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Speaker 2: out in our Nashville tirack dot Com studios, jaymart what's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Well to New Year and we're watching a game that's

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Speaker 1: basically a playoff game because it's a win and in situation,

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Speaker 1: the only thing I'll say, and this, this is gonna

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Speaker 1: upset any listeners or fans of the Indianapolis Colts. Can

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Speaker 1: we please get CJ. Stroud and the Texans in the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Like I don't want to see the Colt This Colts

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Speaker 1: team is not exciting to watch. I am impressed with

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Speaker 1: what they've done and I think the future is bright.

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Speaker 1: I want to see c. J. Stroud and this team

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Speaker 1: and Will Anderson and this. I want the Texans in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think they're a much more enticing, entertaining

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Speaker 1: football team.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it funny?

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Speaker 2: Like I was looking at all the playoff scenarios today

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Speaker 2: and I think we all kind of all want it

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Speaker 2: to go down the same way. Like, just as an example,

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Speaker 2: in the NFC, Packers win, they're in. Packers lose. In

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks win, and see Seattle's in nobody actually wants Seattle, right,

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Speaker 2: like we all you know Packers Jordan Love had that

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Speaker 2: big moment on that Sunday night against Kansas City, young

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Speaker 2: wide receivers, young team, young coach on the way up.

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Speaker 2: Seattle's like, yeah, we've kind of been there and done

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Speaker 2: that with Gino Smith, and we know he's not the

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Speaker 2: long term answer. It feels like there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: those scenarios in these and it feels like I think

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Speaker 2: everyone is kind of in the same boat. I think

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Speaker 2: everybody wants Houston in this scenario. I think everybody wants

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Speaker 2: Buffalo in it the sake of whoever has to be out.

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Speaker 2: It just feels like there's a lot of crazy scenarios.

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Speaker 2: But whether it's the Texans, whether it's Buffalo, I would

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Speaker 2: argue Green Bay in the NFC, it feels like everybody

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Speaker 2: probably wants pretty much the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's probably true. And then when you

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Speaker 1: see that missed extra point, so now it's a six

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Speaker 1: point game instead of seven, I'm just like, please tell

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Speaker 1: me a missed extra point is not gonna cost us

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Speaker 1: a chance to see a quarterback or rookie quarterback in CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud in the postseason who tonight is twenty of twenty

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Speaker 1: six for two sixty four and two touchdowns at a

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Speaker 1: one thirty four passer rating right now, Like, I want

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Speaker 1: that guy, and I don't hate this is not like

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Speaker 1: hatred on Gardner Minshew, but he's thirteen to twenty three

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Speaker 1: just not as exciting. Like again, I'm impressed with Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: for finding their way here. I'm impressed to both these teams,

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Speaker 1: but one of them is far better box office to

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Speaker 1: me right now. And it's Houston. And you're right about

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Speaker 1: Green Bay too, no question about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The disappointing thing, I don't know what the right word

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Speaker 2: mentioned the miss pat as the Saeger said in the

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Speaker 2: goal late in the third to make it a seventeen

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Speaker 4: I mean, whether it's this game, whether.

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Speaker 2: It's Pittsburgh earlier, Pittsburgh does take care of business against

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Speaker 2: did not play Baltimore clinch the number one seed last week.

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Speaker 2: Is there any major takeaway so far from today's NFL

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Speaker 2: knowing again Jason that, of course we don't have a

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Speaker 2: final result here in Indianapolis, and because of it, we

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Speaker 2: don't yet know who's won and what it means for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean Pittsburgh is not that interesting either,

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Speaker 1: And if TJ. Watt is done for the season, that

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Speaker 1: have to happen for them in order to make the postseason.

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Speaker 1: But that's really the big takeaway is if they were

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Speaker 1: that's that's one of those where if you'd known it

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Speaker 4: Can I say something very controversial?

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Speaker 2: So I was thinking about this today, looking at all

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Speaker 2: the different playoff scenarios. We just totally crap on the

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Speaker 2: playoff selection process and how it works. Oh it's all subjective,

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Speaker 2: and oh it's all this and all it's all that.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, why do we just default to the

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Speaker 2: NFL and NBA and major professional sports without a committee

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Speaker 2: that being the right way, Because like we were just saying, like, like,

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Speaker 2: if Buffalo loses tomorrow, there's a scenario where Pittsburgh gets

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Speaker 2: won some game in Week three, they're going to the

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Speaker 2: playoffs and Buffalo is not. But oh my god, this

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Speaker 2: system is so much better than college.

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Speaker 4: College is such a debacle. It's so embarrassing NA say

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Speaker 4: college isn't perfect.

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Speaker 2: I also think the college system is inherently flawed because

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Speaker 2: we have four spots for five Power Conferences. But I

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Speaker 2: bring it up to say, like I was thinking about

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Speaker 2: that in the lead up to today, is like everyone

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Speaker 4: To the professionals is the right way to do it.

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Speaker 2: But the professionals is just you know, a bunch of

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Speaker 2: in each league in some cases, you know, based on

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Speaker 2: win loss, you know, tiebreakers or whatever. It's not really

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Speaker 2: like a take that I'm like super passionate about, but

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Speaker 4: Was thinking about coming into this game or coming out

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can see what you're saying. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, it's just it's a meritocracy based on

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Like, it's not subjective. It's wins and losses,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, some teams are gonna play easier schedules and there,

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Speaker 1: and nothing is ever going to be perfect. But I

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Speaker 1: like the fact that it's not a decision. It's just

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Speaker 1: here's a team that earned their way in for whatever

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Speaker 1: should not be in the playoffs, period, point blank, end

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Speaker 1: of story. I don't care if you've won a division,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the division thing needs to be reevaluated a

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Speaker 1: little bit as well. But I don't like I don't

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Speaker 1: like having to prove something to people based on your

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Speaker 1: I still favor the NFL just because if you have

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Speaker 1: the right number of wins and or you have tie

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Speaker 1: breakers in your favor based on things that have happened

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Speaker 1: throughout the season, you find your way into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: It's not a matter of who's the best. It's a

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Speaker 1: matter of who's deserving based on what they did on

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Speaker 1: the field. And there's not subjectivity to it.

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Speaker 4: No, I get it, but I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I mean, and we would have had Florida State

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Speaker 1: We had a playoff game one year with jackson I

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Speaker 1: and they were quarterbacks, where no one on earth would

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Speaker 1: have thought that those teams being quarterbacked by those two

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Speaker 1: never gonna be perfect. There's no question.

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Speaker 2: Last year we had I remember Skyler Thompson into Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think off the top of my head.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, let's see here, what else was the what else

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Speaker 1: It's definitely happened, but the skywar Thompson as I had

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there's gonna be circumstances like that. This time.

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Speaker 1: We've gotten used to seeing backups all through the league,

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Speaker 2: Well, and to bring it back full circle to what

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Speaker 2: you said, that's why we're intrigued by the possibility of

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Speaker 2: having Houston because there's something resembling full strength. Now I

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Speaker 2: know they're not Tank Dell's out for the year. There's

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Speaker 2: you know, everybody has injuries at this point, but at

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Speaker 2: least you're getting something resembling their best version with a

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Speaker 4: Stroud.

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Speaker 2: For people who are just joining us, by the way,

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Speaker 2: that we have just hit the two minute warning, Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: missed extra point on the last drive for the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: We will keep you updated on this real quick, Jason.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I should.

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Speaker 2: Mention, this is a win in your in scenario for

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Speaker 4: Real quick.

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Speaker 2: And again, I know it's a tough question to ask

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Speaker 2: because ultimately and by the way, Indianapolis is closing in

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Speaker 4: Will keep you updated.

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Speaker 2: I know it's really tough to ask because we don't

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Speaker 2: know the scenarios. We don't know if they'll be the

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Speaker 2: if they'll be on the road, I assume that depending

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Speaker 2: on who wins this game and then who gets in you,

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Speaker 2: as a fan of whoever, you want to see CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud in Houston, But as a fan of the other team,

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Speaker 2: that's probably the team that you don't want to see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say so. I mean, I think both

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Speaker 1: the Colts are doing what they're doing. I just don't

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Speaker 1: think they've got the skill talent when it comes down

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Speaker 1: to it in the postseason to deal with what they

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Speaker 1: Tank Dell, I think it would be a different story

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Speaker 1: Of course, he shouldn't have a room to operate tonight,

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Speaker 1: nine catches, So maybe he's just somebody you can't cover.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you don't want to see CJ. Stroud because

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Speaker 1: Stroud is playing with such poise and confidence. He's the

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Speaker 2: off air. We got a final in Indianapolis, Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: scenario here is we're going to break Indianapolis had just

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Speaker 2: We all know that had them very well prep for

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Speaker 2: they can. They take the safety rather than punting. Houston

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Speaker 2: my question, Jason, was it a bad final few minutes

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Speaker 2: this up because people will, well, some people agree, some

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Speaker 2: We will see what seed Houston gets based on tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: If Jacksonville loses, then Houston would get the four seed

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Speaker 4: Run out the clock. I think it was a bad situation. Now.

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Speaker 4: Don't blame the coach. Where do you What do you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I don't like the time out at all.

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Speaker 1: We discussed it. You would have had about fifty seconds left.

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Speaker 4: What was it? Oh it was Jaylen Milroe. It was

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Speaker 4: Jayalen Milroe.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the game, Yes, And I essentially said it wasn't

439
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Speaker 2: the perfect play call. But the biggest criticism I have

440
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Speaker 2: is when you don't put the ball in your best

441
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Speaker 2: playbacker's hands. And so Jonathan Taylor, the guy who held out,

442
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Speaker 2: the guy you gave the new contract to because he

443
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Speaker 2: was so important to what you're doing, he doesn't get

444
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Speaker 2: the ball in that spot. You have a backup quarterback

445
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Speaker 2: on top of everything. It's not like you have Anthony

446
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Speaker 2: Richardson back there that can make a play with his legs,

447
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Speaker 2: with his arm, with whatever. I just didn't like anything

448
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Speaker 2: about it. I didn't like anything about the execution. And

449
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Speaker 2: really quickly, I'll say this, two things can be true

450
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Speaker 2: because people are are you know people are going to disagree.

451
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Speaker 2: Is we can separate what Shane Steiken did to even

452
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Speaker 2: get Indianapolis in this position from what he did in

453
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Speaker 2: the final minute and about ten seconds between the fourth

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Speaker 2: down time out between the play call between not having

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor on the field all that.

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Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, that's right. Him not being on the fields

457
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Speaker 1: kind of baffling to me, if nothing else, but because

458
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Speaker 1: you would have had to have respected him if he

459
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Speaker 1: was out there, I just think again, I mean, the

460
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Speaker 1: play actually would have worked, which is surprising. The fact

461
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Speaker 1: that it would have worked doesn't necessarily mean that I

462
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Speaker 1: agree with the decision to have gone with it, because

463
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons it didn't work is because the

464
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Speaker 1: guy who you were throwing to is a guy who

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Speaker 1: had not face pressure like that. He wasn't a guy

466
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Speaker 1: that had ever been expected to make a play like that,

467
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Speaker 1: and you're going to go with him. And look, I

468
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Speaker 1: like to trust and I like what you're saying about

469
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Speaker 1: your young talent. And I think Stichen is a brilliant

470
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Speaker 1: guy and certainly overachieved with this Colt's team in year one,

471
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Speaker 1: considering some of the things that they did out with.

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Speaker 1: But simultaneously, this was just poorly handled in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes. I don't think there is anybody out

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Speaker 1: there that can give me a defense of trying to

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Speaker 1: draw them off on fourth and one and costing yourself

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Speaker 1: a chance to if it mean you basically eliminated your

477
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Speaker 1: failsafe to try and get a cheap five yard penalty,

478
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Speaker 1: which I mean it works once in a while, but

479
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Speaker 1: not usually very often, not against anybody well coached, because

480
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be prepared for it. They're gonna be taught

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Speaker 1: to be prepared for it. If you, honestly, you'd have

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Speaker 1: been better off stich and just calling the play right there,

483
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Speaker 1: but calling it late in the clock where it looked

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Speaker 1: like you were trying to draw them off, and then

485
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Speaker 1: with two seconds left you actually snapped the ball and

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Speaker 1: go with the exact same play call at the very

487
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Speaker 1: least when you failed. If you failed, you still would

488
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Speaker 1: have preserved that extra time off the clock because you

489
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Speaker 1: still would have had that time out to call when

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Speaker 1: you gave them the football back instead, you pretty much

491
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Speaker 1: ended the game right there.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Jason, there's a lot more to

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Speaker 2: peel back here. Do want to continue the conversation on

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Speaker 2: this game Indianapolis and Houston? De Sager's going to give

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Speaker 2: you all the details, So let's go ahead and do that.

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Speaker 2: Let's get it over the news desk to Sager. Tell

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Speaker 2: us what's trending.

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Speaker 6: One other thing that's a crusher if you're a Colts fan.

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Speaker 6: Let's not forget the field goal that was missed in

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Speaker 6: the third quarter. It had the distance from fifty seven.

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Speaker 4: And hit the upright.

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Speaker 6: If they make that field goal, they don't need a

503
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Speaker 6: touchdown in the last two minutes where they turned it

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Speaker 6: over on downs. They were in the red zone when

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Speaker 6: they threw that fourth and one incompletion on the screen

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Speaker 6: that you're.

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Speaker 1: Talking about.

508
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Speaker 2: Late third field goal hits the hits the upright and

509
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Speaker 2: like you said, it had the length, it just hit

510
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Speaker 2: the upright and.

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Speaker 6: They would have been down twenty three to twenty going

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Speaker 6: into that last Colts drive. Instead, Jonathan Taylor as one

513
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Speaker 6: hundred and eighty eight yards rushing and a score, but

514
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Speaker 6: the Colts season is over. They are eliminated, losing it

515
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Speaker 6: home to the Houston Texans twenty three to nineteen guys.

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Speaker 6: In the last fifteen years of NFL history, only one

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Speaker 6: team has made the playoffs with a rookie quarterback and

518
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Speaker 6: a first year head coach. That was ironically a Colts

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Speaker 6: team with Andrew Luck in twenty twelve and coach Chuck Bagano,

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Speaker 6: but now a rookie quarterback c J. Stroud, who had

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Speaker 6: two touchdown passes in the first half. Tamiko Ryans, the

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Speaker 6: rookie head coach, is going to the postseason. Texans ten

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Speaker 6: and seven win at Indy twenty three to nineteen and

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Speaker 6: with two injured wide receivers tonight as well, Noah Brown

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Speaker 6: Robert Woods out so Nico Collins was targeted nine times

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Speaker 6: and he wound up with nine catches, one hundred and

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Speaker 6: ninety five yards and a touchdown. Jacksonville quarterback Trevor Lawrence,

528
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Speaker 6: with a bad shoulder, is a game time decision for tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: Jacksonville can clinch the AFC South with a win at

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Speaker 6: Tennessee on Sunday. Whoever the ANFC South winner is will

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Speaker 6: be the number four seed and host Cleveland next weekend

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Speaker 6: in the playoff. Better chance for the Steelers to be

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Speaker 6: in the postseason after Pittsburgh won in the rain at

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Speaker 6: Baltimore today seventeen to ten, Najee Harris one hundred twelve

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Speaker 6: yards rushing in a score. The very bad news for

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Speaker 6: Pittsburgh is superstar pass rusher TJ. Watt, who had two

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Speaker 6: more sacks today nineteen for the season, left with what's

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Speaker 6: called a sprained MCL hit by a teammate. NFL Network

539
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Speaker 6: says it's a Grade three sprain, so more serious, more

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Speaker 6: tests coming tomorrow. It does not seem realistic that TJ.

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Speaker 6: Watt would be playing already next weekend after today's injury.

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Speaker 6: You could tell by the way he was pounding the

543
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Speaker 6: turf as soon as he got hit, how immediately he

544
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Speaker 6: knew that this was potentially serious. LSU wide receiver Malik

545
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Speaker 6: Neighbors declared for the NFL Draft. College Football's National title

546
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Speaker 6: game is Monday night. In the NBA, Warriors, forward Draymond

547
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Speaker 6: Green was reinstated by the league after missing twelve games

548
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Speaker 6: due to suspension. John Moran to the Grizzlies is questionable

549
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Speaker 6: for tomorrow with a sore shoulder. The Houston Rockets beat

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Speaker 6: Milwaukee tonight in one of the four NBA games one twelve,

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Speaker 6: one oh eight, despite Jiannistennekompo piling up forty eight points

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Speaker 6: and seventeen rebounds. UTAH one at Philadelphia, Joel Embii did

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Speaker 6: not play due to a knee injury. Road wins for

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Speaker 6: New York and Boston. The Celtics record is twenty eight

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Speaker 6: and seven. As for the late game. In college hoops,

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati is now leading at twelf's ranked BYU fifty three

557
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Speaker 6: fifty one with about ten minutes to go. Number two

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Speaker 6: Kansas EDGTCU eighty three eighty one. Number six Kentucky got

559
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Speaker 6: a two point win at Florida eighty seven eighty five.

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Speaker 6: Seaton Haul upset Number seven Marquettes seventy eight seventy five.

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Speaker 6: Again NFL wins for Pittsburgh and Houston today. The NFL

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Speaker 6: regular season ends tomorrow night with Miami hosting Buffalo. That

563
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Speaker 6: winner takes the AFC East title and the number two seed.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Sega,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Live Air towards Jason Martin

566
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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios. Let's put

567
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a bow on this game, Jason,

568
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Speaker 2: one more time.

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Speaker 4: Want to reiterate.

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Speaker 2: Late in the fourth quarter, Indianapolis was trailing Houston twenty

571
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Speaker 2: three to seventeen. At Seger said it was a great point.

572
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: Indianapolis missed a field goal in the third quarter that

573
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Speaker 2: hit the upright that obviously would have made it a

574
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Speaker 2: three point game. A field goal would have tied things

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Speaker 2: up and potentially send it to overtime, where it gets

576
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Speaker 2: Dicey in the red zone about a minute to go,

577
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Speaker 2: Indianapolis fourth down, decides to put Gardner Minshew Gardner Minshew

578
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Speaker 2: in the shotgun. They then call a timeout. They then

579
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Speaker 2: come out of the timeout, run a play. Pass hits

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Speaker 2: Tyler Goodson in the hands, he drops it. It wasn't

581
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Speaker 2: a great pass, so I don't want to make it

582
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Speaker 2: sound like it was Tyler Goodson's fault, but you know,

583
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: better pass probably would have been first down. But again,

584
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Speaker 2: the big story here, Jason, was that the timeout that

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Speaker 2: was called on fourth down, it appeared as though Shane

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Speaker 2: Steikeen was simply trying to draw was trying to simply

587
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: trying to draw Houston. Excuse me, off sides, that time

588
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: out ended up costing them because they burned a time out,

589
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: they had two left and Houston was able to take

590
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Speaker 2: the clock down to one second to seal the game.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk about Houston in a second, Jason, But

592
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Speaker 2: this is just again what I just go back to

593
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Speaker 2: is two things can be true. You can appreciate, you

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Speaker 2: can respect what Shane Stiken did to put Indianapolis in

595
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Speaker 2: this position, but the last minute and change was not ideal,

596
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Speaker 2: especially because again as you said, as Desager said, Jonathan Taylor,

597
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Speaker 2: your star running back. The guy get paid all that money.

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Speaker 2: You spent all that time arguing within the preseason. He

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Speaker 2: got paid and he was on the sidelines for the

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Speaker 2: biggest play of the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't like he had, you know, fifteen

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Speaker 1: carries for twenty yards. This guy had thirty carries for

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Speaker 1: one eight. I'm gonna go ahead and trust them to

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Speaker 1: get the yard more than just about anybody else in

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Speaker 1: that circumstance, actually on that team, definitely more than anybody else,

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Speaker 1: and you don't do it and you end up losing

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Speaker 1: that game. I have seen. I was just looking at

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Speaker 1: kind of the replies to live updates from the game

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Speaker 1: over at the Athletic and some people, multiple people have

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Speaker 1: actually mentioned that on the fourth down play the officials

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Speaker 1: missed and edge rusher off sides for Houston, that they

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Speaker 1: didn't call it and they're calling bad officiating again, that

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Speaker 1: that is not the same as what we saw last week.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether that's true or not. I haven't

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Speaker 1: gone back to see it, but I'm glad we're not.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that's not really a talking point. I just

617
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Speaker 1: happened to see it mentioned by a couple of people,

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Speaker 1: this was one where the Colts really were in the

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Speaker 1: driver's seat because of the missed extra point. The Sega's

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Speaker 1: point is dead right, Matt Gay. That would have been

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Speaker 1: a career long for him at fifty seven, but it

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Speaker 1: did have the distance and it goes off the Crossbard.

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Speaker 1: Now we have no idea what game happens after that.

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Speaker 1: If he makes that field goal, everything else could change,

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Speaker 1: Like everything that we just saw wouldn't have happened exactly

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Speaker 1: the same had he made the field goal as opposed

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Speaker 1: to missed it. But the point still stands that you

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00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: cost yourself three, but you still found yourself down six

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Speaker 1: and your coach I think he mismanaged the situation. I

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Speaker 1: think he may have outthought himself a few times, maybe

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Speaker 1: out cleverd himself. And as a result, the Houston Texans

632
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Speaker 1: go to the playoffs. Luckily, that's I think the result

633
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Speaker 1: most of us wanted for the sheer sake of we

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Speaker 1: want to see CJ. Stroud in the playoffs. We want

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Speaker 1: to see this team that I think is a very

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Speaker 1: exciting young team to watch. I want to see them

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Speaker 1: in the postseason and see what they can do. See

638
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Speaker 1: how young they look or see how you know, wise

639
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Speaker 1: beyond their years. Maybe they look as opposed to an

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00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: Indianapolis team that really I still am kind of baffled

641
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Speaker 1: by how they found themselves this close to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: based on just not having a whole lot of skill

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Speaker 1: talent and dealing with injuries all year long. And they

644
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Speaker 1: had a first year coach as well. I mean this

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00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: was two first year Hey coach is playing in a

646
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: winner your in scenario. So both I think both franchises

647
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of positives to take from this. But

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00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: I think Stike and I think Stiken got caught. I

649
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: think he got tripped up by himself and didn't have

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Speaker 1: somebody to bail him out on the SILA as to say,

651
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: hey man, let's not do this, and sometimes that can

652
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: bite you, and hopefully he'll learn from it.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason, I want to come back, and

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Speaker 2: when we do, want to discuss the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 4: They are now in.

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Speaker 2: We do not know quite yet who they are going

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Speaker 2: to play, but we'll discuss what this means for Houston,

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Speaker 2: what kind of threat they potentially are, and where the

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Speaker 2: ending up Appolis Colts go from here. Ertors Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: in on a busy Saturday night, Fox Sports Trading.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio er Torris Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tirec dot com studios. The news

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Speaker 2: of the night the Houston Texans twenty three Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 2: nineteen with the way in the Houston Texans clinch a

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Speaker 2: playoff berth. If you miss some of the particulars, make

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Speaker 2: sure to go back and download the podcast available after

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Speaker 2: the show. But Jason want to go ahead and break

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Speaker 2: down what's next? Right, So with Houston, we do not

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Speaker 2: yet know where they will be seated. I'll quickly lay

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Speaker 2: out the scenarios. If Jacksonville loses tomorrow, Houston then is

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Speaker 2: the AFC South champ. They then host a playoff game

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Speaker 2: next weekend. How about that? If Jacksonville wins and Buffalo loses,

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Speaker 2: then Houston is the sixth seed and in that scenario

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Speaker 2: would go to Kansas City. I believe that's a lock

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Speaker 2: to Sagas giving me the thumbs up. I trust to Seger.

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Speaker 2: And then obviously, of course, if Buffalo were to win,

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Speaker 2: then if Buffer lower to win in Jacksonville to win,

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville wins the division, Buffalo wins the AFC East, Miami

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Speaker 2: is the sixth seed, Houston is the seventh seed. They

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Speaker 2: would then go Burns out and then Pittsburgh's out. Yes,

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Speaker 2: with Houston, I know it's hard to know. We don't

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Speaker 2: know if they're playing at home, we don't know if

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Speaker 2: they're playing on the road. There's a bunch of different scenarios.

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Speaker 2: How do you just feel about them going in? I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously this season has been a success, going from the

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Speaker 2: second overall pick to a playoff berth. But I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you with CJ. Stroud, you know, it depends. We'll see

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Speaker 2: if they're playing in bad weather, maybe they're playing in

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Speaker 2: the Dome in Houston, they'll be dangerous though whoever they

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Speaker 2: face next weekend.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's true for most of the

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Speaker 1: teams in the AFC. They could be dangerous. But I

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Speaker 1: think you're right. I mean, I think that CJ. Stroud's

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Speaker 1: such an impressive person. He's an impressive player, but he's

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Speaker 1: an impressive person and an impressive leader this early in

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Speaker 1: his run. Like I'm actually I feel just inadequate for

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Speaker 1: being that wrong on the number one pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: And there's nothing against Bryce Young as a person here either.

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Speaker 1: But I listened to CJ. Stroud after the game doing

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Speaker 1: a commercial break, doing a postgame on the field, and

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Speaker 1: he's just an incredibly impressive person, and like listening to him,

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Speaker 1: it's just there is something about it that you can

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Speaker 1: immediately look at and listen to and know, Okay, this

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Speaker 1: shouldn't surprise anybody who's doing this. It's amazing to me,

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Speaker 1: quite frankly. And if you've got him, and you've got

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Speaker 1: the kind of chemistry he has with Nico Collins, and

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Speaker 1: you've got a very smart head coaching Tamiko Ryans, and

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Speaker 1: you've got a defense that's young, but you've got like

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson, who's got the sack record for the franchise

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Speaker 1: as a rookie seven already going into this game tonight,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to think they can't make noise. I mean,

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Speaker 1: think about it. If let's say they do host the Browns.

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Speaker 1: We know the Browns defense is really good and Kevin

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Speaker 1: Stefanski's running solid offense, but it is Flacco. I mean

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Speaker 1: it is the same guy that was signed around Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: that was sitting at home prior to that. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: been he's been playing great. But is it just a

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Speaker 1: shoe in that they're gonna walk in and meet the Texas.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think this Texans team is

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Speaker 1: the one team that you would have hoped, maybe would

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Speaker 1: have been on the outside looking in if you're another team,

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Speaker 1: because they do have a couple of guys that right

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Speaker 1: now it seems like most of the league can't seem

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Speaker 1: to figure out because it's not like Stroud just came

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Speaker 1: on the last couple of weeks. He's kind of been

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Speaker 1: doing this all year long, and this is a That's

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Speaker 1: why I wanted him in because I want the playoffs

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Speaker 1: to just be loaded on both sides. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: have a dog directly in the fight because Denver's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be in. It's gonna make for better television and

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Speaker 1: the Texans are gonna be fun to watch, and honestly,

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Speaker 1: the Browns have been really fun to watch. If it

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Speaker 1: does turn out to be the Texans and the brown

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Speaker 1: I think that could be a heck of a matchup.

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Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent. And yeah, no, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm just excited. I'm just excited because and we led

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Speaker 2: this show with this. But you know, listen, nobody's rooting

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Speaker 2: against Indianapolis. Nobody isn't impressed by what they've done.

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Speaker 1: This since no no, no, no. That's a good point.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, it goes back

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Speaker 2: to the Alabama versus Florida State debate, like if you

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Speaker 2: gotta choose one, Now, this one's different because they obviously

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Speaker 2: actually played on the field, but like, if you got

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Speaker 2: to choose one that you got to watch sixty minutes

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Speaker 2: of football with, you want the one with the healthy quarterback,

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Speaker 2: with the dynamic quarterback, with the young head coach. Like,

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Speaker 2: there's just a lot to like here. And I'm with you,

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Speaker 2: is I think they're dangerous. I think they're fun. And obviously, look,

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Speaker 2: there's a scenario where they get a home playoff game

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Speaker 2: next week, and whether it is Buffalo coming to town,

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Speaker 2: whoever it would be, just makes it really interesting from

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Speaker 2: the Colts perspective. I mean, I don't know that there's

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Speaker 2: a take other than listen, we all know and we

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Speaker 2: talked about it in the first hour and We're gonna

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Speaker 2: continue the conversation throughout the rest of the show. We

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Speaker 2: all know it wasn't a banner final few minutes for

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Speaker 2: Shane Steiking, some of the play calling, some of the

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Speaker 2: personnel groupings were not coaches, but you could see it

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Speaker 2: if you were watching the game. I just bring it

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Speaker 2: up to very simply say, I assume that you're like

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Speaker 2: me in that you gotta feel good, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you gotta feel good if you're a Colt fan. Tonight sucks.

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Speaker 2: It's disappointing, you're bummed out about the way things went,

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Speaker 2: but you obviously have to feel like, Okay, this thing

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Speaker 2: is headed in the right direction. And I'll add this too,

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Speaker 2: Jason is you know, I think we all and I

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Speaker 2: certainly include myself in this, and I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: a it was a terrible take by me. I think

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Speaker 2: we all thought that we are just gonna hand this

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Speaker 2: division to the Jacksonville Jaguars for the next ten years

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Speaker 2: with Trevor Lawrence there, and now you look at it

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Speaker 2: and between Houston with CJ. Stroud, Indianapolis with Shane Stiken,

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Speaker 2: who had a great year despite the final minute and

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Speaker 2: change tonight, I think this completely changes how you look

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Speaker 2: at this division going forward, in addition to the Colts,

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Speaker 2: who I think obviously I will see how Anthony Richardson progresses,

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Speaker 2: but have a lot of interesting pieces.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I should have

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Speaker 1: meant this out loud out, but I mean you could

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Speaker 1: go back through the podcast when we picked the division.

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Speaker 1: I picked the Titans to win the division because I

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Speaker 1: said I needed to see more from Jacksonville before I

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Speaker 1: fully bought into it. So I think I was on

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Speaker 1: the right page on that side. Even though they may

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Speaker 1: end up winning the division, I still have seen the

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Speaker 1: same kind of flaws that I thought might exist, and

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Speaker 1: they're still dealing with injury woes. But Tennessee's the one

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Speaker 1: team it looks like they could have a new head coach.

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily expect that, but I know it's possible.

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Speaker 1: But they do maybe have the quarterback. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: whole division might have might have found their quarterback. But

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Speaker 1: I do think that Jacksonville if they had. And this

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Speaker 1: is why I don't believe in windows, Aaron, because if

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville had a window, it may have already closed. Because

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Speaker 1: if you asked me to pick right now, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: taking c J. Stroud for the next ten years over

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: I probably would too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think I haven't completely given up

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Speaker 2: aout Trevor Lawrence, but yeah, if you're only making me

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Speaker 2: pick one, I would probably choose c J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud. So very interesting. The cults are on the podium now.

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Speaker 2: We are going to monitor for anything interesting, certainly if

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Speaker 2: Shane Steichen says anything about the final minute or so

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Speaker 2: and the play calling.

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Speaker 4: But the Houston.

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Speaker 2: Texans have beat in the Indianapolis Colts twenty three to nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Texans are going to the playoffs. Tell you what will

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Speaker 2: come back? More reaction to this, and of course we

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Speaker 2: have to look ahead to a busy week in college

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Speaker 2: football National Championship on Monday. This is Fox Sports Trety

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, hour two Torres and Martin Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: buyings should be. As the Sagre just told you, we

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Speaker 2: do have a final in Houston or excuse me, in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: As the Houston Texans beat the Indianapolis Colts twenty three

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Speaker 2: to nineteen. With the win, Houston is in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We will see where they end up. They will be

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Speaker 2: the division champions if Jacksonville loses tomorrow. If Jacksonville wins,

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville is in and Houston would get a wild card.

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis is out with the loss. Jason, We'll get back

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Speaker 2: to this game momentarily, but do want to get to

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Speaker 2: what is obviously, you know, a pretty big game in

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Speaker 2: its own right on Monday night, ironically in the beautiful

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Speaker 2: city of Houston. That is where Michigan will play Washington

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Speaker 2: for the National Championship. And it's really fun. By the way,

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Speaker 2: if anybody missed it, Jason and I were filling in

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Speaker 2: for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon on Monday night, New

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Speaker 2: York Day, so we had a lot of time to

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Speaker 2: react to both the Rose Bowl Classic the We were

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Speaker 2: on air during the ending of the Classic at the

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Speaker 2: Sugar Bowl. Both plays come down to the five. Both games,

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Speaker 2: excuse me, come down to the final play. We now

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Speaker 2: have Michigan versus Washington Monday night in Houston. How fired

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Speaker 2: up are you for this one?

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Speaker 1: Jason? I mean, I think it's gonna be a really

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Speaker 1: fun game to watch. And I've waivered thinking about how

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna go. And I know we'll pick

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Speaker 1: it later on, but I mean, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: good storylines here and I think that you are starting

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Speaker 1: to see And we said this during the Sugar Bowl,

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Speaker 1: but certainly after the Sugar Bowl on Monday night when

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Speaker 1: we were filling in that you know Pennix in the draft. Well,

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Speaker 1: how many articles have you seen this week over the

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Speaker 1: last seven days about kind of looking at him again

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Speaker 1: for the NFL?

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Speaker 2: Can I jump in on this one quick? I don't

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Speaker 2: I understand why it happens, I really do. It is

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Speaker 2: kind of crazy. He said this on air. Is like,

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Speaker 2: is the guy has at this point like a fifty

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Speaker 2: game college sample size.

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Speaker 4: This year alone.

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Speaker 2: By the way, last year, Washington has the number one

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Speaker 2: passing attack at college football. This year, you know, he

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Speaker 2: finishes second in the Heisman. But there is something to

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Speaker 2: do to doing it on a national stage, even as

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Speaker 2: big as the Pac twelve championship game is, even as

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Speaker 2: it big as that Oregon win the first time they

866
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Speaker 2: played was. It's just different doing it on that national

867
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: stage now, should it be?

868
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: Probably not.

869
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: Does it really make that much of a difference in

870
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: the eyes of the evaluators who have probably been evaluating

871
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: this guy for four or five years, dating back to

872
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: his time at his previous stop in Indiana.

873
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 4: Probably not.

874
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: But from a public perception standpoint, I think it opened

875
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: a lot of people's eyes of like, well, I've heard

876
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: about him, and I've seen highlights, and maybe I watched

877
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: a little bit of that Oregon game, but this was

878
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: New Year's Day, standalone game, no other sports on. And

879
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: I tend to think a lot of people had to

880
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: work a Tuesday morning, so you work going out, you

881
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: weren't having drinks.

882
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 4: He just sat there and watched football. And it's kind

883
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 4: of crazy because it shouldn't.

884
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: Be like that, but it was, Jason, and I totally

885
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: stole the baton from you. I'll give it right back,

886
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: but it is kind of crazy how all that happened.

887
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but at least people have taken notice, and Pennix

888
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: is going to have an opportunity on Monday to write

889
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: an incredible final chapter. If he goes out there and

890
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: he's able to really succeed against the Michigan secondary and

891
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: put on another show anywhere close to what we saw

892
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: against Texas, which is going to be a challenge certainly.

893
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: Then even more eyes are going to be opened, and

894
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: you're going to see him continue to be talked about

895
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: more and more in the pre draft process. But he's

896
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: gone from not really being discussed amongst those couple of

897
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks up near the top too. Well, he should probably

898
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: go top twelve. Now I've seen that in multiple articles. Well, yeah,

899
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: that's probably so and should be and should have been already.

900
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: The injury red flags are really the only thing. But

901
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if past injuries means anything

902
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: considering how many present injuries we see from people that

903
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt very often once they got to the NFL. So,

904
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean, injury rate in the NFL is one hundred percent.

905
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen to everybody at some point in time.

906
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix Junior has been an absolute beast, and he's

907
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: going to have that opportunity on a national stage and

908
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: then on a flip side for Michigan. I mean, we

909
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: know what those storylines are, including the potential asterisk attached

910
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: to the Championship Hardball's future. All of these things are

911
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: going to be put together into what I think should

912
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: be a really entertaining title game, one where I don't

913
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: expect one team to run away from the other one

914
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: and there's no SEC for the first time in a

915
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: long time.

916
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: Would you say, and this might be too simplistic for

917
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: this game, but would you say, this comes down to

918
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 2: who dictates, like who gets to play their game? And

919
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: what I mean by that, if Michigan, and we've seen

920
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: them literally against Penn State, they ran the ball thirty

921
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: something times in a row, if they're able to just

922
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: beat Washington up at the line of scrimmage and run

923
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: the ball and move the chains. And I'm not saying

924
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: that will happen, by the way, because Washington ran the

925
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: ball effectively against Texas, they ran the ball effectively against Oregon.

926
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: They stop the run in both cases. So I'm not

927
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 2: saying it will happen. But if Michigan, I just see

928
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: it as who can dictate what, Because if Michigan can

929
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: dictate running the ball between the trenches, clock choose up

930
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: this and that keep Michael Pennix off the field. It

931
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: feels obvious, but its advantage of Michigan opposite Washington wins

932
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: the coin toss come down six plays eighty two yards

933
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: a minute, twenty off the clock, and Michigan's already down

934
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: seven to nothing, and then they're playing from behind. Then

935
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 2: it's all of a sudden, a huge advantage to Washington.

936
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: It sounds simplistic, but I really feel like if Michigan's

937
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: are running the ball and chewing up clock, it's advantage them.

938
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: If Washington can get up and put Michigan and put

939
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: pressure on Michigan to get out of their comfort zone,

940
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: then it's advantage Washington.

941
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 4: Is it that simple?

942
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: Yes, And it sounds simple because it is simple, because

943
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: sometimes it's pretty cut and dry. I mean, I think

944
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: I said similar things on Monday night. The best offense

945
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: for Michigan is going to be keeping Michael Pennix Junior

946
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. If he is standing there frustrated watching

947
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: Michigan get you know, four yards and a cloud of

948
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: dust basically, and get these first downs on third down

949
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: and four and keep drives alive and limit Penix's actual

950
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: time on the field. The Michigan's got an excellent chance

951
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: to win the game if it turns into a track meet.

952
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: Washington's going to be the national champions. If it turns

953
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: into a shootout. I don't think Michigan can win that

954
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: kind of game. Maybe they can, but I don't think so.

955
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: I think Michigan has to rely on being physical at

956
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: the point of attack, running the ball effectively, which means,

957
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: you know, blocking well. And they've seen tougher fronts than

958
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: they'll see against Washington. But Washington's defense has improved in

959
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: the backstretch of the season. But that's absolutely right. Who's

960
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: going to dictate it? If Pennis and that offense are

961
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: dictating tempo and dictating pace of play, Washington will win.

962
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: If Michigan is able to slow it down, ugly it up,

963
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: and make it more of an old school kind of game,

964
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 1: then Washington is going to have a very difficult time

965
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: handling it. So, yeah, it sounds simple because it is simple.

966
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: And that's because in this case, it's pretty easy to see.

967
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: You know, styles make fights.

968
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

969
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: Do you.

970
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: As far as Harbaugh's future is concerned, We'll talk about

971
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: the asterisk here in a second. Do you think it's

972
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 2: already been decided? Do you think like you know? Because

973
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: I think there's you know, really two different scenarios you

974
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: could discuss. I mean, obviously, if you don't win. As

975
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, let me ask you this. I

976
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: saw Chris and Rob the Odd Couple talk about this

977
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: earlier this week. Does Jim Harbaugh need to win a

978
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: national championship to truly fulfill what he came to Michigan

979
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 2: to do. This is assuming, of course, that he would

980
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: leave after this game. And we've seen all the reports

981
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: that multiple organizations are doing their due diligence blah blah

982
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 2: blah blah whatever. Do you feel like if he doesn't win,

983
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: the mission isn't accomplished? Or do you feel like he's

984
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: done basically everything that he's been asked to do. Obviously,

985
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: three straight wins over Ohio State, three Big Ten championships,

986
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: and if he were to leave you it'd be hunky dory.

987
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the ultimate goal is in Natty.

988
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: I think he's done one of the two things that

989
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: he was brought there to do. One of the two

990
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: things he was brought there to do. Aaron was flipped

991
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: the script on the Ohio State rivalry, and he's done that.

992
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: Over the last three years. He has successfully They've supplanted

993
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: Ohio State they've become the big dog in the conference.

994
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: And if you then capture a national championship on Monday,

995
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: especially having to go through Nick Saban to do it, yes,

996
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: we can talk about all the scandal and everything else,

997
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: but if you pull that off, then you really don't

998
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: have anything left to do. The chances of a dynasty,

999
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: quite frankly, are going to be real tough. And as such,

1000
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: I still believe that Harball's heart is more in the

1001
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: Pros than in college. But this is a guy, let's

1002
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: not forget, this is a guy in Jim Harball that

1003
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: made it to a super Bowl and lost. So then

1004
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: he would be a guy who made it to the

1005
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and lost, and then rather quickly thereafter left

1006
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: the Pros, goes to college. Now he's going to make

1007
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: it to a national championship. Let's say he loses. It's

1008
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: basically the same story all over again, and reverse is

1009
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 1: he going to go down as a great head coach

1010
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: who could never win the ultimate prize in either sport

1011
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: because he's knocked on the door of both. And this

1012
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: is obviously the biggest game of his career outside of

1013
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl against his brother.

1014
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 4: It is interesting I hadn't even thought of it.

1015
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 2: From that perspective, as he goes to the Super Bowl,

1016
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: what is it the next year he goes to the

1017
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: NFC Championship Game, final year, it doesn't go well, whatever,

1018
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: he's out. This would be a very similar scenario. Yeah,

1019
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: I hadn't really thought of that. I think it's interesting.

1020
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: I do think that he's done his job. I mean,

1021
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 2: you know, whatever, we'll we'll leave it up to him.

1022
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: I mean, but he has flipped the script. The program

1023
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: is in a great place. And I'll say this too,

1024
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: you know, I think there's a conversation about what makes

1025
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: it more likely that he comes back a winner or

1026
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: loss or whatever.

1027
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 4: I just sit there and say exactly what you said is.

1028
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: I don't I think the days of pretty much anybody

1029
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: gripping off, you know, I guess we haven't seen three

1030
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 2: in a row pretty much ever, but you know, three

1031
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: and four years, four and six years, it's just going

1032
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 2: to be so hard. And I think, listen, I don't

1033
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: know that this would be a reason for him to leave.

1034
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: The reason for him the leave is because he wants

1035
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: to go back to the NFL. He wants the opportunity

1036
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 2: to win a Super Bowl, all of that. But I

1037
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: also do think, and this was something we talked about

1038
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: I think on Monday when we filled in for Jason

1039
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: and Mike.

1040
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 4: I don't think it's ever gonna be a better scenario.

1041
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Bernie Frattle can give us the stats

1042
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: on I think it's forty four seniors on this roster,

1043
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: a lot of COVID guys.

1044
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 4: Blake Korum, guy who scored.

1045
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: I think it was the game winning touchdown in overtime,

1046
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: as a fifth year guy that if it wasn't for

1047
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: the COVID transfer would not be he wouldn't have even

1048
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: been able to come back this year. And he does.

1049
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: And so you look at that, you look at the

1050
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: fact that now there's gonna be at least one more

1051
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: postseason game, and depending on how the how things break,

1052
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: there's gonna be two. I just think it sets up

1053
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: for a very interesting scenario for all of these schools because,

1054
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: on the one hand, you no longer have to beat

1055
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: Ohio State, you know, no longer have to win the

1056
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: Big Ten to get to this point, but you're also

1057
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: gonna have to go through Oregon, Washington, USC, etc.

1058
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 4: It's gonna be harder to get there.

1059
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: I don't say it's gonna be harder, but it's gonna

1060
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: be a different path to get there. The path won't

1061
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: be easier. I don't think it's a reason that Jim

1062
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: Harbaugh is really considered. But I also think if you

1063
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: get to Monday night and you don't win it, I

1064
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: don't think you're ever gonna have a better scenario than

1065
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: what you have this season.

1066
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: So I think that's right. I mean, I think that,

1067
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: and I think the point about the conference is the

1068
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 1: one that I would make first, and that is it's

1069
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: just gonna get The regular season is gonna be much

1070
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: more of a meat grinder. Not that it has been

1071
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: just a total cake walk, but this year a lot

1072
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: of it has been cond of cakewalk, and no longer

1073
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: is it going to be. You're probably still gonna make

1074
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: the postseason because it's a top twelve scenario, but these

1075
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: days of undefeated running through that ain't gonna happen. Like,

1076
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: that's just not a thing that I think we're gonna

1077
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: see very often. So this is the final year of

1078
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: the fourteen playoff. You're in the four team, you have

1079
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: a chance at the national championship. Totally agree this is

1080
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Speaker 1: the shot. Sometimes you can look at it and just

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Speaker 1: pinpoint it and say it's not a scenario of oh,

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00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: we're just waiting for win. Not if no, it's like,

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00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: if not now, then win because it's going to get

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00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: so much much more difficult due to the strength of

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Speaker 1: schedule change that you're going to endure because of the

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Speaker 1: new conference, and having to potentially go through a few

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Speaker 1: more games in the playoffs themselves to get to a

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00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: potential championship game. Add to that just the rigors of

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Speaker 1: recruiting and all of those things. I think, again, if

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Speaker 1: the Chargers offer the gig to him, he's gone. I

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00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: think if the Chargers offer him a chance to go

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Speaker 1: coach justin Herbert, in California where he loves it, San Diego,

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Speaker 1: where he had his first job as a college head

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00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: coach at USD, if he's able to go do that,

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Speaker 1: I think he's gone one hundred percent. I don't even

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00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: think it's a very long choice. I think he has

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Speaker 1: gone as soon as that opportunity is open. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that there is another job that opens in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and maybe I'm forgetting one where I think that it

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Speaker 1: makes this nearly as much sense to leave. I think

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Speaker 1: that the Herbert scenario and just the way Harbaugh is

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Speaker 1: with quarterbacks and how much he loves great quarterbacks and

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00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: loves that position. I think you got something there. But

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Speaker 1: if they're not willing to pay him, the Chargers aren't

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Speaker 1: willing to pay what he's asking, I could still see

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Speaker 1: him go back to Michigan unless he's worried about what

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Speaker 1: else might come from the NCAA.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, Jason, when we come back,

1109
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: we'll go ahead and discuss some of those job openings.

1110
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: Carolina is open now, the Chargers are open now. The

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Speaker 2: question is what could be next and who could fill

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Speaker 2: those vacancies. We're gonna discuss it all here momentarily. Should mention,

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Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of football, football fans, be sure

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Speaker 2: to tune into Fox Sports Radio every Sunday morning, beginning

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00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 2: at ten am Eastern seven Pacific for Countdown to Kickoff

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1117
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. When we

1121
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: come back, continue the conversation on the college football play,

1122
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: but also turn our attention not only to Jim Harbaugh,

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Speaker 2: but the jobs that could open and who could fill

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Speaker 2: those jobs. That's all next, Ertors, Jason Martin. Busy Saturday

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Speaker 2: night into Sunday morning, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Er Toors, Jason Martin. We are broadcasting

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Speaker 2: and I from theti iraq dot com studios. Before the break,

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Speaker 2: we were talking about a little bit about Michigan and

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Speaker 2: Washington in the National championship game on Monday. We'll make

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Speaker 2: our picks at the end of the show really quick, Jason,

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Speaker 2: I did see this from Ross Dellinger of Sports Illustrated.

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Speaker 2: It was an article he wrote, so it's not I'm

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00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 2: not saying it was his opinion, but he raised the

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00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: question he spoke with some high ranking people. Ross is

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00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: really good at what he does about the idea of wood,

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00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: Michigan's Wood a national championship for Michigan. Would it have

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Speaker 2: an asterisk.

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Speaker 4: Next to it?

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Speaker 2: Obviously because of the sign stealing scandal that Michigan is

1140
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 2: still involved with. Obviously, Jim Harbaugh served a three game

1141
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: suspension courtesy of the Big Ten. We do not know

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Speaker 2: when the NCAA will act, how aggressively they will act.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that Michigan should at all have an

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00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: aster you know, a metaphorical They wouldn't have a literal,

1145
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: but a metaphorical asterisk next to this National championship if

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Speaker 2: they win it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they should, but in some people's eyes,

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Speaker 1: they will. No matter what, if they win, it doesn't

1149
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: matter what would come out after this. There won't be

1150
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: anything that will be enough to wipe away what other

1151
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: people what the conclusions already are I think I think

1152
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Speaker 1: for the for the most part, Would you agree that

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Speaker 1: I think most people have their opinion on this at

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Speaker 1: this point, and that it's probably not likely to change. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna get information that exonerates Michigan.

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Speaker 1: We may not get much more information that further implicates

1157
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Speaker 1: them past what we know. But it feels like everything's

1158
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: baked into the cake at this stage and we just

1159
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: kind of all sort of know where we stand. Do

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Speaker 1: I think it should have an asterisk attached to it?

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Speaker 1: It's tough to say, because you're attaching an asterisk to

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Speaker 1: a bunch of players who just went out and did

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Speaker 1: what they were told. To do, and then you have

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Speaker 1: to then circumstantially figure out, well, what of Connor Stallion's

1165
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: work and everything else, what of that actually ended up

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Speaker 1: on the field that benefited Michigan. And if you can

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Speaker 1: prove anything openly, then you can pull the asterisk card. Although,

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Speaker 1: as we've mentioned many times and many shows have through

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Speaker 1: the years, you can put the asterisk on it. If

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Speaker 1: we watch them beat Washington on Monday, that's what people

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Speaker 1: are going to remember. They might then try to turn

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Speaker 1: this thing into some kind of a larger, large talking point,

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Speaker 1: but generally speaking, once we see that game, if it

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Speaker 1: goes Michigan's way, that's that's gonna be the lasting memory

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Speaker 1: of this season.

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Speaker 2: Uh So, first of all, to your question about people

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Speaker 2: already having their minds made up.

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Speaker 4: The one thing that I have learned through the years, Jason.

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Speaker 2: Part of the reason that I, while I'm active on

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Speaker 2: social media, I don't generally respond to people. It's not

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Speaker 2: because I dislike you or I don't care about your opinion.

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Speaker 2: But my whole thing is I just put out my opinion.

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Speaker 4: I share it.

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Speaker 2: People can agree, they can disagree whatever I bring it up.

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Speaker 2: Because I the reason I stopped responding is because at

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Speaker 2: least in the one hundred and forty to however many

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Speaker 2: characters that we have on Twitter, you can't change people's opinion.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what it is.

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Speaker 2: If it's MJ versus Lebron, if it's Tom Brady is

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Speaker 2: the goat, Tom Brady is a cheater, if it's any

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Speaker 2: sports topic, generally, like, there's nothing you could say that

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Speaker 2: people that you'll change their their opinion, and so because

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Speaker 2: of it. I don't think that I don't think that

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Speaker 2: most people Actually, I take that back, I don't really

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Speaker 2: think that anybody that's sitting there like on the fence

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Speaker 2: right now or thinks that Michigan is cheating is so

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Speaker 2: or did cheat is going to change. I mean, Michigan

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Speaker 2: could win seventy two to nothing on Monday Night and

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Speaker 2: it wouldn't change people's opinion. And so people are certainly

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Speaker 2: in times of their opinions. All I will say is,

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Speaker 2: I think at this point, I think it's almost a moot.

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Speaker 2: Point is if you believe, first of all, I've always

1203
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Speaker 2: believed that that the all the Condor Stallion stuff was

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Speaker 2: a little bit overblown. You know, everybody is signed stealing,

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Speaker 2: but Connor Stallion's hired some guy to bring his iPhone

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Speaker 2: to a game, and it's like it probably helped. I

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Speaker 2: don't think it was the difference between them losing to

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Speaker 2: Minnesota and beating them fifty two.

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Speaker 4: To three or whatever, you know.

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Speaker 2: And so I bring it up because even if you

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Speaker 2: want to argue that Connor Stallion's had a huge impact

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Speaker 2: on everything, the bottom line is that since he left

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Speaker 2: Michigan has beaten Penn State in a game where they

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Speaker 2: didn't even know who their coach was gonna be until

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Speaker 2: an hour before kickoff. That was the game that Jim

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01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: Harball flew with the team to Happy Valley and they

1217
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Speaker 2: weren't sure who was coaching.

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Speaker 1: But they didn't know who Penn State's coach was gonna be.

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Speaker 1: They probably felt pretty good about themselves anyway.

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Speaker 2: Well, and then you could you could use that to

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Speaker 2: talk about Ohio State too. Oh boy, yep, no Ohio.

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Speaker 2: No Jim Harbaugh against Ohio State. And then they beat

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Speaker 2: the SEC champion Alabama, who did have Nick Saban. Now,

1224
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Speaker 2: Jim Harball was there, but Connor Stallions was not. And

1225
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Speaker 2: so it's like, you know, no Connter Stallions for basically

1226
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Speaker 2: half of the regular season, including their two biggest regular

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Speaker 2: season wins, a win in a Big Ten championship game

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Speaker 2: and a win over the SEC champion.

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Speaker 4: And so you take it from here, Jason.

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Speaker 2: If you think that there's no way to argue that

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Speaker 2: Michigan has anything other than a cheat, I can't talk

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Speaker 2: you out of it. But their biggest wins, including the

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Speaker 2: win over an SEC champion, and certainly if they were

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Speaker 2: to win on Monday Night against the second best team

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Speaker 2: in college football, I don't even think there's a debate

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Speaker 2: about there being an asterisk. But obviously, like you said, people.

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Speaker 1: Are gonna have their big Well, I mean, did they cheat.

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Speaker 4: By the letter of the rule? They did?

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Speaker 1: You okay, I mean so if you ma cheer, you're

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01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: not exactly saying the wrong thing. That's that's that's what

1241
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: did they cheat? But that again backs up to that

1242
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: backs up the same point though, that you're not going

1243
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: to change anybody's mind exactly if you think the cheated.

1244
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Speaker 1: They cheated, doesn't matter what they do. They cheated and

1245
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Speaker 1: they don't deserve it, and it's a pseudo champion, it

1246
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: s fugeesi all that kind of stuff. If you kind

1247
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: of don't care that much about this assume everybody's doing it.

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01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: Don't think counter stallion's had any impact on the big games.

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Speaker 1: Kind of the case you just laid out, then you're

1250
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: gonna be fine with the championship. You're not going to

1251
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: play an asterisk next to it. We know there's not

1252
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: going to be an asterisk next to it in the

1253
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: official records unless they actually do strip them of it,

1254
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Speaker 1: which I just kind of don't think is going to happen. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that mood is probably about right

1256
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's going to mount too much.

1257
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: In the end, we could dodge this entirely if Washington

1258
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: wins a game on Monday. That's the other thing. And

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Speaker 1: I know we're discussing a scenario here, but we're also

1260
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: discussing a game that could very easily go the opposite direction.

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Speaker 1: And that's a good thing. Like it's good that we

1262
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: have a game that's going to be that competitive. Now,

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Speaker 1: I do think McCarthy coming out and saying eighty percent

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01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: of college football team steel signs I don't need the

1265
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: what aboutism. I don't think that really helps your case.

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01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's whether it's true or not, I think

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01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: is almost irrelevant to the overarching point. But I also

1268
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: think that McCarthy has said some pretty thoughtful things about

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01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: how his team has rallied this season and how they've

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01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: believed in each other. And I think he's I think

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Speaker 1: he's I think he's represented the university extremely well. I

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Speaker 1: just thought that that was one maybe he would have

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Speaker 1: wanted back.

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Speaker 2: Interesting comments to say the least from JJ McCarthy. And yeah,

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01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: I listen. It's something that I know, you know, Jason

1276
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: and Mike are going to be on air after the game,

1277
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: and I know everybody will be talking about on Tuesday

1278
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: if Michigan does win.

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Speaker 4: Uh, And I think it's an interesting conversation.

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01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 2: I would just say that I personally think it's a

1281
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,479
Speaker 2: little ridiculous at this point to assume that the sign

1282
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 2: stealing had anything to do with with them winning the championship.

1283
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Air Tours, Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

1284
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 2: the Tireck dot Com studios. Come back, Jason, do you

1285
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 2: want to talk about Jim Harbaugh and this coaching carousel

1286
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 2: that's coming up. That's all next. Before we get to it, though,

1287
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: let's toss it over the news desk. Steve de Seger,

1288
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: what is trending my friend guys.

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Speaker 6: Injury news from NFL Network regarding the game to end

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Speaker 6: the regular season Sunday nights that the Dolphins will be

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Speaker 6: without running back Raheem Mostert and wide receiver Jalen Waddle

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Speaker 6: as they host Buffalo. Not expected to play according to

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Speaker 6: NFL Network due to their injuries knee and ankle, each

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Speaker 6: listed as questionable. Both did return to limited practice on Friday.

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Speaker 6: Keep in mind the winner tomorrow night takes the AFC

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Speaker 6: East title and the number two seed. Miami already without

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Speaker 6: Pro Bowl linebacker Bradley Chubb officially on ir now after

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Speaker 6: the torn acl last game he was playing. Late in

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Speaker 6: that last game, the loss at Baltimore, Miami's already clinched

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Speaker 6: a playoff spot. This is notable for the Steelers because

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Speaker 6: one of the way the Steelers kept the last playoff

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Speaker 6: spot in the AFC thanks to a win today. They

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Speaker 6: also need a Buffalo loss Sunday night or at Jacksonville

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Speaker 6: lost during the day tomorrow, but Steelers notable that They're

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Speaker 6: probably got a raised eyebrow after hearing that report. As

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Speaker 6: for the Steelers, they did win in the rain at

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Speaker 6: Baltimore today seventeen to ten. But injury news from Pittsburgh

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Speaker 6: more tests tomorrow at Steelers Star linebacker TJ. Watt, who

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Speaker 6: had two more sacks today, left with what's called a

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Speaker 6: sprained MCL. Tom Pelasero NFL Network points out that with

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Speaker 6: the Texans making the playoffs, this is now every season

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Speaker 6: since nineteen ninety at least four NFL teams make the

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Speaker 6: playoffs after failing to do so the year before. Texans

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Speaker 6: are in Rams are back in the postseason. Cleveland and

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Speaker 6: Detroit are in the playoffs this year. Houston goes to

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Speaker 6: the postseason thanks to tonight's win at Indianapolis twenty three

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Speaker 6: to nineteen. The Colts are eliminated. The Colts with about

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Speaker 6: one minute left through incomplete on fourth and one. Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 6: despite battling an ankle injury, had thirty carries in the game,

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Speaker 6: one hundred and eighty eight yards and a touchdown in

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Speaker 6: the loss. The Colts on third down conversions went one

1322
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Speaker 6: four eleven. As for the going to the NFL News,

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Speaker 6: LSU wide receiver Malik Neighbors made it official declaring for

1324
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Speaker 6: the NFL Draft and Yes, college Football's national title game

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Speaker 6: is Monday night. Number one Michigan fourteen and OHO against

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Speaker 6: number two Washington fourteen and oh in Houston. In the

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Speaker 6: NBA's late game in Houston, the Rockets beat Milwaukee won

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Speaker 6: twelve one oh eight despite Gianni s Attenacumpo piling up

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Speaker 6: forty eight points and seventeen rebounds. Houston had just lost

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Speaker 6: last night by twenty seven to Minnesota and pulled off

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Speaker 6: the upset at home. Tonight, Houston won at Philadelphia won

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Speaker 6: twenty to one oh nine. Joel Embiid did not play

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Speaker 6: for Philly due to a knee injury. Sixers from three

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Speaker 6: point range were seven of thirty eight for Utah and

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Speaker 6: victory Lowry Market in thirty three points road wins for

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Speaker 6: Boston and New York Warriors. Forward Draymond Green was reinstated

1337
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Speaker 6: by the league after missing twelve games due to suspension.

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Speaker 6: John Morant to the Grizzlies is questionable for tomorrow with

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Speaker 6: a sore shoulder. Luka Donsich of Dallas out last night

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Speaker 6: with ankle swelling. Jimmy Butler the Heat missed a third

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Speaker 6: straight game last night with a foot injury, and Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 6: with a strain hamstring, has missed three straight games, including

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Speaker 6: last night and then an injury for Golden State last night.

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Speaker 6: Chris Paul broke his left hand in the game. He

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Speaker 6: will have surgery in the coming week. To college basketball,

1346
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 6: the late game went to Cincinnati winning at number twelve

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Speaker 6: BYU seventy one to sixty each team twelve and two

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Speaker 6: narrow wins for number two Kansas over TCU and number

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Speaker 6: six Kentucky, which won by two at Florida Seaton Haul

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Speaker 6: upset number seven Marquettes seventy eight to seventy five. And

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Speaker 6: one final note, guys, as the Texans are going to

1352
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 6: the postseason, can we just say out loud, be careful

1353
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Speaker 6: of those grades that you read about after the NFL

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Speaker 6: draft takes place.

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Speaker 4: I mean Jason Martins grad he gave them an F

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Speaker 4: for taking CJ. Strouds.

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Speaker 6: There was no okay no for the draft class of

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Speaker 6: the Houston Texans. ESPN gave it a B Pro Football

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01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 6: Focus a B minus for the rookie class. They had

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Speaker 6: the number two and three pick and there all selections

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Speaker 6: in the first round and took CJ. Stroud On offense

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Speaker 6: and Will andersound and in the third round got receiver

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01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 6: tanked Dell from the University of Houston. Without that draft

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Speaker 6: class they're.

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Speaker 1: Not in the playoffs to not even close.

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Speaker 6: Houston last year had three wins at a tie, the

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Speaker 6: year before only four wins, and the year before that

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Speaker 6: only four wins. And this is with three or four

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Speaker 6: different head coaches the last three years. But yeah, sure,

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Speaker 6: B minus grade for the draft class. Just keep that

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Speaker 6: in mind. Oh and also from the We're all human department,

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Speaker 6: did you notice the graphics for ESPN in these two games?

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Speaker 6: Aside from I mean they had to weather the storm

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Speaker 6: quite literally in that Pittsburgh telecast to try and pull

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Speaker 6: that off at all, the blurriness of the fifty yard

1376
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,919
Speaker 6: line camera, but postgame interview with John Harbaugh, the graphics

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Speaker 6: said Jim Harbaugh, is we're talking to.

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, is he taken over for Baltimore's Is that.

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Speaker 1: They already had They already had the graphic for when

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Speaker 1: he takes.

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Speaker 4: The job, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: And John Harmore retiring tonight at Indy it showed the

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Speaker 6: final score and the picture of the stadium and said

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Speaker 6: our a Dome Indianapolis, which many have pointed out online

1385
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Speaker 6: was demolished.

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Speaker 1: About fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 6: It's proving me it humans make up those graphics. We

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Speaker 6: see back to.

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Speaker 4: You, you're saying they should be replaced with robots. To

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01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 4: say your I'm just saying we're all human. Oh okay, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: all right.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Erra towards Jason Martin to say your

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01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 2: way back here in just a few moments, Jason, Well,

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01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 2: we're not gonna have a ton of time to really

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01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 2: dive into this coach a Karrosel stuff. Maybe we get

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01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: to it an hour three. Excuse me, what do you

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Speaker 2: think is most intriguing? And I'll just lay it out. Obviously,

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01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: Carolinas open, the chargers are open. We expect almost certainly

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Speaker 2: Washington to be open. Vegas is like a probably I

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Speaker 2: would say sixty five thirty five that it will open.

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01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 2: I know that, you know there's push from the players

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01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: to keep this.

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Speaker 1: Well, the head has to open because they this is

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01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: a crazy truth. They still have to interview two minority

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01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: candidates because of the Rooney rule. Even if they want

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: to hire Antonio Pierce this time I checked, is a

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: minority head coach or a minority interim head coach in

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01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: the NFL is so they can't give him the job.

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Speaker 1: They still have to interview two candidates. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that until like thirty minutes ago, and I read it

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01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 1: in an article and I was just like, really, is

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Speaker 1: that true? That seems insane to me.

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Speaker 4: But he could count as the interview, right for at

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Speaker 4: least for the head coach.

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Speaker 1: They have to do two other ones.

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01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 4: Why would that be?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, that's what I'm saying. The article

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Speaker 1: baffled me. But either way, they can't just hand him

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01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: the job even if they want to. They still have

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01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: to go through this process, even though he is a

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Speaker 1: minority coach right now, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, so Vegas, in some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: Will It's going to be open for a little while.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if they get a new head coach. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what are you most intrigued? Obviously, Look, Chargers, Jim Jim

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01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: Harbaugh's its own entity. Chargers are its own entity, I think. Obviously.

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Speaker 2: The other big thing is what happens in New England

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Speaker 2: the l Yeah, of course, yeah, reports today we don't know.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't appear as though Craft and Belichick have talked

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Speaker 2: about his future. But obviously something is coming to a

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01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 2: head here. So a lot of interesting moving parts, to

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Speaker 2: say the least, over the next four or five days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the Belichick thing is is

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Speaker 1: the it won't be the first domino that falls, because

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Speaker 1: we will see some jobs lost on Monday, and that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be sad for those families. There's been a couple

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01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: of really good articles this week about how difficult that is,

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01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: from around Thanksgiving on for coaches that are sort of

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01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: unsure of their futures, how difficult it is on their families,

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Speaker 1: how difficult it is on their children to be mocked

1441
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: at school by other kids. My dad says, your dad's

1442
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: getting fired, and things of that nature. Like we know

1443
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: how cruel kids can be, but it's kind of a

1444
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: human look at these guys because we sit here and

1445
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: we plan out their futures and we say, you don't

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01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: deserve this job. And I know you're in the public eye,

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01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: so some things are going to be done. But losing

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Speaker 1: a job, and especially if you're in a comfortable situation,

1449
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: you feel like, man, to give me one more year.

1450
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm really going to turn this around. Some people get

1451
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: that opportunity and some people don't, and you never know

1452
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: if that's your last chance, if you're going to get

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01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: another gig. Leslie Frazier famously said, you know I'll get

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01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: another opportunity. It's been ten years since he lost the

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01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: gig in Minnesota and he has not been a head

1456
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: coach again, so there's a lot to look at there.

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01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: But I mean, the most intriguing thing is is Belichick out?

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01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: Is he going to leave? If he is, I've already

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01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: seen like three teams who are monitoring it closely, and

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01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: a few other jobs that might not be open would

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01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,879
Speaker 1: become open if Belichick would be willing to take those gigs.

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Speaker 1: So there are several places he could land. And maybe

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01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: that's going to kind of that'll be the floodgate opening

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01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: if he goes, because there'll be several teams that are

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Speaker 1: looking for him. So I think that's I think the

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01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: Chargers job is the most interesting one to fill. I

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Speaker 1: think the Belichick story as well as what's going to

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Speaker 1: happen with Jim Harbaugh are the two most fascinating individuals

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01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: points to watch and see how they end up panning out.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, maybe we come back an hour three

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Speaker 2: and talk a little bit more about the carousel, because

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01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 2: there's so many interesting things coming up over these next

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Speaker 2: few days. By the way, fun fact tomorrow is Ron

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01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: rivera sixty second birthday. So let's hope though commanders at

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Speaker 2: least wait until Monday before they give him the pink slip.

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01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: As you said, not a very fun time for a

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Speaker 2: lot of these guys, and there are certainly a lot

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01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: of interesting dynamics at play here. Fox Sports Radio Ertors

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Tirek dot com studios,

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01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: will come back to Sager will give us the extended

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01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 2: update that he gives every Saturday night around this time.

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Speaker 4: This is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: TIREC dot Com studios, as we do every week around

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Speaker 2: this time. Do you want to toss it over the

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01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: news desk Steve Desager give us an extended update everything

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Speaker 2: that we missed.

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Speaker 6: We've got a lot of NFL to discuss for starters.

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01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 6: The Steelers have a chance at the postseason. Yes, they

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01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 6: won in the rain at Baltimore today, seventeen to ten

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01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 6: was the final. Do you know the Pittsburgh Steelers in

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01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 6: their seventeen games this year had thirteen touchdown passes total. Wow,

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Speaker 6: and they could be going to the playoff. I mean,

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01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 6: that's bottom five in the NFL. They were also outscored

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Speaker 6: this season overall, and they won ten games this year

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Speaker 6: and could be going to a.

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Speaker 1: Play Best quote of the year was Dan Graziano saying,

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Speaker 1: they literally do nothing well except win games. That's a

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Speaker 1: great call, tremendous comment.

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Speaker 6: Thirteen punts total in the rain today this game, seventeen

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Speaker 6: to ten in the final, and George Pickens of the

1502
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 6: Steelers no catches, no targets today. Meanwhile, Nico Collins targeted

1503
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 6: nine times. He had nine catches for one hundred and

1504
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 6: ninety five yards. Texans are going to the playoffs after

1505
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 6: the win at Indy twenty three to nineteen ap points out.

1506
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 6: It's been almost a decade since somebody had a game

1507
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,799
Speaker 6: like Collins tonight. That is, to have that many yards

1508
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 6: receiving when you catch every target during the game. DeAndre

1509
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 6: Hopkins for Houston twenty fourteen in a game against the Titans,

1510
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 6: was targeted nine times, had nine catches and over two

1511
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 6: hundred yards receiving in that contest. So yet again, this

1512
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 6: is part of Houston making the playoffs, is part of

1513
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 6: the greatness of the NFL as a pro sports product,

1514
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 6: as an entertainment product, because yet again, you get a

1515
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 6: team like the Texans who finished dead last in their

1516
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 6: division the year before, and then make the playoffs. The

1517
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 6: Browns have done the same, and in fact, nearly every

1518
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 6: season for almost thirty years now, somebody makes the playoffs

1519
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 6: after they finished last or tied for last the season before.

1520
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 6: The Texans have clinched a playoff berth tomorrow they could

1521
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 6: wind up AFC South champions. Jacksonville quarterback Trevor Lawrence with

1522
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,440
Speaker 6: the bad shoulder is called a game time decision for tomorrow.

1523
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 6: So was wide receiver Christian Kirk with a groin injury,

1524
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 6: but he did come off ir Today. Jacksonville clinch the

1525
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 6: AFC South with a win at Tennessee Sunday. Titans quarterback

1526
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 6: Will Levis is out. Ryan Tannehill will start. Whoever the

1527
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 6: AFC South winner is will be the number four seed,

1528
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 6: and we'll be hosting the Cleveland Browns next weekend in

1529
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 6: the playoffs. The way Houston can win the AFC South

1530
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 6: is a Jacksonville loss or a tie. But a tie

1531
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 6: is let's just say not likely. I'll go into detail

1532
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,440
Speaker 6: in a moment. The Colts, after the home loss, officially

1533
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 6: eliminated from any playoff consideration. They finished the season at

1534
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 6: nine and eight. Now, the NFL itself pointed out this

1535
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 6: week and I have saved this. Guys, are you aware

1536
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 6: that there has been overtime in the NFL for exactly

1537
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 6: fifty seasons?

1538
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 4: Before that they did not know about that.

1539
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 2: But that's a dated joke, probably still accurate though before

1540
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 2: that they used to just finish as a tie after

1541
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 2: four quarters no ot.

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01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 6: I know in Chargers history the first year of the merger,

1543
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 6: when they became an NFL team, they played three tie

1544
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 6: games in one season, and it was a shorter season

1545
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 6: back then.

1546
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 4: But this is the amazing.

1547
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 6: Stat straight from the league. In the fifty years there's

1548
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 6: been overtime, there has never been a tie after overtime

1549
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 6: in the last two weeks of a regular season. I

1550
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 6: appreciate all the scenarios that get last out win or tie,

1551
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 6: and you know, an if any information you got for me,

1552
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 6: that's great, I'll lead it up as a fan. The

1553
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 6: fact is not a single tie game in the NFL

1554
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 6: in the last two weeks of a regular season, and

1555
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 6: this whole season there hasn't been a single tie game.

1556
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 6: So yes, Houston could clinch the AFC South with a

1557
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 6: Jacksonville tie tomorrow, but if there's a Jaguars tie, that

1558
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 6: would be news. Let's just put it that way. The

1559
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 6: big news tonight postgame regards the Dolphins from NFL Network

1560
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 6: that running back Raheem Mostered and wide receiver jal And

1561
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,520
Speaker 6: Waddle are not expected to play Tomorrow night due to injuries.

1562
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 6: Miami host Buffalo Sunday night to end the regular season.

1563
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 6: The winner takes the AFC East title and the number

1564
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 6: two seed. Tampa Bay will win the NFC South with

1565
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 6: a win at Carolina on Sunday. That's one pm Eastern

1566
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 6: time on Fox TV. Bucks quarterback Baker Mayfield will play

1567
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 6: tomorrow despite injured ribs, but Carolina kicker Eddie Pinero doubtful

1568
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 6: with a bad hamstring. Falcons quarterback Taylor Heineke, with an

1569
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 6: ankle injury, is questionable. Atlanta's at New Orleans. Both of

1570
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 6: them need Tampa Bay to lose on Sunday, and finally,

1571
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 6: Green Bay has a chance at the postseason. We'll clinch

1572
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 6: a playoff spot with a win against the Bears tomorrow.

1573
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 6: Running back aj Dillon is out. Minnesota needs Green Bay

1574
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 6: to lose. Seattle needs Green Bay to lows.

1575
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Steve Disager.

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01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Tors

1577
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot com studios.

1578
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 2: When we come back, some very interesting sound from Shane's

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01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: stich in. Following Indianapolis's loss to the Houston Texans, we'll

1580
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: discuss the wild week eighteen NFL games, look ahead to Sunday,

1581
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: busy last hour, Fox Sports Rado.

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Speaker 4: Welcome Inn everybody, our three of Torres.

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Speaker 2: And Martin, Fox Sports Radio. We are broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: I want to get to this Cults Texans game here momentary.

1590
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want you to. You you referenced audio, you

1591
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,919
Speaker 1: tease audio from stiking. I actually don't know what you referenced.

1592
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: I haven't heard it yet. I'm looking forward to this.

1593
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 4: Well, you know we're gonna we're gonna get to all

1594
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 4: the great audio.

1595
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 2: But I do want to. I meant to mention this

1596
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 2: off the top, and I forgot to get to it.

1597
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 2: I want to get to a great tweet from earlier

1598
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: this week when Jason Martin told the world that you

1599
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 2: have a new family member coming into your family. Give

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01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 2: us some details, man, I'm gonna put it on the spot.

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01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 2: You just put it out there. I mean, I feel

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01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 2: like it's safe to ask if it was on social media.

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01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I obviously don't tweet. I think

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01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: that was my like fifth tweet of the year or

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01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: something like that. It's a good tweet. Yep. When we're

1606
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: my wife's pregnant, she's gonna give birth to our second child,

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01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: God willing in late March. It's kind of when we

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01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: are expecting him or her. We did not find out

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01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: for our daughter, Clara Grace, whether or not it was

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01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a boy or girl. We'd love that, and

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01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna let We're gonna let the Lord surprise us

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01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: that day again and we'll see if it's a matched

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01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: pair or if we're gonna get one of each. It's

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01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: cool being a girl dad. So if I end up

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01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: doing that twice, then that would be awesome. If I

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01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to raise up somebody else to love

1617
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: pro wrestling in video games, and I'll do that. So

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01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: it's cool, it really is. And we kind of kept

1619
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: it close to the US for a while as a

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01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: matter of fact, because we you know, we're three months

1621
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: away from this at this stage. But it was time

1622
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: we had put it in the Christmas card, so I

1623
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: felt like, yeah, let's go ahead and drop it once

1624
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: we got We did not get to face the first

1625
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: time we went for the ultrasound a handful of weeks ago,

1626
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: and so you know, we waited, and then that that

1627
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 1: morning that I sent that that comment on X was

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01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: the ultrasound that she had just sent me when she

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01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: was leaving the doctor and I was with my daughter

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01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: who was dealing with a virus that day. So I

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01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: was feeling extra blessed honestly, and just threw that out there. So, yeah,

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01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a fourth member of my family joining

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01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: us in late March, and that's going to be really

1634
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: really cool.

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01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 4: Wow.

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01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, congratulations, thank you. Second of all,

1637
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit hurt because you know, I don't

1638
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 2: get the syrup from bert Arnie Spaniard anymore. I'm not

1639
01:22:58,240 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 2: on the Christmas card list from Jason.

1640
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: I was actually going to send you a message and

1641
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: say what is your address, because I was actually planning

1642
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: I was actually considering sending you a guard.

1643
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I can get you my address off air.

1644
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 2: But in all seriousness, I saw the tweet earlier this week.

1645
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 2: I meant to text you. I forgot to text you.

1646
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 2: I meant to bring it up an hour one. I

1647
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 2: forgot to bring it up an hour one. But congratulations

1648
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: to you, your wife, your daughter, and I'll expect Arnie

1649
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 2: Spaniard at least for a couple Saturdays in March here as.

1650
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 4: Well.

1651
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: That was good.

1652
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 4: That was good. Yeah, we'll see you.

1653
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 2: Know, obviously you'll have some bigger commitments than Fox Sports

1654
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: Radio on the weekend.

1655
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 4: So congrats to you and your wife.

1656
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 1: So thank you.

1657
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 2: All right, so let's get back to the big, you know,

1658
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 2: football news of the night, and we'll set this up

1659
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 2: really quick because I do want to get to the sound.

1660
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:49,759
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. But long story short, Houston wins twenty

1661
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: three to nineteen over the Indianapolis Colts. Houston clinches a

1662
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: playoff berth with the win. Now the score is a

1663
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: little bit deceptive because Houston took a safety in the

1664
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 2: final ten seconds of the game basically to run out

1665
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 2: the clock. It was twenty three to seventeen. The big

1666
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 2: moment in this game came late in the game, about

1667
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 2: a minute togo. Indianapolis is in the red zone. Obviously,

1668
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: they need a touchdown to tie the game, and then

1669
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 2: the extra point would have won it. Shane stike In Well,

1670
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: Indianapolis lines up for fourth on fourth down again in

1671
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 2: the red zone, and Shane stike In decides to use

1672
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 2: a timeout. Okay, so that's important because they had all

1673
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: three timeouts. Had they saved that time out, they would

1674
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 2: have been able to get the ball back with a

1675
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: reasonable amount of time. Instead, he uses the timeout. The

1676
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 2: next play they do run a fourth down play. It

1677
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 2: is a pass to Tyler Goodson. It is incomplete hits

1678
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 2: off Tyler Goodson's hands, but it's kind of behind him.

1679
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: It's not really the receiver's fault. It wasn't a great

1680
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 2: show throw for Gardner Minshew. So ultimately this is all

1681
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 2: essentially a worst case scenario. You burn the timeout it's

1682
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,799
Speaker 2: worth though, you don't have Jonathan Taylor on the field

1683
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: for that crucial play, and on top of it, the

1684
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 2: play is no good and after burning the time out,

1685
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 2: you literally get the ball back with one second left.

1686
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: After Indianapolis or excuse me, Houston takes a safety. I

1687
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 2: bring it up because Shane Steichen was asked about all

1688
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 2: of this after the game. Here's what he had to say.

1689
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: Why did Taylor come out on that fourth one? But

1690
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: he carried ball seven times in a row? Was his ankle? Okay?

1691
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: What happened there? Yeah? He was all right.

1692
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 7: The play we had up, we had to look for

1693
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 7: it. It was man a man coverage, you know, and just

1694
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 7: it didn't work out. But you did run it with

1695
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 7: Tyler though, Why was that the choice? Obviously we called

1696
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 7: time out there. It was fourth and one. We saw

1697
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 7: the front they were in. We liked the look for

1698
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:45,959
Speaker 7: that play in that situation.

1699
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,560
Speaker 1: So he is that he had practiced that play that

1700
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: we were thinking.

1701
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 7: I felt good about goods and in that situation he's

1702
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 7: a passketcher for us out of the backfield and.

1703
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: That's where we went win. So was there a thought

1704
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: to not taking a time out on fourth down and

1705
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 1: potentially having thy timeouts to them?

1706
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1707
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 7: No, really wanted to see the look to get in

1708
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 7: the call that we thought would work in that fourth

1709
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 7: down situation. Like I said, saw the look that play,

1710
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 7: thought it was gonna be great got the look, didn't

1711
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 7: you know, didn't happen.

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01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,759
Speaker 2: That was Shane steike In after the game. I'll say this, Jason,

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Speaker 2: I know there's really nothing else he can say. I

1714
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 2: respect that he owned it though that he he he

1715
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: isn't going to the podium and saying we could have

1716
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: done something different, we should have done something different.

1717
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 4: He said he liked the look. He said, he liked

1718
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 4: the setup.

1719
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 2: He justified in his mind why Jonathan Taylor wasn't on

1720
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 2: the field. Again, not everything is going to go to plan.

1721
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 2: But I kind of respect that, you know, he owned

1722
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 2: that it didn't work out, but he also owned that

1723
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 2: based on the information that he had, they felt confident

1724
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 2: in what they were doing at that moment.

1725
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 1: Well, again, if the throw is where it needs to be,

1726
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: I mean, Goodson is wide open, so I mean the

1727
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: play doesn't work. He says, it doesn't work out. We

1728
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: like to look. Technically, he's right, he was right the

1729
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: look that they should like the look because it worked.

1730
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 1: And I do think it's interesting, you know, you ask, well,

1731
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:08,600
Speaker 1: why is Taylor not out there? Because I think the

1732
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 1: call originally would have been for Taylor. It's like, well,

1733
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: people were gonna follow Taylor nobody's gonna follow Goodson. Yep.

1734
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: But the one part that I kind of laugh at,

1735
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: chuckle at, is feel really good about Goods in that situation.

1736
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 1: He's a real pass catcher for us out of the backfield.

1737
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 3: Is he?

1738
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: Though? I mean, he has six catches on the season,

1739
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: He's got six grabs and thirteen rushes on the season.

1740
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would define him as a

1741
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:37,560
Speaker 1: pass catcher for my team if he's had six receptions

1742
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: on the year, and I know he's a rookie, and

1743
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: maybe I just think in that case, you put him

1744
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: out there because no one's gonna follow him. He's the

1745
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 1: one guy that you can pretty much guarantee is not

1746
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: gonna be the guy I'm surprised. The other thing that

1747
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: surprised me there is I'm watching on mute. Of course,

1748
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,919
Speaker 1: because it's happening as we're live on air. I assume

1749
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: that they're trying to draw them all sides, and that's

1750
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: not what he said. He said they were trying to

1751
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: get a look at, you know what, what the Texans

1752
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: were going to put up defensively, see whether or not

1753
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: they like to look, and then go elsewhere. Interestingly enough,

1754
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: that's similar to what Saban said, whether he liked the

1755
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: first one or he didn't like the first one, he

1756
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 1: liked the second one, the third one didn't really work

1757
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: out the way that they were hoping for, and they

1758
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 1: can become something like that. I agree with you, though,

1759
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he definitely owned it. I mean he owned

1760
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: the call. He didn't try to pass the buck on

1761
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: anybody else. At the same time, he explained why they

1762
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: were going to go with that look. And again, if

1763
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: you watch the replay, if you haven't seen it yet

1764
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: and you have the opportunity to go watch the replay,

1765
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: it's there, like the play is actually there. It's just

1766
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: it didn't work because Minshew threw it behind a guy

1767
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: who was just not adept enough to get back there

1768
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: to It's a play that a lot of guys are

1769
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: going to make. If somebody's not gonna make it, it's

1770
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: probably a rookie that has been used sparingly throughout the season.

1771
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: So it almost it was almost brilliant, and you know,

1772
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: hindsight's twenty twenty. It didn't work, so now we're gonna

1773
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 1: be uber critical of it. But he was standing there

1774
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: wide open. It just it just was incomplete.

1775
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, I think a lot of things

1776
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 2: are true. I respect him for owning it. I think

1777
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 2: it justifies a little bit more. Hey, we like the look.

1778
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 2: It didn't work out, blah.

1779
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah.

1780
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 2: I do wonder if at the very least, and listen,

1781
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 2: I get right, essentially your season is on the line.

1782
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 2: So if it isn't a perfect scenario, then yes, call

1783
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 2: the time out and whatever. But I also like, and listen,

1784
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 2: this is you know, it's it sucks right. Your entire

1785
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 2: season comes down to a series of events here, and

1786
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 2: I know that technically it doesn't come down to it,

1787
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 2: and if you want in this week whatever, The point

1788
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make is that it really does come

1789
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 2: down to a couple split second decisions, and those decisions

1790
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 2: are going to define this entire season success, failure, playoffs,

1791
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 2: no play whatever. But I do also think that in

1792
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 2: that moment, it wasn't his finest moment. And I think

1793
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 2: even more than not having Jonathan Taylor on the field,

1794
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 2: I just didn't like using the time out.

1795
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, no I hated that, like I would have

1796
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: called the play with two seconds left on the clock.

1797
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: But again I thought that they were trying to draw

1798
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 1: them all sides and they were trying to get the look.

1799
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 1: I just felt like that timeout was more valuable than

1800
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 1: a better look, because what if you come back out

1801
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: of the time out and the looks worse.

1802
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 4: Well, one hundred percent.

1803
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 2: And the other thing too, is if you don't get

1804
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: the look that you like, they're deep in their own territory,

1805
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 2: They're not gonna throw the football. You're gonna use your timeouts,

1806
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 2: but you're going to get the ball back probably in

1807
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 2: reasonable field position with a little, you know, a fair

1808
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 2: amount of time left on the clock. You waste the

1809
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 2: time out to get the better look. There's just like

1810
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 2: like if you don't use the timeout, it feels like

1811
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 2: like like there's more just good things that can happen.

1812
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,719
Speaker 2: If you don't use the timeout. You could convert play anyway,

1813
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 2: you get the ball back with more time. You know,

1814
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 2: obviously they're gonna have to run three plays deep in

1815
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: their own territory. Maybe something happens. You use the time out,

1816
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 2: then essentially you are down too. We have to convert

1817
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 2: this or our season is essentially over. So that's where

1818
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 2: I stand, is just that the idea of using the

1819
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: time out like you're still gonna get the ball back

1820
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 2: with a fair amount of time, probably with pretty good

1821
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 2: field position, you get one or two, you know, pretty

1822
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 2: quick pass plays. All of a sudden you're back in

1823
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 2: short range. I don't know, I'm just rambling, but the

1824
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make is I don't have as

1825
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 2: much problem with no Jonathan Taylor as I do. Using

1826
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: the time out in that situation basically leaves you no margin.

1827
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Fair completely agree, you know. I just think that you

1828
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: basically pushed all your chips in and went all in,

1829
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 1: but you could have actually held out for a couple

1830
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 1: more hands, and instead you went in on what you

1831
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 1: thought might be a good hand, but you didn't have

1832
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: the nuts and as a results, your head at home.

1833
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:01,600
Speaker 1: And I think that going all or nothing when you

1834
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: don't have to in that circumstance, If you make that

1835
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 1: same play call but you don't call that time out,

1836
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: who knows what the result of the game is. Now

1837
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 1: the Texas may have just gotten a first down, it

1838
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 1: would have been over, but at the very least we

1839
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 1: wouldn't be questioning that decision. I think that, I agree.

1840
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 1: I think the timeout is the part that's egregious. Everything

1841
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 1: else after that, even though you've got it in an

1842
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: inexperienced player's hand and maybe kind of a Rickety quarterback situation.

1843
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 1: The play call itself was actually good. The execution was poor,

1844
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 1: but you didn't give your guys any wiggle room in

1845
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 1: case that play went exactly like it did. You didn't

1846
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: have anything there, and then they were able to take

1847
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 1: the safety kick it off to you with that free kick,

1848
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:45,879
Speaker 1: and then that's the ballgame.

1849
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 4: That is the ballgame. Houston advances to the playoffs.

1850
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 2: We will see where they end up seeded if they

1851
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 2: If Jacksonville loses tomorrow, Houston as your AFC South champion,

1852
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 2: they would obviously host a playoff game next week. If

1853
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 2: Jacksonville wins and Buffalo wins, then Houston is the seventh seed.

1854
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 2: If Jacksonville wins and Houston or Jacksonville wins and Buffalo loses,

1855
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 2: then Houston would be the sixth seeds. So a lot

1856
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 2: of TV watching tomorrow for the Houston Texans, but they

1857
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 2: advanced the playoffs. By the way, it is worth noting

1858
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh with their win tonight, is still very much in

1859
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 2: the playoff picture. They need a few things to go

1860
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 2: their way tomorrow to be in But Pittsburgh does get

1861
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 2: the win. Any we don't have to spend ton time

1862
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 2: on this. Is there any parting thought on Pittsburgh? I

1863
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 2: mean I just think, listen, credit to them. Back was

1864
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 2: against the wall three straight wins to end the regular season,

1865
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 2: but TJ. Watts banged up quarterback situations a mass. Yes,

1866
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 2: it's cool. I'm happy for them. I mean as happy

1867
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 2: as I could be for a random team that I

1868
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 2: don't really care about, but like, good for them.

1869
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 4: They made it interesting. I have no strong opinions on them.

1870
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 2: I think they're a lamb going to slaughter if they

1871
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 2: end up in the playoffs.

1872
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 4: But we'll see what happens with them tomorrow.

1873
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if there's one team that I really

1874
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 1: don't have much interest in seeing in the postseason, it

1875
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,839
Speaker 1: is Pittsburgh. Of the teams that still have a shot,

1876
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: Like I would rather see Jacksonville. I'd rather see Buffalo.

1877
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 1: You know, the other we already know we're getting Houston,

1878
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 1: we're getting Miami. The other spot's are already set. I mean,

1879
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: you've got five that are already clinched. So there's two

1880
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 1: spots that are up. Give me, give me Buffalo and

1881
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: Jacksonville over any combination with Pittsburgh. There's just not that

1882
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 1: much interesting there that offense. It's just not something I'm

1883
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,520
Speaker 1: interested in seeing this postseason. I want to see it retooled,

1884
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: and I want to see what it looks like next year.

1885
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of done with the Steelers for now,

1886
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 1: and losing TJ. Watt, I think just makes it even

1887
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 1: less interesting.

1888
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 4: Don't disagree.

1889
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 2: We will see what happens with the Steelers tomorrow. Pittsburgh

1890
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 2: needs either Buffalo or Jacksonville to lose. If both win,

1891
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is out of the playoff picture. Fox Sports Radio

1892
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 2: eritors Jason Martin. When we come back, we'll go ahead

1893
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:10,600
Speaker 2: and talk about that playoff picture. Some intriguing games on Sunday,

1894
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 2: including that Sunday night game Miami and Buffalo.

1895
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 4: Will discuss it all next. Fox Sports Radio.

1896
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday,

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01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,320
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01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 2: All right, Jason, interesting weekend. You know, there's not like

1909
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,680
Speaker 2: a ton of huge games. You know, we got some

1910
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 2: people resting, some people, but there's also a few games

1911
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 2: with actual, real tangible meaning. So I'll tell you what

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01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 2: lorrain to give us a little music and producer Shay,

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01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 2: what is our first game?

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01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 8: So we got Bills versus Dolphins. They're gonna be starting

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01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 8: a five to twenty pm Pacific Standard time tomorrow. The

1916
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 8: Bills are coming into the game minus three. That's because

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01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 8: the Dolphins are gonna be without Jalen Waddle and Raheem

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01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 8: Moster and probably a couple other things. And the over

1919
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 8: under set at forty eight and a half.

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01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 4: I will start here, what Shay.

1921
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 2: Also, remember late in the game, Mike McDaniel had Bradley

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01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 2: Chubb in Torowkay, Hey, Uless, he's pulling a Willis Reed

1923
01:36:55,720 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 2: in a full body cast. Basically, listen, man, the Dolphins

1924
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 2: have been such a great story. I love everything that

1925
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 2: they're about. And the Bills. You know, did we get

1926
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 2: too high on, you know, on the story over the

1927
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks.

1928
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1929
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 2: Obviously, they didn't look great last week against the Patriots.

1930
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,679
Speaker 2: The week before they barely survived the Chargers of game

1931
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 2: that was on air when we came on to Saturdays ago.

1932
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,599
Speaker 2: But it just feels like two ships passing in the night.

1933
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 2: You feel bad, especially the Bradley Chubb thing. It happened

1934
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 2: at the point in the game where frankly, Bradley Chubb

1935
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:35,759
Speaker 2: should have been out of the game. But everything's trending

1936
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 2: in the wrong direction for the Dolphins. I know they're

1937
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 2: at home, but give me Buffalo.

1938
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm with you. I think Chubby, I think Chubb

1939
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 1: makes a difference. I think that Waddle makes a difference.

1940
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 1: I think most makes a difference. Tyreek Hill had kind

1941
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:52,799
Speaker 1: of a tumultuous weak with the house fire and everything

1942
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 1: happening down there as well. This just and the Bills

1943
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 1: are a team that right now I just like and

1944
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 1: I understand that they can be a little ink it's

1945
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 1: but I do feel like they're still peaking kind of

1946
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 1: at the right time. This just feels like one where

1947
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna kind of come back from a

1948
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 1: very mediocre especially middle of the season to take this

1949
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 1: division in this game, with the Dolphins already in the

1950
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 1: playoffs as well. On top of that, I just I

1951
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 1: feel like Buffalo gets it done.

1952
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 2: Also, I will say, for all of the ink spilled

1953
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,679
Speaker 2: about Sean McDermott and everything that happened, it'd be pretty

1954
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 2: wild if Buffalo ended up with the two seed, and

1955
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 2: if they win, they will be the two seed. Case

1956
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 2: Baltimore is locked into the one their regular season is over,

1957
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 2: Casey is locked into the three, it'd be wild if

1958
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 2: Buffalo ended.

1959
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 4: Up as a two seed.

1960
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 2: If Miami ends up in that wildcard round, even if

1961
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 2: they don't, you think they're one and done.

1962
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,720
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's just it's just too it.

1963
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 1: I just I don't believe in them, like they can

1964
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 1: be as good as anybody in the league, and really

1965
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 1: their defense really stepped it up, but losing Chubb is

1966
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: really gonna hurt them. I just from week to week,

1967
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure exactly how effective they're gonna be.

1968
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 1: They're just they're a real enigma of a team. When

1969
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: they're at their best. They are incredibly dangerous, but they

1970
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 1: also have a tendency to just kind of lay an egg.

1971
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: So I don't know that I believe in them at all.

1972
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 1: I feel like they're kind of a great story that

1973
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,839
Speaker 1: are not going to perform particularly strongly in the playoffs.

1974
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 4: Producer Shay, what's the next game?

1975
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 8: So we got the Cowboys versus the Commanders. The Cowboys

1976
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:34,600
Speaker 8: are trying to get the number two seed. Jason, what

1977
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 8: do you think.

1978
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 1: I think they'll get it. The Commanders. I mean, Rivera

1979
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 1: is probably going to be let go on Monday, it

1980
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 1: is his birthday, and it is a division game, and

1981
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 1: so you it'll probably be more annoying for the Cowboys

1982
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: than they would maybe want. But I think I read

1983
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 1: an article where Jerry Jones has kind of had a

1984
01:39:56,840 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 1: conversation with Mike McCarthy. He's like, you guys can blow

1985
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,600
Speaker 1: this two seed the way the Patriots blew it in

1986
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and like they had an opportunity to get

1987
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: the two they lost in the last game of the

1988
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 1: regular season, ended up then hosting a wild card game

1989
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: that led to Tennessee going to Foxborough beating them, and

1990
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: then Brady leaving that being his last game as a Patriot,

1991
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: so I think it was. Diana Rassini reported if they

1992
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 1: were to lose, McCarthy's job security might not be as

1993
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 1: strong as we think, and that's not really been discussed

1994
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 1: at all. But this is a big time game, and

1995
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: I think Jerry is basically like, hey, this two seed,

1996
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 1: we need to hold on to it. So I think

1997
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 1: they will.

1998
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of things.

1999
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,839
Speaker 2: One, I don't believe that Jerry would fire Mike McCarthy

2000
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 2: and I Alan either.

2001
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. I always say that.

2002
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 2: Like I remember if you remember, like when Jason Garrett

2003
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 2: got fired. Do you remember that, Jason, Because the only

2004
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 2: reason I ask is because it was during you know,

2005
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 2: this time of year. Regular season ended a week earlier

2006
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 2: at that point, and I remember Arnie and I were

2007
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 2: filling in like four straight nights and it was like

2008
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 2: everybody knew that Mike that Jerry Jones had to do it,

2009
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 2: and he just like wouldn't pull the plug, and he's like, well,

2010
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, maybe we keep them. And

2011
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 2: then it was like, maybe we keep them in like

2012
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 2: a non coaching role. And I know that Jason Garrett

2013
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 2: had been with the organization forever as a player and

2014
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 2: everything but Jerry just you know, he's gotten soft at

2015
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 2: his old age. You know, a week ago we had

2016
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 2: the Ring of Honor with Jimmy Johnson. But it just

2017
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 2: feels like just not moves that he wants to make.

2018
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 2: I think that he likes kind of having a coach

2019
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 2: that will kind of acquiesce to him.

2020
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 4: Let Jerry be the star all of that.

2021
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 2: And so if you're gonna fire Mike McCarthy, you better

2022
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 2: go get either Bill Belichick or Jim Harbaugh. And I

2023
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 2: don't think either of those guys is gonna be excited

2024
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 2: with their coach to impress or their ow owner doing

2025
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 2: press conferences and everything after games and stuff. So I'm

2026
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 2: with you. Do think they probably get the victory clinch

2027
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 2: that two seed. If there was justice in the world,

2028
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 2: both Allison Philly would lose tomorrow and Detroit would winning

2029
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 2: get that two seed. But I don't think it's gonna happen.

2030
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason will come back. We will look

2031
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:13,679
Speaker 2: at some of the other remaining important games from Week

2032
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 2: eighteen in the NFL before we do the final time

2033
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 2: this evening. Let's toss it over the news desk, the

2034
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 2: SEGA what.

2035
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 6: Is trende before we get to the wins from Houston

2036
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:25,839
Speaker 6: and Pittsburgh today. Guys, a great NFL trivia question. Everybody

2037
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 6: can pass this along is and it's still true. Who

2038
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 6: are the four teams currently in the NFL who have

2039
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 6: never played in a Super Bowl? You just mentioned one

2040
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 6: of them, the Detroit Lions, Cleveland Browns have never played

2041
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 6: in a Super Bowl? And two more recent teams Houston Texans,

2042
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 6: Houston Texansville and the Jacksonville Jaguars. It is possible that

2043
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 6: all four of those teams are in the playoffs this year.

2044
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 6: Texans qualified tonight, Jaguars can get there with a win tomorrow.

2045
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:58,759
Speaker 6: Lions and Browns had already clinched a playoff spot before

2046
01:42:58,800 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 6: this weekend.

2047
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,639
Speaker 2: Brown's won championships but in the pre Super Bowl era, correct, because.

2048
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 4: Like what, Jay dominated the fifties.

2049
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, but we've only had what this will be

2050
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 6: Super Bowl fifty eight.

2051
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 4: Well, I ask Garney Spaniard.

2052
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was there about the Roaring fifties for the

2053
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:13,759
Speaker 2: Cleveland Auto Graham.

2054
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 6: He probably had an Auto Graham poster on his wall. Sure,

2055
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 6: Houston goes to the postseason after the win at Indianapolis

2056
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,759
Speaker 6: Tonight twenty three to nineteen c j Stroud two touchdown

2057
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 6: passes in the first half. Texans led fourteen to three

2058
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 6: at the time. In the fourth quarter, Stroud leading a

2059
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:32,480
Speaker 6: great drive about seven minutes plus touchdown drive and eventually

2060
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 6: holding on at the end for the win. Indian red

2061
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 6: zone touchdowns was zero for three Colts with about one

2062
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 6: minute left through incomplete on fourth and one, and as

2063
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 6: we mentioned right after the game key to the second half,

2064
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 6: Indy missed a fifty seven yard field goal attempt in

2065
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,799
Speaker 6: the third quarter. It had the distance hit the upright

2066
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 6: that could have given the Colts the lead. Colts on

2067
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 6: third down conversions went one for eleven, by the way,

2068
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor battled an ankle injury second half, still had

2069
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 6: thirty carries in the game, one hundred eighty eight yards

2070
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 6: in a score, but the Colts at nine to eight,

2071
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 6: are eliminated. Missing for Houston tonight two injured wide receivers

2072
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 6: and still Nico Collins had nine catches one hundred and

2073
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 6: ninety five yards, including a seventy five yard touchdown reception

2074
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,759
Speaker 6: on their first offensive play this evening. Jacksonville can clinch

2075
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 6: the AFC South with a win at Tennessee on Sunday.

2076
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 6: Whoever takes the AFC South, will be the number four

2077
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 6: seed and host the Cleveland Browns next weekend. In the playoffs.

2078
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh could get that last playoff spot in the AFC.

2079
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 6: They did their part with a win today seventeen to

2080
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:36,719
Speaker 6: ten in the rain at Baltimore. Now they need either

2081
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 6: a Jacksonville loss tomorrow or a Buffalo lost Sunday night. Yes,

2082
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:44,839
Speaker 6: Miami is hosting Buffalo Sunday Night to end the regular season,

2083
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 6: but NFL Network says don't expect to see running back

2084
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 6: Raheem Moster or wide receiver Jalen Waddle in that game

2085
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 6: for the Dolphins due to knee and ankle injuries. Both

2086
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 6: had returned to limited practice on Friday. Miami has already

2087
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 6: clinched a playoffs. Tampa Bay will take the NFC South

2088
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 6: with a win at Carolina on Sunday. That's one pm

2089
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 6: Eastern time on Fox TV. Green Bay will clinch a

2090
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 6: playoff spot with a win against the Bears. The Chicago

2091
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 6: Bears by the way Wheel draft number one overall in April.

2092
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 6: They own the Carolina's choice, but there are three teams,

2093
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,839
Speaker 6: including Washington, that have a chance at the number two selection.

2094
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 6: Three teams that are each four and twelve for the moment.

2095
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 6: Eagles wide receiver DeVante Smith is out with an ankle

2096
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 6: injury as Philadelphia plays at the Giants tomorrow. Temperature in

2097
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 6: the thirties, snow in the morning but not during the

2098
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 6: game is the forecast. Whoever finishes second place in the

2099
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 6: NFC East will be the number five seed. Dallas will

2100
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 6: clinch the division title with a win Sunday at Washington

2101
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 6: on Fox TV, or with a Philadelphia loss. San Francisco's

2102
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 6: the one seed in the NFC. They're hosting the Rams.

2103
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 6: Each team has already made the playoffs. Starters will be

2104
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 6: sitting left, at and right in that game. Patriots tight

2105
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 6: end Hunter Henry was placed on IR today. Jets at

2106
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 6: New England tomorrow, Snow and high winds are expected. Temperature

2107
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 6: in the thirties and one other injury note.

2108
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:02,639
Speaker 1: TJ.

2109
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 6: Watt was hurt in the Pittsburgh win today. The linebacker,

2110
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 6: who had two more sacks nineteen for the season, was

2111
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 6: hit by a teammate and suffered a sprain to mcl.

2112
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:14,400
Speaker 6: NFL network calls it a Grade three spray. More serious,

2113
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:18,759
Speaker 6: more tests coming tomorrow. LSU wide receiver Malik Neighbors declared

2114
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 6: for the NFL Draft. Quarterback Malachi Nelson is transferring from

2115
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 6: USC to Boise State. The NBA reinstated Warriors forward Draymond

2116
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 6: Green today after missing twelve games due to suspension. Road

2117
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 6: wins for Boston, New York and Utah, which won at

2118
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 6: Philadelphia Joel andb did not play due to a knee injury,

2119
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 6: and Houston at home Edge Milwaukee won twelve one eight

2120
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:45,000
Speaker 6: Giannis Antennacumpo forty eight points, seventeen rebounds. Speaking of the

2121
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 6: city of Houston, mister college basketball, there is one undefeated

2122
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 6: team left in.

2123
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 2: College Let's see, jmart there were three undefeated teams coming

2124
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 2: into today. Can you name the other two besides Houston.

2125
01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to cut you off the Sega then, no,

2126
01:46:59,600 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 2: that's good.

2127
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 1: M see every every like really good team.

2128
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 4: If you get this.

2129
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 6: One was ranked nineteenth. One was ranked twenty second this

2130
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 6: week despite being undefeated. If you ole miss one of them, yes, oh,

2131
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 6: miss Todd It baby got killed at Tennessee today and

2132
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 6: they like twenty five or something from ninety to sixty four.

2133
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 6: Final James Madison was fourteen and oh that the duke

2134
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 6: would have gotten me. I think yeah, lost by ten

2135
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 6: at Southern miss So Houston, which killed West Virginia. Houston

2136
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 6: ranked third in the country is fourteen and oh NCA

2137
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 6: points out that in the last fifteen years only twice

2138
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Speaker 6: has the last of the undefeateds wound up being the

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Speaker 6: national champion that year. Wow, Virginia twenty nineteen Villanova twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Would not have gotten that if you if you had

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Speaker 4: left it up to me.

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Speaker 1: Can the basketball team play in a bowl game for

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01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:50,959
Speaker 1: James Madison?

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Speaker 4: I think they'll make the postse will they?

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Speaker 6: Did you see the odd odd story that the Washington

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01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:01,799
Speaker 6: Huskies backup quarterback who's there could play Monday night committed

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Speaker 6: to James already committed to transfer to James Madison.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know I'm okay with that though, like this

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01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 2: whole thing of like and by the way, next year

2150
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 2: is gonna be chaos because there's gonna be twelve teams

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01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 2: in the playoff instead of four. But like this whole

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01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 2: thing about like, well, I have to leave and I

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01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 2: have to commit. Like as an example, Texas's backup quarterback

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01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 2: Malik Murphy decided to enter the portal and it was like, well,

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01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 2: the system left him with no choice but to leave

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01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 2: Texas in the middle of a playoff run. It's like, no, Nope,

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01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,640
Speaker 2: he could have gone into the portal and Ben recruited

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01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 2: and still practice with the team and Ben there, you know,

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Speaker 2: breaking case.

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Speaker 4: Of emergency with Washington.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean.

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01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it is what it is. But uh tell

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01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 4: you what.

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01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 2: Next year is gonna be interesting with the twelve team playoff,

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Speaker 2: and there really isn't like people blame the NCAA for this,

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01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 2: but there really isn't much they can do about that

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01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:59,799
Speaker 2: portal window because kids want to be able to commit

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01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 2: an roll for the spring. So you can't say, well,

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01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:04,719
Speaker 2: we just have to wait until after which usually starts

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Speaker 2: as a January semester for those on semester. Yes, so

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01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 2: the semester is starting pretty much everywhere in college football,

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01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:12,720
Speaker 2: so you can't just h and.

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Speaker 6: The season is going to be longer with a twelve

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01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 6: team playoff, of course, you have more rounds than we

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Speaker 6: currently have. But Washington's gonna be playing Michigan for the

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Speaker 6: title on Monday Night. Keep in mind next season Washington

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Speaker 6: will be in the Big Ten Conference. The Huskies will

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Speaker 6: host Michigan in October after Michigan hosts Texas and USC

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Speaker 6: on its September schedule.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much to Seger, Fox Sports Radio, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, Aeron Tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios. Shay, we got one more game

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Speaker 2: that I do want to get to and then we'll

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Speaker 2: go ahead and wrap the show. Laurii, give us a

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Speaker 2: little music and Shaye, what is the game that we

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Speaker 2: should wrap with?

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Speaker 1: Here?

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Speaker 8: We got the Green Bay Packers versus the Bears. It's

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Speaker 8: going to be tomorrow at one twenty five pm Pacific

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Speaker 8: Standard time. The Packers are one win away from clinching

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Speaker 8: a playoff spot in Jordan Love's first year as a starter.

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Speaker 8: Something that Aaron Rodgers or or far little before your

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01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 8: time their shit a little bit, a little bit, mister

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Speaker 8: gen Z. But yeah, they both haven't done it.

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Speaker 2: What do you think to you? I mean, listen, I

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Speaker 2: I'm not so. I'm not so the Packers is gonna

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Speaker 2: win this game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not either. The year's why one. The Bears already

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Speaker 1: have the one, see because they got it from Carolina.

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01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 1: Yes they don't. It doesn't matter where they win or lose.

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Speaker 1: They're not playing for positioning here. Uh, you got eber

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01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 1: Flus who it looks like he's gonna keep his job,

2203
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 1: but he would love to end it on a division win,

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01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 1: especially on the road. I think they've got something to

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01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 1: play for just because they want to beat Green Bay.

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01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 1: And then there's this. Green Bay's defense is terrible, sure,

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01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:58,639
Speaker 1: like they're real bad. Their secondary is bad, So this

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01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: could be the kind of game, could be a real nuisance,

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Speaker 1: and the Bears have quietly been all right, like they're

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01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 1: not that bad and they can be pretty dangerous. I

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01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:09,599
Speaker 1: think they could be good in the future. Quite frankly,

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01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 1: this would actually, you know, get them to an eight

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01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:15,719
Speaker 1: to nine season, which I think is a pretty pretty

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01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 1: close to a success based on where they were last year.

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Speaker 2: Really quick, do you think they should draft Kleb Williams?

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01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 2: You think they should trade the pick and build around

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: I would draft Caleb Williams. I like Justin Fields, but

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Speaker 1: I think he also has value right now sure to

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01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 1: somebody else. I would rather reset the clock on a

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01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 1: rookie contract as opposed to next year a year from

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Speaker 1: now having to potentially pay Justin Fields and actually not

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01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 1: potentially almost surely having to because you wouldn't have the

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01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 1: opportunity to get the quarterback of the future the same

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Speaker 1: way you do.

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Speaker 4: Now I agree and listen.

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Speaker 2: As much as I've enjoyed this push by Chicago, let's

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01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 2: call a spade its bade last week twenty of thirty two,

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01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 2: passing that six two per week before a win over

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01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 2: Atlanta fifteen of twenty seven, fifty five percent, nineteen of

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01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 2: thirty three against Detroit in that win.

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Speaker 4: So you know, we can sit here. And certainly he.

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01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 2: Justin Fields has been improved post injury, but I mean

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01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 2: he's not completing seventy two percent of his passes here.

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Speaker 4: So I think you take Caleb Williams.

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01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 2: You're still gonna have a pretty high pick, and like

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01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:29,600
Speaker 2: you said, you could get something another pick, probably for

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01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 2: Justin Fields. There's going to be teams in need of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason, we'll come back. We'll wrap the

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Speaker 2: show a lot to get to still Ertorris, Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: Here on a busy now Sunday morning in most of

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01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:42,799
Speaker 2: the country.

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Speaker 4: This is Fox Sports Radio.

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01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:50,679
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Live, Ertoris

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01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from thee Tireck dot Com studios.

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01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 2: Quick reminder, Bernie Fratdo of the Bernie Frado Show will

2247
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 2: follow us at the top of the hour. Make sure

2248
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 2: to stay tune for Bernie, who's always got great insight

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01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 2: on the world of sports. Also make sure to download

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Speaker 2: the podcast after the show be available shortly thereafter. Jason,

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Speaker 2: really quick, I want to get to some picks and predictions,

2252
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 2: but want to do it in a little bit of

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01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 2: a different way. But we'll start with the obvious. I mean,

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01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,720
Speaker 2: we got to start with the big one. Monday Night

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Speaker 2: in Houston, Michigan against Washington. Michigan is a four and

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Speaker 2: a half point favorite.

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Speaker 4: What do you think? How do you think it goes

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01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:30,919
Speaker 4: down Monday Night in Houston.

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01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 1: I've waivered on it and I just kind of I

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01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 1: don't know it. There's it really is going to depend

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01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 1: on who dictates it, and we talked about that earlier.

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01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 1: If Michigan's able to keep Pennis on the sidelines run

2263
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 1: it effectively own the line of scrimmage on both sides

2264
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 1: of the ball, they're going to win the game. If

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01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 1: it gets into a track meet, If Washington is able

2266
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 1: to stay out there and go high flying aerial attack

2267
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 1: like we've seen them successfully do so many times. One

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01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 1: stat that I did think was interesting. In their last

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01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 1: ten games, Washington has not won a game by more

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Speaker 1: than ten points. So they've been playing really close games

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01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:19,679
Speaker 1: all year and winning them and finding ways in close matchups,

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01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 1: so they've they've certainly found themselves battle tested going into this.

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01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go with my gut. I think Washington's

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01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:31,679
Speaker 1: gonna win. And the reason I just something about Penix.

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01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 1: There's sometimes you just look at a player and you

2276
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 1: just feel like that guy's not going to be denied,

2277
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 1: and there's just a certain there's a certain quality, there's

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01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 1: a certain glow to watching Michael Pennix Junior right now

2279
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 1: that tells me he's a guy that's going to find

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Speaker 1: a way to win this game for his team. I

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01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 1: think Michigan is the better overall team, but I don't

2282
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 1: think it's gonna matter in this case because I think

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01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 1: Pennis can take Washington to way level that Michigan won't

2284
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 1: be prepared for. And the biggest thing again is Michigan's defense,

2285
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 1: as good as they have proven themselves to be, hasn't

2286
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 1: seen anybody that can pass the way this kid can.

2287
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is absolutely incredible, and he's got

2288
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 1: weapons everywhere, and they're healthy and I look at that.

2289
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 1: I look at those three receivers, including Jay when Polka

2290
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 1: we spoke to on Monday when we were throwing in

2291
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 1: right after the Sugar Bowl. I just I think Washington's

2292
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 1: going to be too much, and I think as the

2293
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 1: Pac twelve closes, they're going to have a champion.

2294
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 2: By the way, Arizona basketball would be pretty much the

2295
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 2: favorite to winning the NCAA Tournament as well right now,

2296
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 2: So I'd be quite a one two punch if the

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01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 2: Pac twelve had a football and basketball champion. Listen, I

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01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 2: will take Michigan. Part of it is, I'll admit I

2299
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 2: did pick them in the preseason. I picked them to

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01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 2: beat Alabama. Feels like weird to bail on them now.

2301
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 2: A couple thoughts as to why, though, I'm not just

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01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 2: picking him because I picked them in the preseason.

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01:55:58,040 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 4: You know.

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01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 2: One, Listen, and I do think like all year long,

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01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 2: we've kind of tried to make this argument, Oh, you know,

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01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 2: there's not really any great teams and nothing separates anybody

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01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 2: from everybody else. I just wonder if Michigan's been like

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01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 2: pretty much the best team all year and we just

2309
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 2: got a little distracted. I mean, they were literally destroying

2310
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 2: everyone and then this kind of Stallion's thing happens and

2311
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 2: we think it's a big deal. And then they struggled

2312
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 2: down the stretch. But did they struggle down the stretch

2313
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 2: because they weren't that good or because they were playing

2314
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 2: really good teams without their head coach? Like not having

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01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 2: your head coach for the three biggest games of the

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01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 2: year and finding a way to win them. Should it

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01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 2: be underappreciated. They beat Alabama obviously with Jim Harbaugh, but

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01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 2: you have that element of it. And then I also, like, listen,

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01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 2: Team of Destiny seems a little like cliche, and frankly,

2320
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 2: I think it probably would upset a lot of people

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01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 2: considering their season. But you just look at some of

2322
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 2: the stuff that has happened this year. You know, we

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01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 2: have the Rose Bull on in studio right now. They're

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01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 2: playing the replaying it on ESPNU, and it's like, you know,

2325
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 2: the off balance pass that JJ McCarthy made that, you

2326
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 2: know whatever, they needed, the fourth down conversion to set

2327
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:12,720
Speaker 2: up what was the game time field goal?

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01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 4: You know, just it just feels.

2329
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,760
Speaker 2: Like everything is going right for them, and so I

2330
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 2: am going to take Michigan win up whatever. Twenty seven

2331
01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 2: twenty one something like that. I do like them to

2332
01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 2: win really quickly, Jason, but I want to get to

2333
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,120
Speaker 2: some NFL stuff before we get out of here. Kirkirbstreet

2334
01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:31,880
Speaker 2: made the argument, I bring it up because the Rose

2335
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 2: Bull is on that the National Championship Game should.

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01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 4: Permanently be at the Rose Bowl. Do you have any.

2337
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 2: Strong opinions on that? On that take that Kirkirbstree put.

2338
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 1: Out, Now, what was the take again, that when.

2339
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 4: We go to a twelve team playoff, the Rose Bowl

2340
01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 4: should be.

2341
01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 1: The permani of the championship. I saw him say that,

2342
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't really have a strong take one way or

2343
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 1: the other. I mean, the Rose Bowl does feel like

2344
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 1: it just feels like the most special environment. There is

2345
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:02,760
Speaker 1: something about like the way the crowd sits and the

2346
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:06,120
Speaker 1: way the building is set up, and it's a beautiful

2347
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:10,080
Speaker 1: place to play. It's almost always perfect, whether it looks

2348
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:12,520
Speaker 1: the part, all of that kind of thing. I could

2349
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 1: see it. I also think rotating around gets different people

2350
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 1: in different parts of the country potentially an opportunity. I

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Speaker 1: think if the Super Bowl is not headquartered in one place,

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Speaker 1: then why should the championship game. As much as I

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Speaker 1: agree that of all of them. The Rose Bowl that

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Speaker 1: is by far the most iconic site.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that I necessarily have a real

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Speaker 4: strong opinion on it either.

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Speaker 1: It'd be like does a British Open always need to

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Speaker 1: be played at Saint Andrew's.

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Speaker 2: Well, the other thing, too is to get the effect,

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Speaker 2: you would have to play the game at two in

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Speaker 2: the afternoon Pacific fight so that you get the sunset.

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Speaker 2: So that's the part nobody discusses real quick. This time

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Speaker 2: next week, is Bill Belichick the head coach of the

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots. No, I don't think so either. I

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Speaker 2: think it's miable. I do think he's gone. This time

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Speaker 2: next week. Is Jim Harball the head coach of the

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Speaker 2: Michigan Wolverines.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I agree.

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Speaker 2: Don't think it means that he is there permanently, just

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Speaker 2: that he has not accepted anything else at that point.

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Speaker 2: And I guess the rest we'll see. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't think we think Ron Rivera is going to be

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Speaker 2: the head coach. You mentioned that Antonio Pierce technically might

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Speaker 2: be for a while as they go through the interview process.

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Speaker 4: So we will see. Tell you what, Jason, we got

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Speaker 4: to get out of here.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank the crew, Lorrain on the board,

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Speaker 2: producer Shane so much better than that guy, Pat, Just kidding,

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Speaker 2: love you, Pat, Hope Pat's back soon. And of course

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Speaker 2: for Steve Disager on the updates, I'm araturus. For Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: make sure to download the podcast available wherever you get podcasts.

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