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Speaker 1: Warning.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode canade spoilers for House of the Dragons season two,

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Speaker 2: episode seven, So if you have not seen it, do not.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this, do not watch that.

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Speaker 3: Go Come here.

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Speaker 2: My name is Jason Concepcio and on Burnsday Night, and

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Speaker 2: welcome back to x Revision of the podcast where we

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Speaker 2: dive deep. It's your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop

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Speaker 2: culture coming to you from iHeart Podcasts or we're bringing

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Speaker 2: you two episodes a week, every Tuesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 4: In today's episode, both mine and Jason's voices are completely

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Speaker 4: messed up, fighting through a cold and I'm fighting through

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Speaker 4: going to San Diego Comic Con where my voice has died.

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Speaker 4: And that is a perfect segue to previously on what

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Speaker 4: we will be talking about San Diego Comic on News, Saniakamen.

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Speaker 1: Have you had of it? Have you heard of it?

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Speaker 5: Had news, big news, big news.

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Speaker 6: In the airlock, we are talking about the penultimate episode

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Speaker 6: of House of the Dragon season two, and Wow, what

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Speaker 6: an episode. If you love dragons, baby, you're gonna get

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Speaker 6: some dragon law in this episode. And well then we're

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Speaker 6: just going to be checking in on that scorecard, who's winning, who's.

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Speaker 1: Losing, that's right. But first, previously on.

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Speaker 2: Live from San Diego, here's the top headlines your San

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Speaker 2: Diego Comic Con. First Fantastic four First Steps full title

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Speaker 2: has been revealed. Also, first trailer has been revealed, which

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Speaker 2: shows us a glimpse of everybody's favorite overeater goat to practice.

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Speaker 6: Im Okay, So the footage is they are very specifically

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Speaker 6: calling it pre production footage aka, they haven't started shooting yet.

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Speaker 5: But new title. I find this title to be very interesting.

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Speaker 6: Kind of does it sound like it's we might be

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Speaker 6: getting some babies or potentially they're going to be the

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Speaker 6: first people to step foot on the moon.

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Speaker 5: I can't look out which way that they're thinking about it.

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Speaker 5: The trailer was really cool.

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Speaker 6: It was very like sixties retro futuristic vibes. It said,

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Speaker 6: you know, had read and he was doing a show

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Speaker 6: called Fantastic Science.

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Speaker 1: And he's like Bill, neither science exactly.

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Speaker 6: And it seems like they're already very established, very famous.

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Speaker 6: They head off onto a space mission, which we all

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Speaker 6: know and we know how that goes not well for them.

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Speaker 6: It ends up being kind of well, but they got

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Speaker 6: to get hit by an electric storm first and get

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Speaker 6: their scary powers, but yeah, we see Galactus at the end,

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Speaker 6: very classic Galactus, none of that smoke. Galactus from Rise

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Speaker 6: of the Silver Surfer looked great and uh look great.

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Speaker 6: I like the retro futuristic vibe, which Kevin Faige did

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Speaker 6: say it's going to be set in a retro futuristic

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Speaker 6: version of New York. So I think love that as

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Speaker 6: we had predict did it likely will be set in

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Speaker 6: a different universe and then will end up with them

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Speaker 6: going through the negative zone and ending up in the

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Speaker 6: MCU potentially, or maybe they are moving kind of away

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Speaker 6: from the MCU outside of the next I wonder, I

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Speaker 6: wonder if we might start getting more of a DCU

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Speaker 6: thing where there's these different movies like Deadpool and Wolverine,

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Speaker 6: which was a huge success this weekend, and that can

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Speaker 6: kind of exist in the peripherals of the MCU until

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Speaker 6: Kevin Figy decide, I bet you that's it.

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Speaker 5: I feel like that's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I read is well, he's like top two smartest people.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes it does but definitely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it does shit but he's but he's for a

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Speaker 2: much of Marvel's sister been the smartest guy there obviously

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Speaker 2: that the first family of that said, without their bank accounts, Like,

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Speaker 1: So I would I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: I think what they'll eventually end up doing is problems

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Speaker 2: in the six one six. We can't handle this alone.

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Speaker 2: Let's go go through the portal and get read and

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Speaker 2: then read in the family and then they come through.

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this leads into our next our next news topic,

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Speaker 6: so why don't you announce that and then we can

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Speaker 2: The Russo Brothers have returned, right, that's right. The Russter

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Speaker 2: Brothers are back after spending a lot of streamer money

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Speaker 2: on stuff that didn't really hit, and they are announced

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Speaker 2: as the directing team for Avengers the King Dynasty, which

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Speaker 2: is now called Avengers Doomsday and the second film, Avengers

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Speaker 2: Secret Wars. Listen, everybody knows and everybody knows who's seen Deadpool.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of a lull right now in the

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Speaker 1: Avengers.

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Speaker 2: Doomsday will premiere in May twenty twenty six, and then

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Speaker 2: Avenger's Secret Wars twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: It's a ways.

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Speaker 6: Ways away, but they are putting them back to the

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Speaker 6: which I love. So this is very interesting because not

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Speaker 6: Secret Wars, is my feeling, and I would assume that

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Speaker 6: Aron asad Ribbek version is very much a doom heavy story,

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Speaker 6: so you need to have him there.

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Speaker 5: This is very wild to me. I will say, you know.

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Speaker 6: There is a little chatter on the San Diego Comic

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Speaker 6: they're going back to the old stuff, a little bit

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Speaker 6: of desperation, potentially potentially especially when connected. But also it's

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Speaker 6: very normal for studios to say you have been successful before,

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Speaker 6: come and do this again.

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Speaker 2: I also feel like this is I look at this

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Speaker 2: I also think that despite fyy's recent comments that we're

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Speaker 6: I also personally think this is a good choice because look,

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Speaker 5: We weren't necessarily clear on how the Mutants played into it.

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Speaker 6: So I personally, as someone who loves the X Men,

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Speaker 2: Of people well I think you know, like, well, my

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Speaker 2: happened was okay announced as Vic Victor von Due. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he is returning to the MCU. He was wearing the mask.

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Speaker 2: He came out, he did the Tony Stark and look

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Speaker 1: This is obviously huge news. Hall H went crazy.

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Speaker 6: This is going to go down as one of those moments.

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Speaker 2: Now, my now outside of the room and this is

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree. At the same time, I think it

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Speaker 6: I do also think it is that it's that similar

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Speaker 6: out he made some weird movies, like the Doctor Doolittle

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Speaker 5: You should everyone should go watch it. It's very weird.

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Speaker 6: But like and then, in a similar way to Russo

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Speaker 6: I think coming back together makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 5: I do think they did it well.

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Speaker 6: They bought out maybe twenty five or thirty people, all

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Speaker 5: He's very dramatic, he's looking very doomish. He's wearing all green.

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Speaker 6: So this does lead to a few questions. Figi says,

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Speaker 6: it's not a Tony Stark variant. Great, I think that

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Speaker 1: I think that would have been a very very si.

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Speaker 5: We don't need variants.

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Speaker 6: But is this, you know, an infamous Iron Man type

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Speaker 6: the real Tony Stark is in a coma. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Back to something old school like the Iron maniac.

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Speaker 1: More of these more targeted bastards, I know.

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Speaker 2: Exactly where to get them, Okay, anywhere in a quarter

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Speaker 2: And now, Raniera, I think wisely here is seeing that

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Speaker 2: it's very clear, even though he doesn't say it, that

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00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: he's very very proud of his beautiful bastard son.

436
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's like this. He's like he's like acting old

437
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 6: Stusian and then he's like well done, and he just runs.

438
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 7: Away and little face like we go to heron Hall,

439
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 7: wait before we go, tarran Hall, I just want to

440
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 7: know what is your read on Sea Smoke approaching Adam,

441
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 7: because it's been the big conversation in the discord.

442
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 6: We know we're in a different space now where it's

443
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 6: not about complete Targarian blood. It's those those rules of

444
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 6: being changed. But what do you think he saw? What

445
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 6: do you think Sea Smoke saw an adam that brought

446
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 6: him to him and had him chase him down.

447
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: I think, well, first of all, we've never at a

448
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: situation in which in this world in which a living

449
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: rider was separated from their dragon and then the dragon

450
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: became interested or accepted a new writer.

451
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: You know, George R.

452
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: Martin has said that that's not possible. You can't break

453
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: that bond. It is very very plausible the Valerians being

454
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 2: of the blood of old Valeria.

455
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: And being long, long, long long.

456
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: Time allies, compatriots of the Targarian family, that the Valerians

457
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: have targeting blood. That's very very plausible. And so I think,

458
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: you know, I think Sea Smoke. This is maybe simplistic,

459
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 2: but I think Sea Smoke went, Okay, I've been rejected

460
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 2: by Corlis's son. Let me get another There's another way

461
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: out there like this smells like he smells like later,

462
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: So here we go.

463
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: We go to Hairnhall.

464
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: Lord Oscar, newly rising Lord Paramount of the Riverlands and

465
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: his attended river Lords have arrived at Heron Hall to

466
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: meet with Damon. Damon must win their fealty. This is

467
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: an important moment. Damon's been building an army. He's he've

468
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: been trying to build an army and he needs this

469
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: meeting in order to get the army. He meets first

470
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 2: with Grover alone. Oscar is young, but you have to say,

471
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: this kid is impressive.

472
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 6: He's badass.

473
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 2: He's very, very bad ass, and Damon tries to run

474
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: him over multiple times, and Oscar kind of gives him

475
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: that oh I'm so young, Oh I'm so young. But

476
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: when Oscar is in front of those river lords, he

477
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: is inspired, strengthened by the long history and position of

478
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: his house, and he starts to push back. He lets

479
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: Damon know first of all in.

480
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: This meeting that.

481
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: He doesn't like Damon. He just says, like, I don't

482
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: like you, but I've must honor my oath. Okay, but

483
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,239
Speaker 2: I want to tell you that I don't like you,

484
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 2: and I also I want to let you know that

485
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: the river lords fucking hate you. That's the landscape that

486
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: we're navigating right now. Okay, let's go in to meet

487
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: the river loards. They go into the God's Wood to

488
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: meet the river lords. Damon tries to run the meeting,

489
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: but Oscar but he's getting nothing. He's bombing over the river.

490
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 6: Lords bombing every single moment, not a single loft.

491
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: Oscar takes control and basically says, listen, I'm gonna honor

492
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: my oath. Damon, you need our army. That said, you've

493
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: been a piece of shit around here. You aided and

494
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: embedded and ordered your underling, Sir William Blackwood, to commit

495
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: war crimes against the Brackens that was fucked up, and

496
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: against our culture here in the Riverlands. So if you

497
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: want the army, you're gonna have to dispense justice to

498
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: your lackey, Sir Willem Blackwood, who is then seized by

499
00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: Oscar's guards, and William's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, my king, I.

500
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 6: Was just doing what you said.

501
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just following orders, my king. Tell him, like,

502
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: you're gonna set me free right now.

503
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: Damon is clearly unhappy about this turn of events, but

504
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: he also wastes absolutely no time in cutting off that head.

505
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 6: That sort out, and he just chops off that head.

506
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: All that's standing between me and the army I've been

507
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 2: trying to build and that we need to win this

508
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: war is about seven inches of neck, and folks, we've

509
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: got to separate that.

510
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 5: We got separate it.

511
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 6: I gotta say. This is a big power move for

512
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 6: Oscar Tully because he essentially lays out the lore of

513
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 6: the land to Damon and he says, look, if you

514
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 6: want ask to follow you, you gotta say I did

515
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 6: not approve this.

516
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 5: These war crimes.

517
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 6: Were bad, and I gotta cut the head off of

518
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 6: the guy who did it. And Damon follows this teenager's rule,

519
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 6: which I feel like for Damon in the past, we

520
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 6: would have seen him off Tully's head, you know, and

521
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 6: been like, don't tell me what to do. But here

522
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 6: he saw he was fighting a losing.

523
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: This is growth. This is growth from him.

524
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: He's realizing he needs other people. He goes back to

525
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: his chambers and he has a vision of his brother

526
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: the Older on his last legs bidensk Visaras.

527
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 6: Love to see Paddy Constanty come back.

528
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: Love to see him. He's sitting on the edge of

529
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: Damon's bed.

530
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: And he's sorry. If you can hear, she's dreaming.

531
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 6: She's dreaming of Visarahs, she's dreaming of.

532
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: Uh Vissaras is regarding his crown and he says to

533
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: his brother the crown crushes whoever.

534
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: Where is it?

535
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: And he says to Damon do you still want it?

536
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: And then we cut where you know, what will Damon do?

537
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: What is His decision is very interesting In the Red

538
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 2: keep Or, while is helping King Crispy with some physical therapy.

539
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: They've got to build up.

540
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 5: His strength is struggle in.

541
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: Fucking agony, and this is like, you know, it's there's

542
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: no pilates like you know, implements. There's no like levers

543
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: and bands. It's just like get up and stagger around.

544
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: He can barely do that. Leris comes in and is like,

545
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: let me help you. But but he's also like, listen.

546
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: We have to. You've got to ramp beat it up.

547
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: You got to ramp up the pet the implication being

548
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: like danger is coming and the and the king is

549
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: going to need to be able to flee from it.

550
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he even needs to just look like he

551
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 6: has his power back.

552
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: Just just bey.

553
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 6: Would be good and less likely to see him killed

554
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 6: off by his brother.

555
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: We go to drift Mark, where Corlis goes to see

556
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: his first mate Alan. He asks Alan to organize some

557
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: transport ships. This is part of Misaria's go Get the

558
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: Bastards plan. Corlis tells Alan that hey, by the way,

559
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: smokes new rider guess what your brother is, Adam.

560
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 5: Isn't that crazy?

561
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy?

562
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: Corlis wonders if Alan and Adam's mom had targear and her,

563
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: did you think, come on somebody, it's either Hamm or

564
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: it's you, Like, come on. He tells Alan that the

565
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: ships will be picking up those bastards, and Alan makes

566
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: sure that Corlis lets him know that listen, I'm about

567
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: that salty sailor life.

568
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 6: He's like, remember when you asked Baylor to be your

569
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 6: and she said you need someone of Sultan Sea. He's like,

570
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 6: that's me. I am, I'm Sultan Sea, baby. I don't

571
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 6: have any interest in getting on a dragon. I also

572
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 6: like that, he says. He's like Adam was always looking

573
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 6: for something else, like he was not comfortable on the boats.

574
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 5: But now guess what he's gone.

575
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 6: He's got that Targarian blood in him, and I am here,

576
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 6: Sultan Sea.

577
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 5: Ready. I'm ready, baby, whatever you need.

578
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: In the veil, Raina and the babes, the young Targerian kids,

579
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: are setting off from the Iron for their ship that's

580
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: gonna take him east. But Rena is like, called to

581
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: look for this wild dragon, and she separates herself from

582
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: the group and goes in search of that wild dragon

583
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: in the Kingswood. Alison's just chilling. Ophelia like, images.

584
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 5: Is she gonna be.

585
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 6: Around us out? She just swimming.

586
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: We don't know, we don't know. Ricard is like, we

587
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: go back and she's like, shut up.

588
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 6: She's like, I'm staying here.

589
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: I'm staying babe. On Dragonstone, Jace gives Rania hell. Finally

590
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: for the Bastards, oh.

591
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: He even he drops a these people.

592
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, Jace, you should have seen this coming, my friend.

593
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 6: You were like, I'm a Bosted, so other Bostards could

594
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 6: do this too. But in his mind he's like, I

595
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 6: only mean rich Bostards. I don't mean like these poverty

596
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 6: stricken Bostards.

597
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: I think Jace is. I think I do think Jace

598
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: despite the fact that this is a very personal issue

599
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: for him, which he's very biased about, Like he notes

600
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: poignantly that he's had to deal with these questions about

601
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 2: his lineage his whole life, and the only thing that

602
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: kind of stayed those rumors the fact that he claimed

603
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: a dragon, which suggests everyone that he must be a Targarian. Right,

604
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 2: So if Bastards now with no obvious Targarian lineage are

605
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: writing dragons.

606
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: What does that mean for all of us?

607
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 5: And does he still get to be.

608
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: The A yeah, And then he raises a really actually

609
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: important question, which is what if this common riff raff decides,

610
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: now that they have dragons, they want more, that they

611
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: actually want to run things. That's a good point, but

612
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: Jase is so upset about it, it's hard to deal

613
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: with that. Misaria hands Alan a message and orders him

614
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: to see it delivered to her agent in King's Landing.

615
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: It gets to her spy and then her spy network.

616
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: Swings into action.

617
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: Clearly she's still got a lot of agents who are

618
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: loyal to Damon and thus the Black cause on the

619
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: City Watch. They go out and they gather up all

620
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: these these mongrels. We go to the house of Hugh

621
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: the Hammer, middle class blacksmith in the Capitol, and he's

622
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: telling his wife a very interesting story that his mother

623
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: was a Targerian sex worker who claimed that she was

624
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: the sister of Baylon the Brave, thus the daughter of

625
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: j Harry's and that she always told him this story.

626
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: And Hugh tells his wife, like, I have to find

627
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 2: out IF's true. I gotta go try and claim this dragon.

628
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: Now what's interesting is this, This means potentially that his

629
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: mother was Sarah Targerian. Sarah Targarian, so Jahara's had a

630
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: lot of kids, but obviously ran into the same kind

631
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: of succession problems that many targetans fall into. And you know,

632
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: some of his kids died, some of the kids were jerks,

633
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: and Sarah was just like I want child like, could

634
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: not be controlled. She was always getting into these scandals,

635
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: hooking up with members of the city Watch.

636
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: They sent her away.

637
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: To old Town to like go join a nunnery. She

638
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: ran away, ran apparently to lease where there she then

639
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: went to work in a pleasure house, and you know,

640
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: gave birth to several sons, each fathered apparently by like

641
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: different members of Essos's high society. And it would seem

642
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: that would seem to suggest that Hue the Hammer is

643
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: like the grandchild of King Jaharis the Conciliator, which is

644
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: quite interesting.

645
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 5: Yes, very interesting.

646
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 6: Also, I thought they did a really good job here

647
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 6: where he kind of talks about the shame, like he

648
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 6: was so ashamed.

649
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 5: Of his mother.

650
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 6: But now this makes it seem like she was telling

651
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 6: the truth. I also big reveal here for those who've

652
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 6: been kind of following the small folk part of the story.

653
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 6: His daughter did pass away off street guide. They didn't

654
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 6: manage to save her. His wife doesn't want her to go.

655
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: That wanted to go.

656
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 6: The bag of lettuce was not enough. He killed multiple

657
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 6: people for that lettuce and it did not deliver. But

658
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 6: he goes. Also, I really liked the Olf. The White

659
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 6: is like, really scared to actually go and claim the dragon.

660
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 6: He just wanted it to be a drinking story.

661
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: He didn't want to.

662
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: I always taught this, but like, can do I really

663
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: have Do I really have the guts to put up

664
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: her shut?

665
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a quick brick.

666
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: And we're back.

667
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: The pastards all arrive on Dragonstone. The Order of the

668
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Dragon Keepers.

669
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: An ancient order with roots that go back all the

670
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: way to Old Valria, go on strike.

671
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: They say this is fucked up. This is terrible. The

672
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: blood of the.

673
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: Dragon that you are sullying with this, you're dishonoring the

674
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: magic of Old Valeria, and we can't watch this happen.

675
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: And they quit.

676
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: Rinera is like, whatever, sure, yeah, I got the gods

677
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: are on my side. As her queen's guard watches very

678
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: alert in this room full of poor folks. She basically says, hey, folks,

679
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: we're gonna do something really crazy and dangerous and totally experimental.

680
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: This has never been done and it's but it's gonna

681
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: be worth it because if we're successful, there's gonna be

682
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: complete peace, everybody's gonna be families will thrive. Everybody is

683
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: gonna get like a new car, wonderful house, and like

684
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: a chicken every pot, sandwiches every day.

685
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be perfect, perfect, perfect utopia if we win.

686
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: And we're gonna start with varmathor they call him Bronze Fury,

687
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: and by the way, we're gonna start right now. There's

688
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: no no like does anybody need a drink or the

689
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: bathroom or like a little bit more of like a

690
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: talking to going right now.

691
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 6: It's very interesting because I think the way this sequence

692
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 6: is done is so brilliant.

693
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: Because while we.

694
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 6: Are team Black here, we've said this many times, yes,

695
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 6: we do want to support Venera in her rightful claim,

696
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 6: there is an issue here which they sum up perfectly,

697
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 6: which is, while Veneer needs the small folk, she has

698
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 6: zero interest in their life, in whether or not this

699
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 6: is gonna work, other than for her own personal gain.

700
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 6: So what we see here is her throw them into

701
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 6: the dragon pit and then trap them in there.

702
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: As she watches completely wrapped from the lord kills basically

703
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: everybody except for Q.

704
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 6: I texted because I like Vermathor is literally like toasting

705
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 6: people up, setting them on fire, and then eating them.

706
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 6: Like he's not just eating them, He's like, oh, I'd

707
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 6: like this one to be a little bit roasty, toasty,

708
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 6: set him on fire, gobble him up. But like you said,

709
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 6: Vermothhor likes you.

710
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: Vermothor likes you a lot. Says you smell like Stera.

711
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: And by the way, Vermothor the mount of King Jaharis,

712
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 2: So I think conformation, I smell, I smell my former rider.

713
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: Let's go.

714
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: Both flees through the tunnels, ends up in silverwing. Shaver

715
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: steps on an egg. I'm thinking that's it for both,

716
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: but instead silver one was like, you're cool.

717
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: I like you. We're in kings Landing.

718
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: The small console is discussing orment high towers increasingly perilous

719
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: march from old Town Alice. He is beset on all

720
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: sides by Beesberry raiding parties. Recall, of course, that sir

721
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: Lymon Beesberry when he dared speak up about the usurpation

722
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: that was taking place at the wake of the death

723
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 2: of King of Saras was Summer summarily like murdered by

724
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: the Green decision makers and House Beesbury is naturally very pissed.

725
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: So they are laying siege to the High Tower Army

726
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: as it marches to the east. Good news though, Darren

727
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 2: and to Sarion are a very potent partnership, we learn.

728
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: Then there's a commotion outside because a dragon has been

729
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: sighted over the Aim and rushes to Vagar pulse pounding sequence.

730
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 2: Here Vegar gives chase, but as they come to within

731
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: sight of dragon stone, Aim and squints sees, oh shit,

732
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: there's like multiple is that that looks like vermathor oh

733
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: shit is that silver wing? And the Queen's serraxes, Oh no,

734
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: what are we gonna do? Like I we have to

735
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: turn around as three on one and so, Aimed, in

736
00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: fear for his and Vegar's life, pulls Vagar. They turn

737
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: around as Raniero watches Aim and flee with a look

738
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: of like pure hatred and get ready because here I come. Yeah,

739
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: vibe to her.

740
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 6: She was like, that is such a fantastic final shot.

741
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 6: Where we get to see Ranera just being like, oh,

742
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 6: remember when you killed my son. I guess remember that,

743
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 6: because I'm coming.

744
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, now, listen, we mentioned notes. I'll

745
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: give you a note. I think that you can take

746
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: ten minutes after the bastards arrive on Dragonstone and kind

747
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: of like do a little bit of an interview process

748
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: and then go, Okay.

749
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: Here's like the top ten that we want. This is

750
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: like the S tier.

751
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 2: If they get a dragon, Okay, we're very very pleased.

752
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: Then here's like the A tier. If they get a dragon,

753
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: we feel good about it, with some reservations. Then there's

754
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 2: like the B tier. If they get a dragon, we're

755
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: gonna have to really watch them and then you know,

756
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: and so on and so forth, rather than just be

757
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: like put them all in there and whoever we get,

758
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: we'll deal with it later. I think there could have

759
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: been a little bit more like driver's ed process around this.

760
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: But that said, chats drew near. They got it done

761
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: and very very exciting, uh turn of events for Team Black.

762
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 6: I will also say I agree with you. I also

763
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 6: think if they didn't think that far ahead, they could

764
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 6: have had a debriefing afterwards, you know, they could have

765
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 6: been like, Okay, off, you got one, Hugh, you got one.

766
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 6: How's it, how's it feeling? What's going on? Instead Alf's

767
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 6: just like.

768
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: Flying around like well, the greatest time of his life.

769
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: It reminds me of that.

770
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: There's a quote from Mad Men where Bert says of

771
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: miss Blankenship, one of the secretaries. There was this longtime

772
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: secretary who apparently was having an affair with back in

773
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: like the twenties or whatever, that she was born in

774
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 2: a barn and she died in a skyscraper.

775
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: She was an astronaut.

776
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: And I think it's like Alf could he would he

777
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: never imagined this would be possible flight, like to be

778
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: flying over the narrow sea, over kings, landing like on

779
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: the top on the back of a dragon. He's reacting

780
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: the way you should react, which is like, whoa, this.

781
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: Is awesome, this is really cool.

782
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: And that was such a cool reaction to see because

783
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: it's definitely I guess aimed young Aimond had that reaction too,

784
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: but like to see a quote unquote commoner have this

785
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: reaction was really really fun.

786
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 6: Let's talk about the dragon in the room, which I

787
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 6: do think has been a big topic of conversation in

788
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 6: our discord this week, which is.

789
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 5: Rainer looks like she's gonna claim sheeps.

790
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 6: Oh yes, okay, which means it seems like maybe we

791
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 6: won't get Nettles this season, or we'll get a different

792
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 6: version of Nettles, or will Rainer take over the mantle

793
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 6: of Nettles. What's your thought on.

794
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 5: The Rainer sheep stealer situation.

795
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: So a little bit of book spoilery conversation here, So

796
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: if you are just a show person, feel free.

797
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: To skip ahead.

798
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: For the next five minutes or so, we're gonna talk

799
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: about characters from the book version of House the Dragon,

800
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: Fire and Blood. Yeah, I think probable that Nettles will

801
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: not be in the show, and that they're looking to

802
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: give part of Nettle's storyline to Raina. Certainly, the claiming

803
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: part that is, I mean the sheep bones certainly heavily

804
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: suggests the book version of the sheep Stealer, this wild

805
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 2: dragon called the sheep Stealer, and then the other part

806
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 2: of her storyline to Adam.

807
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: That's what it seems like to me.

808
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, And in the books, the reason Nettles is such

809
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 6: a big deal as she is apparently a rider with

810
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 6: no targarian blood, though my understanding is there are readers

811
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 6: that have believed that she was maybe Damon's Bostard door.

812
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 6: There are all different readings of the situation. There's also

813
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 6: a romantic reading, so I would say that the Raina,

814
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 6: they could also translate that to Raina having the connection

815
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 6: because of Daemon. But yeah, this is very controversial in

816
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 6: the discord and in the book reading community.

817
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 5: I'm excited to see where they go.

818
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 6: I love rainaw so.

819
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: I love rain as well.

820
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: Nettles certainly plays an important part in the warst to

821
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: Come in a variety of different ways, and so it'll

822
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: be interesting to see if indeed Nettles is not part

823
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: of the show, just which parts of her storyline end

824
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: up were or end up not being in at all.

825
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: So very interesting to see. Let's go to the scorecard.

826
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: So this is where we are. We're Rosie.

827
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 2: You are at a current draw Green versus Black three three.

828
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: I am four to two Green. Although I did a

829
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: note that Team Black on paper is putting together a

830
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: really really deep fantasy squad. Where do you sit now, Rosie?

831
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: After episode two a.

832
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 6: Se, I think we have to say that Team Black

833
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 6: is coming in strong.

834
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Raniera's plan has come to fruition.

835
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 6: She found the dragon seeds, She's got two more dragons,

836
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 6: even though we get the teas of Darn and to

837
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 6: Sarian for Team Green. You know, obviously we know that

838
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 6: Helena has dream fire, though we haven't seen her kind

839
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 6: of fly into battle in that way yet. I think

840
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 6: this is definitely a Team Black win, though I will

841
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 6: not you know, we often come at this with a caveat.

842
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 5: I think that Ranera's deep belief.

843
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 6: That this is somehow the plan of the gods rather

844
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 6: than the fact that Targarians have just been going and

845
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 6: sleeping with people around the kingdom, and this is kind

846
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 6: of a stroke of luck that is giving me cause

847
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 6: for concern going into the future. So I do think

848
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 6: this is a Team Black win, but I don't see

849
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 6: it necessarily going well in the long term.

850
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: I think it's a big Team Black win, call it

851
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: on my scorecard for three Black, although again on paper,

852
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: I think Black is looking like the bigger threat to

853
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 2: win the whole thing.

854
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: That would depend.

855
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: Heavily on Damon's ability to actually build up the army.

856
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: Now that he is gained the loyalty of the river Lands,

857
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: He's actually got to put that army together now because

858
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: in the field, you know, you have the Lanist army,

859
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: you have the High Tower Army, you have the Kingmaker,

860
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: Sir Kristen Cole and his ragtag for still operating, and

861
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: as of now the Blacks have no boots on the

862
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: ground except for the Northmen who are still marching all

863
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: the way down.

864
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: We'll take them a while.

865
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: So but you're now looking at a heavy advantage in dragons,

866
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: which is important.

867
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: I will say.

868
00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: Although I find Jason's general framing of his concerns quite distains,

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Speaker 2: I think he raises some important concerns about the overturning

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Speaker 2: of this the long standing social hierarchy. Listen, I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's a great hierarchy. I think it's imperfect. I

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Speaker 2: think it's even bad. I also think that like stepping

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Speaker 2: willy nilly into a into a future in which nobody

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Speaker 2: knows what will happen, is also very dangerous. And I

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Speaker 2: think that what we know Hughes seems like a good guy.

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Speaker 2: Do I worry about off getting a dragon?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Right? And one of the biggest ones like can't

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Speaker 1: we like trade down?

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Speaker 2: Like I think I think there should have been like

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Speaker 2: a trade down thing where like Raniera and Jace get

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Speaker 2: the we go and switch out and we get the

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Speaker 2: bigger ones. Of course that can't happen, but like it's

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Speaker 2: just there are there are there are reasons to be worried.

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Speaker 2: And that's even before we start talking about Rania's turned

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Speaker 2: towards like messianic confidence. There is the fact that we're

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Speaker 2: giving these like X factors, non known entity people, the

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Speaker 2: most powerful weapons in the world, nuclear bombs basically, and

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Speaker 2: just kind of saying, well, I hope that they stay

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Speaker 2: loyal to us, Like I hope that happens. That's very concerning,

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Speaker 2: And though I disagree with Jace's way saying it, I

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Speaker 2: think he raised an important issue. He does that said,

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Speaker 2: big big win for Team Black in this episode. On

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Speaker 2: the next few episodes of X Ray Vision, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: be diving into more news out of San Diego Comic Con.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be interviewing the legend bla blah Bump of

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Speaker 2: Goose Bump's fame rl Stein. We're gonna be talking about

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Speaker 2: the finale of the Boys. We're gonna be talking about

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Speaker 2: alien Romulus, all that and more.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: Bye, X Ray Vision is hosted by Jason Kisumsion and

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Speaker 2: Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Executive

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Speaker 2: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer

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Speaker 2: is a booze Afar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent and

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Speaker 2: Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez.

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Speaker 6: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Laude. Kenny Goodman

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Speaker 6: and Heidi our discord moderator.