1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: What's tap It's a lift service. I'm Angela Yee, I'm G. G. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Maguire and I'm stepping in Santiago and we have two 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: very special guests with us. Mr Smarley, Hi, how are you? 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: And who is this that you have here with you? 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Introduce yourself? So is he allowed to speak typically? Now? Okay? 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: So I call him Beta Bitch for really us his name? Alright, 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: Beta Bitch. So let's get into what we're doing today, 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Mrs Marley. So he is considered your sub, okay, so 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: explain to us this whole relationship. Okay. So basically a 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: sub is what a dom control. So I'm a dominatrix 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: dom and short for that, and basically he's there for sessions. 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Whether I want my feet rubbed, whether I want to 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: spank him, tell him what to do, verbal humiliation, things 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: like that. So anything that I wanted the dominant that 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 1: he consents to, it works out. So what's that in here? 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: That's so that's a paddle. So yeah, so this is 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: called a flogger. Remember, yeah, sorry, So this flower was 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: made by somebody in the b D s M community, 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: is custom made, has my name on it, and then 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: like worship on the back. And then I also have 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: a paddle that you can see has been used a 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: lot um and it has reparations because a lot of 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: my things I do is reparations because a lot of 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: my subs are white men. Your clientele is white man. Yes, Okay, 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: so let's start from the beginning, because we are all 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: so curious about this, just the financials of it, right, 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: and then also how you get into this, So talk 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: to us about who Mrs Mirley is and how this 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: even started for you. Okay, So basically, I've always been 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: in the sex work industry. So back in college, I 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: was a stripper. So I did stripping for a while. 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Then I went on to be a sugar baby. Then 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: I moved to New York. I'm originally from North Carolina, 34 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: so I moved to New York for grad school, did fashion. 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: Was in the fashion industry, very very hard, um like 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: jobs back to back to back. It just felt like 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: I was not making any money as an intern, just 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: working in whatever. So one day I literally went online 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: and typed in how to make money online as a woman, 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: just like being sexy. I knew there was webcam and 41 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: ship like that, but then I saw financial domination and 42 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, sounds great, right, I'm like, what is this? 43 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: So it led me to Twitter. So Twitter is the 44 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: main platform for financial domination. Yes, So if you go 45 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter, just typing fandom in the search box, you'll 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: see so many women with so many different pages. So 47 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: I went up there and I was like, is this real? 48 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: Like people are saying reimburse me, send me this money. 49 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: Men are just sending the money not seeing them or 50 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: anything like that. And then one thing I noticed was 51 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: there was no like when I first started three years ago, 52 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: there were no black women in the tag, Like I 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: didn't see any other black women. So I'm like, how's 54 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: this gonna work for me? And I had no men 55 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: who or nothing. I just dove right into it. And 56 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: I want to say, in the first two weeks, I 57 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: had went out to lunch spent like fifty dollars. I 58 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: took a picture of receipt and posted it on Twitter, 59 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: like just spent fifty dollars. Reimbursed me and somebody randomly 60 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: send fifty dollars. That's when I was like, Yo, this 61 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: is real. Hashtag fin dom when you post that or yeah, 62 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: so there's like different tags for a friend. Yeah, different. 63 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: That's like findom um the subs that, yes, we call 64 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: them pay pigs, so you can put finn Dom pay 65 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: pig black doms instead of pay pay pi. Yeah. So yeah, 66 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: that's basically how they find you on Twitter. Okay, now 67 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: this is about reparations for you also, so talk about that. 68 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: So my thing is like with my slubs, I always 69 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: try to make it a teaching moment or some type 70 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: of moment of like why are you worshiping me? Because 71 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: a lot of black men will come to black doms 72 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: and like see us as a fetish. But I try 73 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: to take myself away from that. I'm like, Okay, you 74 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: can sit here all day and tell me I'm beautiful, 75 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: you like my chocolate skin and all those things, but 76 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: what are you really doing for black women in your 77 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: life to provide for them and to support them. So 78 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: that's why I do something called reparations Play, and that 79 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: came really big into play last summer when you know, 80 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: we had all the marsh and in the street and 81 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: a lot of white people have white guilt and we're 82 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: donating money to black organizations and stuff. So I was like, 83 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm about to step up and you're gonna pay me 84 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: as a black woman and just send the money. No 85 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: reason why. I just send me the money because I 86 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: deserve it. So that's basically how I got into that. 87 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: What's the most you've ever made in a month? It 88 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: depends because I get random sins and then I get sessions. 89 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: So I want to say, the most I've ever made 90 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: in a month from Finndom was around tin k. Yeah 91 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: that's not bad, all right, So now talk to us 92 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: about who this uh, this stub is here with you today. 93 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: So this is Beto Bitch. So Beto Bitch. I met 94 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: him through um because I throw events in the city 95 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: like called god Is Brunch. So basically this is a 96 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: brunch for black women that want to learn how to 97 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: do what I do, be dominant anything of that. Since 98 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: we come together, we drink, we have Mamosa's, we do 99 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: catering like they learn and stuff, and then we have 100 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: these volunteer subs, so like we'll get maybe six white 101 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: men or whatever or six men in general and they 102 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: get to practice on them. So I met him through that, 103 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 1: and then we had our first session together this past Thursday. Yeah. Yeah, 104 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: so I used him at the class. This is kind 105 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: of the honor. Yeah, So I used him like two 106 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: months ago at a class and then now we get 107 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: more into our dom sub dynamic. Now from my understanding, 108 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: right for a dime, you don't sleep with the subs. 109 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: There's no type of So explain that part of it, 110 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: just so people know, because I think sometimes people think, oh, 111 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: this is like a sex, but explain that part of it. Yeah, 112 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: so that is the common misconception, like they see us 113 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: and like, oh, are you having sex with him or whatever? No, 114 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: So basically it's all most of it is psychological, and 115 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: it's about how can the subserve me? Not how mind 116 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: serving the sub? Right? So, um, my subs never see 117 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: me naked. Um, I'll wear little corsets and stuff like this. 118 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Even if I do face smothering where I sit on 119 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: their face and smother them like till they tell me 120 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: they can't breathe, I still do it fully clothed like that. Sure, 121 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: Beta bitch loves it. He's trying to be very very 122 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: humble right now, but yeah he loves it. Um, we 123 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: just did in our last session Thursday. So but he 124 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: has limits on it. Two. So your subs can have 125 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: like different limits and it's all about just making sure 126 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: everything is consensual. Now can we speak to Beta Bitch 127 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: for a second orso, okay, ladies, I know we have 128 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: some questions. So Beta Bitch, what are some things that 129 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: you uh as for your dom? Mr? Smarley, what are 130 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: some things that you like to do. So I'm now, 131 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm not into findom. I'm into fem femdom because I'm 132 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: more of an alpha guy in real life, so this 133 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: is something very different. I'm kind of new to it. 134 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: So some of the things we did, um, you know, 135 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: she's very sexy feet and legs and asked and that 136 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: was the majority of our session, was me worshiping her 137 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: and listening to her commands. Can you show us them? 138 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: It's up to her, that's permission. So basically what he 139 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: was saying was like, he's not into fendom, but femdom. 140 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: So femdom is female lad domination. So he's more so 141 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: into the physical of the uh smothering and the foot 142 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: worship and the spanking. Whereas the men that you have 143 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: that are into fendom, they're just into sending the money. 144 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: I would never meet them in person. They're all over 145 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: the world kind of like that. Yeah, so that's what 146 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: I got into that I got into that first, and 147 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: then I got an interest in this, So that clarified 148 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: something to me because I've read that about you, about Fendom, 149 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: so I was confused as to how he was here 150 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: with us today. If you guys never really meat. But 151 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: this is a whole difference. Yeah. So you have some 152 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: women that strictly just do financial domination, some that strictly 153 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: just do female lader domination, and then you have women 154 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: like me that want to do both. So all right, 155 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: so we're gonna sit back and you invade a bit. 156 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: You have your session. Okay, perfect down, kiss my feet. 157 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: Tell me how much you love kissing my feet? Kissing 158 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: how much? Louder? Tell me how much you love my feet? 159 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: Your feet how much? How much more than a lot? 160 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: They're silky and sexy? I know, good boy. Now I 161 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: rubbed my feet, and don't stop until I tell you 162 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: to say, I'm your little bit, Mr s Marley, A 163 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: little bit louder, I'm your little bit. Mrs say it 164 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: like you mean it. I'm your little bit. Mr s Marley. 165 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: Head down, And that's a little creepy of that. Right, 166 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm only allow to do that with you. Um, so 167 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: he is not my own sub right, so like there's 168 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: different types of relationships. There are subs that I'll do 169 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: sessions with, and then there are subs out own. As 170 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: we still have this new relationship format, it's up to 171 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: me to decide and him also if he wants to 172 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: be owned by me. So right now we're kind of 173 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: building that. The thing with the own sub is it's 174 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: more like seven worship and personally for me, M yeah, 175 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: And I consider myself a professional dominatrix. So you have 176 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: pro dominatrix and you have lifestyle doms. The lifestyle doms 177 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: are the ones you see like on TV they have 178 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: the sub living in cages, under beds and seven around them. 179 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: Whereas me is like, I like to do it professionally. 180 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: I like to have set up sessions. I still like 181 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: to have my regular life, Like it's not something that 182 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm living seven. So like something like that, y'all aren't 183 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: even asking no questions first, I listen, I'm here for it. 184 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm really just paying attention. Mistress McGuire 185 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: loading yeah, looking at the paddle. So the paddle is 186 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: like it's used for impact play. So impact play is 187 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: anything involving where you're striking. This s up whether it's 188 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: on the butt, back of the legs. There's certain areas 189 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: you have to be safe for whatever. Um, but yeah, 190 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: so that's what it's used for. Beta done that yet, 191 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah we have okay. Yeah, is there a safety word ever? Yeah? 192 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: So safe word can be anything. The most common one 193 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: in kink is the stoplight. So red means completely stop, 194 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: yellow means slow down, and green's like I'm good. So 195 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: he could either use a stoplight or we can say 196 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: in the beginning, like my safe word is pineapple. So 197 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: if I hear pineapples to the sa pineapples. Yeah, so 198 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: he just kind of has to stay there because he's 199 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: been under your foot this whole time. Yeah, so he 200 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: stays there until Okay. Yeah, you guys just started last week. 201 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: So what are some other things that you've done. You've 202 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: done the paddle, You've done Have you done the flogging? Yeah, 203 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: so I've done flogging. Um. I actually just upload a 204 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: video to my Twitter from our session last night. Um, 205 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: so I did flogging. I did foot worship, um, we 206 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: did face smother man. We did some calling response like 207 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: I just did right then, like tell me these things 208 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: say this back to me. There were some punishments in there. 209 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: What's the punishment. So, for instance, funny thing, so during 210 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: the session last week, he's rubbing my feet and then 211 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't know where, he says, my dick just got hard, 212 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: and I got piste off because I don't want I 213 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: don't want to hear that. So basically I just got 214 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: up and just started just whipping his ass like with 215 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: the paddle was just like going in. But still with that, 216 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: I was looking at his pain levels and his body movement. 217 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: So it's just all about, Yes, it's about having fun 218 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: and you know, doing the punishment things of that nature, 219 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: but you still have to realize, like they're human too, 220 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: so like you know, you don't want yeah, and people's 221 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: pain tolerance is different, like for him, he's into light impact, 222 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: so nothing too crazy. But then I have some stubs 223 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: that like me kicking them in the balls, They liked 224 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: me stepping on their balls with heels, stepping on their 225 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: chest and heells. So like, you know, pain levels they differ. 226 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: What about urinating on people? Have you done that? So 227 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: I've done that one time, So it's not really my 228 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: big big thing. Um No, it's just like I had 229 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: to break character. Yeah, So it's not like it's not 230 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: my big big thing. But the crazy thing is it's 231 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: called toilet play in media Sam, and that's the most 232 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: requested one. I mean, like subs will pay top dollar 233 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: for that. Really, yeah yeah, somebody asked that. Yeah, so 234 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: you have them. What about shipping on someone that's the 235 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: one that they pay top dollar for? Really? Have you 236 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: already done that? No? You can't, can't. I don't think 237 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: I can mentally bring myself. It's just I don't know, 238 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: even on Taco Tuesday, you know what, I don't know. 239 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: Maybe no top dollar, I mean it, yeah, but it's 240 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: like to me sometimes it's not even about the money. 241 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: It's about like how am I gonna feel after I 242 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: do this? Like am I being true to my brand 243 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: my business? While I like person looks like that as 244 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: bad as you shooting on him, It's like it's not 245 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: like he shopping on you. You know what I'm saying. 246 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: For me, it's the whole Like it's the operation for 247 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: that too, Like you have to eat certain stuff to 248 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: even get there, like to that point, Like I don't know. 249 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 1: I just I've had a lot of stubs asked for it. 250 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it's something I'll do in the distant distance. How 251 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: you make yourself because three years agoing this, you're not 252 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: really like a seasoned professional. So maybe as time goes 253 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: by you'll get yeah, yeah, Well what are some other 254 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: things that you don't do? There's some subs that want 255 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: you to do, like black mail. I don't do black 256 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: mail only because I feel like that can go. Like 257 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: they'll give you their personal information, like their social Security number, address, 258 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: like facts about their family, personal like a lot of 259 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: personal ship, and they'll basically be like blackmail me. Like 260 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, y'all don't know about that one. But 261 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: besides that, it's not a lot that I won't do. 262 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: I just don't like to do any of the toilet 263 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: play and like blackmailing. Yeah, all right, can we talk 264 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: to data bitch now? Alright? Shore, how even get that right? 265 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: Have a seat? So yes? So Beta bitch um, how 266 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: did you get into this? That's a good question. Uh. 267 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: I was married for ten years, got divorced, and I 268 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: started dating a black girl who was very dominant, and 269 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: she made me more and more submissive over time. Uh, 270 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: And it's something that we worked into our sex lives 271 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: and it was different. Are you still with her? No? Okay? 272 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: So what happened with that. Uh, she wanted to go 273 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: a little too far and some things like what she 274 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: wanted to bring someone else into my apartment and have 275 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: me staying there and watch her have sex with them. 276 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: And that was right that I've actually seen that on 277 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: that show, giggelo. Right. So in that situation, was it 278 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: the fact that you all were dating that you didn't 279 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: want that to happen or you just couldn't take it 280 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: in general? I just didn't want to be in that 281 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: situation in general. So you broke it over her, correct, 282 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: all right? And so then you met Mrs Mirley. So 283 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: this is pretty new for you. How how does it 284 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: feel so far? And it's the first time you've done 285 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: this as far as outside of your relationship? Well, I 286 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: did it with someone else. I did it online and 287 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: then Mr Smarley would be the third in the last 288 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: six months maybe, And this is the second time we've 289 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: found this. Can you have more than one time at 290 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: a time? Can? I? Yeah? Or is it just one 291 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: that you're loyal to at a time? I guess one 292 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: at a time. What are some things that you haven't 293 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: done yet with Mrs Marley that you want to try 294 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: that I want to try. I'm not sure yet, Mrs Merley, 295 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: How do we take this to the next level? For me, 296 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: it just really depends on like the loyalty, how we 297 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: build it up, the trust, like how good is he 298 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: at like following commands and you know, serving me and 299 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: things of that nature. Because in my three years, I've 300 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: had a lot of subs. I've had subs that I've 301 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: known for years. I have subs that served me one 302 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: time and I was over there them. Um, I've had 303 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: subs maybe two or three times and I was over 304 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: them or it just naturally just you know, just quit. 305 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: So think about this industry, is that when a lot 306 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: of girls enter because I teach also, so I mentor 307 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: a lot of women on this when they enter and 308 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: try to tell them, don't get attached. Because the thing 309 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: about b d s M is people can come in 310 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: real strong and ready to do it, and then something 311 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: could happen in their personal life or just mentally where 312 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: they're like I need a break, like I can't do 313 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: this no more. I can't like I don't feel like 314 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: get whipped for like you know, I don't feel like 315 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: doing this heavy stuff. And they can just ghost. It's 316 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: a lot of ghosting that goes on this industry unfortunately. 317 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: So when I started out and I would get ghosted 318 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: or things will happen, I would feel kind of bad, 319 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: like them, Am I doing this wrong? But then I 320 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: learned over time it's not you. Sometimes it's them. Sometimes 321 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: they cannot take it no more, or they might A 322 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: lot of them come back or relapse like we call 323 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: it so on fin DOMA call it relapse. So I've 324 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: had a sub before it's spend three thousand and one 325 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: week and he'll leave like I'm done, I'm broke, and 326 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: then come back a month later and relapse and start 327 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: sending again. So the stimulus checks hit the pandemic. Then 328 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: the pandemic has been great, surprisingly, so I quit my 329 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: in the five January two months before down. So my 330 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: nine and five was like getting in the way my 331 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: dome work. I was making way more in a session 332 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: than I wasn't like a two weeks paycheck and my job. 333 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: So I quit. And then I saw the pandemic and 334 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship, what a I'm gonna do 335 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: Because most of my work was traveling and teaching like 336 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: these classes, and I'm like, how I'm gonna do that now? 337 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: So then I started my Patreon online um the Sex Academy, 338 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: and I offered my courses at five dollars a month, 339 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: and that took off because people were like most people 340 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: are bored in the house, want to learn something. Yeah, 341 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: But then over time they started actually like I would 342 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: get so many reviews of you know, I got a sub, 343 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: Now I have somebody paying this, paying that, Like this 344 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: is crazy. I never thought this would work for me. 345 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: Like I have people that started off not knowing anything 346 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: and they're like very good doms now. And then like 347 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: I had subs that want to serve virtually online. So 348 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: like some subs they couldn't take not seeing nobody, so 349 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: they're like, look, if all I can do is online 350 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna do that. So I was like 351 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: getting paid for Skype sessions. I would do ignore sessions 352 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: where you just sit on Skype and you watch TV 353 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: and the sub just wants to like beg you to 354 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: talk to them and you just can't do that. You're 355 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: just yeah, ignore somebody. Yeah. So it's a lot of 356 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: little sessions. It's a lot of little sessions like that. 357 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: There's subs that will pay you just to watch you 358 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: eat on camera. I mean to rub your feet on. 359 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: It's so many things you can do. I used to 360 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: do sessions in a bonnet and nightclothes, not even dressed up, 361 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: no makeup, nothing, and stuff will lose their mind like 362 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, min stressed and would be like, yeah, 363 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: has ever been in a situation that felt dangerous? No? 364 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: So luckily from most of my uh sessions, especially if 365 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: their first timers or I'm just getting into seeing them 366 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: out either a higher actual security or be bring a 367 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: friend with me or somebody that I know within the community. Um. 368 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: And I do that for a while until I feel 369 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: like I can really establish something and then most of 370 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: the time I ran out dungeons that are like safe. 371 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: So there's like, so, how does this affect your personal 372 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: life as far as dating is concerned, because you only 373 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: do it professionally. So if you're dating, then how do 374 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: guys respond to your professional work. So I'm dating somebody 375 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: right now, a leo, oh god. Um, and he's very 376 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: like he takes on very well to it. So he's 377 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: always asked me what I'm doing. He's been to a 378 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: couple of my events. I'm really transparent on him and 379 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: what the job is because the thing is transparency. A 380 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: lot of people here dominatrics and they think that was that. Yeah, 381 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: so you really have to like tell them what it is. 382 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: When I used to just like date date because this 383 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: person I've just been dating solely. But when I used 384 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: to go on like hinge a little dates like that, 385 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: like I would tell them I'm a dominatrix, so I 386 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: like to be a front. So I'm like, they're gonna 387 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: find out some way whatever, So I like to be 388 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: a front, and I would tell them it's either a 389 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: they want to learn, which I'm not about to teach 390 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: on the date I'm not going to do that, or 391 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: be They're like, you're not doing that to me, and 392 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you didn't pay a deposit, so of 393 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: course I'm not gonna do it to you. So so 394 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: it's like different responses. I will say, because I like 395 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: I date black men, that it's a little harder to 396 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: explain it to them what it is. Some of them 397 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: like that's weird or whatever. But when I explained and 398 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: they see like the things I did, like a sugar 399 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: baby situation, or do they think that there might be 400 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: sex involved and you're just not telling them that. I 401 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: think they think so many different things I think they 402 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: think it's sugar baby, they think it might be sex, 403 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: they think it might be weird ship, as they like 404 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: to call it. So it's me really just being transparent. 405 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: But also I'm not gonna sit here and try to 406 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: convince you that I'm not, especially if you're just like 407 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: real life relationships, you like to be dominated. Yeah. So, UM, 408 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: I concern myself a switch. So in my personal vanilla 409 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: relationships is what we call them, um submissive. So yeah, 410 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: so I don't like like with my men that I date, 411 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't like them to be like submentsive. Like I 412 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: still might be in control in the sense of like 413 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: telling them how I want my pussy a or telling 414 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: them how I want things done, but I'm not going 415 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: to have them on a leash. I'm not gonna be 416 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: whipping them. I'm not gonna know. Now, you also had 417 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: this moment that went viral where you were walking somebody 418 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: on a leash. Yeah, across the campus. So talk to 419 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: us about that. Yeah. So that was twenty nineteen. I 420 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: was just really getting into filmdom, um, and it was 421 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: my homecoming and my HBCU North Carolina Central, and um, 422 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: whenever I travel, I try to put an ad out 423 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: or whatever on Twitter like I'm traveling. If you want 424 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: to book me, book me, because every opportunity's opportunity. And 425 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: so I went and the subreach out. He was an 426 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: older white man. He was like, I want to be 427 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: publicly humiliated. I was like, I can't bring my leash 428 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: and walk you on my campus. And at first I 429 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: thought he's gonna be like, no, that's a bit much 430 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: because that's like hundreds of thousands of people out there 431 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: during home coming. And he was with it, like literally, 432 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: I wasn'tupposed to walk him to four pm. He was 433 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: waiting on campus for me since like ten am that day. 434 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: He was ready. Yeah, so we got out there. I'm 435 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I was nervous. So I'm like, yo, 436 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: either I wasn't nervous about people recording or I don't 437 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: care about other people's opinions. For me, it was like 438 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: it's the police. Don't stop us, like I know, but 439 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: it's just like you never know, like you know, people 440 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: try to do stuff and it's campus police. You know, 441 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: they take their jobs. Yeah, so I got out here. Yeah, 442 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: So I got out there and I walked him on 443 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: a leash, and the video that went viral. I didn't 444 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: even know it was being taken. So in the video, 445 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm posing for my best friend. It's gonna picture of me. 446 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: I got to sleep drunk, wake up the next day 447 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: on Twitter and my ship was like blowing up and 448 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my God, got you a lot 449 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: of clients. Yeah, it did. It did so many people 450 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: after that wanted to be walked on a leash and 451 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: wanted to like just be publicly humiliated. So I was like, 452 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: they didn't tell you down for public humiliation. No, I 453 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: think it depends on the sand because like my God's Brunch, 454 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: we had maybe like a hundred women there, but it 455 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: was more of a private event, you know. So like 456 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: some stubs are okay with that, and I'm thinking, like, 457 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: you know, wear the mask. But then I have some 458 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: stuffs that don't give a funk. They're just like walking 459 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: in the middle of Wall Street. I don't need no masks, Like, 460 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: let's just do it. So yeah, that Mrs. Rather. We 461 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: talked about your personal life data bit what about you? 462 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: Are you dating anybody? Seriously? Not right now now? So 463 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: if you are, does that mean this relationship is over? 464 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: Potentially that happens a lot in the industry, Like you'll 465 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: get subs that will end up dating somebody seriously, and 466 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, of course, if they're being transparent with their partners, 467 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: their partner might be like, I don't want you to 468 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: do this or whatever, and then they'll come to me 469 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: and say that, and I'm fine with it, Like it 470 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: is not my place to invade on your personal life 471 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: because I wouldn't want the same invad on mine yet. 472 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: So like if I had a sub and he was 473 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: getting in the way of my relationship or something like that, 474 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's it, like you know sober? Yeah, 475 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: So what about are you honest? Betabit? When you when 476 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: you date a woman, like with the things that you 477 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: like and if you date a woman, do you want 478 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: her to still dominate you? Um, that's interesting. No, I've 479 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: never done that with the relationship I've been in now, 480 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: except for the black women you date it the first 481 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: time that was the only time that has happened. So 482 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: do you think you only like black women now or 483 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: what's going on with that? No? But I think that 484 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: somehow I do have a fetish towards black women. So 485 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: I think that that being submissive is something that's not 486 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: in my normal everyday life from a professional and I'm 487 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: an alpha in real life, and this is something that's 488 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: very different, which is why I don't want to do 489 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: it publicly private least. Fine, Um, is it something you 490 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: discussed with your friends there? Does anybody else knows? It's 491 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: a private thing for you? Yeah, that's something we talked about. 492 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: We're drinking beers. It's just like a community of subs 493 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: that talk to each other. We don't know that we 494 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: think that the doms like we're like, there probably is, 495 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: but then again, a lot of people, a lot of 496 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: subs don't want to want other people to know there's abmissive. 497 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: So like, as doms, we talk about subs because we 498 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: have to do it for safety reasons, Like if I 499 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: met up with a sub and he made me feel 500 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: uncomfortable or whatever, I'm going to tell the other domes like, look, 501 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: don't book him. Or if he comes in the inbox, 502 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: he's always a time wheret to say he's gonna book 503 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: in every book. We talk about that stuff. So we 504 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: have something called dom black List, and I only work 505 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: with black doms, so that's something we share. You know, 506 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: venus Cu was up here, Venus who told us about 507 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: the flogger. Yeah, I know Venus, there's jet Set and Jasmine. 508 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: There's so many different black doms out there that we 509 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: come together and we like create community because there's not 510 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: a lot of spaces for us out there. I mean 511 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: when I first started out, I try to get advice 512 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: from white doms on Twitter and they would block me 513 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: and I's telling me to go learn on my own day. Yeah, 514 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: they were rude. They were very rude. So it's like 515 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: That's why I created these spaces for black women because 516 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want nobody else to go through that, 517 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: like at all. Now beat a bit so so far, 518 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: you guys have done the smothering, You've done the flogging, 519 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: the paddling. What else can you show us today? Um? 520 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: I can show some flogging. Okay, Yeah, let's see he 521 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: likes it, Like, yeah, it's not he's not gonna feel 522 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: it as much so because he has on jeans, so 523 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be good. It'll just be a little 524 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: example do what you gotta do. So I'm gonna have 525 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: to down and see how this goes. It's the commands. 526 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: EI think you could do this? Yeah, you know, I'm 527 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: basically with flogging is all in the swing? Okay, so um, 528 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: what I have to do is usually when they do 529 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: this there naked or in just underwear, and so i'd 530 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: actually is actual get them started like letting letting norm 531 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: Carmen saw his brushes over there and like I said, 532 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: it will be on their bare backs and they'll feel that. 533 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: And there's different ways for you. You can certainly just 534 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: take it it like this and it or you can 535 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: take it and it's not only risk or your dominant 536 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: hand and you swing like this, and sometimes I'll take 537 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: it and I'll go like that's all right, I'll come 538 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: man out, come up. So's just what I'm feeling. I 539 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: feel like that's not really hard, No it's not, but 540 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: this is heapy. So some fockers are heavy, some aren't. 541 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: Um way on this makes this really heavy. So I 542 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: haindly used to this one I love. So that's basically 543 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: it with the flocker. So it's all about swinging with 544 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: at risk. Yeah, and when they're dating, is the naked 545 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: is mark because you can see the marks it makes, 546 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: especially on white skin and all that stuff, so you 547 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: can you you have them get naked, you have them 548 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: get naked. You don't ever get naked, but they do 549 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: get naked for me making them get naked. It's still 550 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: a part of like the humiliation for me and all 551 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: that stuff for you. And like sometimes a lot of 552 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: stubs like what we call sph so small penis humiliations. 553 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: I've seen that before. So like I've seen that before. 554 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: So now ideas enough. This happened on lip service way 555 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: back when I was that serious. So she had a 556 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: little stick and she was beating his balls at the 557 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: stick and then she had like a news that she 558 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: tied his balls up. Yeah, tight and swollen. So I'll 559 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: get like a lot of stubs that just want me 560 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: to himiliate them on Skype, like they're gonna skype show 561 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: their penis and I'll be like on your balls, keeling 562 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: like I just be going in. Guys do that on 563 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: only fans. Yeah, back in the day when I was 564 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: a stripper of this one client, we all the girls 565 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: knew when when he came in, we knew what was 566 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: gonna happen, Like we were gonna stop on his balls 567 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: with our shoe. We were gonna put near him and 568 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: do it really hard like we sometimes we wouldn't be 569 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: in the mood and be like, oh you go do it, Yeah, 570 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: you know what's crazy is I actually have a friend 571 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: that I've had for like years and years and years 572 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: from the strip club back when I first started dancing 573 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: that it has begged me for years to be his 574 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: dumb and I'll just be like, I don't know what 575 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: ye're thinking. Now the club, I'm thinking it's pretty easy 576 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: start off. You can do the light stuff, you can 577 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: do the hardcore stuff. I'm somewhere like in the middle. 578 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: We've actually I told this story a few times and 579 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: I spoke about it on Beyond the Pole. But um, 580 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: he is the same guy that's wallowed my pay, um 581 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: the shot to my urine at the table at the 582 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: strip club. It's the same guy. And yeah, so we 583 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: kind of already like yeah, it was so so long ago, 584 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: but we've remained um through social media, we've remained in contact, 585 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: and we've continued to be friends. I mean, this was 586 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: twenty years ago and we remained friends through social media 587 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: all of this time, and like on the regular basis, 588 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: He's like, I would love for you to be my mistress, 589 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: so you might do that. You're learning from mistress Miley 590 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: get that tribute too, So like tribute is what like 591 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: I require a tribute just for subs to talk to me. 592 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: So like when they come in my inbox like a 593 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: goddess or whatever, I'll send my cash up. Like minimum 594 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: to just even speak to me. It is fifty dollars 595 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: to start there, because if you if they can spend 596 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: that fifty dollars, most likely they're going to spend more. 597 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: You'll know, who's not a time waster from that, Like 598 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: it seems like a small amount, but it's like, okay, 599 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: they're standing that just for say so it's like I 600 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: know I can get more from them. Yeah yeah, he does. 601 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: He do small penis humiliation. So I have enough small 602 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: pence simulation with Beta Bitch. So like there's different kinks 603 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: and fetishes that we outline that we like to do 604 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: um and that's usually the ones we stick to. So 605 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: usually when I sub books me, I have like a 606 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: long list of like what I do, what I don't do, UM, 607 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: what I absolutely want to do. So hard and soft 608 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: limits basically, so hard limits is like no, hard limits 609 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: is you're not shipping on a body? Yeah no, I'm 610 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: not not not yet. Self limits are maybe it's negotiable, Yeah, okay, 611 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: you know what is your family thing? Do they because 612 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: obviously they know now. Yeah. Um, so my family is 613 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: very supportive. So when I back in April, I had 614 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: a New York time on feeture and my dad was 615 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: running around getting like newspapers. He was posting on his Facebook, 616 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: so everybody my family knows. One time, one of my 617 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: floggers accidentally got sent to my parents house because I 618 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: had on my Amazon address thing and I heard my mom. 619 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: I was like, something from work came for me today. 620 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: She was like, Oh, we already took it out of 621 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: box and we was using it. I was like, oh my, 622 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, So they're very open about it. Families open. 623 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: My friends like they've always known I've been a friend 624 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: that was always doing the crazy ship. So they're like, 625 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: they helped me on my events. My best friend is 626 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: my assistant. So it's like it just works out. Yeah, 627 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: that bative bitch for you. How does it feel having 628 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: like Mr Smiley, she's pretty much a celebrity when it 629 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: comes to this dome world? Yes, what's the what's the question? 630 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: Was like, I mean she's that kind of a celebrity 631 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: Dome So is that how you found her? And how 632 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: does that fail to know that you have like one 633 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: of the top Black. Yes, it feels good. Was you 634 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: know the first session. We took a while for us 635 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: to get together and over a month, so there's a 636 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: lot of anticipation. Then she lived up to all expectations 637 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: and apparently she she likes me too, because yeah, what 638 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: type of work do you do? I know you said 639 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: during Alpha Male, but what happen? Rather not talking about that? 640 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: Is it like finance? I'd rather not discuss that, Okay, 641 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: I understand. Yeah, A lot of subs are so like 642 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: I've had subs range from like CEO's Wall streetment. I 643 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: have a sub that's in the NFL. Like, it's like 644 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: different things. So it's like me, I recognize my privilege 645 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: and being out because even a lot of doms cannot 646 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: do this, Like they will not sit here with their 647 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: face out nothing. A lot of them are still not 648 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: in the fibers. I mean even the women I teach 649 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: our lawyers, teachers, nurses, doctors. So it's like I'm able 650 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: to just be out like this, which is why I 651 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: love what I do too. But I like, I realized 652 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people can't wow NFL players. What about 653 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: like rappers. I've not had a rapper yet yet, but yeah, 654 00:30:54,760 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: so they live fay. So that's what it is. A 655 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: lot of rappers watch lip service, so you might get 656 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: what about women? So I've had a couple of women. 657 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: I've had black women actually reach out. And the thing 658 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: with me, when I do sessions with black women, I'm 659 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: more gentle. I can't be like humiliating to them unless 660 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: they really wanted, like I might call them a bit 661 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: or something. They asked for that during session, but as 662 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: in me like stepping on them and all that stuff, 663 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm more sensual with them, like I whipped them 664 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: more or centrally. I've even done couples before where I'll 665 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: go in and I'll teach the man how to dominate 666 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: or I'll do both of them together. Um, but I 667 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: do get a lot of women requests. What about black men? 668 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: I want to say, in my three year career, I 669 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: probably have four black men and they're all only into 670 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: the same thing with worships. That's it. They don't want 671 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: to know. They might be a little bit into face 672 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: sitting a little bit, but they're not into being whipped. Um, 673 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: they're not into pegging. They're not into that at all. 674 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: They're not into So you dog do a lot of pegging. Yeah, yeah, 675 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: like that, did you do it with them? Snoo? Oh 676 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: my god? What hell is that? It is very handy. 677 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: But if you need a girl, it's yours. Oh my gosh. Yeah, 678 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just walk around with this, but like yours 679 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, no, they would if I even just 680 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: take a picture of this, if I just had a 681 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: picture of this and put it on Twitter, my de Yeah. 682 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, I've done pegging before. Pegging is fine, I 683 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: want to do that. It's a lot mentally when you 684 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: first have you done it before? Ever? Know? When you 685 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: first do it's a lot mentally because like you got 686 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: to really make sure that person is clean. Ship. I 687 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: had to literally, Yeah, I had a stub before. I've 688 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: had a stub before that was not clean and I 689 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: had to kick him out, Like I don't play that 690 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: because I tell you, Yeah, that's why I do everything 691 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: with gloves and all that ship whatever. But it was Yeah, 692 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: I'm very strict on that. My protocol strict. It's like 693 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: one of my favorite types of points and wash. Yeah, 694 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: well baby, do you watch porn selectively? I guess, like 695 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: what kind of porn do you watch? You know? I 696 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: actually don't. It's more like on Twitter now when that's 697 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: kind of how I found her. Um, I really, you know, 698 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm not really into porn, it's real life stuff. Do 699 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: you think that you can see yourself ever in a 700 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: relationship with Mrs Marley? Well, it's going so well so far. 701 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. She's like like, we're gonna keep this 702 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: business is business, okay. But you just go back to 703 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: something you said before about the subs. You know, when 704 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: I when I was at that brunch, you know, the 705 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: subs do not interact. I cannot see myself interacting with 706 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 1: any of these other subs. I think I'm a little different, 707 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: but I think, you know, there's probably a lot of 708 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: other subs like me. But we definitely would never want 709 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: to communicate with each other. And it's very more of 710 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: a private thing. Like I said, it started as a 711 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: sexual thing with a girlfriend and and you know it's 712 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: that's more the way I am. Do you evern orgasm 713 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: from these sessions? Uh? Well we've only had one and 714 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm not a word gusting now, so no. Over to 715 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: his dick was hard from the feet rubb and how 716 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: to get him together real quick. So but you can 717 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: see yourself. Did you think about it later and like masturbate. Sure, 718 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: that's not the point right for you. For the point 719 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: for me is that it's something very different than my 720 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: normal life. You know. Yeah, women I date, I would 721 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: never you know, that's that's separate and this is different. 722 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 1: So like I said, I was married for a while 723 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: and it's very vanilla and and different. Um, so this 724 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: is different for me. So MRSS Marty and your from 725 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: your experience, most of them men that our subs are 726 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: normally like businessmen or like high ranking Yeah, orthodox Jewish. 727 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: I heard that from one of the dominatus is before. 728 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: She said that a lot of her clients tell's Orthodox 729 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: Jewish men. So I've had one, just one. Um, I 730 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: don't really get a lot of them or whatever. A 731 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: lot of the subs I get are like CEO types, 732 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: Wall Street types. I've had some college boys, like nine 733 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: year old boys, but usually then like they're very braddy. 734 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: So there's braddy subs too. There's subs that want my 735 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: attention all the time. And if I'm not replying mistress, mistress, 736 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: question mark, question mark, and I'm like, I'm gonna block you. 737 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: And I love that, right, but my unblocked fee is like, 738 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, you have to pay to be unblocked. But 739 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: it's like, like, so basically I love to deal more 740 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: with the older subs, Like I'm twenty seven. I like 741 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: to deal more with the older ones. The younger ones. Yeah, 742 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: like some of the younger ones don't know the lines. 743 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: Like when I get young subs, they'll be like, am 744 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: I gonna be able to run my dick in front 745 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: of you? Am I gonna be able to come? I'm 746 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: gonna be like it's just so many things where just 747 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: like you didn't read anything about what I am, or 748 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: who I do know or what I do. So it's 749 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: like I don't really like the younger ones. I'll take 750 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: their money. Like fan domon online, I like to do 751 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: Skype for them, but meeting them in person. Mr. Smarley, 752 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm only twenty two. I have a very deep boys. 753 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: So is it more financially is it better like meeting 754 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: in person when it comes to rates for me, I 755 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: want to say it can be a mix of both, 756 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: depending on what the session is. But I want to 757 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: stay online is better and we're online, I can schedule better. 758 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: So in person, I'm not doing four sessions in the day, 759 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: the most I've ever done in the day is two sessions, 760 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: but online I can do a ten o'clock, eleven o'clock, 761 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: twelve o'clock, like every hour. I could be doing something 762 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: from the comfort my bed, just sitting there and I 763 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: can raise my rates. I can do different things, like 764 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: I can dominate on only fans. There's like so many 765 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: different websites. There's night for where you can do phone 766 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: sex operation as a dominatrix and just humiliate people on 767 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: the phone or just text and get money. Just alright, 768 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: show us what like what this phone humiliation is. Alright, 769 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: so on night For the different categories, there's one called 770 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: Mistresses at Home and then there's one where you can 771 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: do humiliation. So they'll call me or whatever. You'll be like, 772 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: you have a call from night For. They'll introduce themselves 773 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: and they'll come on. They'll be like they'll be sounding 774 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: like real nervously, like hi mistress, and I'll be like, hey, bitch, 775 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: Like I'll just be talking to them. I'll be cooking breakfast, 776 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: just doing something and I'm like, why are you calling me? 777 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: And they'll say because they'll even they'll just go into 778 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: it like I'm a sissy bitch that you know I 779 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: have a small dick, and I will never be able 780 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: to pleasure women. And I just really want to be humiliated. 781 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: And I'll just go in like your dick is small 782 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: only like BBC, I will never fuck you. I would 783 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: never even think of fucking you, and like, you know, 784 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: just really be talking ship and to me, that's a 785 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: great way to make money, just casually at home the same. Yeah, 786 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: there's so many women. I do that for free right now. 787 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: I do that to people all the time. You have, 788 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: any student, I'm signing up for your class. Yeah, so 789 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: all we gotta do is we're gonna look at that 790 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: hashtagy girlfriend and be like I'm a post, Like, well, 791 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: I just paid you for dinner. Hello, I said you 792 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: went to to Loom flight. I just went to New 793 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: York the film lip Service. Pay for this first my flight. 794 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: Tell us about that story. I love I love to 795 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: Loom too. I'm going back again. Yeah, I'm going to 796 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: remember it's get It's gonna be my third time this year. 797 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: Like I'm obsessed. But basically, my trip to Learn for 798 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: my birthday was all sub funded. Um so I get 799 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: a lot of subfunded things. I got my boots on 800 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: in February that was subfunded. Didn't pay a dime. Um, 801 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: my birthday trip was sub funded. So basically I just 802 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: told the sub like, hey, this is where I'm going. 803 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: He paid for all my friends like they're rooming board. 804 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: He paid for a photographer while he was out there, massages, food, everything, 805 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: and that was just him want to just worship me 806 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: and just feel like, you know, he was putting in 807 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: on the trip. No, never met him in person. No. 808 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: So it's like the whole thing about financial domination for 809 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: me was finding that financial freedom from not having to 810 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: do a nine and five. Basically, as a fendom, you're 811 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: basically getting paid to exist. That's the definition of it. 812 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: Just worst okay with this, Oh, it's some couples that 813 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: do it together. There are men that do it. They're 814 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: called cash masters. Come yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So that 815 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: men that I do it, whether they're straight or gay. 816 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: There's other men that might want to pay them. You 817 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: might have some women that might want to send them 818 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: some money. So there's men that do it to you 819 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: just don't find them as often. So if you do, 820 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: like search cash master on Twitter, it's not gonna be 821 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: as many posts as like finom. You know. So a 822 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 1: r yeah, but I feel like we learned a lot. 823 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: And how can people find you? So you can find me? 824 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: You on Instagram hopefully, so it's mother Marley, m U 825 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: v A Marley and r L E y. But all 826 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: the good stuff is on Twitter, which is eyes E 827 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: y E s X. On fire. You can just search 828 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: your mistress Marley and I'll come up. And then I 829 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: teach on patreon dot com slash Sex Academy five dollars 830 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: a month. You can choose to be either you can 831 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: do finndom. I have some sugar Baby tips up there, 832 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: um the courses seven. I have over a hundred courses 833 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: for mentoring too, So that's the easiest way to learn. 834 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: All right, take us out of here with something. M's 835 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: just Marley and Beta bitch. Get back on Twitter, Twitter, Twitter, stoppe. 836 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,919 Speaker 1: I'll be there right when I'm growing back. I would 837 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: watching and I was live tweeting during the time that 838 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: my show with airing on wet bed. I feel like 839 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,479 Speaker 1: I be on the pole. Yeah, so I feel like, yeah, 840 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: I got now, I got a reason to go back. 841 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: What's the next thing you're gonna step up to? Like, 842 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: what's next? Beta base? Tell us something that you want 843 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: to graduate to. I don't know, it's really up to her, right, 844 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: it's a it's a submissive relationship, so uh, you know, 845 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: I'll take her lead whatever she wants. I want to 846 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: get more into like rigging, that's with the rope and 847 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: all that stuff. I want to get more into that. 848 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: Wells that tell me, I don't know what so rigging 849 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: is like, you know, you've ever seen people like suspended 850 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: with ropes things like whatever, So I want to do that. 851 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: I want to have him suspend it. And it just 852 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: had my feet all in his mouth. So you okay 853 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: with that? Betta bitch, Well maybe there's light bonders might 854 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: be in between that. Yeah, alright, Well, thank you all 855 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: so much for coming at being so open about everything, 856 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: because I will find this very interesting. Obviously, there's a 857 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: whole community that people that's involved, and we want to 858 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: make sure people do things in the safest way that 859 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: they possibly can as far as how they meet you know, 860 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: their dumb or their stub and knowing about the safe words, 861 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 1: but also knowing that like, no matter what you wanna do, 862 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 1: we don't judge. And there's somebody out there ready to serve. 863 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: And now you know he's gonna be going home jacking off. 864 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: The thinking about you doing all this ship? All right, 865 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: he said, as long as she posted ship, would you 866 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: send that to her? What would happen if somebody sent you, 867 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: like a video of them jacking off. I don't know, 868 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: I might. Uh, they'll definitely have to pay me, Like yeah, 869 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: like I don't want to see that. I didn't ask 870 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: to see that, So send me some money now that 871 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: I have to see it, right, It's all about the money, 872 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 1: all right. Lift Service