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Speaker 1: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show. You

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Speaker 1: have got me solo this week as Buck is in Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully China doesn't invade this week. That would be quite

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Speaker 1: the reporting from Buck over there. But in all seriousness,

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Speaker 1: he is in Taiwan. He will be back next week.

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Speaker 2: I've got you.

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Speaker 1: Guys this week solo, as there is a ton of

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Speaker 1: news that is going on right now in real time.

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Speaker 1: I hope all of you had fantastic weekends. I was

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Speaker 1: down in Athens, Georgia, saw the Great Georgia Bulldog team

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Speaker 1: lose its thirty three game home winning streak to Alabama,

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Speaker 1: and also interviewed Paul Finbaum. Will play a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that for you. If you are a college football fan,

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Speaker 1: you certainly know who Paul Finebaum is. He told me

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Speaker 1: in an exclusive sit down interview that he is potentially

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Speaker 1: going to run for senate in Alaha, Babama. That story

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Speaker 1: is going to ricochet around everywhere, and trust me, there's

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Speaker 1: more coming there. We'll maybe get into that a little

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Speaker 1: but let me kind of set the table on all

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Speaker 1: of the craziness and zaniness that is underway right now.

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Speaker 1: President Trump is trying to get a Middle East peace

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Speaker 1: accord relating to Gaza. Nearly two years after the October seventh,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Hamas attack on the innocent people of Israel.

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Speaker 1: The fallout has now continued for nearly two years. The

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Speaker 1: war in the Middle East there has gone on for

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Speaker 1: nearly two years, Net and Yahoo. Right now at the

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Speaker 1: White House meeting with President Trump, there are reports that

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Speaker 1: there is a twenty one point piece packed that the

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Speaker 1: United States is trying to get agreed to by both

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Speaker 1: Hamas and Israel that would bring this or to a close.

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Speaker 2: So that is going on right now.

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Speaker 1: There is potentially and you guys know that I kind

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Speaker 1: of roll my eyes over this because I don't know

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Speaker 1: necessarily that very much changes, but there is potentially going

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Speaker 1: to be a shutdown of the federal government. Some of

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Speaker 1: you are like, Yay, why don't we shut it down

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Speaker 1: more frequently? October first, that would go into effect if

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Speaker 1: we do not get essentially an agreement worked out in

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Speaker 1: then the federal government would shut down. My general proposition

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Speaker 1: on government shutdowns is they've happened so many times over

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Speaker 1: the last twenty five or thirty years that no one

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Speaker 1: really cares that forty years, I guess, going back to

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Speaker 1: the Clinton arrow was the first time I remember the

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Speaker 1: whole government shutdown process turning into a big political issue.

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Speaker 1: Eventually they get a worked out solution, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of people want to tell you that there is going

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Speaker 1: to be substantial drama there. Eric Adams has dropped out

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Speaker 1: of the New York City mayor's race. There are three

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Speaker 1: primary races that are scheduled to take place in a

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Speaker 1: test to see what if anything, has shifted in the

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Speaker 1: one year since Trump was elected as President of the

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Speaker 1: United States. Eric Adams again the current mayor of New

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Speaker 1: Cuomo as the competition running against Mam Donnie Mamdanni is

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Speaker 2: JK. Rolling in terms of the closeness of that race. JK.

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Speaker 1: Rowling, who might be my favorite public celebrity in the

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Speaker 1: world right now, just went scorched Earth nuclear bomb style

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Speaker 1: on Emma Thompson, who played Hermione Granger in all the

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Speaker 1: Harry Potter movies, over trans related issues. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: I just needed Harry Potter author JK. Rowling to jump

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Speaker 1: into did I say, Emma Thompson Emma Watson. Emma Thompson

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Speaker 1: All right, well that's a whiff by me right out

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Speaker 1: of the gate, Emma Watson. I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: Fox and Friends this morning to talk about what we

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Speaker 4: Point in time is that he was a member of

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Speaker 4: get to the bottom of why he committed. There's just

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Speaker 4: this heinous act of violence. It's unfathomable. And as the President.

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Speaker 3: Rightfully put in his true social yesterday, this appears to

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we will continue to monitor that story as well.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: There are tons of different things underway right now, Middle

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Speaker 1: And this is probably the story that got the most

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Speaker 1: Comy actually did an interview with CNN right before he

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Speaker 1: got indicted. This is back in May, saying he was

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Speaker 1: never able to get me. Here is Comy taunting Trump.

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Speaker 1: This is cut eight and again. Two felony indictments in

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Speaker 2: Cut eight.

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Speaker 5: in Maga world it doesn't matter at this point. I'm

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Speaker 5: not sure exactly why that is. I often joke on

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Speaker 5: the relationship that Trump can't get over wakes up in

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Speaker 5: the middle of the night thinking about me and how

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Speaker 5: since then, and then I spoke out about him and

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Speaker 2: Well, a little bit spoke too soon.

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Speaker 1: He should have maybe started to high step into the

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Speaker 1: program and the immediate aftermath of the indictment. This is

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Speaker 1: deep blue Alexandria Virginia. For those who of you who

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Speaker 1: a connected hotspot for the Democrat Party based on his

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Speaker 1: President Trump and got an indictment. Not only did they

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Speaker 1: We also have five points. They went into the bluest

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Speaker 1: the country. And I think this should be hammered home more.

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Speaker 1: I give jd Vance credit here. He's one of the

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Speaker 1: there saying, oh, this is unbelievable, this is unprecedent. We

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Speaker 1: know they're liars. They didn't say anything when they tried

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Speaker 1: sort of unprecedented attack on norms of American life, that's

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Speaker 1: already happened with what Democrats did, but they did it

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Speaker 1: in a rigged jury pool that advantaged them massively. We

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Speaker 1: likely the majority of the people on the grand jury,

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Speaker 1: The vast majority of these grand jurors that indicted James

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Speaker 1: Comey were actually Kamala Biden Obama voters. Here's jd Vance

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Speaker 6: A grand jury indictment delivered in Alexander and Virginia, not

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Speaker 6: exactly a hotbed of Donald Trump's political support. And to

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Speaker 6: the people who are saying that this is all political.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look, if you look at our track record

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Speaker 6: in the Trump administration, there have been people who have

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Speaker 6: been prosecuted who have been political allies who agree with

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Speaker 6: We're not letting politics drive this. We're letting the requirements

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Speaker 6: unfortunately for James Comy, when I look at this indictment,

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Speaker 6: I see a guy who lied under oath, and he'll

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Speaker 6: have his dan court, he'll have his opportunity to prove

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Speaker 1: So I think Jade van' is exactly right now. I

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Speaker 1: still would argue that it's unlikely that we're going to

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Speaker 1: look at the actual facts here. Also, we've got an

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Speaker 1: very favorably disposed towards James Comy. Having said all of that,

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Halligan getting a double indictment here right before the

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Speaker 1: not even necessarily the leaks, but just potentially perjuring himself

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Speaker 1: under testimony in front of Congress. The only ways that

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Speaker 1: out here. How are they going to put this case together.

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Speaker 1: It's a challenging case, it's a challenging judge, it's a

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Speaker 1: challenging jury pool. But Lindsay Halligan getting that indictment where

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Speaker 1: she did up against the timeframe is an incredible accomplishment

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Speaker 2: He's a Kamala voter.

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Speaker 1: He thinks I'm a moron for my politics, but he's

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Speaker 1: It's probably not I surprised. Probably a lot of you

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Speaker 1: didn't know Paul was a Trump voter. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: he was a registered Republican. And I think he's just

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Speaker 1: What happened to Charlie was I think devastating to Paul

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Speaker 1: some of you probably went to church who haven't been

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Speaker 1: And I think there is an awakening that is going

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Speaker 1: Frankly of Paul to come out as being a Trump

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Speaker 1: and this is going to have major shockwaves, So I

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Speaker 1: Welcome in our number three, Clay Travis buck Sexton. Show

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Speaker 1: Buck is in Taiwan, and he is he'll be back

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Speaker 1: next week, but he is as far away almost as

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Speaker 1: either of us had been. I think I went to Australia,

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Speaker 1: but so many different moving stories out there.

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Speaker 2: Buck. We'll be back next week.

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Speaker 1: We are awaiting the press conference, which we will go

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Speaker 1: to live in the event that it happens before the

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Speaker 1: moment with Benjamin net Yahoo and President Trump relating to

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Speaker 2: Obviously very big deal.

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Speaker 1: If you are just now joining us, We've been following

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Speaker 1: a lot of different stories the church attack on the

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Speaker 1: Christian Latter Day Saints facility in Michigan continues to be

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Speaker 1: followed as being looked at as a terror attack. Eric

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Speaker 1: Adams has dropped out of the New York City Mayor's race.

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Speaker 1: Continued fallout from the Komi charges over the course of

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read some more of what she had to

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Speaker 1: say about the situation surrounding trans debate. Do men who

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Speaker 1: real time spinning plates here a little bit to see

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Speaker 1: when or if that White House press availability between net

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Speaker 1: and Yahu and Trump is going to begin. The fine

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Speaker 1: bomb Paul Finebaum news that I have shared with you guys.

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Speaker 1: I'll be on Will Caine Show talking about this on

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Speaker 1: Fox News in a little bit, as there is I

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Speaker 1: think a very real chance that Paul Finbaum of ESPN

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Speaker 1: and the SEC Network is going to soon announce that

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Speaker 1: We played some cuts for you of that, and many

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Speaker 1: of you are continuing to react. Let me hit a

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Speaker 1: couple of your emails that came in directly to me.

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Speaker 1: We had one of our callers down there saying that

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Speaker 2: Note from from one of our listeners. That was awesome.

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Speaker 1: You may not realize the older gentleman eighty nine years

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Speaker 1: old listens to the show every single day. That called

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Speaker 1: keep up the great work. That was positive email Gary

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Speaker 2: You didn't give him much time.

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Speaker 11: Look, I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: All I get is a first name and a state,

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Speaker 1: and so I appreciate him calling.

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Speaker 2: He's welcome to call back anytime. I loved the call.

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Speaker 1: Eighty nine years old say he listens to the show

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Speaker 1: while he's out in his backyard on his swing. That

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Speaker 1: appreciate all of you who are listening all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Dean is upset with me because I said that I

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Speaker 1: Dean from South Florida says he can't be friends with

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Speaker 1: anybody whoever.

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Speaker 2: Voted for a Democrat. FF, I don't.

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Speaker 12: Have any liberal friends. They're just not ethical, they're not moral.

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Speaker 12: I would never be friends with anybody that voted for

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Speaker 12: Hair or sur Biden. These guys are low life scumbags.

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Speaker 12: And if you vote for Trump, I can be friends

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Speaker 1: I disagree. I just I understand some people are like that.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that's what a lot of left wingers do.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones that are more likely, I think, to just.

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Speaker 2: Cut off relations.

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Speaker 1: Oh you voted for Trump, you can't come to Thanksgiving anymore.

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Speaker 1: Oh you won't wear a mask everywhere you go? Good

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Speaker 1: luck coming over for Christmas. I don't think that's healthy.

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Speaker 1: I really don't I've got a ton of friends that

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Speaker 2: So I just I don't.

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Speaker 1: Believe in the idea of cutting people out of your

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Speaker 2: I actually think.

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Speaker 1: We need more people who are willing to be friends

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Speaker 2: Just think about this.

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Speaker 1: I think it's hard to demonize Trump supporters if you,

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Speaker 1: like me, are an admitted Trump supporter, and people in

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Speaker 1: to just this amorphous idea they've created of Oh, the

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Speaker 1: Trump supporters are all dumb, ignorant, stupid, redneck, racist, transphobic, whatever, homophobic,

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Speaker 1: whatever slurs you want, hitler, hitler, nazi bootstepping, awful human beings.

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Speaker 1: I think that you can only believe that if you

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Speaker 1: don't actually know Trump supporters in your life. And I

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Speaker 1: got to tell you, there's lots of people who vote Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Almost every single day I hear from somebody who says,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Clay, I'm a little bit like you.

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Speaker 1: Go back and listen to what Bill Clinton said in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. It is nothing like what the modern

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Speaker 1: a Republican right now, Bill Clinton nineteen ninety six Republican.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's right on every issue, but Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump used to be a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: And then he saw the.

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Speaker 1: Light and started to recognize how crazy everything was going.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump gave money to the Clintons back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Trump is just saying, and there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: us out there that are just saying. And we look

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Speaker 1: around and we say, there's a crazy party and that's

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Speaker 1: the Democrats. And there's the same party and that's the Republicans.

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Speaker 1: It's my opinion, but I bet a lot of you

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Speaker 1: in your lives, you know people who are voting Democrat

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Speaker 1: just because they decided they were on the Democrat team

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Speaker 1: when they were sixteen years old, and they may be

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Speaker 1: sixty six now. And the Democrat Party of fifty years

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Speaker 1: ago is nothing like the Democrat Party today. And every

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Speaker 1: day a few of them see the light. They get

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Speaker 1: red pilled. And I think one way they do it

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Speaker 1: is by interacting with normal, rational, reasonable people who they

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Speaker 1: actually have a moment of thought and think, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: Clay's not crazy, why is he a Trump guy? And

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Speaker 1: they start to work through. Not everybody, but there are

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Speaker 1: enough people out there that start to think that through.

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Speaker 1: And that's how Trump win one in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: That's how he won the popular vote. So I understand

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Speaker 1: the frustration out there of how do they not see

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Speaker 1: everything that I see? This is why I read everything.

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Speaker 1: I am very confident that I could make the arguments

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Speaker 1: they make in the New York Times as good or

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Speaker 1: better than they do.

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Speaker 2: But could too.

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Speaker 1: We are aware of all of their arguments. We're making

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Speaker 1: the ones that we think are better, which is how

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Speaker 1: we ended up a Trump supporter. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: you help your arguments by just running in the corner,

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Speaker 1: covering your ears and being like, I only want to

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Speaker 1: be surrounded by people that agree with me on everything

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Speaker 1: every minute of every day. To me, that's what Democrats do.

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Speaker 1: That's how their party has become toxic. That's how it's

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Speaker 1: become such a shrinking tent. You have to interact with

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Speaker 1: arguments with which you disagree to understand why you agree

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Speaker 1: with the ones that you do. So look, I love

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Speaker 1: the fact that Dean is a listener, but I don't

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Speaker 1: understand and don't think it's helpful to just say what

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Speaker 1: a leftist would. I'm cutting everybody else off who doesn't

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Speaker 1: agree with me one hundred percent on everything. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's healthy. I would never cut off friends or

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Speaker 1: family personally because of their politics, and I wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: you to either. I don't think that's healthy. Moreover, you

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Speaker 1: can't win doing that. The way you win is by

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Speaker 1: expanding your coalition. There aren't enough die hard right wingers

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Speaker 1: to get anybody elected in any competitive state. You have

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Speaker 1: to appeal to reasonable, rational people out there that might

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Speaker 1: be super busy.

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Speaker 2: They got real.

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Speaker 1: Things going on in your life. I got three boys.

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Speaker 1: Do you know how much time we spend scheduling getting

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Speaker 1: those boys to all of their events? I got a

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Speaker 1: ninth grade football game to get to. I really believe

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Speaker 1: that my son's games. It's almost like they're pranking us

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Speaker 1: to try to play the games in the most difficult

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Speaker 1: places to get to at the most difficult place at

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Speaker 1: times five point thirty kickoff an hour and a half

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Speaker 1: from my house. We live in a major American city.

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Speaker 1: There's nowhere they could have gone close. No, we got

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Speaker 1: to drive all over the place. People are busy. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate y'all who are listening every single day and following

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Speaker 1: and being super attentive with the politics of the moment.

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Speaker 1: You guys are what we should want from an enlightened electorate.

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Speaker 1: But if only people knew what was going on every

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Speaker 1: day in the country voted, there wouldn't be very many voters.

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Speaker 1: Most people are really busy trying to get their kids

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Speaker 1: to and from sporting events, trying to make sure they're

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Speaker 1: making enough money to pay off their mortgage. They don't

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Speaker 1: have time to get enmeshed in every issue. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people just vote the way they have for a

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Speaker 1: long time. You gotta be there when suddenly they're tend

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Speaker 1: to go up and they think, for a minute, wait,

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Speaker 1: this doesn't make very much sense. That doesn't sound like

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Speaker 1: something that a Democrat would have said in nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: eight or nineteen ninety eight. In fact, a lot of

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Speaker 1: the arguments Trump's making right now, Democrats made them twenty

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Speaker 1: five thirty years ago. So that's my argument of how

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Speaker 1: you win politics is the art of persuasion. It's about

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Speaker 1: communication and making the right decisions. And if you decide

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Speaker 1: I don't want to communicate with anybody who is persuadable

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Speaker 1: or willing to listen to you, I think you guarantee

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Speaker 1: that you're perpetually in the minority. Chris from Tampa GG

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Speaker 1: what's he got?

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Speaker 13: Hey, Clay? I love you to death, But since you

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Speaker 13: brought it up, you always say you trust people more

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Speaker 13: if they watch football. I trust people less if they

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Speaker 13: watch football, because one minute they're mad at football, the

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Speaker 13: next minute they're not mad at football, and all the

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Speaker 13: crap that football's pulled over to years and sports just

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Speaker 13: in general for the most part. Well, all this protesting

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Speaker 13: and crap, I'm not giving my money to the enemy.

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Speaker 13: Why I say I'm not doing something anymore, I'm not

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Speaker 1: I respect that argument. Here's my argument in the contrary.

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Speaker 1: Then you just give over everything to left wingers. I

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Speaker 1: mean I could have just said, you know what, I'm

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Speaker 1: fed up with what I see from left wing politics.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make arguments anymore. I'm not gonna found

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Speaker 1: out kick, I'm not gonna do this show and try

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Speaker 1: to speak to a larger community. I'm not gonna worry

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Speaker 1: about sports media at all, because they disagree with me,

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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go spend my time doing something else.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the Titans are so bad that

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Speaker 1: a part of me is not watching as much NFL

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Speaker 1: just because my team is the worst in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And I got other things that I would rather do

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Speaker 1: than watch my team get their ass kicked. But we're winning.

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Speaker 1: What you're saying would lead to Oh'riiley Gaines was swimming

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Speaker 1: against a dude pretending to be a chick. She should

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Speaker 1: have just said I'm done with swimming and gone and

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Speaker 1: spent her time doing something else. Well, what about all

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Speaker 1: those other little girls out there. You don't win by

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Speaker 1: abandoning the battlefield. You might feel better, but to me,

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Speaker 1: you're like the kid who takes his ball and goes

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Speaker 1: home when he's getting his ass kicked in a game.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on the gloves and I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 1: punches because I think I'm better at it than the

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Speaker 1: other side. But if I just leve him and leave

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Speaker 1: him alone in the ring, he's gonna raise his arms

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Speaker 1: above the sky and name himself the champion, and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna destroy, in my opinion, American culture, you win by fighting.

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Speaker 1: You don't win by abandoning the battlefield and saying, well,

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Speaker 1: they're mean, I don't agree with some of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm out lace him up, put in your mouth, and

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Speaker 1: start throwing haymakers. That's what I do every day. And

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Speaker 1: I think we've won because we have better arguments. But

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Speaker 1: that requires that you not abandon the battlefield. And so

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Speaker 1: I think the battlefield of culture is what ultimately decides

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Speaker 1: elections in this country. In sports is maybe the foremost battlefield.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why I trust sports fans is because

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Speaker 1: ultimately they're rational. Everybody believes in the scoreboard, and the

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Speaker 1: points up on your side of the scoreboard, eventually the

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Speaker 1: culture changes and Donald Trump wins a popular vote victory.

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Speaker 1: And hopefully we can string several of those together. That's

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Speaker 1: my thought process, and trust me, I spend a lot

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're about

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Speaker 1: to go to the White House where President Trump is

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Speaker 1: speaking alongside of Benjamin net and Yahoo twenty part piece

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Speaker 1: plan for the Middle East. When we jump in here,

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Speaker 1: it's probably going to be complicated, like jumping into the

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Speaker 1: along with you. We may pull out just because it's

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Speaker 1: going to be so complicated and we're jumping in right

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Speaker 1: in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you one thing.

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Speaker 1: In response to some of those callers saying like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to interact with anybody who voted the

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Speaker 1: other way. I don't think you can win that way.

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Speaker 1: Also got a story quickly here as we get ready

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Speaker 1: for Trump. You know what my grandparents did when they retired.

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Speaker 1: Grandfather worked in a factory, his whole life. Grandmother was

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Speaker 1: a school teacher in Georgia. Grandfather was a factory worker

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Speaker 1: in the Chattanooga, Tennessee area. They went to work ministering

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Speaker 1: to prisoners who hadn't found Jesus yet. They set in

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Speaker 1: their homes and wrote letters constantly to prisoners people who

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Speaker 1: were in prison, often for doing very awful things, to

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Speaker 1: try to convince them to find Jesus in their life.

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Speaker 1: Reason why I bring it up? If you are religious,

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Speaker 1: would you ever say I only want to interact with Christians.

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Speaker 1: If you truly believe that the goal of a religion

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Speaker 1: is to save people from eternal damnation, wouldn't you want

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Speaker 1: to focus on trying to save people like my grandparents did.

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Speaker 1: In order to convert, you have to go to the unconverted.

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Speaker 1: It's easy to preach to the choir. It might make

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Speaker 1: you feel better to never be challenged. But real calling

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Speaker 1: is convincing people of something they have not yet realized.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, that's the entire purpose of Christianity, because

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Speaker 1: otherwise Christianity would have ended very quickly.

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Speaker 2: If you said, oh, I'm only.

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Speaker 1: Going to talk to other people who are Christians, then

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Speaker 1: it would have never spread. It would have never turned

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Speaker 1: into the life changing and cultural enrichment that it became.

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Speaker 1: Just think about that. I understand that politics and religion

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Speaker 1: are somewhat different, but just think about that in your

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Speaker 1: own life. If I'm only talking to people who agree

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Speaker 1: with me all the time, how can you change the world,

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Speaker 1: how can you make it better? And what would have

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Speaker 1: only going to talk to people who are already Christians.

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Speaker 1: I don't have time for anybody else. It might make

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Speaker 1: you feel better internally, but it's not changing the world.

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Speaker 2: Trust me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go live right now to what we hope

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Speaker 1: could change the world, which is peace in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: Trump is trying to help make it happen. Benjamin Thatt

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Speaker 8: The leaders of the Arab world and Israel and everybody

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Speaker 8: involved ask me to do this, so it would be

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Speaker 8: headed by a gentleman known as President Donald J.

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Speaker 10: Trump of the United States.

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Speaker 8: It's what I want is some extra work to do,

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00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 8: but it's so important that I'm willing to do.

872
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 10: It, and we'll do it right.

873
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 8: And we're going to put leaders from other countries on

874
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 8: and leaders that are very distinguished leaders.

875
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 10: And we'll have a board and one of the people

876
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 10: that wants to.

877
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 8: Be on the board is the UK former Prime Minister

878
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 8: Tony Blair, good Man, very good man, and some others,

879
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 8: and they'll be named over the next few days and

880
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 8: it'll be quite the board working. Everybody wants to be

881
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Speaker 8: on it.

882
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 10: Now.

883
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 8: I don't know if that had anything to do they

884
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 8: name me and everybody else wanted to be on it.

885
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 8: I guess they figure, well, he's a soft touch, he'll

886
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 8: be easy to deal.

887
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 10: With, working with the World Bank and others.

888
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 8: It will be responsible for recruiting and training a new

889
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 8: government that will be made up of Palestinians along with

890
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 8: highly qualified experts from all around the world. Hamas and

891
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 8: other terrorist factions will play no role in the board,

892
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 8: but they'll play no role in the governance of Gaza

893
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 8: at all, directly or indirectly. As you know, thousands of

894
00:50:54,280 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 8: Hamas leaders have been killed and soldiers killed, and we

895
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 8: can never forget October seventh, but thousands have paid the

896
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 8: price for that. And now it's time to get our

897
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 8: hostages back and get back to trying to build something

898
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 8: that's really great and very important in our meeting today

899
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 8: Prime Minister Netya, who is very clear about his opposition

900
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 8: to a Palestinian state, and he continuously mentions October seventh,

901
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 8: and I understand that most people do, and I understand

902
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 8: and respect his position on many things. But what he's

903
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 8: doing today is so good for Israel. And I noticed

904
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 8: that they have large crowds gathering in Israel all the time,

905
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 8: and they have my name up.

906
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 10: They like me for whatever reason. Maybe I don't know,

907
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 10: but they do like me. But they say two things.

908
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 8: Please get the hostages back and please end the war.

909
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 8: They've had it. So I think it's a very popular

910
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 8: thing you do because he's a warrior that know about

911
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 8: getting back to a normal way of life. But he

912
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 8: is a warrior and Israel is lucky to have him.

913
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 8: But now the people want to get back to peace.

914
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 8: They want to get back to normalization in a true sense.

915
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 8: Several countries have foolish you recognized the Palestinian state. As

916
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 8: you know, some European friends, allies, good people, but they're really,

917
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 8: I think, doing that because they're very tired of what's

918
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 8: going on for so many decades. They've been presidents in

919
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 8: prime ministers for years and during this time having to

920
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 8: do with the Middle East, all they're doing is talking

921
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 8: about the same thing over and over.

922
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 10: They want to see it get back, and.

923
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 8: Nobody wants that more than me or I believe BB two.

924
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 8: But the people of Israel want it, they really want it.

925
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 8: They want the hostages back. That includes the probably thirty

926
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 8: two bodies that we're talking about, twenty people that are living,

927
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 8: thirty two or so people that are dead. And they

928
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 8: want to have peace. So let us not forget how

929
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 8: we got here. Hamas was elected by the Palestinian people.

930
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 8: Israel withdrew from Gaza thinking they would live in peace.

931
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 10: Remember that long time ago. They withdrew.

932
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 8: They said, you take it, this is our contribution to peace.

933
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 8: But that didn't work out. That didn't work out. It

934
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 8: was the opposite of peace. They pulled away. They let

935
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 8: them have it. And I never forgot that because I said,

936
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 8: that doesn't sound like a good deal to me as

937
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 8: a real estate person. I mean, they gave up the ocean,

938
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 8: right ron, They gave up the ocean. They said, who

939
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 8: would do this deal? And it still didn't work out.

940
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 8: They were very generous, actually, and they gave up the

941
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 8: most magnificent peace of land in many ways in the

942
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 8: Middle East, and they said, all we want to do

943
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 8: now is have peace, and.

944
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 10: That request was not honored.

945
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 8: Instead of building a better life for the Palestinians, and

946
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 8: mass diverted resources to build over four hundred miles of

947
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 8: tunnels and terror infrastructure, rocket production facilities, and hit their

948
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 8: military command posts and launch sites in hospital, schools and mosques.

949
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 8: So if you want after them, you'd be after them

950
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 8: and you wouldn't even realize you ended up knocking out

951
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 8: a hospital or school or a mosque.

952
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 10: That terrible, terrible, terrible way to have to fight. No

953
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 10: fighter is good, but that's a real bad one.

954
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 8: So there are many Palestinians who wish to live in peace, many,

955
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 8: many of many.

956
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 10: I've seen so many of them, and they have support.

957
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 8: And I challenge the Palestinians to take responsibility for their destiny,

958
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 8: because that's what we're giving them. We're giving them responsibility

959
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 8: for their destiny. Fully condemned and prohibit terrorism and earn

960
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 8: their way to a brighter future. They don't want the

961
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 8: life that they've had. They've had a rough life with

962
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 8: the moss. If the Palestinian authority does not complete the

963
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 8: reforms that I laid out and my vision for peace

964
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty, they'll have only themselves to blame. We're

965
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 8: giving them an amazing footprint, and they have amazing support

966
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 8: from the leaders of the Arab world and the Muslim world.

967
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 8: Great leaders, These are great leaders. These are unbelievable leaders

968
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 8: that have built great countries and very wealthy countries. What

969
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 8: the future holds for the Palestinians, no one really knows.

970
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 8: But the plan that we put forward today is focused

971
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 8: on ending the war immediately, getting all of our hostages back,

972
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 8: getting everything back, hard to believe when you even say it,

973
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 8: and creating conditions for durable Israeli security and Palestinian success

974
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 8: is rarely. Security is going to be involved. We're going

975
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 8: to help you. We'll be there with you in terms

976
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 8: of helping with security. We want to make sure it works.

977
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 8: We just want to make sure it works. They shouldn't

978
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 8: be a shot fired. Now there will be, I guess,

979
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 8: because that's the way it seems to be, but they

980
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 8: shouldn't have to be within a few days. They shouldn't

981
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 8: have to be a shot fired. And maybe for eternity,

982
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 8: wouldn't that be nice? I hope it's true. I can

983
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 8: tell you the leadership of that region feels that there's

984
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 8: a good chance of it being true.

985
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 10: So this will lead.

986
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 8: To a disagreement that we're talking about, will lead to

987
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 8: a sustainable, long term piece. No president in history has

988
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 8: been a greater friend of the State of Israel than

989
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 8: I have. In addition to negotiating the Abraham Accords, I

990
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 8: like to say it that way because the real people

991
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 8: that's what they call Abraham. I would say Abraham, but

992
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 8: it's so much nicer when you say Abraham.

993
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: All right, that is vintage Trump. Let's pull here, We're

994
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: going to go to a break. Biggest takeaway here is

995
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: that Trump is putting the onus on Hamas. He said,

996
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: quote if accepted by Hamas, this proposal calls for the

997
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: release of all remaining hostages immediately, but in no case

998
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: more than seventy two hours.

999
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 2: The hostages are coming back. But if they do not agree.

1000
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: To this, he is saying, basically, you're gonna have to

1001
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: deal with net and Yahoo, essentially Hamas and the people

1002
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: of Gaza. This is my last best offer, and it's

1003
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,479
Speaker 1: time to accept it. We'll continue to monitor. We'll grab

1004
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: you a couple of clips as we are going to

1005
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: break here. This is all happening in real time. Trump

1006
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: trying as many presidents before him have and frankly, as

1007
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: every president before him so far has failed to create

1008
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: a form of lasting peace in the Middle East. Is

1009
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1010
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,960
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1011
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