Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong and.
Speaker 2: Gettie and he Armstrong and Yeddy.
Speaker 3: The DC Court of Appeals is upheld a decision to
Speaker 3: block the Trump administration from deporting Venezuelan gang member style
Speaker 3: salvad Or under the Alien Enemies Act, ruling those powers
Speaker 3: are limited to wartime, not organized crime, making it likely
Speaker 3: this case goes to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: This is not going to end well.
Speaker 4: So we're getting them out in record numbers, and we're
Speaker 4: having a lot of problems with the courts because the
Speaker 4: courts want to pretend they're president. Then they're not president.
Speaker 4: They didn't get eighty million votes. A.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll get that argument. More on that in a second.
Speaker 5: Let's hear the rest of this report.
Speaker 3: Here are the judges that ruled against the Trump administration.
Speaker 3: Care and Henderson appointed the Appeals Court by George H. W. Bush,
Speaker 3: and Patricia Millett appointed by Barack Obama. Now Justin Walker
Speaker 3: Trump appointing twenty twenty said quote. The government has also
Speaker 3: shown that the district courts orders threatened irreparable harm and
Speaker 3: delicate negotiations with foreign powers on matters concerning national security,
Speaker 3: and that harm outweighs the plaintiff's desire to file a
Speaker 3: suit in the District of Columbia.
Speaker 5: So there's the politics of it in the law of it, right,
Speaker 5: there are different stories. Really, I'm looking up at Fox
Speaker 5: MS thirteen gang members deported, and then they're going through
Speaker 5: some of these dudes and their violent histories.
Speaker 2: And what about their rights?
Speaker 5: Jack right, So Trump has managed to put people in
Speaker 5: the position of wanting to stand up for violent gang
Speaker 5: members when you've got the you know, just the flat
Speaker 5: legal aspect of it being persons in the United States
Speaker 5: have rights, and did these people's rights get violated before
Speaker 5: they were shipped out? And that's you know, something we
Speaker 5: got to make sure of. And then Trump's argument that
Speaker 5: they didn't get eighty million votes, Well, we got different
Speaker 5: branches and we have reason. We have a judicial system
Speaker 5: and they're appointed and not elected to deal with It's
Speaker 5: a balance thing, maybe, but he either knows that it doesn't.
Speaker 5: But again, he's trying to win the politics part of it.
Speaker 5: That's his main goal.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Worth mentioning that the entire idea of the Constitution is
Speaker 2: protected to protect us from a you know, dictatorship of
Speaker 2: the majority anyway, right, And you wouldn't want to end up.
Speaker 5: With a you know, a democratic president snatching people off
Speaker 5: the street for whatever reason under some whatever war powers
Speaker 5: act from whatever very old statute to happen either.
Speaker 2: But so where things where are things currently legally speaking?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I judge stepped in and said you can't
Speaker 5: deport anybody else.
Speaker 2: Well, it was the u U Court of Appeals for
Speaker 2: the d C Circuit, the most liberal circuit. Court two
Speaker 2: to one on Wednesday denied the Justice Department's bid to
Speaker 2: lift the block while it fights the lawsuit. Not shocking
Speaker 2: at all. It'll keep going until it's in the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: But one thing that bothered me. The Wall Street Journal's
Speaker 2: journalism is skewing further and further left. Is shocking. It's
Speaker 2: like senior sister in a hoe house or your brother
Speaker 2: dot dot dot fill in the blank ere if you
Speaker 2: like to, here's a paragraph for air sentence for you.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Two to one decisions. Abadu Badou challenged
Speaker 2: President Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen
Speaker 2: ninety eight to carry out the deportations. The law has
Speaker 2: rarely been used. That's true. It is meant to be
Speaker 2: invoked at times when the nation is at war. This
Speaker 2: is a news story where they state as fact one
Speaker 2: interpretation of the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight,
Speaker 2: when there are absolutely anybody with a shred of an
Speaker 2: intellectual honesty knows there are different ways to interpret the Act,
Speaker 2: including an occursion by a hostile power not during a
Speaker 2: declared state of war. You read this specific wording of
Speaker 2: the act, it's a third act, like there's one and
Speaker 2: only one interpret.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't call that an interpretation. They just didn't even
Speaker 5: read the next clause. Well, yeah, it's it's overt bias.
Speaker 5: It's blatant bias.
Speaker 2: Shame on. Let's name names here, Jack, It's more fun
Speaker 2: that way, Jan Wolf, Michelle Hackman puts the hack bag
Speaker 2: in Hackman and Victoria Albert a trio of ladies.
Speaker 5: Now, whether or not this counts as a whatever incursion,
Speaker 5: I don't know Court's going to decide on that. But uh,
Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting that our DHS Secretary Christi
Speaker 5: nom visited that Venezuelan prison yesterday. I don't know if
Speaker 5: you saw that. Why she dressed so hot. I don't
Speaker 5: quite get that.
Speaker 2: But anyway, if I'm going to a giant El Salvadoran
Speaker 2: prison full of the worst desperadoes on earth, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: throw on maybe a little jacket over my shapely bot
Speaker 2: in my tight, tight white top. But you know, I
Speaker 2: just I wouldn't want to incite a horniness driven prison riot.
Speaker 2: This is quite the prison.
Speaker 5: Here's Peter Deucey describing the conditions there.
Speaker 7: They spend twenty three and a half hours in those cells.
Speaker 7: Each cell has seventy people. They eat, they bathe, they
Speaker 7: use the bathroom in front of each other. The meals
Speaker 7: are beans in pasta. The bunks are four levels high,
Speaker 7: and on the bunks back there there are no sheets,
Speaker 7: no mattresses, no pillows, and most of those people are
Speaker 7: in there for life. Most will never see the out
Speaker 7: of doors again. One man, she was introduced yesterday to
Speaker 7: a man who is serving four hundred and sixty five
Speaker 7: years for homicide and terrorism.
Speaker 2: Because at twenty three and a half hours a day
Speaker 2: in that room with all those people and your sheetless, pillowless,
Speaker 2: spacked four high bed, we have better rights for chickens
Speaker 2: in California than they have in Venezuela for the prisons. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you don't want to get shit there, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And part of the.
Speaker 5: Point from people who are worried about this is that
Speaker 5: we grabbed some people, you know, the Venezuelan gang members hardcore.
Speaker 5: I don't care if they get something back there, what
Speaker 5: do I care?
Speaker 2: But if you grabbed somebody, and there are examples out
Speaker 2: there that I don't know if they're true or not,
Speaker 2: but the New York Times and pr and various people, Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, you grabbed some guy who's not in a
Speaker 2: gang at all, you miss you misinterpreted his tattoo.
Speaker 5: He's just a regular dude here from Venezuela. He's here illegally,
Speaker 5: but he's not a gang member and he shouldn't be
Speaker 5: thrown in that prison.
Speaker 2: Yeah. This tattoo is my favorite soccer team. I'm please
Speaker 2: let me out of here now.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that happened or not, but that
Speaker 5: need is getting nailed down too, and obviously that would
Speaker 5: be horrific.
Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful example of what we're always talking about. If
Speaker 2: you don't want the other side to exercise a power
Speaker 2: in way that you find horrifying, well then we can't either.
Speaker 2: But it remains to be seen whether those accusations are true.
Speaker 2: Would NPR lie to us Jack more than that coming
Speaker 2: up at the bottom of the hour, just horrific and
Speaker 2: almost hilarious lying by the current head of NPR to
Speaker 2: Congress yesterday.
Speaker 5: Well, our friend Tim Sanderfer's been tweeting out any and
Speaker 5: all of those stories of people allegedly not gang members
Speaker 5: or even really bad people who've got sent to that
Speaker 5: really bad prison, and he's concerned about due process. I
Speaker 5: don't want due process violated either, So let's get this
Speaker 5: all figured out and nailed down. Part of the point
Speaker 5: of Christy Nome going and tour in that prison, though,
Speaker 5: and then having all that information come out about how
Speaker 5: horrible that is is to have people who are here
Speaker 5: illegally think maybe I had to self deport. Maybe I
Speaker 5: ought to go back on my own and just go
Speaker 5: back to living my life in Venezuela so I don't
Speaker 5: end up getting snatched off the street and set to
Speaker 5: that prison.
Speaker 2: I have a chance to say, hey, I'm not an
Speaker 2: Emma's thirty. Well she said as much. Why don't we
Speaker 2: go ahead and run clip sixty five. This is the
Speaker 2: secretary yourself want everybody.
Speaker 1: To know if you come to our country illegally, this
Speaker 1: is one of the consequences you could face. First of all,
Speaker 1: do not come to our country illegally. You will be
Speaker 1: removed and you will be prosecuted. But no that this
Speaker 1: facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that
Speaker 1: we will use if you commit crimes against the American people.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought it was plenty when Biden
Speaker 2: just said, oh yeah, I was going to say, that's
Speaker 2: so let in millions and millions of people. That's the
Speaker 2: only way don't works, whether you're a parent or copper,
Speaker 2: whatever you are, is if there's actual evidence of a
Speaker 2: repercussion for ignoring what you're saying. As my old bandmate
Speaker 2: Bob used to put it, Bob was one of the
Speaker 2: most sad and depressed individuals I've ever met in my life. Wow,
Speaker 2: I dealt with public aid. He was a terrific guitar player, awesome,
Speaker 2: but he dealt with public aid in Champagne or Banna, Illinois.
Speaker 2: I can't remember what's the name of the county, it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. But he dealt with people all day long
Speaker 2: who were on welfare and was trying to help them.
Speaker 2: Not beyond welfare manage their lives, become productive citizens the
Speaker 2: rest of it. And if you want soul crushing work,
Speaker 2: that's it. I got a family member doing that, and
Speaker 2: I'll be interested how long she can stay positive interacting
Speaker 2: with that crowd. If you're under the illusion that everybody's
Speaker 2: trying their best and it's only the system holding them down,
Speaker 2: spend a couple of weeks doing that. Anyway, it's old depressive.
Speaker 2: Bob used to say, Joe, an order that doesn't include
Speaker 2: a sanction is merely a suggestion. Yeah, so that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you stand in front of one of those
Speaker 5: prison cells where seventy people are stacked for deep poop
Speaker 5: it in front of each other, your don't has more
Speaker 5: meaning than if you're doing it from the oval office,
Speaker 5: and so far you haven't booted out a single human being.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I like how from Peter Doocey to the
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal they make a big h and to you, sarh,
Speaker 2: they make a big deal of the fact that you
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom in front of each other. Some
Speaker 2: of the Marines they seem to be fine. You get
Speaker 2: over it.
Speaker 5: That I would not enjoy it at all, But that
Speaker 5: wouldn't be shortly after I'm in that cell. That wouldn't
Speaker 5: be a high priority of my worries. No, my worry
Speaker 5: would be I'm going to be somebody's sexual release sweetheart, sweetheart,
Speaker 5: or get your head caved in?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: Given the choice, you know what? Can I borrow some lipstick?
Speaker 5: Can you imagine how real politicket is in one of
Speaker 5: those cells where you got to figure out, Okay, I
Speaker 5: got a band together with some sort of group. I
Speaker 5: can't be on my own? Which group do I band with?
Speaker 5: Who's in charge? What's like American prisons too? To a
Speaker 5: large extent, Yeah, but this would be this would happen
Speaker 5: so fast. Well, and if you don't speak Spanish, good
Speaker 5: luck to you, ombre. Can you imagine saying excuse me,
Speaker 5: excuse me, I can tell your mad Can you translate
Speaker 5: that for me normal English? You got your Google translated appa?
Speaker 2: Oh no, you don't me meo no, no, sodomeo boy
Speaker 2: not helping, no, not helping more on the ways to
Speaker 2: hear anyway? Oh and two.
Speaker 3: Armstrong hetty jacksmin Crockett claimed her hot wheels remark about
Speaker 3: Governor Abbott wasn't.
Speaker 2: About his wheelchair. Yeah, and when we call her a
Speaker 2: lousy ho. We're referring to her skills as a gardener. Wait, wow,
Speaker 2: that was a career ender three years ago.
Speaker 8: I love it. As a woman, I love it. She sucks,
Speaker 8: so she made it.
Speaker 2: Do we have any evidence whatsoever that she is a
Speaker 2: sex worker exchanges?
Speaker 5: Well, he didn't call her pleasures for cash or other
Speaker 5: items of worth.
Speaker 8: He didn't call her a sex worker. Is that when
Speaker 8: we call her a wher, we're talking about your poor
Speaker 8: gardening skills.
Speaker 2: And that's troubled effort at humor.
Speaker 8: That's because of what she said about Governor Abbit.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, said calling Governor hot wheels. Wasn't about the
Speaker 2: fact that he's in a wheelchair. Was about his using
Speaker 2: buses to deport illegals from Texas. No, there's her on
Speaker 2: the record calling him that years before the buses started.
Speaker 2: She is a piece of gotabie. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm just to the Maybe it's the air I
Speaker 5: grew up, and I'm not comfortable with calling a woman
Speaker 5: a hoe.
Speaker 2: You're making that giving the pathetic fire. Yeah, just stop it. Really,
Speaker 2: a woman of color would have gotten you fired three
Speaker 2: years ago. Make so you're saying it's just my age,
Speaker 2: it's become.
Speaker 5: It's like the way huh, I said, that's it just
Speaker 5: because she's a woman of color who cares.
Speaker 2: We're all equal.
Speaker 8: Anybody can be a hope.
Speaker 2: Because times change and I don't always like true don
Speaker 2: every little girl can dream of that. Yes, right, I'm big.
Speaker 5: Yes, times change, and I don't like the way times
Speaker 5: change off. And since we're headed one way toward courser.
Speaker 5: But in terms of being in the entertainment industry, I
Speaker 5: have to have an idea of what is acceptable and
Speaker 5: what's not and for the sense purposes of humor. Like
Speaker 5: when I was a kid, my parents wouldn't allow you
Speaker 5: to say anything sucks.
Speaker 2: Oh it's unthinkable to say on the air.
Speaker 5: No, well, I wasn't allowed to say it in our house,
Speaker 5: and then I wouldn't say it on the air. Now
Speaker 5: everybody says it. I mean, it's just a hey, this sucks.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just an expression of.
Speaker 2: I don't like this.
Speaker 5: It doesn't So if hoe has become that as like
Speaker 5: an insult, because I know for my son and his friends,
Speaker 5: it's a pretty common thing to throw around.
Speaker 8: I just bought a hat that says, my dog thinks
Speaker 8: you're a hoe.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll adjust my sales accordingly, Yeah, get a really
Speaker 2: funny hat.
Speaker 8: It really is worth every site.
Speaker 2: Do you have something to add to that, Michael No, So,
Speaker 2: I hope you already bought your ninja sword in England
Speaker 2: if you were planning to.
Speaker 5: Because they've outlawed them. You can no longer buy a
Speaker 5: ninja sword in England. According to care Starmer, the Prime Minister,
Speaker 5: knife crime is at at epidemic levels in Great Britain
Speaker 5: right now. Interesting. I wonder if that's a cultural immigration thing. Anyway,
Speaker 5: they're cracking down. You can't really hardly get guns in
Speaker 5: England like you can here, so if you want to
Speaker 5: hurt somebody, you gotta use some elth Ninja swords will
Speaker 5: be banned as part of a purge on thugs owning
Speaker 5: dangerous knives. The labor leader said. He told the son
Speaker 5: that people of Britain are horrified at how easy it
Speaker 5: is for you to buy a lethal blade of some
Speaker 5: sort online. So they're cracking down on machetes, ninja swords,
Speaker 5: and zombie knives particularly.
Speaker 2: I don't know what a zk is. Never come across
Speaker 2: them a zombie knife is either. I'm not sure that's
Speaker 2: the right approach to uh, squashing crime Britain. You know, weenies,
Speaker 2: zombie knife is like a dagger.
Speaker 8: It's just a straight edge dagger, like if you're running
Speaker 8: into a crowd of zombies.
Speaker 2: You just you know.
Speaker 5: I don't quite get the sure everybody knows that I
Speaker 5: don't quite get knife flaws in general. I carry a
Speaker 5: knife all the time. I carry a knife all the time,
Speaker 5: and I'm very aware of various city knife laws, but
Speaker 5: they're all stupid. Like you know, I traveled between towns
Speaker 5: where they two and a half inch blade's okay, but
Speaker 5: a two and a quarter inch blades not okay. Then
Speaker 5: you go to the next down order a three inch blades.
Speaker 5: I could kill you with any of them if I
Speaker 5: was a nutcase and wanted to the idea that that
Speaker 5: tiny separation in length makes any differences nonsensical.
Speaker 8: I went through TSA on accident with a knife once.
Speaker 8: That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where'd you have it?
Speaker 8: I was in my purse and I was going straight
Speaker 8: from the morning show to the airport to fly to
Speaker 8: Southern California.
Speaker 2: And who are you? Opened a stab? Why did you
Speaker 2: have a knife? Do you carry an eye? Close that information?
Speaker 5: Do you carry a knife like is for self protection
Speaker 5: or whatever all every day. Yeah, I have a knife
Speaker 5: every day too. My mind's somewhat self protection, but mostly
Speaker 5: it just comes in handy all the time, uh, opening
Speaker 5: a package or whatever.
Speaker 2: I use it almost every day. But when I'm walking
Speaker 2: down the street and there's some crazy homeless lunatic, I
Speaker 2: always tap my pocket. Yeah, I got my knife with me.
Speaker 8: Yep, oh, he goes into my hand.
Speaker 2: Well, as you know, I've had several corkscrews confiscated by
Speaker 2: the TSA, because you know, if you can get somebody
Speaker 2: to hold still, you can just screw that thing right
Speaker 2: in there and make your pop a noise?
Speaker 6: Jack, would you?
Speaker 2: Out comes their eye just like that. So they can't
Speaker 2: have me with that on an airliner, clearly. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I've lost like four corkscrews through the air.
Speaker 5: You're a big numbchuck guy too. Oh yeah, practice constantly.
Speaker 5: If you haven't heard the leader of NPR grilled by Congress.
Speaker 2: Yet, this is something I hope you can stay doing. Great,
Speaker 2: Armstrong and getty.
Speaker 9: Perhaps for our most tricky disagreements, seeking the truth and
Speaker 9: seeking to convince others of the truth might not be
Speaker 9: the right place to start. In fact, a reverence for
Speaker 9: the truth might be a distraction that's getting in the
Speaker 9: way of finding common ground and getting things done.
Speaker 5: That's a lady that runs NPR. I remember when she
Speaker 5: got named the new top Marxist NPR. That clip came
Speaker 5: out as an you know, as a warning to a
Speaker 5: lot of us that this is what she believes about
Speaker 5: the truth.
Speaker 2: That's some wacky thinking right there. I would say, yeah,
Speaker 2: as I said earlier, this woman is ilsa she wolf
Speaker 2: of the SS. She is Stalin's unholy knife wielding mistress.
Speaker 2: She is absolutely evil. And I want to share with
Speaker 2: you a clip from James Lindsay, not a clip, but
Speaker 2: a quote. He pointed out, Marxists just lie. They lie
Speaker 2: so overtly and blatantly that people begin to question their
Speaker 2: own perceptions. It works because no one expects another person
Speaker 2: to lie so overtly. They don't look at conversation as
Speaker 2: a way to reach the truth. They use it to
Speaker 2: manipulate you. So you are going to hear this attractive
Speaker 2: youngish woman lie and lie and lie with a smile
Speaker 2: on her face and her chin up. You're not nuts,
Speaker 2: she is well If Representative Brandon gil took a turn
Speaker 2: questioning or go ahead, Jack, are you going to say something?
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say that that whole thing about
Speaker 5: the truth is obviously once you go down that road
Speaker 5: of the truth's getting in the way. Okay, Now what
Speaker 5: version of stories are we going to use? And who
Speaker 5: determines that? And you feel like you should well, like
Speaker 5: you know what, every.
Speaker 2: Conversation ends roughly in the same place when you're talking
Speaker 2: about Marxism, as Orwell warned us. If your north star
Speaker 2: is not truth, for instance, it's what the party says,
Speaker 2: they can take you anywhere, absolutely anywhere, anyway. Brandon Gill,
Speaker 2: whose act I was not really familiar with, took the
Speaker 2: lead in questioning her. This is a masterclass in how
Speaker 2: these congressional hearings ought to go.
Speaker 6: Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy?
Speaker 10: I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier,
Speaker 10: I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the
Speaker 10: last half decade.
Speaker 6: It has evolved. Why did you tweet that?
Speaker 10: I don't recall the exact context, sir, so I wouldn't
Speaker 10: be able to say.
Speaker 6: Okay, do you believe that America believes in black plunder
Speaker 6: and white democracy?
Speaker 10: I don't believe that, sir.
Speaker 6: You tweet it bad. It's reference to a book you
Speaker 6: were reading at the time, apparently, The Case for Reparations.
Speaker 2: I don't think i've ever read that book, sir.
Speaker 6: You tweeted about it. You said you took a day
Speaker 6: off to fully read The Case for Reparations. You put
Speaker 6: that on Twitter in January twenty twenty.
Speaker 10: I apologies. I don't recall that. I did. No doubt
Speaker 10: that your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall.
Speaker 5: Okay, man, my memory is bad, but there's not a chance.
Speaker 5: I read a long nonfiction book that moves me to
Speaker 5: the point of tweeting about it and taking the day off,
Speaker 5: but I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I don't remember reading that. Or then when you're asked,
Speaker 2: well you said all this stuff, Well, I've had a
Speaker 2: change in my transition to my thinking or evolution whatever.
Speaker 2: She said, Yeah, in what way and for what reasons?
Speaker 2: What was it specifically that was screwed up with the
Speaker 2: way you're thinking? She doesn't get there, does she? There's more?
Speaker 6: Do you believe that white people and inherently feel superior
Speaker 6: to other races? I do not. Don't you tweeted something
Speaker 6: to that effect you said I grew up feeling superior. Ha,
Speaker 6: how wide of me. Why did you tweet that?
Speaker 10: I think I was probably reflecting on what it was
Speaker 10: to be to grow up in an environment where I
Speaker 10: had lots of advantages.
Speaker 6: It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior.
Speaker 10: I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir. I
Speaker 10: was just reflecting on my own experiences.
Speaker 6: Do you think that white people should pay reparations?
Speaker 10: I have never said that, sir.
Speaker 6: Yes you did. You said it in January of twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: You tweeted, yes, the North, yes, all of us, Yes, America, Yes,
Speaker 6: our original collective sin and unpaid debt. Yes, reparations, yes
Speaker 6: on this day.
Speaker 10: I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.
Speaker 6: What kind of reparations was it a reference to.
Speaker 10: I think it was just a reference to the idea
Speaker 10: that we all owe much to the people who came
Speaker 10: before us.
Speaker 6: That's a bizarre way to what you tweeted. Okay, how
Speaker 6: how many how much reparations have you personally paid, sir?
Speaker 10: I don't believe that I've ever paid reparations.
Speaker 6: Okay, just for everybody else. I'm not asking anyone to
Speaker 6: be what you're suggesting.
Speaker 5: So that was obviously a very interesting exchange. And I
Speaker 5: didn't mean money when I said reparations. Okay, Well, that's
Speaker 5: what everybody means when they say it. Sondy, you covered
Speaker 5: you in the book you read and recommended, and I
Speaker 5: know how much NPR covered California's efforts to get reparations.
Speaker 2: And that's all about money, sou.
Speaker 5: Anyway, obviously, lie there one interesting thing about that though.
Speaker 5: I did some reading her old tweets last night, and
Speaker 5: about that book she's referencing. It's, uh, she's from the
Speaker 5: Northeast and is talking about various states in the Northeast
Speaker 5: and how they benefited from slavery but hit it better
Speaker 5: and uh and in ways beyond what I'd even ever
Speaker 5: read before. And that is something the North gets away with,
Speaker 5: kind of a moral superiority over the South and their
Speaker 5: slaves and the cotton plantations everything like that.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe a lot of your just regular working people,
Speaker 2: but there was a lot of rich people in the
Speaker 2: North benefiting from slavery and perfectly okay with it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. I wasn't there at the time,
Speaker 2: so I don't feel any guilt, but it's a good
Speaker 2: historical point. Yeah. So she lies, and she lies and
Speaker 2: she lies. She's she's very much like you have to
Speaker 2: think of Catherine Mayer mar or she pronounces her name,
Speaker 2: that could be. I suppose you got to think of
Speaker 2: her as like a Soviet agent who's now being asked,
Speaker 2: are you a Soviet agent? She's saying no. Do you
Speaker 2: believe in Communism? Absolutely not. Do you love America? Of
Speaker 2: course I do. Yes. She's just lying. She's lying and
Speaker 2: lying in lining.
Speaker 5: So you think she believes in Marxism to the extent
Speaker 5: that she thinks, Wow, I have really infiltrated a major
Speaker 5: media center, and I have an opportunity to sway the
Speaker 5: American public toward my belief system of tearing down the
Speaker 5: evil capitalist blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, white supremacist blabla. She's had such a track
Speaker 2: record of public statements, and again they're not like one
Speaker 2: offs after a couple of cosmotinis or something like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, she's a learned woman who has spoken at
Speaker 2: length and in detail about what she believes. She is
Speaker 2: not one of the well meaning soft heads of a
Speaker 2: Davis California or a Madison Wisconsin, who's been convinced that, oh,
Speaker 2: this worldview is how to be a good person, so
Speaker 2: I'm going to go along with it. No, she's she
Speaker 2: knows precisely what she's doing.
Speaker 5: She's in the extreme couple of percent of Americans in
Speaker 5: terms of her politics, and she runs NPR, which is
Speaker 5: on every town in America, no matter how tiny you are.
Speaker 5: I know this because I'm from a lot of tiny towns.
Speaker 5: No matter how tiny you are, you got a little
Speaker 5: NPR station at least, and they're broadcast in their crap
Speaker 5: to everybody.
Speaker 2: And I listen to NPR every day and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of really really really really good.
Speaker 5: Long form journalism on there, but there's also just a
Speaker 5: ton of extreme nut job stuff.
Speaker 2: Not according to ms Meyer Mauer, as we'll get to
Speaker 2: in a moment or two, is Brandon gil Dunn. No,
Speaker 2: he is not. One more clip.
Speaker 6: Do you believe that looting is morally wrong?
Speaker 10: I believe that looting is illegal, and I refer to
Speaker 10: it as counterproductive. I think it should be prosecuted.
Speaker 6: Do you believe it's morally wrong though?
Speaker 2: Of course?
Speaker 6: Of course, then why did you refer to it as
Speaker 6: counter productive? A very different, very different way to describe it.
Speaker 10: It is both morally wrong and counterproductive, as well as being.
Speaker 6: Tweeted, it's hard to be mad about protests in reference
Speaker 6: to the BLM protests not prior oritizing the private property
Speaker 6: of a system of oppression. You didn't condemn the looting,
Speaker 6: you said that it was counter productive. NPR also promoted
Speaker 6: a book called Indefensive Looting. Do you think that that's
Speaker 6: an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 10: I'm unfamiliar with that book, sir, and I don't believe
Speaker 10: that was at my tweeted that you read that book.
Speaker 10: I don't believe that I did read that.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I mean it's it's sporderline laughable. It really is. Wait,
Speaker 2: I believe the looting is wrong. Should be a prosecuting
Speaker 2: full extent in a law. Wait a minute, she's such
Speaker 2: a liar. Oh boy, Oh Jim book, you tweeted that
Speaker 2: you read it. Tell me what's going on? You promoted
Speaker 2: it on your nationwide radio operation. How about Jim Jordan
Speaker 2: roll up your sleeves, Jim, it's your shot next.
Speaker 6: Buddy.
Speaker 2: Seventy four is in PR biased Congressman.
Speaker 10: I have never seen any instance of never of pro
Speaker 10: political bias determining editorial decisions.
Speaker 11: Now well, mister Berliner, in his story a couple last
Speaker 11: year wrote, I've in the DC area editorial positions at NPR.
Speaker 2: He said he found eighty.
Speaker 11: Seven registered Democrats, zero Republicans. Mister Berliner, was he lying
Speaker 11: when he wrote that.
Speaker 10: I am not presuming such I just don't have We
Speaker 10: don't track that information about our journalist.
Speaker 2: Eighty seven to zero.
Speaker 10: And you're not biased, Congressman. I do not believe we
Speaker 10: are politically biased. No, we are a non partisan organization
Speaker 10: on partisan organization.
Speaker 2: That is something. Picture yourself saying that sort of thing
Speaker 2: with a straight face. Does she not burst into flames
Speaker 2: or at some point say I'm sorry, I can't keep
Speaker 2: a straight face anymore. Of course we're biased. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I almost got through it. Marxists just lie. They lie
Speaker 2: so overtly and blatantly that people begin to question their
Speaker 2: own perception.
Speaker 5: The only way you could do that is if you're
Speaker 5: so committed to the I've got to tear down this
Speaker 5: evil system. People are hurting, people are starving, Little kids
Speaker 5: of color are being ruined by white supremacy. I've got
Speaker 5: to lie. You almost have to do it so this
Speaker 5: is PBS. Not that's exactly the same as NPR, but
Speaker 5: same sort of thing. They are being grilled yesterday too,
Speaker 5: and these figures were out. The PBS coverage of the
Speaker 5: Republican Convention was seventy two percent negative. The PBS coverage
Speaker 5: of the DNC convention was eighty eight percent positive, so
Speaker 5: ninety positive versus three quarters negative. I've never seen any bias.
Speaker 5: How do you again, how do you say that with
Speaker 5: a straight face? You just trying to hold your ground.
Speaker 5: You will not give an inch because the glorious revolution
Speaker 5: is coming. Of course, Ultimately, will any of their funding
Speaker 5: get cut? Will they be any different six months from
Speaker 5: now than what I heard some of the crap I
Speaker 5: heard this morning.
Speaker 2: Probably not. I wonder about the funding. It could be that,
Speaker 2: you know, the George Soroses of the world to step
Speaker 2: up and supply, you know, to take care of that
Speaker 2: deficit and funding.
Speaker 5: Don't know, different worldviews. It's really really interesting. So I
Speaker 5: got something good for tomorrow. I didn't want to do
Speaker 5: it today since we had this and it had been
Speaker 5: too much of the same flavor. But Ezra Kleine of
Speaker 5: The New York Times was on Lex Friedman's podcast and
Speaker 5: this is kind of a hilarious story. You're gonna play
Speaker 5: just a little bit of it tomorrow. I mean, like
Speaker 5: you only really need a minute. But so Ezra Klein
Speaker 5: Lex Friedman is a really interesting dude, really nice guy
Speaker 5: who just wants to understand and wants everybody to hear
Speaker 5: everybody's point of view so we can have rational conversations
Speaker 5: everything like that. And he's ad on Elon and Trump
Speaker 5: and Biden and I mean, anybody you want from any stripe,
Speaker 5: and he angers lots of listeners when he has the
Speaker 5: other people on AnyWho.
Speaker 2: So he sets up ezraclined for The New York Times.
Speaker 5: He said, this is one of the leading voices of
Speaker 5: democrat thinking liberal thinking in America.
Speaker 2: And we're going to talk to him for the next
Speaker 2: couple hours.
Speaker 5: And his first question is, lay out, as you see it,
Speaker 5: the main tenants of your worldview, of the democratic worldview,
Speaker 5: of the liberal worldview, just so people on the other side,
Speaker 5: other side can understand it. And I was I was
Speaker 5: thinking to myself, I'm getting dressed yesterday afternoon, I'm listening
Speaker 5: to this, and I thought, Okay, I'm going to calmly
Speaker 5: because as re Klein's super smart guy writes for The
Speaker 5: New York Times.
Speaker 2: I'm going to calmly listen to it.
Speaker 5: I'm going to try to, like, really, you know, like
Speaker 5: the same debate, be able to state the other side's
Speaker 5: position to their you know, satisfaction.
Speaker 2: I'm going to really try to listen. I didn't make
Speaker 2: it fifteen seconds. I'm not kidding way. Do I play
Speaker 2: it for you, Mari? You feel the same way. I
Speaker 2: didn't really fifteen seconds before, I said, out loud in
Speaker 2: my bedroom, you gotta be effing kidding me. Fifteen seconds
Speaker 2: and do his answer? I take away as Jack as
Speaker 2: a partisan maniac out loud in my bedroom. You gotta
Speaker 2: be effing kidding me. I can't wait to play it tomorrow. Oh,
Speaker 2: I can't wait to discuss it anyway. We will finish
Speaker 2: strong next.
Speaker 12: Now, Miss Kerger, the American people want to know. Is
Speaker 12: Elmo now or has he ever been a member of
Speaker 12: the Communist.
Speaker 6: Party of the United States?
Speaker 11: Yes? Or no?
Speaker 2: Jeez to talk about cookie monster?
Speaker 12: Now, we know that Hell Secretary RFK Junior is coming
Speaker 12: out against fast food and baked goods. Are we silencing
Speaker 12: pro cookie voters?
Speaker 6: Yes or no? Miss Carger?
Speaker 2: The cookies are a sometime food. So while the Republicans
Speaker 2: are saying so called public broadcasting is a propaganda arm
Speaker 2: of the Democratic Party, the Democrats acted like it was
Speaker 2: a whole joke to even asked the question. A big
Speaker 2: joke to ask the question. There's no good faith, there none.
Speaker 2: How do you work with these people? How do you
Speaker 2: reach across the aisle? It's just insulting. And by the way,
Speaker 2: Elmo is red, I mean read the clues dead red.
Speaker 5: Huh, Katie got a question for you, Eric, you comment
Speaker 5: on this story from the Athletic in the New York Times.
Speaker 5: It's about sports braziers. A man walked on the moon
Speaker 5: a decade before a woman ran in a sports bra.
Speaker 5: The sports bra was invented in the mid nineteen seventies
Speaker 5: after women needed a quote, jockstrap for the boobs. It
Speaker 5: continues to revolutionize.
Speaker 2: Why do you need a metaphor just say all that's
Speaker 2: supportive while engaged in sports a jockstrap for the boobs?
Speaker 5: Because it's a man's centric word and we have to
Speaker 5: you have to explain everything.
Speaker 2: To me for work in a man's world. A man's
Speaker 2: world exactly, James Brown put it. That's right. Yeah.
Speaker 5: It continues to revolutionize sports and women's rights.
Speaker 2: Uh so you need me for what here?
Speaker 6: Jack?
Speaker 5: I just I was, well, I don't. I don't wear
Speaker 5: a sports brazier. I just wondered if they had perfected it.
Speaker 2: Does it seem like there needs to be more revolutionizing
Speaker 2: or is it it needs to be really.
Speaker 8: Neat many need to be revolutionized. I will tell you
Speaker 8: the best sports bra and I'm not just saying this
Speaker 8: because I'm part of the show. Is the armstrnging yetyone
Speaker 8: from the website.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the a G shop. My daughter swears by it.
Speaker 8: It doesn't have the pads that fall out when you
Speaker 8: stick it in the washer.
Speaker 2: You don't have to move anything. It's just good every time.
Speaker 2: It's a jockstrap for the boobs. As you said, Sure, Jack,
Speaker 2: that's what it is. Idiot weal, there's Jack Ganser's joke. Man,
Speaker 2: it's time because the show with Katie Green and Michael Langelobe,
Speaker 2: they are friends, They're like fandad.
Speaker 6: They're on our radio.
Speaker 1: So let's hear their final thoughts before.
Speaker 2: They have to go wow wow, hey, nice windowless white van.
Speaker 2: They're stabby the clown. Yeah, we try to sell ice
Speaker 2: cream to the kids. Here's your host for final thoughts,
Speaker 2: Joe getting you should have seen what Jack was doing
Speaker 2: in the studio, Man swaying back and forth with look,
Speaker 2: all right, let's get a final thought from everybody on
Speaker 2: the crew. Mike Lnders a little lad us off with
Speaker 2: all this boot talk of what Jack was doing. My
Speaker 2: mind has gone blank. So I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 10: People.
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, that easily distracted. Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman.
Speaker 8: As a final thought, Katie, we have a huge one
Speaker 8: More Thing podcast going on today.
Speaker 2: Oh great, which we've already got it planned out. Well,
Speaker 2: that's awesome. Soup or Jack a final thought? I want
Speaker 2: to take my time, Michael to tell your fantastic story.
Speaker 2: You're at the bank.
Speaker 5: The teller woman had a very large chest on display.
Speaker 2: She said, do you want big bucks? Do you want
Speaker 2: small bills for this? You're rash? Yeah? Do you want yeah,
Speaker 2: big bills with that? And I said yes, big boobs
Speaker 2: would be fine. Well played.
Speaker 6: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Also on tomorrow's show, a special shout out for a
Speaker 2: peeps in cal Unicornea. The state's insurance commissioner is a
Speaker 2: joke and a crook, and a crook and a joke.
Speaker 2: We'll tell you about it tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Do you need this broken into small bills, no big boobs?
Speaker 2: Be fine. I'm strong in Getty rabbit up.
Speaker 5: But other grueling four hour workday we will see tomorrow.
Speaker 2: God bless America. I'm strong and get you.
Speaker 12: Our message is clear, go away?
Speaker 2: Are you sure? Says yes.
Speaker 10: I have never said that, sir, Yes you did, and
Speaker 10: I was wondering you know what you felt about that.
Speaker 9: Folks are feeling and experiencing a range of emotions right now.
Speaker 2: Well. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty asked the same question
Speaker 2: of their listeners, and here's their response. I would like
Speaker 2: to be called Joseph, Josepha Villainois. Can I go with
Speaker 2: Jack the Great? Just call me Jackson Great. Bye bye
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty