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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: you hanging out with us Thursday edition of the program,

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Speaker 1: and we have got a ton to dive into with

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Speaker 1: all of you. Mary Margaret Olahan, who has been with

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Speaker 1: us on before, I think at the RNC, has done

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Speaker 1: really good work looking at Minnesota law as it pertains

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Speaker 1: to the shooting, which we're going to get more into today.

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Speaker 1: The next we hope Governor of Virginia wins some seers

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Speaker 1: will be on with us an hour two and then

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Speaker 1: Trey Goudy of Fox News, and we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: ask him about some of the comments that he has

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Speaker 1: made that went megaviral on Fox News yesterday. He has

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Speaker 1: a book out, he was already scheduled to be on.

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Speaker 1: Each of those will be guests, respectively in the next

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Speaker 1: three hours, but we begin with all of you and

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Speaker 1: the continued fallout from the awful attack yesterday where a

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Speaker 1: trans terrorist shooter with kill Donald Trump written on the gun.

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Speaker 1: Six million was not enough anti submitic commentary, evil, true

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Speaker 1: evil that was brought to bear in that attack yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and as more details have come out, I just want

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Speaker 1: to lay this out for you and I would say.

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Speaker 1: My statement right off the top is it's time for

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Speaker 1: good people, mom's dads, grandma's grandpas, all of you out

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Speaker 1: there that cares about kids to really significantly stop trying

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Speaker 1: to be kind and be willing to acknowledge that almost

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Speaker 1: everyone who is claiming that their trans has a severe

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Speaker 1: mental illness. And this is a perfect example I think

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Speaker 1: of toxic empathy. You're trying to be kind, you're trying

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Speaker 1: to work with a kid in almost all circumstances, that's

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Speaker 1: going to make things worse. And this situation which we

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Speaker 1: just went through in Minneapolis is a horrible echo of

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Speaker 1: what happened in Nashville, Tennessee, back just less than two

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Speaker 1: years ago, I believe, and let me lay this out.

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Speaker 1: You had, in both situations a transshooter who had attended

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Speaker 1: a religious school decide that, in the case of Nashville,

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Speaker 1: a girl who was trying to transition to being a boy,

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Speaker 1: in the case of Minneapolis, a boy who was trying

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Speaker 1: to transition to being a girl. Miners who received treatments

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Speaker 1: for their trans delusions decided to go into those schools

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Speaker 1: and try to murder as many young Christian kids as possible.

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Speaker 1: In both situations, they pre stalked their site. They made

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Speaker 1: the decision to try to kill as many people as possible. Buck,

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Speaker 1: as we were just sitting down to start the show,

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Speaker 1: you shared a tweet from Caitlin Collins CNN which says

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Speaker 1: that this killer had been touring the school basically to

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Speaker 1: try to find out the way to kill as many

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Speaker 1: people as possible. It is true evil, and I think

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Speaker 1: the evil, frankly, is being accelerated, is being exacerbated, is

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Speaker 1: being made worse by the fact that these people are

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Speaker 1: on all sorts of drugs, trying to in some way

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Speaker 1: alter the biological reality of their sex. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's making frankly, them more likely to be violent. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's time for reasonable people to stand up

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Speaker 1: against this and say we have to stop this.

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Speaker 2: The mass murder of children here. Pretended that he was

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Speaker 2: going to go back to the church, or that he

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Speaker 2: was trying to come back into the church as a

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Speaker 2: believer and had a previous affiliation with it, so used

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Speaker 2: the connection that he had had previously as a cover

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Speaker 2: for the operational surveillance that he did of a school

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Speaker 2: with kids in it. A defense the school with kids

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Speaker 2: in it. Demons live among us, and this person was

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Speaker 2: a demon. And there are so many, unfortunately different factors

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Speaker 2: I think could be handled earlier on. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: the biggest one for me is the ideology of trans

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Speaker 2: people are able to change their gender. And if you

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Speaker 2: don't believe this, you're a Nazi and you are committing genocide.

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Speaker 2: And this is there's language like this all over the

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Speaker 2: internet right now in response what happened yesterday. That is

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Speaker 2: completely insane. It is absolutely reckless. It reminds me Clay

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Speaker 2: of the of the first BLM, the first BLM series

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Speaker 2: of protests after Ferguson, there were all these marches and

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Speaker 2: I went to cover these rallies and you could just go.

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Speaker 2: You'd see at the rallies they were just talking about

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Speaker 2: evil racist cops killing black men all the time, all

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Speaker 2: the time, day in and day out. And it's a lie.

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Speaker 2: It's horrible, it's disgraceful, and I understand that most people

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Speaker 2: really stupid and vote Democrat. But some people do more

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Speaker 2: than that because they see mobs of people channing the

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Speaker 2: same slogan. And that ended with I believe it was

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Speaker 2: cold blood. I think it was five of them. Horrific

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Speaker 2: by the media is completely memory hold that. You know,

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Speaker 2: when the media says that if you don't want people

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Speaker 2: to have socialized medicine, you're hoping they die from cancer.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we don't even talk really about healthcare anymore.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats have just made healthcare worse in every respect

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Speaker 2: every metric you can look at in terms of price,

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Speaker 2: in terms of access, all it did gives you is

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Speaker 2: coverage you don't use and an excuse to have you

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Speaker 2: subsidize illegals and other people who are in the country.

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Speaker 2: So but put that aside for a second. The guy

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Speaker 2: who is shooting at rand Paul and others and shot

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Speaker 2: Steve's galis at that Baseball Diamond was saying, this is

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Speaker 2: for healthcare. Well, you could say, well, oh, you can't

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Speaker 2: blame somebody for you can't blame an ideology for one

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Speaker 2: person's actions. Well, if the ideology is you're murdering people

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Speaker 2: en mass because of your policy, if you take it

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Speaker 2: to that extent, and this is what brings me then

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Speaker 2: to Trump, They say that Trump is even Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 2: We can play this. Gaven Newsom is a is a shameless,

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Speaker 2: soulless liar, a power mad, narcissistic, vile human being, and

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Speaker 2: he's saying that he doesn't think there's going to be

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Speaker 2: an election in twenty twenty eight. Now, for most Democrats

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Speaker 2: who hear that, it's just oh yeah, I hate Trump.

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Speaker 2: You hate Trump. This is a way of expressing our

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Speaker 2: Trump hatred because he's gonna seize power forever. But for

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Speaker 2: some people, they hear this and they go hold on.

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Speaker 2: The governor of California is saying this, Clay The New

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Speaker 2: You know, CNN is going along. CNN last night they

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Speaker 2: referred to this guy as a she.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, we need to play that audio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we'll get to that. Here. Look here, here's Newsom.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know that you've already called them out

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Speaker 2: on this. Cut twenty is Gavin Newsom saying that there

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Speaker 2: won't be an election in twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Play it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Donald Trump wants another election. You think

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Speaker 4: for a second you want I have two dozen Trump

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight hats His folks keep sending me. Who

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Speaker 4: spends two hundred million dollars on a ballroom at their

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Speaker 4: home and then leaves the house.

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Speaker 5: This is serious, guys, This is serious.

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Speaker 2: So it'll be Newsome Trump in twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: No, No, this is there's no This guy doesn't believe in free,

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Speaker 4: fair elections. He could try to wreck this country. Will

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Speaker 4: be did you there? January sixth, I mean he tried

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Speaker 4: to light democracy on fire. He dialed for eleven almost

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Speaker 4: twelve thousand votes. Now he's doing it in a plain sight,

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Speaker 4: and people said, oh, just Trump being Trump. People actually

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Speaker 4: think this guy's serious about having another election. You think

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Speaker 4: he's joking about twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: Wake up, you will lose.

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Speaker 4: Your country again. It's not about Democrats or but it's about.

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Speaker 5: All of us.

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely convinced.

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Speaker 4: I'm absolutely twenty twenty eight. You've seen it. He's tried

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Speaker 4: to steal the last election. He tried to trying to

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Speaker 2: This time, you will lose your country, Clay, he's a

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Speaker 2: dictator in the making. You will lose everything you will

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Speaker 2: hold deer. He's either a liar, which we all know

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Speaker 2: he is, or he's so crazy that he doesn't understand

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Speaker 2: that people hear this and they take him seriously.

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Speaker 1: The second would be Trump assassin. Almost no one even

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Speaker 1: talks about assassination two point zero at the Trump West

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Speaker 1: Palm Beach golf course, where the guy I laid in

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Speaker 1: wait all day with his gun and Trump was playing

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Speaker 1: golf and he came within a hole. Nobody ever asked

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Speaker 1: how did that guy know that Trump was going to

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Speaker 1: be playing golf that day? How did he stay in

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Speaker 1: even know who that guy is. What did he say

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Speaker 1: was the reason why he was trying to kill Trump?

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Speaker 1: Because he believed Democrat rhetoric that Trump was a dictator,

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Speaker 1: that Trump was Hitler, and he felt like he needed

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Speaker 1: mental health issues, as many people who engage in acts

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Speaker 1: acted presupposed that what was said was true, that Trump

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Speaker 1: him would be justified.

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Speaker 1: That is the process in his mind through which he went.

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Speaker 1: When Gavin Newsom is telling you this, he is saying

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Speaker 1: Trump is a dictator and people out there who believe him.

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Speaker 1: And I just tweeted, Hey, Gavin Newsom, I'll bet you

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars that we have an election in twenty

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Speaker 1: I don't think Gavin Newsom actually believes what he's saying.

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Speaker 1: He's saying it because he thinks he gets political advantage

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Speaker 1: from it, because the base of the left in the

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party is so broken. But there are consequences when

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Speaker 1: you tell crazy people crazy things. Well, there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of crazy Democrats I've also said before that I

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Speaker 1: think if you looked at male testosterone levels, you would

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Speaker 1: have a very good indicator whether someone votes Republican or Democrat.

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Speaker 1: I also think if you looked at emotional and psychological stability,

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Speaker 1: you'd have a very good The Republican Party is the

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Speaker 1: party of psychological stability in America today, just a fact.

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Speaker 1: And if you look get self described happiness and health

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Speaker 1: and and you know, use of different psychiatric medications and stuff,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats have a lock on all that stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are the party of the emotionally and psychologically unstable.

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Speaker 1: And when you have people at the very top of

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Speaker 1: saying their clay, or when you have people at the

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Speaker 2: So this is the thing. It's not in the in

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Speaker 2: the crevices of the dark web, it's not in the

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Speaker 2: places on the internet where most of us never venture

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Speaker 2: or go. This is from the top. This is the difference.

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Speaker 2: You know. They love to do this thing. On the right,

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Speaker 2: they'll find some person who's just like a psycho loser

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Speaker 2: that no one's ever heard of before, who has some

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Speaker 2: vaguely right wing views or has some some racist views,

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Speaker 2: and it's immediately Donald Trump's fault. And you'll say, well,

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Speaker 2: hold on a second, what does this actually have to

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Speaker 2: ignoring the reality of who Trump puts some positions of power.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have this whole Meanwhile, the Democrats say

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Speaker 1: I was talking about this with Buck off Air Mary

436
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Speaker 1: Margaret yesterday. We went hard, frankly at the idea that

437
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Speaker 1: we're giving all these kids these drugs. And now we've

438
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Speaker 1: had the shooting in Nashville, we've had the shooting in Minneapolis.

439
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Speaker 1: All of the evidence continues to come out that this

440
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Speaker 1: is very much toxic empathy that parents are being taken

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Speaker 1: advantage of. I saw very little pushback. Now we'll play

442
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Speaker 1: some of the cuts of people trying to make that argument.

443
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Speaker 1: But I'm talking about on social media. You wrote this

444
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Speaker 1: book about it. I'm sure you got attacked then, but

445
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Speaker 1: it feels like reasonable moms and dads, grandmas and grandpas

446
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: are starting to have their their minds opened up here

447
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Speaker 1: that they've been taken advantage of in terms of trying

448
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Speaker 1: to treat this as if it is a real medical condition.

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Speaker 1: What would you tell moms and dads out there listening

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Speaker 1: all over the country to us right now, if they're

451
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Speaker 1: twelve year old or their thirteen year old comes to

452
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Speaker 1: them and says, hey, I'm a different sex. What is

453
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Speaker 1: the data show and what is the appropriate in your

454
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Speaker 1: mind way to handle this if you're a parent. I

455
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Speaker 1: know it's a big and a difficult question, but I

456
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Speaker 1: think a lot of parents are thinking about it in

457
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Speaker 1: the wake of this shooting and as We've continued to

458
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Speaker 1: see so many more people coming out and trying to

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Speaker 1: d trans after having these surgeries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it absolutely is probably one of the scariest questions

461
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Speaker 3: that a parent can base in this day and age,

462
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Speaker 3: not only because of the magnanimity of what we're dealing with,

463
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Speaker 3: coming up against the gender ideology, you know, cults, the institution,

464
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Speaker 3: this massive group of people that are pushing this, but

465
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Speaker 3: also because a lot of these parents, if they take

466
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Speaker 3: their kids to the doctor, are going to be told

467
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Speaker 3: that their kid is transgender. They'll be asked, would you

468
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Speaker 3: rather have a dead daughter or a living son, or

469
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Speaker 3: vice versa. And this is a question post to parents

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Speaker 3: pretty much across the board. Every d transitioner that I've

471
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Speaker 3: spoke with has told me their parents were given this ultimatum.

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Speaker 3: We don't know this for sure yet, but it's possible

473
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Speaker 3: that this trans identifying shooters that killed kids at Annunciation

474
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Speaker 3: Church yesterday, it's possible that his mother faced the same

475
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Speaker 3: question and conundrum and they don't know what to do

476
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Speaker 3: about it. And so my advice would be, do your research.

477
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Speaker 3: When your child comes to you and says hey, mom,

478
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Speaker 3: if your little girl comes to you and says hey, mom,

479
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Speaker 3: I'm a boy. Don't fall prey to the anxieties. Don't

480
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Speaker 3: trust medical institution, do some basic research and realize you're

481
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Speaker 3: not alone. There's many, many other kids that have come

482
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Speaker 3: up against this ideology due to social media. Activist teachers,

483
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Speaker 3: activist therapists and doctors. Find community. Get your kid out

484
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Speaker 3: of this school that your child is at, because odds

485
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: are it's the school and the teachers that are pushing

486
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Speaker 3: this on them. Take their phone away from them. That

487
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Speaker 3: is the biggest, biggest danger that kids these days are facing.

488
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Speaker 3: Take their phone away from them. No laptops upstairs. These

489
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Speaker 3: are some of the biggest dangers that our kids are

490
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Speaker 3: facing these days, and a lot of parents think that

491
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Speaker 3: it's just mean or you know, makes their child feel still,

492
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: do not have that technology. Your child will benefit enormously

493
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Speaker 3: from not having access to transgender ideology online, I promise you.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 3: There's so many steps that can be taken, and there's

496
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Speaker 3: so many organizations that can help parents defending education. It's

497
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Speaker 3: one organization that is really vciferous on this issue. Do

498
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Speaker 3: No Harm. They're really great. They've partner with tons of

499
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Speaker 3: detransitioners and then the d transitioners themselves Chloe Cole, Priccha, Maudsley,

500
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Speaker 3: all of these young women will speak out against the

501
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: dangers of this ideology, and frankly, their stories of the

502
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Speaker 3: reason I wrote my book because their stories are more

503
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Speaker 3: powerful than pretty much any argument that you or I

504
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 3: could present, because they've lived it, they know how dangerous

505
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 3: and horrible it is, they suffered through it, and now

506
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: they live to tell the tale, thank God. So I

507
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Speaker 3: consider their stories to be some of the most powerful,

508
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Speaker 3: and I would definitely refer parents and anyone any young

509
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Speaker 3: person that's questioning their gender to go and listen to

510
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Speaker 3: these stories and understands the gravity of what they're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Mary Margret Olahan, Delhi Wire's White House correspondent,

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Speaker 2: and Mary Margaret in your in your research on this issue,

513
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Speaker 2: as we just mentioned, you've written a book on this,

514
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Speaker 2: and you've been following this very closely. We had a

515
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Speaker 2: caller yesterday who raised a very good point. Clan and

516
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Speaker 2: I have talked about it before, but the caller gave

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Speaker 2: us an important reminder of it. What is the when

518
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Speaker 2: when I'm sure you've come up against this and if

519
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 2: you look at these clinics and the doctors that are

520
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: doing these things. If the plumbing does not determine the gender,

521
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Speaker 2: so to speak, what is the justification for these surgeries

522
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Speaker 2: that imperfectly, to put it mildly, uh, change the plumbing, Like,

523
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Speaker 2: what is the rationale behind that?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Because they'll say, it doesn't matter what the parts are,

526
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Speaker 2: it's what you feel that's gender. But then why do

527
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Speaker 2: we have this whole process of putting pharmaceuticals and puberty

528
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Speaker 2: blockers and all these things, and then even surgery to

529
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Speaker 2: change the plumbing so to speak, if it doesn't make

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Speaker 2: a difference to gender.

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Speaker 3: Well, you would have to ask some of these doctors

532
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Speaker 3: and therapists that, because they're the ones that with very

533
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Speaker 3: very very little Oh.

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Speaker 2: No, I get that, Mary Margant. I'm just asking you.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard any of them try to explain

536
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Speaker 2: or give any rationale for that, because I do think

537
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: it's a very important and powerful point.

538
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: What they try and do to rationalize it is to

539
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: just give you these platitudes, these ideological sayings. They'll try

540
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 3: and tell you that you don't understand because you're not

541
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: well versed in this ideology, but you're right at the

542
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Speaker 3: end of the day. It's one of those things where

543
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: I think Donald Trump Junior does a really good job

544
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Speaker 3: talking about this. He'll just say this is crazy or

545
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: wtf is going on? And that's kind of the real

546
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: response that everybody should be getting to it, because it's

547
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: as simple and basic as that. And actually it's one

548
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Speaker 3: of the reasons that Donald Trump won the last election

549
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: is because he kind of gave voice to that sentiment

550
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Speaker 3: as he was campaigning and saying this is just crazy.

551
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: You all know this, this is crazy. We shouldn't have

552
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: to put up with this anymore, and we need to

553
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: protect our kids, and that campaign messaging really landed him

554
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: in the White House. We saw the polls that showed

555
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: that it did. It was some of its biggest campaign ads,

556
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: just showing people what Kamala Harris was saying about transgenderism

557
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: and you know, helping illegal aliens in prison get sex changes.

558
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: Like this type of rhetoric is it's insane, and most

559
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: people don't agree with it. So I think that, you know,

560
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: we need to believe are we need to believe what

561
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: we're seeing, and we need to give voice to that.

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Speaker 3: And the Trumps, frankly, have been doing a really good

563
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Speaker 3: job of messaging on that, so they've been very effective.

564
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Speaker 3: And now Trump is president, and he's been enacting a

565
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Speaker 3: lot of different executive orders fighting back on this ideology.

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Speaker 3: So I'm really interested in seeing what comes next because

567
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Speaker 3: you know, one one big question I have for Caroline

568
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: Levitt at this upcoming briefing is, Look, we've seen numerous

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Speaker 3: trans identifying shooters targeting Christian kids. Is the FBI going

570
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Speaker 3: to start investigating this sphere of trans identifying shooters targeting

571
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Speaker 3: Christian kids? Is there going to be a trans terrorism category?

572
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: What are we going to see in this area, because

573
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Speaker 3: it's time to stop pretending like this isn't a pattern.

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Speaker 3: And frankly, during the Biden administration, when the Covenant Christian

575
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Speaker 3: shooter targeted kids in Nashville, what we saw there was

576
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Speaker 3: the SDI hiding the manifesto. They wouldn't release it. They

577
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: didn't want to tell everyone that this shooter was trans

578
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: and hated Jews and hated Christians and was a deeply troubled,

579
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Speaker 3: mentally ill figure, and we had to actually rely on

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Speaker 3: media outlets like Daily Wire to show people what was

581
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Speaker 3: actually going on. So I'm hoping for more transparency here,

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Speaker 3: for heavier investigations.

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Speaker 2: And more Well appreciate that you have been on this

584
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Speaker 2: story and others like the Covenant School shooting story. And

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Speaker 2: I just would remind everybody all of the rationales for

586
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: they can't share the Covenant shooting manifesto were either just

587
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: guesses or lies, depending on who you're talking about, because

588
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: there was no reason they couldn't have shared that manifesto.

589
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: It was pure suppression, pure politics. Mary Margaret Olahan of

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Speaker 2: The Daily Wire, I know you got to go run

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Speaker 2: in and do a whole West Wing briefing thing here,

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Speaker 2: So good luck to you on that, and please come

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Speaker 2: back and talk to us again soon.

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Speaker 2: Got you oh, use the wrong pronoun you better, you

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Speaker 2: better beg forgiveness, You better bend the knee. I'm going

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Speaker 2: you Trump, Thank you truth, and I mean the truth,

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Speaker 2: not just like truth social but thank you for the

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Speaker 2: truth and also for freedom. I mean that's the other

638
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Speaker 2: thing too. This was being elevated into treating wrong pronouns

639
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Speaker 2: like the way society treats a racial slur. I mean

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Speaker 2: that was what was going on just a few years ago.

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Speaker 2: I think under the Body administration that was still the case.

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Speaker 2: Now things have changed. Now you can speak the truth

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Speaker 2: about gender, which is a huge, huge step in the

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Speaker 2: right direction. Dwayne and Asheville, North Carolina. I was just

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Speaker 2: up there. It's beautiful. I don't love the politics, but

646
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Speaker 2: damn they have some really good food. What's going on, Dwayne?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm an old country boy. I always hated when

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Speaker 6: raised a fair view outside of Ashville. I was going

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Speaker 6: to just pick back up on the subject he touched

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Speaker 6: on yesterday, Clay, we're talking about the doctors performing the

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Speaker 6: transgendered surgeries. North Carolina being one of the states that

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Speaker 6: I hate to say has doctors.

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Speaker 3: Have gone to this.

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Speaker 6: But it's amazing they'll do the transgender surgeries, but yet

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Speaker 6: they will not support death row.

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Speaker 3: Execuse.

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Speaker 6: It's amazing they can do that to a child, but

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Speaker 6: they can't do it to someone who has killed a child.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. I think buck your analogy

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Speaker 1: of even people in countries where doctors don't have freedom

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Speaker 1: said we're not going to chop hands off because people

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Speaker 1: have engaged in robbery in Muslim countries.

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Speaker 2: Doctors just said, we're not going to do that.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to be a part of this.

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Speaker 2: Doctors.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to sue the hell out of

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Speaker 1: these hospit bittles out of these doctors that did these surgeries.

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Speaker 1: People who decide they don't want to be permanently sterilized

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Speaker 1: as they're getting older and