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Speaker 1: Guys, as O, Joe and I, we told you earlier

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Speaker 1: we had a great conversation with the legendary Michael Johnson.

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Speaker 1: And here's the here's our interview with Michael. We hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy it. Oh Joe, I told you we're gonna

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Speaker 1: try to make this thing the real Olympics. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: gonna get we were I'm gonna going to have former greats.

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Speaker 1: The guy that's gonna talk with us for about forty

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Speaker 1: five minutes today is a former two time world champion

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Speaker 3: The world breaking.

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Speaker 1: time Olympic gold medal in four hundred meters. He's a

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Speaker 1: thousand and he's the only man currently to win the

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Speaker 1: One of the greatest printers in the history of sprinting,

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Speaker 3: Michael Johnson, Mike's.

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Speaker 4: Going on, guys. Good to see both man. Good to

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Speaker 4: see you. I haven't talked to both of you guys

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, man, Mike, when you hear the accolades,

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Speaker 1: The game has been going on since eighteen ninety six.

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Speaker 1: And we see some young guys come in and they

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Speaker 1: I mean nineteen twenty years of age and can't replicate

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Speaker 1: Mike, when I look at you and I go back

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Speaker 1: How different is running a four hundred as a two?

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Speaker 1: When you when I go back and study you a

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Speaker 4: four hundred meter relay to Great Britain because they didn't

437
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 4: put me on that yet the hurdler, the herder probably

438
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 4: ran down Pedigrew that you exactly right, Chris Akabusi ran down. Pettigrew.

439
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 4: The team coach that year didn't like me, so he said, hey,

440
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 4: we don't need Michael Johnson on out four hundred meter relay.

441
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 4: He didn't run the four hundred meters at the trials.

442
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 4: We don't need to put him on. We can win

443
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Speaker 4: it without him. I'm readingumber one in the world, undefeated.

444
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 3: For two years.

445
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 4: Right, he does not put me on the four by four.

446
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 4: They lose the next year in nineteen ninety two, I'm

447
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 4: on the four by four. I got food poison right

448
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 4: before the Olympics. You remember this, Shannon, We talked about this.

449
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 4: So back then, what happened? So I got food poison,

450
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 4: didn't make the final into two hundred. Theys like we

451
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 4: still need you on the four box four. I'm like, man,

452
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 4: I'm not, I'm I'm I'm not even I'm a shell

453
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 4: of myself. I can't even run that fast right now,

454
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 4: they're like a seventy five percent. Michael Johnson is better

455
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 4: than anybody else, So let's go each on the street

456
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 4: line Like, okay, So my split in ninety two when

457
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 4: we broke the world record, I was the weak leg

458
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Speaker 4: on that relay. I was still remember I was I

459
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 4: lost weight. I'm still feeling I think I split like

460
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Speaker 4: forty four nine or even maybe even forty five flat.

461
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 4: It was horrible, but we still broke the world record.

462
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 4: So fast forward to what you're talking about. Ninety three.

463
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Speaker 4: I had just won the four hundred, beat all of

464
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Speaker 4: those guys. Now we're coming to get other in the

465
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Speaker 4: four by four. Yeah, at that point, it's like I'm gonna,

466
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna, I'm gonna make up for last year. And

467
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 4: then also if we broke the world record last year

468
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Speaker 4: with me at forty five flat, if I can put

469
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Speaker 4: it down like what I'm normally used to doing. We're

470
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Speaker 4: gonna put this world record to a point where I

471
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Speaker 4: ain't know. We got a nonybody gonna break it for thirty years,

472
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Speaker 4: and that's where we are today. Nobody else still broke

473
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Speaker 4: that record, so it's got a grand fast fan. I

474
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Speaker 4: ran forty two nine on the anchor.

475
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Speaker 1: Mike, do you realize that the record that y'all originally

476
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Speaker 1: broke with the nineteen sixty eighteen Matthews, Freeman, James, Louie Evans,

477
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: do you realize outside of the Americans, nobody else has

478
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: ever run a time like they ran in nineteen sixty

479
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: sixty fifteen.

480
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 4: That two fifty Lee Evans, Larry James, those guys crazy.

481
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 4: That's also where Lee broke the four hundred meters world

482
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Speaker 4: record forty three eighty six.

483
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Speaker 1: I believe it was forty three six. Larry James was said,

484
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Speaker 1: I think didn't they didn't they? I think they might

485
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Speaker 1: have took the one to him then, like, yeah, yeah,

486
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: but we've been dominant in the four hundred meters if

487
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: you go back from from nineteen eighty four to two

488
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, we dominated.

489
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Speaker 4: Then it was sad to see what happened Mike, what happened?

490
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, You know, it does go in

491
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 4: waves sometimes, but that shouldn't happen. We just had some

492
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 4: like this cat Quincy Hall, right, what we always just

493
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: talked about. You look at this profile. He has a

494
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 4: dog on there, like a face of the dog, because

495
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: he's a He's literally that, he's a dog, right, he

496
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 4: is that that when you know the young kids say,

497
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: oh he a dog.

498
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Speaker 3: Man.

499
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 4: We didn't have that for a while. We did not

500
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Speaker 4: have that for a while. I saw it and like, no,

501
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 4: we didn't have that for a while. I mean, so

502
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 4: right after me, it was Jeremy Warrener Taylor. You know,

503
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 4: Jeremy was a dog. He's like, I don't care. You know,

504
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 4: I don't care because he had that.

505
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Speaker 3: I don't.

506
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 4: If I lose, I lose, you know. If I lose,

507
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 4: I lose, and I deal with that. Then. But the

508
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 4: guys that come into an event coming to a race

509
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 4: thinking about, well what happens if I lose? Before the race,

510
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 4: you already lost, right, you already lost. And we had

511
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 4: some of them, We had a few of them for

512
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: a while. I think it's I think it's it's coming

513
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 4: back now, coming back.

514
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

515
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Speaker 5: You know what, I would that that transitions me right

516
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Speaker 5: into your next question, because I don't get ready to

517
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 5: ask you what are your thoughts on the current state

518
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 5: of track and field right now? And how do you

519
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 5: see it evolve and based on where we are now,

520
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 5: because you did just say it comes in waves, it

521
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 5: goes in waves. Do you think we're right on the

522
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 5: on the on the right track to kind of dominate

523
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 5: in the sport again?

524
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Speaker 7: And maybe the one, the two, and obviously the four.

525
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. Oho. So look, the Jamaican

526
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 4: has been taking it to us for the last city.

527
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 4: You know, I mean you got to give them credit.

528
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a nation of less than three

529
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 4: million people and they go toe to toe and sometimes

530
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 4: like I said, and for the last sixteen years, they've

531
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Speaker 4: been handing it to a nation of three hundred million people.

532
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 4: That's crazy. Where else does that? It's amazing. That's why

533
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 4: the Jamaican brand from a sprint standpoint is so significant.

534
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 4: They were known around the world as the sprint Capitol.

535
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 4: They got great coaches, they got a lot of talent,

536
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 4: and it used to be back when I was in college,

537
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: all of the Jamaican athletes will come to the US

538
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 4: for better training and facilities. Right around two thousand and

539
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 4: six seven they stopped. They started they got some great

540
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 4: coaches down there and they started saying, hey, just stay

541
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Speaker 4: at home, we'll train you here. And that's when you

542
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 4: saw that explosion. So you know, and it's just been

543
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 4: it's been, it's been amazing. But you know, for us

544
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 4: as the US, we saw what happened here in Paris.

545
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 4: You know, Noah spread you know those guys, I mean,

546
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Speaker 4: it's not any And look at Jamaica's have found some

547
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 4: new talent. Shane Thompson, Kabel obliek obliic Seville, those guys,

548
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 4: they got some talent. You know, they had a little

549
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 4: bit of a board after boat left and now they

550
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 4: got some more talent. But us got some too on

551
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 4: the men's side. On the women's side, the Jamaicans have

552
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: been it's been ridiculous. I've never seen a situation where

553
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 4: they had two of the greatest sprinders of all time

554
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: and then found another one on top of that with

555
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 4: Shrikan converted her from a four hundred meters to a

556
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Speaker 4: one hundred two hundred meters sprend and then now you

557
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 4: got another one. It was just it's been crazy that

558
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 4: that's that doesn't happen all at the time. So now

559
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 4: what we're seeing is okay, those they you know, Elaine

560
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: is pretty much done. Her body's just not going to

561
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 4: be able to former coach you even said that her

562
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 4: body is just not gonna be able to do that anymore.

563
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 4: So she's probably on the way out and probably going

564
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 4: to retire here soon. Shelley Anne is done. She's the

565
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 4: greatest of all time. She's done enough. She's retiring after

566
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Speaker 4: this year. And so so this is the first time,

567
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Speaker 4: like in this women's two hundred last night the other day,

568
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Speaker 4: I mean Gaby with Gaby one, there was no woman

569
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Speaker 4: tamake a woman in that in that final, and a

570
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: Jamaican woman has I sided stature today. A Jamaican woman

571
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 4: has medaled in the two hundred every year, every Olympic

572
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 4: years since nineteen seventy six. So it goes in stages

573
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 4: and goes in ways. I think the US is at

574
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 4: a position where, I mean we're always at the top

575
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Speaker 4: of the medal table. But the events you talked about,

576
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Speaker 4: Ohod Spence, right, yes, said Avoyd for us the last

577
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: few years, I think it's yeah, it's coming back. It's

578
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: coming back.

579
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been having to share the table. You talked

580
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Speaker 1: about Gabby Thomas. She ran blistering twenty one eighty two.

581
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Speaker 1: If you go back and look at this before the Olympics,

582
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Speaker 1: her pre race trial. She ran on the Diamond League

583
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Speaker 1: and she faced Julian Alfred and she faced Dina asher Smith,

584
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: and she let them get out and she came back

585
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: in the last twenty meters. She was in third and

586
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Speaker 1: within the with twenty meters to go, she shot the first.

587
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Speaker 1: She did not make that mistake yesterday, Mike. She came

588
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: when she came out that being, she was not bullgiling

589
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: with Julian Alfred, she was not bullgiled with Dina asher Smith.

590
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: She said, I am going to drop the hammer. I'm

591
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Speaker 1: gonna leave no doubt in your mind that this race

592
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Speaker 1: is over. And when she stepped out of the corn,

593
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: when she stepped out of that.

594
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Speaker 5: Being, heyst when she when she came when she came

595
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Speaker 5: over that curve. Yeah, when she came up that curve

596
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 5: by that one one fifty that one fifty one for

597
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 5: whatever whatever it may be, Man, that was that was

598
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 5: a wrap.

599
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: She she's a very unique athlete. She's got ranged from

600
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 4: one hundred to four hundred. She's world class all of them.

601
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Speaker 4: She's the ten nine one hundred meter runner, She's a

602
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: uh sub fifty second forty nine low four hundred meter runners.

603
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 4: She could improve on both of those. So she has

604
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 4: that perfect combination. She got long stride and two hundred. Yeah,

605
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: like Alison Felix. And yeah, and you know she was bronze.

606
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: Gaby was bronze in twenty twenty one at the last Olympics,

607
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 4: and and and this was the redemption and so yeah,

608
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 4: it was it was. It was great to see. It's

609
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 4: good to see her winning. It's good to see her

610
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Speaker 4: bringing come back to the US under two hundred two?

611
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Speaker 1: Mike, would you like to see her even though she

612
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Speaker 1: hasn't run, I would like to see her on the

613
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Speaker 1: four hundred. I think she should run a leg on

614
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Speaker 1: the four hundred meter relay, kind of like Alison Felix.

615
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Speaker 3: We know Alison, and yeah, she's.

616
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: Run on that four by one before she ran on the.

617
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: Fourth one, No run four. She's running both.

618
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's got on both and she's always in the

619
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Speaker 4: relay pool for both. So last year Budapest World Championshi

620
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 4: was I think she was on that four bout one

621
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Speaker 4: and four by four. I know in you twenty two

622
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: she was on both relays. Yeah, so she's gonna she's

623
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Speaker 4: put herself like an Alison Felix in the because she

624
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 4: runs the open Racers show. She ran one hundred meters

625
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: four hundred meters. She's run open four hundreds and one

626
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: hundreds against world class competition early in the season to

627
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 4: put her name in it. So you got like, like

628
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: Noah is talking about, you know, coming into these Olympics,

629
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Speaker 4: like he wanted to be on the four bout four.

630
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 4: It's like, no, you can't run any four hundred. That's nobody.

631
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Speaker 4: Nobody's gonna put you on the four bout four hundred

632
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: if you haven't gone out there and run against people

633
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 4: world class.

634
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Speaker 3: In the four hundred. What about Noah?

635
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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody was thinking about talking about Kashane, and

636
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: rightfully so he jumped out there. He ran ninety seven

637
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: seven at his trials and the only thing that I

638
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: had concerns about I've never seen him run like this

639
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: on a global stage. Running like this at your trials

640
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: are one thing, and we've seen guys, might guys at

641
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: men and women run great at their trials run great,

642
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: but when they get to that global stage, they don't perform.

643
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: Because the heaviest thing you can carry as an individual

644
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: athlete is expectations. The expectations what he had following you

645
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: saying boat, what he's done the world fastest times this year?

646
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: And no Allows says, sometimes you got to and that's

647
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: exactly what he did.

648
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: I think he needed to just get out with him here.

649
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: The reaction time was very close to k Shane Thompson,

650
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: and I felt if he could make him run because

651
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: nobody had made him run one hundred meters. Everybody was

652
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: out of the race at eighty meters, and he could

653
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: drop off the gas. Noah Allows and Fred Curly made

654
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: him run a full one hundred meet is we saw?

655
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: Now you exactly right? So what happened was and Kashane

656
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: is massive talent. I means huge talent. He is going

657
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: to be a force to be reckoned with, just because

658
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: he's still very young. This was his first championship ever

659
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: of any kind. He never been in a World championship

660
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: or any kind of Olympic Games, none of that. Never

661
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 4: done that, So that was my only concern with him

662
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: as well. I saw the nine seven seven. I saw

663
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 4: his other races and they were very impressive, very impressive.

664
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: So on paper, yeah, it looked like, yeah he should

665
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: he should win it, or he could win. But like

666
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 4: you said, Shanny, you got to come in here and

667
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: you got to actually do it. The issue for him,

668
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 4: I don't think it was so much the you know,

669
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 4: like the expectation of the pressure from the Jamaicans, you know,

670
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 4: which can be heavy, but they typically did. Jamaican athletes

671
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 4: typically handle pressure well. The coaches do a really good

672
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 4: job of bringing them up as young athletes, as juniors

673
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 4: and helping them to understand how to navigate the pressure

674
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 4: of a championship. Is shoe for Kashane was he had

675
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 4: never been pressured at the end of the race.

676
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: This race, he.

677
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 4: Was, but it wasn't by Noah because Noah was way

678
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 4: over on the other side of the t and you

679
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 4: could see what he could see was big Fred Curly

680
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: and Fred is big like Kashane. They both big dudes, right,

681
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: and that looming figure beside you right there with you

682
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: can possibly make you tighten up. He was, he was,

683
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 4: and he had a Connie Sambini from South Africa on

684
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 4: his other side, and Kanye had been running really really well.

685
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 4: Also at ninety meters eighty meters, both of those guys

686
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: are right there. So for the first time in his life,

687
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 4: he finds himself Kashane in an irate race. It's not

688
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 4: about now, it's not about it's not about execution of

689
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: your own race and all that. You find yourself in

690
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: a race, So what do you do in that moment,

691
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: at that point that eighty meters you are already running

692
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 4: as fast as you possibly can run. The only way

693
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 4: you can get yourself to that finish line quicker than

694
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: last twenty meters is to focus on maintaining form. And

695
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 4: what's gonna be is gonna be. That's a hard thing

696
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 4: to do because your instinct is run faster and hunk

697
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 4: her down. As soon as you do that, your body

698
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: tightens up. It tightens up, and that's exactly what happened

699
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: with him. You watch his nine seven seven flewid the

700
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: whole way. You watch that race the other night, last

701
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: twenty meters. He's here, you know, like a boxer, and

702
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 4: he's not just doing this thing, And meanwhile, you got

703
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: no over there just doing his tha the long life,

704
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: relaxed and running through the finish line and there you go.

705
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 1: It was kind of like Sha Carrie. If you remember

706
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: in the World Championship, Sha Carrie was in lane seven

707
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: and then you had although you had the Jamaican if

708
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: you had everybody bunch, and Sharika couldn't see your care

709
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: way outside in lane seventh and the next thing she knows,

710
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: she looks up like.

711
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: And she was way over at nine. Because the thing

712
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: is what happened was she ended up getting an atrocious

713
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: start in that semi final lim Budapest last year in

714
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: the World Championships, didn't get a great start that her

715
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: frequency was so inact. But what happened was, I'm gonna

716
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 4: tell you the truth, right in that race that semifinal,

717
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: she didn't get a great start, didn't and she carry

718
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 4: at that point had not proven herself to be a

719
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: real championship racer, to be able to to do what

720
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 4: Noah did. She had shown herself to be more like

721
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 4: what we saw in Kashane to tighten up a little

722
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 4: bit at the end, went under pressure right in that semifinal,

723
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 4: she tightened up and ended up having to qualify on time.

724
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: She wasn't an automatic qualifier to the final. She was

725
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: the last person again and they took. There was three semifinals,

726
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 4: they take the top two. She was third, so she

727
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: ends up having to wait for the other semifinals to

728
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: finish and finds that okay, I had one of the

729
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: fastest two losing times, which means I get in. She

730
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 4: gets in the final because she was had the slow

731
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 4: time in that semi final and finished her. She ends

732
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: up way over in lay nine and not in the heat.

733
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 4: That benefited her because she's over there, able to run

734
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 4: her own race, not coming to any pressure. When's the

735
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 4: World Championship. We all know Sha Carrie's fast. We all

736
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 4: know she's been fast. We all know that she's got

737
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 4: massive talent coming into this Olympics running fast times against

738
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 4: a lot of the Americans and everybody else. Get here. Look,

739
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 4: this is what happened. I'm just telling you the truths.

740
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 4: People can love Sha Carry, hate Sha Carry. You can

741
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: call me a hater for saying, but I'm just telling

742
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 4: you the truth of what is happening here. What happened

743
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 4: was in that race. She's now under pressure. She didn't

744
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: get a great start. She never gets grace to start,

745
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 4: and that's fine if you can then come through at

746
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: the end. But she got one of her worst starts,

747
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: one of the worst starts. Last just left in the blocks,

748
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: and now you're back in the race. You got to

749
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: get back in it, but now you under pressure because

750
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 4: Julian is gone, gone. Yes, right, but that never was

751
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 4: able to get back in it. But that race was

752
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 4: over before it starts. If you look at Sha carry

753
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 4: it out, and it was so surprising, even to me.

754
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 4: You look at her coming out before that race started,

755
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 4: and she looked scared. She did not look confident. She

756
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 4: did not look like she was like, I'm in champion,

757
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 4: you know, mindset, I'm about to go out here and

758
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: take what's mind And she just didn't look like that.

759
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: And and oh, Mike o'cho and I talked about it.

760
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: I said it, that's what I say, though, I say

761
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: she didn't seem like herself. Now, what role did the

762
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: warm up? Because it would be reported that the athletes

763
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: got that didn't ride the bus from the Olympic village

764
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: and had to go into a separate entrance. She had

765
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: that situation of Rise Shelley and Fraser Price had that issue.

766
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: So how much how leg of a difference did the

767
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: warm up? Did he properly warm.

768
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: Up from what I understand they what happened was they

769
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: have been going through They weren't staying at the village, right,

770
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 4: So there's some athletes that don't stay at the village.

771
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 4: I never stayed at the village. So you have your

772
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 4: own transportation, you're not riding the team bus, you have

773
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: your own car, drive, and all of that. I would

774
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 4: always have to go to the US team and say, Okay,

775
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 4: I'm not staying the village. I have my own car,

776
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 4: I have my own drive, I have my own stuff.

777
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: I need a pass to get through, right, So they

778
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: would give it to me, or they would say, okay, well,

779
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 4: if we can't give you a pass, you have to

780
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: meet us and then jump on the bus. But you

781
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: can come from your place, come to the village or

782
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: whatever would meet you and you get on and jump on.

783
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: They were getting through that gate for the first couple

784
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 4: of days, no problem, and then the next day they

785
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 4: I guess they clamped down and said, no, this is

786
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 4: not supposed to be happening. You can't come through this.

787
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 4: I've heard two different stories. I've heard that they had

788
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: to walk an hour, which I've only heard that from

789
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: a source that he wasn't really that reliable. The other

790
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 4: source I heard said, and what I've heard more consistently,

791
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 4: is there was another gate that wasn't that far down

792
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: that they did have to walk but it was just

793
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 4: on the other side of the warm up fair and

794
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 4: they had to walk down there and get in. So

795
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 4: and I've heard from very reliable sources that they had

796
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 4: all of the time they needed to walk up. That's

797
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 4: what I've heard, so I don't nothing official has come

798
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: out yet, but that's what has been reported, so I

799
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: don't think that that was an issue. The Jamaican camp

800
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 4: has reported that Shelley and Fraser Price did not drop

801
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 4: out of that semi final because of that. She dropped

802
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 4: out because she had been dealing with an injury and

803
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: a flare back up, and she had been dealing with

804
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 4: injuries earlier this season.

805
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: What about Srika? Why did Serika drop out? Has she

806
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: been dealing with injuries? Because it seemed like a lot

807
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: of the Jamaican women she hadn't run really great this year,

808
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: so has she been dealing with it?

809
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 4: She got injured actually in a track meet and stopped

810
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 4: on the track about three weeks before the game. So

811
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 4: it was always questionable coming into this whether she was

812
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: even it was just a matter of how serious that

813
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: injury was. And so first she gets here, they were

814
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 4: being very and a lot of the jama Con fans

815
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 4: are sort of upset right now because the coaches and

816
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 4: the team were being very, you know, sort of clandestine about,

817
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 4: you know, well, how serious is an injury. They want

818
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: to know. These are our athletes, We support them. They

819
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 4: want to know, you know, what's going to happen.

820
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: What can you know?

821
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: Don't get us getting our hopes built up if the

822
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: athlete is injured. They never really said, you know. And

823
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 4: then so she pulls out of one hundred, out of

824
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 4: the two hundred. The day before the one hundred, she

825
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: pulled out one hundred, said I'm just gonna run two hundred.

826
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna run the two hundred. She never said why,

827
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: and then so we all knew why. And then then

828
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 4: the day before the two hundred she pulls out of

829
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 4: that as well.

830
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: Right, Mike, handicap, handicap, this is two hundred meters. You

831
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: got Noahllows, who's the American record holder. You got Kung

832
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: Fu Kady who's run subten nine nineteen six. You have

833
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: Aaron knighton who's run a blister return. You have a

834
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: Tobogo the book Swana, who's run unbelievable hand to cap this?

835
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: Can we sweep the podium? Will we sweep the podium?

836
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna happen between Noah and Yeah?

837
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be left. Let's talk about silver

838
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 4: and brons because gold is gone. I mean, Noah's a

839
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 4: three time world champion. I mean, I you know, as

840
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 4: far as the one hundred, yeah, you know, he proved

841
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 4: himself right now. No, and that's a good thing about Noah.

842
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: You know, Noah doesn't have to prove anybody wrong. He

843
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 4: don't care about what everybody else think. He's gonna prove

844
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 4: that he's right. And that's what he did one hundred

845
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 4: where there was some doubts. I even had my doubts

846
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 4: at some points, but the two hundred meters, there is

847
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 4: no doubt. Anybody saying that Noah's not gonna win the

848
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 4: two hundred meters is an absolute certified hater and they

849
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 4: just don't want him to win. But they're still not

850
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 4: gonna get their way. Nobody in their right mind doing

851
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 4: true analytical analysis and handicapping of this race is going

852
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 4: to say that, No, it's not gonna win. He's a

853
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: three time world champion, he haven't lost him forever, so

854
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 4: he's gonna win it. I think behind him that's gonna

855
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 4: be a battle with Yeah, Kenny bedn rig Arian Knight

856
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 4: and you can. I mean, let's go Tobogo who was uh?

857
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: Uh?

858
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: Was he bronze?

859
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: He wrote the world record in the three hundred meters

860
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: and ran forty four low in the in the four

861
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: hundred meters?

862
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: That kid, unbelieved unbelievable, silver medalist in the one hundred

863
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 4: meters last year, bronze, uh, silver and uh and bronze

864
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 4: in the two hundred last year. So he's a he's

865
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 4: not a political kid. But he lost his mom uh

866
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 4: just four months ago? Uh did it back? Not even

867
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: in back in May. So really sad young kid though

868
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 4: great talent. He'll be in there. He was disappointed in

869
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 4: his uh in his one hundred meters where he finished

870
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: I believe fifth, But he'll be in there and uh

871
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: and then yeah and you got you got Kenny Arian. Yeah,

872
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 4: those guys are gonna be battling for for bronze and

873
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 4: silver and and the one person that you know just

874
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: just for just because Andre Degrass from from Canada. This

875
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 4: cat always finds his way in finals. He didn't for

876
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: the first time. He didn't make his way in that

877
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 4: one hundred meters final. But he always finds his way.

878
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: So just for good measure, put him in there as

879
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: somebody fault us. He might actually sneak up and get

880
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 4: a medal too. Let's handicap this.

881
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean, just what everybody's talking about the four hundred

882
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: meter hurdles. You got Allison Do Santo's, you got Carston, Walholme,

883
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: you got Roe Benjamin and on the women's side it's

884
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: a two. It's a two women race. It's famicable and

885
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: Sydney Bigelock. Let's take the men first. Rit's been running exceptional. Carston,

886
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: he hadn't been at the top like he normally is.

887
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: Do Santo's. We know he can go sub forty seven.

888
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: All these guys, what do you think the winning time

889
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: is gonna be? Are we on world record alert? In

890
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: the four hundred men and the men's four hundred meter?

891
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 4: I would never say nothing. I'm saying that this track

892
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 4: is ridiculous. It's it's even faster in the Tokyo track.

893
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 4: This this track really fast.

894
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 6: Yeah.

895
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a new it's a new type of server.

896
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: It's mondo, yeah, but it's fast. All the athletes have

897
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: been talking about it and they did some some some

898
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 4: different stuff anyway, So it's possible. It's absolutely possible because

899
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 4: those three guys are the best ever and they are

900
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 4: all coming right at the right time. Carston is having

901
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 4: a good season, but he's just not raced as much.

902
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 4: But he trains so in such a unique way that

903
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: he trains to be able to run the four hunchimeter

904
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 4: hurdles all out, which is just crazy. That's the way

905
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: they train, just so strong and it's all about strength.

906
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: So he's going to go from the gun and all that,

907
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 4: and he only knows one speed and only one way

908
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 4: to run, and that's all out record. Rye is a

909
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 4: sub twenty second two hundred meter runner, a sub ten

910
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 4: second one hundred meter runner, and a forty four low

911
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 4: four hundred meter runner, so he's got speed like nobody

912
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 4: else in that race. He's got way more speed than

913
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: Carston or Allison. But he hasn't in the years past

914
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 4: been able to struggle with a few injuries and then

915
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: hasn't been able to figure out how to use that

916
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 4: speed in the hurdles to be able to stay with Carston.

917
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: But I think he has now, So it's going to

918
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: be it's going to be a battle. That's going to

919
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 4: be a very interesting race. I think it could come

920
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: down to the wire with all three of those guys,

921
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 4: those Santos, all three of those guys aren't afraid to lose,

922
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 4: you know, they all go out there and put it

923
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 4: on the line. So yeah, that's going to be a

924
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 4: good one one on the web side. Look, man, you know, everybody,

925
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 4: you know. The thing about that is, you know it

926
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 4: is a rivalry because the very definition of a rivalry

927
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 4: is people competing against each other. They all want the

928
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 4: same thing and only one can win, and that is

929
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: this case. But it's not a back and forth rivalry.

930
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 4: Has never beaten Sydney. She won the world championship last year,

931
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 4: far square. She's an amazing athlete, but she hasn't beaten Sydney.

932
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: Wasn't there.

933
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 4: She's never beaten Sydney this year because having the season

934
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 4: of her life four one hundred meters indoor world record,

935
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 4: she's running some amazing times. You saw her run that

936
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 4: blistering leg on the four by four mixed for about

937
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 4: four on the second day of these these these Olympics,

938
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 4: and that was impressive. But you got to then look

939
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: at Sydney. Sidney's Sidney broke the world record again just

940
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 4: a couple of months ago. She ran coming into the

941
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 4: Olympic trials. Even after that, she had the second fast time,

942
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 4: second fast time in the world in the two hundred

943
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: two hundred flat. You know, I mean so so you know,

944
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 4: I don't see Sydney losing this unless she underperformed some

945
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 4: kind of way, which she typically just doesn't do. I

946
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 4: think Fimkah is the nearest challenger. That's why we talk

947
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 4: about Sidney versus Semka, because she is the nearest challenger.

948
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 4: I think it'll be Sydney and I think that Fimka.

949
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 4: The gap may be closer this year than it's been

950
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: in the past, but I think it's still gonna be

951
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: a gap, and then you're gonna have everybody else battling

952
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 4: for for third. But look, that's why we have the races.

953
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 4: You know. I come Binger Berenson was supposed to d

954
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 4: under fifteen hundred meters and no, that did not happen.

955
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: He ended up out of the medals and you got

956
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 4: Cole Hawker is the Olympic champion in the fifteen hundred.

957
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: Right, Hey, when you mentioned Ry the foot speed that

958
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: he has, and it seems like he's trained, he's changed

959
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: a little bit that he's not afraid now to drop

960
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: the hammer to go out. It's like, okay, catch me

961
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: instead of and because because he has that kind of

962
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: hundred meter speed, because he has that kind of su

963
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: two hundred meter speeds and the open four, like you said,

964
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: he's faster than all these guys at all three disciplines.

965
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: If you line them up one hundred meters, a two

966
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: hundred meters and an open four, Roy Benjamin will outrun

967
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: both guys Carsta Walholme and Yo Santos. Now it's if

968
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: you watch him now, Mike, he's he's running that race

969
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: a little different than what he has.

970
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: Ryan is smart enough to know that you can't just

971
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 4: use that speed any kind of way you want when

972
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: you got ten hurdles to clear. That could be a

973
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: detriment to you if you did the wrong way. And

974
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 4: he's been trying to figure out how to use it

975
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 4: in the right way. And I think he's I think

976
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: my senses that he's figured it out now. You know

977
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 4: his coaches Quincy Watts and Quinceland while of me a

978
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 4: couple of months ago that you know, it's.

979
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 3: A new Rye.

980
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 4: He's like, look this guy, he's he's he's. What he's

981
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 4: been seeing in practice indicates to him that Ryot is

982
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: going to be running some some some some special times

983
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 4: this year.

984
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: Mike, we're gonna get you out on this. You established

985
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: a new league Grand Slam Track. The league has said

986
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: the revolution out of the track world, with like tennis

987
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: golf schedule, four major championship Slams each year. Slams would

988
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: take place in four global cities, two domestic in the US,

989
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: two internationals. Starting in spring of twenty twenty five. Forty

990
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: eight of the fastest racers in the world would be

991
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: signed to compete in all four Slams. In the other

992
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: half field would be filled by challengers looking to prove,

993
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: oh I'm making a racer. What made what's what was

994
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: the concept behind this and what made you decide to

995
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: come up with your own track?

996
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: And you know, like what we're talking about in the

997
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: excitement that both of you guys, we both talked about

998
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 4: track before we all talk we we both talk about

999
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: track all the time. I talk to both of you

1000
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: guys over the years about track, and y'all are excited

1001
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 4: about it. You want to see, right, you want to

1002
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: see track. You see it during the Olympics. You get excited,

1003
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 4: and then the Olympics are over and it's like, I

1004
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 4: want to see some more track. You can't find it.

1005
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 4: It's out there, but it's fractured. It's not organized a scale.

1006
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 4: The athletes on organize that scale. The meets don't pay

1007
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 4: the athletes enough, so they don't really want to compete

1008
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 4: in those meets because it's not worth their while, right,

1009
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 4: they don't want to travel all the way to the

1010
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 4: other side of the world and hey, if I win,

1011
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 4: you're gonna pay me ten thousand dollars. These athletes, the

1012
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 4: best athletes in the world, do make good money. They

1013
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 4: just don't make the type of money they should be

1014
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: making because the sport isn't doesn't have enough visibility in

1015
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 4: those times in between the Olympic Games. So that's what

1016
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 4: Grand Slam track is about. So if you think about

1017
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 4: tennis every four years, you know you got your four

1018
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 4: Grand Slams Wimbledon, US Open, Australian Open, French Open. You

1019
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 4: know you got your four golf majors every year, and

1020
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 4: those are the ones that the best athletes want to

1021
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 4: be at and they want to compete there. It's big

1022
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 4: prize money, it's best of the best. Fans get into that,

1023
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 4: they know those athletes are going to be there. That's

1024
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 4: what we're doing with track, So the best of the

1025
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 4: best athletes, the best racers. We're not we're not doing

1026
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 4: field events. We don't we need to. We want to

1027
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: focus on just the racing. Who want to focus on

1028
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: just the fastest people and where we can storytell around

1029
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 4: that get people to understand who these athletes are. Like UFC,

1030
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 4: like WWE, like Formula One, like golf, like tennis, these

1031
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: athletes are the best. So when we organize them and

1032
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 4: next April when we start, you will be able to

1033
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: see the same sort of stories, the same sort of

1034
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 4: all of this stuff. We're talking about handicapping this race, Hey,

1035
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 4: what's going to happen in that race? That doesn't happen

1036
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 4: in track and field outside of the Olympics. But starting

1037
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 4: next year when we launch ground some track, it will

1038
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: who that's lying.

1039
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: Excited for you? I can't wait. Hopefully we can be

1040
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: a part of it.

1041
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: Anything that we can do as far as you know

1042
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: talking about it on Nightcap, we love.

1043
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 4: To we we got to get you guys in to

1044
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: the meet and and then and we will have a

1045
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 4: celebrity race too. So I need to see it.

1046
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: I know, challenge the meet to racist man.

1047
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 5: And like I said, hey, hey, Mike, whenever you read it, baby,

1048
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 5: one foot in front of the other, I'm gonna I'm

1049
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 5: gonna win.

1050
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: I got, I got two artificial helps, so both of

1051
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 3: y'all go past me. So I'm good.

1052
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: Mike handicapped this the four hundred meters we got Karanie James,

1053
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: he ran the fastest time. He ran forty three seventy eight,

1054
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: his fastest time since twenty sixteen. Matthew Hudson Smith, who

1055
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: has the world's fastest time this year. You mentioned Quincy Hall,

1056
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: you mentioned Michael Norman, who underperformed in Tokyo, and he's

1057
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: put together some races. He's run forty three four, but

1058
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, on the global stage, he has been

1059
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: unable to put it together.

1060
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 3: So if you had the handicap this for me four

1061
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: hundred meters, who you like.

1062
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 4: It's tough man, because if everybody ran their best, Michael

1063
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 4: Norman wins that race. He's fashion everybody else sub ten,

1064
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 4: sub twenty second hundred to some two hundred. But like

1065
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: you said, you look at his history, he underperforms more

1066
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: often than he reaches his potential. So and he didn't

1067
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 4: look in that semi final. He left it late.

1068
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: He did, he looked better. He looks like exactly. So

1069
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: he just goes like blank.

1070
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 4: Sometimes. Quincy is also his coach, and I've talked to

1071
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: Quincy about it, and Quincy tries to work with him,

1072
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 4: and it's just Michael's got to be able to focus

1073
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 4: in the race. But so so I would It'd be

1074
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: hard for me to say that he's gonna win it.

1075
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 4: He shouldn't medal, he should win it, But I'd say medal,

1076
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 4: I'd say right now, I would go Matthew Hudson Smith

1077
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 4: or Quincy Hall. Quincy Hall is a dog and Nick

1078
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 4: you're just man. He just and he's new to it

1079
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 4: techniques a little bit on at the docks, but I

1080
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 4: had on authodox technique. You know, it's like and I don't.

1081
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 4: He's he can clean it up a little bit at

1082
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 4: the end, but right now it's working. You know, just

1083
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 4: keep doing what you're doing. I wouldn't try to change

1084
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 4: this technique in the middle, so I would if I

1085
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 4: was gonna go out on a limb, I'd say those

1086
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 4: two are gonna be balanced. But Karani looks good and

1087
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 4: he got so much experience he got he already has

1088
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 4: any Olympics four hundred meter final. He's got a goal

1089
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 4: A and a BRONC goal, so he's gonna get another.

1090
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna get another one of them in

1091
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: this Olympics. So I think he's on the podium. But

1092
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a really good race. And

1093
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 4: that's what gets me excited. You know when it's you know,

1094
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,479
Speaker 4: not like that. You don't want to have these races

1095
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 4: where there's one clear person like way ahead and you

1096
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 4: know that they're gonna win and nobody's gonna touch him.

1097
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 4: Like I mean, Noah's rased like you interesting enough because

1098
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 4: it's no and he makes it interesting. But we already

1099
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 4: know who's gonna win that race. That's not as fun

1100
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 4: as this race where it's like if you race this

1101
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 4: race four or five times, you might get four or

1102
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 4: five different outcomes.

1103
00:52:54,520 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: Right, One last question, Mike, could you see us where

1104
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: Sydney wins the Olympic the four hundred meter hurdles, and

1105
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: Bobby says, okay, that's enough of that. We're gonna focus

1106
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 1: on taking down that thirty five forty year old record

1107
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: of Manarina Coke forty seven to sixty. Could you see

1108
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: a situation where where they focus and she goes from

1109
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: the four hundred meter hurdles to the open four hundred.

1110
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 4: I'm telling you that that is the situation. That is

1111
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 4: the situation, Sydney. The only reason Sydney's running four hundred

1112
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 4: meter hurdles this year at the Olympics is because she

1113
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 4: wants to put that world record so far out there.

1114
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 4: She knows that if she leaves that world record too soft,

1115
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: it's not soft, it's unbelievable, but she knows that Themka

1116
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 4: could possibly come and break it and then she'd have

1117
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 4: to come back into the event to try to keep that.

1118
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 4: So her position is, I'm gonna try to put it

1119
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: out there so far that then I can leave it

1120
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 4: and it's it's safe with Memas not gonna be able

1121
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: to go get it. Now, I'll go over here, and

1122
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 4: now I'll go over here and focus on this open

1123
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 4: four hundred, because remember last year she didn't run for

1124
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 4: the World Championships last year. She decided, I'm want to

1125
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: focus on the four hundred. That's what she did at

1126
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 4: the beginning of the season, but then decided to just

1127
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 4: shut it down for the season. So yeah, so I'm

1128
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 4: telling you, yeah, I do see that scenario. I think

1129
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 4: that's exactly what's going to happen. You know, she's a

1130
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 4: first Could you see her cliding grand some check. We

1131
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 4: already signed her. She was the first person we signed.

1132
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: And Josh Kirk, could you see her going sub fifty

1133
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 3: in the full end the hurdles.

1134
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 4: I think that's her goal. I think that's what she

1135
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 4: wants to do. This track is fast, and now it's

1136
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: just a matter of whether or not she can go

1137
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 4: out there and put it together. But I think then

1138
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 4: in her mind, yeah, she thinks that that's where she

1139
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: she can take this event.

1140
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: Well if she put that thing sub forty, So she

1141
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: goes sub fifty and the four hundred hurdles for the women,

1142
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: ain't nobody touching that anytime soon.

1143
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 4: I agree. I agree, Mike.

1144
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Bro, Hey, I really appreciate you taking time

1145
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: out of your day. Man.

1146
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 3: Like I said, Mike and I we go back a

1147
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 3: long low way.

1148
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: I used to see him all the time here and

1149
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: my boy Ray Crock are the best friends, and so

1150
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 1: he used to be in all the game and talking

1151
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: and so we it's great to catch up with you, Mike.

1152
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: We really appreciate nightcap. The fans are gonna love this interview. Man,

1153
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: thank you for your time. Enjoyed the recter the Olympics,

1154
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: and we'll see you in Aproyd.

1155
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 4: All right, thanks, Man, appreciate you. Shane, appreciate you. Ojoe, Yes, Jerry,

1156
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 4: all right, man.

1157
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: Guys, we really hope you enjoyed that interview. That was

1158
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: Michael Johnson. Yes, that interview was pre recorder. You have

1159
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: to realize there's a nine hour time difference between myself

1160
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 1: and Mike. There's a six hour time difference between Ocho

1161
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: and Mike. So we had to pre record that early

1162
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: in the morning. He was obligated, he's a BBC for

1163
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: him to take time out of his schedule to give

1164
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: us some insight and handicap some of these races and

1165
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: offer some insight because you're talking about one of the

1166
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: greatest sprinters of all time. He is the greatest four

1167
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: hundred meters sprinter in the history, and it's not even close.

1168
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: He held the world record at three different disciplines hundred meters,

1169
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: three hundred meters to four hundred. Now he still has

1170
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: the American record at three hundred meters and four hundred meters,

1171
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: and so for him to take time to give it

1172
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: with us, we greatly appreciate your time and patience.

1173
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 3: And we had a great time talking with Mike. Like

1174
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 3: I said, I've known Mike thirty years.

1175
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: Uh, and uh, we're glad we got some other Olympians

1176
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: that's gonna be joining the show tomorrow and I think Friday.

1177
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: So we got a couple of more Olympians, people that

1178
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: actually competed. You're not gonna tell them. You're not gonna

1179
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: tell you. I'm not gonna tell him afterward. They gotta

1180
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: wait and see.

1181
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, okay, yeah, So oh y'all.

1182
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna get right into it tonight. Well, like I said,

1183
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: hopefully you guys enjoyed in that interview. And again, oh

1184
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: cho and I we're gonna have I think tomorrow and Friday,

1185
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: we will have people that actually participated in the Olympics.

1186
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: So give you their forgive you their experience what it

1187
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: was like the electricity and the atmosphere of them winning.

1188
00:56:58,680 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: So thank you guys.

1189
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: Uh So, without any further ado, Oh Joe, we're gonna

1190
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: get right into our last segment of the night, and

1191
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: it's called Q and A.

1192
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 3: M hmmm, Uh, oh Joe, stand up.

1193
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: Stan asked the question, Uh, would you put Noah on

1194
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: the four by four for the four gold medals? No,

1195
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: because he can't outrun anybody that's in the medal pool.

1196
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: He didn't run any four hundreds. As why you heard

1197
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: Michael say Gabby has run four hundreds, Sidney has run

1198
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: four hundreds, so they put their name into the pool.

1199
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: Ry has run four hundreds.

1200
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 3: He hasn't.

1201
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: So who on that relay team? Is he gonna outrun Rye?

1202
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: Is he outrunn outrun Chris Bailey? Is he gonna outrun

1203
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: Quincy Hall? Is he out gonna run Ernie nor Wood?

1204
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: Is he gonna outrun dead Man?

1205
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 6: No?

1206
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: No, we're not No, it's not no. No, you don't

1207
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 3: get gifts here.

1208
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: If he wanted to be considered taking for the four

1209
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: hundred meter relay, he should have run.

1210
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 3: Some four hundredths, Oh Joe, to get those up under

1211
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 3: his belt, so he could have been entered into the pool.

1212
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: Right, That's how it works. That's how Alison Felix did it.

1213
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: That's how Abby Steiner did it. So yeah, that's that's

1214
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: how it works. But no, I don't I don't think

1215
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: he's I don't think he should and I don't think

1216
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: he will. Uh d Love said in Track and fee field,

1217
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: are those staggers starting positioning the two hundred, four hundred

1218
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: and eight hundred meter really the same distance for each runner?

1219
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: You do realize, like, yes, But the thing is with

1220
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: the eight hundred meters. While you start out, you only

1221
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: you and the four hundred and the two hundred, you

1222
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: have to stay in your lane all the way around.

1223
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: In the eight hundred meter, you start those staggers and

1224
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: then you get at a certain point you get to

1225
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: cross over, and then everybody's in the first two lanes basically.

1226
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, but they are if you have to stay

1227
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 3: in those all the way around, then absolutely are the

1228
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 3: same distance. Yeah, because you don't have I mean the bend.

1229
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: It's hard to win from lane one though, to win

1230
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: the two hundred because if you remember the Americans, the women,

1231
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: what was that was that real?

1232
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 3: Might have been real? Was it real? It might have

1233
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 3: been real? Ojo. We were won the four by one.

1234
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 3: The women from lane one. Remember they ended.

1235
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: Up the ladies knocked the baton out of Allison Felix

1236
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: and the exchange partner. They picked it up, finished, protested,

1237
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: they had to run by themselves. They qualified, They got

1238
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: lane one and ended up running and winning the gold

1239
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: medal from laye one.

1240
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 3: That was that was real twenty sixteen.

1241
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 7: Yeah they got out bright Yeah yeah.

1242
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: Keimper Norwood Jr. Said Oh do you think I could

1243
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: beat Ojo in AE hundred meter dash?

1244
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, stop playing, man, Ojo, Let me tell you something.

1245
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 3: Pull them on.

1246
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 7: I still training like I'm playing. I ain't pulling nothing.

1247
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: Told the people yesterday, oh Joe, ain't nothing, do nothing

1248
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: get you ready to play football?

1249
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: But playing football? Right?

1250
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 4: So?

1251
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 3: What you not soccer.

1252
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 4: For next season?

1253
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 7: Matter of fact? Hat Listen, half of the people competing

1254
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 7: in Paris can't even beat me running right now? Honestly,

1255
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 7: who who?

1256
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: If you can? Who you can hear you must be

1257
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 3: talking about.

1258
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: You must be talking about the people that check it out,

1259
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: making sure they light their hands behind the line.

1260
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: Those are the older people. Those are the older people

1261
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 3: that can't outrun you.

1262
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 7: Hey, we'll see watch what happened on Quincy? When Quincy

1263
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 7: come down here?

1264
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: Uh, let's talk sports? Three thousand said, is it is

1265
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: it hard talking about the same subjects in different environments?

1266
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: And have you ever slipped up?

1267
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 3: Mmm?

1268
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 7: What do you mean slipped up?

1269
01:00:54,840 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 3: I guess, uh say ninja? Uh yeah, I mean.

1270
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 5: Look, if I say I can, I changed completely from

1271
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 5: from I am on Hill the inside NFL, I'd be

1272
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 5: a completely different person, talk different.

1273
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the accent is gone. Yeah, I think yeah, for sure,

1274
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm I got ESPN Shannon, I got

1275
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: night Cap Shannon. Night Cap Shannon is totally different than

1276
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: anything that's on television for sure. That's one thousand, and

1277
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: He's totally different from Club Shay Shane. Shannon is an

1278
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: entity like this, night Cap Shannon is only for Nightcap.

1279
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 3: That's it.

1280
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: Hey, he gets hung up in the closet until it's

1281
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: time for him to come out again tomorrow.

1282
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 3: That's it.

1283
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, but it's it's uh. You look, if you

1284
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: on TV long enough, you're gonna have a mishap. You

1285
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: will say issue and you gonna say add. So you're

1286
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: gonna say something you I said F I said if

1287
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: I've said f on on on Undisputed before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so so this me, this is a combination of like.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like Nightcap, but this is more like in

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Speaker 1: the locker room in to Battle State, in Different in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: at the barbershop when I'm with my boys, if you

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Speaker 1: were like with Privy, I mean all the guys like

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Speaker 1: Rod Smith and all the guys that I played with

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Speaker 1: and different like he liked this every day, I mean

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Speaker 1: everything to what you hear him saying, he said that

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Speaker 1: now I just get I just get paid. I just

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Speaker 1: get paid to you know, I had a job on

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Speaker 1: on Undisputed. They paid me for all the look the

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Speaker 1: quick went first take now pays me for. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is a I'm a totally different this person that

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Speaker 1: you see that's talking to you right now. He don't

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Speaker 1: come out only on night cap. Yeah you're vampire o Jo.

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Speaker 1: You only come out at night That's it.

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Speaker 3: Day, said Chad.

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Speaker 1: Just to let you know, shave by Laportier is top tier,

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Speaker 1: best Kangjac out there. Had a bottle last week. Amazing,

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Speaker 1: Just letting you know, Derek, I appreciate the support, bro,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I really really appreciate that. Ron

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Speaker 1: DeVos Uh, it really brings back some PTSD here and

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Speaker 1: O Jr. Mentioned cl final between Liverpool and Real Madrid.

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Speaker 1: Sergio or Ramos and his dirty plays are the only

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Speaker 1: reason Madrid won all won it all? Oh Yo, what

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Speaker 1: you say about that?

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Speaker 7: I mean he's probably right, He's probably right.

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Speaker 5: Listen, Real Madrid has some type of voodoo that they

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Speaker 5: always have and find towards the end of games almost

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Speaker 5: similar to give you better context, like throwing a hell.

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Speaker 7: Mary with two seconds on the clock.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they scoring at the last minute when it

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Speaker 5: matters most every time.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you're wrong, Kamani love the show today, it's my birthday.

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Speaker 1: Me and my girlfriend are watching. Well, would also be

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Speaker 1: seeing you, hope in Atlanta. Hopefully you guys still going

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Speaker 1: to Magic City.

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Speaker 7: I don't know where you're going.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be there.

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to see what these wings. I'm trying to

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Speaker 7: see what these wings hitting on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to say I will keep on tipping

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Speaker 1: the sippings, see what we can do. Okay, the top

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Speaker 1: twenty for the bottom is all to get those you

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Speaker 1: know things to fall. You know what I'm saying, what

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Speaker 1: time of them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? You ain't going nowhere?

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, Hey, madame. Are you are you know listen,

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Speaker 5: didn't even waste for me to invite them. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: are y'all going on tour? Okay, I'm coming to what

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Speaker 5: I ain't even invite you yet.

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Speaker 3: Talk about?

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm going. I know you're trying to go

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Speaker 7: to Magic City. I'll be there. Wait a minute, like

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Speaker 7: how you know, uncle, want to show me around? You

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Speaker 7: You trying to be my chaperone?

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no a rail bait?

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Speaker 7: You know, baby, Now, we don't need no bait. Hey,

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Speaker 7: we've been fishing for thirty years. We don't need no baby.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Real real that rail the baby, real, the cute little

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Speaker 1: you know when you walk, you got a little cool

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Speaker 1: little plelly doll.

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Speaker 3: Oh quet up here they are, but they gonna na real.

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Speaker 3: Who is that?

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Speaker 7: That's my uncle, man, I'm the match maker, man, I

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Speaker 7: got you.

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Speaker 3: Everybody need a ring woman. You know you got a

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Speaker 3: ring man. I got a wing woman.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no no, because she's gonna have you at

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Speaker 7: the wrong people.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 7: That decision making it ain't nah.

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Speaker 3: A real Let's play a shot, uncle and nice. That's

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Speaker 3: my uncle. That's a good one. That's a good one.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one. Oh Joe, that's my uncle. He's

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Speaker 3: shadow you know.

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Speaker 1: You know he ain't really been out, he ain't been

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Speaker 1: on a dating a long time, but he really shy

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Speaker 1: harmless though.

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Speaker 7: That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Uh Nigga Grant said, today's my birthday and as a gift,

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Speaker 1: can chafford tell me tell the truth for one whole day?

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Speaker 3: And Shannon no notes, change nothing, love y'all, No, no,

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Speaker 3: what she wanted. She wants for her birthday. Her gift

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Speaker 3: is that you tell the truth the whole day.

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Speaker 7: Well, hell I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't lie.

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Speaker 5: Anything I talk about on Nightcap is about personal experience

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01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 5: through my lifetime. You have to understand, I've been doing

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Speaker 5: this fifty six years. I've done everything that we've talked about,

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Speaker 5: and that's what that's what people fail to realize. I've

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Speaker 5: done and experience everything. I've traveled the world. I've been

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Speaker 5: through all types of all types of different things that

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Speaker 5: people don't even know. You know, I've done trades and

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01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 5: done all types of stuff. So it's good for me

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Speaker 5: to have this platform to kind of share with y'all

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01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 5: because you only see me as a former football player,

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Speaker 5: not realizing I've lived I've lived two three lives already,

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Speaker 5: So nothing I've ever I might exaggerate a little bit,

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Speaker 5: I might exaggerate a little bit.

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Speaker 7: But everything I talk about I've done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that what we do.

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Speaker 1: So Nicki, happy birthday, Happy birthday, and hopefully you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the day, did something special, had a lot to eat,

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Speaker 1: got some good food, hung out with some family and

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Speaker 1: friends and loved ones. And so thank you for Nikki,

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Speaker 1: for always You've been great. Nicki was probably probably one

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Speaker 1: of our first five. She had to be like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if she was first, but she had to

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Speaker 1: be top five for sure. And you want us to

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Speaker 1: go ahead and Nikki, you want them to know Nicki

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Speaker 1: is now an official member at shay Shape Media. We

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Speaker 1: just hired Nikki. Hey, congratulations, So Nicki is officially on

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Speaker 1: the payroll.

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Speaker 3: Damn, how much you gotta pay? Now? How about y'all?

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Speaker 3: How much? Oh these are? How about y'all?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: How much is my bill? He went up with up

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Speaker 3: some more?

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Speaker 1: Damn I'm probably not about three hundred fifty thousand now,

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Speaker 1: huh three twenty five?

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Speaker 3: Damn?

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all better hurry up. I ain't paying no

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Speaker 1: more than five hundred. I got five hundred. Y'all been

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Speaker 1: trying to break a world ricking. After five hundred, you

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Speaker 1: out of gas.

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. Yeah bad.

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Speaker 1: Uh. We've had a couple of people, mean Shannon, Adrian,

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Speaker 1: he runs Shannon Sharp, burner account.

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Speaker 7: He works he that at Burner count funny brother, he

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Speaker 7: worked for us.

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Speaker 1: Uh and now NICKI so uh, Nicky has been great,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, she's been great. Adrian is great. He

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Speaker 1: was my burn account and so you never know, guys,

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01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: you never know. I like I like, you know, helping people.

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01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: I like people that want to see Chase shed media grow.

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01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: I like people to have a vested interest. And that's

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Speaker 1: that's gonna work hard. And we understand we do one

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Speaker 1: thing here.

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Speaker 3: We work. Yeah, there ain't nowhere around it. We work here.

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Speaker 1: And so congratulations Nikki, well deserved, well earned. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: all your support that you've given us. Thank you guys

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01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: for tuning in. Hopefully you enjoyed the Michael Johnson interview.

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Speaker 3: Mike was great.

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01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: Like I said, I've known it for so many years.

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01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: And what better way you talk about one of the

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Speaker 1: most distinguished sprinters in all in all in history. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: the greatest four hundred meter runner in the history and

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Speaker 1: it's not even close. So thank you, Mike. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate that we got a special guest for you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you tune in tomorrow. H thank you you

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01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I

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Speaker 1: am your favorite on Shannon Sharp, He's your favorite, Number

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Speaker 1: eighty five, The rock Runner Extraordinary, the Bengal Ring of Fame, Artery,

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowler, the all pro Liberty Cities Own that's

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Speaker 1: Chad o Cho Senko Johnson.

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Speaker 1: two weeks. Again, thank you Mike for joining us. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed the conversation. I'm uh, he's ocho. We're back tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: We're out.