Speaker 1: Yeah, my all my family, well, my mom is from Nigata,
Speaker 1: my but my family is off in Tokyo.
Speaker 2: Excellent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I go there a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going back in the spring, is it my dog?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, cool, I'm going in March. Excellent at the
Speaker 3: beginning of April. Yeah, for the first time. So I
Speaker 3: got Wow.
Speaker 2: You're in for a big surprise and a treat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, good surprise. Oh yeah, you surprise, big surprise.
Speaker 1: Will fuck you up? Jack?
Speaker 4: Yeah right, gonna be this ship out you. You didn't
Speaker 4: hear about Tokyo. Everyone does martial arts away from Copaicho. Bro,
Speaker 4: They're gonna get you too. Don't don't funk around.
Speaker 1: Ship all the way up.
Speaker 2: I had no idea we'd have this conversation.
Speaker 1: Don't go to not Yokocho, don't go don't go to
Speaker 1: No Yoko Chose. They're going no fuck you up. Wow.
Speaker 5: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three seventy four,
Speaker 5: Episode five of Dai Guys Say production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep.
Speaker 3: Dive into america shared consciousness.
Speaker 5: And it is Friday February seventh, twenty twenty five, two
Speaker 5: seven two five.
Speaker 1: We got a big one, all right, Ocational Betticini Alfreedo,
Speaker 1: betted Genie Alfredo table Day, shout out Valence elect Fronds,
Speaker 1: National wear Red Day unless you know you're down with
Speaker 1: that other set and maybe not, but also National Send
Speaker 1: a Card to a Friend Day and National Bubblegum Day,
Speaker 1: so look, we got a lot of bubble gum. Lla
Speaker 1: com fetticini red Cardaccini.
Speaker 3: Alfredo is my favorite food for like age five to seven,
Speaker 3: like when I the age said my family was into
Speaker 3: olive garden.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my good god, my god. Whoa.
Speaker 1: I think it's because there's some it's it was like
Speaker 1: the grilled cheese of pastas, yes or something, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I guess there's macon cheese. But
Speaker 1: if you had to go to an Italian restaurant, you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I get tomato sauce everywhere, I
Speaker 1: don't like that. But this whole thing that's just cream each.
Speaker 3: Noodle like deeply coated, like it like three levels deep
Speaker 3: coated with like just cheese and cream. And oh my god,
Speaker 3: this became way My face was shiny after I ate it.
Speaker 1: You know, apparently this was made because a restaurant tour
Speaker 1: was worried that his pregnant wife wasn't eating like enough,
Speaker 1: or like there were things she didn't like, so he
Speaker 1: was like, what about this ungodly concoction? And then fettuccini
Speaker 1: Alfredo was born. It is a is a beautiful.
Speaker 3: Concoction made for a beautiful reason.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the periodic table.
Speaker 3: I will never know you, but uh nope, God.
Speaker 1: Blessed all the people who did. I said, shout out
Speaker 1: Valens Electrons, very very sarcastically, because that's the thing I
Speaker 1: fucking hated about.
Speaker 3: Because fuck Valence Electron.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care how many y'all could bond with
Speaker 1: some other fucking molecules.
Speaker 5: A man, my name is Jack O'Brien AKA, it's tricky
Speaker 5: to talk, go round to talk, go round to talk,
Speaker 5: go around.
Speaker 1: UFC support for Hitler.
Speaker 3: That is courtesy of hannahy Emmick view. Uh Andrew T
Speaker 3: bringing up how you know he spent some time loving
Speaker 3: the combat sports at UFC, but at a certain point
Speaker 3: was like, oh, they're all Nazis, so many of them.
Speaker 3: The core like ideals behind that field, but the league
Speaker 3: is kind of hitler ish. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be
Speaker 3: joined as always by my co host, mister Miles.
Speaker 1: Grassles Hey, the Lord of Lancersham the Viceroy Ventura Boulevard,
Speaker 1: famously known as the show Gun with No Gun. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for having me back. Jack was real
Speaker 1: touch and go there here. Well, yeah, I'm here. You know,
Speaker 1: I was like, should we bring this guy back? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I was waiting outside to do it. I
Speaker 1: was holding my lucky charm, just waiting for the call up.
Speaker 1: And here I am. Y'all know yourself. It's good to
Speaker 1: be back.
Speaker 3: Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our
Speaker 3: third seat by an actor, educator, podcast host of the
Speaker 3: show's Living Forward, and the creator of the podcast Caucus
Speaker 3: After the Fall. Please welcome the very fucking interesting Hey.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, Hey, it was awesome to be here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I was quoting the great Bard Miles Gray said,
Speaker 3: where did we get this very interesting guest?
Speaker 1: Yeah? This is amazing because again, so full disclosure. You know,
Speaker 1: when we're looking like read up on our guests and stuff.
Speaker 1: I discover Taya also mixed race, also Japanese. I'm like
Speaker 1: also black but also Filipino. Dane. It I was like,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, no, no, what is
Speaker 1: going on? But Taya do this up? Like I was
Speaker 1: like you you're like my mixed race o. G you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I love I love to have
Speaker 1: people there. And we were just talking shit about Tokyo
Speaker 1: or not talking shit, but you know, just talking our
Speaker 1: ship about Tokyo. So just it's nice. It's nice to
Speaker 1: have you know what, talking ship about to No, no,
Speaker 1: never never there because Tokyo will fuck your ship up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying before I'm gonna Tokyo in about a
Speaker 3: month and a half and.
Speaker 1: Have your head on a swivel, bro. But that Dodger's
Speaker 1: hat will protect you because yeah, because we have we
Speaker 1: have Sasaki and Old Tony. Now so yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're good, You're good, all right. Yeah. No, when I
Speaker 1: was there last time, right after we signed Old Tony,
Speaker 1: you couldn't buy it, like there were no Dodger hats
Speaker 1: to available for saying oh yeah yeah yeah yeah no,
Speaker 1: trust me, you will be That's a protective cloak. Even
Speaker 1: though there is nothing you need protection.
Speaker 3: I can get it. I get it, all right. Well, Tayo,
Speaker 3: we're going to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 3: better in a moment. But first, a couple of things
Speaker 3: we're talking about. We're gonna talk about they're just basically
Speaker 3: blaming the letters DEI for everything in the government. Right now,
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about how that's going. And finally
Speaker 3: some good news. An asteroid could hit ear within twenty
Speaker 3: thirty two, So writing time for Trump's third bite of
Speaker 3: the apple.
Speaker 1: Third consecutive term, third consecutive consecutive term. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard reset time, baby. Yeah. Get those thera guns out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: In the past, we've talked about, you know, doing a
Speaker 3: hard reset with a thera gun, just like to pet
Speaker 3: their gun to the temple.
Speaker 1: But lightly massage your temple. Hope they'll jar all the time.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe this will just do the job for us.
Speaker 3: All of that plenty more, But first, Tayo, we do
Speaker 3: like to ask our guests, what is something from your
Speaker 3: search history that's revealing about who you are.
Speaker 2: I wanted to know how many feet there were in
Speaker 2: a mile?
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on and two old eighty ah.
Speaker 2: I was gonna get and and And the reason I
Speaker 2: was searching it was because I was doing some simple calculations,
Speaker 2: and having grown up in Japan, we don't use the
Speaker 2: what it's called the imperial, which is kind of interesting
Speaker 2: way to get comperial?
Speaker 1: How do you use the right one? Why don't you
Speaker 1: use the good ones?
Speaker 2: That's right, the imperial. So it turns out it's five
Speaker 2: and eighty. Yeah, so my question is why, why so complicated?
Speaker 2: And then I just started to do another search for
Speaker 2: how many ounces are in a pound?
Speaker 1: Sixteen? Yeah, sixteen? I do know that.
Speaker 2: Why is it sixteen?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because because that's how that's how much
Speaker 1: it weighs when you put the weed on the scale,
Speaker 1: when you've got to say sixteen or the sh is light?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, why don't you use in inquitive measurements like.
Speaker 1: As the base unit? I mean, did you guys see that?
Speaker 1: That skets When Nate Bargatzi hosted SNL like last year
Speaker 1: the Joye Washington's founding father. It's so funny because the
Speaker 1: whole thing is about He's like, and how many feet
Speaker 1: in this Miley? And they're like, what what? Why?
Speaker 2: Yes, what's the purpose of that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the best recent SNL sketches I
Speaker 1: think kills me. Do you remember.
Speaker 3: Like any point where it was just agreed that the
Speaker 3: US was in the process of transitioning to the metric system,
Speaker 3: and then it just never happened. Like, so I went
Speaker 3: to elementary and middle school in like, you know, late eighties,
Speaker 3: early nineties, and that was a thing that they were
Speaker 3: just like, and soon we'll all be on the metric system,
Speaker 3: so you should be learning the metric system mainly, but
Speaker 3: you know, this is the old bullshit way of doing things.
Speaker 3: And then it just like never happened.
Speaker 2: Well, I came to the States in nineteen eighty one
Speaker 2: for collage.
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 2: My wife grew up in the States, and she tells
Speaker 2: me that when I was not here, they had attempted to,
Speaker 2: like in the back of the milk cartons, they had
Speaker 2: like just a comparison chart between metric and the imperial system. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then it just kind of went away.
Speaker 3: And then people were just like the monkey guys at
Speaker 3: the beginning of two thousand and one, They're like, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they threw theirs.
Speaker 2: The question is why is it so hard? Why is
Speaker 2: it so difficult?
Speaker 3: So this is a theory that I'm just coming up
Speaker 3: with right now. But I have noticed that one of
Speaker 3: the strategies for power and capital in the United States
Speaker 3: is to hide behind complexity to make things so. You know,
Speaker 3: all the stories about what Ela Musk is doing to
Speaker 3: the government, like I trust that it's bad. I don't
Speaker 3: know what most of this shit means, you know, like
Speaker 3: it just requires a lot of homework and complexity, and
Speaker 3: like all like the way that corporations and big banks
Speaker 3: have kind of fucked things up in the past three decades.
Speaker 3: Like it's hidden in complexity. And I think that's the
Speaker 3: way that neoliberalism works in a lot of the time.
Speaker 3: You know, it's the tax code and how American taxes
Speaker 3: are super complicated and other countries are like here's your bill,
Speaker 3: thank you. I think they like to exhaust us, to
Speaker 3: like make things complicated so that we don't fuck with
Speaker 3: how things are, how they're operating behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: I call it distract and destroy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 3: Distract, exhaust, you know, just make it, make it exhausting,
Speaker 3: make it seem like homework, and then the people who
Speaker 3: went to an Ivy League college and are just like
Speaker 3: so horny for homework can just do all the homework
Speaker 3: and steal steal all the money.
Speaker 1: I just read that. The reason it's five two hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty feet is because the Brits in fifteen ninety
Speaker 1: two are like a mile because the Roman mile was
Speaker 1: five thousand feet and they're like, nah, let's throw another
Speaker 1: to eighty because they're like, we think a mile should
Speaker 1: be eight furlongs. A furlong six hundred and sixty feet
Speaker 1: furlong sounds like some horseshit, right, like something to do
Speaker 1: with Hey, already furlong though, you know from Terminator too,
Speaker 1: all right, one of the great furlongs? Did he didn't
Speaker 1: make it right, did he not?
Speaker 3: No, Brad Renfro, I was thinking Renfro. Sorry, guys, guys, sorry,
Speaker 3: I was thinking Remfro.
Speaker 1: Yeah for long Heyo. What's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2: Botox?
Speaker 1: Botox?
Speaker 5: Yeah, botulism toxin, yes, under the very botulism toxin.
Speaker 1: So I I had injected in my face this morning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Jackie look shocked. Yeah, right, did
Speaker 1: you know what was gonna happen?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I inherited from my father the ability to
Speaker 2: squeeze my my forehead when I'm thinking so much, I
Speaker 2: look like a like a klingon. It just starts to
Speaker 2: bunch up over here in the middle and a bunch
Speaker 2: of years ago, my wife said to me, you know,
Speaker 2: as an on camera person, as an actor, you might
Speaker 2: want to take a look at that. And I was like,
Speaker 2: it's part of my identity, you know, way, what the heck,
Speaker 2: you know, and then about it, and then I say,
Speaker 2: it's not going to stick that way. Well eventually it did,
Speaker 2: and two weeks three weeks ago, I had just a
Speaker 2: little injection over here, and now it actually feels like
Speaker 2: I'm not squeezing my eyebrows. So I just say, there's
Speaker 2: a limit, you know, like you know, right, So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a little bit underrated. I wasn't gonna do it
Speaker 2: for for decades, but.
Speaker 3: And nowhere off. You know, sometimes Nicole Kidman would roll
Speaker 3: in looking like just something had happened, like neurologically something
Speaker 3: had happened. But then she has still maintained as like
Speaker 3: one of our finest actors.
Speaker 1: So it you know it, but.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not permanent.
Speaker 1: So that's another thing.
Speaker 3: It does feel weird like you're put injecting poison into
Speaker 3: your face to fix things.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that it's like eating nutella. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's not any worse.
Speaker 1: Right, exactly. Nutella is poison.
Speaker 3: It is wild like as you age that the thing
Speaker 3: like that people told me when I was young, like
Speaker 3: don't make that face, it'll stick that way does end
Speaker 3: up being true a little bit. It's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: you're like there, yeah, you frown so much, you have
Speaker 3: weird wrinkles.
Speaker 2: You you want to die with a smile, Yes, that
Speaker 2: would be the optimum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or in your street yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: But maybe you're just like you don't even know what's happening,
Speaker 3: Like you're just like, wait, who, why is this like
Speaker 3: the end of suppressed the plug on the TV, or
Speaker 3: like you're in the middle of a dream, and then
Speaker 3: then they're like, hey, bro, come over here.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, right now, right there. Yeah yeah, come right
Speaker 1: over here, right over here, idiot.
Speaker 2: That sounds really creepy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, maybe that is.
Speaker 3: You get like an icy like feeling on your spine
Speaker 3: right as the darkness closes in that's the way to go. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then the dream never ends, so it's just a
Speaker 3: never ending feeling of being unsettled and creeping chill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think a lot about that, like the bad death scenarios. Yeah,
Speaker 3: looks like it's gonna hurt. That's my main thing looks
Speaker 3: like it hurts, It looks unpleasant.
Speaker 1: Tell you what's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 2: The Imperial metric system, Wow, okay, hold on point on
Speaker 2: her point right? Or selfie sticks. I think selfie sticks
Speaker 2: are overrated. O.
Speaker 1: Man, where's last time you saw a selfie stick?
Speaker 2: Well, that's the point. Yeah, I mean, you know they
Speaker 2: probably sold millions of them. You know, people are thinking,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna like enhance my identity on Instagram by holding
Speaker 2: out this big stick, and then you end up at
Speaker 2: a party and where's the stick?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's true. We've I'm like, it's funny, like
Speaker 1: where did where have all the selfie sticks gone? Where
Speaker 1: all the.
Speaker 3: Going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean that is Yeah. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: funny because you know, in Japan, you'll see like on
Speaker 1: the train platform they're like, put that motherfucking selfie stick away.
Speaker 1: They have so many selfie stick warnings because they think
Speaker 1: sometimes someone might get it so high it'll hit like
Speaker 1: the fucking power lines above the train track or something related.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, you can see the voltage connecting in
Speaker 3: the middle of the behind his eyes.
Speaker 1: I got a photo of the guy. You could see
Speaker 1: an arc from the cable to the guy's selfie selfie stick.
Speaker 2: That's right, That is not AI that actually happened, right.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, there's some stuff like that that's just
Speaker 3: like invented by people with add who don't know or
Speaker 3: who don't have a d D and don't know enough
Speaker 3: people who have a d D Like, yeah, no, this
Speaker 3: will be good and people just remember them and they
Speaker 3: won't be clogging up our lost and founds for decades
Speaker 3: from now. But yeah, selfie sticks just couldn't be me
Speaker 3: having a selfie stick.
Speaker 1: Be careful, you never know that, you never know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it could be me for twelve hours and
Speaker 3: then and then I will lose that shit. I have noticed, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I took my kids to the the not
Speaker 3: the Redwood for it, the Sequoia like National Park over
Speaker 3: over the holidays, and you know, we're it's just a
Speaker 3: big like line of people taking selfies in various locations.
Speaker 1: And when I.
Speaker 3: Would offer to take people's pictures a lot of time
Speaker 3: they're like no, like I just want to like take
Speaker 3: a selfie like that. There's a weird like selfie culture,
Speaker 3: like right, purity of selfies.
Speaker 1: Well it could it could have been were you sweating
Speaker 1: a lot. I was sweating, and I'm gonna take that.
Speaker 3: I seem to you a little desperate to take their picture.
Speaker 1: Hey hey, hey, hey, it's that guy again. You want help.
Speaker 6: We're in the car. You are great, right now? Hey
Speaker 6: hey hey great? Pay sure, hey hey, just give me
Speaker 6: your camera. I'll give it back. I'll give it back.
Speaker 6: I'll give it back. You do it in the back.
Speaker 3: Seat of our car. If they approached, he I was
Speaker 3: gonna get I was going to get a candid.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean people like a selfie more. I mean
Speaker 1: I think it's probably generational because like when I see
Speaker 1: people my age and older, you definitely are doing that thing.
Speaker 1: We're like, oh yeah, yeah, Ki, thank you so much,
Speaker 1: so much, because sometimes I don't I think personally, I don't.
Speaker 1: Selfies aren't the most flattering angle for me.
Speaker 2: But when you when you see a selfie that was
Speaker 2: taken the like let's say President Obama, like people around him,
Speaker 2: then it's like, Wow, the president is taking a selfie,
Speaker 2: right cue that's yeah, that that's really cool. That's cool
Speaker 2: to see because and it's not a generational thing. I
Speaker 2: don't think. I think it's it's all it's like a
Speaker 2: Hubris thing. It's like a it's a it's a cultural thing.
Speaker 2: I think right now in the world where we're looking
Speaker 2: too much into ourselves, Am I getting too metaphoric? Maybe
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think this is the type of ship
Speaker 1: we do on the show. I was like, or maybe
Speaker 1: it's faux populist for a politician to take a selfie,
Speaker 1: like look, I am just like you poor people the selfies.
Speaker 3: Let me get my hands out of the picture. Person
Speaker 3: a service agent. You can take the picture and I'll
Speaker 3: look like a selfie the Yeah, but gen Z likes
Speaker 3: selfies because they're like, I don't know, it seems like
Speaker 3: I'm all alone in this world since you've poisoned it
Speaker 3: and created a system where like we're just communicating to
Speaker 3: each other in isolation through social media.
Speaker 1: So why would it? Why would I not take a selfie? Right?
Speaker 1: Non selfies are a lie? Okay Dad, wow Dad? Like
Speaker 1: cas is Mark Zuckerberg, Oh.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, wow you you jumped that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went, yeah, we do do something, do something
Speaker 1: because we'll get in the cage. We not like Elon.
Speaker 3: I'll tell Mark Zuckerberg give anything like five ten. He
Speaker 3: looks tall, looks like normal sizes. Yeah, normal, not normal,
Speaker 3: but like not He's not neither super tall or super short.
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, were we actually this? Just in
Speaker 1: I thought five to five seven, five seven okay, Jeff Bezos, Wow, okay,
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs six two? Really a hey did that? If
Speaker 1: you measure down now? Look, yeah, look what are we doing?
Speaker 3: So, yeah, Zuckerberg would be in like a pretty low
Speaker 3: weight class in the cage. Is it is what I'm
Speaker 3: trying to.
Speaker 1: It would be yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ye see what
Speaker 1: what what he's walking into the ring? His his weight
Speaker 1: at that point?
Speaker 2: Is that using the metric system.
Speaker 1: Or Imperial metric system? Imperial? Yeah, we are a strictly
Speaker 1: imperial podcast. He's ten stone. We actually go deeper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's actually ten and a half stone.
Speaker 3: And yeah, measure height by like chickens, I don't know
Speaker 3: whatever whatever you have on the farm.
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, let's take a couple breaks. Let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break. Hey, you know, Lea's Friday. Take
Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back, and man, this DEI stuff.
Speaker 3: I guess it's pretty bad according to according to the
Speaker 3: headlines I've been seeing.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, everything's the every it's the cause of all
Speaker 1: of all of the problems in the United States. Crash
Speaker 1: the moment the e I d I crashed that boat
Speaker 1: into the bridge in Baltimore. Yeah, DEI is is it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a what do they say. It's just it's
Speaker 1: this destructive ideology. That's what they always say. Is sort
Speaker 1: of like a catch all description of it. But it's
Speaker 1: been a gift to Republicans in that they use it
Speaker 1: again as a catch all to describe anything that isn't
Speaker 1: to their liking. It's basically shorthand for it's those damn
Speaker 1: insert group here that are ruining the air traffic controllers.
Speaker 3: Okay, those dang insert group here FAA, and not the
Speaker 3: firing of the head of the FAA, nah, not weeks
Speaker 3: before now.
Speaker 1: And aside from you know, trying to completely destroy the
Speaker 1: federal government, Trump two point zero is clearly focused on
Speaker 1: trying to erode any sense of decency and inclusiveness that
Speaker 1: we have as Americans that's been fostered over many decades,
Speaker 1: and so many headlines this week are crammed with references
Speaker 1: to DEI as it relates to the actions of the administration.
Speaker 1: So just for starters, right, like the Pentagon was directed
Speaker 1: to be. Like, dude, I don't want to see the
Speaker 1: word diversity anywhere West Point. You have affinity groups for
Speaker 1: the people, for the cadets at West Point, get it
Speaker 1: out of here. If it has an ethnic group name,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about Japanese cadets or South
Speaker 1: Asian engineering groups. Get rid of all of it. So
Speaker 1: at the White House they took down their Spanish language website.
Speaker 1: The FBI headquarters had their walls painted over for having
Speaker 1: banned words scrawled on it, like diversity. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess that doesn't feel like too much of a
Speaker 1: loss considering what the FBI was doing with co Intel pro.
Speaker 1: But hey, look they put the words up on the
Speaker 1: walls nonetheless. And he recently fired the head of the
Speaker 1: US Coast Guard, Commandant Linda Fagan, and evicted her from
Speaker 1: her foot like home that's you know, part of like
Speaker 1: that comes with the position, with only like three hours notice.
Speaker 1: So she wasn't even able to get like all of
Speaker 1: her personal belongings out. And Fagan is the first woman
Speaker 1: to lead a branch of the military, and predictably, the
Speaker 1: rationale for her termination was border security issues and a
Speaker 1: quote excessive focus on diversity, equity and inclusion. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is just a very Again, they're using all of this stuff,
Speaker 1: anything linked with DEI to then, I think, just to
Speaker 1: sort of transmit to their audience that, oh, she's out
Speaker 1: because of DEI. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't do that,
Speaker 1: because that's the new whatever, you know, the bad thing
Speaker 1: is now. Then this week there was a report of
Speaker 1: a DEI watch list that was targeting federal employees. The
Speaker 1: list says it's quote exposing the unelected career staff driving
Speaker 1: radical diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives within the federal government.
Speaker 1: And on Thursday, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that
Speaker 1: he was going to skip the fucking G twenty summit
Speaker 1: in South Africa because do I even have to finish
Speaker 1: this sentence? He says, quote on x or fuck it
Speaker 1: with on Twitter. South Africa is doing very bad things.
Speaker 1: Expropriating private was written by Trump. They're doing very bad things,
Speaker 1: very bad things. They're expropriating private property. Not true, using
Speaker 1: using G twenty to promote quote solidarity, equality and sustainance
Speaker 1: to sustainability, in other words, DEI and climate change. Rubio's
Speaker 1: claims are nonsense. But we've seen this logic from racists before.
Speaker 3: He was saying they're doing climate change or the no
Speaker 3: no change is like just acknowledging sustainability.
Speaker 1: That sustainability. You're not going to trick me. I don't.
Speaker 1: The only thing I'm trying to sustain are these corporate profits,
Speaker 1: baby and me with all that environmental nonsense.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So again, the South Africa stuff is something that Elon
Speaker 1: Musk was saying, like they're taking things away from the
Speaker 1: white the colonisers.
Speaker 3: Basically, yeah, that's why it was so hard for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean why'd you leave in the
Speaker 1: late eighties early nineties, bro? Anyway, whatever, that's fine.
Speaker 3: It's usually fine. When white person leaves South Africa is
Speaker 3: usually for a good reason that has good or one
Speaker 3: shady undertones, no notifying human rights abuses hiding behind it.
Speaker 1: But like we saw this logic in the summer of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, right, Like any amount of rebalancing the scales
Speaker 1: to help people is seen as this zero sum game
Speaker 1: where everything is being taken away from white people in
Speaker 1: an order to achieve some semblance of equity. And again
Speaker 1: this is all part of the plan and like it's
Speaker 1: meant to normalize hate and maintain the sort of like
Speaker 1: de facto white hegemony. And if people's sensitivities to hateful
Speaker 1: policies wear down enough, then this administration knows they can
Speaker 1: take things to truly unfathomable, like I mean, it's already unfathomable,
Speaker 1: like things that we're not even saying right now. Who
Speaker 1: knows what they have? I mean, we've read Project twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, so we have an idea, but it's all
Speaker 1: part and parcel of this. And like Taya, you have,
Speaker 1: you know, dedicated most of your career to equity, diversity inclusiveness,
Speaker 1: like through entertainment and many other things, and you've spoken
Speaker 1: a lot about it. How how do you sort of
Speaker 1: see I mean, I'm sure over the many years you've
Speaker 1: been doing this, you've seen this back and forth, back
Speaker 1: and forth, But how are you viewing like this just rampant,
Speaker 1: just sort of like thoughtless attack on DEI.
Speaker 2: I've been doing this work, meaning diversity, equity inclusion even
Speaker 2: before it was called diversity ecuay inclusion. In fact, the
Speaker 2: name of my company is Entertaining diversity. And when I
Speaker 2: was using that word back in the early nine nineties,
Speaker 2: people didn't even know what it meant. Prior to that,
Speaker 2: it was called race relations. You know, this is back
Speaker 2: in the in the seventies and eighties, so the whole
Speaker 2: concept of diversaic conclusion is very old, and we've seen
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of pushback over the years,
Speaker 2: never like this. Never in my thirty three years in
Speaker 2: this business, I've never seen it like this. It is
Speaker 2: an outright attack. So I've never seen it like this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's just wild to see. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: for part of me feels like this is just sort
Speaker 1: of a reaction to and we talked about this, I
Speaker 1: think on yesterday's episode of just so many organizations going
Speaker 1: along with this concept without really believing in it, so
Speaker 1: it makes it very easy to backslide. We're like, it's
Speaker 1: like they were holding there, going along with d I went, yeah,
Speaker 1: theah o years. Oh thank god, okay, We're okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: we can't. I don't even know how to do any
Speaker 1: of this, and I really didn't care about it. So
Speaker 1: thank god we're not being told this is the norm anymore.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, like it it it just to
Speaker 1: see this, like I see all the many ways they're
Speaker 1: targeting this specifically. It's like a way to speak misogynistically, homophobically,
Speaker 1: race in a racist manner without using you know, actual
Speaker 1: slurs or supercharged language. It's like the perfect dog whistle
Speaker 1: for them to use to sort of attack all of
Speaker 1: these sort of these groups. But I also just see
Speaker 1: it too as they're really just like with the stuff
Speaker 1: with trying to like dial back like sexual liberation as
Speaker 1: a way to control people's bodies, like dialing back this
Speaker 1: like the the the validity and the like the noble
Speaker 1: cause that is trying to create more equity in our
Speaker 1: society to try to diminish that is all part of again,
Speaker 1: to make like racism the default or at least indifference
Speaker 1: to racism, like just sort of the law of the land,
Speaker 1: and everybody saying like, look, we're past this, so now
Speaker 1: let's operate from this understanding.
Speaker 2: Well, going back to a Jackie, what you said earlier
Speaker 2: about and then prompted the phrase distract and destroy. I
Speaker 2: forget what phrase you used, but it's the distract part.
Speaker 2: It's the distract part. What is really happening right, If
Speaker 2: this is what we're focusing on, there's something else going on.
Speaker 2: That's what I want to know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean I think this is all. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of it has to do with a
Speaker 1: lot of the hijinks Elon Musk is pulling now in
Speaker 1: terms of really like while all of this sort of
Speaker 1: these policies are being rolled back, like what he's doing
Speaker 1: is truly unprecedented, Like we've never just had somebody who's
Speaker 1: not been elected, who's not even you know, has no
Speaker 1: position aside from like a special office within the government,
Speaker 1: to just pull up to the Treasury and be like, all, right,
Speaker 1: hand everything over, I'm give me this. I'm plugging in
Speaker 1: my servers here. This is how it's all happening. And yeah,
Speaker 1: the damage that's being done there or the potential for damage, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have quite Yeah, And.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like it's only distraction because I think
Speaker 3: it's also like a overall plan of attack, which is
Speaker 3: break everything, and then when the thing is broken and
Speaker 3: malfunctioning and people's lives are getting ruined, find a way
Speaker 3: to blame you know, DEI a woman who has a job,
Speaker 3: a black person who has a job, you know, finding
Speaker 3: a way to give the people a scapegoat, which see
Speaker 3: they've found works incredibly well, like they rode that all
Speaker 3: the They rode racism all the way to the White House,
Speaker 3: so they have they have the data to show that
Speaker 3: like that that plan of break everything blame Dei. People
Speaker 3: will kind of go along with that, and then as
Speaker 3: the thing is broken, you get to enrich yourself by
Speaker 3: figuring out how you want to build it back. Like
Speaker 3: that seems to be a pretty good summation of like
Speaker 3: their entire philosophy and like plan of attack at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think the distraction part is that Weird
Speaker 1: America is like on the brink of levels of class
Speaker 1: consciousness that would make billionaires very nervous. Right. The Luigi
Speaker 1: Mangioni thing was an absolute like warning to them. They're like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? People people don't care if like the
Speaker 1: people who are at the levers of like a very
Speaker 1: predatory business like for profit healthcare, if something like what
Speaker 1: is going on? And I think being able to because
Speaker 1: most people, most intelligent people would probably arrive to some
Speaker 1: conclusion that it's a combination of like oligarchy kleptocracy, that
Speaker 1: the wealthy are funneling all of the resources that normal
Speaker 1: people need to live. It's going to them, and so
Speaker 1: they're trying to explain away this phenomenon by just sort
Speaker 1: of doing this blanket sort of explanation that it's like,
Speaker 1: it's dude, it has nothing to do with the business owners.
Speaker 1: It has everything to do with diversity, equity and inclusion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why. But again, and it's hard. It's it's a
Speaker 1: hard point to sell. Like, sure, that's going to appeal
Speaker 1: to people who are just inherently have these like racist,
Speaker 1: bigoted beliefs that of course they just as people, they
Speaker 1: don't want to see other people win, except for people
Speaker 1: that look like them. But there are also people who
Speaker 1: clearly are also sort of wising up on some level,
Speaker 1: not at a point to the kind of critical mass
Speaker 1: I think we need to sort of have something super
Speaker 1: meaningful happen immediately, but to the point where there are
Speaker 1: many people who are much more curious about talking about
Speaker 1: billionaires and wondering what their part is in all of this.
Speaker 1: And I think you just got to read their biography
Speaker 1: of the mouth they get. They write biographies, so you
Speaker 1: just read their version of it, and it's always a
Speaker 1: really good source of how how they built whatever, how
Speaker 1: they built their insurance company that they inherited from their dad,
Speaker 1: in a garage by themselves while.
Speaker 3: Everybody was telling them that they couldn't do it and
Speaker 3: they were stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's I mean it's it's super frightening.
Speaker 1: And I mean, what do you usually when you try
Speaker 1: and when you speak to groups of people about like
Speaker 1: what diversity means and how that's a strength. What do
Speaker 1: you like, especially in a group of people who have
Speaker 1: never heard, like or even given a thought, what's you think?
Speaker 1: What like a more underrated part that I mean aside
Speaker 1: from that, like this is the right thing to do,
Speaker 1: like that it's a source of stability strength, Like what
Speaker 1: what are the sort of aspects of this that we're
Speaker 1: not talking about? That if you take away this concept,
Speaker 1: or at least the takeaway our interest and motivation to
Speaker 1: pursue more diversity and equity, like what that does to
Speaker 1: us in a negative way?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that the United States is in many
Speaker 2: ways unique, and certainly certain parts of the US, large
Speaker 2: cities like New York Los Angeles are very inherently very
Speaker 2: diverse and diverse in so many ways. If you've ever
Speaker 2: been to New York City, you will hear many languages,
Speaker 2: You'll see people dressed in all kinds of ways women
Speaker 2: empowerment in power, and there's there's an affinity that is
Speaker 2: very different in some ways from much of the country
Speaker 2: in terms of living next door literally and on top
Speaker 2: of each other with people who don't look, sound, smell
Speaker 2: like you. You know, it's you know, it's such an
Speaker 2: interesting place. My mother lived there for thirty years, you know,
Speaker 2: it was it was always eye opening to know that
Speaker 2: in the United States a place like this could exist.
Speaker 2: One of the things that attracted me to staying in
Speaker 2: the United States when I came here from Japan. Japan
Speaker 2: is a very homogeneous place. At least it was very
Speaker 2: much so back when I was growing up there. It's
Speaker 2: changed a little bit, but you know, it's it's going
Speaker 2: to take a long time. But the challenge is when
Speaker 2: there are opportunities that are restricted against certain people for
Speaker 2: their gender, their sex, their age, their race, their ethnicity,
Speaker 2: their culture, then there's no way for them to succeed
Speaker 2: in a country which promotes the idea of inclusion in
Speaker 2: everything that's written from the early stages, even if it
Speaker 2: wasn't carried out the way there should have been, especially
Speaker 2: during slavery, and it certainly took quite a long time
Speaker 2: for women to get the vote and for people have
Speaker 2: call it to get the vote. The point of DEI
Speaker 2: in a training model is to help support the idea
Speaker 2: that people from different backgrounds and different experiences can work
Speaker 2: together in ways to If it's B to B meaning
Speaker 2: business to business, then organization, then it's so that the
Speaker 2: company can succeed financially and they can make a profit.
Speaker 2: So it is a somewhat of a capitalist nuance. But
Speaker 2: when it comes to things like should you be able
Speaker 2: to walk down the street and not afraid of someone
Speaker 2: who doesn't look like you, it is because we're prompted
Speaker 2: by so by the media and social media and the
Speaker 2: world and the news and people like Trump. You know
Speaker 2: that that to scare, the scare tactic is what causes
Speaker 2: people to have paused before engaging with people who are
Speaker 2: not like themselves. So DEI is not is not a
Speaker 2: solution so much at is it's a support for people
Speaker 2: to understand how to work across differences.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've covered before, but one of my favorite soft
Speaker 3: sciences studies when they like tested these like groups and
Speaker 3: like they had groups that are diverse and then groups
Speaker 3: that are not diverse at solving like a challenging problem.
Speaker 3: The two results are one that the diverse group does
Speaker 3: better at solving the problem because you have more different
Speaker 3: types of minds coming at the problem from different you know, backgrounds,
Speaker 3: different experiences. But second that the non diver like the
Speaker 3: homogeneous group, is more confident that they got the right
Speaker 3: answer even though they're they're more likely to be wrong
Speaker 3: because they're just it's like less challenging, you know, it's
Speaker 3: more comfortable for them, and so they just comfortably you know,
Speaker 3: strong and wrong, which I think matches would be a
Speaker 3: good summation of this administration where they're just you know,
Speaker 3: very confident, very comfortable in their privilege and in their
Speaker 3: like shared experiences and just fucking couldn't be more wrong
Speaker 3: about more things. So yeah, and it just feels like anytime,
Speaker 3: the the fact is that like this backlash and this
Speaker 3: backlash that we've seen historically every time white supremacy is
Speaker 3: challenged in this country, and like white male supremacy in particular,
Speaker 3: the backlash is just like that's what they're reacting to,
Speaker 3: is the comfort that's cost when people are like, what
Speaker 3: if it's not just only you guys in a room
Speaker 3: smoking cigars and making the decision for with that.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? It's discomfort.
Speaker 3: It's the discomfort, and I think I've always like had
Speaker 3: this sense that it's also a knowledge deep down that
Speaker 3: it is superior to have diversity, and like they're terrified
Speaker 3: of that, and so that's where the violence comes from,
Speaker 3: the sense that they know they're wrong, and they're.
Speaker 2: Well, if you're there, if the January sixth attack was
Speaker 2: all black people, or all people of color, or all gay,
Speaker 2: gay and lesbian people, you know, that would have been
Speaker 2: a completely different response.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you know, to say that they were
Speaker 2: there for you know, they were there as tourists or
Speaker 2: just to kind of visit is not just an understatement.
Speaker 2: It's dangerous because they it was an attack. People died, right, Yeah, Well, we'll.
Speaker 1: See how well this works. I mean, this is this
Speaker 1: is they continue to hammer and hammer away at it
Speaker 1: and to the point now where like people don't it's
Speaker 1: like the same like how it was everything was woke
Speaker 1: and they couldn't even like the people had trouble really
Speaker 1: explaining woke. Woke is yeah, yeah, because in the end
Speaker 1: you're gonna arrive at something like that's actually like a
Speaker 1: decent thing where you know, not not to just be
Speaker 1: like it just means they hate like white people's stuff. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's it's about actually being like respectful of other people's
Speaker 1: differences and trying to create a world where we're able
Speaker 1: to respect all that so everyone can live to be
Speaker 1: themselves in a way that they don't feel that they're
Speaker 1: under duress or threat because they are straying outside of
Speaker 1: whatever is dictated as quote the norm. Uh. And guess
Speaker 1: what for all the people, it's not gonna hurt you.
Speaker 1: It won't hurt you. In fact that if that everyone
Speaker 1: is like living on an equitable like playing field. Actually,
Speaker 1: that's where real stability comes from. When you have people
Speaker 1: that are like left to just rot by the wayside.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's truly like the beginnings of how so
Speaker 1: many of our our issues come about. But again, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is all about just sort of defending the concept
Speaker 1: of like we're the most right people and anything that
Speaker 1: is contrary to that is an attack and we will
Speaker 1: target you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you know, being who I am, I have
Speaker 3: to say I'm very confident they're going to get this right.
Speaker 3: Trump And Uh, as a white guy, I feel like
Speaker 3: they got this.
Speaker 1: I just think we should just chill.
Speaker 3: I'm I have a high level of confidence.
Speaker 1: And I mean someone asking Tommy Tuberville, a football coach,
Speaker 1: They're like, did you just feel all white players? Why not? Right?
Speaker 1: Why not? Huh? Why not that? Why don't you keep
Speaker 1: it a buck? Because that looked like I mean that,
Speaker 1: this is like again, the logic is so fucking flimsy.
Speaker 2: But again, and how we went from the giggling Elmo
Speaker 2: to Jeffrey Dahmer overnight? Ye, I don't know how that happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I will say one thought that occurred
Speaker 3: to me just as you were talking about, like their
Speaker 3: you know, treatment of Commandant Linda Fagan, like somebody who
Speaker 3: the first woman to lead a branch of the military
Speaker 3: despite being a woman, like not not because being like
Speaker 3: despite up against one of the most sexist organizations in
Speaker 3: the history of a civilization. Like these are people that
Speaker 3: I have to feel like it's not wise of Trump
Speaker 3: and Musk and this whole administration to just be blindly
Speaker 3: alienating and making enemies of and then being like, all right,
Speaker 3: you're out on.
Speaker 1: Your ass, see you later.
Speaker 3: Like I feel like at some point that could come
Speaker 3: back and bite them in the ass.
Speaker 1: We'll see.
Speaker 3: But like I just you know, everybody's like he's being strong,
Speaker 3: and it's like, yeah, I think he's like not, I
Speaker 3: think he's like more like a handle with a D.
Speaker 3: D feels like what where he's coming from.
Speaker 2: That's a great cartoon character, rightandal a horse in a hospital,
Speaker 2: as John Mulaney called it, or yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I think. I mean you just look right now,
Speaker 1: it's like Trump is just basically eroding all American soft
Speaker 1: power too, Like in this thing to be like in
Speaker 1: America is going to be dominant. It's like you think
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that on your fucking own. We're not,
Speaker 1: And you're gonna other other relationships are going to are
Speaker 1: already forming because of the actions of this administration that
Speaker 1: will put the US in jeopardy, whether that's you know,
Speaker 1: from a security standpoint or financially economically whatever. But yeah,
Speaker 1: all of this stuff. I mean, that's what's funny is
Speaker 1: when you when you pursue a policy that's like it
Speaker 1: only needs to be us and that's it, you're gonna
Speaker 1: fail because inherently we do. This is all interconnected and
Speaker 1: we do depend on each other. It's not like America's
Speaker 1: its own fucking planet where it's not like and it's like,
Speaker 1: that's it, and we don't have to worry about anything
Speaker 1: because we are this is our own ecosystem, and everything
Speaker 1: else it will just fall in mine because it's just us.
Speaker 1: It's it's very, very, very stupid.
Speaker 2: And I just wish, I wish they saw how stupid.
Speaker 1: This is, but I guess not. This is their this
Speaker 1: is their fantasy times.
Speaker 2: It's hard to see that you're stupid when you're stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. That's true. When I was at my
Speaker 1: stupidest in my early twenties, that was a fucking genius.
Speaker 3: You couldn't tell me shit, the most confident I've ever been.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my stupidest. That that fall from when
Speaker 1: you realize how stupid you are, that's a fuck. That's
Speaker 1: the worst pill you have to swallow.
Speaker 3: Like, especially I'm wearing clothes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like you have never done that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've never looked down and realize you're not wearing clothes. No, no,
Speaker 3: I have to.
Speaker 1: Hey, you simply must. It's such a great experience. You
Speaker 1: simply must be thrown out of multiple iye hops in
Speaker 1: the span of one month.
Speaker 3: It's come to from a blackout and realize you're not
Speaker 3: wearing clothes.
Speaker 2: Those pancakes are stacked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's on my body.
Speaker 3: Caked up in many ways, in many ways, he was
Speaker 3: caked up. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll
Speaker 3: come back and talk about the asteroid that could hit Earth.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back and we're back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're back. Be better, dude, do oh wow,
Speaker 1: it's like a yacht rock than Golden Oldies. Baby. On
Speaker 1: the daily side, Geist Miles, I like this headline.
Speaker 3: I'll let you read your headline here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I wrote, Oh thank god, an asteroid could
Speaker 1: hit Earth in twenty thirty two. That's it. Hard reset time, baby. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So twenty thirty two, the year Donald Trump's disembodied head
Speaker 1: that speaks using AI will run for its third consecutive
Speaker 1: term in office. But hey, if Democrats play their cards right,
Speaker 1: they won't have to do anything because an asteroid has
Speaker 1: the potential to smash into Earth. At the end of
Speaker 1: last year, so that the Asteroid Terrestrial Impact Impact Last Alert
Speaker 1: System at list noticed an asteroid that was making its
Speaker 1: way over to our little blue Marble and its orbit
Speaker 1: had the chance of impacting Earth. In twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 1: but that was quickly ruled out. But on its next
Speaker 1: go round in twenty thirty two, they're saying there's about
Speaker 1: a one point nine percent chance that it could hit
Speaker 1: the planet Earth States of America. And first of all,
Speaker 1: I'm like, why the fuck is this thing tied to
Speaker 1: presidential cycles. I don't like the I don't like the
Speaker 1: idea that it's orbit comes around every presidential cycle. They're like,
Speaker 1: we're twenty thirty six. I don't know ab time. I
Speaker 1: hope you have a super pac asteroid. It's a big
Speaker 1: fan of the Olympics. Yeah, it's just like roll through
Speaker 1: before you start cruising, like deep core drilling companies looking
Speaker 1: for your next Bruce Willis. It's important to note a
Speaker 1: few things. First. Experts say that as they gather more
Speaker 1: data about the trajectory of the asteroid, they will most
Speaker 1: likely be reducing the odds of impact to zero. That's
Speaker 1: usually what happens every time. They're like, the first one,
Speaker 1: we get a little bit. But as we can see
Speaker 1: right now where it's at, we can kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: extrapolate that data to see, okay, what are our chances.
Speaker 1: But but if there's still a chance that the asteroid
Speaker 1: could hit us. There are options on the tablena no
Speaker 1: let it cook, sir, let the asteroid. If the data
Speaker 1: this is from our technical quote. If the data in
Speaker 1: a few months still shows that the asteroid poses a
Speaker 1: hazard to Earth, it will be time for the World
Speaker 1: Space Agencies to consider a deflection mission. NASA demonstrated its
Speaker 1: ability to alter the orbit of an asteroid in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two with a first of its kind experiment in space.
Speaker 1: The mission, called Dart, put a small aircraft on a
Speaker 1: collision course with an ASHTRAI two to four times larger
Speaker 1: than two zero two four yr four that's the name
Speaker 1: of our next president and asteroid, and they were able
Speaker 1: to alter the trajectory like with this like impact. So
Speaker 1: this uh are this asteroid is about forty to ninety
Speaker 1: meters Okay, don't ask me what that is in imperial measurements.
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know. That could have a blast radius
Speaker 1: that could potentially take out a small city. But experts
Speaker 1: are saying but even if those like off earth interventions
Speaker 1: don't work, there would be ample time to evacuate the
Speaker 1: impact zone. Okay, so you know they're saying you said that,
Speaker 1: like Joe Namath telling about the impact. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: want to kiss you. I just want to kiss you, asteroid.
Speaker 1: So when pieces of ship tell you we don't need
Speaker 1: to fund scientific research, remind them that we could get
Speaker 1: armageddon without things like NASA and other space agencies and
Speaker 1: you know science.
Speaker 3: What perfect timing for to find out this information? As
Speaker 3: Elon Musk is like taking over the US and like,
Speaker 3: you know, trying to privatize NASA, somebody who's like again
Speaker 3: whose incompetence is only outmatched by his confidence in himself.
Speaker 2: But he's also trying to take over Mars, right, So
Speaker 2: I think, why is it always Earth that these meteors
Speaker 2: are going to hit But like, why not Marsh?
Speaker 1: They do?
Speaker 3: They hit it Mars and the Moon like that's where
Speaker 3: the moon craters our punch frag. Yeah, the moon gets
Speaker 3: fucking the moon gets its shit rocked all the time.
Speaker 3: But also when the Moon gets is ship rocked, Like
Speaker 3: it just never goes away, Like there's still the footprints
Speaker 3: from the astronauts, like just like they were when they
Speaker 3: left them because there's no atmosphere or wind or anything
Speaker 3: to disturb it. So maybe it doesn't get rocked as
Speaker 3: much as I would have indicated a moment ago, but.
Speaker 1: It's done in the course of its whole career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh the moons. I'm not talking about it, just our
Speaker 1: recorded time, dude.
Speaker 3: That moon's rocking data is pretty pretty high. But also
Speaker 3: Elon Musk and like, those are people who would welcome this,
Speaker 3: Like they because they're not gonna be in the fucking
Speaker 3: city like evacuating people, and they like his whole thing
Speaker 3: is like he wants to repopulate the Earth with his
Speaker 3: own dick, like you know, like that, so like truly strange,
Speaker 3: Doctor Strangelove fucking predicted everything like that.
Speaker 1: It really did. Like that.
Speaker 3: It's a dark comedy that came true unfortunately, but like
Speaker 3: that is a real concern. I do think if this
Speaker 3: administration found out about a planet destroying, you know, asteroid
Speaker 3: that was coming towards Earth, like first of all, just
Speaker 3: ask yourself, Like that would be a good gut check
Speaker 3: for Trump supporters, is like is this really who you
Speaker 3: think would be? Like you find out tomorrow and asteroid's coming,
Speaker 3: are you really gonna feel good? You can be like
Speaker 3: he's the guy to get it. Yeah, you're direct so fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dude who looked directs, Yeah, right exactly because
Speaker 1: I mean it would take a multinational effort. That's a
Speaker 1: different space. Well, we're already The thing is, we're already
Speaker 1: speed like this. This group that convenes is like the Russians, China,
Speaker 1: Us and like the European Space Agency like that. When
Speaker 1: it comes to that shit, we know how to be like,
Speaker 1: all right, bro, we're all on this fucker together, so
Speaker 1: we need to figure out what we're gonna do together
Speaker 1: before you know, the Orange man finds out. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I found it kind of refreshing though to read an
Speaker 1: article normally, like every time, you know, like just these
Speaker 1: like headlines or like nasteroids gonna hit in twenty thirty two,
Speaker 1: But this article in our Technica, because they're people who
Speaker 1: are actively very interested in science and communicating science that
Speaker 1: it's like, well, look, there's this can happen, or this
Speaker 1: can happen, and if it hits, it might only impact
Speaker 1: like maybe like a thirty mile radius and most likely
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna hit the ocean if it were, or
Speaker 1: some remote area based on where all of our population
Speaker 1: centers are. But I liked it because I think the
Speaker 1: headline it was very good. It said, what was the subheadline?
Speaker 1: More data will likely reduce a chance of impact to zero.
Speaker 1: If not, we have options. I'm like, oh great, great,
Speaker 1: we have options.
Speaker 3: Give People Magazine, People dot Com a crack at that headline,
Speaker 3: Like we talked about this lung cancer article from on
Speaker 3: yesterday's trending from people those like lung cancer increasing among
Speaker 3: people who have never smoked. Here's why, why why? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to click through to find out, asshole,
Speaker 3: go fuck yourself, hide the dark heart of our civilization
Speaker 3: behind a clickbait headline. And that is why we love people,
Speaker 3: don't we folks? All right, Well, good great reporting ours
Speaker 3: Technica and Miles.
Speaker 1: Yeah that I didn't I read a thing out loud
Speaker 1: and that it's called podcast reporting. Yeah, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: where the bar is for reporting.
Speaker 3: That is, Like I I remember covering the story where
Speaker 3: they like kind of nudged that asteroid off its course,
Speaker 3: but I didn't really like that's pretty cool that it.
Speaker 3: Like this one, which is a potential, you know, potentially
Speaker 3: catastrophic collision, is like not even as big as the
Speaker 3: one they were able to nudge.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, yeah, that one was huge, huge.
Speaker 2: Well, we can't nudge the unemployment rate.
Speaker 1: Am I right? Over here. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's going to take an asteroid for us
Speaker 3: to do ship to save people, and it's.
Speaker 2: Going to take the metric system.
Speaker 3: Yeah, please, the metrics at like our imperial system. Clashing
Speaker 3: with the metric system has caused so many fuck ups
Speaker 3: in the past.
Speaker 1: Yeah, could you imagine that? Like, dude, we totally biffed that.
Speaker 1: Uh mission, I forget what Yeah? Wait, what is it?
Speaker 2: The it landed on Mars. It was supposed to land
Speaker 2: on Mars and it crashed.
Speaker 3: I think, I think, Yeah, that's the one. So nobody
Speaker 3: died a robot. How NASA lost a spacecraft from a
Speaker 3: metric math mistake. This was back in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, it was in ninety nine.
Speaker 2: That Yeah, it was a while ago.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we've gotten it together since.
Speaker 3: Well, Taya, it's been a pleasure having you. Thank you
Speaker 3: so much for joining. Where can people find you? Follow
Speaker 3: you all that good stuff?
Speaker 2: Sure, go to Entertainingdiversity dot com. Yeah, slash Media if
Speaker 2: you want to see information about the new podcast Caucus
Speaker 2: after the Fall.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And that's like a fictional world about a
Speaker 1: post race war world, correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in this world it takes place in the future,
Speaker 2: the United States is now segregated into race categories.
Speaker 1: Like that season of Survivor. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: that my sister in law was on.
Speaker 3: Really oh wow, oh that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I dropped that nugget all the time on Survivor fans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love like yo. You know my co host was
Speaker 1: on that on that season. On the race episode. Wait, okay,
Speaker 1: so it's a segregated and what happens to people like us?
Speaker 1: Teyah we are?
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to the podcast that there is a group
Speaker 2: who are mixed race, and part of the mission of
Speaker 2: the story includes a main character who I play, a
Speaker 2: producer who is mixed race who's traveling around the country
Speaker 2: to find some important people to help to help end
Speaker 2: the crisis.
Speaker 1: Nice okay, nice, that sounds great. Is there a work
Speaker 1: of media that you've been enjoying? Uh?
Speaker 2: You know, I watch a lot of Key and Peel
Speaker 2: m Okay. I love Kempion not only not only because
Speaker 2: they're really funny guys just as really they're very insightful,
Speaker 2: very very smart, very intellectual, but they're also mixed race.
Speaker 2: And I support anything mixed race, not anything mixed race.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yes, right, yeah, yeah. Some people are
Speaker 1: not doing not not not maintaining the brand like they
Speaker 1: should be on that.
Speaker 2: No, no, and let's see also this is very different.
Speaker 2: But it's called uh, what's it called? We crash games?
Speaker 2: We we crash games. All it's this three D animated
Speaker 2: cars crashing into things. It's just you know, it could
Speaker 2: be anything. It could be a Godzilla or a trailer
Speaker 2: or a thirty ton coil steel that drops on top
Speaker 2: of the car and then you get to see what
Speaker 2: the impact is. Like a Toyota, a Toyota four runner
Speaker 2: will will roll over and get squashed, but a you
Speaker 2: go will just like you know in smither of Reens,
Speaker 2: you know, become dust, you know that that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: So it's it's when I'm bored. It's just rare, but
Speaker 2: it's entertaining.
Speaker 3: Nice sounds great miles. Where can people find you? Is
Speaker 3: there a workimedia you've been enjoying? Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, find me on all the places that have at
Speaker 1: symbols at Miles of Gray. You can also find Jacket
Speaker 1: on the basketball podcast Mountain Jackop Boom, Mad Blust's and
Speaker 1: also find you talking about ninety Day Fiance on four
Speaker 1: to twenty Day Fiance. Let's see a tweet I like
Speaker 1: is from at Underscore Zets tweeted the CIA being overthrown
Speaker 1: by a far right wing government would at least be funny.
Speaker 1: They must feel like they're in a twilight Zone episode
Speaker 1: right now. Kind of strange.
Speaker 3: Wait a second, with the fun amazing. You can find
Speaker 3: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien and on Blue
Speaker 3: Sky at jackob one dot bsky dot Social uh workimedia
Speaker 3: I've been enjoying is just a bluesk from a Nate soulmate,
Speaker 3: m Nate Shyamalan, who tweeted, very funny to me that
Speaker 3: the Fantastic four trailer doesn't show him stretching. Somebody in
Speaker 3: a suit said, don't you dare scare them off with
Speaker 3: that freak shit.
Speaker 1: It's too much.
Speaker 3: That's almost definitely a real note that somebody got. You
Speaker 3: can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're at
Speaker 3: the Daily zeye Geist. On Instagram, We're at daily Zeitgeist
Speaker 3: on Blue Sky. We have a Facebook fanpage and a
Speaker 3: website dailyzeiguys dot com. And you can go to the
Speaker 3: episode wherever you're listening to this and check out the
Speaker 3: description where you will find the footnotes, which is where
Speaker 3: we link off to the information that we talked about
Speaker 3: in today's episode. We also link off to a song
Speaker 3: that we think you might enjoy, Miles, is there a
Speaker 3: song that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna go out on a multi hyphenitz, multi
Speaker 1: platinum selling artist, Winston surf Shirt, who I have not
Speaker 1: heard of until recently. This track is called ice Cream,
Speaker 1: and it's just nice, kind of dreamy pop this person has,
Speaker 1: like you know, it's definitely like hip hop, roots and
Speaker 1: just like other just good. There's just a lot of
Speaker 1: sort of genres coming together. But I like the vocals
Speaker 1: on it. It feels very uplifting. So it's like the
Speaker 1: kind of music you want to put on to kind
Speaker 1: of bring your mood up, especially on a Friday. And
Speaker 1: who doesn't like ice cream except for those who are
Speaker 1: lactose intolerant, But y'all have options too, and Peak and
Speaker 1: we all have options. We all love a bit of
Speaker 1: ice frozen dessert. So check out ice Cream by Winston
Speaker 1: surf Shirt.
Speaker 3: Is there any references in it to the Cuban Lengths
Speaker 3: track ice Cream?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it's hard, it's hard, a little disappointed.
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Speaker 3: That's gonna do it for us this morning and for
Speaker 3: this week.
Speaker 1: We are back on.
Speaker 3: Monday to tell you what was trending over the weekend
Speaker 3: and we will talk to you all then.
Speaker 1: Bye bye,