1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Day 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. They invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: to Coast am employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi, 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll just discuss the reasons we now 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: know that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. What 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: happens when a man is crushed by a truck and 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: watches angels save his life. You'll hear that astonishing evidence 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: packed near death experience later in our show today, But first, 21 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: what if you didn't need a crisis to connect with 22 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: the other side. Afterlife expert and podcast host Gary Langley 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: has been guided by spirit his entire life, and he's 24 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: here to share his evidence of the afterlife and how 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: we can all learn to listen. Here's Gary. 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: You know, I kind of came into this life not 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: feeling like this was all there was. I felt there 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: was a greater reality, and then I started having some 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: experiences which led me down the path a little further. 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: I think one of my first experiences in young adulthood, 31 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: I was about nineteen. We had no heat in the 32 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: house because of Florida, but there was a cold snap 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: and my bed was a mattress on the floor. So 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: at that time I was nineteen and now I can't 35 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: get up from that. It was an extremely cold night 36 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: and I had a space heater and a big quilt 37 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: on my bed, and I kept moving the space heater closer, 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: and in the wee hours of the morning, it was 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: as if a face was right in front of mine 40 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: and shouted Gary. As I opened my eyes, the quilt 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: blew up in flames. I folded it over on itself 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: and put the fire out. Now I'm a sound sleeper, 43 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: so had that not transpired, I could have been extremely injured. 44 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: That added to my curiosity of what was that? Who 45 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: was giving me a warning? And They've happened throughout my life. 46 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell another story many years later. I was driving 47 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: down a mountain road and sometimes I'm Claire Audient and 48 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: it's just like a thought in my head, but it's 49 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: not my thought, and I hear, Gary, you might want 50 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: to slow down. There's a blind curve ahead, and Gary, 51 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: you might want to slow down. There's a gray Pinto 52 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: on the wrong side of the road. Now, not only 53 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: did it give me a warning, it gave me evidence. 54 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: So I instinctively slowed down, and around the curve on 55 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: my lane came a primered gray Pinto and I would 56 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: have head on with that car. I had to pull 57 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: over after that one and just say, oh, my gosh, 58 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: that just happened. So experiences like that, I've always felt protected, 59 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: and I've always felt a great sense of protection, and 60 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: that deepened my search for what's this reality really about. 61 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: Let me backtrack a little. In the mid nineteen seventies, 62 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: of course, I found Raymond Moody's book right after it 63 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: came out, Giving Away my age here. But that was 64 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: profound to me. It resonated with me on a level. 65 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: And there wasn't much about near death experiences available at 66 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: that time. So that started a journey of looking into that. 67 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: I began to delve into different teachers. At that point, 68 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: I had a really interesting experience. I had had a 69 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: twenty year thyroid overactive thyroid condition and doctors had told me, well, 70 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, you need to drink radioactive iodine, which kills 71 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: part of the thyroid, and they said, condition like yours 72 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: doesn't just go away. Well, at the time, I had 73 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: been reading a lot of the work of Joel Goldsmith, 74 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: who was an incredible healer in his day, and so 75 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: I thought, I don't want to drink radioactive iodine. And 76 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: I had a doctor in New York tell me, you know, 77 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: if you do that, you could get thyroid cancer. So 78 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, let's skip that. So I started using 79 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: Goldsmith's method and I would sit in sort of a 80 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: meditation and say, if this has a beginning, then it 81 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: has an end, and it's not the real because the 82 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: real has no beginning and no end. It just Is 83 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: and I went back to the doctor. Different doctor. This 84 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: was at Kaiser Hospital in California. She's looking at me 85 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: and she said, let's test your thyroid, and she had 86 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: just taken radioactive iodine for her thyroid. All my te 87 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: levels came back normal. It just vanished. She said, you're 88 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: one for the textbooks because twenty year issue like that 89 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: does not clear itself up. Never heard of that. And 90 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: I said, well, there are other ways of healing, and 91 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: she said, okay, go ahead tell me. And I just 92 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: stayed silent because it wasn't going to fly. I couldn't 93 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: explain that. So, realizing there is a greater reality, I 94 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: began to explore read everything I could get my hands on. 95 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: The more I began to take in and have experiences 96 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: of my own and some out of body experiences as well. 97 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: I developed a belief in the afterlife. But that's not 98 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: the hole enchilada, because a belief implies doubt. It could 99 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: be true, it could not be true, and that's a 100 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: healthy reaction initially, but there came a tipping point where 101 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: it went from belief to knowing that the afterlife exists. 102 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: The most profound out of body experience I had was 103 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, September sixth. I remember the day well 104 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: because it was my mother's birthday as well. I lived 105 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: on a camp and retreat center in the Sierra Mountains, 106 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: and at that time I worked under somebody else. He 107 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: and his family lived there. On September sixth, we watched 108 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: his daughter drive out to her first day of her 109 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: senior year of high school. And she drove to the 110 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: San Joaquin Valley, which was the Fresno area, and we 111 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: watched her drive out. We did our day's work. I 112 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: went home that evening. I lived on the property as well, 113 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: in a different dwelling than they did. That evening, I 114 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: went to bed and suddenly my whole body started vibrating. 115 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: I was seeing gold flecks of light, and I'm like 116 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: in that in between state. Suddenly I find myself and 117 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm on the roof of a building and I'm looking 118 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: down at the streets and there are trash can fires 119 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: and people screaming, and I thought, this is really unusual. 120 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: Somebody pointed to a building on this flat roof of 121 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: this building I'm on, it was like a little shed. 122 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: I walked over to the shed and opened the door 123 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: and there was my friend's daughter, and she looked at 124 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: me and she said, Hi, what are you doing here? 125 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: And I said, I can't stay. I just want you 126 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: to know you're loved. And I gave her a hug, 127 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: and then I woke up same experience, my whole body vibrating. 128 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: So I thought, well, that was really vivid and very unusual. 129 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: So the next day came, the seventh of September, her 130 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: father came over. We began our day's work on the property, 131 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: and I'm seeing concern on his face and I said, 132 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: what's wrong. I'll make up a name, because just to 133 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: protect their privacy, he said, we can't find Susan. I 134 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: knew immediately I had seen her on the other side. 135 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't until midday that day that a helicopter was 136 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: flown they found the wreckage of her car from the 137 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: morning of the sixth. But I had no clue that 138 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: anything was miss I had no idea that she had 139 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: crossed over at sixteen years of age, and I had 140 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: never dreamed of her before or after. And it was 141 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: also much more vivid than any dream I'd ever had. 142 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: So that was a profound eye opener, A scale tipper, 143 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: and I really suggest to people do some research, find 144 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: a good medium. Now I'll skip ahead to my sixty 145 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: fourth birthday. I had planned a reading with Suzanne Wilson. Well, 146 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: she blew my socks off because the morning of my 147 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: sixty fourth birthday, I was having my morning coffee and 148 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: I said to Siri, please play when I'm sixty four 149 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: by the Beatles. So I go that afternoon onto Zoom 150 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: to have the reading, and at one point during the reading, 151 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: Suzanne says, well, that's funny. I'm hearing that Beatles song 152 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: Will you still need me? Will you will feed me 153 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: when I'm sixty four? And I said, oh, you want 154 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: to know something. She said, hold on, I have a 155 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: little woman bringing that song through. She said, I think 156 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: it's your mother. She said five two blue eyes. Absolutely. 157 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: My mother was five two with blue eyes. So when 158 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: you have a reading like that, something switches in you. 159 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: You begin to realize, oh, this stuff is real. Because 160 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: we will try and talk ourselves out of the signs 161 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: we get. We'll feel very confident in them, and then 162 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: we'll go, oh, my mind's just making that up. No 163 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: it's not. So she gave me a whole hour and 164 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: a half of evidence in that reading. I had another 165 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: really good reading. The camp that I used to manage 166 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: in the Sierra Mountains was built by Bob Matthias, who 167 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: was the nineteen forty eight and fifty two de Caathlon 168 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: gold medal winner in the Olympics and also a four 169 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: term congressman. Bob contracted cancer and his wife called me 170 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: and said, he really wants to see you. So I 171 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: went down to their house. I'm sitting by his chair 172 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: talking to him. At one point I put my hand 173 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: on his arm and I said, Bob, I really love you. 174 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: Because he had become like family. You know, Bob was 175 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: from a different generation, so it was probably a little 176 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: hard for him to have a guy say I love you. 177 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: And he immediately said, and I love that camp. And 178 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: I could tell it made him a little nervous that 179 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: I had said that, but you know, he took it 180 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: fast forward. He did pass away. I went to about 181 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: four months later a public demonstration of mediumship by a 182 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: medium called Peter Close from the UK. I'd never met 183 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: this medium before. I'm in a room of one hundred 184 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: and fifty people. At one point, Peter said, I have 185 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: a world class athlete here. I look around, nobody's raising 186 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: their hand. He said he was known as the world's 187 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: greatest athlete in his day. He was. And so I 188 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: put my hand up and he said, he wants you 189 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: to know something, and I said, what's that. He said, 190 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: he loves you too. He just couldn't say it when 191 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: he was there. Now that's evidence. Nobody could make that 192 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: stuff up. Once you realize you have all kinds of 193 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: help from the other side to convince you that you're eternal, 194 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: and once you do realize that, that's pretty much the 195 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: end of psychological fear. 196 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: We'll take our break now, and when we get back, 197 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: Gary shares the story of a devastating house fire, the 198 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: heroic dog who saved his life, and why imagination is 199 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: the key to opening the door to the other side. 200 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the 201 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 3: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast and Paranormal 202 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm 203 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: Sandra Champlain. Let's continue our conversation with The Soul Explorer's 204 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: podcast host Gary Lang. 205 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: I think we as a race of people, we harbor 206 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: too much fear. And when I say fear, I'm not 207 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: talking about there's a bear chasing me. I'm talking about, well, 208 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: what if this happens, what if that happens? Mostly never happens, 209 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: but we spend a lot of time on it. Well, 210 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: that kind of drops away when you finally get to 211 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: that point that you realize is that important, You don't 212 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: need to be afraid. So this year I went through 213 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: a pretty profound experience. I had moved from California back 214 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: to Florida to assist my cousin. It was sort of 215 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: a lifelong pact that if we're both single, we'll move 216 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: in together when we're retired. I was with her for 217 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: a year and she passed away. So a year after that, 218 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: on January fourth of this year, I had this wonderful dog. 219 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: He's a chocolate lab. His name was Bear. I also 220 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: had a cat i'd had for fourteen years. At one 221 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, and remember I'm a sound sleeper, 222 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier, one thirty in the morning, the 223 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: dog starts dancing on the bed and making a very 224 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: weird sound, waking me out of a deep sleep, at 225 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: which point I realized my house was on fire, so 226 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: moving very quickly to get out because houses burn fast. 227 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: I have to tell you my dog was right behind 228 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: me as I was going out, and when I hit 229 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: the living room to get to the door, there was 230 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: no oxygen. I took a breath in it burned, but 231 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: there was no air, so I held my breath. He 232 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: was right behind me, but he turned around and went 233 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: back to the bedroom because he couldn't breathe and I 234 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: could not yet him to come. Barely got out with 235 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: my life, and that dog saved my life. So ended 236 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: up losing him due to asphyxiation, and also my cat 237 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: which I never did find her and everything I owned. 238 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: So life presents us with some very incredible scenarios. There's 239 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: two ways you can go. You can be a victim 240 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: or you can say okay, that was an experience that 241 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: I went through. It wasn't happening to me specifically, it 242 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: was maybe happening for me. That's hard to take. I 243 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: understand when you lose everything. As a medium I was 244 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: interviewing recently said she said, Gary, you have no more attachments. 245 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: You are now free to do the work. You're doing 246 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: full tilt. There's nothing holding you back. That was the 247 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: feeling I emerged from, and people were asking me how 248 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: are you functioning? Because I was still doing our podcast, 249 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: and I have to say the community of people stepped up. 250 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: Somebody started to go fund me for me, which really helped. 251 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: I said, well, I'm not a victim. I'm actually happy, 252 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: not that it happened, but I'm still in a state 253 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: of happiness. My dog saved my life. I survived with 254 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: the clothes on my back, and here we are some 255 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: months later. But it's all working out, and it freed 256 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: me into the next step of the work I want 257 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: to do, which is not to try and convince anyone 258 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: of the afterlife, but provide the information. And I put 259 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: this challenge out to anyone. Go on the journey. Take 260 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: the journey, investigate, read books, find out more, listen to 261 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: podcasts like yours. You will not regret taking this journey, 262 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: because once you realize this is all real, the greater 263 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: reality is real, then your whole life changes. 264 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: Oh Gary Wow. Our friend Brian Smith has the website 265 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: and book Grief to Growth. We love Brian. I know 266 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: Ra your story truly is one of choosing an empowering 267 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: context to live in, because that mind wants to fight us. 268 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: In my own head, whether it's to be a victim 269 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: or this shouldn't have happened, or the what ifs, or 270 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 3: the guilts, or how I could have done all this differently. 271 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: Through your journey, you've built up yourself so that you 272 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: could actually choose an empowering context to live in. I 273 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: doubt it's twenty four to seven because you're human, but 274 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: you are showing people that there is something available by 275 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 3: our thoughts. 276 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: Am I correct, Oh, absolutely, our thoughts are things. Now. 277 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: I don't believe I created the reality of a fire, 278 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: but our thoughts are really powerful. And what are we 279 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: entertaining If we're entertaining victimhood, We're putting out negativity. It's 280 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: a very low vibration. We all know people that do 281 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: that live in that state. They're not happy. Somebody was 282 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: telling me about how bad their day was and how 283 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: the food where they were was terrible, and I said, look, 284 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: change your thoughts, change your reality. And as you begin 285 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: to perceive things with the knowledge that there is this 286 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: greater reality that we're just walking through this very short 287 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: time on earth. So when we judge things, we're going 288 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: to keep experiencing that coming up for us until we 289 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: no longer judge them. So think about your thoughts as 290 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: creative because they are always creating your reality. 291 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: And sometimes grief is a thing that cracks us wide 292 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: open to go on this adventure some different ways. I 293 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: wanted to ask about pets because our heart goes out 294 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: to you with bear and your kitty. What are your 295 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: thoughts about animals in the afterlife? 296 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: Their spirit too? And I can tell you I think 297 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: I communicate with animals pretty well. I had a really 298 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: strong bond with my dog. I'm caretaking a dog right now, 299 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: which is a Great Pyrenees, and we make this eye 300 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: contact and there's a communication going on. It's not verbal 301 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: for me, but there's an understanding. So their spirit just 302 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: like we are. And the people that are pet communicators, 303 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: they're doing the same thing mediums do. And in fact, 304 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: I asked the pet communicator last night that we had 305 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: on do you communicate with people as well? So she goes, yeah, 306 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: I see spirit people as well. So our animals are 307 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: great teachers. My animals have taught me unconditional love, and 308 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: unfortunately love is a word that's so misunderstood in our society. Yes, 309 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: there can be a personal love from me to another person, 310 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: and that's generally what we think of when we think 311 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: of love. But I'm talking about A love that doesn't exclude, 312 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: is all encompassing. Even if you don't like somebody, you 313 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: can love them. Doesn't mean you have to be around them, 314 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: but you can extend love because you see they are 315 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: where they are on their journey, and be supportive of them. 316 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: One thing I have noticed is the more I do 317 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: this work, and I bet Sandra you probably have had 318 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: the same experience, my intuitive and ability to connect has increased, 319 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: and I will often now get messages from people when 320 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: we're in an interview. And in fact, we had a 321 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: medium on recently whose son had transitioned and he started 322 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: giving me information which she confirmed. So your own abilities 323 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: to connect and how do you do that, well, just 324 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: be still, be quiet, talk to them. It's very easy 325 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: to just sit down and have a conversation with them. 326 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: If they realize you have that interest in connecting, they're 327 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: going to make the effort to give you signs and 328 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: maybe even directly talk to you. Anybody can develop this. 329 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: We all have the ability. It's atrophied because of the 330 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: society we live in, but it can be reignited. I 331 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: do meditate some, but I'm not a big meditator, but 332 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: I at least take a few minutes to get quiet 333 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: every day, and when you do that, send out a 334 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: hello to your loved ones on the other side and 335 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: you'll get one back. Imagination is a key to opening 336 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: that door. And we think of imagination as not being real. 337 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: It's very real. So one thing I've come to realize 338 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: is this world is not what it appears to be 339 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: to us. We think of everything is a solid object, 340 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: but even science will tell us this table is a 341 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: bunch of moving particles with a lot of space in between. 342 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: But we see it as a solid object. And I 343 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: think somebody and I wish I could remember his name, 344 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: recently won a Nobel Peace Prize for saying that when 345 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: we are viewing something, what's behind us doesn't really exist 346 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: until we turn around and look at it. So science 347 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: is coming along, especially with studies and quantum physics. What 348 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: we need to realize we're all energy and we're all connected. 349 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 1: So find out for yourself. Nobody can convince you. I mean, 350 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: even what we do. We're putting the information out there, 351 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: but you can't convince anybody until they have a direct experience. 352 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: And don't dismiss the little signs and synchronicities that come 353 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: your way because those will increase as you become more 354 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: open to them. Don't force them, don't try and look 355 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: for a sign in everything, but sometimes things will happen 356 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: that are just undeniable. 357 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 3: Gary, from the bottom of my heart and our listeners 358 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: as well, thank you for being our guest today. 359 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for having me. If I can leave 360 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: one last thought with everyone, wake up every day, think 361 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: of three things that you're grateful for and start your 362 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: day that way. And to be of service that's the 363 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: greatest thing. And to be of service doesn't have to 364 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: be a big act. It can be smiling at the 365 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: checkout person in the store. It can be a kind 366 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: word or holding a door for an elderly person. It 367 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: can change everything for them in that day. You don't 368 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: even know the effects that has, but begin to live 369 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: from that place in yourself where you're of service to 370 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: others and love like you never have before, and embrace 371 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: life because it's a grand adventure. 372 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: Be sure to check out the Soul Explorers podcast and 373 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 3: when we get back, you'll hear a story of a 374 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: man crushed under the weight of a twelve thousand pound 375 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 3: truck who floated to the ceiling three times with a 376 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: miraculous healing, near death experience, verifiable information and more. We'll 377 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: be right back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife 378 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a m paranormal 379 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm 380 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 3: Sander Shampane now an incredible near death experience. It's about 381 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 3: a man named Bruce Van Nada, and before his life 382 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 3: was forever changed, he would not have described himself as 383 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 3: a spiritual person. He was just a regular guy from Wisconsin, 384 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 3: a husband, a father, and a talented mechanic who had 385 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: started his own successful diesel repair business. His childhood was difficult. 386 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: Both of his parents had been severely abused and neglected 387 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: as kids, and they often self medicated their deep inner pain. 388 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 3: It was what many would call a dysfunctional home filled 389 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 3: with verbal and physical abuse. As a young man, Bruce 390 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 3: tried to soothe his own inner pain with drugs, alcohol, 391 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 3: and adrenaline. He raced motorcycles when big game hunting, anything 392 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 3: to feel something other than the wounds he carried from 393 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: his family. Eventually, Bruce got married, started a family, and 394 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: poured his energy into his work building his mechanic business. 395 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 3: From the ground up, and it was on a work 396 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: call at the end of a long day that his 397 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: world would literally be crushed. On November sixteenth, two thousand 398 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 3: and six, Bruce was at a remote logging business working 399 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: on a truck with a coolant leak. It had already 400 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 3: been a long, twelve hour day for him, starting at 401 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: six am that morning. He was packing up his last 402 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: few tools ready for his long drive home when the 403 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: other mechanic, a man named Leonard, whom he'd known for 404 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 3: a long long time, tapped him on the shoulder. Bruce 405 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: remembers looking up at the clock on the wall and 406 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: seeing it was six ten pm. He just wanted to 407 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: go home and eat supper, but Leonard asked Bruce to 408 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: look at one last thing, a small oil leak under 409 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: the engine. So Bruce looked. He saw that the massive 410 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 3: logging truck was propped up in the air by a 411 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: single slender bottle jack. The front wheel had been removed. 412 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: There were no safety stands, no jack stands, no wooden blocks, 413 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 3: nothing to prevent thousands of pounds of steel from crashing 414 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 3: to the floor if that one jack failed. But Bruce 415 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,239 Speaker 3: also noticed that the truck had been sitting like that 416 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 3: for three days already. Leonard had even been under it 417 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: just moments before, so in a fateful assumption, Bruce thought 418 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 3: to himself, Oh, no, big deal, it must be good. 419 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: Trusting the setup, Bruce rolled underneath the truck on his back, 420 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: feet first. He settled in with the bumper just behind 421 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: his head, the still running engine humming inches above his face, 422 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: and the massive front axle, weighing between ten and twelve 423 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 3: thousand pounds, hovering just a few inches above his stomach. 424 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: He quickly found the oil leak and yelled for Leonard 425 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: to shut the engine off. Leonard climbed up into the 426 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: cab of the truck, and that's when everything went wrong. 427 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: As Leonard's weight settled into the driver's seat, the truck's 428 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: air suspension caused the entire chassis to lift. It was 429 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 3: a normal movement for the truck, but a death sentence 430 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: for the jack beneath it. Bruce saw a flicker of 431 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: movement in his peripheral vision and turned his head just 432 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: in time to see the jack teetering rocking on the 433 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: edge of the axle. Before he could even shout, it 434 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: shot out and five tons of weight fell right through 435 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: the middle of his body. The axle itself was six 436 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: or eight inches wide and rounded, not sharp. It acted 437 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: like a blunt guillotine, crushing him in half. There was 438 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: a deafening explosion of steel hitting concrete, and before the 439 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: first wave of unimaginable pain even registered, before he even 440 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: looked down to see the damage, Bruce's spirit cried out. 441 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 3: He remembers saying, Lord help me twice. When he finally 442 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: looked down, he saw that the axel had fallen completely 443 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: through him. There was only an inch of space between 444 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: the axle and the concrete floor. He knew in that 445 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: moment his body was about an inch thick, literally thinner 446 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: than his own spine. The pain, he said, was just 447 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 3: off the charts. Leonard, now in a panic, managed to 448 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 3: get the truck jacked back up just enough to lift 449 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: it off Bruce's body, and for the first time Bruce 450 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: could see the full extent of this horror. He said 451 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 3: the only word he could think of to describe the 452 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 3: impossible flat spot in his middle was cartoonish, and that 453 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 3: there was nothing in life that it could compare to. 454 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 3: Lying there looking at his own impossibly flattened body. A 455 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: new terror set in the truck was teetering on the 456 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: jack again, he begged Leonard to drag him out, terrified 457 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: the jack would slip and crush him a second time. 458 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: But Leonard was frozen, paralyzed by the fear that moving 459 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: a man with a back injury could make things worse. 460 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 3: He kept repeating to himself, I've called nine one one, 461 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: I've called nine one one. Bruce knew he had to 462 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 3: save himself. He reached back, grabbed the bottom of the bumper, 463 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: and with every ounce of his strength, he dragged himself out. 464 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 3: He noticed his bicep was shaking uncontrollably, so fast it 465 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: was a blur. But something was even more terrifying. In 466 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: that moment of exertion, he realized the truck had collapsed 467 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 3: his lungs. He was desperately sucking for air but getting nothing. 468 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 3: And then he heard the sound of his own life ending. 469 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: His heart, which had been pounding in his ears, suddenly 470 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: just stopped. He said, it sounded like an engine shutting off, 471 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 3: and on the last beat of his heart, his spirit 472 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: left his body. In an instant, Bruce was floating fifteen 473 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: feet up in the rafters of the garage. The excruciating, 474 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 3: world ending pain was gone. In its place was a 475 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: feeling he could only describe as perfect piece. It was 476 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 3: a piece, he said, that surpassed all mental understanding. He 477 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: was so blissful, so disconnected from the horrific scene below, 478 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: that he didn't even realize that the crushed man on 479 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: the floor was him. He was just watching, having what 480 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 3: he called a party by myself. In the ceiling. Bruce 481 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: watch as the volunteer EMTs began to arrive, their pagers 482 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 3: having gone off all over the small town. He saw 483 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: eight of them come through the main door of the garage, 484 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 3: but as Bruce watched from above, the ninth and tenth 485 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: responders came in through a different door, a back door. 486 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: This tiny little detail, an insignificant observation, would become the 487 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: cornerstone of his story, because over a year later, after 488 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: months in the hospital, Bruce went to that fire department's 489 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: monthly meeting to thank the people who responded to his accident. 490 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: He was able to walk around the room and pick 491 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 3: out eight of the ten people who had been there. 492 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: Two of them were the last to arrive, the two 493 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: who had come in the wrong door. In front of everyone, 494 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: he asked them why they had to think for a 495 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: moment and then they remembered they had missed the driveway 496 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: and the chaos and had come in a secondary entrance. 497 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 3: That little detail witnessed while he had no heartbeat and 498 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 3: no pulse, proved that the real Bruce was in fact 499 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 3: in the ceiling looking down. This is one of the 500 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 3: most powerful examples, by the way of a vertical perception, 501 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: that we have an impossible detail observed while clinically dead, 502 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: and verified over a year later from his out of 503 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 3: body vantage point. Bruce also saw two enormous eight foot 504 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 3: tall angels with long hair and shining white robes, kneeling 505 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 3: on either side of his body, placing their hands into 506 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 3: that flat spot where he'd been crushed. It didn't seem 507 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 3: strange to him from the ceiling, he later said, it 508 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 3: felt perfectly normal, because in the spirit, realm angels are normal. 509 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 3: He watched as Leonard knelt beside him, crying, running his 510 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: fingers the hair of the body on the floor, apologizing 511 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 3: over and over, saying I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I should 512 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 3: be the one that's dead, not you. He saw a 513 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: big man in farmer bib overalls, standing with his arms crossed, 514 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 3: telling the others it's too late, He's passed from the ceiling. 515 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 3: He watched as a female emt named Shannon pushed her 516 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 3: way in, frantically searching for a pulse, slapping his face 517 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 3: and yelling his name over and over again. Her voice 518 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: began to pull him back. He remembers his spirit creeping 519 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 3: down from the ceiling before rushing back into his body, 520 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: and in that instant, with no CPR, no medicine, nothing, 521 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 3: his heart started beating again. Bruce was back. His eyes 522 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 3: popped open, and the first thing that hit him was 523 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 3: the horrifying, sickening pain and shocking realization. Oh no, I'm 524 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 3: the guy under the truck. It's me, and it hurts 525 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 3: so bad. The pain was so overwhelming that his spirit 526 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 3: immediately rejected it. He remembers simply thinking, I don't want this, 527 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: and in that instant his heart stopped again. His spirit 528 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: left his body and shot back up to the ceiling rafters, 529 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 3: but this time something new appeared. A tunnel opened up 530 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 3: before him, going up at a forty five degree angle 531 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 3: with a brilliant light at the end. He knew it 532 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 3: was heaven, and he felt himself rocketing towards it, feeling 533 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: g force like a thrill ride. He was going home. 534 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 3: Before he could reach the end, he heard Shannon's voice 535 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 3: calling his name again, and he was sucked backwards, pulled 536 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 3: out of the tunnel, and slammed back into his body. 537 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 3: His heart started being for a second time again, the 538 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 3: agony was just too much. He thought, I don't want 539 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 3: to fight. It hurts too bad, and for a third time, 540 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 3: his heart stopped. His spirit left and he flew back 541 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 3: up the tunnel, and a third time he was pulled 542 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 3: right back. As his heart started. For the final time, 543 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 3: he heard a new voice, a calm, powerful voice that 544 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: he knew was God. It said to him, if you 545 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 3: want to live, you're going to have to fight, and 546 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 3: it's going to be a hard fight. Bruce thought about 547 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 3: it for a couple of seconds and decided no, this 548 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: piece was too good and the pain was too great. 549 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 3: We're going to stop for our break right now, so 550 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 3: that when we get back, you'll also hear Bruce's miraculous 551 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 3: healing more verifiable information. And I just remembered two guys 552 00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 3: that told me some incredible verifiable information shared after a 553 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: near death experience. So we'll be right back. You're listening 554 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Costacosta 555 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 3: Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 556 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain and before I continue with Bruce's story, 557 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 3: his miraculous healing and other details, this story reminded me 558 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 3: of two people that I met. One was a paramedic 559 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 3: who said a man flatlined was put into the ambulance. 560 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 3: He and the other paramedic never spoke with this man, 561 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 3: and the man's eyes were closed the entire time. After 562 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 3: he got better, he went and he found the paramedics 563 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 3: that helped him, and when asked how he could identify 564 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 3: those paramedics, he said it was easy because while he 565 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 3: was in the ambulance, he read their name tags. The 566 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 3: other is a story I heard from a firefighter. Often, 567 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 3: the fire department is first called when there is an emergency, 568 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 3: and an ambulance follows. While this team of firefighters found 569 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 3: a woman again flatlined in her bathtub. Now this was 570 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 3: a very obese woman, and one of the firefighters made 571 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: a derogatory comment about the woman. The woman survived and 572 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 3: because her consciousness was not in her body, but she 573 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 3: was witnessing this scene, she went to the fire department 574 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,959 Speaker 3: and she tracked down the man who made the derogatory 575 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 3: comment and gave him a piece of her mind. Pretty incredible. 576 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 3: Let's continue with Bruce's story. Last we knew he has 577 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 3: flatlined a few times and his heart started beating again. 578 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 3: He would rise to the ceiling to view everything, and 579 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 3: next we'll hear about a voice. He heard a new voice, 580 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 3: a calm, powerful voice that he knew was God. It 581 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 3: said to him, if you want to live, you're going 582 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 3: to have to fight, and it's going to be a 583 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 3: hard fight. Bruce thought about it for a couple of 584 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 3: seconds and decided no, this piece was too good and 585 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 3: the pain was too great. He was ready to give 586 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 3: up for good. But then the emt Shannon, leaned in 587 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: close and asked him a question that would change the 588 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 3: course of his destiny. She asked, what do you have 589 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 3: to fight for? Do you have a wife? Do you 590 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 3: have kids? Until that moment, the pain had erased everything else. 591 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: But now, in a flash, he remembered his family and 592 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 3: he knew this was God using this woman to remind 593 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 3: him why he had to stay. He chose to fight. 594 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 3: Bruce was back in a body that was destroyed beyond comprehension, 595 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 3: having made the choice to endure an impossible battle, but 596 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: his journey to the other side and the incredible miracles 597 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 3: that would follow were far from over. Bruce was airlifted 598 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 3: to a major trauma center, where the head surgeon, who 599 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 3: was called in from home, took one look at his 600 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 3: catastrophic injuries and delivered a grim prognosis to Bruce's wife, Laurie. 601 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 3: The surgeon told her two things. First, in all my 602 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 3: years of running this trauma center, I've never seen a 603 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 3: body so badly crushed and still make it to the 604 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 3: hospital alive. Your husband must have one hell of a 605 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: will to fight. And second, he said, his body is 606 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 3: so badly destroyed and damaged, don't expect him to live 607 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 3: through the hour, but cross your fingers. Laurie and their 608 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 3: friends from church refused to cross their fingers. They began 609 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 3: to pray. Knowing the doctor had given him less than 610 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 3: an hour to live, they decided to thank God for 611 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 3: every thirty minutes that Bruce remained alive. All through that 612 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 3: long night, they gathered in a circle every half hour, 613 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 3: offering prayers of gratitude. The next morning, the surgeon came 614 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 3: in shocked to find Bruce was still alive. Bruce was 615 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 3: kept in a medically induced coma for weeks while surgeons 616 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 3: performed five major operations trying to piece his body back together. 617 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 3: They later reviewed his case and the medical literature, confirming 618 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 3: that he is the only person in history to have 619 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 3: survived having five major arteries severed in that way. But 620 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 3: that wasn't the biggest miracle. The truck's axle had obliterated 621 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 3: nearly all of his small intestines. At the time of 622 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 3: his accident, medical science believed a person needed a minimum 623 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 3: of one hundred centimeters of small intestine to absorb nutrients 624 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 3: to sustain life. Doctors were only able to save a 625 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 3: tiny piece, leaving him well below that critical threshold. Bruce 626 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 3: was in the hospital for months, unable to eat, wasting away, 627 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 3: losing sixty five pounds. He was literally starving to death. 628 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 3: His appearance changed so drastically that one of his own 629 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 3: aunts came into his hospital room and didn't recognize him, 630 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 3: thinking she was in the wrong room. Finally, a doctor 631 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 3: gave him the devastating news they didn't expect him to 632 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 3: live more than six months to a year. And then 633 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 3: something else extraordinary happened. A man Bruce had never met, 634 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 3: named Bruce Carlson, living halfway across the country in New York, 635 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 3: was woken up at five a m. Two mornings in 636 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 3: a row, he heard a voice he believed was God 637 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 3: telling him to buy a plane ticket to fly to 638 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 3: Wisconsin and pray for Bruce van Nada in the hospital. 639 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 3: The first morning, the man was freaked out and didn't 640 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 3: do it. The second morning, the voice was so loud 641 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 3: he bought the ticket. He came to the hospital and 642 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 3: laid his hands on Bruce's forehead. As he prayed, Bruce 643 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 3: felt a tangible energy surge through his body. He felt 644 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 3: the power of God come out of the man's palms, 645 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 3: go into his stomach, and physically felt his intestines coming back. 646 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 3: Doctors later confirmed the impossible. Bruce went from having just 647 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 3: a tiny, insufficient piece of intestine to having nine to 648 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 3: eleven feet, approximately half of a normal person's length. It 649 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 3: was a complete miracle, a healing that nobody could deny 650 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 3: because there was no medical proof before or after this. 651 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 3: And what about Shannon, the EMT who had called him 652 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 3: back to life three times? Her story adds another layer 653 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 3: of synchronicity to this incredible event. Bruce later learned that Shannon, 654 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 3: who had been raised Catholic had walked away from her 655 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 3: faith as a teenager, declaring herself an atheist. Years later, 656 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 3: she and her husband bought a house that they thought 657 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 3: had spirits in it, what some people would call a haunting. 658 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 3: The thumps and bumps were so undeniable that it forced 659 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 3: her to reconsider her entire worldview. If spirits were real, 660 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 3: she reasoned, then maybe God was real too. She had 661 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 3: just begun this new spiritual journey when she was the 662 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 3: one who responded to Bruce's accident, and in that critical moment, 663 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 3: she didn't just perform CPR. She prayed. She said, she 664 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 3: prayed with all of her heart three times for God 665 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 3: to bring Bruce back. Bruce's experience completely transformed him. He 666 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 3: spent his life running from inner pain, but his journey 667 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 3: to the other side healed him in ways that went 668 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 3: far beyond the physical. The first thing he wanted to 669 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 3: do when he came out of his coma was to 670 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 3: tell everybody about the angels. He tried to speak, but 671 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 3: he had a breathing tube in his throat. He motioned 672 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 3: for a pen and paper, but his brain was so 673 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 3: traumatized he couldn't form the letters. It took six months 674 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 3: before he could read or write again. But the very 675 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 3: first thing he said when the tube finally came out 676 00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,320 Speaker 3: was I saw two angels. God sent two human among 677 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 3: his angels to save me. Bruce's story is a stunning 678 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 3: testament to the reality of the spirit world, my friends, 679 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 3: the power of prayer, and the miracles that can occur 680 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 3: when we open ourselves to a reality beyond the physical. 681 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 3: His journey shows us that even in our darkest moments, 682 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 3: we are not alone. He saw angels, he felt a 683 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 3: sense of peace from that ceiling that surpasses all understanding, 684 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 3: and he came back with proof, proof that consciousness survives, 685 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 3: and proof that a loving force is always with us, 686 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 3: even when we can't see it with our earthly eyes. 687 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 3: He was saved, he believes, for a reason. One time 688 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 3: on a TV show, the host asked him, why would 689 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 3: God save you if nobody else with these injuries has 690 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 3: ever lived. What's so special about you? Bruce said, God 691 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 3: gave him the answer immediately from the Bible that God 692 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 3: shows uses the weak things, the lowly things, so that 693 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 3: no one may boast before him. The reason why He 694 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 3: saved me was to set the bar so low, to 695 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 3: say that look if I'd save that knucklehead, I'd save anybody. 696 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 3: His experience completely removed his fear of death and gave 697 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 3: him a new purpose to spend the rest of his 698 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 3: life telling people that God is real, that we survive 699 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 3: physical death, and that we are loved. Bruce van Nada 700 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 3: went on to write a book called A Miraculous Life, 701 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 3: True Stories of supernatural Encounters with God. He also created 702 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 3: his own ministry, making a difference for many called sweet 703 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 3: Bread Ministries in Wisconsin. I don't think it matters if 704 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 3: you use the word God, universal consciousness, a divine light. 705 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 3: There's something a light so bright that's undeniable, a feeling 706 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 3: of this unconditional love, and that we're connected to all 707 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 3: of it. These stories from both Bruce and Gary, they 708 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 3: were both liberated from the psychological fear that holds many 709 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 3: of us back. It reminds me of these beautiful words 710 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 3: of the poet RUMI. You are not a drop in 711 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 3: the ocean. You are the entire ocean. In a drop. 712 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 3: We are all vast, eternal, and connected to that same 713 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 3: source of love and miracles that we heard about today. 714 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 3: There's a world of miracles that awaits when we can 715 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,760 Speaker 3: pay attention to what we do have. My friend Greg 716 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 3: told me a mantra he just started using today. I'm 717 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 3: grateful for the life I have while I pursue the 718 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 3: life I desire. So as you pursue that life you desire, 719 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,479 Speaker 3: come visit me, will you, and we Don't Die dot 720 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 3: com come join me on one of our free Sunday gatherings. 721 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 3: It's an inspirational, non denominational service with a medium demonstration included, 722 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 3: and they're super fun. Come fifteen minutes early or so 723 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 3: and say hello. I would love to meet you. Also, 724 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 3: we offer classes. If you don't yet have a copy 725 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 3: of my book We Don't Die, a skeptics Discovery of 726 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 3: Life after Death, and you want a free PDF copy, 727 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 3: just enter your name and email address at the bottom 728 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 3: therewdotdie dot com. So in closing, I'm Sandra Champlain. Remember 729 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 3: you are a divine, eternal being and that consciousness will 730 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 3: keep on, keep it on, even when we leave our bodies. 731 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 3: So thank you so much for listening to Shades of 732 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,720 Speaker 3: the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am 733 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 3: Paranormal podcast Network. 734 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost 735 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 2: Day and Paranormal podcast Network. Make sure and check out 736 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 2: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 737 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:06,439 Speaker 2: to i heart radio dot com. Mm hmm