1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: And we welcome you into Cleveland Brown's headquarters here in Baria, Ohio. 2 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Jason Gibbs, along with Brown senior staff writer Andrew Gribble, 3 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: we are in the media room directly above us the 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: war room, normally for drafting, but for the last few 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: days a lot of meetings and a lot of things happening. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: The Browns fifty three man roster is set dot dot 7 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: dot for now for the next yeah, it is. It 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: will be a fluid situation. But let's get you up 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: to speed with what we do know at this time 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: and what has happened today. The Browns UH making two 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: trades right before the four pm UH cut down to 12 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: fifty three deadline. Don't forget as well. On Friday they 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: had traded quarterback da would blow to Detroit. UH. Had 14 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: swapped some picks for years from now swaps. Yeah, who 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: knows where we will be at that point. UH. Today though, 16 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: the Browns active and they went out and got a 17 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: wide receiver, Taiwan Taylor. UH. The Browns will receive him, 18 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: the Titans receiving on this closed draft pick. We've seen 19 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: in a lot of different things, a lot of speculation 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: as to what that pick is. But nothing confirmed yet 21 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: from either side. Taylor five eleven, two hundred five pounds 22 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: entering his third NFL season out of Western Kentucky. Originally 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: a third round pick by Tennessee. He's appeared in twenty 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: nine games with nine starts, has fifty three career receptions 25 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: for six ninety seven yards and two touchdowns. Last year 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: thirty seven catches for four hundred and sixty six yards 27 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: and one touchdown in thirteen contest. That was trade number one. 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: Trade number two. Today the Browns go out and they 29 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: get more help on that offensive line. They trade for 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: guard Justin McCrae from the Green Bay Packers that will 31 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: also get a raft pick. In twenty The Packers received 32 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: a draft picked as well in McCrae six three fifteen pounds, 33 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: his third NFL season out of Central Florida. Originally signed 34 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: with Tennessee as an undrafted free agent, and he has 35 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: appeared in twenty five regular season games with thirteen starts. 36 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: Last year twelve games with five starts for the Packers. Uh. 37 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: John Dorsey wheeling and dealing here, and we we don't 38 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: even got into the cuts yet today, GRIBs, but making 39 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: some moves and fortifying some more positions here. Yeah, And 40 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: I think this is kind of a couple of reasons 41 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 1: that these kind of moves happen. One, these kind of 42 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: trades have now become pretty common in the NFL, especially 43 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: with the rosters going from nine to fifty three instead 44 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: of having that middle middle cutdown. I think that for 45 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: a team like the Browns, who are now not at 46 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: the number one waiver acclaim priority, these are the kind 47 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: of moves you can make u to ensure you get 48 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: the guys you want to get because I think that 49 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's a feeling that potential both of those 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: guys who you've gotten the trades, and even the one 51 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: on Thursday, those guys might have hit the wire and 52 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: you at the number seventeen position, Uh, you know, the 53 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: odds are you might not get any of those guys. 54 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: So I think all of these moves were depth related. 55 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: The most intriguing one to me is Taylor because I 56 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: think we we watched this entire training camp and always 57 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: said was this is a really good wide receivers from 58 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: one to ten, but clearly John Dorsey thinks they could 59 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: get better, especially with Taylor's skill set. He is is 60 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: more of that kind of slot shifty kind of guy. 61 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how quickly he moves into 62 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: the rotation and gets up to speed here. And if 63 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: he helps on special teams, one would think they will 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: get him up to speed quite quickly. On that part 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: part of the things. I take a look at that 66 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver acquisition of Taiwan Taylor, and I look at 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: it and I go, well, the offense and the wide 68 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: receiver room played well up until that Tampa Bay game, 69 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: and then Tampa Bay they struggled a little bit, and 70 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: even into the final preseason game against Detroit, the guys 71 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: at the back end competing for those spots. It just 72 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: it never really seemed to come together. And they cut 73 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Jalen Strong earlier in the week. But now uh feeling 74 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: the need to go out and maybe get someone else 75 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: because everybody wasn't doing what they needed to be doing. Yeah, 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: and it's it's interesting. I think you went and there 77 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: was a player out there who got hurt in d J. Montgomery, 78 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: who might have found a spot on this roster. I 79 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: think Derrick Willis has played some games, not a ton, 80 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: but you get someone in Taylor who has a lot more, 81 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: has some real experience at at and can really fill 82 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: a need that you might have lacked. I mean, you 83 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: don't O'Dell and Jarvis are shorter, shiftier receivers, but this 84 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: team maybe didn't have a guy that was that maybe 85 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: your true slot kind of guy that can fill in. 86 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: And you know, you gave a look to Braxy Miller, 87 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: but as a quick week ten days or so, and 88 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: and you obviously felt more comfortable going with Taylor. So again, 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: we've we've been a part of this almost every year, 90 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: getting in a new wide receiver at this time of year. 91 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: You don't need him to be your number one guy, 92 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: but there's a ants uh he might be out there 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: Week one and playing maybe not a significant role, but 94 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: playing some kind of role out there, especially with five guys. 95 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: If you only five wide receivers, almost all those those 96 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: guys are going to be active for game day. Yeah, 97 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: I would definitely agree with that. I think that justin McCrae. 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at that acquisition, the acquisition 99 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: of Wyatt Teller on Thursday from Buffalo, clearly John Dorsey, 100 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens and company feel that offensive line is not 101 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: where they needed to be yet. Yeah, and and McCrae 102 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: especially has a lot of experience. Uh, he's more of 103 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: a veteran maybe than Teller. But it's just gonna be 104 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: interesting see how you really evaluate this competition. I think 105 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: Kush is going to be your guy, uh, barring some 106 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: kind of crazy change in practice this week, but now 107 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: you have some options if it doesn't go so well 108 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: in those games. That that's basically how I see it 109 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: is that you're you're gonna evaluate Kush in the games 110 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: and then maybe make some tweaks if if it's not 111 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: working the way you wanted to work. So those are 112 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: the trades that have happened, the Browns making four trades 113 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: one Thursday, one Friday, and to today, and we'll see 114 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: what happens here. Uh. One would think John Dorsey probably 115 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: isn't done and it's probably burning up the phone line 116 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: still uh to figure out maybe some other guys that 117 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: might be out there. And again, this roster is very 118 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: fluid and will change a couple of times, if not 119 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: more than a couple of times between now and next 120 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: Sunday when we play Tennessee. Yeah, no, it's the last 121 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: few years this team has added five players on RUSS 122 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: on waiver claim day. I mean, I guess I would 123 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: be surprised if the number was that high. You don't 124 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: usually see teams in the seventeenth priority getting five players, 125 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: but you could potentially see a player too. I mean, 126 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what positions do you see. I mean, 127 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: I think we've talked about tight end a lot in 128 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: the preseason is as a potential place where maybe you 129 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: see someone out there that you think can help you out, 130 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: but it's harder to to really identify which room you're 131 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: looking at. I mean, you've got six safeties on this team. 132 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: That gave John Dorsey talk to me about that a 133 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: little bit ago, just how the changing nature of the 134 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: NFL Steve Wolkess defense. There's a reason why there are 135 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: six safeties on this team, so you might not deviate 136 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: from that. But you always look at where the weird 137 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: numbers are. And so there's eleven dbs you could usually 138 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: get by a ten and then we mentioned ten offensive lineman. 139 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: That's that's a weird number. So we'll see if the 140 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: changes now or in a week or a couple of weeks. 141 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: But tomorrow is a day where there's still gonna be 142 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: a lot of change on the league. So the roster 143 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: and we will break down the positions and numbers and 144 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: and go through those in just a few minutes. But 145 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: here is what we do know. These are some of 146 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: the bigger names that were affected today in cut down Day. 147 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: Contracts terminated included a linebacker Ray Ray Armstrong, punter Britain 148 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: cole Quit, defensive tackle Carl Davis, tackle Brian Witzman. Some 149 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: of the players waived that stood out today tight end 150 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: set the Valve UH, safety j T Hassel who had 151 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: made some plays and had a great story but just 152 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: couldn't make correct that final fifty three wide receiver Ishmael 153 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: Hyman Uh the only draft pick to be cut this 154 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: year on cut down Day, Defensive back Donnie Lewis Jr. 155 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: Wide receiver Braxton Miller, running back a j. O Lett, 156 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver Damon Shy Giuseppe a great story, just not enough, 157 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: not enough to make this fifty three man roster. And 158 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: then Derrick Willis from last year not making it, Uh waived, 159 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: Slash injured, Kyle Kalis and Joe Carriage both with concussions 160 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: on the reserve list, Philip Gaines, the defensive back with 161 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: a concussion late in the game on Thursday night, and 162 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: then the reserve suspended list, Antonio Callaway, Kareem hunt Enrico 163 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: gathers what stands out to you from the names that 164 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: we just talked about. I think the most interesting, Yeah, 165 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: there's a couple. The most interesting was bringing coal quit. 166 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that was the one that was 167 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: making the I think that was the one move that 168 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: out of all these, was the most surprising because I 169 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: think that everyone just kind of assumed Colquitt was established veteran. 170 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: He was a great punter last year. Uh, Jamie Gillan 171 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: was a great story. But I don't know if a 172 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: lot of people gave him a chance. But I will 173 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: say he punted really well throughout training camp, had a 174 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: phenomenal night in Tampa. Took a little bit of a 175 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: step back in the game this past Thursday, I thought, 176 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: but he it's it's a combination to things. I don't 177 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: think he punted as well that night. He was also 178 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: working with a full unit of special teams where almost 179 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: all of those guys are no longer on the team, 180 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: So so some of those returns got maybe a little 181 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: bit longer than than they might have during the regular season. 182 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: But it's it's just they clearly like the upside that 183 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: he has the potential, and I think the improvement that 184 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: they saw with him from the moment that he got here. 185 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: I think Derrek willis uh maybe a guy that you 186 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: maybe try to get back. I don't know if he's 187 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: eligible for a practice squad slot or not. Yeah, I 188 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: think so. I think so. Um maybe an A. J 189 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: ol Lett uh j T Hassel set the valve just 190 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, he talked to him earlier in the week 191 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: and he said, it's up to the guys upstairs. You know, 192 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: I've got a show enough. And you know, a player 193 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: that has spent a lot of time in the trainer's 194 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: room and spent a lot of this preseason in the 195 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: trainer's room, and I think it might have ended up 196 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: costing him overall. And as the Browns keep three tight 197 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: ends and not four, and Farrell Brown makes ahead ahead 198 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: of yeah, you feel you feel bad for the guy 199 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: because it's I hate throwing around the label injury prone, 200 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: especially when this guy's last when the VAL's last injury 201 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: was a concussion. Really, there's nothing you can do about that. 202 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: You show good uh safety awareness with that, keep him 203 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: up feel as long as he needs to be, uh, 204 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: But to me, getting rid of him Uh raises the 205 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: question on where do you go with having a guy 206 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: that can play fullback, because I don't know if we've 207 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: seen much of Farrell Brown as as kind of that 208 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: blocking back out of the backfield. Certainly not gonna see 209 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: David n joke or do you meet your hairs back there? 210 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: So I wonder if that is the move that is 211 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: still left to be made, because, uh, that's something we've 212 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: seen a lot out of in this offense throughout training 213 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: camp and in the preseason. Uh, And I don't right now, 214 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: I just don't know who's going to be the guy 215 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: to do it. Was there any other name that stood 216 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: out to you, guys that that maybe played played at 217 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: that level that surprised you a little bit? Uh? You know, 218 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: I thought I was among the people who thought Braxy 219 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: Miller had a really good chance to make this team. 220 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: Uh that was up until you make the trade for 221 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: Taywan Taylor. So I thought his skill set was something 222 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: that this team really didn't have. But I think that 223 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: Taylor gives you someone who's experienced a little bit more 224 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: at that position. I'll go all also with an Anthony Zettel, 225 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: I thought that he it's just kind of an established pro. 226 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's a numbers game, and he got 227 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: caught up and then he'll he'll definitely land somewhere tomorrow. Uh. 228 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: And at the it was not the names that were cut. 229 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: It was the fact that your defensive tackles played so 230 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: good that you had to keep uh, you had to 231 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: keep nine defensive linemen. I think that was something that 232 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: I speculated you could do, but I didn't know if 233 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: you could actually do it with the numbers. I didn't 234 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: know if we're gonna make it work. But you had, 235 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: after all this offseason of hand ringing trying to bring 236 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: in these veteran defensive tackles, you had a lot of 237 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: guys rise to the occasion and played really really well, uh, 238 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: led by Devereah Lawrence as among those backups. But you're 239 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: on a team that that's probably gonna play a lot 240 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: of nickel and i'me and you've got five defensive tackles 241 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: on this team, all of whom earned their role on 242 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: the spot. All right, So let's break down the roster 243 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: for you as it stands right now. This is Saturday 244 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: and about five thirty, so a lot can change between 245 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: now and when we talked to you. Again on Tuesday 246 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: on Cleveland Browns Daily and on Monday when we resume 247 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: practice and officially begin preparations for Tennessee defensive tackle five tackles. Uh, 248 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned it. All of them played exceptionally well, you 249 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: couldn't hide Devereaux, Lawrence, Daniel Equality really had a good camp. 250 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: Travon Colie, a guy that thirty one starts in the 251 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: last two year's Yeah, but didn't play in that fourth 252 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: preseason game. And we've seen guys not playing the fourth 253 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: preseason the game that we thought were safe that ended 254 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: up not being safe, and he ends up being safe. 255 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: So a lot of experience there. It's just gonna be again. 256 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: The things are gonna evolve as the year goes on. Uh. 257 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: You know, some guys are harder to hide at this 258 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: time of year than they are in a couple of weeks. 259 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: So you wonder, I mean, there's there's moves that that 260 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: will This roster keeps turning no matter what. It'll be 261 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: interesting though, if you do keep five defensive tackles for 262 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: a while throughout the season. But it's a it's a 263 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: punishing position and your you might be wondering when a 264 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: guy gets banged up, but you're gonna need some some 265 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: guys to play. Only four defensive ends Myles Garrett, Olivia, Vernon, 266 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: Chris Smith, Chad Thomas h to be expected linebacker wise, 267 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: Kirksey and Mack Wilson, Showbert Cioni Talkie Talkie, Jannard Avery, 268 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: Darius Taylor. Um, I would think that they might need 269 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: to see a little bit more out of that same 270 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: linebacker position. Well, I mean you mentioned the defensive ends. 271 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: You can count Genard Avery basically as a defensive end. 272 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: He plays a lot at that position. And you also 273 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: with we saw Darius Taylor in that Tampa Bay game 274 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: because the Browns ran out their based defense, But we 275 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: also saw a lot of this team running four to 276 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: five throughout the preseason and probably expect more of that 277 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: going into the season. So I think that the numbers 278 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: there are really just a reflection of what kind of 279 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: defensive team is gonna run at corner. You kept five, 280 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: I think pleasantly surprised. I mean, if you're Tavy or Thomas, 281 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: you're having quite the party for now and we'll see 282 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: what happens. But five five corners, Denzel Terrence, Mitchell, Greedy Williams, 283 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: t J. Kerry and uh and Taavy or Thomas there, 284 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: but you also have those six safeties that will get 285 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: to your right and I think, as we learned when 286 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: there were some injuries during the preseason, that Eric Murray 287 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: the safety can play nickel corner. The question I have 288 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: is what happens if Phil Games. Phil Games doesn't get 289 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: hurt on Thursday. He was someone who was definitely in 290 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: the mix to make this team, make the roster as 291 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: he could play Nickel can play outside. Uh, but it's 292 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: just unfortunately timed injury for him. Yeah, at the safety spot, 293 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: three free safeties, three strong safeties. Were you surprised that 294 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: they that they kept sick? With Justin Burrst making the squad, 295 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: it was just like the defensive tackle team. I was 296 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: one thing I was doing, how do how do you 297 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: end up keeping six? But they did it, and I 298 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: think that it really is a reflection of what what 299 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: you saw in the preseason. All six of those guys, 300 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: at one point or another, we're playing with the first 301 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: or second team defense. There's no third team guys here. 302 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: Justin Burris is the most interesting one to me because 303 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: he was a cornerback last year. He's never played safety, 304 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: but he's really looked good, and I think we always 305 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: the intentnas go up. Whenever a coordinator a coach mentioned 306 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: a guy I'm prompted. In the spring, it was Jermaine Whitehead. Uh, 307 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: and then this August Steve Wolkes mentioned Justin Burrus kind 308 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: of imprompted. I would think he's essentially white Head's backup. 309 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: Uh can play that versatile safety role, but uh, it 310 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: gives you a lot of options, but both you can 311 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: get away with five corners, especially one in Tabier Thomas, 312 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: who's pretty much special teams exclusive, because you have Eric 313 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: Murray and Mary's Randall who can play corner free on 314 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football. Three quarterbacks Baker, Drew Stanton, 315 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert does make the squad. Three running backs with 316 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: with Hunt also on the reserve slash suspended list, Nick Chubb, 317 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: Dontrelle Hilliard, and Ernest Johnson. Hilliard and Johnson probably two 318 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: of the better stories from this year's training camp by far. 319 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: Both played really well and Johnson earned his earned his 320 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: spot more as much as anyone those teams well, and 321 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: I would say both going to be counted on heavily 322 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: in the punt and kick return games. Yes, wide receivers five. 323 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: Were you surprised only five? I was, And I think 324 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: it is a reflection of their confidence in Damian Ratley 325 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: because right now, you're, as we mentioned earlier, you're not 326 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: just going into this season counting on Damion Ratley. You're 327 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: counting on him to be active on game day. That 328 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: means he's gonna have to play most of the special 329 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: teams uh and get on the field occasionally. But also 330 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: that that to me is a reflection of this team 331 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: might be in twelve personnel lot with two tight ends 332 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: and then you've got Jarvison, O'Dell and that just might 333 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: be enough. And that's where this team strength ultimately lots. 334 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: So it's Odell, Jarvis Landry, Richard Higgins, Damien Ratley and 335 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: uh Taywan Taylor. Obviously Willie is the odd man out 336 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: there and we'll see where he ends up over the 337 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: next forty eight hours. Tight Ends, we talked about it 338 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: and the joku Harris Farrell Brown makes it and I 339 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: think a lot of Farrell Brown has to do with 340 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: special teams. Yeah, he's a He's again that is the 341 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: biggest has to be the biggest tight end room in 342 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: the NFL with the size I mean the Jokus big, 343 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: not not as as wait Wise, but tall. Harris is huge. 344 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: Farrell Brown is the biggest guy in the room. This 345 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: is a massive tight end room. But you're just gonna 346 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna be seeing a lot of d Joku and 347 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: Harris out there with the offense. Offensive lineman ten you 348 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: tread or Cush, Hubbard, Batonio Robinson Will. Probably you're starting five, 349 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: but now you've got five backups. Austin Corbett, Kendall lam 350 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: Drew Forbes, Justin McCrae, Wyatt Teller good news for Forbes. 351 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: We don't see him on any of the injured notes, 352 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: but it's one of those where you wonder what his 353 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: status will be for week one. So then you could 354 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: go into week one thinking you're probably only gonna have nine, 355 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: then among those he might have at least one inactive. There. 356 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: I just I I take a look at Corbor Will 357 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: probably your backup center, Lamb, your swing tackle. But now 358 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: you've I mean you've got four tackles, five or four 359 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: guards five guards right there. Yeah, I mean, it's just 360 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: I'm wondering. I can't imagine this is gonna be the 361 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: look of the offensive line by the end of the season, 362 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: little on the midpoint of the season, so it's just 363 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: gonna kind of weed itself out and hopefully you find 364 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: the right guy to put it right guard. And it 365 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: might be Eric Cush. I mean maybe he's he goes 366 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: out there and he plays well in the regular season. 367 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: He didn't need these guys. But now you have a 368 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: little bit more insurance than you had previously, all right, 369 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: and then the final positions on special teams. Two rookie kickers, Yeah, 370 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: Austin Cyber, Jamie Gillen, the Scottish hammer makes the squad, 371 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: Charlie Hewett. Hewlett is your long snapper. Two rookie kickers. Uh. 372 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: Maybe some sleepless nights coming for Mike Preefer. Uh, but 373 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: here's what the hand you've been dealt. Get them ready 374 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: and let's go for Sunday. Listen, I'm just glad that 375 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: Cyber finished the season preseason strong, because we'd be in 376 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: a situation where I don't if we're still looking for one. 377 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: And the Vikings just cut their kicker today who they 378 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: traded a fifth round pick four two weeks ago. I 379 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: mean that just shows you if you don't have an 380 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: elite kicker, you're always looking and I think that this 381 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be one of those things where Cyberd's gonna 382 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have some flexibility and you're gonna 383 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: be a rookie. But it's one of those things you're 384 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: always looking for kickers and on a on a team 385 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: that expects to be really good. Uh, you know that 386 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: you're not going to let a guy keep going out 387 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: there and missing. I mean, so Cyberd's gotta keep doing 388 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: what he did at the end of preseason. And we 389 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: mentioned Gillen. Gillan looked good punting the football. The question 390 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: is gonna be how good a holder is he gonna be? Yeah, 391 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: he's come a long way. They said, there were some 392 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: rough days there in the spring. Uh So now you 393 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: owe it, you hone it. These two are gonna be 394 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: working together a lot, work as much as they can 395 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: over the next eight days here to get ready for 396 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: the season open. So that is where we stand. That 397 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: is your fifty three man roster as of the five 398 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: o'clock hour on Saturday. 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