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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome to a Ball with Eric Ohs.

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Speaker 1: I am Eric Ohs, and it is good to have

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Speaker 1: you with us. On episode number nineteen is this week,

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking with one of the lumber Kings starting pitchers,

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Speaker 1: Remy Reid. He has been pretty impressive for the lumber

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Speaker 1: Kings as if late, as so many of these lumber

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Speaker 1: Kings starters have been in the six man rotation, something

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Speaker 1: that Remy kind of appreciates. Talking about the injuries he's

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Speaker 1: had to recover from and appreciating that extra day off.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate him taking some time to talk with us.

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Speaker 1: We had caught up with him yesterday on August the fifth.

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Speaker 1: We record this before Tuesday night's game against the Bloit Snappers.

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Speaker 1: On August the sixth, heuring Clinton before the four game

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Speaker 1: single a affiliate of the Oakland Athletics, a team when

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Speaker 1: you look at their record, you think the lumber Kings.

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Speaker 1: This is a time to put some distance between them

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Speaker 1: and maybe even pick up some ground on the kank

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Speaker 1: the second half forty five and sixty six overall in

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Speaker 1: the season. That has not been the case a four

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Speaker 1: game series. The first three contests have been losses. Lumber

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Speaker 1: at home. They are eight and one against Beloit out

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Speaker 1: series eight games to six. But the lumber Kings here

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Speaker 1: at home, for whatever reason, they have really been struggling

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Speaker 1: as of late, currently in their longest home losing streak

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Speaker 1: up the season, six straight losses. It goes back to

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Speaker 1: that series sweep against the kank County Cougars, the single

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Speaker 1: a affiliate of the Arizona Diamondbacks, series that had started

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Speaker 1: back on July fourth, when the losing streak had begun.

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Speaker 1: Lumber Kings at here at home, which had been a

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Speaker 1: first half. That is starting to not be the case

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Speaker 1: here in the second half as has been tough losses.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the last one we're coming off of, which

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Speaker 1: was a long one. We didn't get out of here

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Speaker 1: until midnight yesterday, which was on August the fifth, a

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Speaker 1: Monday night game. It went twelve innings, the lumber Kings

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Speaker 1: to eleven to the Bloyd Snappers. The longest game of

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Speaker 1: the season, both in innings played twelve and time of

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Speaker 1: game four hours and forty six minutes is what it

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Speaker 1: took us the lumber Kings having issues with the walks,

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Speaker 1: they issued ten of them, in fact, in the series

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Speaker 1: have been piling up for Clinton. They have now issued

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Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty of them on the season, or

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Speaker 1: rather three hundred and sixty seven of them on the season,

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Speaker 1: twenty of which have come in this three game series,

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Speaker 1: ten of them last night. And the lumber Kings in

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Speaker 1: these losses, though they've been very tight games, they just

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Speaker 1: We have certainly sag the praises of the starting rotation

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Speaker 1: third and August the fourth, and late rallies by the

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Speaker 1: it has meant more blown saves and now it's seventeen

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Speaker 1: positives offensively, though, have been the addition of Cameron Meisner.

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Speaker 1: Now he is the thirty fifth overall pick by the

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Speaker 1: are pretty well familiar with Meisner, the Missoo product who

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Speaker 1: he is right now staying here in Clinton. No host

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Speaker 1: how tight the baseball fraternity is. It'll also be something

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Speaker 1: that small fraternity that is baseball. No matter where you go,

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Speaker 1: in seven games this season, he has for stolen bases

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Speaker 1: on August sixth, ninety nine stolen bases as a team.

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Speaker 1: would be a playoff team, But right now, in the

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Speaker 1: we'll dive into a bit deeper when we come back.

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Speaker 1: But next we'll be joined by the lumber Kings starting

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Speaker 1: pitcher in Remy Reid. We appreciate him taking the time

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Speaker 1: and he joins us. Next on a Ball with Eric Goes.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back on a Ball with Eric Ohs. We are

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Speaker 1: now joined by one of the lumber Kings starting pitchers,

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Speaker 1: Remy Reid. Thanks for taking some time to join us

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Speaker 1: on the podcast side of.

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Speaker 2: Things, No problem whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're in an interesting rotation. We sort of start

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Speaker 1: in particular in the second half, you know, six man rotation.

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Speaker 1: You've had a lot of success so far in the

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season. What kind of group is that rotation like,

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Speaker 1: because it really seems like that starting pitching mentality, that

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Speaker 3: I guess of this half, uh yeah, yeah, the starting

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Speaker 2: Well, you are a very strong rotation.

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Speaker 3: I think anybody that goes out there can throw six, seven,

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Speaker 3: didn't know a whole lot of them, like very very well.

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Speaker 2: Very very well.

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Speaker 3: And I got up here about the halfway point, and

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Speaker 1: So we'd heard from that, I think with Cameron Meisner

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Speaker 1: how does it feel like when you first come here,

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Speaker 1: because you're like Cameron, you weren't here at opening day?

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Speaker 1: Is this group pretty welcoming? Because the lumber Kings in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen seem like a very loose group, a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to play loose. I mean, so we're

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Speaker 3: loose off the we're loose on the field, and we

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Speaker 3: do that on purpose. I mean, you can't be too

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Speaker 2: Go your way.

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Speaker 3: So we try to keep it loose and a little

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Speaker 3: good things going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this comes from the coaching staff too,

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Speaker 1: because we've had Mark de Felisson. He seems like a

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Speaker 1: We've talked about the I think it was the spin

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Speaker 3: Well, what I try to accomplish out there is I

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Speaker 3: That is my third pitch. That is my work on pitch.

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Speaker 3: That is the pitch that I am trying to That

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Speaker 3: Change up is by far the best pitch in baseball.

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Speaker 3: gonna get beat, I don't want to get beat with

437
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 3: my third pitch.

438
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 2: I want to get beat with my first and second pitch.

439
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 1: Typically, Well, you're taking in the sixth rounds, so we

440
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 1: can correct our ourselves on the horrible faux pop earlier

441
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma's State University. So sorry about that sixth round

442
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: selection in twenty sixteen. What was that moment like for you?

443
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 1: We always asked the guys, because it's got to be

444
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: the most unique thing that's happened to you so far. Right.

445
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 3: Oh, it was phenomenal. I cannot thank the Mind and

446
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 3: Marlin organization enough for giving me this opportunity and being

447
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,400
Speaker 3: through everything that I've been.

448
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: It was. It was phenomenal.

449
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 3: It was one of those moments that would have been

450
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 3: great to actually see or like get to call myself.

451
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 3: But fortunately we were still playing at the time, so

452
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 3: we were actually a practice when it happened, and I

453
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,360
Speaker 3: didn't even know what happened until an hour later after

454
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 3: it happened. We were getting out of practice and the

455
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,199
Speaker 3: coaches told me in the dugout, and then we actually

456
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 3: continued to go on and play, so I still didn't

457
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 3: get to experience that like getting the phone call myself,

458
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 3: but my dad handled it, which was very very nice

459
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 3: of him, and we had talked about it before, and

460
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 3: it was a surreal moment.

461
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,719
Speaker 1: You know, that's a pretty cool group to be with

462
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: when you find out right part of the reasons they

463
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,199
Speaker 1: get the guys that you're with in college that are

464
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 1: part of that development that gets you to the pro rank.

465
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: So it's a pretty special moment to have with all

466
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: those guys. The coaching staff too, of course.

467
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 3: They were all, you know, very very happy for me,

468
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 3: and it was fortunate enough a lot of those guys

469
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 3: got drafted along in that same career that same season,

470
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,239
Speaker 3: I would like to say thirteen or something. We were

471
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 3: tired for number one in the country that year with draftees,

472
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 3: but so a lot of them. I actually see them

473
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 3: every now and then on the opposite side of the

474
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 3: field now, so that's a little different at the same time,

475
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 3: but it's fun being able to see those guys that

476
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: you played ball with for two or three years and

477
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 3: you see them on the other side. It kind of

478
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 3: helps too, because you kind of know what to throw

479
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 3: them and stuff like that, so that's good. But no,

480
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,239
Speaker 3: it was a surreal moment. Every kid's dream and it

481
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: was everybody. It was every bit of the dreams that

482
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 3: I had when I was a kid.

483
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 1: We mentioned it on the broadcast. Usually when you go

484
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: over and you see those teammates from college, about just

485
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: the small fraternity that is baseball, because you know, the

486
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: guys have either played again each other or they've you know,

487
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: been seeing each other in high school, college, been teammates

488
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 1: or whatnot. And it's really interesting to see, you know,

489
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: just you be so many miles away from home and

490
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: yet see so many familiar faces.

491
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

492
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 3: So, for instance, today Douger is starting in the big

493
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: leagues from Miami. Former lumber king, Yeah, former lumber king.

494
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 2: Yes.

495
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 3: And he actually played at Texas Tech while I was

496
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 3: at Oklahoma State. So I actually faced him against against

497
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 3: uh against each other for two years.

498
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 2: I believe.

499
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 3: It might have been only one of the years, but

500
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: two years, I believe. And now he's in the same

501
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 3: organization as me, and he's starting on the big league

502
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 3: team today.

503
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 1: It's incredible. It's It's really cool to think about too,

504
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: just when you see all these guys pretty regularly. You

505
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: mentioned going over some you know, adversity that you know

506
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: in your career. What are some of the things that

507
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 1: you've had to to maybe get through to get to

508
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: this moment in your professional career.

509
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 3: I've had a pretty rough go out of it as

510
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 3: far as injuries and stuff like that.

511
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: Right after I got drafted, I.

512
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 3: Spent about a week or week or so in the GCL,

513
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 3: and they sent me up to Batavia, and then my

514
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 3: first outing in Batavia, I hurt my shoulder. That didn't

515
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: require surgery or anything like that. However, it did require

516
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: roughly a year's worth of rehab and then being built

517
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 3: back up to be able to play. And then I

518
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: finished out that season. I was back about the halfway

519
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 3: point when Batavia started again, and then I finished out

520
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: the Batavia year and I had a half decent year

521
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: in Batavia, not great, but not bad by any means,

522
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: And then had my first full off season and then

523
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 3: came back and was actually with Deefer, and it was

524
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: with Deefer in Greensboro, and then my second or third

525
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: adding there and I blew my elbow out and had

526
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: Tommy John that year, So that knocks me out for

527
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: an entire another twelve to fourteen months.

528
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 2: And then I got back about the halfway point.

529
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: This year again, and then they sent me up to

530
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: Batavia and I got three or four starts up there

531
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 3: or five star I don't remember. Handful of starts up

532
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: there have been throwing the ball very well, and it's

533
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: you know, been well, I get to come here and

534
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 3: I'm still throwing the ball very very well. That recovery

535
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: time or rehab time, it's it's helped a lot. It's

536
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: something that allowed that I think has allowed me to

537
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 3: mentally get a lot better. The coach of the rehab

538
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: pitching coach, Chad Roads, who coincidentally is the Batavia pitching coach,

539
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: and then the new pitching coach as well, Dave. They've

540
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: helped me almost more mentally than physically. Just allowing me

541
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 3: to mentally mature has helped a lot in pitching and

542
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: witch pitches and stuff like that. That that's rehab time

543
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 3: has allowed me to get my body and most importantly

544
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: mentally better for the game.

545
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: With Tommy John is a baseball fan, usually hear about

546
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: oh so and so is out for a year, and

547
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: you know, you don't think about the hard work that

548
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: then is required to make it a one year return,

549
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, the you know, stretching out, rebuilding, strengthen in

550
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: areas that you maybe have taken for granted because you

551
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: had them the entire time. Did that teach some patients

552
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: maybe too, as you've mentioned that, the maturity that came

553
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: along with those injuries that you had to get over.

554
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, the patients, I mean, you're for with TJ, you're out.

555
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: They used to be twelve months. Now the fastest anybody's

556
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 3: coming back is pretty much fourteen, if not sixteen.

557
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: So they say that you're out for a year, but

558
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: you're not. Really you are.

559
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 3: You have surgery and then you don't throw from anywhere

560
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 3: from four and a half to six months after surgery,

561
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: so you have an additional from months six to month

562
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: fourteen or longer you're throwing. You're working out, you start

563
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 3: working out before that six months, but you're throwing from

564
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: that point. So they say the throwing program is intense.

565
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 3: It is. It is putting them gradually building up that

566
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 3: stress on the new ligament in your elbow. It is

567
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 3: a intense and it's a lot of throws it's a

568
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: lot of the build up process. It is a lot

569
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: of wear and tear on your body, and then there

570
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: goes the arm care and body maintenance that it takes

571
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: to do that. So this right now, I've been throwing

572
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: since probably September, which is a lot long, which is

573
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 3: a long time. I mean playing one hundred and forty

574
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: game season. It's a long throwing program. Anyways. It's a

575
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: long throwing program for the normal player, let alone someone

576
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 3: who's been coming in rehab for prior to that. So

577
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: I've been throwing since September and it's August now, so

578
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: that it's just a long grind and being able to

579
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: physically and mentally just stay on top of things is

580
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 3: the struggle. But it's something that with the maturity in

581
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: that year time that it's gotten better.

582
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: Any type of new appreciation, I guess for just the

583
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: health when you do have it that you know this

584
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: is pretty special and it allows you to go out

585
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: there every fifth or I guess for the lumber king

586
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: sixth day with the extended rotation.

587
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm okay with a six day, right, Yeah, I'm

588
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: okay with the six day right now?

589
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: Did they give you a vote? I don't get a vote.

590
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: If they want a five day, it will be a

591
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 3: five day, but I will take the extra day arrest.

592
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: It's just fun to play.

593
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: It's fun to be around guys day in and day

594
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: out that are just having a fun time. That is

595
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: the most because I mean, I was around baseball when

596
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 3: I was in Jupiter rehabbing, but it's not the same.

597
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: You're not like you're a part of the team, but

598
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: you're not really a part of the team. So it's

599
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: fun to be a part of the team aspect, and

600
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: that like the group of guys again, and then seeing

601
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: other guys go out there and do well and seeing

602
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: win baseball games and just seeing guys grind it out

603
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: the same way that you have to do. That's just

604
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: that's what I miss the most, that team aspect of it.

605
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: I would say, well.

606
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: We'll let you go with this because we didn't have

607
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: you here again for opening days. So we always had

608
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: the guys fill out quick stionnaires on just so we

609
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: kind of have something to talk about during our three

610
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: hour tap dance while we're up here calling a game.

611
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: So what are some of the hobbies that you have now?

612
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: You mentioned this off season, maybe not a time to

613
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: indulge in them because of that long throwing session that

614
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: you were in in recovery. But what are some things

615
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: that you do like to do when you do get

616
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: a rare chance to get away from the game.

617
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know.

618
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: I'm me and Colak were I don't know if you've

619
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 3: had him up.

620
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, we were talking about I think hunting

621
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: feral pigs or something like that.

622
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: Cole's a big fan of that. Coolak's been in rehab

623
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 3: with me for a long time. Me and him know

624
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 3: each other very very well. Were like, me and him

625
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: play a lot of cards. But this last one, when

626
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: we were in rehab together, we built a giant boat

627
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 3: out of popsicle sticks and hot glue super glue, and

628
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: then we put a RC motor with a.

629
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: Giant battery in it.

630
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: And if yeah, man, this thing was five feet tall

631
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: by about four feet long and about a foot wide.

632
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: It was a giant and it was seaworthy. No, it

633
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: was seaworthy.

634
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: We put an RC motor in it and it it

635
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: cruised around in this pond that we had. It had

636
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: little cannons on it like a like an old school

637
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: pirate shit. We painted it stained it made it waterproof,

638
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 3: and we did that and rehab for I don't know

639
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: how long we went through. I would like to say

640
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: it took about five thousand popsicle sticks.

641
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: Never mind how many calories, right?

642
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: Uh no, yeah, luckily you can buy.

643
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 3: Luckily you can buy popsicle sticks. We definitely would have

644
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: been a trophy at all that though, but you know

645
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: we did that, you know, just something to do to

646
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: work your mind, something like that. Besides that hunting, fishing

647
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: stuff like that. I got into fishing for a pretty

648
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: good while.

649
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: Cars stuff and who's got the pirate ship?

650
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: Right now?

651
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: We're just gone colic.

652
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: Actually, uh, it was actually pretty pricey to put it

653
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: was a couple hundred bucks, not that bad, but to

654
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 3: put the RC motor and stuff in it. So I

655
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: was like, you can have a colic, you put the

656
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: RC motor and stuff in it.

657
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: I'll help you. But if you can keep it if

658
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: you buy the RC stuff.

659
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: Remy Reid, thanks so much for taking some time to

660
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: talk with us here on a ball.

661
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: We really appreciate it.

662
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: No problem, and welcome back to a ball with Eric Gilles.

663
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: You just heard from the lumber Kings, one of their

664
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: starters in Remy Reid. We appreciate him taking the time,

665
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: and I thought that was pretty cool hearing about a

666
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: pirate ship being made, and We'll have to maybe get

667
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: even more details from Remy about that. It was interesting

668
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: to hear him and Tyler Koldick passing the time in

669
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: reab by building seaworthy popsicle pirate ships out in Florida,

670
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: which I imagine not too many players can say, but

671
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: that was a case for Remy Reid a high selection

672
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: for the Miami Marlins in the twenty sixteen draft, taken

673
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: in the sixth round. And again we have a grave

674
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: apology to make for confusing Oklahoma University or the University

675
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma with Oklahoma State University. That was a cardinal

676
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: sin that we are very appreciative that Reid did not

677
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: take off the headset right there and storm off, because

678
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure the thought had crossed his mind. Lumber Kings

679
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: here in the second half, as we are talking about

680
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: when we had the introduction, currently in the wildcard race,

681
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: in fact, they own that spot four games back of

682
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: the Kane County Cougars, a team that just continues to win.

683
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Where the lumber Kings in the Eastern Division right now,

684
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: they would have a one game lead, and she had

685
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: right now four games back of the Cougars. We're thirty

686
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: and thirteen at the recording of this on August the sixth.

687
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: The Single a affiliate of the Arizona Diamondbacks. They have

688
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: been a pitching team that does not really allow any

689
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: kind of runs. We saw them take on the Quad

690
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: City's riverbend. It's a team that we know to be

691
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: pretty good because they won the first half in the

692
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: Western Division and are over five hundred again in the

693
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: second half. But right now Kane County, that just seems

694
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: like they either shutting them out or allow how only

695
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: one run to a team that can put some runs

696
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: on the board. Cougar's pitching staff is the best in

697
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: the Midwest League if you go by earn run average,

698
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: but number two on that list is the Clinton lumber Kings.

699
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: They bring it into the action on the Tuesday night

700
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: game against the Bloyd Snappers a team ERA of three

701
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: point one two. It is nearly half a run shorter

702
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: than what their opponents are bringing to thease. Him lumber

703
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: Kingks pitching though, as we mentioned, and the bullpen has

704
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: had some struggles as of late, but we want to

705
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: highlight some positives. And that was Manuel Rodriguez talking with

706
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: the manager Mike Jacobs on the pregame show out in Wisconsin.

707
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: We were just kind of picking his brain on what

708
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: Manuel has done for the lumber Kings as of late.

709
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: Remember he had begun the season in the lumber Kinks

710
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: starting rotation and right now is their only left handed

711
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: bullpen option. Well, he has really thrived in that role.

712
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: And we talked to it about Mike Jacobs and he said, listen,

713
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: this is exactly what Manuel had done last season, what

714
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: I had him out in Batavia, and just look at

715
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: the types of performances that he's turned in over his

716
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: last five audians. He had come out of the bullpen

717
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: against the Fort Wayne tin Caps at home on July thirteenth,

718
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: fourings of work, no runs allowed, got the win. The

719
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: next time, he came out against Lansing, three and a

720
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: third innings of work, no runs allowed, got a no

721
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: decision face kank County, as we know, a pretty talented team.

722
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: Five innings of work that time and no decision allowed,

723
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: one run on five hits. Then got the win against

724
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: Wisconsin on August the first three and a third innings

725
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: of work, no runs allowed. Last time out against the

726
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: Bloit Snappers in a game that saw lots and lots

727
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: of offense, lots of walks, ol Rodriguez, he did not

728
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: allow really any offense and no walks. He went three

729
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: and a third innings, got a no decision, only one

730
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: hit surrendered at land to one run, did not walk

731
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: any and struck out one. He is fun to watch, folks.

732
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 1: A left hander that has a great curve ball. It's

733
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: led to strikeouts at times, but really a pitcher that

734
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: has led his defense work behind him. And that defense

735
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: it has been pretty sharp for the lumber Kings. Even

736
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: though we record this after a four eer game on

737
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: Monday night, The defense for the lumber Kings has really

738
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: just complimented the pitching staff, which has been sharp ball

739
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: season long. It's why they are second in the Midwest

740
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: League when it comes to the earned run average. On

741
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: the offensive side of things, the lumber Kings are being

742
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: led primarily by two guys, and that is Peyton Burdick,

743
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: who had another big game on Monday. Had a three

744
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: run double into straightaway center field. It came with the

745
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: bases loaded. Also, it scored a run later on in

746
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: the twelfth, which turned out to be the final run

747
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: of that game. Verdick right now has had thirty four

748
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: runs driven in. He's in just forty games for the

749
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: lumber Kings. Incredibly productive for Peyton Verdick to begin his

750
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: season with the lumber Kings. The third round selection by

751
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: the Miami Marlins and this year's draft. We had him

752
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: on the podcast I think it was two episodes ago.

753
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 1: Erdick at the time of this recording batting two ninety

754
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: two four home runs thirty four RBIs a selugging percentage

755
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: of four to eighty one because he's got not just

756
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: the four homers, he's got thirteen doubles and two triples

757
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: as well. It all goes with the non base percentage

758
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: of three eighty six and then hitting before him typically

759
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: as Ben Cameron Meisner now, he touched on him already

760
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: in the first part of the podcast. The Missoo product,

761
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: who is selected thirty fifth overall, very tall figure and

762
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: I think as Mike Jacobs had accurately described on the

763
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: pregame show and we talked with them out in Wisconsin,

764
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: he's a big guy. I see why the Marlins took

765
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: him that high. And that was right after Kim had

766
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: a home run for the second straight game for the

767
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: lumber Kings and it ended up being the deciding factor

768
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: and a win over the Wisconsin tim Bradlers. So expert

769
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: analysis from Mike Jacobs as we tip our cap to

770
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: Mike on that very accurate description of Cameron Meisner against

771
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: six foot four, two hundred and nineteen pounds from Poplar Bluff, Missouri.

772
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Also on the offensive side of things has been Christopher Torres. Now,

773
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: the hitting streak may be over, but Chris continues to

774
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: get on base and when it happens, it tends to

775
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: lead to stolen bases. He is now the leader for

776
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: the lumber Kings. On this team when it comes to

777
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: stolen bases, he has got twenty of them. With the

778
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: promotion of Connor Scott up to the High Hey Jupiter Hammerheads,

779
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: Christopher Torre is now the leader. He's only been constealing

780
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: though this season three times, He's twenty of three. It's

781
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: very aggressive too when you see him on the base pass,

782
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: not when it comes to stolen bases, but just going

783
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: first to third on day. Since he's been the consummate

784
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: leadoff man for the lumber Kings, really has been the

785
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: spark plug atop the order and when the lumber Kings

786
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: offense goes Lately it's been because of Chris Torres starting

787
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: rallies and then leading to the big bats of Cameron

788
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: Meisner and Peyton Burdick. One lumber King that has been

789
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: struggling as if late has been Will Banfield. He had

790
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: a stretch where he had gone oh for fifteen, come

791
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: to an end out in Wisconsin with one of the

792
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: longest singles on this season. It landed on the warning

793
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: track in left field, so about three hundred and twenty

794
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: five feet i'd say for Banfield, just trying to remember

795
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: the dimensions out at Neuroscience Group Field, the home of

796
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: the Wisconsin tim Bratlers as single a affiliate of the

797
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers. And since then though, Will has just not

798
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: had a whole lot going on in the plate. Now

799
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: he's still in the middle of this lumber King's order

800
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: as a cleanup bitter. He had gone oh for six

801
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: in the marathon game against the Beloit Snappers and has

802
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: now seen the average sort of plummet for Will as

803
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: of late been around the two twenty mark for a

804
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: good chunk of this season, and he's now batting one

805
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: ninety three as a result of the skid at the plate,

806
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: still with lots of power, nine home runs and forty

807
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: eight RBIs on this season well. As we mentioned though,

808
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: the only remaining a teenager that is on the lumber

809
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: Kings roster just nineteen years of age. It is game

810
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: at number one hundred and thirteen that we record this before,

811
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: so it also could be an instance of seeing that

812
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: long season, especially for a catcher like Will Banfield, sort

813
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: of take its toll on Will Banfield, who's in his

814
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: first full season of professional baseball but still in the

815
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: middle of the order for the lumber Kings. Also, the

816
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: likes of Evan Edwards has been impressive too. In addition

817
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: that kind of feeds off the success of Bubble Hollands,

818
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: Thomas Jones and now Davis Bradshaie is starting to heat

819
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: up a little bit for the lumber Kings as well.

820
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: And we also wanted to give a shout out too

821
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: to Zach Scott who's seen his average sort of climb

822
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: up a bit after he was down at the one

823
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: to fifty level. He's gained thirty points in his average

824
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: as of late, has a little bit of power and

825
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: we joked with Zach about that on the pregame show

826
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: when we were talking with him in Wisconsin. Played such

827
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: a great second base, which lumber Kings right now they're

828
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: platooning between Zach Scott and Samuel Castro, and he had

829
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: some power and so we were asking him, you know,

830
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: what's the power like because we had him last year.

831
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: He's the only returner from the lumber Kinks from the

832
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: season ago because of the affiliation change. And we said, well,

833
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: you know you've had power this year, two home runs.

834
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: What's the deal. He said, well, I had some power

835
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: in college, and I guess we've been hoping that it'd

836
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: show up and maybe it finally is. And then we

837
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: touched on the defense and we said, he've played a

838
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: great second base. Is there such thing as being hot defensively?

839
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: And that really threw Zach for a loop. He said,

840
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: I've never quite heard it defenders described as being hot.

841
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: But I'm not hot at the plate, so I'll take it.

842
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: And Zack Scott, he was a big part of the

843
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: lumber Kings come from behind effort on Monday. Again it

844
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: fell short, but he had the RBI single in the

845
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: eleventh inning that started a three run rally that the

846
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: lumber Kings would tie the game with and then fall

847
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: eleven to nine. So that is the offensive recap for

848
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: the Clinton lumber Kings as they get set for game

849
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: number one hundred and thirty team of their season and

850
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: the final game of their first homestand in the month

851
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: of August. Not a whole lot of baseball left for

852
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: the lumber Kings this season, so hopefully we are going

853
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: to be seeing you shortly out at the ballpark as

854
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: we will shamelessly plug the broadcast side of things, we

855
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: of course want to see everybody out this season, and

856
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe we'll see you in the postseason as well.

857
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: Lumber Kings still have some work to do though, and

858
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: getting back onto the winning side of things.

859
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: Of course.

860
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: You can listen to all lumber Kings games on one

861
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: hundred point three FM WCCI for those of you that

862
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: are in the broadcast range. For those of you outside

863
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: of the broadcast range, you can listen to all lumber

864
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: Kings games online via the tune in radio app at

865
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: Lumberkings dot com. Want to give a special thanks to

866
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: Remy Reid for taking some time to talk with us

867
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: on the podcast this week. We certainly do appreciate it.

868
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: With the way things are going, the lumber Kings have

869
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: so many options to talk next week. Who knows, it

870
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Speaker 1: could be a cameraon Weisener, it could be Evan Edwards.

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Speaker 1: We've got lots and lots of options. Davis Bradshaw too.

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Speaker 1: You'll just have to tune in to find out for

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Speaker 1: episode number twenty when we join you next week. Thanks

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Speaker 1: everyone for joining us on episode nineteen. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you next week.