1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. Today I am joined by a 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: man of many, many talents. Luke McFarlane has tackled TV 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: and film, Broadway and now the unscripted world. He is 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: currently hosting and starring in Hallmark plus his home renovation 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: series Home Is Where the Heart Is, which is out 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: right now. And yes he is rolling up the sleeves, 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: and yes he is getting dirty because he is showcasing 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: his very impressive skills in woodwork to help bring some 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: magic to some incredible human beings. I love feel good 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: shows like this. You guys are in for such a 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: treat with this one. 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: Now. 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Luke has done fifteen fan favorite Hallmark movies, so it's 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: pretty cool to see him in a totally different role, 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: still bringing that same joy to many. You may know 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: and love Luke from his role in Brothers and Sisters 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: or the Apple series Platonic, which he just finished filming 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: season two of. Then there's the movie Bros. Which was 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: a big studio rom com featuring a same sex love story, 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: which was pretty groundbreaking for the time, and I would 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: argue that it still very much is. And Luke added 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: Broadway to his resume performing in the very moving play 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: The Normal Heart. And this is just naming a few 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: of his many many credits. So let's see if today 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: we can get Luke to say something that he has 27 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: never said before. Luke, how you doing, my man? 28 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: I'm good, Tommy, thank you so much for having me. 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: I am so happy to see you. A lot has 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: changed since I saw you last. 31 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: It is correct, it's been met. When I was doing 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: the Bros. 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: Press tour yep, yep, on my show Extra and you 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: were not a parent, then you're a parent now. 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct. I walked into I will say this, 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: when I walked into the theater. You were sitting down 37 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: in the theater and I walked and I turned to 38 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: Billy Eichner and said, like, who is this guy? He's 39 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: very very handsome. Oh god, Billy immediately made a joke 40 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: about that. But it's true. And you look fantastic. You 41 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: look great. 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: Thank you well likewise, my man. Likewise, I saw your 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 1: promo stills for the new show, and you're clearly staying 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: on top of your fitness game. Oh yes, you have 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: not let that slip in two years. I haven't you know. 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: I did just have a daughter. 47 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: She's going to be two years old soon, and I 48 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: still make time to sort of have a little time 49 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 2: to myself, to go to the gym. It's a big 50 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: part of what I do. And yeah, even having any kid, 51 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: it just becomes a little bit earlier in the morning. 52 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure. But you're carving out the 53 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: time for you, which is great. 54 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: That's right. 55 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: Well, we have lots of cover and obviously we're going 56 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: to get to the show. A lot of people know 57 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: you from the acting world. You know, you're rolling up 58 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: your sleeves or getting dirty in the unscripted world, and 59 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: we're going to talk all about that. But to begin, Luke, 60 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: you have such an impressive career. You've done projects that 61 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: are so wonderful and that means so much to so 62 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: many people. So in your perspective, what for you is 63 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: a career high? 64 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, you know, it's always funny to look back 65 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: at your career because you never quite know where it's 66 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: going to go. I mean, if you told me that 67 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: would become this amazing home for me, and it has. 68 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: I've done fifteen movies with them, I would be really 69 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: I'd probably ask first of all, what is Hallmark And 70 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: now it's become this amazing platform for me to do 71 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: movies and to work on movies and to be a 72 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: romantic lead in these movies. But now it's been a 73 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: place for me to go. Can I executive produce something? 74 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: And I did executive produce the show which is going 75 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: to be Well, which is live now where I get 76 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: to show another part of myself, which is my passion 77 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: for home renovation and woodworking. So career highlight. Trying to 78 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: answer your question, sorry rambling, Gosh, I got to work 79 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: on Broadway. That was huge. You never thought that that 80 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: would happen. I worked an amazing production of The Normal Heart, 81 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: which won a Tony Award almost ten years ago. That 82 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: was amazing, beautiful story. Yeah, gosh, I don't know. It's 83 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: been so varied. I worked on a sci fi series 84 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: which I loved. I worked on Brothers and Sisters for 85 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: one hundred episodes with Sally Field and Cliss of Lockhart 86 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: and Rob Lowe and the amazing Matthew. So it's been 87 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: very It's been all over the place. I don't even know. 88 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes I look back on my IMDb page and try 89 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: to remember the plot of some of the movies that 90 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: I've been in. 91 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool that you've touched kind of everything, right, 92 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you've done the Broadway, You've now done film, 93 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: you've done TV, you're doing unscripted. Is that something you 94 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: always wanted for yourself? Or you just kinda are a 95 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: yes person and took the opportunities as they came. 96 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I love TV from the very beginning. I've 97 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: always loved TV. I think it speaks to my generation. 98 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: You know, TV was where my family sat down and 99 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: watched things together, so it always had a sense of 100 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: like togetherness. TV was that for us. Movies were not 101 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: as much part of growing up. It was Mom went 102 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: to Blockbuster and came back with three videos and we 103 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: debated forever, and then she would fall asleep and no 104 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 2: one would ever watch Jade or some weird psycho sexual 105 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: movie that she always sem to come home with. So 106 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: TV is important, and I actually really love being on 107 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: TV because it also, as an an actor, creates a 108 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: space that you get to return to again and again, 109 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: a group of people that you see every single day. 110 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: Movies aren't as much like that. That's interesting. 111 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: What a perspective, And you strike me as someone who 112 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: likes to form relationships and nurture those bonds. So I imagine 113 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: you do that more in television. 114 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely. You get to know the carpenters, you get to 115 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: know the set painters, you get to know the wardrobe 116 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: people in a much more intimate way. And yes, I 117 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: do like that. I think it makes you a better 118 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: actor to just understand where people come from a little 119 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: bit more. 120 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: And your work means so much to so many for 121 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: many reasons. But I just saw you posted minutes before 122 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: the interview you're out magazine cover. Yes, and you've been 123 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: such a prominent figure for that community for many reasons. 124 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: What I kind of take from your career and from 125 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: you is you're someone who shows people that you can 126 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: go after your wildest dreams, no matter what background you 127 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: come from. And I think that's pretty cool. And like 128 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: you said, we met during Bros. And that's a movie 129 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: that means a lot to many people today. Does that 130 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: hold a special place in your heart? 131 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god? Absolutely. I mean only was it my 132 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: first opportunity to be part of a feature film put 133 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: up by his studio, which just means a different thing. 134 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: You know, a lot more money, a lot more pressure, 135 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: you know, working with people like Judd Apatau and you know, 136 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: guest stars that were you know, household names. That was 137 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: the first time for that, So that definitely holds a 138 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: special spot for me too. 139 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean clearly, I see you reminiscing, Yeah, and you're 140 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: thinking about that time, and I imagine doing something that 141 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: with Billy and working on a project like that and 142 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: being such a pioneer for that is pretty cool. 143 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I know you're gonna say you're talking about Out magazine. 144 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: It's funny actually because just you know, I posted that 145 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: and Guy Brendan just sent me a text. Guy Brendan, 146 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: who is also in Bros. Along with Billy, played Billy 147 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: Aikner's best friend in the movie, sent me a text. 148 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: He said, I saw your Out magazine. I can always 149 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: tell when you really care about a project because you 150 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: take your shirt off. 151 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: I was like, God, So what incorrect? Or I mean, 152 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: is that accurate? 153 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, there's something about skin that you know, 154 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: just you know, gets people's attention. We all know about 155 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: the scroll and we all know what makes people stop. 156 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: And I care so much about the show that I'm 157 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: executive producing homes Where the Heart Is. And yeah, maybe 158 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: I did want a couple extra eyes, and maybe I 159 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: was willing to take the shirt off to get a 160 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: little bit more attention on something I care so much about. 161 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: Listen and an oversaturate of market. You Gotta do, you 162 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Gotta do, You Gotta do, you Gotta do. Yeah, that's awesome, 163 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: And with that series, I think it's so cool for 164 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: many reasons that you're doing it, because it's so different 165 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: than what we're used to from you, right, And when 166 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: I first saw it, I thought, huh yeah. 167 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: I mean I knew you loved board work. 168 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: I saw, especially during COVID a lot of your videos 169 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: you put up doing all of that. But what for 170 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: you made you say I need to be a part 171 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: of this project, like sign me up. 172 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: So it began with an amazing woman named Jessica Sebastian 173 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: and she had always wanted to do a home renovation 174 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: show and she came to me because she knew she 175 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: wanted to do it a Hallmark and Hallmark is starting 176 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: to get into the nonscripted space and they said to her, 177 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: you got to work with one of our talent, and 178 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: we know who that's going to be. It's Luke McFarlane. 179 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: It's got this interest, so Jessica and I began talking. 180 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: We began talking about what the show want to be 181 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: and our sort of idea about wanting to create spaces 182 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: for people that reflected who they were, where they're coming from, 183 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: and then specifically for me. I said, but I want 184 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: to add something personal to every home that we renovate. 185 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: I want to build something specifically for them, because word, 186 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: working for me is something I've done for a long time. 187 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: It's been professional. Sometimes sometimes it's about paying the bills. 188 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's reminiscing about, like you know, working with my 189 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 2: dad where I was a kid, it's a big part 190 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: of what we did. We always built stuff together. So 191 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: I knew I wanted to add that because I think 192 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: when you design a space for someone, it has to 193 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: be personal. It has to be intimate. It's not just 194 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: about this is the it color, this is the right paper, 195 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: these are the things you need. It's not that, it's 196 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: who are you? And how can your space represent you. 197 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: I think we look at clothing as a way of 198 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: expressing ourselves a lot, but we don't do it I 199 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: think with as much intention as our physical space. You know, 200 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: we want our physical space to represent who we are 201 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: as well. So that's what the show is really about. 202 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: Home is where the heart is Palmark. Plus that's right out. Now, 203 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: what about this show feels different than an acting job? 204 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: Like what fulfills you in a different way doing this 205 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: versus that kind of work? 206 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, tell me. It was so hard. It 207 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: was also so hot. And look, we did not have 208 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: all the money in the world. So like I found myself, 209 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: you know, finishing up an interview with a family and 210 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: then being like, Okay, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta 211 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: build this thing. I gotta get dirty and dusty, and 212 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: you know, some some days my day would start at 213 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: six am and I was like literally on the table 214 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: saw until the sun went down. Like it was very 215 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: different that way. I expected there'd be a whole team 216 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: that would kind of help me. It was like, if 217 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: you really care about something, you have to do it. 218 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 2: So it was hard and it was hot. We filmed 219 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: it in Atlanta in the summer, so if you look 220 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: carefully at the show, you can see some sweaty shirts. 221 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: H for sure, Uh huh. 222 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: That wasn't production throwing water over you making you look 223 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: extra steaming. 224 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: One percent. I actually I did make a comment. I 225 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: think a lot of home run. Those shows, there's a 226 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: what I like to call sort of like a carpenter drag, 227 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: where like they'll go in and like maybe knock one 228 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: wall down and lift one thing. But I swear to 229 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: you I was doing it all with some help, but 230 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: I had my hands super dirty. 231 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: Really, yes, okay, all right, well you enjoy it too. 232 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: You don't want to fake it? 233 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: No, I do, and I do. And I walking into 234 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: a reveal and making sure that like the thing that 235 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: you're showing them is good is a different kind of 236 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: stress for me. It's very much reflective of myself. 237 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: And these shows for me, are always very emotional. And 238 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm an Italian from Jerseys, so I can like cry 239 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: when wind blows, but I no, no, I imagine for 240 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: you when you see the faces of these families and 241 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: whoever you're profiling, you must feel that too. Did you 242 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: catch yourself getting emotional at all? 243 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely? I think I got the most emotional in 244 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: one of the episodes it's streaming now, where it was 245 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: really important. It was a mother and daughter and the 246 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: mother was having a hard time. Oh it's making emotional now. 247 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: She was having a hard time letting go of something 248 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: that her late husband had built. So it was his 249 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: conversation of like, how can you let go of this 250 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: thing while letting your daughter make this space for herself. 251 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: And we were in a cabinet chop and we were 252 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: trying to convince this lovely mother to sort of let 253 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: go of these old cabinets so we could give her 254 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: some new cabinets. And it was very emotional. 255 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: Actually, wow, yeah, wow, that's hard to let go. I 256 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: mean home, Your home is sacred, right, It's a space. 257 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: I always say it to my husband, like when we 258 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: move or when we design a home, like I want 259 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: it to feel like our sanctuary. We can turn out 260 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: the world and come home and. 261 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: Just be safe. 262 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: And there are things that you bring with you from 263 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: loved ones who have passed or you know that you 264 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: collect along the way, and I just I think there's 265 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,359 Speaker 1: something so magical when you can help facilitate creating that 266 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: that knew something for someone else because you know how 267 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: important it is totally. 268 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: And I think it's important to remember. And this is 269 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: something I talked about a lot, but homes are also 270 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: time traveling machines. And you know, when I first bought 271 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: my home in Los Angeles, which is one hundred years old. 272 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: You literally take off the wallpaper and you see what 273 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: was there before. So you're actually going back in time 274 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: and you're going this was once somebody's idea of what 275 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: you were describing with your husband as a cozy space. 276 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: And you're like, oh God, should I be removing this? 277 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: Should I be taking this away? But the home travels 278 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: through time. We just get to inhabit it for a 279 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: brief moment. So yeah, trying to honor about all those things, 280 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: it can get very emotional. 281 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: Do you want to do more in this space? I 282 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: mean it's a whole new category for you. 283 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 2: I mean it is. I will say my real passion 284 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: is furniture building. I've built a lot of furniture, and look, 285 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: I've done everything from framing to trimwork, to hang indoors 286 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: to even painting. God bless me, I hate painting so much. 287 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: I hate painting. But furniture building is really my passion. 288 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: I get to work in my workshop, I get to 289 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: stay in one place, I get to work with sort 290 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: of beautiful special woods. So that's what I'd like to 291 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: do more. But I didn't like to sort of encourage 292 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: people and talk more about what makes great pieces of furniture. 293 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: That's so cool that you're such an entrepreneur in doing 294 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: it all. And I think that's the way of twenty 295 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: and twenty five and going forward. 296 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: I mean, the. 297 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: Idea of doing one thing and staying in one lane, 298 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: to me is very dated. And I love that you 299 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: can go do a show right like Platonic and film 300 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: season two, and go jump into the some scriptive worlds 301 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: and go work on your furniture. You know, your wo 302 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: would work and all of it well, like. 303 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: You honestly tell me, like to watch you. You know, 304 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: when I first met you, you were doing these you know, 305 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: fifteen to five minute, twenty minute interviews, and now we 306 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: get this opportunity to sit down and actually talk. And 307 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: I know that's probably a part of yourself that you've 308 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: always want to share. Yeah. If we like somebody, we 309 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: want to see them grow. Yeah, and Hallmark has done 310 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: that for me. Yeah, give me the opportunity to grow. 311 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: Trust me. 312 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: I've seen a few of those Christmas moves like many 313 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: people have. 314 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: Many people. 315 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: Actually, I was just texting with a friend here we go. 316 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm very close with Jennifer a few and she said 317 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: she watches catch me if you claws. Oh, all the time, 318 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: like year round when she's having a bad day. 319 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: Oh that was a favorite one. Yeah, amazing Italia Richie, 320 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: I love making that one. Yeah. 321 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: See you bring so much joy to people, not even 322 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: during just the holidays with your work, but year round. 323 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: And Jennifer love Cwett No less, there we go. It 324 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: was a soft name drop. You know. 325 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: That's what we do on this show. We just slide 326 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: them in sometimes. But that's awesome. I think it's really cool. 327 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm really excited for this series, and I love that 328 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: hall Hallmark is now expanding into this category because it's 329 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: so hot. People want it. My dad, he just turned 330 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: seventies and Italian from Jersey. He watches like those those 331 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: home Rhino shows on streaming all the time just because 332 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: for him he has anxiety. That's another story, but it 333 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: gives him such calm. 334 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: You know, I got to ask you, this Old House 335 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: is that what your dad watches? What does your dad watch? 336 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: Do you know any of the titles? 337 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't know any of the titles. I will get 338 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: them for it. 339 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm curious because like I grew up, this Old House 340 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, me and my dad used to watch that. 341 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's something though, because he likes sold Western, 342 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: So like when I started seeing him watching these I'm like, Okay, 343 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: I see you. 344 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: I love it. 345 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: But that's that's the power of these shows. It transcends 346 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: all demographics and ages and people just want to feel 347 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: that joy and connection and you're bringing that, which is 348 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: so damn cool. 349 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: Well, also the home renovation shows this beautiful built in 350 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: thing where you get up before and then as right right, 351 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: so that after takes you all the way to the 352 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: end of the episode. Yeah, and that's really what we 353 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: want to see. 354 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: Okay, but you're not hanging up your hat in the acting. 355 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: World, correct, No, I am not. I just finished film 356 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: in the second season of Apple's Platonic with the amazing 357 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: Rose Byrne and the incredibly funny and talk about someone 358 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: who's got his hands and everything Seth Rogan. Now he's great, 359 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: he's amazing. Yeah, he's like truly a genius. Can't wait 360 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: to see his new show. But yeah, so I just 361 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: finished doing the second season. That really excited about that. 362 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: Just finished making a little horror film with an actress 363 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: I know you interviewed Olivia Holt, and that was really 364 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: fun playing a playing a teacher who may or may 365 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: not be a zombie. 366 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is this your first kind of step into horror? 367 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: I made one horror film. I'll let people look it up. 368 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: It was yeah, it was what is it? Come on? 369 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: Come on? It's called rock paper Dead had an amazing cast. 370 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: Oh god, Michael Madson and Tatum O'Neill in that movie. 371 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: It was wild. So it's been a minute. It's been 372 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: a minute. 373 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: All right, Well we look forward to that. You know 374 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: what I announced? It was my guest. A lot of 375 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: people were writing saying they want to see you play 376 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: a superhero, specifically Captain America. 377 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 2: I'd take it. I'd take it. 378 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: You want to turned that down? 379 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: I love doing action. I don't know, I mean, yeah, sure, 380 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 2: I'll take it. Captain America sign up. Although I am Canadian. 381 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if you knew that. So maybe Captain Canuck, 382 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: which is actually an old comic book, So Marvel, if 383 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: you're listening, Captain Canuck is probably available, very inexpensive if 384 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: you want to turn that franchise into something. We're onto 385 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: something here, let's do it. We're manifesting that right now. 386 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: For trying to think what Captain Canuck's like superpower would be. 387 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 388 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: He's a Canadian. I don't want to say something offensive. 389 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to say, Joe, I'm not going 390 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: to make a joke disappear. There we go. 391 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna we're gonna plush that idea out 392 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: a little bit. 393 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 2: It's a big legal sort of you know, polit a 394 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: cool show. 395 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, you never know. Is there a role 396 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: that you auditioned for that you really wanted that you 397 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: were super bummed didn't work out? 398 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 2: God, that's that's a super fair question. You learn so 399 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: quickly to let go of things. Yeah, you just have to. 400 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: I always like make the joke with with my friends 401 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: when I'm driving and I see the billboard for the 402 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: thing that I auditioned for. I was like, oh, I guess, 403 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: I guess I didn't get that part, because you know, 404 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: you find out that they cast somebody else. But well, 405 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 2: here's something and this is this is true, and this 406 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 2: is this is not the thing that I've never told 407 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: anyone because I have something special for that later. But 408 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: I actually auditioned originally for Matthew Reese's part in Brothers 409 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: and Sisters. We both went in together. I was actually 410 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: in New York doing a play at that time. They 411 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: flew me out to do the test. Me and Matthew 412 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: went in to audition for Kevin, who became you know, 413 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: Sallyfield's son, and I auditioned for Kevin as well. Matthew 414 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: got the part I didn't. They said, we loved you, you 415 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: thought you were wonderful. We want to give you this, 416 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: this sort of door price, which became Scotty and yeah, 417 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: so low and behold. I wanted Kevin. I became Scotty 418 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: so and it worked out pretty well. It worked out 419 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: pretty well. Hundred episodes later. Yeah, that character's beloved. Yeah, 420 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: it was fun. It was a fun gig. That's funny. 421 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: You never know where it will take you, right, I 422 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: mean you walk in the room thinking it's one thing, 423 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: and then something else happens, which may very well be 424 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: even better than you imagined, which is pretty cool as 425 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: an actor. 426 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: Do you watch I. 427 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 1: Mean, there's so many there's so much content out there now, right, 428 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: series and movies and streaming and all of it. Is 429 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: there a series or a film franchise that you will 430 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: you would think would be so cool to be a 431 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: part of. 432 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 2: I am a deep Star Trek fan. 433 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: Oh really? 434 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, like really deep. It's like weird actually, like I 435 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: fall asleep to Star Trek Next Generation every night, have 436 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: been doing it for five years. I could tell you 437 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: any episode, any character. I know the titles of them. 438 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: I've watched Star Trek Voyager, I've watched you know, the 439 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 2: New one, Brave New World. But Star Trek Next Generation 440 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: is like one of the like all time favorite comfort 441 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: foods for me. 442 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: Have you ever been able to audition for anything Star 443 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: Trek related? 444 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: It's funny, I'm just remembering this now. I actually did 445 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: audition for Captain Kirk. 446 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: That must have been a pinch me moment. 447 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: Come on, I mean, yeah, but that was a long 448 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: time ago. It was also like when you look back 449 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: at these things, I was like, I didn't know what 450 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: the heck I was doing, and that became of course 451 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: Chris Pine's you know, huge breakout roll. But yeah, I 452 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: auditioned for that one. Yeah. 453 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: How did you keep your cool? 454 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: If I like you, you're such a fan, I think 455 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: at that point you just sort of walk in blindly. Yeah, 456 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: And there is there is a part of me that 457 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: wishes I could go back and go, like, you know, 458 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: do things differently. I don't know, I don't think I 459 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: realized how how big these opportunities were at the time, 460 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: and then maybe that's a survival technique thing. You just 461 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: you try to not get too worked out, so. 462 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: You seem to be someone who can handle rejection well, 463 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: because in the business there's a lot of it and 464 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: in life, I mean, yeah, but add in all the 465 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: career stuff you have to deal with. It's not your 466 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: usual nine to five where you go in and do 467 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: your job and constantly have to hear no right, And 468 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: that's just a different, a different thing. So you've always 469 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: been someone seemingly that can let that roll off your back. 470 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 2: I haven't. I don't know where that comes from. Like 471 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: I don't. I'm having a memory of like a dear 472 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 2: actor friend of mine who you know, we kind of 473 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: sort of started out together, and I remember he went 474 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: in for this audition for something and he didn't get 475 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: it and he broke down and it was so profound, 476 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: and I of course was comforting my friend, and you know, 477 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, But in the back of my head, 478 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: I was thinking, uh, oh, uh oh, this is this 479 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: is going to be tough for you because this is 480 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: a big, big part of it. And I don't know 481 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 2: some people let things roll. Some people don't. And I 482 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: don't want to put a judgment on that, because certainly 483 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 2: like it's cool to have big emotions about things, but 484 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: for me, there was a lot of rejection before. 485 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: There was a lot of yeses, and you never let 486 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: it stop you. Nope, look at you here today. Seth 487 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: Rogan's had a really smart thing about that once too. 488 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: He's like, you know, the one thing about successful actors 489 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: is they just kept doing it. And I think that's true. 490 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: That's amazing, and I think we need to hear that 491 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: more and more because people look at you and they think, 492 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: oh my god, he's probably never had to deal with that, 493 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: and now he's transitioning to this unscriptive world and he's 494 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: touching every kind of market of the industry. So it 495 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: must be so nice. 496 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: But you're like, we all go through it. Yeah, we 497 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: totally do. There is no shortage of you know, forty 498 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: five year old dudes that you know do crunches. 499 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: So forty five year old dudes who do crunches that 500 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: should be your Instagram bio. 501 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 502 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just a forty five year old dude. 503 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: It does yeah, yeah, yeah. 504 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: Do you feel do you feel that though, I mean, 505 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: you bring up age and I'm turning forty in January myself, 506 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: and it's such an interesting time in my life because 507 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: I feel like you ask yourself a lot of questions 508 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: at that point, and you're very reflective, and you know, 509 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: you go through what you go through, and I'm like, 510 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm welcoming of it. I'm not weird out or freaked 511 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: out by it, but you do start thinking things a 512 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: little differently, right, and taking inventory. 513 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think that thirties are hard like that. I 514 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: think the thirties are hard. So like, you get to 515 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: your forties, you get a new kind of confidence. I 516 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: think about yourself and you're like, okay, like Tommy, you've 517 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 2: done it. Yeah, Like you have this career, You've made 518 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 2: this thing happen. You've been the host of multiple shows now, 519 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: like so it's all worked out. And I think when 520 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: you get to your forties and you've kind of pursued 521 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: that passion and you've gotten to a place, you get 522 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: to go like, ah, all right, yeah it's gonna be okay. Yeah, 523 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: and then you can start about start thinking about a 524 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: family and that that's a whole other panic. 525 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you kind of give yourself permission to do that. Right, 526 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: It's like you don't have to wrap your entire identity 527 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: around one thing. Not that you did that or not, 528 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: but I do that, but like it's you allow yourself 529 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: space to make room for those things that maybe you've 530 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: always wanted to do. 531 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: That's right, yeah, completely, and admit to your that it's 532 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: okay or it's going to be okay. I think when 533 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: I first graduated from school, I was like, I'm never 534 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: going to make any money ever. I'm going to get 535 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: like kicked out of the country because again I'm Canadian. 536 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to get kicked out of the country and 537 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: it's all gonna be disaster and I'm going to live 538 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: in a car. But that didn't happen. 539 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it worked out pretty well. And you did 540 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: it all while being true to yourself, which I know 541 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: wasn't always easy, and you had to make some difficult 542 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: decisions along the way, and you very much wore I 543 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: think a pioneer for showing people it's okay to be 544 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: who you are. But I know that came with probably 545 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: a lot of sacrifice along the way. 546 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: I mean I came out when I was that came 547 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: out like eighteen years ago. And it was a different time, 548 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: and it was before streamers, and it was before Timothy Shalomeh. 549 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: I know, it was before there was just a different 550 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 2: relationship to what you know, a guy could and couldn't wear, 551 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 2: and whether they could paint their nails or not. So 552 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: I do I do look back at that eighteen year 553 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 2: old and go like, wow, that was that was some determination, 554 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: or that eighteen years ago with some that was a 555 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: guy with determination. 556 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: Do you wish that today, when you're doing press and 557 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: doing interviews that there was I guess less of a 558 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: focus on that part of you, like it was just 559 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: something that just was in your life. Or do you 560 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: feel like okay talking about that part of you? 561 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: I totally feel okay. But we're all looking for ways 562 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: to relate to each other. I don't know about you, 563 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: but when I meet people who are queer, I always 564 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 2: want to know, like, ohlways, your coming out story. Yeah, 565 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: it's just a story. That's an important story. So like, yeah, 566 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 2: I totally get that people want to talk about that, 567 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: and if you stick around long enough, I can tell 568 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: you lots of other stuff about myself. Yeah, you know. 569 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: So I'm never going to fault somebody for a wanting 570 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: to know about that. It's a big part of who 571 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: I am, but there's other parts of me too. 572 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: Right, I think it's important to also be able to 573 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: share those parts, yes, and show that you're a well 574 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: rounded person. 575 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 2: Totally right again, Like you're just going back to Hallmark, 576 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: Like they gave me that opportunity. Yeah, you know, they 577 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: let me be a sort of romantic lead to many 578 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 2: a lovely ladies, and then they let me be a 579 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: romantic lead to a man, and then they let me 580 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 2: produce a show where I get to talk about woodwork, 581 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: and so I'm so incredibly grateful. Yeah, as far as 582 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: like a partner that's going to lean in and keep 583 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: asking questions about who you are, that's who you want. 584 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: It's one partner that keeps going like but what else 585 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: are you? Who else are you? What else can you be? Yeah, 586 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: they've been amazing. 587 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: I think that's really cool to note about Hallmark because 588 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: I think sometimes I've heard from friends like, oh, are 589 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: they cool with the gay community or is that something 590 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: they're comfortable with? And it's like, yes, the proof is there. 591 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: You know. That was the joke that people used to 592 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: make you know, and. 593 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure they had to get to the point like 594 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: many companies, I mean, times change, and you have to 595 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: allow grace for people to realize what is right and wrong. 596 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: And you can't. You can't hold someone's feed to the 597 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: fire forever if they didn't necessarily do one thing and 598 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: now they're doing something else, because that's growth and change 599 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: and evolvement, and we all deserve that and we all 600 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: go through it. 601 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 2: That's right. You know, you got to do that for 602 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: people too. 603 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 604 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 2: Let them go through their evolvement, let them go through 605 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: their change, let them go through their learning. 606 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's so cool. It's it's it's 607 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: such an important show. I'm so psych that everybody gets 608 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: to enjoy it and and watch it. 609 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 2: How do people watch Hallmark Plus for Yeah, you go 610 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: to Hallmark Plus dot com. Huh, and you sign up 611 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 2: for a very reasonable price. Oh okay, it's cheaper than Netflix. 612 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you that much. I'll have to 613 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 2: find out how much cheaper, but it's significantly cheaper. And 614 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 2: you can also, you know, visit the Luke McFarland Criterion there. 615 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: There's all my movies are up there, so you can 616 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: go and check out. 617 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: Okay, plug in your movies I see you, I see. 618 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: It was plugging Hallmark. They've been so good to be 619 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 2: and it was a joke. My friend text me, She's like, Oh, 620 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: it's the McFarlane Criterion, where you can see you know 621 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: all my movies, from Shoe Atticts Christmas to Jennifer Love 622 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: Hewitt's favorite one catch Alas anymore coming up. I haven't 623 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: got one in the can for Hallmark. Yeah, but you 624 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: know I like to try to do on every Christmas. 625 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: Okay, very cool, very cool. So we're at that point 626 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: of the show Boy where apparently you know what's coming 627 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: and the show is called I've never said this before, 628 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: and that was born from wanting to just have these 629 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: more real moments in real conversation with artists like yourself 630 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: that you don't get to have on a carpet for 631 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: two minutes or sit down junket for six minutes. So 632 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: I like to give my guests the opportunity to share 633 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: something that's important to them that they've never really said before. 634 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: So take it away. Yeah, well, I wanted to talk 635 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: about my eagle tattoo on my back. No, I'm kidding, 636 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: I don't have any back. Well, gosh, you know, I 637 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: was thinking about it. It's really lovely to be back 638 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: here in New York's. New York City is a very 639 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: important place to me. I left London, Ontario as an 640 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: eighteen year old and came out here and I auditioned 641 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: for Juilliard, which was where I trained as an actor. 642 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: And actually, this morning I went on a run, I 643 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: went past Lincoln Center. And this is going to sound 644 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: like very boastful, but I knew I was going to 645 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: get into Juilliard. I just knew it, which is a 646 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: crazy thing to think. It's like harder to get into 647 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: Juilliard than it is to get into like Princeton and Yale. 648 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: And I guess I'm telling you that because well, it 649 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: sounds embarrassing and boastful, but it also kind of points 650 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: to that thing that you know you need at a 651 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: certain time in your life and that you can kind 652 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: of make it happen if you can get really clear 653 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: about what it is you need. Look, I was like 654 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: a closeted kid living in you know, a mid size 655 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: city in Canada, and I thought, if I get to 656 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: New York, I can be gay. So they're just going 657 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: to take care of that. If I get to New 658 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: York and get the approval that I can be an actor, 659 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: I can do that. So I was like, oh, this 660 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: is my opportunity to do that. So I guess the 661 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: thing that I'm never telling, but it is like I 662 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: just knew I was going to get in to Juilliard. 663 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: Is that a dumb thing to share? 664 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: No, it's not. I feel like I'm looking at your 665 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: face and you feel you seem so well. 666 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: It's like I'm'm boastful guys, like, rarely do I have 667 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: that much confidence about outcomes? You know, maybe that's what 668 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: is embarrassing. 669 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty cool thing. I think we 670 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: need to allow ourselves to feel like we're the boss 671 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: and can achieve what we put our mind to. 672 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: And like figuring out for ourselves what exactly it is 673 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: we want, Yeah, and not just be beat around by 674 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: like well over here and make this happen, but like 675 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 2: getting really clear about what it is we want. Like 676 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: that's almost harder. And maybe that's like what's harder as 677 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: I get older? What is it I really want? Now? 678 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 2: You know? 679 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Is that a question you keep asking yourself all the time? 680 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: You know you asked me earlier in this interview, like 681 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Next, or like what's 682 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: the dream role or something like that. I don't have 683 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: that same kind of clarity I did when I was 684 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: an eighteen year old kid that wanted to go to 685 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: the greatest acting school in the world. You know, do 686 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: you feel like, because you're so fulfilled in what you've accomplished, 687 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: that you're not putting that weight or pressure on yourself 688 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: says think about what's next? 689 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: Maybe, but maybe I'm also a little more afraid to 690 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: put myself into the scarier, the unknown or the like difficult. 691 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: So I don't know, but I can't remember a time 692 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: later in my career when I was so sure about 693 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: what I wanted next, so sure that I knew I 694 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: was going to make it happen. Yeah, that's interesting, is it? 695 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 696 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: It is? It is. 697 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: I think, especially at this point of your life. You mentioned, 698 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, forty five and new dad, and it's like, 699 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: what do I want in this chapter? 700 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 701 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: And I think it's okay to ask yourself that I 702 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: really don't subscribe to the idea that you're born and 703 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: there's one thing that you have to only do and 704 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: stick to. Kind of what I said earlier, because I 705 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: think interest change and evolve, and the world changes and evolves, 706 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: and there might be something out there that you see 707 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: and want to do that you're like, oh, I want 708 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: to do that. Did you ever imagine you'd be doing 709 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: an unscripted show at this point in your life? 710 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: Totally? I mean absolutely. I think the thing that was 711 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: the closest to sort of I know I'm going to 712 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: get into Julliard was like I know I'm going to 713 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: be a parent. That was the second always closest thing 714 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: that I knew was going to happen, except for with 715 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: you know, creating. Life is there's so many things that 716 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,479 Speaker 2: can happen, and you know, so it's also harder to 717 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: be deterministic about it. 718 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: What is the one thing that you hope your daughter learns? 719 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't early age. 720 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: The big word that comes up for me in my 721 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: favorite people in the world are curious people Like if 722 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: you're not curious, I am checked out. So curiosity is 723 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: number one. I want to foster that in her at 724 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: every step of the step of it, Like, you just 725 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: have to be curious about people, the world, buildings, would, architecture, music, 726 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: whatever you want to be in, but be curious and 727 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: be kind. Be kind. That's it. Be kind. 728 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: Can't say that enough, you know for a man that's 729 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, rapping Season two of Platonic. Just did a 730 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: Hallmark Plus series helping people with their dream homes. A 731 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: dad of two, a two year old almost you're pretty 732 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: put together. You're pretty put together. Don't know what secret 733 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: you have going on, but. 734 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: You don't simulate it. Wondering what's going on? 735 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: Crying in a pillow. 736 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: Episodes of The Star trek Luke. 737 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: This has been so nice. Remind us all how to 738 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: watch your new series, what it is all the things. 739 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 2: The show is called Home Is Where the Heart Is 740 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: and you can find it on Hallmarkplus dot com. 741 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: Okay, we can't wait for that. It's so good to 742 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: catch up with you. What a treat when I found 743 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: out we would be talking, you know, a couple of 744 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: years after our first interview. It's really cool to see 745 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: you continuing to do things that fuels your soul and 746 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: I love to see it. 747 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: Thank you and you too, and let's pick up again 748 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 2: in a couple of years. 749 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: Sounds good, one man, Thank you, all right, thank you. 750 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: I've never said this before. Is hosted by me Tommy Dederio. 751 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Piglisi at iHeartRadio 752 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: and by Me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've 753 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: Never Said this Before is part of the Elvis Duran 754 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. For more rate, review and 755 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 756 00:34:53,760 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy Dedario