1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: It's continuing coverage of twenty twenty six NFL Combine by 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: from Indianapolis. I'm the Steelers Audio Network presented by First 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: National Bank. Can your bank do that? Welcome to FNB. 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: Let's get started. Member FDIC Iron Workers Local Union number three. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: We don't go to the office, We build it. Schneider 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Downs discovered the value of big thinking with a personal 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: focus at Schneiderdowns dot com, your neighborhood Ford store. The 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Ford F one fifty is the official truck of the 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers and by us deal mine melted, made in 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: the USA. 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Indianapolis, NFL Combine. Smiling Wes Euler, myself, 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: Rob King, what's up? 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: Kinger? 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 4: How are you? 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 3: My friend? I tell you what a little Americano has 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: has brought me back to life. Here, got some lunch. 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: I never sleep well in hotel. 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm the same way. I'm the same way. 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: It's it's weird because I had a pocket where after 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: my to I have two young daughters. I had a 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: pocket of time where after they were born. I slept 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: really well in hotel rooms because it was like a 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: stretch of year. We had our girls eighteen months apart 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: stretch of years there where sleep is at a premium, 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: but it's it's regressed for me. I once again, like 26 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: I wake up every couple hours. You never really get 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: that deep sleep. 28 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: Same way. 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: But I'm I'm I'm alive and ready. Now the sunshine 30 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: and now I got outside for a few minutes. They 31 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: got that, they got that virus. 32 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 4: Oh good for. 33 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: You, vitamin D from the sunshine. I'm ready to roll. 34 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 4: If you told me it was snowing outside, raining outside. 35 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: So I have no idea, right, It's just you don't 36 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: you know, you don't actually have to It's like being 37 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: in a casino in Las Vegas. You don't actually right, 38 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: you don't actually have to leave. You get you go outside. 39 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: I don't you know, the world could have ended. It 40 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: could have been you know, what was that clover Leaf 41 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: movies or whatever, the clover Da movie, clover Field whatever 42 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: they were. Yeah, uh you walk, you step outside, You're like, whoa, 43 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: it's a different world out here. 44 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: So uh yeah, I could use some of that. 45 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: And by the way, so last night, got back to 46 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: the hotel nine thirty, had to do a couple of things. 47 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: It took me a little longer than I wanted. 48 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: And then I don't know why I do this, because 49 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't do it at home. I have a TV 50 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: in my room. It never goes on unless I'm trying 51 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: to quickly shower during you know, halftime of a game. 52 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: And I'll put it on right so I don't miss anything. 53 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: You know, I can hear it if I'm still in 54 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: the in the you know, brushing my teeth or whatever. 55 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: That's literally it. I never watch. It's funny you but 56 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: I'm in a hotel room, man, here I am. 57 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: I'm watching I'm watching the end of Godfather too, at 58 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: the beginning of The Godfather last night, and speaking of 59 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: which just Dan would have been proud of me. So 60 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: I'm watching these and and you know what it is, 61 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: and I'm so used to now just streaming movies. Right, 62 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: you stream a movie and you watch a movie, you 63 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 2: forget that it's like three minutes of The Godfather followed 64 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: by five minutes of commercials, which means you're aimlessly like doom, 65 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: scrolling around the TV click click, click, click click, but 66 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: you know, flip or flop blah blah blah blop. Then 67 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: you get back to the Godfather. You're like, alright, I'll 68 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: watch one more. Then I'm like, it's like eleven thirty. 69 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you doing? 70 00:02:59,480 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 4: Man? 71 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: I could got a good nights and then I flipped 72 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: and flopped in my bed. All right, So that's you 73 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: know what that is. That's poor course management by me. 74 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: It is I had the opportunity. I was right there 75 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 2: in the first TA could have gone right to bed. 76 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: Well, luckily for you, you still got to You still got 77 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: a couple more swings left. You got the opportunity, find 78 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: the fair way, get back on the green here. You know, 79 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: we'll take a bogie. A bogie works. Does it have 80 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: to be a par doesn't have to be a birdie. 81 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: A bogie will get us through. 82 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: So we're here and we're getting ready for the draft, 83 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: and you know, we we've talked about this a lot. 84 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: Wes that that getting ready for the draft is. It's important. 85 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: It's exciting. It's exciting to see all these players. It's 86 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: exciting to dream about who the team might have and 87 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: who they might draft, and who might be part of 88 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: this who might be the next great Pittsburgh's theeether. All that, though, 89 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: has to be weighed against what you have on the 90 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: roster and what you might do in free agency prior 91 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: to the draft beginning, But of course the draft could 92 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: influence what you do in free agency. So kind of 93 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: the wave out, the wave goes in, right, so you 94 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: know you look at Okay, so, uh, receiver, safety, inside linebacker. 95 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: We think we can find guys there. So now maybe 96 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: we think about shaping. 97 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: Our roster differently, which affects what we do in free agency, 98 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 4: which is has been affected. 99 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: By what we think of the draft. 100 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: Right right, So there's the undertow. So are you ready 101 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: to examine the Steelers roster? 102 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: Always? 103 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: Okay, you're ready here? 104 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 3: We like what type of examination are we talking? You're like, 105 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: a is this like the physical I used to have 106 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: to take before taking high school sports? 107 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: No? 108 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: Or is this like we're cutting open a body here 109 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: and doing some surgery. 110 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: We are simply going to go position by position. 111 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: So whatever medical you know, analogy you want to use 112 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: works for me, or similar or metaphor so according to 113 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: spot Rack, uh, the Steelers. And again I don't know 114 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: if this is reflective of the rise in the salary 115 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: cap that's coming, but the Steelers are projected to have 116 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: forty five million dollars. 117 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: In cap space. Okay, top ten in the league now. 118 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: And by the way, with the we should we should 119 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: also point this out that with uh, this was the 120 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: NFL dot Com who had somebody come in and say okay, 121 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: with cap money and with draft picks, and the Steelers 122 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: have thirteen of them. Who's in the best position going 123 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: into the offseason? The Steelers are four and again a reminder, 124 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: Stevens won their division last. 125 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: Year, and all the teams ahead of them are like 126 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: the Raiders, right, the Titans, Jets. 127 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: Right, the Titans really really really interest me. 128 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: There It seems like every year there's a team that 129 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: goes from worst to first, from lasting their division to 130 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 3: winning their division. 131 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: Everybody to everybody giants that. 132 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: Year, she's too good. That division is so good? 133 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: There was uh there was a list of eight the 134 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: eight teams with uh new head coaches and who had 135 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: the arrow pointing up? Or maybe it was a list 136 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: of teams that didn't make the playoffs? Who is who 137 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: is the Who's going to be this year's Jacksonville or 138 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: this year's Chicago Bears or this year's New England Patriots. 139 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: Who's going to be that team? 140 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: And you know, Max and I went back and forth 141 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: about this, and Max pointed out the instability that the 142 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: Titans have had. Now the Titans think they've fixed that instability, right, 143 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: They've got Robert Salad, they've got a new general manager, they. 144 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 3: Ban Dable offensive Cordat. 145 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: They believe they've fixed what has ailed them in the past. 146 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: If they have, they are to me, without question, the 147 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: most intriguing team because they have some pieces in place, 148 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: important pieces in place. They've got a boatload of cap space, 149 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: like one hundred million, and then you got the fourth 150 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: pick in the draft. Yes, they do that to me, 151 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: And if cam Ward's the guys, of course that's that's 152 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: the caveat. 153 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: But what's really nice about that too is they've already 154 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: got some nice pieces in the trenches on both. 155 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 4: That's what I say. That's exactly what I meant. 156 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: So I'm a cam Moore believer. Now again, how great 157 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 3: he can be and all that, We're gonna have to 158 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: wait and see, obviously, but I think he can be 159 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: a legit franchise, you know, top ten type quarterback in 160 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: the NFL top ten, top twelve where you kind of 161 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: draw that you know that that line, maybe not a 162 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: true Tier one elite guy, but but certainly in in 163 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: that next group. They've got some real nice pieces, young 164 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: pieces in the trenches, and they have got a ton 165 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: of a ton of capital and and and and draft 166 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: draft capital, draft picks, as you were saying earlier, don't 167 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: call it draft capitol and salary space. And they're in division. Yes, 168 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: Houston's good and doesn't seem like they're going anywhere. The 169 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars are good and don't seem like they're going anywhere. 170 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: The Colts were eight and two and arguably the best 171 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: team in football until the injuries started piling up for them. 172 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: But that division feels like it's always so up and 173 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: down all the time. 174 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, I think it's I think, you know, 175 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: and it was. It was if you look back at 176 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: the Bears, and you look, we talked about this. There's 177 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: no looking back. I mean, you know, I I was 178 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: talking to somebody from Jacksonville last night and I said, look, 179 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: I thought seven eight wins, right, We saw him in 180 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: we saw him in preseason. They didn't look great, you 181 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: know there there ones were not really even doing much 182 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: against this. The other's twos and threes. That okay, So 183 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: they've made some improvements. They're probably a seven or eight 184 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: win team. Of course, not only were they not a 185 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: seven or eight win team, but they were demolishing teams. 186 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: Towards the end of the year, they looked fantastic. Like 187 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: you could nitpick and say New England didn't have a 188 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: strong schedule, you know, outside of the Bills, what do 189 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: you have in that division? I do think the I 190 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: you know, and we'll see how good the AFC South 191 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: is because I think one of the things holding the 192 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: Bears back last year perception wise, was the fact that 193 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: division was so highly thought of. Well, Detroit took a 194 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: step backward, you know, Minnesota took a huge step backward, 195 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: and there you were with Chicago. There was no question 196 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: Chicago was going to be better. Look what they'd done. 197 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: They had signed DeAndre Swift a couple of years before. 198 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: They had, you know, done a great job of compiling 199 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: some talented wide receivers. They had two good tackles, They had, 200 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: you know, the number one quarterback in the draft. 201 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: So what did he go one or two? I forgot 202 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: who went one? Year? 203 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: Bryce Young, Ben Young one? When Caleb Williams went did 204 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: he go one? I'm sure yes, one? One, Jane Daniels two. 205 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: That was one, two, three, quarterback. We could see that 206 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: again this time next year. I think, So what did 207 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: they do? They went out and got two guards in 208 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: the center, perfect veteran guys. That's how they spent their 209 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: money in free agency, and then they had a defense. 210 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see how they do. I don't 211 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: know if that defense was out over as skis. 212 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: A little bit. 213 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 2: A lot of turnovers, created a lot of interceptions. I'm 214 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: always wary of teams that kind of live and die 215 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: by that. But they did it again against the Steelers. 216 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: We saw it. We saw it first in. They saw 217 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: it against New England too. They just weren't able to, 218 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: you know, to get it done, to get over the line. 219 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 3: Another team in that conversation, Kinger, the New Orleans Saints, 220 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: and especially because you want to talk about I mean 221 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 3: the Panther won that that division at eight to nine 222 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: last year, Uh, Tampa Bay was eight and nine, Atlanta 223 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: was eight and nine. That division doesn't really have a 224 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: basement dweller three win team, but they don't have a 225 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: Houston Texans or a Jacksonville Jaguars either. I think the Saints, 226 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 3: Tyler shuck down the I mean, they won like five 227 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: of their last six games, the offense really turned a corner. 228 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: I think they've got the right coach. I think the quarterback. 229 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 3: You're definitely gonna give Tyler Shuck this full sophomore season 230 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: to prove that those you know, last five or six 231 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: games weren't a fluke. That division's always wide open. They've 232 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: got some cap space and some some valuable draft picks 233 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: to work with. I think New Orleans might be onto something. 234 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: Got some veterans on that defense they need to replace. 235 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: I think that to me, that question and same with 236 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: the Tennessee question, same with all of these questions. And 237 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: that's why you can't discount what Ben Johnson did. Now 238 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: natural progression for Caleb Williams or you know, Ben Johnson 239 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 2: let everybody know that he seesed Caleb Williams and and 240 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: uh and made him a different kind of player, right, 241 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: uh and tapped into his strengths and so that was 242 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 2: widely lauded. And and uh now that naturally had it happened. 243 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 4: In a year two progression, I have no idea, but 244 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: you have to get Ben Johnson credit because he got 245 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 4: it out of Caleb Williams for sure. 246 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: You know, and you know Liam con did the same thing. 247 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: With Trevor Williams uh Trevor Lawrence, who had been, you know, 248 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: bouncing around up and down with his productivity. The question 249 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: really comes to, is the quarterback good enough? Is Tyler 250 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 2: Shuck good enough? Is cam Ward good enough? If they are, 251 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: then yes, both those teams could ascend. If they're not, 252 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: they're gonna They're always gonna be limited by by the 253 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: the capabilities. 254 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: Of their quarterback. Absolutely, who can take the sophomore step 255 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: right and avoid the sophomore slump. 256 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: I'm not as sanguine about the hopes of the New 257 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: Orleans Saints I am. I'm more on the Tennessee Titans. 258 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: By the way, nobody had the Titans as the as 259 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: the number one team there. They'd be my even more 260 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: than the even more than the Giants, because I still 261 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: want to see Jackson Dart. 262 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: You know, Jackson Dart look good. Can I be honest 263 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 3: with you, I don't understand all the respect in the 264 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: world for Harbaugh. I don't that that's a very popular pick. 265 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: In the worst of first conversation, it is pretty much 266 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: the guy the pick, and I just don't get it. 267 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: They unless Jackson Dart does something substantial, they're gonna have 268 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: the worst of the four quarterbacks in the division. I'm 269 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 3: not a huge Hurts guy. I know that the verdict 270 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: is still far from out on Daniels, but those three 271 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 3: are better than than Jackson Dart unless unless he takes 272 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: a big sophomore step forward. 273 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: If he takes a step forward, and he's the guy, 274 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: and I think a lot of that projection is that 275 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: he's going to be the guy, I'm not so sure. 276 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sold that he is the guy, and so 277 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: I think that if he's not the guy, that there 278 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: there's limitations to what you can be. 279 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: I just think I don't think the Eagles are going 280 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 3: to be the absolute beast that they were two years ago, 281 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: but I think they have a pretty high floor. Even 282 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: with what seems like some coaching and some personnel volatility, 283 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: the roster is just still so insanely talented. I think 284 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: if they just get that defense to average, they've got 285 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: so many weapons. I mean, they were able to play 286 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: about five hundred football last year, making a million trades 287 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: on the fly and trying to scrap together a defense. 288 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: Their defense can just be good. I think they could 289 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 3: easily win ten games, and you know, being a playoff 290 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: conversation and then and then the Commanders are a huge 291 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: X factor because two years ago they were final four team. 292 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: Last year they take a big step back. Daniels gets hurt. 293 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 3: Can can they get back to that point? I think 294 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: all four of those teams could be good, could be 295 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: in the eight to you know, eleven or twelve win range. 296 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: I just I think that's a lot of if And hey, 297 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: there's same lot plenty for the Titans too. But that's 298 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: why I like to say so much in this conversation, 299 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: because their division is there's nobody daunting in there, really. 300 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: And then who would be the regression candidates? You know, 301 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 2: who would be this year's you know, Minnesota, this year's 302 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 2: Way State Commanders, this year's Kansas City. 303 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 4: Who are those teams going to be? But you know, 304 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 4: we we've spent a. 305 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: Little time talking about worse to first. We want to 306 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: spend some time talking about first to first. I like that, 307 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: which is this Pittsburgh Steelers. Can they go from first 308 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: to first? That's not always easy either. 309 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 4: And we're going to talk about that as we break 310 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 4: down the Steerers roster. 311 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: When we continue from the combine in Indianapolis, I'm Steelers 312 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: Nation Radio, part of the Steelers Audio Network. 313 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: This is live cover each of that twenty twenty six 314 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: NFL Combine on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the 315 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: Steelers Audio Network. 316 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: And welcome back to the combine. 317 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard that last spot Daniel 318 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: Jeremiah Greg Rosenthal talking, but Greg Rosenthal is going to 319 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: factor into this discussion because we are going to use 320 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: his top one hundred and one free agents, kind of 321 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: like the Dalmatians, only they're free agents. 322 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: Can I just say real quick you were talking about 323 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: flipping thir TV channels and watching The Godfather. I've been 324 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: doing a lot of like watching old Disney movies and 325 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: kids movies with my girls. You go and you watch 326 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: some of these, like one hundred and one Dalmatians from 327 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: nineteen sixty one, Cinderella from the fifties. How do these 328 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: animations look a million times better than this AI swap 329 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: that is all over social media now seventy years later? 330 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: How did it look better back then than it does now? Well, 331 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: because people really cared about art back then. 332 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's that's humanity over technology. 333 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: One hundred and one Dalmation nineteen sixty one. It looks 334 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: better than anything AI produces. 335 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty slogan in life, and it becomes more so 336 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: every year. Humanity over technology. 337 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: Bang. 338 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying this in front of these others production. Let's 339 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 4: crew here. 340 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: Let's keep their laptops and all their all their fancy 341 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: equipment ready to keep like. 342 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: Electricity and you know, running humanity over technology. Nate, Yeah, Nate, 343 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: Humanity over technology. Okay, these guys are getting a snicker. 344 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: These guys are feeding into the AI machine over here. 345 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: So are you ready? 346 00:15:59,560 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: I'm ready? 347 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: Forty five million dollars in cap space. Here's where we stand. 348 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: Here's here are the rules of the game. Okay, we 349 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: are not putting anybody as I go down this list. 350 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: We're not starting with anybody who is could be cut 351 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: or who is right now presently a Steelers free agent. 352 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: Now we could bring those guys back as we talk 353 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: about this roster, but I'm just telling you where the 354 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: Steelers stand right now, without any of those moves being made. 355 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: Where they stand is forty five million dollars in cap space. 356 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: According to spot rack, seventeen players under contract on offense, 357 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: twenty players under contract on defense, two special. 358 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: Teams, forty nine under contract. No, that would be uh 359 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: thirty nine. Sorry, thirty nine. 360 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so fourteen guys needed thirteen draft choices. But there's 361 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: it's there's gonna be more than that, right, So quarterback 362 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: Will Howard three more years at one million dollars a 363 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: little over one million dollars, Mason Rudolph one year remaining 364 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: at four point six million dollars. 365 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: Howard is twenty, Rudolph is thirty one. 366 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: I think that we all know that Rudolph has been 367 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: a valuable backup, considered a really really good teammate, the 368 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 2: kind of guy you'd like to have around and if 369 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: you're trying to win a division. We saw this a 370 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 2: few years ago when he came in and won three 371 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: games in a row. For this year, this got him 372 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: into the playoffs. Last year in Chicago, played I think 373 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: well enough for the team to win. They didn't wind 374 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: up winning the game, but you want, you know, he 375 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: had to fill in for Aaron Rodgers. You want somebody 376 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: in that position at the least who you feel like 377 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: could come in I think for four or five games 378 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: if needed, and go three and two. 379 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 4: That sort of thing. I think it's a valuable component 380 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: of a team trying to get into the playoffs. 381 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: I completely concur I also think in you want to 382 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: have a guy, there's been a lot of talk of 383 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: bring Aaron Rodgers back, draft another quarterback on day three 384 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: like you did last year. Kind of have Aaron Rodgers 385 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: two young guys, let them absorb and you know, mentor 386 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: from him and all that stuff, and kind of cast 387 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 3: Mason Rudolf aside. But I don't get that because I 388 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: think Aaron Rodgers he wants a guy like Mason Rudolph. 389 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: With how many times when they would show Aaron on 390 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: the bench, he'd have Tom Marth sitting on one side 391 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 3: and Mason Rudolph sitting on the other and they're looking 392 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: at the iPad and they're talking about this and that. 393 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: Ben did that with Charliet. That's what Ben loved, having 394 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: guys like Charlie Batrim Byron Leftwich veteran eyes that he 395 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: could trust. What did you see from the safety and 396 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: the coverage there? What were they trying to do with 397 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: the with the you know, the Blitz simulation, all those 398 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 3: different things. I think there's value of having Mason Rudolph 399 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 3: for any type of I don't care if it's Aaron Rodgers, 400 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: any type of established franchise quarterback just another extra set 401 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: of eyes on the sideline that you know or experience 402 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: that you know you can trust. I think that's a 403 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: big part of keeping Mason around two. 404 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: I do as well, And I think when you know, 405 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: we'll see where the ceiling is. With Will Howard, we 406 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 2: don't know right now. 407 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: We have no idea. He's a six round pick. 408 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: I think on paper, you know when they do these, 409 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: uh you know, these simulators of how much draft you know, 410 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: this is the the draft capital thing. It's worth X 411 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: amount of money or selections or value or whatever. You know, 412 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: when you take a quarterback in the sixth round, you're 413 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: really hoping that he can be Mason Rudolph. You know, 414 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: that's that would be a good career outcome for a 415 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: six round quarterback. We'll see if there's more there, because 416 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: there has been. At times, it feels like the most 417 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: likely scenario is Aaron Rodgers comes back for another season. 418 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 2: That's what it feels like as we sit here right now. 419 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: If that happens, I think the only I think free 420 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: agency is out the window. You don't sign anybody in 421 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: free agency unless it's a fourth camp arm uh, you know, 422 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: Skyla Thompson, somebody like that. 423 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: He can hopefully stash away. 424 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: In the on the practice squad, but not a true 425 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: contender for a roster spot unless there's an injury or something. 426 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: So you have to understand that that that would be possible. 427 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: There The only way to me under that scenario of 428 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is the guy who's back that you would 429 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: draft a quarterback is if you felt, man there is 430 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: some potential upside for a well above average quarterback, a 431 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: top twelve whatever whatever, however you would categorize at a 432 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 2: guy that can not manage a team to a super Bowl, 433 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: but can help us win a super Bowl, that line 434 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: of demarcation wherever that stands in the NFL. If you 435 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: see a guy who you think has those capabilities and 436 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: you're in the third or fourth round, then I think 437 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: that's the only scenario in which you take a quarterback 438 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: in this draft if you sign Aaron. 439 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 3: Rodgers, I think so, And there could be a lot 440 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: of those quarterbacks in that situation. Then again, it also 441 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: you also would maybe get to a point of how 442 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: you can only develop so many quarterbacks right once it's 443 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: exactly right, it is that almost too many mouths to feed. 444 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm leaning towards it's the same quarterback room 445 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: that it was last year. I think that's possible. And 446 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: whether it's a Skylar Thompson or a seventh round draft 447 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: pick Camp Arm that's not foregone conclusion, certainly, but I 448 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 3: think very clearly the favorite of the clubhouse. 449 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: So and I think we have to explore one more 450 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: avenue at the quarterback position, and that is if Aaron Rodgers, 451 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: you know, goes on the Oascu retreat or whatever that is, 452 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: you know, I goes back Ayahuasca comes back, or for 453 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: whatever reason just says, you know what, man, No. 454 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: My body's still banged up. I've been out out of 455 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: this season for a few months. 456 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: He's a free agent. You know, maybe some other maybe 457 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: some other situation sounds more attracted. Who knows, if for 458 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: whatever reason, he decides not to come back. I think 459 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: there are only two potential free agents you could possibly consider, 460 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: if they even Malik Willis will I think become a 461 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: free agent. Daniel Jones might become a free agent coming 462 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: off an injury. I can't see anybody else other than 463 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: that in this class of quarterbacks that you'd feel good about. 464 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: And now suddenly you have to start thinking if Aaron 465 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: Rodgers doesn't come back, what are we you in in 466 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: free agency? And does that now strengthen our need to 467 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: draft a quarterback as early as possible or whatever? And 468 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: a situation you don't want to be in, by the way, 469 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: would either one of those quarterbacks interest you, Malik Willis 470 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. 471 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: Malik Willis would because I think there's something there still 472 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: just twenty six years old. You could give him a 473 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: Justin Fields type contract, little bit more because he's he's 474 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: the last, you know, pretty girl without a date to 475 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: the ball in this kind of free agency conversation of quarterbacks. 476 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: His age not going to break the bank, but a 477 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: little bit more I think than the Justin Fields deal. 478 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: If it doesn't work out after one year, it doesn't 479 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: cripple your salary cap anything like that. You give him 480 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: his guaranteed money up front. It's not some massive dead hit. 481 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: If he doesn't hit like you think he can. I 482 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: would be interested in that option. Yeah, of all the 483 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: if it's not going to be Aaron Rodgers, and we 484 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 3: have to be realistic with this because there is that 485 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 3: little voice in the back of my head that's like, 486 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 3: if it's not Aaron Rodgers, just let Will Howard and 487 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph do it for the year and if it 488 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: works out, great, If it doesn't, you're in good position 489 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: to draft one for next year. But we know that 490 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 3: that's not how the Pittsburgh Steelers think and operate. There's 491 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: never going to be a sunken cost. Yeah, so any 492 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 3: other option I think too. We are buddies with the 493 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: Colts broadcast crew and Matt Taylor. He came on. He 494 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: came on with uh, Matt Williamson and I yesterday and 495 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: made it basically sound like it's a foregone conclusion that 496 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones will be back. They want him, he wants 497 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: to be here, and that that is going to get 498 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 3: done because. 499 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 4: He would interest me. He would interest me twenty nine. 500 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: But I mean, if you can get seven or eight 501 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: really competitive years out of a guy who's an above 502 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: average player, which is what he looked like, with a 503 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: better situation and a really good coach, but I don't 504 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: think that's gonna happen. 505 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: I don't think he's I don't think he's an option. 506 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: So of all the other again, which you would like, 507 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: realistic options, not Hey, you know, let's go, let's go 508 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 3: trade for Joe Burrow from the Cincinnati Bengals, all your 509 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: realistic options. Not interested in Kyle Murray, I don't want to. 510 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: I would be interested in the player Mac Jones, but 511 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: not what it's gonna take to get him. In terms 512 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 3: of draft picks. I don't think there's no one really 513 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: else that you know, this is not a good time 514 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: to be looking for a quarterback, right. It's just so, 515 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: I don't think you're gonna have the opportunity to I 516 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: unless you get an answer from Aaron Rodgers in the 517 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 3: what next thirteen days until free agency opens and it's 518 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 3: actually only eleven days until that illegal tampering that negotiation 519 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: period opens. Malik Willis is gonna be one of those 520 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 3: first people off the board. Remember a few years ago 521 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: how much Trubisky was. It was Mitch Trubisky was the 522 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 3: kind of similar to Malik Willis at that time, not 523 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 3: nearly as highly drafted. Willis was the third round guy, 524 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: but Trubisky was second overall pick in the draft. Second 525 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: opportunity here, you know, has he found some uh, you know, 526 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: some some career redemption type thing and he was off 527 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: the board right away by the Steelers the first day 528 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: of free agency. That's what's gonna happen with Malik Willis. 529 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 3: He's gonna get a big contract from somebody on the 530 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: first day and you probably won't have an Aaron Rodgers answer. 531 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: By that and a caution. 532 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: As much as there are, you know, the Sam Darnold 533 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: success stories that pop up every now and again, there 534 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: are far more Mitch Trubisky stories. They are far more correct, 535 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: uh you know of UH who justin fields than there 536 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 2: are of that guy hitting uh. 537 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 4: Malik Willis. 538 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: By the way, and I mentioned that we were going 539 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 2: to you know, coming out of that ad with UH 540 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: with Jane, Daniel, Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal, that the Greg 541 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: Rosenthal has his top one hundred and one free agents. 542 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 2: Malik Willis is numero uno that has. 543 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: He has come up a long way, and it only 544 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 4: takes one team to say we believe in him, and 545 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 4: we think he's going to be the guy to price 546 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 4: him out of that twenty five million dollar a year 547 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 4: range and into the forty million dollar a year range, 548 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 4: because you know that's what he's gonna. 549 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: Be looking for. Well, I wonder what his true priority is. 550 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: Is it just this is my the stars of a 551 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 3: line for me, I am again, I'm the I'm the 552 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: best I'm the best looking person at the ball that 553 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: still doesn't have a dance partner, and I'm gonna cash 554 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 3: in and I'm gonna make a nice, nice payday here. 555 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 3: I wouldn't fault him for that. What if he's also 556 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: looking at it, though, is I'm twenty six? This is 557 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: my redemption shot. Do I want the most money that 558 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: I can get right now? Or do I want to 559 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: be a starter in this league for the next decade yep? 560 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 3: And the money that that could bring down the line 561 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: for me? 562 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: Yep? True point? 563 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 3: And do I want to go to a place like 564 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: New York or Arizona or Miami where it's going to 565 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: be tough at least in twenty twenty six to have 566 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: any level of success, Or do I take a little 567 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 3: bit less to go to a Minnesota Vikings or a 568 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers or someone like that that's a better, more 569 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: stable organization and will give me a much better chance 570 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 3: to improve my reputation. 571 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it might be dur number two. 572 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 3: I'd that's one of those things that only he can answer. 573 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: I know nothing about him as a person, and well, 574 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: I'll also. 575 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: Say this, man, if somebody's going to give you one 576 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty million dollars guaranteed. 577 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 4: Stop and think about that. 578 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 2: We just throw around these numbers like they're like, that's 579 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: what you know you're making by working your job in Pittsburgh. 580 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 4: We're not making that kind of money. 581 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: Right, Kinger it is. I promise you this right now. 582 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 3: If if I if I was getting one hundred and 583 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 3: twenty million dollars, I love you guys, I love doing 584 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: this for a living. But I wouldn't be staying here 585 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: in a hotel. No, I wouldn't be staying here at 586 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: the Courtyard Marriott for a week in Indianapolis. 587 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 4: It changes. 588 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: I'd be in the wilderness somewhere in my big, nice 589 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 3: log cabin. 590 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 4: You know. 591 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: I always talk about the nuances of this and that 592 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 2: and how it affects things in this player, affecting that player, 593 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: in this decision, affecting that decision. That's the kind of 594 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: money that sets you up and your kids up, and 595 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: your grandkids up and your great grandkids are. And so 596 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to say, you're great, great multi generations that 597 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: you're never gonna make, say generational wealth. It's multi generational wealth, 598 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: so that you know, listen, that's hard to pass up. 599 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 2: I don't Cat's exactly right. 600 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: I don't care how much of a big vision you 601 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: have for your career, how well your head is, you know, 602 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: screwed on your shoulders. That's tough to pass up. Okay, 603 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 3: So let's quickly. 604 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: Because that is such an important conversation, and I think 605 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: we are in accordance with our views in the quarterback position. 606 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: Running back is interesting to me. You have Jalen Warren 607 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: two more years left on his deal, Caleb Johnson, you know, 608 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: coming off his rookie season, he still has three more 609 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 2: years left. And will you bring back Kenneth Gainwell, will 610 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 2: you save that money for somewhere else, maybe try to 611 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: pop a running back in the fifth round or so 612 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: as opposed to bringing back Kenny Gamewell because you have 613 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: belief that Caleb Johnson's ready to take a step forward, 614 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: or you say, hey, come on, man, this is our 615 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: MVP from a year ago. Let's sign him to a contract. 616 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: Maybe we're looking at you know, six seven million dollars 617 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: a year. If he accepts that, let's bring him back. 618 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's what they're gonna do now. 619 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: And again, no, it's possible that some team is gonna say, hey, 620 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: you're you're a nine million dollar a year, uh, number 621 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: one running back. You come here, that's what you're going 622 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: to be. If somebody views him that way, it's going 623 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: to be very difficult to match that money for the Steelers. 624 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: Yes it is. And you know you are not paying 625 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: Jalen Warren a ransom, but he's in that he's in 626 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: that same range. You want to hang on to him. 627 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: I the Kenneth Gainwell. You know what I've been the 628 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: last couple of weeks saying it's a hard decision. Maybe 629 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: that's the wrong way to label it because it's a 630 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: difficult decision. But I don't think either answer is wrong. 631 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: Because if you are able to get Kenneth Gainwell, as 632 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: you mentioned, somewhere in that price range, bring him back 633 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: that tandem with Jalen Warren. We all know Aaron Rodgers 634 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 3: big fan of Kenneth Gainwell and was able to have 635 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 3: a lot of success in the relationship that those two had, 636 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: and you know, seemingly, especially down the back half of 637 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: the season, really being on the same page. Great, awesome, 638 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: I'm there for it, sign me up. But also, if 639 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: if Kenny g gets a bigger money offer from some 640 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: that he wants to cash in on and and he 641 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: ends up, you know, you end up losing your team 642 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: MVP from last year. I'm okay with that too, because 643 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: then I think you can go out and you can 644 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: get a different body type. That's the I like the 645 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 3: Steelers running back room. But Caleb Johnson was supposed to 646 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 3: be that hammer. He was supposed to be that bigger 647 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 3: body type. And his story is far from written. He 648 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: could still be that. But that I want. I want 649 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 3: somebody that's you know, I want thunder and lightning in 650 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: my backfield. I don't want two thunders or two lightnings 651 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: like that. I want that blend. And so either way, 652 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: if Kenny G's back, great, hopefully you do start to 653 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: get that out of Caleb Johnson. If he's not, I 654 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 3: don't want to say great, But I don't think that's 655 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: a disaster either. That's fine. You go, you go get 656 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: another running back that you think compliments Jalen warn. 657 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 4: I want Kenneth game Well back. I do. I want 658 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 4: him back. 659 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: I think that he's a really good uh you know, 660 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: he's a good teammate the running back room. I mean, 661 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: he and Jalen Warren super supportive of each other, so 662 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: there's no bickering about playing time or wasn't. Certainly this 663 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: last year he was your MVP. If you can get 664 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 2: him back, that's always the caveat. If you can get 665 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: him back at a at a price you're comfortable with. 666 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: I think you bring him back now. Having said that, 667 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: at forty five million dollars in cap space, now if 668 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: I've signed Aaron Rodgers and Kenny Gamebell might be down 669 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: to about fifteen million. 670 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 4: Okay. 671 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: We have to keep that in mind as we go 672 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: through this exercise. So we're not going to examine other 673 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: running backs that are out there because I don't see 674 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: the team unless you want to different. I don't see 675 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: the team going out and getting like a Kenneth Walker 676 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: type in free agency. That's going to be number one, 677 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: clear number one running back numb money. I don't see 678 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: that happening. I do not either, Okay, So we're going 679 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: to dismiss that possibility, of course, with a caveat always 680 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: that we might be wrong anything crazier. 681 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: So there you have, Hey, crazier things have happened than 682 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: you and I being wrong. Right. 683 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, we are going to get to some of the 684 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: more fascinating positions this Steelers. After we've run through quarterback 685 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: and running back, we continue here from the Combine in 686 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: Indianapolis on Steelers Nation. 687 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: Radio, part of the Studer's Audio network. 688 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: This is live Cobery Jumbout twenty twenty six NFL Combine 689 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers Audio Network. 690 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: And we are continuing our look at the Steelers roster 691 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: because we're here at the combine, right, we're talking about 692 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: who they might draft. Well, what are the needs, right, 693 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: what are the positions of need? So I think that 694 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: you know, just to recap forty five million dollars in 695 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: cap space, seventeen offensive players under contract for this season, 696 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: so you're looking at you want to get that number 697 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: up to you know, twenty five, twenty four, twenty five, 698 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: twenty six, somewhere in there. The draft will affect that 699 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: free agency effect that possibly bringing back some of your 700 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: players will affect that. So we have Aaron Rodgers back 701 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: on the team, right, I've got Kenny Gamewell back at 702 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: the team, So that pumps me up down to nineteen 703 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: players on offense, so we need six. 704 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 4: You're a little more on the fence about Kenneth Ganewell. Yeah. 705 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: Again, Like I said, I don't think there's a wrong answer, 706 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 3: you know. I just if he's back, I'm I'm thumbs up, 707 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: all good. If he's not, I think you can still 708 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: go out and you can find a nice complimentary piece 709 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: for Jalen Warren and whether that be in the draft 710 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 3: or and free agency. 711 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: So we're at nineteen right now, either a draft or 712 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: free agency for a complimentary running back for Wes. 713 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: I haven't spent a draft pick yet. 714 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: I got my quarterback, and I got Kenneth Gamewell coming 715 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: back wide receiver. Here's a position that the Steelers have 716 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: three players under contract. Dk Metcalf four more years at 717 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: thirty one million dollars, Ben Skronick one more year, two 718 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: point eight million dollars. Roman Wilson twenty five years old, 719 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: two more years left. He's making one point six million dollars. 720 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: This to me, the analogy I've made this is this 721 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 2: year's defensive line for the Steelers. Steelers went out last 722 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: year and intentionally and got three guys, one in free 723 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: agency in a quality, two guys in the draft in 724 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: Harmon and Black. They also signed Tomo Woe as an 725 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 2: additional depth piece and of course, he wound up being 726 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: a factor for the team last year. I think that's 727 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: what they're gonna do here. I think they're going to 728 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: add three wide receivers, and I think one of those 729 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 2: wide receivers will come in free agency. 730 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 3: Man, would you stop saying all these things that I 731 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 3: agree with so I can push back against you at 732 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 3: some point here? I think, actually, and you know what, Kinger, 733 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 3: I'm going to steal this at some point on the drive. 734 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 3: So just you know, the you know, see no evil 735 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 3: speak no evil. I think you're That was a terrible analogy. 736 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, but okay, just to just go with it, 737 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 3: you know, like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. He's 738 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 3: on a roll. Just just just let him go. I 739 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 3: think the analogy that you used there, the parallel of 740 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 3: what they did with defensive line last year is great. 741 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 3: I hadn't even thought about it in that regard, but 742 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 3: that's what they just did with the defensive line free 743 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 3: agent veteran free agent, first round draft pick, later draft 744 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: pick in y A. Black. It doesn't have to be 745 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 3: exactly that, but that's the type of formula I'm looking for. 746 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: You need to add three wide receivers right one in 747 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 3: free agency one. I'm not saying it has to be 748 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 3: at pick twenty one, but it better be with one 749 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 3: of your first two picks, I think so. And then 750 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: you add a guy in the fourth round, in the 751 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 3: fifth round wherever. 752 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 4: That's how exactly I think it's too. 753 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 3: Two rookies, one of whom is drafted with one of 754 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 3: your first two picks, and then and then a veteran 755 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 3: that whether it's a free agent signing, whether it's a 756 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 3: potential trade that you could make. There's still I think 757 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 3: some cut candidates at wide receiver before the new league 758 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 3: calendar turns over here in a couple of weeks that 759 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 3: might become available, you know, by the time we're all 760 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 3: on air, you know, next week in Pittsburgh doing stuff. 761 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: I think there's a chance that there could be another 762 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 3: wide receiver name or two in this conversation. So yeah, 763 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 3: I think that's a really good roadmap, a really good 764 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 3: kind of blueprint there. 765 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 2: And I think the twothers will hit it early because 766 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: they've tried to hit it late the last couple of 767 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: years and they've really been unable to do so. They've 768 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: they've tried gone they've gone big game hunting and they 769 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: haven't able to bag a trophy. 770 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 3: You're a You're a author fantasy novels, right. 771 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 4: Absolutely, this is this is now The Door and the 772 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 4: Stone and Sandina's Prophecy now available on Amazon. Anyway, go ahead. 773 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: This is this is the This is the third year 774 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 3: now that we've been having the same conversations about the 775 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 3: Wide Receiver room. I want this to be the trilogy. 776 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: This is the return of the King. All right, Luke 777 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: Skywalker is gonna is gonna save his dad Anakin. All right, 778 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 3: Aragon's gonna sit on the throne. This is the end 779 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 3: of the trilogy. I don't need a fourth episode. Let's 780 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 3: not make this Harry Potter when we return next year. 781 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 3: I don't need more books in this Wide Receiver trilogy. 782 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 3: I want to close it down this offseason. 783 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 4: Okay, so let's examine then, uh, the wide receivers. 784 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 2: Okay, so this again, this is the list compiled by 785 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: NFL Network in specific Greg Rosenthal, where Malik Willis is 786 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: the number one guy, number two guy in the list. 787 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 2: George Pickens ain't happening. He's probably gonna be franchise tag. Hey, 788 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 2: he's probably gonna be franchise tag. 789 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so what am I tom gonna say 790 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 3: never say never, but never. 791 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And just to quickly run down some of these 792 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: guys just so you know, Jail and Phillips Edge, I 793 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: don't see that happening, Tyler Lindebaum Center, that's not going 794 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: to happen. Alex Pierce, he might follow harball Alex Pierce, 795 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 2: by the way, news news from CUB reporter a CUB 796 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 2: reporter from the locker room, Shaeffer King saying Anthony Richardson 797 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: has been granted the ability to request to trade across 798 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: the timeline here. Yeah, there is requested and has been 799 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: given the opportunity to seek a trade. 800 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 3: Which makes me think even more so they they've got 801 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 3: a handshat something, right, So. 802 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 4: Alec Pierce wide receiver, very very intriguing. Don't see it happening. 803 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: Neither do I not because I wouldn't be interested. But 804 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 3: I think he's got another Malik Willis type, same church, 805 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: different pew where he's one of the last good looking 806 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 3: people left at the ball without a dance partner. And 807 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 3: I think he's a if you were asking me who's 808 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 3: gonna get over potential to get overpaid. Not that they're 809 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 3: not good players, not that they don't deserve a nice contract, 810 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 3: but just overpaid. Malik Willis is obviously number one, but 811 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 3: he might be number two. 812 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 4: I think the other thing that has been floated is 813 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 4: the Colts signing Piers and with that crowding out of 814 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 4: Michael Pittman, who I love, Yes, I love Michael. 815 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 3: We had that conversation with Matt Taylor yesterday, Voice of 816 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 3: the Colts. He said he thinks that those reports are exaggerated. 817 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 3: He thinks the Colts want to keep find a way 818 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 3: to keep them all. Now I'm sure they do, right, 819 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 3: but at the same time, they've got salary cap issues. 820 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,959 Speaker 3: They've got some guys that some mouths that need fish. 821 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 4: Is it Jacob Downs your third receiver? 822 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 3: Yes, Caleb Downs, Okay, love them They probably probably just 823 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 3: in terms of pure pure prospect grades, probably probably prospect 824 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 3: number one in this in this NFL draft, I think 825 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 3: Caleb Downs. Okay, you talk about Josh Downs. 826 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: Josh Downs. 827 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 3: I like Josh Downs too. So for the Colts, though, 828 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 3: the big kicker is remember no first round pick because 829 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 3: the sauce Garder trade right, so they want to try 830 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 3: and hold on to as much of their own as 831 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 3: they can because they don't have the draft picks that 832 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 3: that you would typically want. 833 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so the rest of the list, you're gonna're gonna 834 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 2: get to other receivers if you don't think he's uh, 835 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna run down the list because some of 836 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 2: these guys are gonna avoid. 837 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson, Devin Lloyd, I love, I loved him at Utah, 838 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 3: but he's gonna get He's another one we're gonna do. 839 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 3: We're gonna doa defense later. He's a really he's a 840 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 3: really good player who might get great. He's a he's 841 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 3: a a my B plus a minus student who might 842 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 3: get valedictorian money here in a few days. 843 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So Daniel Jones, Adafi Oway. Again, I don't see 844 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 2: any of these edges. Kenneth Walker, we talked about him. 845 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 2: Don't see it. Boy Mafi another edge. Uh Rashid Shaheed 846 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: wide receiver for Seattle. 847 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 3: He's interesting, but he's a He's a smaller slot type guy. 848 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 3: He doesn't have the I think, quite the versatility you're 849 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 3: looking at for a number two. But if he's your 850 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: number three with a U, a high draft pick that 851 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 3: you trust to be number two is a rookie I 852 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 3: certainly think that that would be something i'd be interested in, 853 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 3: worth worth a conversation to consider a brisaw. 854 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 4: Basically, they said they're gonna franchise Tag if they can't 855 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 4: come up with. 856 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 3: You know what, and Matt brought this up. I thought 857 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 3: it was really smart. Franchise Breesehall. Now if you stink 858 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 3: this season, trade him to the Chiefs for a second 859 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 3: round draft pick at the trade deadline. 860 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 2: Uh So again, I'm just running through here with the 861 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna skip ahead because 862 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 2: we have some players that I want to come back to, 863 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of tight ends. Now ranked number twenty one, 864 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 2: and I saw him ranked a lot lower before another 865 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 2: player that I really like. Not a big guy. If 866 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 2: you told me you're gonna draft him, he's gonna be 867 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 2: your three, which means you got to spend a high 868 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 2: pick on a on a on a wide receiver in 869 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 2: the draft. Wandale Robinson, the Giants love him, love his game, 870 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: little guy, super quick, a lot of first downs, a 871 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 2: lot of underneath catches. Showed a little more this year. 872 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 2: Uh with the injury to Malik Neighbors. He he intrigues me. 873 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: Agn what what's the price tag gonna be? 874 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 3: But he intrigues me absolutely, And but again it's all 875 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 3: it's all about having the right types for your for 876 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 3: your three receivers, for those kind of X, Y and 877 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 3: Z profiles. If right will so if you tell me 878 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 3: this slot guy, if you're telling me right now that 879 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 3: the first round pick at twenty one is six' Four 880 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 3: Denzel boston out Of, washington to go with A Wandale 881 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 3: robinson or something like, that, sure but that's the then you. 882 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 3: CAN'T i don't think going Draft Makayle, lemon who's under six, 883 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 3: foot you can't go in draft K C conception. 884 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 4: Might be able to he might be able to play. 885 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 4: OUTSIDE i don't. 886 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 3: Know The georgia guy who's five to. TEN i think 887 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 3: that would take that option off the board if you 888 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 3: go with one of those types in free, Agency, OKAY 889 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: i WOULD i would want a bigger, body wide receiver 890 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 3: in the draft In. 891 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 2: April then the other, GUY i think that at number twenty, 892 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: eight who's a guy THAT i THINK i would be 893 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 2: very very interested? In who is a big? Guy Is 894 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: Romeo dobs six two two oh. Four you Know i've seen. 895 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 2: Different i've seen him ranked as the top wide receiver. 896 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 4: Available he's ranked lower here on this nfl Dot com, 897 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 4: ranking but he is a guy that if you could 898 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 4: get him for a good, price he would very very 899 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 4: much interest. 900 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 3: Me, YEAH i, Agree and now the price is again the, 901 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 3: kicker because wide receiver is one of those positions in 902 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 3: free agency like, quarterback a, lot like offensive, tackle. Cornerback 903 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 3: you're us only twenty. 904 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 2: Six by the, way you're all second contract. Guys i'm 905 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 2: ignoring anybody who's thirty. 906 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 3: One. AGREED i that's ABSOLUTELY i think for wide receivers. 907 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 3: ESPECIALLY i think when we if we were to have 908 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 3: this conversation about corners or safeties in the free agent, 909 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 3: MARKET i think it's the. SAME i want him in 910 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 3: that twenty six twenty seven second contract. Range, Yeah Romeo 911 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 3: dobbs would absolutely be interested. IN i think he's really 912 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 3: leveled up his. 913 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 2: Game Juwan jennings is another guy very quickly that it's 914 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 2: going to be out. There BUT i DON'T i don't 915 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: think you're looking at an absolute, number you, know a 916 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 2: surefire number two opposite OF Dk metcalf with any of 917 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 2: these guys that we've, discussed after After Alex, pierce as 918 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: we get into that kind of next level of, guys 919 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 2: so that's something to. Consider we are breaking down The steelers' 920 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 2: roster because you got to know your roster before you 921 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 2: know the. Draft we're going to get into that more 922 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 2: draft talk as well when we continue On Steelers Nation, 923 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 2: radio a part of The Steelers Audio. 924 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 4: Network