1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:08,308 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,348 --> 00:00:27,988 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. Person is a category. 4 00:00:27,988 --> 00:00:30,908 Speaker 3: That's what you chose, r ST, L, N E. We 5 00:00:30,948 --> 00:00:34,548 Speaker 3: always start with those letters, the common ones. We'll get 6 00:00:34,548 --> 00:00:37,428 Speaker 3: those out there. Ask our audience. This is obviously very 7 00:00:37,468 --> 00:00:39,468 Speaker 3: important here, so very quiet as. 8 00:00:39,308 --> 00:00:41,108 Speaker 4: We go through this kind Let's do it all on his. 9 00:00:41,108 --> 00:00:44,308 Speaker 3: Own, starting with three more consonants and one more vowel. 10 00:00:44,948 --> 00:00:49,828 Speaker 5: Okay, I would like a P. How about an H, 11 00:00:51,188 --> 00:00:54,788 Speaker 5: a G and a vowel? Man, how about an O? 12 00:00:55,868 --> 00:00:58,108 Speaker 3: All right, let's see how this works out for you again, 13 00:00:58,508 --> 00:01:01,508 Speaker 3: nothing from you, folks, your fellow players looking on, rooting 14 00:01:01,508 --> 00:01:02,228 Speaker 3: for you as well. 15 00:01:02,868 --> 00:01:05,748 Speaker 2: Boy, let's see you know you can do this. 16 00:01:06,268 --> 00:01:07,868 Speaker 5: Yes I can. Pat, I'm going to do it. He 17 00:01:07,908 --> 00:01:08,508 Speaker 5: already knows. 18 00:01:09,148 --> 00:01:10,228 Speaker 2: Person, Just do it. 19 00:01:11,428 --> 00:01:12,868 Speaker 5: Wonderful human being. 20 00:01:19,988 --> 00:01:24,388 Speaker 6: Oh my good boy, that was our boy, Kyle Brant 21 00:01:24,588 --> 00:01:28,868 Speaker 6: doing the good and Wheel of Fortune. Welcome to Good 22 00:01:28,908 --> 00:01:31,108 Speaker 6: Morning Football, guys. But Kyle Brant was on Wheel Fortune 23 00:01:31,148 --> 00:01:35,668 Speaker 6: last night. Jason myself, Jamie's out today, Kyle's in, guys. 24 00:01:35,668 --> 00:01:39,748 Speaker 6: Not to spoil anything here, Kyle. I mean I've seen 25 00:01:39,868 --> 00:01:43,668 Speaker 6: I've seen Jordan put up fifty five in the garden. 26 00:01:44,188 --> 00:01:46,628 Speaker 5: I've seen, I've seen seen. 27 00:01:47,308 --> 00:01:50,548 Speaker 6: I've seen Kobe go eighty one against the round in sanity. 28 00:01:50,788 --> 00:01:55,748 Speaker 6: I've seen Li sanity, Jason, Kyle Brant just dominated wheel 29 00:01:55,748 --> 00:01:58,828 Speaker 6: Fortune last night. One hundred and sixty thousand dollars you 30 00:01:58,908 --> 00:02:00,468 Speaker 6: won for Make a Wish Foundation. 31 00:02:00,148 --> 00:02:02,388 Speaker 5: One hundred and sixty nine make a list? 32 00:02:02,508 --> 00:02:04,148 Speaker 4: Did it right? Right? 33 00:02:04,428 --> 00:02:06,628 Speaker 5: Peter, take a lap one sixty nine to five for that. 34 00:02:07,028 --> 00:02:09,588 Speaker 6: One of the most dominant hours of television I've seen, 35 00:02:09,628 --> 00:02:11,108 Speaker 6: and I've seen a lot of dominant hours. 36 00:02:11,188 --> 00:02:15,188 Speaker 5: Kyle. Just thank you, unbelievable, thank you. It was for charity. 37 00:02:15,748 --> 00:02:19,108 Speaker 7: Let anybody else get any of the puzzles, Jason, if you. 38 00:02:19,108 --> 00:02:19,868 Speaker 5: Want to get right to that. 39 00:02:19,948 --> 00:02:21,948 Speaker 1: I did have a feeling of guilt about my fellow 40 00:02:21,948 --> 00:02:24,948 Speaker 1: contestants that they weren't lying in their pocket. I gotta say, though, 41 00:02:24,948 --> 00:02:27,908 Speaker 1: the final puzzle that I just solve, it's a little unfair. 42 00:02:28,028 --> 00:02:30,428 Speaker 1: It's wonderful human being to have it be about the 43 00:02:30,468 --> 00:02:33,028 Speaker 1: person Vana White, who's standing right there. Obviously, I'm just 44 00:02:33,028 --> 00:02:34,748 Speaker 1: looking at vanm like, well, it's wonderful human being. It 45 00:02:34,788 --> 00:02:37,188 Speaker 1: was simple, very quickly, and we're going to get into 46 00:02:37,188 --> 00:02:38,988 Speaker 1: some browns. We're gonna get all kinds of things. Jamie 47 00:02:39,068 --> 00:02:42,668 Speaker 1: Ardall is not here today, hopefully back tomorrow. Jason was 48 00:02:42,708 --> 00:02:45,108 Speaker 1: watching that clip you go RSTLNE. They give you that 49 00:02:45,228 --> 00:02:46,908 Speaker 1: you ever watch Wheel and then you have three letters 50 00:02:46,908 --> 00:02:49,708 Speaker 1: and a constant. I said, PHG and O. Now that 51 00:02:49,748 --> 00:02:51,748 Speaker 1: may seem like a strange combination. 52 00:02:51,588 --> 00:02:52,468 Speaker 5: Guys, I did the work. 53 00:02:52,628 --> 00:02:55,108 Speaker 1: I did a lot of research and a lot of practice. 54 00:02:55,108 --> 00:02:56,708 Speaker 1: And I read a New York Times article from a 55 00:02:56,748 --> 00:02:59,548 Speaker 1: mathematician who did the analytics on Wheel of Fortune, and 56 00:02:59,588 --> 00:03:01,668 Speaker 1: they said they watched like a thousand episodes, and they 57 00:03:01,668 --> 00:03:03,948 Speaker 1: said the most common letters that come up in the 58 00:03:03,988 --> 00:03:06,908 Speaker 1: bonus round are phgn O. It's called pa hog and 59 00:03:06,948 --> 00:03:08,588 Speaker 1: I would pH you know, they will pass the smell 60 00:03:08,628 --> 00:03:08,988 Speaker 1: test m y. 61 00:03:09,028 --> 00:03:10,188 Speaker 5: I would never pick those letters. 62 00:03:10,588 --> 00:03:13,028 Speaker 1: So I got to both bonus rounds PhD and O 63 00:03:13,148 --> 00:03:13,708 Speaker 1: with pa hog. 64 00:03:13,828 --> 00:03:15,828 Speaker 5: Here's the funny thing, and I'll bring it back to football. 65 00:03:16,268 --> 00:03:18,868 Speaker 1: So after we do our whole episode, I go back 66 00:03:18,908 --> 00:03:21,188 Speaker 1: into the makeup room. It's so many pictures on the 67 00:03:21,228 --> 00:03:23,148 Speaker 1: lot there. I just want to say thank you. Everyone's 68 00:03:23,188 --> 00:03:25,108 Speaker 1: great time, see you later. I go in, I see 69 00:03:25,108 --> 00:03:27,348 Speaker 1: this big old cowboy sitting down on the makeup chair. 70 00:03:27,428 --> 00:03:30,468 Speaker 1: It's Jared Allen. Jared now on the legendary pass Rusher. 71 00:03:30,588 --> 00:03:33,028 Speaker 1: He's on the next episode they're gonna shoot. So I 72 00:03:33,108 --> 00:03:35,908 Speaker 1: go up to Jared and I'm, you know, shaking hands everything. 73 00:03:35,908 --> 00:03:38,548 Speaker 1: He knows the show and everything, and I said, yeah, 74 00:03:38,628 --> 00:03:40,308 Speaker 1: you know. I said, do you have a strategy, like 75 00:03:40,348 --> 00:03:42,028 Speaker 1: if you get the bonus round, like, do you know 76 00:03:42,068 --> 00:03:44,028 Speaker 1: what letters you're gonna pick? And Joe goes pea hog 77 00:03:45,348 --> 00:03:48,228 Speaker 1: I go, you didn't work, Jared, p hog Yeah, man, 78 00:03:48,348 --> 00:03:51,348 Speaker 1: And then if you watch Jared clean up on this too, 79 00:03:51,508 --> 00:03:54,228 Speaker 1: p hog phog all the way. 80 00:03:54,108 --> 00:03:56,268 Speaker 5: To the bank for that charity. Guys, there's so many, awesome, 81 00:03:56,348 --> 00:03:56,828 Speaker 5: so many. 82 00:03:57,348 --> 00:03:57,908 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. 83 00:03:58,068 --> 00:03:59,788 Speaker 6: We were holding on a text change is all of 84 00:03:59,868 --> 00:04:04,468 Speaker 6: us beaming one hundred and sixty nine dollars to make 85 00:04:04,508 --> 00:04:05,188 Speaker 6: a Wish Foundation. 86 00:04:05,308 --> 00:04:07,508 Speaker 2: You can make all the jokes. That is as cool 87 00:04:07,548 --> 00:04:08,908 Speaker 2: as it gets you. We're so proud of here. 88 00:04:08,908 --> 00:04:11,348 Speaker 5: Thank you. We'll get more into this. 89 00:04:11,428 --> 00:04:13,028 Speaker 1: We have other clips like if you're watching a home 90 00:04:13,068 --> 00:04:14,628 Speaker 1: I know a lot of Gomny football fans are watching 91 00:04:14,668 --> 00:04:17,068 Speaker 1: last night, those comedy filple fans know that we're always 92 00:04:17,108 --> 00:04:19,788 Speaker 1: presented by old Trapper Beef Jerky most importantly, and. 93 00:04:19,708 --> 00:04:21,148 Speaker 5: We love old trapper beef Jerky. 94 00:04:21,228 --> 00:04:23,788 Speaker 1: All right, the wheel of fortune is being spun right now, 95 00:04:23,908 --> 00:04:25,148 Speaker 1: misfortune on the Cleveland Browns. 96 00:04:25,148 --> 00:04:26,108 Speaker 5: We saw what happened yesterday. 97 00:04:26,108 --> 00:04:27,988 Speaker 1: We're on the show, middle of the show and the 98 00:04:28,028 --> 00:04:31,028 Speaker 1: news breaks about DeShawn and he's out like a lightning bolt. 99 00:04:31,028 --> 00:04:33,228 Speaker 1: We had no idea it was coming. So then, all right, 100 00:04:33,268 --> 00:04:35,788 Speaker 1: so we start talking all of us. PJ Walker, PJ Walker, 101 00:04:36,028 --> 00:04:38,468 Speaker 1: he's going to take over for Cleveland. No, they're not 102 00:04:38,628 --> 00:04:40,988 Speaker 1: going with PJ Walker. Lit of surprise here, Peter, who 103 00:04:41,028 --> 00:04:41,548 Speaker 1: they going with? 104 00:04:41,708 --> 00:04:43,548 Speaker 2: They're going with D t R. 105 00:04:43,788 --> 00:04:48,308 Speaker 6: Glorian Thompson, Robinson, and yesterday Kevin Stefans, GM Andrew Berry 106 00:04:48,348 --> 00:04:50,908 Speaker 6: went to the podium to discuss their plans moving forward. 107 00:04:51,868 --> 00:04:54,148 Speaker 8: Every week, you're trying to just make the best decisions 108 00:04:54,188 --> 00:04:56,428 Speaker 8: you can for your team. I want to give him 109 00:04:56,428 --> 00:04:58,428 Speaker 8: a week where he knows he's a starter. It's a 110 00:04:58,428 --> 00:05:02,388 Speaker 8: full week of preparation. Young player works very hard. Gave 111 00:05:02,468 --> 00:05:04,268 Speaker 8: him a scout team game ball last week with his 112 00:05:04,428 --> 00:05:08,828 Speaker 8: His work is pripping our defense for the Ravens. So 113 00:05:08,868 --> 00:05:11,428 Speaker 8: he's gotten better and better. I think in practice it 114 00:05:11,748 --> 00:05:14,828 Speaker 8: works very hard. He'll never be about one person again. 115 00:05:14,868 --> 00:05:19,308 Speaker 8: We're devastating. We're disappointed for DeShawn, but we're excited about 116 00:05:19,308 --> 00:05:21,388 Speaker 8: what lays in front of us because we have an 117 00:05:21,388 --> 00:05:22,828 Speaker 8: opportunity to finish the job. 118 00:05:24,748 --> 00:05:26,508 Speaker 5: Okay, so listen, they're not out of the thing. 119 00:05:26,548 --> 00:05:27,828 Speaker 1: They have a great six and three record, but they 120 00:05:27,908 --> 00:05:29,508 Speaker 1: got this rookie who's going to start right now for 121 00:05:29,508 --> 00:05:30,308 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. 122 00:05:30,508 --> 00:05:31,908 Speaker 5: We immediately remembered at the. 123 00:05:31,868 --> 00:05:35,428 Speaker 1: Table the Hall of Fame game, first preseason game, Canton, Ohio. 124 00:05:35,628 --> 00:05:39,148 Speaker 1: It's Brown's Jets. It was this big Rogers thing where 125 00:05:39,148 --> 00:05:41,868 Speaker 1: he's visiting Canton and walking through the busts. All the 126 00:05:41,948 --> 00:05:44,348 Speaker 1: chatter right now. Can you believe DeMarcus Ware sung the 127 00:05:44,428 --> 00:05:47,788 Speaker 1: national anthem last night? It was incredible. While this highlight's 128 00:05:47,788 --> 00:05:50,028 Speaker 1: going to be going, as we're watching Rodgers sign and autographs, 129 00:05:50,308 --> 00:05:52,708 Speaker 1: Rogers is doing the in game interview with Drico and 130 00:05:52,748 --> 00:05:55,428 Speaker 1: he's raving about this guy because he's a California kid 131 00:05:55,428 --> 00:05:57,988 Speaker 1: from UCLA And I remember the next stage just and 132 00:05:58,028 --> 00:05:59,628 Speaker 1: we were freaking out about stuff like this. 133 00:06:00,028 --> 00:06:01,148 Speaker 5: He was just unbelievable. 134 00:06:01,188 --> 00:06:04,068 Speaker 7: He was outside of the pocket, inside the pocket, making throws, 135 00:06:04,108 --> 00:06:06,788 Speaker 7: running all around the field. Now at this point, we're like, 136 00:06:06,868 --> 00:06:09,988 Speaker 7: dtr should he just beat a backup for Deshaun Watson. 137 00:06:10,268 --> 00:06:13,828 Speaker 1: The end of this call, Tarrico says, So the rookie 138 00:06:13,948 --> 00:06:17,148 Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robina has put himself on the radar. 139 00:06:17,628 --> 00:06:18,988 Speaker 5: This is way back in August. 140 00:06:18,988 --> 00:06:21,108 Speaker 1: The Browns went on to win whatever, but he looked 141 00:06:21,148 --> 00:06:24,108 Speaker 1: good and he flashed and now, guys, he is starting 142 00:06:24,108 --> 00:06:25,708 Speaker 1: for a six and three team with the shots to 143 00:06:25,748 --> 00:06:26,668 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. 144 00:06:27,268 --> 00:06:28,908 Speaker 5: Speaking of the playoffs, here we are. 145 00:06:29,228 --> 00:06:32,748 Speaker 1: We are mid November AFC playoff picture, Peter, what do 146 00:06:32,788 --> 00:06:33,188 Speaker 1: you think. 147 00:06:33,148 --> 00:06:34,788 Speaker 6: You look at the Chiefs they're sitting there and the 148 00:06:34,868 --> 00:06:36,908 Speaker 6: Ravens are seven and three. But you look at those 149 00:06:36,948 --> 00:06:39,828 Speaker 6: last two columns wild card and lurking, and it is 150 00:06:39,828 --> 00:06:41,788 Speaker 6: wide open. We don't even have the Jets in there. 151 00:06:41,748 --> 00:06:43,748 Speaker 6: We're gonna have the Broncos in there. Those teams are 152 00:06:43,788 --> 00:06:44,388 Speaker 6: alive too. 153 00:06:44,748 --> 00:06:47,548 Speaker 2: It's anybody's race as we head towards week. 154 00:06:47,348 --> 00:06:49,868 Speaker 1: Eleven, j Mac so they're going with a rookie, They 155 00:06:49,868 --> 00:06:52,228 Speaker 1: have a great defense, they have a great record. 156 00:06:52,308 --> 00:06:55,108 Speaker 5: Where do you land on this for rookie right now? 157 00:06:55,268 --> 00:06:57,348 Speaker 7: You think about it, and Andrew Berry said it the 158 00:06:57,388 --> 00:06:59,948 Speaker 7: general manager. The first time that he got a chance 159 00:06:59,988 --> 00:07:01,828 Speaker 7: to play was against the Ravens, and it was a 160 00:07:01,908 --> 00:07:04,428 Speaker 7: chance where they were expecting Deshaun Watson to play in 161 00:07:04,468 --> 00:07:07,548 Speaker 7: that game, and we're leading up that week beforehand, and 162 00:07:07,588 --> 00:07:10,468 Speaker 7: for Darian Thompson Robinson, you're preparing, yes, but as a 163 00:07:10,468 --> 00:07:13,588 Speaker 7: backup quarterback, it's totally different when you're the guy and 164 00:07:13,708 --> 00:07:16,388 Speaker 7: mentally of going throughout the course of the week watching 165 00:07:16,388 --> 00:07:19,188 Speaker 7: the film, getting the reps every day in practice, and 166 00:07:19,228 --> 00:07:21,948 Speaker 7: not only that from a game plan standpoint, for the 167 00:07:21,988 --> 00:07:24,788 Speaker 7: coaching staff, as you're getting ready for the week, when 168 00:07:24,828 --> 00:07:27,228 Speaker 7: you know you have a rookie starting quarterback, you're finding 169 00:07:27,268 --> 00:07:29,948 Speaker 7: ways to make it easier for him. When you're expecting 170 00:07:29,948 --> 00:07:32,748 Speaker 7: Deshaun Watson to be there on Sunday, you're acting dtr 171 00:07:32,828 --> 00:07:35,268 Speaker 7: in practice to just run the reps that you're eventually 172 00:07:35,268 --> 00:07:38,068 Speaker 7: hoping your veteran's going to be in there dictating, so 173 00:07:38,108 --> 00:07:40,028 Speaker 7: there may be checks at the line of scrimmage, different 174 00:07:40,068 --> 00:07:42,508 Speaker 7: things of that nature. Whereas for the rookie, you're just 175 00:07:42,548 --> 00:07:44,308 Speaker 7: trying to make it as simple as possible, let them 176 00:07:44,388 --> 00:07:47,068 Speaker 7: use his athleticism and get out there and go play 177 00:07:47,108 --> 00:07:48,468 Speaker 7: the game. So I think that's going to be one 178 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:50,748 Speaker 7: of the biggest things as they go into this week 179 00:07:50,988 --> 00:07:53,108 Speaker 7: this is a division game they're playing against the Steelers 180 00:07:53,148 --> 00:07:54,828 Speaker 7: and trying to prepare him to get ready to go. 181 00:07:54,908 --> 00:07:56,508 Speaker 7: It's like, all right, well now it's your time to 182 00:07:56,548 --> 00:07:59,068 Speaker 7: Shaun and we know that. So and they also said 183 00:07:59,148 --> 00:08:02,468 Speaker 7: throughout the last couple of weeks he's impressed them throughout practice. 184 00:08:02,668 --> 00:08:04,308 Speaker 7: Was a Scout Team player of the week as we 185 00:08:04,388 --> 00:08:06,748 Speaker 7: Because they prepare for their game against the Ravens, now, 186 00:08:06,948 --> 00:08:09,228 Speaker 7: if that's all right, now, go lead us down the line. 187 00:08:09,388 --> 00:08:11,788 Speaker 7: It's a totally different thing because as I look at it, 188 00:08:11,828 --> 00:08:14,908 Speaker 7: this Pittsburgh Steelers defense is no joke. And not only that, 189 00:08:15,188 --> 00:08:18,188 Speaker 7: Mike Tomlin his record against rookie quarterbacks and what he's 190 00:08:18,188 --> 00:08:20,148 Speaker 7: been able to do. You look at that right there, 191 00:08:20,308 --> 00:08:22,628 Speaker 7: five and twenty four the amount of touchdown passes and 192 00:08:22,668 --> 00:08:25,868 Speaker 7: interception ratio they've been able to go out there and dominate. 193 00:08:25,948 --> 00:08:28,668 Speaker 7: The funny thing is they've been able to win ten 194 00:08:28,708 --> 00:08:31,748 Speaker 7: out of their last eleven. That one rookie quarterback that 195 00:08:31,828 --> 00:08:35,028 Speaker 7: beat CJ. Strout that was this year when he put 196 00:08:35,028 --> 00:08:38,588 Speaker 7: out there dominating performance against the Pittsburgh Steelers. So for 197 00:08:38,708 --> 00:08:40,788 Speaker 7: DTR is going to be a tough road ahead. You're 198 00:08:40,788 --> 00:08:42,548 Speaker 7: going against a really good defense and your a rookie 199 00:08:42,588 --> 00:08:45,148 Speaker 7: quarterback going against a Mike Tomlin led team. So it's 200 00:08:45,148 --> 00:08:46,868 Speaker 7: going to be fascinating to see how he's able to 201 00:08:46,868 --> 00:08:47,188 Speaker 7: come out. 202 00:08:47,428 --> 00:08:49,228 Speaker 1: I think fans at Homer saying, well, that's cute. You 203 00:08:49,268 --> 00:08:51,788 Speaker 1: showed that preseason game. Now do the Ravens one where 204 00:08:51,788 --> 00:08:53,748 Speaker 1: he started a real game and through three interceptions and 205 00:08:53,788 --> 00:08:54,348 Speaker 1: got crushed. 206 00:08:54,388 --> 00:08:55,388 Speaker 5: Where are we at with this kid? 207 00:08:55,508 --> 00:08:57,588 Speaker 6: And then then he found out minutes before the game 208 00:08:57,588 --> 00:08:59,308 Speaker 6: that like, okay, actually he's going to be an. 209 00:08:59,188 --> 00:09:01,508 Speaker 2: Active he worked out. Well, yeah, it was maybe the 210 00:09:01,588 --> 00:09:05,428 Speaker 2: least ideal situation for a rookie or back to two. 211 00:09:05,508 --> 00:09:08,068 Speaker 2: He did not, you know, have a full week of practice. 212 00:09:08,068 --> 00:09:09,988 Speaker 2: He didn't know that. They thought Watson was gonna go. 213 00:09:10,028 --> 00:09:13,028 Speaker 6: And then before the game Watson was told it was 214 00:09:13,068 --> 00:09:14,828 Speaker 6: told by the trainers like you're not going, and Watson 215 00:09:14,828 --> 00:09:16,468 Speaker 6: did not play, so they threw him into the fire. 216 00:09:16,548 --> 00:09:18,508 Speaker 5: They thought he was gonna be justin Herbert against the Chief. 217 00:09:18,588 --> 00:09:21,188 Speaker 6: It wasn't that, And I don't think at the time 218 00:09:21,188 --> 00:09:24,548 Speaker 6: anyone really before I remember I was sitting on the 219 00:09:24,588 --> 00:09:27,988 Speaker 6: sidelines before Commander's Eagles, That's how early it was in Philly, 220 00:09:27,988 --> 00:09:29,668 Speaker 6: and I remember getting the news like, oh, Watson's not 221 00:09:29,708 --> 00:09:31,388 Speaker 6: playing and dt RS got to play. 222 00:09:31,428 --> 00:09:32,148 Speaker 2: That's unfortunate. 223 00:09:32,228 --> 00:09:34,908 Speaker 6: And then the Ravens, you know, seized on it. And 224 00:09:34,908 --> 00:09:38,348 Speaker 6: here's the interesting part about this whole story, you know. 225 00:09:38,388 --> 00:09:40,428 Speaker 6: So we're showing that Hall of Fame footage and that's awesome, 226 00:09:40,468 --> 00:09:41,948 Speaker 6: and that was like we came in the next day, 227 00:09:41,948 --> 00:09:42,228 Speaker 6: we were. 228 00:09:42,148 --> 00:09:44,068 Speaker 2: All raving and we have me talking about how great 229 00:09:44,108 --> 00:09:44,228 Speaker 2: it is. 230 00:09:44,268 --> 00:09:45,588 Speaker 5: I don't want to show that's what we do in August. 231 00:09:45,588 --> 00:09:46,108 Speaker 2: I don't want to talk. 232 00:09:46,148 --> 00:09:47,908 Speaker 6: I don't want to show that because it's just it's 233 00:09:48,148 --> 00:09:50,068 Speaker 6: you're not going to show it. No, I haven't set up, 234 00:09:50,068 --> 00:09:53,188 Speaker 6: but we're not gonna shot it. Instead, I'm reading the 235 00:09:53,308 --> 00:09:56,788 Speaker 6: article from Mary Kay Cabot that morning that you know, 236 00:09:56,868 --> 00:09:59,148 Speaker 6: number two quarterback Josh Jobs is actually not going to 237 00:09:59,228 --> 00:10:01,268 Speaker 6: play in the Hall of Fame game. He's gonna say 238 00:10:01,308 --> 00:10:02,628 Speaker 6: this one out so they're gonna get a better look 239 00:10:02,668 --> 00:10:06,148 Speaker 6: at Kellen Bond And so Dobbs doesn't play in the 240 00:10:06,148 --> 00:10:08,068 Speaker 6: Hall of Fame game. Think about the sliding doors here, 241 00:10:08,348 --> 00:10:12,468 Speaker 6: dtr goes lights it up. Josh Dobbs the Browns quarterback 242 00:10:12,628 --> 00:10:14,988 Speaker 6: all training camp. He's their number two. He's the veteran 243 00:10:15,068 --> 00:10:18,748 Speaker 6: voice behind Deshaun Watson. He's there all August, eight days 244 00:10:18,748 --> 00:10:19,908 Speaker 6: before the start of the season. 245 00:10:20,188 --> 00:10:21,148 Speaker 2: They trade him. 246 00:10:21,148 --> 00:10:24,468 Speaker 6: For nothing to the Arizona Cardinals, a late pick because 247 00:10:24,468 --> 00:10:27,268 Speaker 6: of Drew Petsing. It was the OC and was the 248 00:10:27,308 --> 00:10:31,028 Speaker 6: quarterbacks coach in Cleveland with Stefanski, and he now is 249 00:10:31,148 --> 00:10:32,108 Speaker 6: in Arizona. 250 00:10:32,148 --> 00:10:33,708 Speaker 2: He knows the language Fins. He goes there. 251 00:10:34,308 --> 00:10:38,308 Speaker 6: Trade deadline comes along, Arizona trades him for next to 252 00:10:38,348 --> 00:10:41,988 Speaker 6: nothing to Minnesota because Minnesota needed to get some veteran 253 00:10:42,068 --> 00:10:43,748 Speaker 6: quarterback because Kirk Cousins was down. 254 00:10:44,628 --> 00:10:48,148 Speaker 9: Did the Browns drop the ball, knowing that Watson was 255 00:10:48,388 --> 00:10:51,268 Speaker 9: dealing with injuries the last several weeks, not going for 256 00:10:51,388 --> 00:10:54,268 Speaker 9: Josh Dobbs as the trade deadline, did the Browns sit 257 00:10:54,308 --> 00:10:55,708 Speaker 9: on their hands, say, hey, wait, this guy was with 258 00:10:55,788 --> 00:10:58,508 Speaker 9: us all training camp, he's with us all summer. 259 00:10:58,908 --> 00:11:01,868 Speaker 2: He knows the entire offense and we're just gonna roll 260 00:11:01,908 --> 00:11:02,708 Speaker 2: with the Shawn. 261 00:11:02,468 --> 00:11:05,948 Speaker 6: Watson and Dorian Thompson, Dorian Thompson, Robson and maybe PJ. 262 00:11:06,108 --> 00:11:06,428 Speaker 2: Walker. 263 00:11:07,348 --> 00:11:07,788 Speaker 5: I don't know. 264 00:11:07,868 --> 00:11:09,628 Speaker 2: To me, this might be a great what if. 265 00:11:09,748 --> 00:11:13,188 Speaker 6: Like at the trade deadline, instead of the Vikings giving 266 00:11:13,228 --> 00:11:15,188 Speaker 6: up what was a seventh round pick to go get 267 00:11:15,268 --> 00:11:18,628 Speaker 6: Josh Dobbs about the Browns just getting an insurance policy, saying, well, 268 00:11:18,668 --> 00:11:20,948 Speaker 6: Watson has been hurt and missed multiple games. 269 00:11:20,948 --> 00:11:22,548 Speaker 2: Maybe we pick up Dobbs for next to nothing. 270 00:11:22,588 --> 00:11:24,428 Speaker 6: That's just a thought. As Dobbs is lighting up the 271 00:11:24,548 --> 00:11:25,668 Speaker 6: NFL in purple right now. 272 00:11:25,828 --> 00:11:28,788 Speaker 1: Well, maybe they really liked this on DTR and they're like, 273 00:11:28,948 --> 00:11:30,628 Speaker 1: you know, we like Josh, we have a relationship with them, 274 00:11:30,668 --> 00:11:31,908 Speaker 1: but DTR has been really good. 275 00:11:32,108 --> 00:11:33,788 Speaker 5: I think we were surprised. We thought it was Gon PJ. 276 00:11:33,868 --> 00:11:36,268 Speaker 1: Walker and they didn't. They went with it otherwise. You know, 277 00:11:36,348 --> 00:11:38,668 Speaker 1: I tried to make this. I do what we do here, 278 00:11:38,708 --> 00:11:41,548 Speaker 1: We try to be positive. So when Deshaun Watson's out yesterday, 279 00:11:41,548 --> 00:11:42,988 Speaker 1: I did this whole thing about hold on, they're six 280 00:11:43,028 --> 00:11:45,108 Speaker 1: and three. I think going four and for the rest 281 00:11:45,108 --> 00:11:46,668 Speaker 1: of the way, I think you can really reasonably get 282 00:11:46,668 --> 00:11:47,468 Speaker 1: a wildcard spot. 283 00:11:47,628 --> 00:11:48,668 Speaker 5: And I put that on Twitter. 284 00:11:48,868 --> 00:11:51,308 Speaker 1: I sympathized with the Browns fans because the general reaction 285 00:11:51,388 --> 00:11:54,108 Speaker 1: that I got is, you're right, but we were really 286 00:11:54,108 --> 00:11:56,308 Speaker 1: thinking Super Bowl this year, like we don't want to 287 00:11:56,348 --> 00:11:58,428 Speaker 1: go and losing the wildcard round, and I hear you, 288 00:11:58,748 --> 00:12:00,788 Speaker 1: they had the makings of a team that oh my god. 289 00:12:00,828 --> 00:12:02,428 Speaker 1: At the end of FED the Browns are in the 290 00:12:02,468 --> 00:12:04,668 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They got there with this defense. To me, 291 00:12:04,788 --> 00:12:07,428 Speaker 1: this is not as much of a Brown story as 292 00:12:07,428 --> 00:12:09,108 Speaker 1: it is an AFC Wildcard story. 293 00:12:09,188 --> 00:12:10,348 Speaker 5: Peter, you said this yesterday. 294 00:12:10,348 --> 00:12:12,748 Speaker 1: The playoff picture is way more interesting because you have 295 00:12:12,828 --> 00:12:15,548 Speaker 1: a six and three team that is badly wounded, and 296 00:12:15,628 --> 00:12:18,748 Speaker 1: these other teams, be it the Colts or now the Bengals, 297 00:12:18,788 --> 00:12:20,708 Speaker 1: or teams that are suffering like the Bills or the 298 00:12:20,748 --> 00:12:23,508 Speaker 1: Texans or the Jaguars, are like, let's get the wounded 299 00:12:23,548 --> 00:12:25,588 Speaker 1: animal and let's go take that. I think this has 300 00:12:25,628 --> 00:12:28,628 Speaker 1: ripple effects for other teams trying to get in and 301 00:12:28,828 --> 00:12:30,548 Speaker 1: I just don't know if the Browns could keep this up. 302 00:12:30,588 --> 00:12:31,868 Speaker 5: Four and four is what it's gonna take. 303 00:12:31,908 --> 00:12:34,588 Speaker 1: That's a taller I mean, there's the Steelers not going 304 00:12:34,668 --> 00:12:36,348 Speaker 1: to just attack the hell out of him from get 305 00:12:36,348 --> 00:12:37,628 Speaker 1: go with that defense. 306 00:12:37,348 --> 00:12:38,668 Speaker 7: No doubt about it, And you're going to try to 307 00:12:38,708 --> 00:12:41,588 Speaker 7: disguise and do different things because you can say, all right, now, 308 00:12:41,588 --> 00:12:43,428 Speaker 7: he's getting a week leading up. But we saw him 309 00:12:43,428 --> 00:12:45,308 Speaker 7: in a Ravens game and it was a lot. It 310 00:12:45,348 --> 00:12:47,188 Speaker 7: was a lot for him to handle in strike. So 311 00:12:47,268 --> 00:12:49,388 Speaker 7: your point, you talk about the Josh Dobbs is kind 312 00:12:49,388 --> 00:12:51,668 Speaker 7: of surprising because when PJ. Walker was in there, they 313 00:12:51,668 --> 00:12:53,268 Speaker 7: beat the forty nine ers, they were able to beat 314 00:12:53,268 --> 00:12:54,988 Speaker 7: the Colts. They were able to find a way and 315 00:12:55,028 --> 00:12:57,388 Speaker 7: I'm not saying it was on the back of a PJ. Walker, 316 00:12:57,668 --> 00:12:59,428 Speaker 7: but their defense led the way. They were able to 317 00:12:59,468 --> 00:13:01,228 Speaker 7: find ways to win the game. So you kind of 318 00:13:01,268 --> 00:13:03,428 Speaker 7: think about it, like, why give up something to go 319 00:13:03,468 --> 00:13:05,908 Speaker 7: get Dobs if we're fine finding ways to win without 320 00:13:05,948 --> 00:13:08,948 Speaker 7: Deshaun Watson. Eventually he's coming back, But now that he's 321 00:13:08,988 --> 00:13:12,268 Speaker 7: out and you're just going with dtr it's kind of surprising. 322 00:13:12,428 --> 00:13:14,548 Speaker 7: But maybe he's been doing something in practice that they 323 00:13:14,588 --> 00:13:16,108 Speaker 7: just can't wait to showcase real quick. 324 00:13:16,188 --> 00:13:18,228 Speaker 6: Before we get to Tom Pela Sara, what's the most 325 00:13:18,228 --> 00:13:20,508 Speaker 6: frustrating thing for Browns fans is that for the first 326 00:13:20,508 --> 00:13:23,628 Speaker 6: time since this Deshaun Watson trade, he looked really good. 327 00:13:23,908 --> 00:13:26,468 Speaker 6: To see it was the worst ten ever, that's what 328 00:13:26,588 --> 00:13:28,948 Speaker 6: it could be, and we don't have to just rely 329 00:13:29,028 --> 00:13:30,868 Speaker 6: on defense in the running backs like we have a 330 00:13:30,948 --> 00:13:33,628 Speaker 6: quarterback too. He went fourteen or fourteen in the second 331 00:13:33,668 --> 00:13:36,708 Speaker 6: half with a broken shoulder. Say what you will, that 332 00:13:36,788 --> 00:13:38,308 Speaker 6: was a pretty gutsy performance. 333 00:13:38,348 --> 00:13:41,188 Speaker 2: Tom Pelasaro. We're gonna welcome you in from Minnesota. 334 00:13:41,188 --> 00:13:45,068 Speaker 6: We're just hours from Bengals on Thursday Night football. 335 00:13:45,508 --> 00:13:47,028 Speaker 2: What do we need to know ahead of that game? 336 00:13:47,068 --> 00:13:48,828 Speaker 2: It's an awesome AFC North matchup. 337 00:13:49,468 --> 00:13:52,068 Speaker 10: Well, Peter, let's start with Bengals wide receiver t Higgins, 338 00:13:52,068 --> 00:13:55,428 Speaker 10: who is out for Tonight's game against the Ravens due 339 00:13:55,468 --> 00:13:58,868 Speaker 10: to that hamstring injury that he suffered in practice eight 340 00:13:58,948 --> 00:13:59,468 Speaker 10: days ago. 341 00:13:59,588 --> 00:14:00,268 Speaker 4: Not a surprise. 342 00:14:00,668 --> 00:14:02,828 Speaker 10: Jack Taylor said it was gonna be tough, just based 343 00:14:02,908 --> 00:14:06,628 Speaker 10: upon the turnaround in this week. Higgins now has extra 344 00:14:06,748 --> 00:14:09,068 Speaker 10: time to get ready for the bengals next game, another 345 00:14:09,108 --> 00:14:12,428 Speaker 10: Division game against the Steelers on November twenty six, but 346 00:14:12,468 --> 00:14:15,348 Speaker 10: they're going to have to move forward without him tonight. 347 00:14:15,748 --> 00:14:19,948 Speaker 10: Defensive end Sam Hubbard also out for Tonight's game once 348 00:14:20,028 --> 00:14:23,228 Speaker 10: again because of his ankle injury. Better injury news for 349 00:14:23,308 --> 00:14:27,148 Speaker 10: Cincinnati defensive end Trey Hendrickson, who hyper extended his knee 350 00:14:27,148 --> 00:14:31,268 Speaker 10: in this weird post play collision last week. He had 351 00:14:31,308 --> 00:14:34,868 Speaker 10: an MRI, it came back clean. He is off the 352 00:14:34,908 --> 00:14:39,468 Speaker 10: injury report and is set to play tonight for the Ravens. 353 00:14:39,468 --> 00:14:42,148 Speaker 10: They're also going to be shorthanded Pro Bowl cornerback Marlin 354 00:14:42,188 --> 00:14:45,828 Speaker 10: Humphrey listed as doubtful because the calf injury that he 355 00:14:45,948 --> 00:14:49,228 Speaker 10: suffered on Sunday. He is not expected to play tonight. Also, 356 00:14:49,268 --> 00:14:53,468 Speaker 10: offensive tackle Ronnie Stanley out tonight because of a knee injury. 357 00:14:53,508 --> 00:14:57,748 Speaker 6: Peter, that's a big one. We're talking Browns this whole time. 358 00:14:57,788 --> 00:15:01,628 Speaker 6: AFC North is still very much, very much wide open. 359 00:15:02,028 --> 00:15:03,708 Speaker 2: Tom. Thank You'll get back to in a little bit, dude, 360 00:15:03,788 --> 00:15:06,508 Speaker 2: Appreciate you work. We got a good game tonight. 361 00:15:13,108 --> 00:15:14,028 Speaker 5: Really important game. 362 00:15:14,108 --> 00:15:16,388 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, Bear's Panthers walked, so this 363 00:15:16,428 --> 00:15:19,268 Speaker 1: one could run last week. But Joe Burrow, who we've 364 00:15:19,268 --> 00:15:21,348 Speaker 1: been watching lotly in that the O's videos. 365 00:15:21,388 --> 00:15:22,028 Speaker 5: Peter, that's your guy. 366 00:15:22,108 --> 00:15:27,908 Speaker 1: Oh's the mentalist, the magic os the mentalist. Adam Schefter approved. Yes, 367 00:15:28,988 --> 00:15:31,668 Speaker 1: it's a lot Michigan guy, all right. So anyway, I 368 00:15:31,708 --> 00:15:33,188 Speaker 1: bring up because Burrow was part of one of these 369 00:15:33,228 --> 00:15:35,308 Speaker 1: amazing things they do in the meeting room and there's 370 00:15:35,348 --> 00:15:37,548 Speaker 1: all kinds of magic going on. Will they be magic 371 00:15:37,548 --> 00:15:39,068 Speaker 1: tonight for Joe Burrow? He knows this. 372 00:15:39,188 --> 00:15:42,508 Speaker 5: There'll be big stakes. Thursday night football a big part 373 00:15:42,508 --> 00:15:42,748 Speaker 5: of the. 374 00:15:42,708 --> 00:15:44,788 Speaker 11: Big part of the year for both of us. You know, 375 00:15:44,788 --> 00:15:46,508 Speaker 11: they're coming off a loss. We're coming off the loss. 376 00:15:46,508 --> 00:15:48,668 Speaker 11: We're both trying to, you know, win the division. So 377 00:15:48,988 --> 00:15:51,148 Speaker 11: it's a big game. We know them, they know us. 378 00:15:51,948 --> 00:15:55,228 Speaker 11: And short week, not a lot of time to put 379 00:15:55,268 --> 00:15:56,148 Speaker 11: in a bunch of new stuff. 380 00:15:56,228 --> 00:15:57,828 Speaker 4: So we got what we got. 381 00:16:00,028 --> 00:16:01,508 Speaker 1: It sounds like Joe's just going to go out there 382 00:16:01,468 --> 00:16:04,028 Speaker 1: and chuck it tonight. Short week, we got what we got. 383 00:16:04,108 --> 00:16:06,748 Speaker 1: Let's play some ball, all right, Let's do the the 384 00:16:06,748 --> 00:16:10,108 Speaker 1: the classic football talk show thing. Deciding Factor. We have 385 00:16:10,148 --> 00:16:12,268 Speaker 1: a no X factor rule here, Good Morning Football. So Peter, 386 00:16:12,548 --> 00:16:15,388 Speaker 1: we don't we won't do it, So Deciding Factor do that. 387 00:16:15,588 --> 00:16:15,788 Speaker 4: Yeah. 388 00:16:15,948 --> 00:16:18,268 Speaker 6: I think the story out of Cincinnati is the health 389 00:16:18,308 --> 00:16:21,348 Speaker 6: of the team. Obviously Higgins and now the rookie out 390 00:16:21,348 --> 00:16:26,068 Speaker 6: of Princeton, Romanian Rocket's they're both going to be out 391 00:16:26,108 --> 00:16:27,508 Speaker 6: and it's like, how are they gonna get going? That's 392 00:16:27,508 --> 00:16:31,388 Speaker 6: Cincinnati story. And obviously Hubbard and Hendrickson miracle is going 393 00:16:31,468 --> 00:16:35,708 Speaker 6: to play Baltimore. It's like what happens to us in 394 00:16:35,748 --> 00:16:39,148 Speaker 6: the fourth year? Yeah, why do we stink in the 395 00:16:39,188 --> 00:16:41,548 Speaker 6: fourth quarter? And that's a lot of the buzz in Baltimore. 396 00:16:41,628 --> 00:16:41,788 Speaker 4: Right. 397 00:16:42,588 --> 00:16:45,428 Speaker 6: They have three losses this year, all of them were 398 00:16:45,468 --> 00:16:47,308 Speaker 6: in games that they led the entire way and then 399 00:16:47,348 --> 00:16:48,348 Speaker 6: gave it away at the end. 400 00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:50,748 Speaker 2: Take a look at this, this stat that our. 401 00:16:50,668 --> 00:16:54,348 Speaker 6: Wonderful producer Rich Wilberg on an Earth that has been 402 00:16:54,348 --> 00:16:59,428 Speaker 6: making the rounds online. In the history of the last 403 00:16:59,588 --> 00:17:05,988 Speaker 6: forty seasons of the NFL, only two teams have led 404 00:17:07,068 --> 00:17:10,508 Speaker 6: for more time through ten games in football than the 405 00:17:10,508 --> 00:17:11,668 Speaker 6: Baltimore Evens of this season. 406 00:17:11,668 --> 00:17:13,308 Speaker 1: The times we're looking at there is the times they're 407 00:17:13,468 --> 00:17:15,868 Speaker 1: behind in a game, yes, and at the bottom like 408 00:17:15,908 --> 00:17:18,548 Speaker 1: that's the eighteen and o Patriots, like they're way above them. 409 00:17:18,628 --> 00:17:21,028 Speaker 6: These are all Super Bowl contending team teams. They went 410 00:17:21,068 --> 00:17:22,828 Speaker 6: to the Super Bowl, every one of these other teams 411 00:17:22,828 --> 00:17:24,148 Speaker 6: and they all were undefeated. 412 00:17:24,988 --> 00:17:25,708 Speaker 2: The Ravens. 413 00:17:26,028 --> 00:17:27,548 Speaker 6: The Ravens have led all these minutes. Ye, at the 414 00:17:27,628 --> 00:17:29,868 Speaker 6: end of games, the weirdest stuff happens. And at some 415 00:17:29,948 --> 00:17:34,028 Speaker 6: point is it coincidence that this happens to a team? 416 00:17:34,668 --> 00:17:37,428 Speaker 2: Is it bad luck that it happens to a team? 417 00:17:37,428 --> 00:17:39,428 Speaker 2: You say, any given Sunday, Well, on. 418 00:17:39,428 --> 00:17:42,228 Speaker 6: Three different Sundays this year, the Ravens have led late 419 00:17:42,268 --> 00:17:44,348 Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter and somehow weren't able to come 420 00:17:44,348 --> 00:17:47,228 Speaker 6: out as Victor's This was on Week. 421 00:17:47,068 --> 00:17:50,668 Speaker 2: Ten but how do you explain the rest of the 422 00:17:50,708 --> 00:17:51,428 Speaker 2: two losses. 423 00:17:51,668 --> 00:17:53,988 Speaker 6: You look at the Steelers game. They were dominating that 424 00:17:54,028 --> 00:17:56,308 Speaker 6: game the entire way. Pickett could not do a thing, 425 00:17:56,628 --> 00:17:58,748 Speaker 6: and then George Pickens emerges at the very end and 426 00:17:58,748 --> 00:18:01,588 Speaker 6: it's like touchdown, goodbye, we'll win, We'll take it, just 427 00:18:01,788 --> 00:18:05,508 Speaker 6: ripping their soul out. This okay, fine vision rifles that happens. 428 00:18:05,788 --> 00:18:07,868 Speaker 6: I still can't get over their loss to the Colts 429 00:18:07,948 --> 00:18:08,828 Speaker 6: earlier this year. 430 00:18:09,188 --> 00:18:10,428 Speaker 2: They were being the Coats to the whole game. 431 00:18:10,468 --> 00:18:12,068 Speaker 6: They go to overtime with the Colts and the rain 432 00:18:12,108 --> 00:18:16,628 Speaker 6: at home, and a Colts team that was without Anthony 433 00:18:16,708 --> 00:18:19,788 Speaker 6: Richardson comes in here and minshew Is is working it 434 00:18:19,788 --> 00:18:21,748 Speaker 6: in overtime and works them all the way down the field. 435 00:18:22,268 --> 00:18:25,508 Speaker 2: Three losses, all of them ripped from. 436 00:18:25,308 --> 00:18:28,428 Speaker 6: Them in the final seconds. I think this is going 437 00:18:28,508 --> 00:18:31,108 Speaker 6: to be very close. I think this game is going to. 438 00:18:31,148 --> 00:18:31,988 Speaker 2: Come down to the end. 439 00:18:32,788 --> 00:18:35,388 Speaker 6: Are the Bengals gonna take it from the Ravens? And 440 00:18:35,468 --> 00:18:38,308 Speaker 6: the fourth court case, I'll tell you what Harbaugh talked 441 00:18:38,308 --> 00:18:40,708 Speaker 6: about Lamar and how you know there's no quarterback I 442 00:18:40,748 --> 00:18:43,188 Speaker 6: want in the fourth Harball's talking about. 443 00:18:43,748 --> 00:18:47,028 Speaker 2: The message boards right now? What are the message the talk, right, 444 00:18:47,348 --> 00:18:50,268 Speaker 2: it ain't about the quarterback. They're talking about about the 445 00:18:50,308 --> 00:18:54,428 Speaker 2: eight c what's up, dude, Like, how is this happening? 446 00:18:54,468 --> 00:18:56,908 Speaker 6: And it's not a one year things. It happens year 447 00:18:56,948 --> 00:19:00,228 Speaker 6: after year. So we're not there yet. It's seven and three. 448 00:19:00,308 --> 00:19:02,068 Speaker 6: They win tonight, they're eight and three, they're sitting good. 449 00:19:02,108 --> 00:19:02,588 Speaker 2: Everything's on. 450 00:19:03,068 --> 00:19:05,148 Speaker 6: You better believe I'm watching in the fourth quarter if 451 00:19:05,148 --> 00:19:07,868 Speaker 6: this thing gets close, how the Ravens handle the final 452 00:19:07,908 --> 00:19:08,628 Speaker 6: minutes of this game. 453 00:19:08,708 --> 00:19:12,868 Speaker 7: To your point, Shrews nine losses since twenty twenty one, 454 00:19:13,108 --> 00:19:14,348 Speaker 7: up seven plus points in. 455 00:19:14,308 --> 00:19:15,788 Speaker 5: The fourth quarter, come on, nine. 456 00:19:16,068 --> 00:19:19,308 Speaker 7: They find ways to lose games over these last few seasons. 457 00:19:19,308 --> 00:19:22,028 Speaker 7: So to your point, that is spot on of what's 458 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:24,148 Speaker 7: been happening in Baltimore and they're trying to figure that 459 00:19:24,228 --> 00:19:26,108 Speaker 7: thing out. I'm gonna look to the other side and 460 00:19:26,108 --> 00:19:28,828 Speaker 7: I'm looking at Joe Burrow and the reason is he's 461 00:19:28,828 --> 00:19:30,668 Speaker 7: been on fire. But you go back to that first 462 00:19:30,708 --> 00:19:33,708 Speaker 7: game against Baltimore, and this was the massage gun game 463 00:19:33,748 --> 00:19:36,668 Speaker 7: where he's on the sideline, the calf is bothering, he's 464 00:19:36,788 --> 00:19:37,748 Speaker 7: hitting it with the massage. 465 00:19:37,788 --> 00:19:38,908 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure it out. 466 00:19:39,068 --> 00:19:40,388 Speaker 7: And then at the end of the game is when 467 00:19:40,388 --> 00:19:42,628 Speaker 7: he generally walked off the field. And I remember I 468 00:19:42,748 --> 00:19:45,228 Speaker 7: was coming in that Monday, and the questions were, do 469 00:19:45,348 --> 00:19:47,628 Speaker 7: you sit Joe Burrow and come back to him in 470 00:19:47,668 --> 00:19:49,548 Speaker 7: a few weeks and see if he's all healed up 471 00:19:49,708 --> 00:19:51,828 Speaker 7: and if he's all ready to go. He threw an 472 00:19:51,868 --> 00:19:53,748 Speaker 7: interception in the red zone the Gino. 473 00:19:53,588 --> 00:19:56,508 Speaker 2: Stone in that game. That was a crucial turnover for them. 474 00:19:56,708 --> 00:19:59,348 Speaker 7: So you look at Joe Burrow and this Bengals team 475 00:19:59,348 --> 00:20:01,388 Speaker 7: at the beginning of the season, and he said it 476 00:20:01,388 --> 00:20:03,748 Speaker 7: this week, Joe Burrow said, the last time I wasn't 477 00:20:03,748 --> 00:20:06,508 Speaker 7: playing with a full toolbox. Well, he has a full 478 00:20:06,548 --> 00:20:09,668 Speaker 7: toolbox now himself. His ability to get outside the pocket. 479 00:20:09,828 --> 00:20:11,988 Speaker 7: You look at what he's been able to do as 480 00:20:11,988 --> 00:20:14,148 Speaker 7: of recently, and we talked about the last two games 481 00:20:14,188 --> 00:20:17,588 Speaker 7: over three hundred and forty yards passing. He's been unbelievable 482 00:20:17,588 --> 00:20:20,028 Speaker 7: as you look at his numbers since Week five. 483 00:20:20,268 --> 00:20:20,868 Speaker 12: And we knew it. 484 00:20:20,908 --> 00:20:22,868 Speaker 7: He went in with the cav he was playing through it, 485 00:20:22,988 --> 00:20:24,668 Speaker 7: and I feel like a dummy for saying, yeah, you 486 00:20:24,708 --> 00:20:26,868 Speaker 7: go ahead, put Joe Burrow on ir let him get 487 00:20:26,908 --> 00:20:29,108 Speaker 7: healthy and come back. He worked through it and now 488 00:20:29,188 --> 00:20:30,468 Speaker 7: he is rolling. 489 00:20:30,148 --> 00:20:31,508 Speaker 5: In this offense is rolling. 490 00:20:31,708 --> 00:20:32,388 Speaker 2: You said it, Shrek. 491 00:20:32,748 --> 00:20:35,508 Speaker 7: They'll be without Tie Higgins, They'll be without Andre Josi, Bosh, 492 00:20:35,868 --> 00:20:38,388 Speaker 7: there's no Marl Humphrey on the other side, possibly doubtful 493 00:20:38,428 --> 00:20:39,068 Speaker 7: in this game. 494 00:20:39,588 --> 00:20:40,788 Speaker 5: Can he get things going? 495 00:20:40,788 --> 00:20:43,788 Speaker 7: Can he have like a classic Joe Bowl performance on 496 00:20:43,828 --> 00:20:46,548 Speaker 7: the roll at M and T Banks Stadium against the 497 00:20:46,588 --> 00:20:49,708 Speaker 7: division rivals of the Baltimore Ravens. In order for Burrow 498 00:20:49,788 --> 00:20:52,508 Speaker 7: to do so, though, they've got to hold up offensive 499 00:20:52,548 --> 00:20:55,188 Speaker 7: line wise. We're watching Sheldon Rankins last week from the 500 00:20:55,188 --> 00:20:57,948 Speaker 7: Houston Texans and I showed it in u WI yesterday 501 00:20:58,068 --> 00:21:00,188 Speaker 7: where he slamming Joe Burrow to the ground. He had 502 00:21:00,228 --> 00:21:03,268 Speaker 7: three sacks in that game. And for Baltimore, they get 503 00:21:03,268 --> 00:21:06,588 Speaker 7: after the quarterback. Talk about Jadavion Clowney and him getting 504 00:21:06,588 --> 00:21:09,388 Speaker 7: after Justin Mattabike has been unbelievable. Eight and a half 505 00:21:09,428 --> 00:21:11,748 Speaker 7: saxmon him on the interior. So I'm looking at what 506 00:21:11,868 --> 00:21:14,188 Speaker 7: Joe Burrow is able to do. His ability to move 507 00:21:14,228 --> 00:21:16,548 Speaker 7: around the pocket and make things happen, getting the ball 508 00:21:16,588 --> 00:21:18,388 Speaker 7: to Jamar Chase. I think that decides his game. 509 00:21:18,428 --> 00:21:19,228 Speaker 5: To know, well, I think you're there. 510 00:21:19,268 --> 00:21:20,748 Speaker 1: I don't think the Bengals can win if Chase does 511 00:21:20,788 --> 00:21:22,348 Speaker 1: never a big game, like I think this is going 512 00:21:22,428 --> 00:21:24,108 Speaker 1: to be a Jamar Chase game, or at least it 513 00:21:24,108 --> 00:21:27,988 Speaker 1: has to be interesting history versus the Ravens, some wild 514 00:21:28,068 --> 00:21:30,548 Speaker 1: stuff as a rookie, like just absolutely tore them apart. 515 00:21:30,748 --> 00:21:31,988 Speaker 5: Play them earlier this year. 516 00:21:32,468 --> 00:21:35,188 Speaker 1: Not special, not big numbers, but it's an up and 517 00:21:35,228 --> 00:21:36,748 Speaker 1: down him thing with the Ravens. I think it's sitting 518 00:21:36,828 --> 00:21:39,468 Speaker 1: right there, you're saying that Joe Burrow has his full toolbox. 519 00:21:39,668 --> 00:21:42,628 Speaker 1: He does personally with himself, not with the tools he 520 00:21:42,668 --> 00:21:44,748 Speaker 1: needs to use. I feel like tonight he's gonna have 521 00:21:44,748 --> 00:21:46,588 Speaker 1: to put this whole bookshelf together. It's just one of 522 00:21:46,628 --> 00:21:48,828 Speaker 1: those Allen wrenches, those little time and it can be done. 523 00:21:48,988 --> 00:21:51,588 Speaker 1: Believe me, I've done it. But Chase against the Ravens 524 00:21:51,748 --> 00:21:54,508 Speaker 1: has been awesome. Sometimes he's been not awesome. Sometimes. I 525 00:21:54,548 --> 00:21:56,468 Speaker 1: think if we look up tonight and it's the end 526 00:21:56,508 --> 00:21:59,028 Speaker 1: of the game and Jamar Chase has they have six 527 00:21:59,068 --> 00:22:01,308 Speaker 1: catches for fifty four yards, I think they lose. I 528 00:22:01,308 --> 00:22:03,588 Speaker 1: think they may lose by double digits. You know, unless, 529 00:22:03,588 --> 00:22:05,388 Speaker 1: of course, Peter the Ravens collapse in the fourth quarter. 530 00:22:05,788 --> 00:22:08,188 Speaker 1: But this is not this team we're seeing here. That 531 00:22:08,388 --> 00:22:10,148 Speaker 1: this is a couple of years ago. This is Higgins 532 00:22:10,188 --> 00:22:12,828 Speaker 1: is on fire, Boyd is on fire, Chase is arriving, 533 00:22:13,108 --> 00:22:15,508 Speaker 1: that's not showing up at the game tonight. I think 534 00:22:15,548 --> 00:22:18,588 Speaker 1: we need an eleven catch one twenty eight receivers with 535 00:22:18,628 --> 00:22:20,788 Speaker 1: a touchdown from Chase or I just don't know if 536 00:22:20,828 --> 00:22:24,388 Speaker 1: Burrow has enough weapons, you said, Yoshavas Higgins, Like, you know, 537 00:22:24,428 --> 00:22:26,148 Speaker 1: I know Boyd wants to make amends for his big 538 00:22:26,228 --> 00:22:29,108 Speaker 1: drop last week, But I have to bring it back 539 00:22:29,148 --> 00:22:30,948 Speaker 1: to the Ravens thing at the end because I was 540 00:22:31,108 --> 00:22:33,388 Speaker 1: familiar with this, this thing where at the end of 541 00:22:33,388 --> 00:22:35,988 Speaker 1: the game, what is the teeth of the complaint? So 542 00:22:36,028 --> 00:22:38,508 Speaker 1: it's easy to say they're losing these games. It's the coach. 543 00:22:38,548 --> 00:22:40,468 Speaker 1: It's the coach. We need a little bit more than that. 544 00:22:40,588 --> 00:22:42,428 Speaker 1: John Harbud has been around long enough to we need 545 00:22:42,468 --> 00:22:44,828 Speaker 1: to respect it. Are we talking time management? Are we 546 00:22:44,908 --> 00:22:47,388 Speaker 1: talking psychological or are we talking leadership? 547 00:22:47,428 --> 00:22:47,548 Speaker 5: Like? 548 00:22:47,628 --> 00:22:49,388 Speaker 1: What is the teeth other than just blaming the head 549 00:22:49,388 --> 00:22:50,268 Speaker 1: coach with no reason? 550 00:22:50,428 --> 00:22:53,028 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's not one thing to go through all of those. 551 00:22:53,068 --> 00:22:55,068 Speaker 7: But you look at the game last week, at turnovers 552 00:22:55,108 --> 00:22:57,428 Speaker 7: late in the game, one of them bounced off somebody's 553 00:22:57,428 --> 00:22:59,828 Speaker 7: hand and it gets intercepted for a pick six, Which 554 00:22:59,868 --> 00:23:01,588 Speaker 7: is tough to say, but when you look at them, 555 00:23:01,788 --> 00:23:03,668 Speaker 7: it seems to be in the fourth quarter you kind 556 00:23:03,668 --> 00:23:05,468 Speaker 7: of take your foot off the gas in their team 557 00:23:05,468 --> 00:23:07,548 Speaker 7: that runs the ball really well, so you're loud to 558 00:23:07,668 --> 00:23:10,228 Speaker 7: running the ball defensively, their team that will bring pressure. 559 00:23:10,388 --> 00:23:12,708 Speaker 7: Are you still bringing that pressure throughout the fourth quarter 560 00:23:12,748 --> 00:23:14,508 Speaker 7: when you're up. I think those are the things you 561 00:23:14,508 --> 00:23:17,068 Speaker 7: look at from a coaching standpoint of are we still 562 00:23:17,108 --> 00:23:19,468 Speaker 7: aggressive late in the game. Are we playing to go 563 00:23:19,508 --> 00:23:22,028 Speaker 7: win this thing? Are we looking at our lead and saying, hey, 564 00:23:22,028 --> 00:23:24,188 Speaker 7: we just can't lose it at this point? And I 565 00:23:24,228 --> 00:23:26,788 Speaker 7: do think there's something psychological when you look at three 566 00:23:26,828 --> 00:23:29,308 Speaker 7: seasons and it's continuing to happen in the fourth quarter. 567 00:23:29,388 --> 00:23:31,708 Speaker 7: Now you're just like, all right, what are we doing wrong? 568 00:23:31,748 --> 00:23:34,068 Speaker 7: There's a little bit of possibly panic. So it'll be 569 00:23:34,108 --> 00:23:35,628 Speaker 7: interesting to see too, launch. 570 00:23:35,508 --> 00:23:37,668 Speaker 6: Too, because once the fans start feeling it and it's 571 00:23:37,668 --> 00:23:39,708 Speaker 6: a feeding frenzy, and then you're in the building and 572 00:23:39,748 --> 00:23:41,748 Speaker 6: there's this tension in the building. And you said it 573 00:23:41,828 --> 00:23:44,788 Speaker 6: on Tuesday morning that, like, you know, Buffalo on Monday night. 574 00:23:44,628 --> 00:23:45,588 Speaker 2: Just didn't feel like the scene. 575 00:23:45,588 --> 00:23:47,988 Speaker 6: But when you start giving up leads in the fourth 576 00:23:48,068 --> 00:23:49,948 Speaker 6: quarter and they start feeling it, and it's that tension, 577 00:23:49,988 --> 00:23:51,348 Speaker 6: and it's like everyone's just tenth. 578 00:23:51,388 --> 00:23:52,468 Speaker 2: You can't play football the way. 579 00:23:52,548 --> 00:23:54,148 Speaker 6: And I think that's the fear that we get to 580 00:23:54,268 --> 00:23:56,628 Speaker 6: December and January and if this is a thing, well, 581 00:23:56,628 --> 00:23:58,908 Speaker 6: we're in the playoffs now and you're gonna have to 582 00:23:58,908 --> 00:24:01,348 Speaker 6: be good in the fourth quarter and you can't just say, well, 583 00:24:01,428 --> 00:24:02,348 Speaker 6: let's just coincidence. 584 00:24:02,388 --> 00:24:04,348 Speaker 2: And we got to the playoffs though, like there's bigger expectation. 585 00:24:04,708 --> 00:24:06,388 Speaker 1: It's got to be an annoying storyline. So put it 586 00:24:06,428 --> 00:24:08,788 Speaker 1: to rest, Put it to rest. Close them out, guys. 587 00:24:08,788 --> 00:24:11,148 Speaker 1: We have Santa Claus for Christmas, we got the Easter Bunny. 588 00:24:11,148 --> 00:24:13,468 Speaker 1: We got Uncle Sam for Fourth of July. I think 589 00:24:13,508 --> 00:24:16,228 Speaker 1: John Madden is now the official face of Thanksgiving it 590 00:24:16,348 --> 00:24:16,828 Speaker 1: this country. 591 00:24:16,988 --> 00:24:18,148 Speaker 5: I moved to make it that way. 592 00:24:18,348 --> 00:24:21,868 Speaker 1: It's to John Madden Thanksgiving celebration. That is how we 593 00:24:21,908 --> 00:24:24,988 Speaker 1: are glossing it. It starts with Packer Lions twelve thirty pm, 594 00:24:24,988 --> 00:24:26,948 Speaker 1: Meson This is the best day of the year that 595 00:24:27,028 --> 00:24:30,348 Speaker 1: Packers Lions matter, Sure, Commanders Cowboys Matters four thirty pm, 596 00:24:30,348 --> 00:24:34,628 Speaker 1: and CBS and NFC West nightcap Niners Seahawks is a 597 00:24:34,668 --> 00:24:37,668 Speaker 1: great game on NBC at eight twenty pm. And naturally, 598 00:24:37,708 --> 00:24:40,028 Speaker 1: don't even turn on the TV obviously it's twenty twenty three. 599 00:24:40,148 --> 00:24:42,388 Speaker 1: Stream them on NFL Plus. Just there on your phone. 600 00:24:42,428 --> 00:24:44,308 Speaker 1: Have a drink, Peter, what else we got? 601 00:24:44,428 --> 00:24:46,628 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, in all honesty, you're probably commuting back, you're 602 00:24:46,708 --> 00:24:48,268 Speaker 6: driving back from Grandma's wherever. 603 00:24:48,068 --> 00:24:50,428 Speaker 2: You're gonna be. Put on NFL Plus. Come on, have 604 00:24:50,548 --> 00:24:52,268 Speaker 2: it on in the car, put the audio on, listen 605 00:24:52,308 --> 00:24:54,388 Speaker 2: and you can also watch us. You watch the NFL Network. 606 00:24:54,508 --> 00:24:55,348 Speaker 5: Good Morning Football. 607 00:24:55,388 --> 00:24:59,068 Speaker 2: We start the day. We love getting that leadoff, ready, 608 00:24:59,228 --> 00:24:59,988 Speaker 2: Batton leadoff. 609 00:24:59,988 --> 00:25:02,188 Speaker 6: We toss it over to eyes in NFL Game Day morning, 610 00:25:02,228 --> 00:25:03,628 Speaker 6: they're all going to be in LA They're gonna do 611 00:25:03,668 --> 00:25:05,748 Speaker 6: their thing. Then you stay update in the day's action. 612 00:25:05,868 --> 00:25:07,988 Speaker 6: You go right through it. In between the games, you 613 00:25:08,028 --> 00:25:10,068 Speaker 6: put on game day highlights, and you wrap it up, 614 00:25:10,108 --> 00:25:12,668 Speaker 6: your end your Thanksgiving with us NFL Game Day. Funnily, 615 00:25:12,668 --> 00:25:16,428 Speaker 6: you'll leave it on Friday morning looking at our beautiful faces. 616 00:25:16,428 --> 00:25:16,988 Speaker 2: We're on again. 617 00:25:17,108 --> 00:25:17,828 Speaker 5: We're on again. 618 00:25:17,868 --> 00:25:20,388 Speaker 7: We're always there in your living room, and you watch 619 00:25:20,468 --> 00:25:22,588 Speaker 7: all of that on Thanksgiven leading up to Sunday and 620 00:25:22,628 --> 00:25:25,268 Speaker 7: then you get a Super Bowl rematch coming up after 621 00:25:25,308 --> 00:25:28,588 Speaker 7: that Super Bowl fifty seven. That is the cherry on top. Well, 622 00:25:28,628 --> 00:25:31,588 Speaker 7: next you got Andrew Wentworth coming through to talk about 623 00:25:31,628 --> 00:25:32,108 Speaker 7: tonight's game. 624 00:25:37,868 --> 00:25:40,788 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Good Morning Football. The three of us 625 00:25:40,788 --> 00:25:44,068 Speaker 2: guys are here. Jamie's out today and she'll be back tomorrow. 626 00:25:44,108 --> 00:25:46,908 Speaker 6: We are now joined by one of the best offensive 627 00:25:46,988 --> 00:25:50,948 Speaker 6: movement of his generation, a Super Bowl champion, and a 628 00:25:51,028 --> 00:25:53,668 Speaker 6: Walter Payton Man of the Year winner. Let's welcome back 629 00:25:53,668 --> 00:25:55,828 Speaker 6: to the show one of our favorite people in the biz. 630 00:25:56,228 --> 00:25:57,708 Speaker 2: TNF on Prime analysts. 631 00:25:57,748 --> 00:25:59,108 Speaker 5: Mister, what's up with. 632 00:25:59,388 --> 00:26:02,308 Speaker 4: What's come morning fellas? What's going on with baby? 633 00:26:03,628 --> 00:26:05,468 Speaker 2: How are we doing? Before we get started? 634 00:26:06,268 --> 00:26:09,028 Speaker 6: You happen to have an early night last night and 635 00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:10,468 Speaker 6: you tucked into bed in the hotel? 636 00:26:10,788 --> 00:26:12,788 Speaker 4: Why you know? 637 00:26:13,108 --> 00:26:15,268 Speaker 12: You know? I just kind of scroll on the TV 638 00:26:15,388 --> 00:26:17,468 Speaker 12: and I found my guy cow on the Will of 639 00:26:17,508 --> 00:26:20,668 Speaker 12: Fortune show, and I saw the frustration on his face 640 00:26:20,708 --> 00:26:23,028 Speaker 12: when he went with the wow instead of the boy. 641 00:26:23,388 --> 00:26:26,228 Speaker 12: It felt like Sean McVay and a bad third down call. 642 00:26:26,748 --> 00:26:32,748 Speaker 12: Give me the timeout. What are you talking about? You 643 00:26:32,788 --> 00:26:35,668 Speaker 12: were like, no, So. 644 00:26:35,668 --> 00:26:37,428 Speaker 1: You get on Wheel Fortune. You're nervous as hell. I 645 00:26:37,428 --> 00:26:39,748 Speaker 1: want to solve a puzzle. It's just let me get something. 646 00:26:40,068 --> 00:26:43,348 Speaker 1: The first puzzle with movie quotes, they're like feeding it 647 00:26:43,388 --> 00:26:46,428 Speaker 1: to me and I see it and it's I start identifying, like, oh, 648 00:26:46,468 --> 00:26:48,428 Speaker 1: this is Anchorman ron Bergeny, it's a line that's on 649 00:26:48,668 --> 00:26:50,748 Speaker 1: that's on t shirts. You can buy a targets and 650 00:26:50,788 --> 00:26:51,788 Speaker 1: it's you know, you. 651 00:26:51,748 --> 00:26:52,628 Speaker 5: See it blank? 652 00:26:52,708 --> 00:26:52,748 Speaker 10: What? 653 00:26:52,908 --> 00:26:54,868 Speaker 5: That really escalated quickly, and. 654 00:26:54,828 --> 00:26:57,908 Speaker 1: So I I went to solve without even spinning. 655 00:26:58,228 --> 00:26:58,828 Speaker 5: I'll just solve that. 656 00:26:58,868 --> 00:27:00,988 Speaker 1: I don't need I got this, I got go ahead, 657 00:27:01,028 --> 00:27:05,468 Speaker 1: and I go wow, that really escalated quickly, and he goes, no, 658 00:27:05,628 --> 00:27:07,188 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but what do you mean? No, I know 659 00:27:07,228 --> 00:27:08,708 Speaker 1: that movie line better than you do. Pat, I don't 660 00:27:08,708 --> 00:27:09,948 Speaker 1: know what says in that card. I got it right, 661 00:27:10,348 --> 00:27:12,748 Speaker 1: and with tell what is the real puzzle? What did 662 00:27:12,788 --> 00:27:13,348 Speaker 1: I mess up? 663 00:27:14,508 --> 00:27:17,748 Speaker 12: It's boy, that's quitty. Quickly, man, I saw it in 664 00:27:17,748 --> 00:27:20,788 Speaker 12: your face. You wanted to argue with Pat right there? 665 00:27:21,868 --> 00:27:22,228 Speaker 5: I did. 666 00:27:22,388 --> 00:27:25,428 Speaker 1: I did, And it's ironic because my heart rate escalated 667 00:27:25,508 --> 00:27:27,468 Speaker 1: quickly too as it was going. And I thought that 668 00:27:27,588 --> 00:27:28,988 Speaker 1: was I threw a pick six on the first player. 669 00:27:28,988 --> 00:27:31,108 Speaker 1: We lose one hundred to nothing. But as you saw 670 00:27:31,188 --> 00:27:32,588 Speaker 1: with like, I got a little game, and I came 671 00:27:32,588 --> 00:27:34,228 Speaker 1: back talk to Peter. 672 00:27:34,268 --> 00:27:34,948 Speaker 5: Get into the game. 673 00:27:34,988 --> 00:27:37,388 Speaker 6: Come on, you got the Ravens and the Bengals. Obviously 674 00:27:37,388 --> 00:27:39,628 Speaker 6: you played with the Bengals for years. You're a legend 675 00:27:39,668 --> 00:27:43,668 Speaker 6: from Cincinnati's glory thom of Morvan Lewis, so plenty of 676 00:27:43,668 --> 00:27:46,348 Speaker 6: these games burrowing the Bengals. They've got to go in here. 677 00:27:46,348 --> 00:27:48,828 Speaker 6: But there are some injuries at wide receiver. What's your 678 00:27:48,868 --> 00:27:50,708 Speaker 6: read on the Bengals coming off that bad loss of 679 00:27:50,748 --> 00:27:51,268 Speaker 6: the Texans. 680 00:27:52,468 --> 00:27:55,268 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think anytime you see Joe Burrow getting these situations, 681 00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:57,148 Speaker 12: we look forward to the game he's going to have 682 00:27:57,228 --> 00:28:00,468 Speaker 12: next because he's the guy that that passion and intensity 683 00:28:00,548 --> 00:28:02,748 Speaker 12: comes out when he feels backed up against a wall. 684 00:28:02,828 --> 00:28:05,428 Speaker 12: But unfortunately for them, yeah, they're banged up a little 685 00:28:05,468 --> 00:28:08,748 Speaker 12: bit at the receiver position, and then also defensively, you know, 686 00:28:08,828 --> 00:28:11,988 Speaker 12: hopefully Trey Henderson somewhat healthy for this game, and then 687 00:28:12,188 --> 00:28:14,388 Speaker 12: they're missing Sam Hubbard. Man, you saw what the Texans 688 00:28:14,428 --> 00:28:16,388 Speaker 12: were able to do to them running the football, and 689 00:28:16,428 --> 00:28:18,548 Speaker 12: that's going to be a key tonight is can these 690 00:28:18,588 --> 00:28:21,348 Speaker 12: guys stop the run against Lamar Jackson and make them 691 00:28:21,348 --> 00:28:22,028 Speaker 12: one dimensional? 692 00:28:23,628 --> 00:28:23,788 Speaker 4: Wait? 693 00:28:23,908 --> 00:28:24,588 Speaker 5: I think about it. 694 00:28:24,668 --> 00:28:27,148 Speaker 1: In your job from a TV perspective, right after the 695 00:28:27,148 --> 00:28:28,468 Speaker 1: game is over tonight, they're going to go to you 696 00:28:28,508 --> 00:28:29,788 Speaker 1: guys at the desk, and you're gonna have to have 697 00:28:29,828 --> 00:28:32,908 Speaker 1: your immediate take. Last segment, we're talking about the Ravens. 698 00:28:32,908 --> 00:28:36,468 Speaker 1: Three losses are these kind of pseudo collapses that happen 699 00:28:36,508 --> 00:28:38,228 Speaker 1: at the end of the game. They're one of the 700 00:28:38,228 --> 00:28:40,548 Speaker 1: best seven and three teams of all time, but they've 701 00:28:40,548 --> 00:28:43,348 Speaker 1: got these three losses and there's questions, now, why are 702 00:28:43,348 --> 00:28:45,268 Speaker 1: they blowing it in the fourth quarter? 703 00:28:45,348 --> 00:28:48,268 Speaker 5: What's going on? It may happen tonight. What is going on? 704 00:28:48,308 --> 00:28:49,868 Speaker 1: Do you think there's something there with them not being 705 00:28:49,868 --> 00:28:50,788 Speaker 1: able to finish games? 706 00:28:51,748 --> 00:28:53,748 Speaker 12: Yeah, it just seems like in the first half they've 707 00:28:53,748 --> 00:28:56,668 Speaker 12: been so explosive and dominant, and you know, I was 708 00:28:56,708 --> 00:28:58,068 Speaker 12: saying yesterday on the way here, I was like, am 709 00:28:58,108 --> 00:28:59,748 Speaker 12: I ready to call the Ravens like one of the 710 00:28:59,748 --> 00:29:02,268 Speaker 12: top three four teams in the entire NFL? But then 711 00:29:02,308 --> 00:29:04,788 Speaker 12: try to explain some of these losses at the end 712 00:29:04,828 --> 00:29:08,708 Speaker 12: of these games. It's hard to understand, you know, really 713 00:29:08,748 --> 00:29:10,428 Speaker 12: why they're getting that position. And the only thing I 714 00:29:10,428 --> 00:29:12,628 Speaker 12: can think is maybe because of the new offense and 715 00:29:13,268 --> 00:29:15,988 Speaker 12: really the ability they had to be efficient and run 716 00:29:16,028 --> 00:29:18,188 Speaker 12: the football and do all these things that a little 717 00:29:18,188 --> 00:29:20,148 Speaker 12: bit in the second half sometimes when they kind of 718 00:29:20,148 --> 00:29:21,908 Speaker 12: pull off a little and say all right, let's just 719 00:29:21,948 --> 00:29:24,588 Speaker 12: be safe, you don't see as much explosion from them. 720 00:29:24,628 --> 00:29:26,788 Speaker 12: But I just think as this year goes, you've kind 721 00:29:26,788 --> 00:29:29,348 Speaker 12: of seen this steady progression from them getting better and 722 00:29:29,388 --> 00:29:32,468 Speaker 12: better on that side of the football, and defensively they've 723 00:29:32,508 --> 00:29:34,748 Speaker 12: been dominant. I just think that at the end of 724 00:29:34,988 --> 00:29:37,308 Speaker 12: the season, this team is going to be really special 725 00:29:37,348 --> 00:29:39,388 Speaker 12: and I think one to watch out for in the AFC. 726 00:29:40,948 --> 00:29:42,948 Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure. You look at two of their losses, 727 00:29:42,988 --> 00:29:44,828 Speaker 7: one to the Cleveland we just saw it, another one 728 00:29:44,868 --> 00:29:47,308 Speaker 7: to the Pittsburgh Steelers were late in the fourth quarter. 729 00:29:47,348 --> 00:29:49,548 Speaker 7: And now we're talking about the Browns and the Steelers 730 00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:51,388 Speaker 7: and the AFC North. They're getting a chance to go 731 00:29:51,428 --> 00:29:53,748 Speaker 7: against each other. And Mike Tomlin this week said he 732 00:29:53,828 --> 00:29:56,068 Speaker 7: needs to see more from Kenny Pickett. And on the 733 00:29:56,108 --> 00:29:58,068 Speaker 7: other side, the Browns not PJ. 734 00:29:58,228 --> 00:29:58,548 Speaker 2: Walker. 735 00:29:58,588 --> 00:30:01,908 Speaker 7: They're rolling with the rookie Duran Thompson Robinson. So Sunday, 736 00:30:01,908 --> 00:30:03,428 Speaker 7: as you watch these games, what are you expecting to 737 00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:04,388 Speaker 7: see from these quarterbacks? 738 00:30:05,388 --> 00:30:06,988 Speaker 12: Well, I think on the same side, what we just 739 00:30:06,988 --> 00:30:09,348 Speaker 12: said about the Ravens and being able to unexplain, You'll 740 00:30:09,348 --> 00:30:11,508 Speaker 12: be able to explain why they have these three losses 741 00:30:11,548 --> 00:30:13,628 Speaker 12: and they look so dominant. Look at the Pittsburgh Steelers, 742 00:30:13,668 --> 00:30:16,268 Speaker 12: I mean, a bottom five of offense and defense and 743 00:30:16,348 --> 00:30:19,668 Speaker 12: yards per game, but they're one win and a Baltimore 744 00:30:19,708 --> 00:30:22,188 Speaker 12: loss from leading the AFC North in what is the 745 00:30:22,228 --> 00:30:24,388 Speaker 12: top division in the league right now and wins, which 746 00:30:24,428 --> 00:30:25,428 Speaker 12: is crazy. 747 00:30:25,828 --> 00:30:27,268 Speaker 4: But I think that you really look at it. 748 00:30:27,308 --> 00:30:30,308 Speaker 12: I mean, obviously we've seen it since Matt Canada has 749 00:30:30,308 --> 00:30:31,228 Speaker 12: been on the sideline. 750 00:30:31,268 --> 00:30:34,228 Speaker 4: They're two and zero baby, so hey, there's some confidence 751 00:30:34,228 --> 00:30:36,028 Speaker 4: there and that. But we got to see. 752 00:30:35,908 --> 00:30:37,868 Speaker 12: Kenny Pickett obviously, take care of the football, push it 753 00:30:37,868 --> 00:30:39,908 Speaker 12: down the field, be explosive on offense. They want to 754 00:30:39,948 --> 00:30:41,988 Speaker 12: see some of what we saw in the preseason that 755 00:30:42,068 --> 00:30:44,548 Speaker 12: we got so excited about on this offensive side of 756 00:30:44,548 --> 00:30:46,588 Speaker 12: the football and on the other. You know, they're going 757 00:30:46,628 --> 00:30:49,148 Speaker 12: with Thompson and I think it's interesting because he struggled 758 00:30:49,148 --> 00:30:51,028 Speaker 12: the first time they played the Ravens. Now he didn't 759 00:30:51,028 --> 00:30:52,508 Speaker 12: have much notice that he was going to play in 760 00:30:52,508 --> 00:30:54,268 Speaker 12: that game. You know, it really was kind of a 761 00:30:54,348 --> 00:30:57,028 Speaker 12: last second thing. They wanted to seem all week, be 762 00:30:57,108 --> 00:30:59,588 Speaker 12: ready prepared. No, he's going to start and see how 763 00:30:59,588 --> 00:31:01,548 Speaker 12: it goes this time. What a big opportunity for him 764 00:31:01,588 --> 00:31:03,548 Speaker 12: because he's somebody they really said they saw a lot 765 00:31:03,588 --> 00:31:06,188 Speaker 12: of upside in and so I'm looking forward to seeing 766 00:31:06,188 --> 00:31:08,548 Speaker 12: his challenge this week for them. But the Steelers man 767 00:31:08,628 --> 00:31:11,628 Speaker 12: one game away from leading this division, and it's all 768 00:31:11,628 --> 00:31:14,148 Speaker 12: about turnovers for that defense, and that's why they're here. 769 00:31:15,428 --> 00:31:17,868 Speaker 2: They've been outgained in every game this season. And they say, 770 00:31:17,868 --> 00:31:18,988 Speaker 2: who prase we still. 771 00:31:18,788 --> 00:31:22,388 Speaker 6: Win something in your backyard in LA and your old 772 00:31:22,388 --> 00:31:23,828 Speaker 6: team at the Rams who won the Super Bowl with 773 00:31:23,948 --> 00:31:25,828 Speaker 6: they signed Carson Wentz and then they go on there 774 00:31:25,868 --> 00:31:27,788 Speaker 6: by like have you have any update on how that's 775 00:31:27,828 --> 00:31:30,228 Speaker 6: been going, and Wentz in between had a baby, also 776 00:31:30,348 --> 00:31:33,348 Speaker 6: like there's a lot going on in La Wentz and 777 00:31:33,428 --> 00:31:35,388 Speaker 6: Stafford as a quarterbacks room. 778 00:31:35,468 --> 00:31:38,948 Speaker 2: Any thoughts and insights on that, you. 779 00:31:38,908 --> 00:31:40,748 Speaker 12: Know, No, I just you know, talking to Matthew obviously, 780 00:31:40,788 --> 00:31:43,148 Speaker 12: I think, you know, it's gonna be interesting to see 781 00:31:43,148 --> 00:31:45,108 Speaker 12: that room, just you know, two vets like that in there. 782 00:31:45,108 --> 00:31:47,428 Speaker 12: I would love to hear those conversations and also find 783 00:31:47,428 --> 00:31:48,788 Speaker 12: out if by the end of the year he gets 784 00:31:48,788 --> 00:31:50,828 Speaker 12: invited to some of these five six am meetings. We 785 00:31:50,868 --> 00:31:52,868 Speaker 12: don't know, right you know, Cooper and Matthew are very 786 00:31:52,868 --> 00:31:56,268 Speaker 12: tight with that, so you know, I think it's gonna 787 00:31:56,268 --> 00:31:58,548 Speaker 12: be interesting to see that dynamic and also just that 788 00:31:58,668 --> 00:32:00,428 Speaker 12: QB room over the last few years. I mean, while 789 00:32:00,548 --> 00:32:04,788 Speaker 12: Baker Mayfield, Carson Wentz, Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff, they just 790 00:32:04,908 --> 00:32:07,668 Speaker 12: like to collect these quarterbacks, that's for sure. But I'll 791 00:32:07,708 --> 00:32:09,228 Speaker 12: be interest to see how that kind of works out 792 00:32:09,268 --> 00:32:11,628 Speaker 12: and whether he you know, with Matthew's thumb and the 793 00:32:11,668 --> 00:32:13,188 Speaker 12: injuries he's kind of faced this season. 794 00:32:13,228 --> 00:32:13,668 Speaker 4: That's the thing. 795 00:32:13,708 --> 00:32:15,948 Speaker 12: People talk about, the thumb, but he's got other things too. 796 00:32:15,988 --> 00:32:17,428 Speaker 12: He's been banged up a little bit this year and 797 00:32:17,508 --> 00:32:18,828 Speaker 12: just fighting like the warrior he is. 798 00:32:18,908 --> 00:32:20,668 Speaker 4: Man. I don't know if I. 799 00:32:20,628 --> 00:32:23,028 Speaker 12: Earned more respect for Stafford during our Super Bowl run 800 00:32:23,068 --> 00:32:26,108 Speaker 12: or right now, because watching this dude battle throughout this 801 00:32:26,188 --> 00:32:28,348 Speaker 12: season knowing it's all on him to lead this football 802 00:32:28,348 --> 00:32:29,788 Speaker 12: team has been really impressive to me. 803 00:32:31,308 --> 00:32:32,908 Speaker 5: He really is a warrior. It's awesome to hear you 804 00:32:32,948 --> 00:32:33,188 Speaker 5: say that. 805 00:32:33,228 --> 00:32:35,548 Speaker 1: I wonder what's more intense with the quarterback meetings with 806 00:32:35,548 --> 00:32:37,988 Speaker 1: the Rams or working the counter at the Wiener Circle 807 00:32:38,588 --> 00:32:41,828 Speaker 1: last week before Thursday Night Football, you and Jason Kelcey, 808 00:32:41,908 --> 00:32:44,548 Speaker 1: you make a special visit to the infamous Winer Circle 809 00:32:44,708 --> 00:32:46,988 Speaker 1: hot dog joint in Chicago. I don't know if you 810 00:32:47,028 --> 00:32:49,228 Speaker 1: know this. We actually had a run in with Good 811 00:32:49,228 --> 00:32:51,148 Speaker 1: Morning Football with them. We sent them a bunch of 812 00:32:51,228 --> 00:32:54,028 Speaker 1: angry run shirts and like just say, you know, show 813 00:32:54,068 --> 00:32:56,988 Speaker 1: our appreciation, and they were really flattered and very gracious. 814 00:32:56,988 --> 00:33:00,228 Speaker 5: Here's the video. Take a look, Kyle. I don't know 815 00:33:00,228 --> 00:33:01,188 Speaker 5: what I think. 816 00:33:01,228 --> 00:33:03,628 Speaker 10: You have a win number one and top down here 817 00:33:03,668 --> 00:33:07,428 Speaker 10: at Okay, so come and see me, buddy. 818 00:33:07,948 --> 00:33:09,788 Speaker 2: You do and have a nice day. 819 00:33:11,148 --> 00:33:15,628 Speaker 5: It's a nice message. Hearts beautiful. What was your experience 820 00:33:15,668 --> 00:33:15,828 Speaker 5: like that? 821 00:33:15,908 --> 00:33:21,148 Speaker 4: Which is a sweetheart? You know, hey, listen, it was great. 822 00:33:21,188 --> 00:33:23,868 Speaker 12: You know. We had a little Polish dogs and Chicago dogs. 823 00:33:23,908 --> 00:33:26,268 Speaker 12: We had some you know, cheese fries. I think she 824 00:33:26,268 --> 00:33:28,388 Speaker 12: said there was some extra juice on the Polish dogs. 825 00:33:28,428 --> 00:33:31,268 Speaker 12: I really enjoyed it. I can't really describe the juice 826 00:33:31,268 --> 00:33:35,668 Speaker 12: as she could. But hey, the Wiener Circle was great, man. 827 00:33:35,668 --> 00:33:37,428 Speaker 12: I mean, Jason and we've been in locker room skylf 828 00:33:37,508 --> 00:33:39,868 Speaker 12: so we've been in Wiener rectangles before, but that was 829 00:33:39,868 --> 00:33:41,068 Speaker 12: my first time in a Wier circle. 830 00:33:41,188 --> 00:33:41,828 Speaker 4: So it was great. 831 00:33:45,788 --> 00:33:46,588 Speaker 5: There's one way to. 832 00:33:48,028 --> 00:33:50,788 Speaker 7: The best, always always right here. 833 00:33:51,068 --> 00:33:53,228 Speaker 5: You're gonna be better at TV than football. By the time. 834 00:33:56,668 --> 00:34:01,788 Speaker 7: They said it, many appreciate, enjoyed a game. Man. 835 00:34:02,828 --> 00:34:03,348 Speaker 5: That's the man.