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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast can't handle their kombucha. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room failed with some heroes. Mark Cussler to my left,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal on my ride. What's up boys? Hey? Now,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be my new catchphrase that you like. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's been used, I feel like. But if you

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Speaker 1: tread on its. Hey now, um, what I wanted to

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Speaker 1: say to you, Greg, was that these glasses you're wearing, yeah,

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Speaker 1: kind of remind me of Richard Gear from Unfaithful. Is that? Uh,

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Speaker 1: I'll take that as a compliment. I like middle aged

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Speaker 1: women everywhere just getting excited thinking about me, like a

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Speaker 1: sensitive West Westchester art dealer who looks like he has

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Speaker 1: the perfect life, but if you look just a little

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Speaker 1: bit closer, it's all falling apart. That's kind of the

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Speaker 1: vibe you give off with his glasses. I'll take that.

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Speaker 1: I mean to live in Westchester. It's more just like

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Speaker 1: of somber day at the office, somber alright, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: hasn't been a great week. He has been a great week.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna get into it has not been the

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Speaker 1: best week. Uh. One thing that we we will touch

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Speaker 1: down here is West. His chair is empty to the

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Speaker 1: left right now. He went through his surgery on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and everything is is going well. He's in recovery right now,

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Speaker 1: and we're actually three of us are going to go

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Speaker 1: to do that and see West as he begins the

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Speaker 1: next stage and his uh uh fight against cancer that

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Speaker 1: was obliterated. Uh and hopefully it is now a complete

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Speaker 1: thing of the past. So um, shout out to our

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Speaker 1: the great Chris Westling. I'm hoping to get some hospital

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Speaker 1: food all him there not eating a lot of food today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if the food there didn't

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Speaker 1: wasn't getting great reviews. West was very excited though, uh

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Speaker 1: after a couple of days. I don't think he would

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Speaker 1: try to sugarcoat this is a This was a serious

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Speaker 1: recovery from it. But he was singing the praises of

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Speaker 1: his doctor for really standing up to what he felt

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Speaker 1: was an armada of non thinking nurses who were not

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Speaker 1: allowing him to swallow the ice chips. And some doctor

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Speaker 1: was talking about this doctor like, uh, like a war hero. Interesting,

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Speaker 1: like I do remember both of my wife's um pregnancias.

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Speaker 1: And then when the baby came that ice chips were

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Speaker 1: like high up on the list. Oh, you're constantly as

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Speaker 1: the husband, You're going down the hall in those big

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Speaker 1: pink cups to get the ice chips to bring back

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Speaker 1: for various reasons. Yeah, this will and I'm very lucky

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Speaker 1: Hospitals are weird, not my favorite place in the world.

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Speaker 1: But to see West, it's worth, you know, going over there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about it more on the ice Chips

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Speaker 1: podcast coming up Save It Summer. Say. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: low down the vanity pod list save for the unfaithful

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Speaker 1: podcasts and for the Ice Chips podcast. Today's show, UH

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Speaker 1: is a good one, presented of course by our friends

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Speaker 1: at new era. Uh. We are going to get into

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Speaker 1: some preseason football games that occurred on Thursday. Uh, just

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Speaker 1: like some takeaways, um, including of course more trouble in Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: trouble that they have. You know, we'll get into it,

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Speaker 1: but trouble that Jacksonville should have seen coming. And now

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Speaker 1: it's the chickens are coming home to roost as it were.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what's happened. Also, Hey, big eclipse coming coming

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Speaker 1: in the NFL is getting eclipsed. M that's a way

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Speaker 1: to tie you in the cosmos with uh. You know

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Speaker 1: And we we won best that you know what we

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Speaker 1: forget about. We won Best of iTunes, Best New Podcast.

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Speaker 1: think we won the Stitcher in thirteen. Now it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a driving Awards shelf has failed to

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Speaker 1: grow at such a pace since. Um anyway, I can't

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Speaker 1: remember what my point is, but oh yeah, the fact

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Speaker 1: know what else? I was thinking, not to get ahead

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Speaker 1: the other thing we could do, if the thirty first

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Speaker 1: or Treat and then another segment on another show fifty

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Speaker 1: minutes on it spookiest subplots in the NFL. You have

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Speaker 1: to get ahead of these things. Last year and no

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Speaker 1: one else copied us on this, we did our Halloween

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Speaker 1: video special in early September, threw some people for a loop.

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Speaker 1: did our Halloween special in September. Okay, anyway, but I'm

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Speaker 1: the glass. You know, she's making waves, She's making a

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Speaker 1: getting her? Are you? Guys? What a statement short on

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Speaker 1: We saw last night where Allen Robinson gets open between

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Speaker 1: And this is not second guessing. This was first guessing

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Speaker 1: you know I love Justin Tucker as a player. I'm

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Speaker 1: very confident that the UH Ravens will win a host

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Speaker 1: of eighteen sixteen games with Tucker just going nuts week

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Speaker 1: after week. He's the bizarro Iguayo. UH. You can always

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Speaker 1: count on him. He did something very interesting though, I

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Speaker 1: thought in UH Thursday's preseason game where he attempted to

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Speaker 1: UH he had a kickoff that was fumbled by a

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Speaker 1: Dolphin special teamer and he attended intend instead of falling

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Speaker 1: on it because he ended up in the neighborhood of

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Speaker 1: the ball. He tried to scoop and score. And the

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Speaker 1: reason this is interesting is if you follow Justin Tucker's career,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of it's kind of a bro He's kind

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Speaker 1: of like a kicker that's got a bit of an

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Speaker 1: attitude to him. He's like the bos of kickers on

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Speaker 1: some level, uh in the way he carries himself. And

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Speaker 1: the reason I bring this up is they asked him

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Speaker 1: about his decision to try to scoop and score. He

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Speaker 1: was pile drive by a pound defensive defensive tackle while

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Speaker 1: making the play, which I'm sure the coaching Steph didn't love.

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Speaker 1: But this is what Justin Tucker had to say. I

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Speaker 1: don't ever let anybody put that evil on me as

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Speaker 1: saying something as audacious as kickers aren't football players. In

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Speaker 1: a game where points win, you're leading score is probably

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Speaker 1: going to be your kicker. And I'm literally doing the

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Speaker 1: most football thing in football. I'll leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: The tag, I'll leave it at that takes it to

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Speaker 1: the next level. Thoughts, Well, I think he's probably the

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Speaker 1: most valuable player and he's probably going to not only

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Speaker 1: lead them in scoring, but to an incredible in terms

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Speaker 1: of percentage of points score. It could be an incredible

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Speaker 1: With Flacco out, he may have to do he may

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Speaker 1: have to score some touchdown. That's not what I was asking.

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Speaker 1: By the way, what are you asking about his attitude?

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Speaker 1: Don't run from the question mark you you you labeled

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Speaker 1: him as sort of browish, and it does. It did

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Speaker 1: come across a little browish, But I'm not surprised he

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Speaker 1: said have a bunch of those players he doesn't want

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Speaker 1: anyone to put that evil on him, right, that kickers

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Speaker 1: aren't real athletes. But who was meeting him on the

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Speaker 1: sideline immediately after this play, essentially openly mocking him was

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Speaker 1: Terrell Sucks. And I don't think he was saying anything

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Speaker 1: much back to Tharrell sucks, and Arrell Sucks can put

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Speaker 1: that evil on him. Sucks a great guy. This does.

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Speaker 1: This does tie into you know, keep an eye on kickers,

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Speaker 1: especially ones that have some success. Remember Matt Prater at

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a few weeks ago, a few years back,

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Speaker 1: where he was like he had a big diamond studded

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Speaker 1: in his ear and he was like showing up, or

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Speaker 1: he was basically they put him in that pen on

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Speaker 1: media day. Remember I don't think they really do it anymore,

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Speaker 1: but they used to put like the non star guys

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Speaker 1: and the special teamers and like a pen that they

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Speaker 1: couldn't escape. And anyway, Matt prateror was like pretending to

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Speaker 1: lean in to talk to reporters and then ducking his

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Speaker 1: head out and like like with a smug smile, like

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Speaker 1: you know, he was going full Prater and he's been

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Speaker 1: on your radar since that. Yeah, that was a huge

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Speaker 1: subplot for you you. Yeah, you were, you were. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've had a number of Super Bowl encounters with their

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Speaker 1: variety of players, but that was the top five. You've

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Speaker 1: had a connor or length grudge here. I just thought, like,

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Speaker 1: I'll I'll borrow the word the Tucker used. That was

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Speaker 1: an audacious move by Matt Prator to be big timing

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Speaker 1: reporters at media day. I thought, that's all I can't

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Speaker 1: argue with that. Don't put that evil on me. Matt

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Speaker 1: Prador about that. Finally in the news, Uh, he's like,

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Speaker 1: if anyone gets back to him on this, and like,

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Speaker 1: what what? Zero memory of the way? Anyway, Finally in

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Speaker 1: the news, I thought this was cute, guys. Um, because

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Speaker 1: football is fun, Football's family. It's very important to keep

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Speaker 1: that in mind. And uh, did you know that the

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Speaker 1: Titans a decision made by head coach Mike Malarkey, um,

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Speaker 1: have decided to reschedule their practice on Monday. And do

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Speaker 1: you know why? You do know? But pretend you don't know,

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Speaker 1: I Dan, why don't you tell us? Because Nashville is

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Speaker 1: the biggest um North American or at least I should

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Speaker 1: say American city in the path of a full solar

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Speaker 1: eclipse total solar eclipse? So what did uh? What did

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Speaker 1: Malarkey do? He changed the schedule so they'd be on

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Speaker 1: the field when the eclipse happens at one pm Central

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Speaker 1: Time on Monday. He's gonna stop practice and they're all

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Speaker 1: gonna watch this, uh together. It has not happened. Give it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm curious, first of all, if you guys

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Speaker 1: read the end around. Second, if you can come closest,

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Speaker 1: when was the last time a full solar eclipse took place?

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Speaker 1: What you think it was about a hundred years ago?

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Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken you. I heard this on children's

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Speaker 1: podcast that my daughter forces me to listen to those

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Speaker 1: exist on the way back from Swien. It's super educational,

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Speaker 1: so I can't hold it against here, but I think

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Speaker 1: it was like nineteen twenty nine or something like that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine is the year off that'sh the so

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee capital is the largest city in its path. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And Malarkey had this to say, I actually did change

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Speaker 1: the schedule. I adjusted the schedule so we will be

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Speaker 1: practicing during it. I went back once we found out

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Speaker 1: about it and rerouted the schedule, so we're all out

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Speaker 1: here together to see it. That's a nice job. Malarkey

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Speaker 1: who's been blind for being sort of a dull individual.

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Speaker 1: Uh well, I think he goes against that type right

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Speaker 1: here exciting. It's kind of like it's there are all,

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Speaker 1: there are so many hey kids, let's go to the

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Speaker 1: science fair. Well, you know, Greg, your daughter, you know,

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Speaker 1: begging to learn in the car on the ride home,

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Speaker 1: and she's having you know, please daddy, let me learn things.

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Speaker 1: But like, no, let's listen to the Lord again. All

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Speaker 1: I'd say, there are so many cheesy team building uh

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Speaker 1: levers you can pull that we hear about. Oh, coach

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Speaker 1: X took the team bowling. Oh yeah, we've heard that

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Speaker 1: four thousand times. This at least is highly original. You're

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Speaker 1: going to sit out the entire Titans roster to stare

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Speaker 1: at in the clipse. I mean, you know, please have

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Speaker 1: the proper eye wear. But this, this to me, is

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Speaker 1: a whole new way to travel. If they land in

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Speaker 1: un mass on injured reserve, blinding themselves, big problem eighty

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Speaker 1: nine deep retinal injuries, Daddy, please teach me about life

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Speaker 1: on this car right, Um, No, listen to a kid's

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Speaker 1: podcast click educational. You missed talking. That's what she won

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Speaker 1: the opposite, I say no, can we listen to the mute?

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Speaker 1: Can we listen to music? She's so we negotiated. On

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Speaker 1: the way there, we listened to Daddy's music. On the

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Speaker 1: way back, we listened to does she call it a

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Speaker 1: wow in the world? Wow in the world is that

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Speaker 1: it's called? It's like sciences. You know, I've learned some

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Speaker 1: things from I'll get my kids involved with that podcast.

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Speaker 1: of the pod? Like that? Could we should get some music?

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Speaker 1: I would love to do that, Little Bonnie Tyler, will

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Speaker 1: we get something like give me? Yeah? Maybe we could

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Speaker 1: work on that. Erica, can you add in post? We

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Speaker 1: won't even hear it, but something that's similar to Bonnie

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Speaker 1: Tyler's total Eclipse of the Heart. Okay, good, um, who

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Speaker 1: is getting eclipsed in the NFL? Right now? What does

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Speaker 1: eclipse mean? Mark? Well, I mean, I mean there's a

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Speaker 1: number of meanings, but I would say, outshine that whatever

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Speaker 1: position you have, Yeah, you're out, you're out, You're blocked.

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Speaker 1: You're blocked out, blotted out. You were there and then

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Speaker 1: something comes along to just block you. No one's easy,

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Speaker 1: no sunlight touching you anymore, Sunshine removed, steal my sunshine,

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Speaker 1: don't ever do it. Remember the old short story about

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Speaker 1: the girl who lived in a land where there was

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Speaker 1: no sunshine. Ever, it only reigned. And then one day

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Speaker 1: the other students locked her in the closet because they

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Speaker 1: were mean. And while she was locked in the closet,

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Speaker 1: it was the one day of sunshine in like a

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Speaker 1: hundred years, and they left her in there. She missed it.

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Speaker 1: That was like an R. Kelly video or locked in

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Speaker 1: a closet, Trapped in a closet, nobody. That doesn't ring

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Speaker 1: it time to start writing children's novels. If that's what

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Speaker 1: the plots are, I mean, we could come up with

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Speaker 1: a lot of that. If anyone knows that I'm talking about,

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Speaker 1: please hit me up on Twitter because that was something

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Speaker 1: that I read as a child and it did affect

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Speaker 1: me just in the callousness of the children. Pretty dark. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: who is getting eclipsed? Mark? You get us going? I

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Speaker 1: will keep this one. I'll keep this brief because I

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Speaker 1: think we touched on it, so not to believe o

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Speaker 1: the point, but connecting the dots from what's happening already

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Speaker 1: with the Jaguar season. You know, David Caldwell has been

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Speaker 1: given the chance in Jacksonville for a long long time

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Speaker 1: to build a roster that by all accounts, we look

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Speaker 1: at that roster and we say there is a lot

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Speaker 1: of talent here and maybe it comes together on defense.

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Speaker 1: But now you have two new figures in Tom Coughlin

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Speaker 1: and and your coach Doug Marone that are saddled at

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Speaker 1: Greg you mentioned it could be a lost year because

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Speaker 1: you're saddled with this quarterback situation, and this is the

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Speaker 1: quarterback that when you're a GM and you and you

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Speaker 1: make a move in some people's mind to overdraft Blake

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Speaker 1: Borders where he was drafted in that he better succeed

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Speaker 1: and if he doesn't most GMS understand the understand this.

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Speaker 1: Jason Light said it on Hard Knocks. We've all lost jobs.

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Speaker 1: You if your quarterback does not work out, if it's

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Speaker 1: the opposite of say a Jamis Winston, you encounter trouble.

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Speaker 1: And I think David Caldwell is in a tough situation

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Speaker 1: already in that building because people are wondering, wait, isn't

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Speaker 1: it Tom Coughlin pulling the levers here? And he's picked

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Speaker 1: Doug Marone, who is also an authoritarian type figure, to

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Speaker 1: kind of preach his message and get tougher and turn

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars from what they were into a run first,

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Speaker 1: you know, ground and pound type team. And David Caldwell,

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Speaker 1: you know, not that he is the talented guy. He's

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Speaker 1: picked good players, but he feels like an odd man

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Speaker 1: out here. If the quarterback situation is one where the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars had to completely restart over at that position, potentially

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Speaker 1: setting the team back where they were four or five

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Speaker 1: years ago, I think that um certainly there was a

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Speaker 1: time where that pick looked good. The Blake Portles pick.

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Speaker 1: Now it does not look good at all. But David

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Speaker 1: Caldwell has no one to blame but himself. Unless Tom Coughlin,

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Speaker 1: who outranks him. Um said, hey, role with Chad Henny.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any sympathy for the Jaguars because it's

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Speaker 1: the same stuff over and over with them, and and

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Speaker 1: just think this was happening again where people are starting

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Speaker 1: to get amped up and excited about the Jags and

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Speaker 1: their defense was very good last year and there are skilled,

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Speaker 1: skilled players on offense, but they did this to themselves.

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Speaker 1: And like when if they go for and twelve again

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Speaker 1: because they have terrible quarterback play, Like that's that shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be a surprise. This is what happens to Blake Bortles

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Speaker 1: was giving you all the warning signs that this was

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Speaker 1: what was gonna happen. This was actually, uh the one

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Speaker 1: I was gonna talk about two, uh, Mark, But someone

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Speaker 1: had to step in and say we need to bring

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Speaker 1: someone else in here and not just retain Chad Henny,

639
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: and no one ever did it. I find it awkward

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Speaker 1: that Tom Coughlin is the one being interviewed, you know,

641
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: by ESPN, like before the game, that he the jokes

642
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: are so easy that like Cofflin's gonna be down there

643
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: coaching by week six. I found it interesting, Uh, Chris Wessling.

644
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's recovering from surgery and what did

645
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: the Jaguars do but put this awful football in front

646
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: of him? He made he made the observation we had

647
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: the game on. He made the observation that Gruden right

648
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: off the bat was saying, even before the game started

649
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: that they should be playing Chad Henny instead of Blake Bortles.

650
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: And you start to wonder, you know, Gruden talks to

651
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: these coaches, you start to wonder, like, are these coaches

652
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: or Cofflin or whoever. It is like Gruden just coming

653
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: out strong that they need to bench Blake Bortles. And

654
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: then by the end of the game he is bench that,

655
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: Like it just seems like these guys are done with them.

656
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 1: That wouldn't surprise me. Um alright, Eclipse more Eclipse talk.

657
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: Dan is just absolutely sold on this segment. I was

658
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: gonna go, yeah, I was gonna go with Colin Kaepernick's

659
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: civil liberties being eclips by the system to preachy to preachy,

660
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna go with the Around the NFL podcast

661
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: being eclipsed by the Throwback podcast. Every Thursday's new episode,

662
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: new one coming up next week. This week, Kings of

663
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: Leon and has shake Hard break. Well, it might be

664
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Speaker 1: your only podcast soon enough, so great, it's a great show.

665
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: You know. Eclipse in this podcast feels like a stretch,

666
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: not true. It's just not true, Um Sully. Eclipse by

667
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: Tamposey feels like too soon, too soon. I don't want

668
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Speaker 1: to go that way. And then I was gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about the Jaguars, but Mark just did it, so I'm out.

670
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm fresh out. I mean, I shared my on our

671
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: on our you know, I am client inside the building,

672
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm just trying to get to the weekend. Buddy,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get weekend. Uh no, you're up, Greg, Well,

674
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Speaker 1: I'm trying. I was trying to think the ones that

675
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: weren't so obvious. You know, we've talked so much about

676
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon sounded like Paxson Lynch had a good week

677
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: of practice. Tavon Austin, we know he's been Eclipse, so

678
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: let's let's get a little more bold in Eclipse, no

679
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: one saw coming, and it happens to you. Happen to

680
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: get the best view in Nashville. It isn't Nashville. I've

681
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: been watching Derrick Henry A little bit in the preseason.

682
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: De Marco Murray's out there, he's been a little banged

683
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: up in the preseason. Derrick Henry to me, is a

684
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: fun running back who really leans on that those defenders

685
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: and it's tough to take down. I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 1: necessarily gonna it's not gonna be a full eclipse this season,

687
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Speaker 1: but how about a little bit of a partial eclipse

688
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: of DeMarco Murray and his fantasy value this season? And then, uh,

689
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: you know, as we're looking towards the future that becomes

690
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: a full eclipse that that moon keeps moving. I'm really

691
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: pushing your bit here. What about David Flewellen? Where does

692
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Speaker 1: he fit into this solar? You love flew Ellen. He's uh,

693
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: he's a little he's a little dust. So how do

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Speaker 1: you how do you see a breaking down a you're

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00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: talking like at fifty type split, which I think that

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Speaker 1: would be a drastic Yeah. I think I think that

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00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: Henry ends up getting way more of a role. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe Murray just stays hurt or he

699
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: has an injury prone season, and Henry is a guy

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00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: that shows himself when he gets the opportunity that he

701
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: is more than talented enough to really carry an NFL

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00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: running game. And that's how I see him do it.

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00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: You're up, Mark, I'll give you one that is not

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00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: a human being, just like the actual son is not

705
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: a human being. But how about big, gigantic, monolithic, oversized

706
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Speaker 1: sports arenas that house football games that were built in

707
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties and early nineties, and even some

708
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Speaker 1: today they're being built in I was going to say

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00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: most of those, all right, And they continue to build

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00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: these things for you know, the pack nine people, and

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00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: yet our society is completely changing. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that the stub Hub Center is the is the locale

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00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: for this, okay, but because because well it's this is

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The NFL has done such a good

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Speaker 1: job of putting football in front of people's faces through

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00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: so many different ways. It's on your phone, it's on

717
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: your iPad, it's on your laptop, it's on your desktop,

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00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: it's on your television, it's in sports bars. It's so

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00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: easy to find football without having to go to a

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Speaker 1: stadium and drop a hundred and eight hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: bucks for a family afford to go. So no, I'm

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Speaker 1: saying well, you're saying your laptop and your desktop. I'm

723
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: saying it you can get it anywhere. Greg, I think

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But if you do, you

725
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Speaker 1: do you drag your family to a game when, like

726
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Speaker 1: some a f C South team is two and twelve,

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00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, a week before Christmas for a thousand dollars.

728
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Speaker 1: The NFL has made this top. I think they've made

729
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Speaker 1: this tough for their fans. And this the idea of

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Speaker 1: smaller stadium I like, and it's it's a positive. I'm

731
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Speaker 1: saying that the the inglorious move of the Chargers from

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Speaker 1: San Diego to Los Angeles that I think something comes

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Speaker 1: out of it. It's not just the move, but a

734
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Speaker 1: trend towards smaller stadiums that are more intimate, and they

735
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: can fill these things without any issues. I'm not saying

736
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Speaker 1: they'd all be twenty five thousand, but a much smaller

737
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Speaker 1: venue that caters to the fact that most sports fans

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00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: now are just as comfortable watching sports in front of

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00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: giant TVs at home, or maybe at a Patriots or

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00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: Bears bar with people like minded people, you know, versus

741
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: trying to drag them to If our country used to

742
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: be where you grew up, in the city you lived

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Speaker 1: in as a kid, you stayed there as an adult,

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00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: you stayed a fan of that team your whole life.

745
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: Now in Los Angeles, for instance, it's so people from

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00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: everywhere else. Everybody's rooting for a team other than in

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00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: Los Angeles team for the most part, if you didn't

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Speaker 1: come from here, and so you've got a cater to

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00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: such a diverse community of fans that the idea you're

750
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: gonna pack them into the local football stadium. But I'm

751
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: just I'm not saying it's happening in this citas And

752
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking to trend though, the trend that the trend

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Speaker 1: that the Yankee Stadium downsized. I think downsizing stadiums is

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00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: a trend. I don't know if they're going to go

755
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: down to StubHub, but it's like, I don't think to that,

756
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: think about where the the a's in the Raiders, but

757
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like the stadiums like that. Maybe it's another

758
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: partial eclipse, But I just think in general, the idea

759
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Speaker 1: that we're going to get out of towners to pack

760
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: it in at a hundred thousand seats stadium for a

761
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: team that you didn't grow up rooting for is a

762
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Speaker 1: challenge that downsizing stadiums. A lot of that also, I

763
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: think comes into the new stadiums now have a lot

764
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: of space allotted for luxury suites and things of that nature.

765
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: That's accounted for some of the downsizing rather than an

766
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: actual strategy. I don't know. I like, I think there's

767
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: nothing even though they went four and twelve last year

768
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: used the rams as an example. I don't think one

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Speaker 1: of the coolest things about football is a communal experience

770
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: of having a hundred thousand people watching football game you

771
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: watch college football, uh, and the big houses and ten

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Speaker 1: thousand people for a game, Like I think the big

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Speaker 1: crowds is part of what makes an NFL game special. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I get the novelty of the venue. But I don't know.

775
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen eclipse coming well or

776
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: like twenty year us from now. Money there's a lot

777
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: of money, there's money, but let's say twenty years from now,

778
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: like we're just we're just um, you know, salted away

779
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: and like individualized, like liquid pods where it's just being

780
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: beamed into our heads. Like the whole idea that we

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00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: do things with each other. I don't know, but the

782
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: idea that we do things with each other. You go

783
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: to a bar now and like it's you look down

784
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: the bar, it's sixteen people staring at their phone. Things

785
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: are changing. People are not into the community experience and

786
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: getting to know people around them the same way. This

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00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: is this a long tease for your attendance at the

788
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: first Chargers home game? Is that still happening. I don't

789
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: know if anything is happening anymore, but if it's happening,

790
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: I'll be there. Um, all right, I have one I

791
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: was I was knocked out of my first one. Shouldn't

792
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: check the I am client my bad. I thought you

793
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: pitched in well on that one. But uh, I think

794
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor again his um, his opportunity to become a

795
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: real NFL quarterback is being eclipsed by his organization. I

796
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: this idea, and I know he was terrible yesterday and

797
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: yesterday's game his numbers were outrageously poor. Mark. You wrote

798
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: about it in your What We Learned. I'm trying to

799
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: pull them up right now. On the fly, he was

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00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: about eight for eighteen if I'm not mistaken, through a

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00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: couple of picks one of the three yards per attempt. Yeah,

802
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: one was a bad pick, one was a tip ball. Okay,

803
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: so no protection he was getting here, and it's like

804
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: we went through this rigormarole for like three years. Now

805
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor in the Bills, do they believe and them

806
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: do they not? Doug Welly has it out for him. Well,

807
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: now Doug Welly's gone. But now here we are, like

808
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: three weeks from the start of the season and the

809
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: head coach is answering, like, is Tyrod Taylor gonna get bench?

810
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: First of all, who's going to be the quarterback? Well

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Speaker 1: Navy Peterman? Nathan Peterman. Actually, I thought he did not

812
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: look terrible latinated. He made it. He want one or

813
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: two money throws, and now they're talking about it maybe

814
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: taking some first team reps. It's like, calm down. You

815
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: just took away the guy's number one receiver and you

816
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: got a really mediocre, a bad team around him, and

817
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: now you're gonna make him the scapegoat when the team

818
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: looks bad in the preseason game when he doesn't have

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00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: any protection his number one receiver that you traded for

820
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: as a fractured chest bone or something like, leave Tyrod

821
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Speaker 1: Taylor alone. He's being eclipsed by the Bills and this

822
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: eighteen year playoff drought. I would love Tyrod Taylor. I

823
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: know the sun doesn't move, we will evolve around the sun,

824
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: but how about Tyrod Taylor in this role as the

825
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: sun move somewhere else and it's not Western New York,

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00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: and give this kid a real shot in the National

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00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: Football League eclipse the Bills. How about that? I don't

828
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: know what I got away from me a little what

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00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: that meant, but it's wonder if he is on this

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Speaker 1: team next year. Yeah, I absolutely agree Peterman. We'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens. You know, he's a mid to late round pick.

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00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: I get excited about Nathan p If you go to

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00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: NFL dot com right now are YouTube, you can find

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Speaker 1: a three minute contage of Peterman's best plays against the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: He did have some nice throws, had some had some

836
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: poor throws too. Was kind of up and down. But

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Speaker 1: he showed a little bit of Crawley, the Bills fan

838
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: who runs the programming downstairs. And I love Patrick. He's

839
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: a Bills fan, so he probably was responsible for He's like, yeah,

840
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: let's let's make that Peterman video about as long as

841
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: his long completion as a Jones just over and over

842
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: and over and over. It is let's ride Peterman on

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00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: the homepage. Uh uh for for the weekend. Just let

844
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: it ride, baby. I don't know. It's like everybody calmed

845
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: down with Tyrod Taylor hate. I thought we were getting

846
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: past this. The Doug Walley, he had no pretend we

847
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: are again. It was hard to find a quarterback that

848
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: has been more spottily supported by his organization. Yeah, and

849
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: you should have support from your own organization. That's the

850
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: way I believe, well thanks should operate in general. Greg

851
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: finally closed out and under the radar eclipse. Everyone was

852
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: all excited when they were talking about the bucks. They're

853
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: loading up on all these weapons around ound. Jamis Winston,

854
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: you know O J. Howard's gonna come in. Oh wait

855
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: a second, what about the old tight end that was

856
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: there before that this podcast used to love Cameron Brad.

857
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm watching these preseason games and I'm reading the training

858
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: camp reports. Out of practice. Cameron Brad is the tight

859
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: end making plays down the field, being the guy that's

860
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: gonna kind of split the field while you got Jackson

861
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: and Evans on the outside. O J. Howard I think

862
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: will be a factor eventually, but it's a tough position

863
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: to break into, and he's less of a pass catcher

864
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: maybe than Brighton. Bright to me, looks like he's gonna

865
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: be a big type. He's that clips in the first

866
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: round pick. I like it. I love it. Who knows

867
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: if it plays out. But one of those training camp reports,

868
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: I'll just let you know one of them. Braid's great.

869
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Oh I like that. Yeah, that's a lot of buzz

870
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: about that gigantic font type. Yeah. Well, I mean also

871
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 1: that you believe that he could end up having a

872
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: bigger season than Howard I expect. Yeah, he's a veteran.

873
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: He Winston really likes him. He's been there, and he's

874
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: just a natural. He's a good he's a good pass

875
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: catcher that position to specifically, Like we we used to

876
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: do the studies of like what second year tight ends?

877
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: What will they do when they're always you look at

878
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: even Gronkowski and all these guys their first year in

879
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: the league that the adjustment in terms production at tight

880
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: end is tougher than a lot of other positions. Then

881
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: they start to bloom in year two and three. Break's

882
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: a perfect fit for Winston. Right now you're dooming, uh,

883
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: Mr Howard to and Eric Ebron uh type career ARTCA.

884
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: Isn't that what you're doing right now? A slow a

885
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: slow build. It gets like thirty catches break at sixty five?

886
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: How about that? Wow, that's a lot. Meanwhile, Gary Barnage, still,

887
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: what's going on with that? I don't know? Collecting the

888
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: unemployment check still? I think you're right. Well, it's because

889
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: don't British different. I'm not on different, but I've always

890
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: been quistioned for America's form of foota and what you do. Yeah,

891
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: it's a megalomaniac approach by American management to keep him

892
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: out of the league. This is I'm telling you. It's

893
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: why Henry is never going to be a commissioner. It's

894
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: the same reason Henry Handsome Hank is fully capable of

895
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: being the man that succeeds Roger Goodell one day. We

896
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: really expect that to happen. When Gary Barnage, like a

897
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: year and a half removed from you know, a hundred

898
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: and thirty catches and twenty touchdowns whatever he did with

899
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: the Browns can't even get a job. I mean, well,

900
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: that'll be fifteen years now when Henry does not have

901
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: salt and pepper hairy even he has just like a glowing,

902
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: perfect head of white, shining white hair, and and British

903
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: nobility is seen differently in our country at that point,

904
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: and he's just eased right into that commissioner role. He's

905
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: saying British nobility generally that the viewpoint of Americans will shift. Yeah,

906
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: it's for British nobility. I'm just saying, you never know,

907
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: fifteen years now, Henry might be the perfect candidate at

908
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: the right time to take over an American sport news

909
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: or barnage jokes, It'll be like fifty Henry's like, listen,

910
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm going to incorporate these twenty thousand

911
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: seeds stadiums. You know, everything's gonna come together. That was

912
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: the definitely the weirdest one we talked about. Well, I

913
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: was stretching. Uh any final thoughts, guy, I got some

914
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: preseason games to talk about. We do. We're gonna next

915
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: time you hear from us will be Monday, and we'll

916
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: go through all the games. Um. In fact, I should

917
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: let you know just so you're aware that the Jaguars

918
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: scored the final eight points a furious rate. Are we

919
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: going through Are we going through these games? Friday games?

920
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: Do you want to go through the games that we're

921
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: gonna talk about them a little? Am I crazy? Are

922
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: you crazy? All? Right? Takeaways? Takeaways? Well, and people need

923
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: to know that the scores and certainly and find out

924
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: who on these important games. I have a takeaway for you.

925
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: How about this? So the Bucks all excited about themselves,

926
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: they get to squeeze in the Roberto Aguayo release just

927
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: in time for Hard Knocks Week two. Bang, here comes

928
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: the next preseason game and what happens. Nick Falk clankson

929
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: extra point and then misses a field goal later, and

930
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: the look on on on Dirk Cotter's face is one

931
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: of This feels like one of the most hext positional

932
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: battles in NFL history. It's it does not matter who

933
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: they put out there, they cannot make, you know, fundamentally

934
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: basic point. After he did yeah, he after the missed

935
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: field goal, which ironically I think was from the same

936
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: distance as the kick that ultimately got Roto Oguyo cut

937
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: forty seven yards, he did like a Liz Lemon eye roll.

938
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: His eyes rolled out the back of his head on

939
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: the sideline. It's a major issue, But at the same time,

940
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: everybody count that Nick kick. He'll be fine. I know

941
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: that's that he can also miss kicks, but so can

942
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: everybody else. I think I don't think he's going to

943
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: become a basket case. I don't think they have any

944
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: big problems. Greg, do you have a takeaway from that game?

945
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: How about let's go to the Dolphins but not Bucks Jacks. Nothing,

946
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: We'll move on. Yeah, well we talked about that thing. Well,

947
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: obviously one quick thing Winston. Winston did some some good

948
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: things in that game that the box score looks awesome.

949
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: He had some very concerning decisions. He he does the

950
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: Brett you know, he had the one he had to

951
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: throw at the end of the first half that was

952
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: like more Brett fire than any Brett five throw never happened,

953
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: Like falling to the literally, like being acrobatic and keeping

954
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: himself off the ground and then just throwing the ball up.

955
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: We'll see that on hard knocks. Carter is going to

956
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: go after although he got hit in the head in

957
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: that play, which the announcer has never really talked about. Yeah,

958
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 1: it should have been penalty anyway. Mark has Williams caught

959
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: a four yard pass from Brandon Allen uh Jason Meyers

960
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: more Pad problems, missed the extra kick. There was then

961
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: a safety by Brian Anger to cut it to twelve eight.

962
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: Not enough, But it wasn't enough because the Tampa Bay

963
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: Buccaneers improved to one and one got that first big

964
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: w with a twelve to eight win UH in Jacksonville.

965
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: So when in when into Jacksonville, that's making a statement

966
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 1: inside your own state. You don't see too many twelve

967
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: eight finals, not often, not often. Let's look, let's talk

968
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: about that Miami Dolphins game against the Baltimore Rames. J

969
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: Cutler's debut three of six twenty four yards, had another

970
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: completion that was wiped out by penalty. Your takeaway from

971
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: the UH Dolphins and Ravens Gregg was more of the

972
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: same from Ryan Mallett that that's all that what he's making.

973
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: It really hard on the Ravens decision makers because they're

974
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: trying to give him as much rope as possible and

975
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: he's just he's just not accurate, he's not ready, like

976
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: he doesn't seem like he knows the offense. And they

977
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: announced that Flacco is unlikely to practice next week. Once again,

978
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: Our Guy rap sheet had this story a dent right

979
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: that Flacco was gonna miss a lot of time. And

980
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,479
Speaker 1: I still don't think it's too late. It's not too late.

981
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: I still think that Kaepernick thing could happen there because

982
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett was once traded on August thirty one to Houston.

983
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: You know, Sam Bradford was traded what was that That

984
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: might have been September last year. I believe that Brat,

985
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: it's not it's not too late. You can make a

986
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: move that. That was it from this game. Not much else,

987
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 1: uh you? And else? Not much else from the Miami

988
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: Dolphins offense because after they went up seven nothing, they

989
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: gave up thirty one straight points never scored again. The

990
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: Ravens make a eight men with seven win in Miami

991
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: Road Dogs. Ravens now undefeated. So Ravens us halfway home

992
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: to the preseason. They have in their stadium for banners

993
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: something to think of. Someone pointed out all of the

994
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: Ravens injuries, the nine players after June one that have

995
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: gone to i R or been suspended or retired. It

996
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: was exactly. It was right around the time we started

997
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: going into the Ravens nest. Very interesting, very and they

998
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: asked for it. We started going into the nest because

999
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: the fans. Let's let's call it what it is. Complain

1000
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: to us that we weren't giving the Ravens enough coverage.

1001
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: Do you still want to get they got a little greedy?

1002
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: Think about it. Do you want the Ravens nest to continue?

1003
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: And actually, don't tweet at this continue the Ravens Nest? No,

1004
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: I don't even want to hear that. Just understand what

1005
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: happened here. Finally, the Bills UH went to Philadelphia to

1006
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: play the Eagles, and UH mark your takeaways from this affair.

1007
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: We talked about Tyrod Taylor. I am concerned about one

1008
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: thing with the Eagles and in praise of another, very

1009
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: concerned about the running game based off what we've seen

1010
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: over two weeks. La Garrett Blunt, I have a feeling

1011
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: we'll be back with the Patriots by Halloween. I am not.

1012
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 1: I am convinced to this. He is not fitting out,

1013
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: he's not fitting well. It's not his fault though. They

1014
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: are not blocking well. But on the other side of

1015
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: the ball, two straight great games by Brandon Graham and

1016
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,479
Speaker 1: that Jim Schwartz front seven looks nasty. Yeah, it looks

1017
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: like they hit on their first round pick with looks great. Barnett,

1018
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: and that would really turn a really good line into

1019
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, one of the better lines in the league

1020
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: the Bills. And you mentioned Tyrode not getting support, he

1021
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: had no protection. Yeah, they were missing a couple of starters.

1022
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: That's why it's hard to evaluate these games. But you know,

1023
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: if Corty Glenn gets back out there, maybe they'll be fine.

1024
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: Maybe when they get healthier at receiver, you don't have

1025
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: an Kan bold And starting on the outside and trying

1026
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: to win one on one routes against Ronald Darby. Ronald

1027
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: Darby had like a great revenge game right off the

1028
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: bat with an intercept. He could have had a couple

1029
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: of interceptions. You know, most would not be playing outside.

1030
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: You know, at this stage in his career. If you

1031
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: got Bolden on one side, you got a rookies a

1032
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: Johnes who had a nice game on the other side.

1033
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: That's that's tough. What happens when Ronald Darby, the guy

1034
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: who's you know, mostly forgotten in this Sammy Watkins Matthews

1035
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: Derby trade scenario opening winds up being the best of

1036
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: the group for the team he landed with. Wouldn't surprise

1037
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: me at all. Makes sense Byron Marshall at a one

1038
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: yard run with three minutes to play. That was the

1039
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 1: decisive score for the Eagles in Philly. We must protect

1040
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: this house, indeed, and that's what they did to improve

1041
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: to one and one. The Bills fall to oh and two,

1042
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: which all uh all but takes them out of the

1043
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: running for the preseason championship this year. I don't know

1044
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: how you dig out of that to then go confront

1045
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: September and what's after that. You don't come out of

1046
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: it after the preseason personally, nor should you. I mean,

1047
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: this is really when you know when champions are are

1048
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: etched forged. To me, they should be crowned as well.

1049
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: You don't know what the league's doing. My favorite tweet

1050
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: of last night, this is totally random, was a comment

1051
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: that Sean McDermott um looks like a coach on Madden

1052
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: with the default settings on. Do you just put like

1053
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: that's pretty good? That's really good? Actually, because that is

1054
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: an exact Do we want to credit wherever that one

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Speaker 1: made two. Hey, shout out to Shawn with a great tweet. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back Monday. We'll go over the rest of

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Speaker 1: the preseason games UM thirteen at all, including one tonight

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Speaker 1: Minnesota at Seattle so UM battle bund a few teams

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Speaker 1: there at the clink. Uh so, make sure you come

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Speaker 1: back on Monday and we'll we'll keep you, um, we'll

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Speaker 1: keep you up to date on all the goings on

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. All right, let's go see this. This

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Speaker 1: is Dan hands Is signing off four Quiet Storm, the

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Speaker 1: Boss and Tampose making a statement behind the glass digging graves.

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