and aren't ready to break down out in the middle

587
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: of nowhere. And and like you said, not everybody's a

588
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 2: wrench large. I'm not a great mechanic, but I know

589
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: that someone is going to show up at some point

590
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: that's going to have a solution for me. You know,

591
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: either gonna have JB welders.

592
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: And you can probably have something like pretty well prepared

593
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: versus just being like, yeah, something happened and I just

594
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: laid down, yeah, and waited to be safe.

595
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then we're not these This isn't the Baja

596
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: right there, These are These are the same roads that

597
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: we use to get to our Elkin deer you know spots.

598
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: You know, these are This isn't o HV, you know,

599
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: like Johnson Valley or Moab where you're kind of on

600
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: this little you know, track to land. This is for

601
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: service BLM, you know, big open country, and that's that's

602
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: what we like to focus on. There's plenty of groups

603
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: that focus on OHV, and there's you know, plenty of

604
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: organizations that focus on back country, you know. Yeah, and

605
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: I think like the mix of people too.

606
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 3: It was really interesting, Like one of the very first

607
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: spots was really close to Gambler Town and we were

608
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: gonna try to film uh, this big fifth wheel camper

609
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: that had been abandoned used to be a much larger camp.

610
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: You could see it on on X on on X

611
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: off road app. You could see like a you know,

612
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

613
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: Five trailers there yet. Yeah, and it was, you know,

614
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: it was it was shitty.

615
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: It was very well crapped up, lots of like teeny

616
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: tiny micro trash all the way up to a big

617
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: fifth wheel camper that was full of stuff and the

618
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: doors ripped off and trash spilling out and no tires

619
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: or axles on that thing either, like they had been

620
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: scavenged for big recyclables and you know, heartbreaking to see.

621
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: And and we went out and we were trying to

622
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: like film it and people kept showing up, was before

623
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: the official started the race or the event, and they're like,

624
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: are you guys going to pick up this trash? They're like,

625
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: we got it, We're here to work type of thing.

626
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: And it was a you know, a pretty heartbreaking scene.

627
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: And that was on I want to say Thursday. On

628
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: Sunday morning, we went out there and there was this

629
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: group of like really young I would call them kids

630
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: that had driven down from Seattle together and they were

631
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: running around picking up trash at that same spot, but

632
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: it was essentially clean. And they were like, look at

633
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: all the trash that we found, and it was, you know,

634
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: like maybe a laundry basket, a small, shallow laundry basket

635
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: full of real small stuff, you know, and they're like,

636
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: look at this, Look at all the trash that we

637
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: got out of here. And I was like, oh my god,

638
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: you guys, like you should have seen this place four

639
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: days ago.

640
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that what you have right now.

641
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: Which is like your trophy trash, wouldn't have been like

642
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: a drop in the bucket. But I think the looseness

643
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: right like really works where it's like wave after wave

644
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: of people hit the spots and they're picking up their

645
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: trash each wave, and eventually the thing is cleaned. And

646
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: I mean it was like an emotional experience. It was

647
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: unbelievable the transformation for that spot.

648
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: And that was what one of fifteen campers that got

649
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: picked up and and all those areas got comb And think,

650
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: gosh for people like that who show because I I

651
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: have I don't have the attention span to do that.

652
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: I like call him big you know, cars, trailers, boats,

653
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: all that stuff out and so I'm usually my time

654
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: is better spent with you know, my truck. You know,

655
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: I touched this trailer out there, a hoss and the

656
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: big stuff out and so for me to sit there

657
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: and comb through the literal broken glass, which which could

658
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: you know, start another you know, little encampment there, you know,

659
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: so no one cares about this spot. I'll just you

660
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: know post up here. And that was right around the

661
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: corner from the rancher who hosted us, who had trepidations

662
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: about you know, having four thousand heathens on his property

663
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: and that that was a big thorn in his side,

664
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: was that camp. And so when he got back, because

665
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: he was gone that weekend, thank god. Uh oh, I

666
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: was going to say, he had just been shaking his

667
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 2: head the whole time. No, his guys are there, and

668
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: they they were. He was blown away. He said, not

669
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: one person you know, hoped this short little fence into

670
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: my you know, cattle operation. No one was up here

671
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: knowing nothing was broken. The whole community was just so

672
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: thankful for all the you know, all the extra money

673
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: that was spent down there, all the trash that got

674
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: picked up, you know, and so he was stoked, and

675
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: he was especially stoked to have that camper moved too,

676
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: because he had to drive by that basically every day. Yeah.

677
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, I did some talking with people on the

678
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: economic impact in town. Yeah, and a lot of a

679
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: lot of folks were like, oh, is that what those

680
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: weird cars are? They're like, we have, like we're selling

681
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: a lot of coffee, selling a lot of burritos, can't

682
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: find a bag ice in town, all that stuff, But

683
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: what is sons of smokey? How how did that get started?

684
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: Because that's a five oh one C three.

685
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: Right, yeah it is. And so yeah, Gambler was this

686
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: big fun event and I noticed how much how people

687
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: were engaged with the trash side of that thing, and

688
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: I was like, there are a lot of people who

689
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: want to pick up trash and do good stuff with

690
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: public land, but don't necessarily want to drive a five

691
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: hundred dollars car to do it. And so I said, well,

692
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: let's let's put together this energy that we've got to

693
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: create an organization. At first, my wife as a as

694
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: a corporate attorney, and she begged me not to start

695
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: a five one C three just because the amount and

696
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: and and here's the thing. If you want to do good,

697
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: don't start a nonprofit. Nonprofits are vehicles for to kind

698
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: of we kind of sometimes monetize your your passion, you know,

699
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: in stewardship, and there are times to do it, which

700
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: is what this is. But we've we've treated this, we've

701
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: kind of siloed it that every single dollar that comes

702
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: into Suns of Smoking goes directly to our stated purpose.

703
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: We have zero paid positions. I volunteer all my time

704
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: because I've got thousands of people volunteering their time to

705
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: help us achieve this this common goal. And so we're

706
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: able to pull that off by you know, we sell

707
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: some merchants, wag and stuff, but then also through a

708
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: generous grant for the past four years from the Bronco

709
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: Wild Fund, So every percentage of a little percentage percentage

710
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: of every Bronco that sold helps fund what we're doing,

711
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: along with the outward Bound National Parks Foundation, State Parks Foundation,

712
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: A couple more. Yeah.

713
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, but Sons of Smokey is a five A

714
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: one C three. It is you're trying to be super transparent.

715
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: You're you're making sure that every dollar would be a

716
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: flow through dollar.

717
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, because I want that kid who's at

718
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: the gas station who wants to buy a piece of swag,

719
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: I can do some good feel like he's doing that

720
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: and not not contributing to takes Jet Ski fund or something. Right. Yeah,

721
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: so Jesski is our fun but but Relaiser focused on trash,

722
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: and I was add, I love trash because it's there's

723
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: a measurable aspect to it, you know, a lot. It's

724
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 2: not actually named our copy company thoughts and prayers because

725
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: so many things are just like just flippant, right and

726
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: so and so the trash you can literally put it

727
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: on a scale and say, hey, this is what we accomplished,

728
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: you know, good job, or help us next time. So

729
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: sound a smokey organization supposed to sound like a mean

730
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: biker gang kind of like you know, there's not Friends

731
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: of the Squirrels or whatever, which we love squirrels as well.

732
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: And so if I want to see three just too well.

733
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: You told me, yeah, I can go about this a

734
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: couple of different ways with my excellent interview skills.

735
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm just going to go right at it.

736
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: You told me, You're like I there was some version

737
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: of I feel like everybody wants to do good, everybody

738
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: wants to be an environmentalist in a way.

739
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

740
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 3: Not everybody feels like they have a group. So that's

741
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: why I wanted to do Sons of Smoky because you

742
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 3: know that that like attracts people like you. Yeah, like

743
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: it sounds sounds cool, sounds tough like a biker gang.

744
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a biker gang. But like but also yeah,

745
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: but doing you know, because not everybody in this politicized

746
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: psycho world of you know, Facebook politics, not everyone feels comfortable. Uh,

747
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: you know, being an environmentalist is almost a dirty word.

748
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: And so we wanted, we wanted to create you know,

749
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: and and they they're not invited to conversation, you know,

750
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: because they don't drive a press. It's like, well, I've

751
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: got who's going to holl that boat out of the woods.

752
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: You know, it's my diesel truck and my trailer, you know.

753
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: And then so we leave partisan politics out of it.

754
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: Just kind of one of the really great things I

755
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: saw about you in the way you attack this this

756
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: public land cell bill was it's it's going to take

757
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: it's going to take more than just one half of

758
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: the aisle or one side of the isle. Or or nothing.

759
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: And I love the idea of bringing these issues outside

760
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: of the environment is not a political issue. That's where

761
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 2: we can all agree that public lands, public hands, keep

762
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: trash off of it. You know. That's that's that we

763
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 2: can all agree on that there's nothing to argue about,

764
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: you know. And there are a lot of issues like

765
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: that which I think are unfortunately are you know, very politicized. Yeah.

766
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, and you didn't, did you see? I didn't

767
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: see one political flag out there on you know what

768
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: I did not?

769
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not, which was really interesting. Yeah, in

770
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: the inside or outside of Gambler Town, but with with

771
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: the gamblers, it was very uh a political.

772
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. And when we don't care who you vote for,

773
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't it doesn't, it doesn't matter. And you also

774
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: talked a little bit about on on Rogan too, about

775
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: about we're we're allowed to be wrong about stuff. We're

776
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: allowed to to to disagree with our politicians, you know,

777
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: and we're allowed to walk these issues back. You know.

778
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: I'm a gone owner and an environmentalist, two things that

779
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: most people would just be enraged you know by, you know,

780
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: and and so being able to pull that out is

781
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: one of the things I'm really proud of it and

782
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: what we do with Gambler, but also Sons of Smoking.

783
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: But Sons of Smoky we do run these big chocol ups, right,

784
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: half million pounds and weekend four and a half million

785
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 2: pounds over the course of our you know, of these

786
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: events and stuff, but what we really are trying to

787
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: focus on is building tools for people to use every day.

788
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: Are the biggest thing we can do is our user groups,

789
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: our off road groups, our hunters, our hikers, our bird watchers.

790
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: Out there, they're the ones using the land, they value it.

791
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: You're the one out here who sees the trash. If

792
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: you're on a bike, you can't get that pilot tires.

793
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: You can open up our app. You can take a

794
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: picture of it and describe what they'll need to get it.

795
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: But super super simple. It's just one little click, one

796
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: little button, take a picture, maybe describe it. Boom, then

797
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: you know it says, hey, you know, cal mark this

798
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: trash up there, and then you know, you or somebody

799
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: else you go up there later later date with pickup

800
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: trus any organization. We're built a tool for all off

801
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: road groups back you know, hunter hunting groups, clubs, you know,

802
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 2: hikers to use this as as a tool to for service,

803
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 2: and the Bureau Land Management is starting to adopt it.

804
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 2: It's just the one big database for all this trash,

805
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: and so it serves to not only find, locate, get

806
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: rid of it, and then also but also document it

807
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: and also illustrate how big of a problem this is.

808
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: Because we all see that that boat or that RV

809
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: or that pilot tires, the chest freees are full of

810
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: dirty diapers that was out on Chinat Road. But you

811
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: but once you start extrapolating on that's every one of

812
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: these roads around every one of these little you know, ridges,

813
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: and within usually within about a mile of town as

814
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: this garbage dump, you know. And so but to be

815
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: able to document that and show people how big and

816
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: how it's growing, and it's not going in the right

817
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 2: direction even with what we're doing. And so we need

818
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: to engage all user groups to be out there, you know,

819
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: picking up stuff at all times.

820
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so, like when we were talking about the

821
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: public lands fight, there is like this cataclysmic event that

822
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: happened in the House and then in the Senate and

823
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 3: the House on X got some maps released that allowed

824
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: people to see what could potentially be sold off and

825
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: they went, oh my god, that now affects me. Everybody

826
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 3: said it did, but I couldn't see it.

827
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 2: Now it does.

828
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: The Wilderness Society did the same thing in the Senate

829
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 3: and everybody went, holy shit, that I know that spot.

830
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 3: That's my spot, you know. And so with the Sons

831
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: of Smoky app it's a same deal.

832
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: Man.

833
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: It's a great way to be like, you can see

834
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 3: the trash out there because people have marked it, and

835
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: you don't want those little icons building up. You want

836
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: them going away. So it the whole time. My mom's

837
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: a great trash picker. The whole time I was out

838
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: there for as wild and fun as the community is,

839
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: I was like, my mom would love this. They'd be

840
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 3: out tooling around. My mom and my stepdad be out

841
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: tooling around picking up trash, and they.

842
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: Would like of it. No, my mom loves it too.

843
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: You met my dad, Yeah, oh yeah, he's a he's

844
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: an ologist you were talking about. He said, you mentioned

845
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: that he heard you on some show talking about your

846
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: brief pursuit of the ologies. Yeah, oh yeah.

847
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: I had all the ologies University Montana had to offer

848
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 3: in a couple of semesters and was loving them.

849
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: I got into the two hundreds, I think, you know.

850
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 2: And then once, once he started getting the real smart

851
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 2: guy stuff, I was like, all right, this isn't for me. Yeah,

852
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: it turns out maths involved in fricking everything. Real bummer.

853
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about spots. I had that that thing,

854
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: and you know how it affects us. And they're all

855
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: our spots, you know, and so we all need to

856
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: look at it that way, not all not one acre approach.

857
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 2: And plus if if you take away someone else's spot,

858
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: that other person made land in your spot. Yeah, and

859
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: so there's gonna be one or two more, you know,

860
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: little orange orange hats one around on the on the

861
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: ridge line if they start shutting down spots. So how

862
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: did you develop the app? Because it's.

863
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but I feel like something

864
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: like on act or somebody should like buy that thing

865
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: or take it over to make it fully integrated into

866
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: so everybody knows where the trash is for sure, and

867
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: everybody can go pick it up.

868
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: How do I talk to AX directly? Do I look

869
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: into the camera? Yeah, yeah, we'll figure that out. Well, no,

870
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: and and we're GONEX is a fantastic partner of ours too,

871
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 2: And so there there are maps. I've been using them

872
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: to hunt and navigate off road forever. And my secret

873
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: goal is to have a layer you can import inside

874
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: the on x app that would show our database of trash.

875
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: You know. I still want to be you know, it

876
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: doesn't behoove is a nonprofit. I don't get anything. I

877
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: can't build equity. I don't get it. I don't get

878
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: a cash out if they buy the app, you know,

879
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: and then I'm stuck, and then what's some to smokey?

880
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: At that point, I'd like to be a partner, you know,

881
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: with you know and and uh and I think that'd

882
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: be fantastic because yeah, they're there and the way that

883
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 2: they stood up in the fight and vocalize their efforts

884
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: when a lot of users, when a lot of organizations

885
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: and nonprofit it's I thought, we're we're supposed to be

886
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: in this fight. Were very silent. Yeah, and you had

887
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: cool companies like on x making us stink. So that

888
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: was cool year. So how did you develop the app? Yeah,

889
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: I'm not smart enough to actually building that, but we

890
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 2: have a development company that uh uh a scare scarab

891
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: ex scurb is uh is the name of it. I

892
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: think it's on sonse of smoky you can find them

893
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: a great local company actually from from Central organ That

894
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: is is that it also helps with these cleanups. These

895
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: guys are awesome, so they knew what the assignment was

896
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: and so yeah, we just we we built it up

897
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: and you know, it was expensive. Apps are not cheap

898
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: to to develop, especially you know this one which is

899
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: simple yet you know does the job and it's cool.

900
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: I suggest anyone even if if you're not going to

901
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: mark trash or you're not on your way out, you know,

902
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: to do that. You could open it up and you

903
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: can like it's like a it's trash tourism. You can

904
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: see the trash that's in Florida or New York and

905
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: it's in every state in the nation.

906
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 3: Any so you you can take a picture of it.

907
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: You can write notes, yeah, and you say like generally

908
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: what it's going to take to get something out, Yeah,

909
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: like pickup truck.

910
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: Or you need a trailer. If there's biohazard, you can

911
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: market it as a biohazard. We typically don't try to engage.

912
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: Biohazard's just not in our wheelhouse. There's more trash around

913
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: the corner that doesn't have grows stuff in it. But yeah,

914
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: if you see the trash mark the trash. If your

915
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: adventure biker hunter, you don't have time, you don't have

916
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: the room to get it, just market somebody eventually will

917
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: come out and get it, you know, and it's just

918
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: looking for trash. A lot of time is through three

919
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: quarters of the time and so if you know exactly

920
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: where it's at and you know what the tool is

921
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: to grab, it makes everything far more streamlined and easy

922
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: to do. And it's fun. It's kind of like Pooky

923
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: Man Go for you know, for adults or for you know,

924
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 2: adventures and outdoor lovers. And then what what's Bronco Wild

925
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: Fund Bronco Wild Fund is is the.

926
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: Hat a blast with the app By the way, I

927
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 3: shouldn't say that, Yeah, I mean loved it.

928
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: When we're still developing it, right, I mean we don't.

929
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: We're still when we so all that feedback is good

930
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: and it's it's still work in progress. It's that's like,

931
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: that's our big thing is creating that tool that fits

932
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: in your pocket that everybody can use. But the Bronco

933
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: Wild Fund has been critical that they they give us,

934
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: you know, the sizeable donation every year to to to

935
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: dispose of trash and then also developed these tools to

936
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: put in people's pockets. And then in return, we engage

937
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: with the Ford Motor Company because it's, first of all,

938
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: it's the last American uh you know motor company, which

939
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: which I'm proud of. Yeah.

940
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 3: The most ship I got, because there was definitely some

941
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: ship talking out there in Gambler Town.

942
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

943
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: But our rental vehicle, because we flew in was a

944
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: jeep like Grand Cherokee, your wagon, you're you know, a

945
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: huge suburban like yeah, And people were like, nice Italian vehicle.

946
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't. It's what they gave me. The like,

947
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: how'd you pick that up? There's lore, there's lore behind

948
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: why they were giving you ship. There's Gambler lore why

949
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: the cheap brand is not is not is not beloved.

950
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: And it's a long story, but I I had originally

951
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: when I was looking for sponsors, I had. I pretended

952
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: I wanted a fake sponsor so I could attract other sponsors.

953
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, what if a cat food

954
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: company sponsored the Gamber five hundred. So I said, the

955
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: Gamber five hundred presented by meow Mix cat Food, And

956
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: this is what is our website. We're getting two hundred

957
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: thousand people on it. You know, uh, you know a year,

958
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: we're getting ten million a month on our Instagram. So

959
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: this is this is out there that meo Mix is

960
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: sponsoring this this automotive rally. And so I get a

961
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: message they say, hey, you know that's not really who

962
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: did you talk to over here? I'm like nobody. I

963
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: was just having some fun, Like they sent me a

964
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: season assist. You were like, can I speak to mister mix.

965
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: They're only a dull food company. Yes, I could have

966
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: gotten some real trouble probably, But then because what I

967
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: did next is I published their cease and assist they

968
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: sent me. Because getting sent a ceason assist by a

969
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: cat food company pretty far about the funniest thing that's

970
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: ever happened, like to me at least. And so then

971
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: I then I was like, well that got me a

972
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: lot of attention. And I want to start because my

973
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 2: grandparents owned the Jeep dealership in Sacramento. My dad's in

974
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: the jeeps, so I gotta see if I get Jeep involved,

975
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: and so I'll just use them by send them a message.

976
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: They're going to ignore me. But if I publish that

977
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: they sent me a cease and desist people. I think,

978
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: I think that's hilarious, and so I've been calling them

979
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: Jeeps for a long time because of the way that

980
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: that's stamped on wranglers on the side. All in good fun,

981
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, I'd like Jeeps. I had a Jeep gladiator

982
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: at the time. Uh and uh sure enough the internet.

983
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: I just thought that it was hilarious that Jeep was

984
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: sending me a season and assist. The marketing manager and

985
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: the brand manager for Jeep sends me this call. Frantic.

986
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: He's like, He's like I was. I was panicking, you know,

987
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: mass emails across the company, trying to figure out who

988
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: sent you a Ceason assist. Then I figured out that

989
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: you had just doctored it, and so he said you

990
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 2: want to work together, and I was like, yeah, awesome,

991
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: So I could all we have a zoom meeting and

992
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 2: I'm all ready and we're put on a collared shirt.

993
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: And I got ghosted by by the brand manager at

994
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: the time, and so then I had a real chip

995
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: on my shoulders. Oh yeah. But Ford called me and

996
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, is Tate working exclusively with Jeep? And

997
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: I was like, well, it just happens to be. We

998
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: have a spot open and so Ford's been super punk.

999
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: Rocket Bronco is a fantastic product. We took it in

1000
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: ours through the Rubicon Trail mo ab santall up hauled

1001
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: two elk inside the cab.

1002
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: I run around with you, remember, I was like, God,

1003
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: what upgrades and stuff.

1004
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: Did you do? And and uh bone stock.

1005
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, not that your answers would really mean anything.

1006
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: But oh yeah we upgraded the bobber. No, it's things

1007
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: bone stock. I put stickers on it, yea off. Yeah,

1008
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: we were we huffed up that grade out of that

1009
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: canyon when we have to. We pulled those truck parts

1010
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: out there, and yeah, she took that instead and then

1011
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: no one, no one else was able to make it

1012
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: up there.

1013
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a like a multi pitch type of

1014
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: grade two, I mean short wheelbase vehicle. Yeah, it's definitely optimal.

1015
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: But there's a little transition that made that thing a

1016
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: little tougher then. Yeah.

1017
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: I was like, oh this is and you were literally

1018
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: on the phone with a news outlet.

1019
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: At the time. Oh yeah, just like as normal normal stuff. Yeah.

1020
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: We we do a lot of off like rock crawling

1021
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: on and off road and stuff too. That's what I

1022
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: was into before we got into the crap car stuff

1023
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: was was old land cruisers and taking them you know,

1024
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: off the you know, rubicon stuff like that. Yeah.

1025
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: And so Bronco Wild Fund that it's like the philanthropic

1026
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 3: arm of Ford.

1027
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's through their cause marketing program. And yeah,

1028
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: they they are the real deal. Like normally these things

1029
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: are window dressing, you know, and and they they help

1030
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: us make a big difference and a measurable difference. I

1031
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: mean we've done over you know, about half of all

1032
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: of our poundage with their assistance. So we got two

1033
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: million pounds of trash removed and its disposal and the

1034
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: felt when the app can be attributed to the Bronco

1035
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: Wild Fund, you know. And also I never can't say

1036
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 2: you know, our volunteers in that same sentence too, because

1037
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: these these are the people out there picking it up

1038
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: and they I mean they love you saw enthusiastic that

1039
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: they were amazing and stuff. Yeah, like yeah, and just

1040
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: like so jacked to.

1041
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: Haul campers in and uh, I mean there's no no

1042
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: shortage nasty stuff. We we hauled out a couple of

1043
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: things where you know, like the smell coming out and

1044
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: it was it was brutal, but people a couple of

1045
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: those campers have been sitting there for like two years

1046
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 3: on public land.

1047
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, No, I'm usually in the excavator there, and

1048
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: so I get to pick apart a lot of these

1049
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: campers and and stuff in the dumpsters and and you know,

1050
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: I've gotten it down, but there's a tricky part. There's

1051
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: a gooey center sometimes that you don't make sure. You

1052
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 2: don't want to to pun sure that sucker. I've done

1053
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: it once before. That was good. I take a little

1054
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: bit of a break in the desert. Yeah yeah.

1055
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: Uh so the gambler there that is in maddress is

1056
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 3: is that like there's multiple events, right? Yeah, so what

1057
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 3: what's like the kind of list of events because they're

1058
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: spread out, So there's.

1059
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: The official events that I put on on host. You know,

1060
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: we'll go down to King of the Hammer, so we'll

1061
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: go down to like the Mint four hundred, and we'll

1062
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: do these off road events and we'll we'll do a

1063
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: clean up alongside these events. You know, we bring a

1064
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: lot of a big party with us and then we

1065
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: engage with the people are down there. Even if you're

1066
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: not a gambler, come out to our events. Usually, know,

1067
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: if you're in the automotive space. You know who we

1068
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: are or what we do, and so we'll it's a

1069
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: nice way to engage with them. But this goes all

1070
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: the way back to two thousand and seventeen when we

1071
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: blew up and before we even had our first event

1072
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: there where us three thousand people showed up. I was like,

1073
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 2: people are showing up to do something that's not gonna

1074
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: resemble what they came here to do. We were fifty people,

1075
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: very intimate, grassroots, cool, under the radar, free public land,

1076
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: just just me setting way points for my buddies, throwing

1077
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: a machet of paper and be like, hey, I'll see

1078
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 2: in camp, no structure, no, you know, if they broke down,

1079
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: they broke down, maybe you know, maybe we could help

1080
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: them the next day. But you know, we drive by

1081
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 2: people who broke down the road. Our buddies are close

1082
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 2: personal friends, and we just sign our sc tomorrow, buddy,

1083
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 2: like we've got we've got to get you know, get

1084
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: ourselves a camp on time. And so I knew that

1085
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: that was gonna the whole event. The inspiration of this

1086
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: thing was gone, and so I was like, if you

1087
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: want to start a punk rock gambler event, that's free

1088
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: that's that's fun and that picks up trash. You can

1089
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: use our name and logo as long as you don't

1090
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: monetize it, because if you monetize it, now you have

1091
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: Now you have more, you have liability. Well not liability

1092
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: is one thing, but now you have, you have you

1093
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: there's motivation to grow it past what it's supposed to be,

1094
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: which is a small intimate event of you know, thirty

1095
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: forty fifty twenty people would be great. And so if

1096
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: you take away that motivation for you don't want to

1097
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: grow it and you want to make it big, because

1098
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: I'd already ruined that weekend for me. You saw me.

1099
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: I was a stress case and I was most relaxed.

1100
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: I've been at a gambler probably to date, I've never

1101
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: been able to sneak out and do as much cool

1102
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: stuff as we did as we did this last event.

1103
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, as long as you use you can, and

1104
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 2: that's it's really it's covered by free you free use.

1105
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 2: You know, you can use the logos long you're not monitoring.

1106
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: You can make coke coke col can give you the

1107
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: recipe for coke col and you make it home and

1108
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: enjoy it and give it to your friends. But you

1109
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: can't take the recipe and sell it and call it

1110
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 2: col Cola, right, And so I just wanted to use

1111
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: that same If you understand the concept of going out

1112
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 2: having fun with the buddies and not making it about money,

1113
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: not making about any of that stuff, then you can

1114
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: use our name and logo. Like now, I have, you know,

1115
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars insurance policy, you know, twenty five thousand

1116
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 2: dollars with a porta potties, and I gotta pay you know,

1117
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: twenty some more grand to get my bands and production

1118
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: there and insurance and rent the place. And that's you know,

1119
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 2: it's one hundred thousand dollars bill, you know, to put

1120
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: this thing together, even before I've collected the dime. So

1121
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: you know, it's a hard thing to manage and keep

1122
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: it true. I mean, you saw, it's feral nature. We

1123
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: don't have security. I don't have Sunday at twelve o'clock,

1124
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: when everybody was gone, I didn't have to pick up

1125
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 2: a single piece of trash. There was a massive party

1126
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: there the day before, and I didn't hear nothing on

1127
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: the ground. I don't put out garbage cans. People just

1128
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: take care of themselves. And so it's that relying and

1129
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: trust in people to do the right thing and be cool.

1130
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 2: That's that's that's what this is. It's a funny social

1131
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: experiment and it works in our case. Yeah, a lot

1132
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 2: of instances where it done hark, Yeah for sure.

1133
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 3: And you know again, when I was unloading trash, I

1134
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 3: talked to multiple folks because I'd be like, well, how

1135
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 3: many gamblers have you been to and they're like, oh,

1136
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 3: we do one one once a month, right, And it's

1137
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 3: that these different communities. I talked to people from Tennessee,

1138
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 3: New York, maybe Florida, and uh that that kid that

1139
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: we rode around with from Illinois I thought was amazing.

1140
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 3: He I can't remember his name, yeah, but he had

1141
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: the Land of Lincoln plates and and we went out

1142
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: there to where I found my Chevy emblem.

1143
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We just ran into those

1144
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: guys randomly, like I wasn't but.

1145
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: That dude, I he was easy to keep tabs on, yeah,

1146
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: because he was a one man band and he was

1147
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 3: in and out of Gambler Town NonStop that whole whole

1148
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: time picking up trash. I mean, he was impressive. And

1149
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: he told me he's like, it's like, well, why wouldn't

1150
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 3: I do this. I drove all the way out from

1151
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: Illinois because we don't have public land. Yeah, He's like,

1152
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 3: I want to make sure it's around.

1153
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing, and and that's and that is the prize, right,

1154
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 2: it's the experience and everything you don't we don't have

1155
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: like raffles. And then you know, bless everybody who does

1156
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: a raffle and does these events that are structured like

1157
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: you're normally. But I don't need to lure people in

1158
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: with the promise of free stuff for a trophy. The

1159
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 2: experience and and the and this the satisfaction of doing it.

1160
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 2: And that's that's why it works so well, is because

1161
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: we just get people who who understand. Yeah, you know

1162
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: that's the way that that's the way world, world dee.

1163
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: So you guys do have trophies. Oh we have some

1164
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: throat yeah. Fuel Safe Uh local company there in Redman

1165
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: built some trophies for them to trash people. I just

1166
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: make I see what happens over the weekend, and I

1167
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: just make up awards and we'll give them to them,

1168
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: right like I I you know, and like we did.

1169
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: We gave away some rccars too from traxis and it's

1170
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: just I just you know, I single out some people

1171
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: with kids and it's like, oh hey, buddy, you want

1172
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: an award. And then we do have our you know,

1173
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 2: we have this scepter, but it's like with four thousand

1174
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: people there, it's for everybody, not for one person. And

1175
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: so I always preface it with that like this is

1176
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: kind of like I don't value this a war, this thing,

1177
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: but it's we're going to do it anyways. Yeah, and

1178
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: it's and a lot of times it is kind of passed,

1179
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: uh and and it's not exactly you know, it's it's

1180
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: it is kind of a joke at times called the Scepter.

1181
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what we call it actually the sceptor.

1182
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: So we have like this hatchet thing now that we

1183
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: give out in a trophy, the Galt Trophy, which celebrates

1184
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: a young man, William Galt, who lost his life the

1185
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 2: day before a gambler. He's twenty one years old, got

1186
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: hit by a distracted driver the night before he was

1187
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: supposed to take off to the gambler and he was

1188
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: he was real solid. It's ali bro. So we we

1189
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: can have the trophy there to like, you know, you

1190
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: go out and have these experiences in this fun for

1191
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 2: for the the fact that he didn't get to yeah anymore.

1192
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, darn right. What so how do people get involved?

1193
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: So on Gambler, go to Gamba five hundred dot com

1194
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, google it, watch some videos and

1195
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: uh and then if you're brave enough, just show up

1196
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: with uh with you know, anything with your you know,

1197
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 2: crack box car or Tacoma and and I'll give you

1198
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: a you know, a set of you know, loose instructions

1199
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: and wait points. And also, you know, you can use

1200
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 2: the app to go to navigate through the forests and stuff,

1201
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: and you'll find a bunch of other goofballs out there

1202
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: having fun as far as Sons of Smokey goes. Sons

1203
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 2: of Smoky dot com has a link for the app.

1204
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: It's on Google and iOS, so get on there. And

1205
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: then yeah, you can open up and immediately start looking

1206
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: at trash lights around the whole country, and you can

1207
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: see what areas are affected, what areas have a lot

1208
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: of engagement people out there working, And you can go

1209
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: down to Johnson Valley, are all over Arizona anywhere and

1210
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: see what kind of craps out there. And then we

1211
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: do have some some events structured for that, like we

1212
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: go down to King of the Hammers and do cleanup

1213
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: and do some of these other larger events. But our

1214
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 2: main mantra is just user groups are going to be

1215
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: the ones to fix this problem. You know, you don't

1216
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: have to lace up your boots and hold the trailer

1217
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 2: out there and give your whole sunday. Just pick up trash.

1218
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: If you're out there fishing or hunting or hiking or

1219
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: whatever it is and you see some tires on the

1220
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: side of the road, that's the norm in the back

1221
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: of your pickup truck. You know, I know it sucks

1222
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 2: us the minimum five dollars to dispose of but like

1223
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 2: there's no for service trash man, you know out there

1224
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: we don't there's no position for that. You know, we're responsible.

1225
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: It's ours, We're responsible for cleaning up. And if I

1226
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: can't remember who said it, but if you're gonna make

1227
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: the world a better place, you're gonna have to pick

1228
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: up other people's ship. So wait, So yeah, we say

1229
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: day to day, use the app, you know, follow us

1230
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: on the digitals, on the socials and stuff and and

1231
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: and you know, share it and engage with us. You know,

1232
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I want to get more involved

1233
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: in the b h A, yeah, we watch you. Conservation

1234
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: is not convenient.

1235
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah right, it's like if you want to do it,

1236
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: it's gonna inconvenience you, yeah, somehow, but we need you, right,

1237
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 3: So I think, uh, yeah, it's it's it's great stuff.

1238
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: It's it's like putting some.

1239
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 3: Some party in preservation or party and conservation right and

1240
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 3: then and it's just I think people leave that event

1241
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: probably a little dehydrated and sunburned, a little little too

1242
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: much dust in their nostrils, ears and eyeballs, but they're

1243
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 3: they're stoked to be a part of that community. And

1244
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: I'll just tell you like on I drove to Eugene

1245
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 3: after the event on Sunday, and I saw multiple gamblers

1246
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 3: on their way home pulled over picking up more trash

1247
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: their way home, which is like, got to make you

1248
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: feel good, right.

1249
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: I've got a great picture from my my brother in law,

1250
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: Matt Cox. He was on his way to hunt Zoomball

1251
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: and uh and there was some road construction and and

1252
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: he saw his two or three cars up and a

1253
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: bunch of people poured out of them with trash bags

1254
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: and uh and they're picking up trash while they were

1255
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: just waiting for this construction in the middle of nowhere,

1256
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: pick up trash onside road, all wearing Gambler t shirts.

1257
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: It was so proud. I love that picture. I need

1258
00:58:58,640 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: to pull up. Yeah, give it to you.

1259
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 3: And then Yeah, one one thing that I want to

1260
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 3: make happen here at the Meat Eater dot Com is

1261
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: we want to add your guys's trash bags to the store. Somehow,

1262
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 3: some way, we got to figure that out with you.

1263
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 3: But he guys developed an awesome like nylon would kind

1264
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 3: of be like decoy bag that straps onto whatever you

1265
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 3: want to strap it onto, but.

1266
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: The exterior of your vehicle.

1267
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can be tooling or along doing whatever,

1268
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: going out to your hunting fishing spot, have that thing

1269
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 3: strapped on the outside and if you see something, it's

1270
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 3: just a real easy chuck it in there and keep

1271
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 3: on truck.

1272
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little trail bag. It hooks onto the the

1273
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: tailgate of your truck or even the trunk lender your car,

1274
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: or the lift gate or you know, spare tire. It'll

1275
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 2: snag on there. And says sons of Smokey fly the

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Speaker 2: flag and that's what you know. A lot of times,

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Speaker 2: if I'm out target shooting or something something, I'll go

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Speaker 2: pick up trash first. If I'm ever in a spot,

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Speaker 2: I'll pick up trash and then and then if I'm

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Speaker 2: ever engaging with law enforcement who wants to, you know,

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Speaker 2: sus me out what I'm doing out here, I can

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Speaker 2: show that you know I'm out here, you know, for

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Speaker 2: you it's it's usually kind of you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: they dropped any of their intrepidations about about you know,

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Speaker 2: what kind of person you know people we are out there,

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Speaker 2: So yep, it's nice. We have trash bags on their

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Speaker 2: sonst smoky dot com. Awesome. What's your next event? Gosh, Well,

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Speaker 2: we're building the race car right now. I mean it's

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Speaker 2: not all trash and and fun. We also do some fabrication.

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Speaker 2: We're building a tube chassis uh LS rear engine LS

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Speaker 2: long travel portal axled Ferrari based race car. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: go take racing at the Mint four hundred and and

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Speaker 2: probably down in Baja. So yeah, we're focused on fit

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Speaker 2: and just building projects. Got some hunting trips coming pulled

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Speaker 2: a got a nice Lammett Valley deer tag and then

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Speaker 2: a nice cow tag for out there in eastern Oregon.

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Speaker 2: Sofully I'll get that meat in that freezer, which we've got,

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Speaker 2: you know, pretty sick, So you need to come out.

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Speaker 1: Da.

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Speaker 2: We've got a nice walk in and we process all

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Speaker 2: our own game, uh, and we grind all our own sausage.

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Speaker 2: And I think Andy invited you out for a high

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Speaker 2: fence squirrel hunt. Didn't. Oh yeah you did, Yeah for sure,

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Speaker 2: got crawdaddies down there on the twalten River. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, folks, if if you think old

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Speaker 3: Tate here is entertaining Andy and knock your socks off,

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Speaker 3: he's He's a good one. You will be able to

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Speaker 3: see Tate and Andy, uh plus the Gambler five hundred

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Speaker 3: on a future episode.

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Speaker 2: Of Cal the Wild Cal in the Field Phil.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what we call this anymore, but

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be on the meat Eater YouTube channel. And

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Speaker 3: if you have, you can track Tate down real easy.

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Speaker 3: But if you have any questions for him, and you'd

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Speaker 3: rather run them through me as K C.

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Speaker 2: A L.

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Speaker 3: That's Askcal at themeteater dot com. Uh, let me know

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Speaker 3: what's going on in your neck of the woods, and

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Speaker 3: I will let you know what what Tate's up to,

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Speaker 3: and we can have him back on to answer any

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Speaker 3: questions that you have, or have him answer them and

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Speaker 3: I'll read them off to you, whatever works. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for listening. Remember to write an ask c

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Speaker 3: L Mediator dot com and we'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 3: It's Tate in Oregon, Sons of Smoky Gambler five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Thanks for being here,