Speaker 1: Doctor Fauci recently sat before Congress in a closed door hearing,
Speaker 1: So what was said during that hearing. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk to Senator ran Paul about it. He has called
Speaker 1: out doctor Fauci and his lies in his book Deception,
Speaker 1: the Great COVID cover Up. So we're going to get
Speaker 1: his take on what was reported from that hearing about
Speaker 1: the lies that doctor Fauci told then and before. And
Speaker 1: also what's the impact of everything that happened during COVID,
Speaker 1: particularly as we face a thirty four trillion dollar debt.
Speaker 1: How does that debt impact you? I'm going to ask
Speaker 1: Senator ran Paul. Also, he made an anti Nikki Haley endorsement.
Speaker 1: You're not going to want to miss this interview with
Speaker 1: the Great Senator Ram Paul, trust me, stay tuned. Senator.
Speaker 1: It's always great to have you on the show. I
Speaker 1: know you're a busy guy, so I always appreciate you
Speaker 1: making the time.
Speaker 2: Ye thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: So I've got to get you on this. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: you wrote the book on the lies we were told
Speaker 1: during COVID Deception, the Great COVID cover Up. But doctor
Speaker 1: Fauci recently sat with Congress behind closed doors for fourteen hours,
Speaker 1: and some alarming things were reported, you know, one social distancing,
Speaker 1: which we always knew was a first, but it admitted
Speaker 1: that it was it wasn't scientific, And then also admitted,
Speaker 1: even though he attacked the people who said COVID came
Speaker 1: from the lab, now he's saying that it's not a
Speaker 1: conspiracy to have thought that. So, I mean, what are
Speaker 1: your big takeaways from all of this, and what are
Speaker 1: the depths in which Fauci lied to us?
Speaker 2: You know, and virtually every major topic of the COVID pandemic,
Speaker 2: he's been on both sides of the issue. In private,
Speaker 2: he's often been honest. In public, he's almost always lied,
Speaker 2: you know. Ask early on by a coworker whether or
Speaker 2: not the mask work, he honestly responded in private that
Speaker 2: the pores in the mask were too large and that
Speaker 2: really wasn't worthwhile, and that studies that indicated it wasn't worthwhile.
Speaker 2: In public, he wears three masks, you know. In private,
Speaker 2: he acknowledged and actually in the past has acknowledged that
Speaker 2: natural immunity tends to work. If you've had the flu,
Speaker 2: you don't need a flu shot. He said in two
Speaker 2: thousand and four, famously on c SPAN, but then he
Speaker 2: became uncertain with COVID. He says, oh, we don't know
Speaker 2: if natural immunity is going to work on schools. He
Speaker 2: was for the lockdowns till he was against them, till
Speaker 2: he was four, until he was against him. So he
Speaker 2: just depended on the audience he was for. But what
Speaker 2: was remarkable about his testimony was that he couldn't recall
Speaker 2: over one hundred times. You know, he was smart enough
Speaker 2: to tell us what to do and to mandate all
Speaker 2: these things about our behavior, but a hundred times he
Speaker 2: couldn't recall when asked questions about these things or how
Speaker 2: they came about. You're right on the social distancing on
Speaker 2: standing six feet apart. I mean these ridiculous thing. I
Speaker 2: remember going to my son's university and outside in the
Speaker 2: grassy quad of the university, they had circles and you
Speaker 2: were supposed to stand in the circle six feet away
Speaker 2: from someone outside and talk to them. The plexiglass of
Speaker 2: these things were based on science, and yet every day
Speaker 2: we were berated by CNN and the left, Oh, obey
Speaker 2: the science. The right doesn't want to obey the science.
Speaker 2: The science was all concocted and basically just opinions of
Speaker 2: people on the left so they could do something they
Speaker 2: wanted to do something, But in reality, none of the
Speaker 2: things they made us do had any effect on the.
Speaker 1: Virus well, and they knew that. So it's more sinister
Speaker 1: in the fact that, you know, obviously he was pushing
Speaker 1: things that he knew were not true. So the question
Speaker 1: is why why did they do that?
Speaker 2: You know, I think there's an impulse to authoritarianism in
Speaker 2: many of these people. They go into the field to
Speaker 2: work in public health, to work in the government, and
Speaker 2: they have a not a great respect for individual liberty
Speaker 2: or civil liberty. These are the people who believe in mandates.
Speaker 2: You know, they've believed in mandates for a long time.
Speaker 2: For vaccines, they have no problem telling people. But for
Speaker 2: the first time, a large portion of the public, not
Speaker 2: just a few people, had doubts about the vaccines. It
Speaker 2: became large and widespread that people were looking into one,
Speaker 2: do you really need to take them? And then two
Speaker 2: in certain age groups, particularly young people, are the risks
Speaker 2: of the vaccine actually greater than the risks of the disease?
Speaker 2: And then people started asking, well, what is the evidence?
Speaker 2: I asked faluci in one of our committee hearings. Your
Speaker 2: government now says we should take three vaccines all the
Speaker 2: way down to the age of six months, you know, toddlers.
Speaker 2: And I said, is there any proof that the vaccines
Speaker 2: reduced transmission? No? I said, for children, is there any
Speaker 2: proof that they reduce hospitalization or death? And he says, oh,
Speaker 2: we don't have the data. Well, they do have the data.
Speaker 2: Almost no children, particularly healthy children, were going to the
Speaker 2: hospital or dying from COVID. So it's hard to get
Speaker 2: below zero. If it's already a zero effect from COVID,
Speaker 2: it's hard to go below that. In fact, when they
Speaker 2: approved the vaccine the Booster, the science committee at the
Speaker 2: CDC and the FDA initially voted only to give to
Speaker 2: those that's sixty five and older. Then Wilenski, Rochelle Wilenski,
Speaker 2: the Bidy administration, came along said oh, no, we won't
Speaker 2: apply to all kids. But she overruled the scientific committees.
Speaker 2: But they could never prove efficacy. So they said, well,
Speaker 2: if you give a shot to your toddler, to your adolescent,
Speaker 2: they'll make antibodies. That's not proof of efficacy, that's not
Speaker 2: proof of anything. That's just proof that if you give
Speaker 2: some foreign protein or have a protein created, your body
Speaker 2: will react to it. That's right, that's an immune response,
Speaker 2: but doesn't mean you need it. I mean if the response,
Speaker 2: if the answer were that you should take a vaccine
Speaker 2: as long as you get an antibody response, we could
Speaker 2: give you one hundred vaccines. I can give you a
Speaker 2: vaccine every day and you'll make an antibody response. Doesn't
Speaker 2: mean you need a vaccine every day. But yeah, it's criminal,
Speaker 2: you know, really in some ways literally criminal. But in
Speaker 2: every which way his judgment and his conclusions were wrong.
Speaker 2: We're not based in science.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I remember the CDC was looking at
Speaker 1: at an outbreak I think it was in July of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I believe, where seventy five percent of
Speaker 1: the cases were vaccinated people. Yet Biden went on to
Speaker 1: push the vaccine mandate after that, knowing that you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't stopping the spread. But you know, I wanted
Speaker 1: to get you on you know, part of what we're
Speaker 1: you know, the impact of all of that is what
Speaker 1: it's done to the economy, and including this thirty four
Speaker 1: trillion dollars of debt we're facing, you know, as Congress
Speaker 1: continues to deal with funding bills in the aftermath of
Speaker 1: all of that, How does that debt impact Americans?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the debt is sold to the Federal Reserve,
Speaker 2: and does the Federal Reserve have any assets to buy it? No,
Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve just has a printing press. So the
Speaker 2: Federal Reserve creates new money. So whenever we have a
Speaker 2: Congress spending more money than it takes in, the debt
Speaker 2: through the Treasury bills is sold to the Federal Reserve
Speaker 2: and they buy it. But they buy it by increasing
Speaker 2: the money supply, and as the increased money supply circulates
Speaker 2: out the economy, it eventually devalues. So let's say, for example,
Speaker 2: you double the amount of money in circulation, it'll be
Speaker 2: worth half as much approximately, So inflation, home prices, mortgages, interests,
Speaker 2: all these things were effect of deficit spending. And we
Speaker 2: criticize the Fed lot my father has I have. I'd
Speaker 2: like to audit them, but really, Congress is ultimately the
Speaker 2: culprit here. If Congress weren't weren't running a debt, the
Speaker 2: Fed wouldn't have to finance a debt. But basically, the
Speaker 2: deficit leads to high prices and inflation, and really both
Speaker 2: parties are responsible. I mean, you'll remember the lockdowns began
Speaker 2: in the last administration, and the six trillion dollars of
Speaker 2: debt that piled up in about a year and a
Speaker 2: half during that were started in the previous administration. Now
Speaker 2: the Biden administration has continued that, but there really is
Speaker 2: enough blame to go around for both parties in the
Speaker 2: debt and in inflation.
Speaker 1: You know, I interviewed your dad not too long ago,
Speaker 1: and I asked him, you know, how does it feel
Speaker 1: to have been right about so many things? You know?
Speaker 1: And he was kind of like, well, not good because
Speaker 1: a lot of what I was predicting was bad. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's always good to have people affirm what
Speaker 1: you were saying was correct. So you made an anti
Speaker 1: Nikki Haley endorsement, which I endorse as well. Any chance
Speaker 1: you want to make some news on the truth with
Speaker 1: Lisa Booth with an official candidate endorsement.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm I'm fully and completely not behind Nicky Haley.
Speaker 2: I'm never Nikki and that's gonna last as long as
Speaker 2: I can imagine she's in the race. But I haven't
Speaker 2: made a decision on the others I like Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: I've been a personal friend. I defended him against the impeachments.
Speaker 2: But I'm troubled some by his attacks on DeSantis over entitlements.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're a serious person and seriously considering
Speaker 2: the danger of the debt if you're not willing to
Speaker 2: look at entitlements. I don't think we should attack fellow
Speaker 2: Republicans who have been brave. This is it takes some
Speaker 2: bravery and courage to actually stand up and say the
Speaker 2: entitlement programs are a problem of the spending that comes
Speaker 2: in or the spending that goes out. Two thirds of
Speaker 2: the spending is entitlements. One third that we actually vote
Speaker 2: on is military and non military. They call it discretionary spending.
Speaker 2: That's what's part of the budget we vote on. It's
Speaker 2: about one point seven one point six trillion dollars. That's
Speaker 2: also the debt, the deficit each year. So since you
Speaker 2: what we're voting on, it's all borrowed, and it's because
Speaker 2: of the explosion of growth and entitlements, but also the
Speaker 2: explosion of growth in the discretionary spending. So I'm one
Speaker 2: who thinks that we need and that the biggest danger
Speaker 2: we face really is not foreign enemies, but it's our
Speaker 2: domestic policy and our domestic debt. And that's why I've
Speaker 2: kind of stayed out of the presidential race. But I
Speaker 2: do think Nikki Haley will get us involved in more war.
Speaker 2: I think she's more concerned with the Ukraine border than
Speaker 2: she is with the Southern border. So I'm definitely never Nikki,
Speaker 2: and I'd decided I couldn't hold myself back. I wanted
Speaker 2: to have some impact, if at all, to make sure
Speaker 2: she doesn't win New Hampshire. And so that's kind of
Speaker 2: where I am right now and probably will remain there
Speaker 2: for the next week or so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like she's a finger to the
Speaker 1: win politician. You know, what do I need to say
Speaker 1: today versus is you know, really believing in anything? What
Speaker 1: do you hope Republicans communicate? What do you think the
Speaker 1: messages should be to reach voters and to win?
Speaker 2: You know, I think right now we're doing pretty well. Actually,
Speaker 2: I mean, even with all of the indictments and everything,
Speaker 2: I think the Democrats have so overreached on this idea
Speaker 2: of keeping Trump from the ballot that they've made themselves
Speaker 2: look ridiculous. I Mean, they're all over CNN every day
Speaker 2: crying democracy, democracy, Trump will destroyed democracy. The only way
Speaker 2: we can save democracy is by, oh, not allowing people
Speaker 2: to democratically vote for their choice if they want to
Speaker 2: vote for Trump. I mean, it's insane, and I think
Speaker 2: most people think it is. And I think even the
Speaker 2: independence that sway our elections are looking at that and
Speaker 2: saying banning somebody from the ballot that's not democratic. So
Speaker 2: I think they've overreached. And all of the polls. Look,
Speaker 2: Michigan had a polldo they had Trump up eight points
Speaker 2: in Michigan. That's a state. If he wins Michigan, probably
Speaker 2: we can win again. So, you know, we'll see what
Speaker 2: happens with this. But you know, I think the Democrats
Speaker 2: have overreached. And right now Biden's quite unpopular. His policies
Speaker 2: are quite unpopular, and frankly, his frailness and inability to
Speaker 2: sort of put a sentence together or stay awake through
Speaker 2: most of the activities that he's doing is a problem
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the weekend at Bernie's campaign and President.
Speaker 1: You know, Senator Rand Paul always love having you, truly
Speaker 1: appreciate your time. You're a busy man, so We appreciate
Speaker 1: you giving our time and my audience as well.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, No problem.
Speaker 1: Thanks that was Senator rand Paul. Appreciate him for joining
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Speaker 2: Until next time,