1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong and. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: Gettie and he Armstrong and Yeddy. 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 3: The DC Court of Appeals is upheld a decision to 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 3: block the Trump administration from deporting Venezuelan gang member style 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: salvad Or under the Alien Enemies Act, ruling those powers 7 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: are limited to wartime, not organized crime, making it likely 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 3: this case goes to the Supreme Court. 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: This is not going to end well. 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 4: So we're getting them out in record numbers, and we're 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 4: having a lot of problems with the courts because the 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 4: courts want to pretend they're president. Then they're not president. 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 4: They didn't get eighty million votes. A. 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll get that argument. More on that in a second. 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 5: Let's hear the rest of this report. 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: Here are the judges that ruled against the Trump administration. 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: Care and Henderson appointed the Appeals Court by George H. W. Bush, 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: and Patricia Millett appointed by Barack Obama. Now Justin Walker 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: Trump appointing twenty twenty said quote. The government has also 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 3: shown that the district courts orders threatened irreparable harm and 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: delicate negotiations with foreign powers on matters concerning national security, 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: and that harm outweighs the plaintiff's desire to file a 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: suit in the District of Columbia. 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 5: So there's the politics of it in the law of it, right, 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 5: there are different stories. Really, I'm looking up at Fox 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 5: MS thirteen gang members deported, and then they're going through 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 5: some of these dudes and their violent histories. 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: And what about their rights? 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 5: Jack right, So Trump has managed to put people in 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 5: the position of wanting to stand up for violent gang 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 5: members when you've got the you know, just the flat 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 5: legal aspect of it being persons in the United States 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 5: have rights, and did these people's rights get violated before 34 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: they were shipped out? And that's you know, something we 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 5: got to make sure of. And then Trump's argument that 36 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 5: they didn't get eighty million votes, Well, we got different 37 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 5: branches and we have reason. We have a judicial system 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 5: and they're appointed and not elected to deal with It's 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 5: a balance thing, maybe, but he either knows that it doesn't. 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 5: But again, he's trying to win the politics part of it. 41 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: That's his main goal. 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: Worth mentioning that the entire idea of the Constitution is 44 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: protected to protect us from a you know, dictatorship of 45 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: the majority anyway, right, And you wouldn't want to end up. 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 5: With a you know, a democratic president snatching people off 47 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 5: the street for whatever reason under some whatever war powers 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 5: act from whatever very old statute to happen either. 49 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: But so where things where are things currently legally speaking? 50 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I judge stepped in and said you can't 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 5: deport anybody else. 52 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: Well, it was the u U Court of Appeals for 53 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: the d C Circuit, the most liberal circuit. Court two 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: to one on Wednesday denied the Justice Department's bid to 55 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: lift the block while it fights the lawsuit. Not shocking 56 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: at all. It'll keep going until it's in the Supreme Court. 57 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: But one thing that bothered me. The Wall Street Journal's 58 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: journalism is skewing further and further left. Is shocking. It's 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: like senior sister in a hoe house or your brother 60 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: dot dot dot fill in the blank ere if you 61 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: like to, here's a paragraph for air sentence for you. 62 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Two to one decisions. Abadu Badou challenged 63 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: President Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen 64 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: ninety eight to carry out the deportations. The law has 65 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: rarely been used. That's true. It is meant to be 66 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: invoked at times when the nation is at war. This 67 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: is a news story where they state as fact one 68 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: interpretation of the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight, 69 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: when there are absolutely anybody with a shred of an 70 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: intellectual honesty knows there are different ways to interpret the Act, 71 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: including an occursion by a hostile power not during a 72 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: declared state of war. You read this specific wording of 73 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: the act, it's a third act, like there's one and 74 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: only one interpret. 75 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 5: I wouldn't call that an interpretation. They just didn't even 76 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 5: read the next clause. Well, yeah, it's it's overt bias. 77 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 5: It's blatant bias. 78 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: Shame on. Let's name names here, Jack, It's more fun 79 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: that way, Jan Wolf, Michelle Hackman puts the hack bag 80 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: in Hackman and Victoria Albert a trio of ladies. 81 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 5: Now, whether or not this counts as a whatever incursion, 82 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 5: I don't know Court's going to decide on that. But uh, 83 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting that our DHS Secretary Christi 84 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 5: nom visited that Venezuelan prison yesterday. I don't know if 85 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 5: you saw that. Why she dressed so hot. I don't 86 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 5: quite get that. 87 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: But anyway, if I'm going to a giant El Salvadoran 88 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: prison full of the worst desperadoes on earth, I'm gonna 89 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: throw on maybe a little jacket over my shapely bot 90 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: in my tight, tight white top. But you know, I 91 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: just I wouldn't want to incite a horniness driven prison riot. 92 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: This is quite the prison. 93 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 5: Here's Peter Deucey describing the conditions there. 94 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 7: They spend twenty three and a half hours in those cells. 95 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 7: Each cell has seventy people. They eat, they bathe, they 96 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 7: use the bathroom in front of each other. The meals 97 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 7: are beans in pasta. The bunks are four levels high, 98 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 7: and on the bunks back there there are no sheets, 99 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 7: no mattresses, no pillows, and most of those people are 100 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 7: in there for life. Most will never see the out 101 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 7: of doors again. One man, she was introduced yesterday to 102 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 7: a man who is serving four hundred and sixty five 103 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 7: years for homicide and terrorism. 104 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: Because at twenty three and a half hours a day 105 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: in that room with all those people and your sheetless, pillowless, 106 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: spacked four high bed, we have better rights for chickens 107 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: in California than they have in Venezuela for the prisons. Yeah, 108 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: so you don't want to get shit there, right, Yeah. 109 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: And part of the. 110 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 5: Point from people who are worried about this is that 111 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 5: we grabbed some people, you know, the Venezuelan gang members hardcore. 112 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 5: I don't care if they get something back there, what 113 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 5: do I care? 114 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: But if you grabbed somebody, and there are examples out 115 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: there that I don't know if they're true or not, 116 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: but the New York Times and pr and various people, Uh, 117 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: you know, you grabbed some guy who's not in a 118 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 2: gang at all, you miss you misinterpreted his tattoo. 119 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 5: He's just a regular dude here from Venezuela. He's here illegally, 120 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 5: but he's not a gang member and he shouldn't be 121 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 5: thrown in that prison. 122 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. This tattoo is my favorite soccer team. I'm please 123 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: let me out of here now. 124 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 5: I don't know if that happened or not, but that 125 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 5: need is getting nailed down too, and obviously that would 126 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: be horrific. 127 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful example of what we're always talking about. If 128 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: you don't want the other side to exercise a power 129 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: in way that you find horrifying, well then we can't either. 130 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: But it remains to be seen whether those accusations are true. 131 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: Would NPR lie to us Jack more than that coming 132 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: up at the bottom of the hour, just horrific and 133 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: almost hilarious lying by the current head of NPR to 134 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: Congress yesterday. 135 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 5: Well, our friend Tim Sanderfer's been tweeting out any and 136 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 5: all of those stories of people allegedly not gang members 137 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 5: or even really bad people who've got sent to that 138 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 5: really bad prison, and he's concerned about due process. I 139 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 5: don't want due process violated either, So let's get this 140 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 5: all figured out and nailed down. Part of the point 141 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 5: of Christy Nome going and tour in that prison, though, 142 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 5: and then having all that information come out about how 143 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 5: horrible that is is to have people who are here 144 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 5: illegally think maybe I had to self deport. Maybe I 145 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 5: ought to go back on my own and just go 146 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 5: back to living my life in Venezuela so I don't 147 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 5: end up getting snatched off the street and set to 148 00:07:59,400 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 5: that prison. 149 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: I have a chance to say, hey, I'm not an 150 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: Emma's thirty. Well she said as much. Why don't we 151 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: go ahead and run clip sixty five. This is the 152 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: secretary yourself want everybody. 153 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: To know if you come to our country illegally, this 154 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: is one of the consequences you could face. First of all, 155 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: do not come to our country illegally. You will be 156 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: removed and you will be prosecuted. But no that this 157 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that 158 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: we will use if you commit crimes against the American people. 159 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought it was plenty when Biden 160 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: just said, oh yeah, I was going to say, that's 161 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: so let in millions and millions of people. That's the 162 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: only way don't works, whether you're a parent or copper, 163 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: whatever you are, is if there's actual evidence of a 164 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: repercussion for ignoring what you're saying. As my old bandmate 165 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: Bob used to put it, Bob was one of the 166 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: most sad and depressed individuals I've ever met in my life. Wow, 167 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: I dealt with public aid. He was a terrific guitar player, awesome, 168 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: but he dealt with public aid in Champagne or Banna, Illinois. 169 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: I can't remember what's the name of the county, it 170 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. But he dealt with people all day long 171 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: who were on welfare and was trying to help them. 172 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: Not beyond welfare manage their lives, become productive citizens the 173 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 2: rest of it. And if you want soul crushing work, 174 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 2: that's it. I got a family member doing that, and 175 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,119 Speaker 2: I'll be interested how long she can stay positive interacting 176 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: with that crowd. If you're under the illusion that everybody's 177 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: trying their best and it's only the system holding them down, 178 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: spend a couple of weeks doing that. Anyway, it's old depressive. 179 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: Bob used to say, Joe, an order that doesn't include 180 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: a sanction is merely a suggestion. Yeah, so that. 181 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you stand in front of one of those 182 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 5: prison cells where seventy people are stacked for deep poop 183 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 5: it in front of each other, your don't has more 184 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 5: meaning than if you're doing it from the oval office, 185 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 5: and so far you haven't booted out a single human being. 186 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I like how from Peter Doocey to the 187 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal they make a big h and to you, sarh, 188 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: they make a big deal of the fact that you 189 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: go to the bathroom in front of each other. Some 190 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: of the Marines they seem to be fine. You get 191 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: over it. 192 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 5: That I would not enjoy it at all, But that 193 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 5: wouldn't be shortly after I'm in that cell. That wouldn't 194 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 5: be a high priority of my worries. No, my worry 195 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 5: would be I'm going to be somebody's sexual release sweetheart, sweetheart, 196 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 5: or get your head caved in? 197 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 6: Right? 198 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: Given the choice, you know what? Can I borrow some lipstick? 199 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 5: Can you imagine how real politicket is in one of 200 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 5: those cells where you got to figure out, Okay, I 201 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 5: got a band together with some sort of group. I 202 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 5: can't be on my own? Which group do I band with? 203 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 5: Who's in charge? What's like American prisons too? To a 204 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 5: large extent, Yeah, but this would be this would happen 205 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 5: so fast. Well, and if you don't speak Spanish, good 206 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 5: luck to you, ombre. Can you imagine saying excuse me, 207 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 5: excuse me, I can tell your mad Can you translate 208 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: that for me normal English? You got your Google translated appa? 209 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: Oh no, you don't me meo no, no, sodomeo boy 210 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: not helping, no, not helping more on the ways to 211 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: hear anyway? Oh and two. 212 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: Armstrong hetty jacksmin Crockett claimed her hot wheels remark about 213 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,479 Speaker 3: Governor Abbott wasn't. 214 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 2: About his wheelchair. Yeah, and when we call her a 215 00:11:52,000 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: lousy ho. We're referring to her skills as a gardener. Wait, wow, 216 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: that was a career ender three years ago. 217 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 8: I love it. As a woman, I love it. She sucks, 218 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 8: so she made it. 219 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: Do we have any evidence whatsoever that she is a 220 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: sex worker exchanges? 221 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 5: Well, he didn't call her pleasures for cash or other 222 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 5: items of worth. 223 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 8: He didn't call her a sex worker. Is that when 224 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 8: we call her a wher, we're talking about your poor 225 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 8: gardening skills. 226 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 2: And that's troubled effort at humor. 227 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 8: That's because of what she said about Governor Abbit. 228 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, said calling Governor hot wheels. Wasn't about the 229 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: fact that he's in a wheelchair. Was about his using 230 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: buses to deport illegals from Texas. No, there's her on 231 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: the record calling him that years before the buses started. 232 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: She is a piece of gotabie. I don't know. 233 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 5: Maybe I'm just to the Maybe it's the air I 234 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 5: grew up, and I'm not comfortable with calling a woman 235 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 5: a hoe. 236 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: You're making that giving the pathetic fire. Yeah, just stop it. Really, 237 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: a woman of color would have gotten you fired three 238 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: years ago. Make so you're saying it's just my age, 239 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: it's become. 240 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 5: It's like the way huh, I said, that's it just 241 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 5: because she's a woman of color who cares. 242 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: We're all equal. 243 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 8: Anybody can be a hope. 244 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: Because times change and I don't always like true don 245 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: every little girl can dream of that. Yes, right, I'm big. 246 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 5: Yes, times change, and I don't like the way times 247 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 5: change off. And since we're headed one way toward courser. 248 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 5: But in terms of being in the entertainment industry, I 249 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 5: have to have an idea of what is acceptable and 250 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 5: what's not and for the sense purposes of humor. Like 251 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 5: when I was a kid, my parents wouldn't allow you 252 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 5: to say anything sucks. 253 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: Oh it's unthinkable to say on the air. 254 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 5: No, well, I wasn't allowed to say it in our house, 255 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 5: and then I wouldn't say it on the air. Now 256 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 5: everybody says it. I mean, it's just a hey, this sucks. 257 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just an expression of. 258 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: I don't like this. 259 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 5: It doesn't So if hoe has become that as like 260 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 5: an insult, because I know for my son and his friends, 261 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 5: it's a pretty common thing to throw around. 262 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 8: I just bought a hat that says, my dog thinks 263 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 8: you're a hoe. 264 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll adjust my sales accordingly, Yeah, get a really 265 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: funny hat. 266 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 8: It really is worth every site. 267 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: Do you have something to add to that, Michael No, So, 268 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: I hope you already bought your ninja sword in England 269 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: if you were planning to. 270 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 5: Because they've outlawed them. You can no longer buy a 271 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: ninja sword in England. According to care Starmer, the Prime Minister, 272 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 5: knife crime is at at epidemic levels in Great Britain 273 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 5: right now. Interesting. I wonder if that's a cultural immigration thing. Anyway, 274 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 5: they're cracking down. You can't really hardly get guns in 275 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 5: England like you can here, so if you want to 276 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 5: hurt somebody, you gotta use some elth Ninja swords will 277 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 5: be banned as part of a purge on thugs owning 278 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 5: dangerous knives. The labor leader said. He told the son 279 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 5: that people of Britain are horrified at how easy it 280 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 5: is for you to buy a lethal blade of some 281 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 5: sort online. So they're cracking down on machetes, ninja swords, 282 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: and zombie knives particularly. 283 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what a zk is. Never come across 284 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: them a zombie knife is either. I'm not sure that's 285 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: the right approach to uh, squashing crime Britain. You know, weenies, 286 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: zombie knife is like a dagger. 287 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 8: It's just a straight edge dagger, like if you're running 288 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 8: into a crowd of zombies. 289 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: You just you know. 290 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 5: I don't quite get the sure everybody knows that I 291 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 5: don't quite get knife flaws in general. I carry a 292 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 5: knife all the time. I carry a knife all the time, 293 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 5: and I'm very aware of various city knife laws, but 294 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: they're all stupid. Like you know, I traveled between towns 295 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 5: where they two and a half inch blade's okay, but 296 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 5: a two and a quarter inch blades not okay. Then 297 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 5: you go to the next down order a three inch blades. 298 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 5: I could kill you with any of them if I 299 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 5: was a nutcase and wanted to the idea that that 300 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 5: tiny separation in length makes any differences nonsensical. 301 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 8: I went through TSA on accident with a knife once. 302 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 8: That was a lot of fun. 303 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, where'd you have it? 304 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 8: I was in my purse and I was going straight 305 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 8: from the morning show to the airport to fly to 306 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 8: Southern California. 307 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: And who are you? Opened a stab? Why did you 308 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: have a knife? Do you carry an eye? Close that information? 309 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 5: Do you carry a knife like is for self protection 310 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 5: or whatever all every day. Yeah, I have a knife 311 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 5: every day too. My mind's somewhat self protection, but mostly 312 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 5: it just comes in handy all the time, uh, opening 313 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 5: a package or whatever. 314 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: I use it almost every day. But when I'm walking 315 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: down the street and there's some crazy homeless lunatic, I 316 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: always tap my pocket. Yeah, I got my knife with me. 317 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 8: Yep, oh, he goes into my hand. 318 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: Well, as you know, I've had several corkscrews confiscated by 319 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: the TSA, because you know, if you can get somebody 320 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: to hold still, you can just screw that thing right 321 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: in there and make your pop a noise? 322 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 6: Jack, would you? 323 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: Out comes their eye just like that. So they can't 324 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: have me with that on an airliner, clearly. So yeah, 325 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: I've lost like four corkscrews through the air. 326 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 5: You're a big numbchuck guy too. Oh yeah, practice constantly. 327 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 5: If you haven't heard the leader of NPR grilled by Congress. 328 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: Yet, this is something I hope you can stay doing. Great, 329 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: Armstrong and getty. 330 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 9: Perhaps for our most tricky disagreements, seeking the truth and 331 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 9: seeking to convince others of the truth might not be 332 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 9: the right place to start. In fact, a reverence for 333 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 9: the truth might be a distraction that's getting in the 334 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 9: way of finding common ground and getting things done. 335 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 5: That's a lady that runs NPR. I remember when she 336 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 5: got named the new top Marxist NPR. That clip came 337 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 5: out as an you know, as a warning to a 338 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 5: lot of us that this is what she believes about 339 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 5: the truth. 340 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: That's some wacky thinking right there. I would say, yeah, 341 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: as I said earlier, this woman is ilsa she wolf 342 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: of the SS. She is Stalin's unholy knife wielding mistress. 343 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: She is absolutely evil. And I want to share with 344 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: you a clip from James Lindsay, not a clip, but 345 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: a quote. He pointed out, Marxists just lie. They lie 346 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: so overtly and blatantly that people begin to question their 347 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: own perceptions. It works because no one expects another person 348 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: to lie so overtly. They don't look at conversation as 349 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: a way to reach the truth. They use it to 350 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: manipulate you. So you are going to hear this attractive 351 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: youngish woman lie and lie and lie with a smile 352 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 2: on her face and her chin up. You're not nuts, 353 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: she is well If Representative Brandon gil took a turn 354 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: questioning or go ahead, Jack, are you going to say something? 355 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 5: I was just gonna say that that whole thing about 356 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 5: the truth is obviously once you go down that road 357 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 5: of the truth's getting in the way. Okay, Now what 358 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 5: version of stories are we going to use? And who 359 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 5: determines that? And you feel like you should well, like 360 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 5: you know what, every. 361 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: Conversation ends roughly in the same place when you're talking 362 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: about Marxism, as Orwell warned us. If your north star 363 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 2: is not truth, for instance, it's what the party says, 364 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: they can take you anywhere, absolutely anywhere, anyway. Brandon Gill, 365 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: whose act I was not really familiar with, took the 366 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 2: lead in questioning her. This is a masterclass in how 367 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: these congressional hearings ought to go. 368 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 6: Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy? 369 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 10: I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier, 370 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 10: I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the 371 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 10: last half decade. 372 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 6: It has evolved. Why did you tweet that? 373 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 10: I don't recall the exact context, sir, so I wouldn't 374 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 10: be able to say. 375 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 6: Okay, do you believe that America believes in black plunder 376 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 6: and white democracy? 377 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 10: I don't believe that, sir. 378 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 6: You tweet it bad. It's reference to a book you 379 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 6: were reading at the time, apparently, The Case for Reparations. 380 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: I don't think i've ever read that book, sir. 381 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 6: You tweeted about it. You said you took a day 382 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 6: off to fully read The Case for Reparations. You put 383 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 6: that on Twitter in January twenty twenty. 384 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 10: I apologies. I don't recall that. I did. No doubt 385 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 10: that your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall. 386 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 5: Okay, man, my memory is bad, but there's not a chance. 387 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 5: I read a long nonfiction book that moves me to 388 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 5: the point of tweeting about it and taking the day off, 389 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 5: but I don't remember. 390 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: I don't remember reading that. Or then when you're asked, 391 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: well you said all this stuff, Well, I've had a 392 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: change in my transition to my thinking or evolution whatever. 393 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: She said, Yeah, in what way and for what reasons? 394 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 2: What was it specifically that was screwed up with the 395 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: way you're thinking? She doesn't get there, does she? There's more? 396 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 6: Do you believe that white people and inherently feel superior 397 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 6: to other races? I do not. Don't you tweeted something 398 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 6: to that effect you said I grew up feeling superior. Ha, 399 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 6: how wide of me. Why did you tweet that? 400 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 10: I think I was probably reflecting on what it was 401 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 10: to be to grow up in an environment where I 402 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 10: had lots of advantages. 403 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 6: It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior. 404 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 10: I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir. I 405 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 10: was just reflecting on my own experiences. 406 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 6: Do you think that white people should pay reparations? 407 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 10: I have never said that, sir. 408 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 6: Yes you did. You said it in January of twenty twenty. 409 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 6: You tweeted, yes, the North, yes, all of us, Yes, America, Yes, 410 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 6: our original collective sin and unpaid debt. Yes, reparations, yes 411 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 6: on this day. 412 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 10: I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir. 413 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 6: What kind of reparations was it a reference to. 414 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 10: I think it was just a reference to the idea 415 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 10: that we all owe much to the people who came 416 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 10: before us. 417 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 6: That's a bizarre way to what you tweeted. Okay, how 418 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 6: how many how much reparations have you personally paid, sir? 419 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 10: I don't believe that I've ever paid reparations. 420 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 6: Okay, just for everybody else. I'm not asking anyone to 421 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 6: be what you're suggesting. 422 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 5: So that was obviously a very interesting exchange. And I 423 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 5: didn't mean money when I said reparations. Okay, Well, that's 424 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: what everybody means when they say it. Sondy, you covered 425 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 5: you in the book you read and recommended, and I 426 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 5: know how much NPR covered California's efforts to get reparations. 427 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 2: And that's all about money, sou. 428 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 5: Anyway, obviously, lie there one interesting thing about that though. 429 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 5: I did some reading her old tweets last night, and 430 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 5: about that book she's referencing. It's, uh, she's from the 431 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 5: Northeast and is talking about various states in the Northeast 432 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 5: and how they benefited from slavery but hit it better 433 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 5: and uh and in ways beyond what I'd even ever 434 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 5: read before. And that is something the North gets away with, 435 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 5: kind of a moral superiority over the South and their 436 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 5: slaves and the cotton plantations everything like that. 437 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 9: Yeah. 438 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: Well, maybe a lot of your just regular working people, 439 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 2: but there was a lot of rich people in the 440 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: North benefiting from slavery and perfectly okay with it. Yeah, 441 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. I wasn't there at the time, 442 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: so I don't feel any guilt, but it's a good 443 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 2: historical point. Yeah. So she lies, and she lies and 444 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: she lies. She's she's very much like you have to 445 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: think of Catherine Mayer mar or she pronounces her name, 446 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: that could be. I suppose you got to think of 447 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: her as like a Soviet agent who's now being asked, 448 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: are you a Soviet agent? She's saying no. Do you 449 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: believe in Communism? Absolutely not. Do you love America? Of 450 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: course I do. Yes. She's just lying. She's lying and 451 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: lying in lining. 452 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 5: So you think she believes in Marxism to the extent 453 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 5: that she thinks, Wow, I have really infiltrated a major 454 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 5: media center, and I have an opportunity to sway the 455 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 5: American public toward my belief system of tearing down the 456 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: evil capitalist blah blah blah. 457 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, white supremacist blabla. She's had such a track 458 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: record of public statements, and again they're not like one 459 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: offs after a couple of cosmotinis or something like that. 460 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 2: I mean, she's a learned woman who has spoken at 461 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 2: length and in detail about what she believes. She is 462 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: not one of the well meaning soft heads of a 463 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: Davis California or a Madison Wisconsin, who's been convinced that, oh, 464 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: this worldview is how to be a good person, so 465 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: I'm going to go along with it. No, she's she 466 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: knows precisely what she's doing. 467 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 5: She's in the extreme couple of percent of Americans in 468 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 5: terms of her politics, and she runs NPR, which is 469 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 5: on every town in America, no matter how tiny you are. 470 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: I know this because I'm from a lot of tiny towns. 471 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 5: No matter how tiny you are, you got a little 472 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 5: NPR station at least, and they're broadcast in their crap 473 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 5: to everybody. 474 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: And I listen to NPR every day and there's a 475 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: lot of really really really really good. 476 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: Long form journalism on there, but there's also just a 477 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 5: ton of extreme nut job stuff. 478 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 2: Not according to ms Meyer Mauer, as we'll get to 479 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: in a moment or two, is Brandon gil Dunn. No, 480 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: he is not. One more clip. 481 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 6: Do you believe that looting is morally wrong? 482 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 10: I believe that looting is illegal, and I refer to 483 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 10: it as counterproductive. I think it should be prosecuted. 484 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 6: Do you believe it's morally wrong though? 485 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: Of course? 486 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 6: Of course, then why did you refer to it as 487 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 6: counter productive? A very different, very different way to describe it. 488 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 10: It is both morally wrong and counterproductive, as well as being. 489 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 6: Tweeted, it's hard to be mad about protests in reference 490 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 6: to the BLM protests not prior oritizing the private property 491 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 6: of a system of oppression. You didn't condemn the looting, 492 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 6: you said that it was counter productive. NPR also promoted 493 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 6: a book called Indefensive Looting. Do you think that that's 494 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 6: an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars. 495 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 10: I'm unfamiliar with that book, sir, and I don't believe 496 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 10: that was at my tweeted that you read that book. 497 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 10: I don't believe that I did read that. 498 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I mean it's it's sporderline laughable. It really is. Wait, 499 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: I believe the looting is wrong. Should be a prosecuting 500 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: full extent in a law. Wait a minute, she's such 501 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: a liar. Oh boy, Oh Jim book, you tweeted that 502 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: you read it. Tell me what's going on? You promoted 503 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: it on your nationwide radio operation. How about Jim Jordan 504 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: roll up your sleeves, Jim, it's your shot next. 505 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 6: Buddy. 506 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: Seventy four is in PR biased Congressman. 507 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 10: I have never seen any instance of never of pro 508 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 10: political bias determining editorial decisions. 509 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 11: Now well, mister Berliner, in his story a couple last 510 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 11: year wrote, I've in the DC area editorial positions at NPR. 511 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: He said he found eighty. 512 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 11: Seven registered Democrats, zero Republicans. Mister Berliner, was he lying 513 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 11: when he wrote that. 514 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 10: I am not presuming such I just don't have We 515 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 10: don't track that information about our journalist. 516 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: Eighty seven to zero. 517 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 10: And you're not biased, Congressman. I do not believe we 518 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 10: are politically biased. No, we are a non partisan organization 519 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 10: on partisan organization. 520 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 2: That is something. Picture yourself saying that sort of thing 521 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: with a straight face. Does she not burst into flames 522 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: or at some point say I'm sorry, I can't keep 523 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 2: a straight face anymore. Of course we're biased. Oh my god, 524 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 2: I almost got through it. Marxists just lie. They lie 525 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: so overtly and blatantly that people begin to question their 526 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: own perception. 527 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 5: The only way you could do that is if you're 528 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 5: so committed to the I've got to tear down this 529 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 5: evil system. People are hurting, people are starving, Little kids 530 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 5: of color are being ruined by white supremacy. I've got 531 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 5: to lie. You almost have to do it so this 532 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 5: is PBS. Not that's exactly the same as NPR, but 533 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 5: same sort of thing. They are being grilled yesterday too, 534 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 5: and these figures were out. The PBS coverage of the 535 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 5: Republican Convention was seventy two percent negative. The PBS coverage 536 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 5: of the DNC convention was eighty eight percent positive, so 537 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 5: ninety positive versus three quarters negative. I've never seen any bias. 538 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 5: How do you again, how do you say that with 539 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 5: a straight face? You just trying to hold your ground. 540 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 5: You will not give an inch because the glorious revolution 541 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 5: is coming. Of course, Ultimately, will any of their funding 542 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 5: get cut? Will they be any different six months from 543 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 5: now than what I heard some of the crap I 544 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 5: heard this morning. 545 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: Probably not. I wonder about the funding. It could be that, 546 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: you know, the George Soroses of the world to step 547 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: up and supply, you know, to take care of that 548 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: deficit and funding. 549 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 5: Don't know, different worldviews. It's really really interesting. So I 550 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 5: got something good for tomorrow. I didn't want to do 551 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 5: it today since we had this and it had been 552 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 5: too much of the same flavor. But Ezra Kleine of 553 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 5: The New York Times was on Lex Friedman's podcast and 554 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: this is kind of a hilarious story. You're gonna play 555 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 5: just a little bit of it tomorrow. I mean, like 556 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 5: you only really need a minute. But so Ezra Klein 557 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 5: Lex Friedman is a really interesting dude, really nice guy 558 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 5: who just wants to understand and wants everybody to hear 559 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 5: everybody's point of view so we can have rational conversations 560 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 5: everything like that. And he's ad on Elon and Trump 561 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 5: and Biden and I mean, anybody you want from any stripe, 562 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 5: and he angers lots of listeners when he has the 563 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 5: other people on AnyWho. 564 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: So he sets up ezraclined for The New York Times. 565 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 5: He said, this is one of the leading voices of 566 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 5: democrat thinking liberal thinking in America. 567 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: And we're going to talk to him for the next 568 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: couple hours. 569 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 5: And his first question is, lay out, as you see it, 570 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 5: the main tenants of your worldview, of the democratic worldview, 571 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 5: of the liberal worldview, just so people on the other side, 572 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 5: other side can understand it. And I was I was 573 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 5: thinking to myself, I'm getting dressed yesterday afternoon, I'm listening 574 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 5: to this, and I thought, Okay, I'm going to calmly 575 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 5: because as re Klein's super smart guy writes for The 576 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 5: New York Times. 577 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to calmly listen to it. 578 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 5: I'm going to try to, like, really, you know, like 579 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 5: the same debate, be able to state the other side's 580 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 5: position to their you know, satisfaction. 581 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to really try to listen. I didn't make 582 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: it fifteen seconds. I'm not kidding way. Do I play 583 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: it for you, Mari? You feel the same way. I 584 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: didn't really fifteen seconds before, I said, out loud in 585 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: my bedroom, you gotta be effing kidding me. Fifteen seconds 586 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: and do his answer? I take away as Jack as 587 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: a partisan maniac out loud in my bedroom. You gotta 588 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: be effing kidding me. I can't wait to play it tomorrow. Oh, 589 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: I can't wait to discuss it anyway. We will finish 590 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: strong next. 591 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 12: Now, Miss Kerger, the American people want to know. Is 592 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 12: Elmo now or has he ever been a member of 593 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 12: the Communist. 594 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 6: Party of the United States? 595 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 11: Yes? Or no? 596 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: Jeez to talk about cookie monster? 597 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 12: Now, we know that Hell Secretary RFK Junior is coming 598 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 12: out against fast food and baked goods. Are we silencing 599 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 12: pro cookie voters? 600 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 6: Yes or no? Miss Carger? 601 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: The cookies are a sometime food. So while the Republicans 602 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: are saying so called public broadcasting is a propaganda arm 603 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: of the Democratic Party, the Democrats acted like it was 604 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: a whole joke to even asked the question. A big 605 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: joke to ask the question. There's no good faith, there none. 606 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: How do you work with these people? How do you 607 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: reach across the aisle? It's just insulting. And by the way, 608 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: Elmo is red, I mean read the clues dead red. 609 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 5: Huh, Katie got a question for you, Eric, you comment 610 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 5: on this story from the Athletic in the New York Times. 611 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 5: It's about sports braziers. A man walked on the moon 612 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 5: a decade before a woman ran in a sports bra. 613 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 5: The sports bra was invented in the mid nineteen seventies 614 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 5: after women needed a quote, jockstrap for the boobs. It 615 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 5: continues to revolutionize. 616 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: Why do you need a metaphor just say all that's 617 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: supportive while engaged in sports a jockstrap for the boobs? 618 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 5: Because it's a man's centric word and we have to 619 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 5: you have to explain everything. 620 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: To me for work in a man's world. A man's 621 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: world exactly, James Brown put it. That's right. Yeah. 622 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 5: It continues to revolutionize sports and women's rights. 623 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: Uh so you need me for what here? 624 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 6: Jack? 625 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 5: I just I was, well, I don't. I don't wear 626 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 5: a sports brazier. I just wondered if they had perfected it. 627 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: Does it seem like there needs to be more revolutionizing 628 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: or is it it needs to be really. 629 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 8: Neat many need to be revolutionized. I will tell you 630 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 8: the best sports bra and I'm not just saying this 631 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 8: because I'm part of the show. Is the armstrnging yetyone 632 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 8: from the website. 633 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the a G shop. My daughter swears by it. 634 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 8: It doesn't have the pads that fall out when you 635 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 8: stick it in the washer. 636 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: You don't have to move anything. It's just good every time. 637 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: It's a jockstrap for the boobs. As you said, Sure, Jack, 638 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: that's what it is. Idiot weal, there's Jack Ganser's joke. Man, 639 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: it's time because the show with Katie Green and Michael Langelobe, 640 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: they are friends, They're like fandad. 641 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 6: They're on our radio. 642 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: So let's hear their final thoughts before. 643 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: They have to go wow wow, hey, nice windowless white van. 644 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: They're stabby the clown. Yeah, we try to sell ice 645 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: cream to the kids. Here's your host for final thoughts, 646 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: Joe getting you should have seen what Jack was doing 647 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: in the studio, Man swaying back and forth with look, 648 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 2: all right, let's get a final thought from everybody on 649 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: the crew. Mike Lnders a little lad us off with 650 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: all this boot talk of what Jack was doing. My 651 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: mind has gone blank. So I'll talk to you later. 652 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 10: People. 653 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, that easily distracted. Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman. 654 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 8: As a final thought, Katie, we have a huge one 655 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 8: More Thing podcast going on today. 656 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: Oh great, which we've already got it planned out. Well, 657 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: that's awesome. Soup or Jack a final thought? I want 658 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 2: to take my time, Michael to tell your fantastic story. 659 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: You're at the bank. 660 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 5: The teller woman had a very large chest on display. 661 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: She said, do you want big bucks? Do you want 662 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: small bills for this? You're rash? Yeah? Do you want yeah, 663 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: big bills with that? And I said yes, big boobs 664 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: would be fine. Well played. 665 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 6: Oh my god. 666 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: Also on tomorrow's show, a special shout out for a 667 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: peeps in cal Unicornea. The state's insurance commissioner is a 668 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: joke and a crook, and a crook and a joke. 669 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: We'll tell you about it tomorrow. 670 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 5: Do you need this broken into small bills, no big boobs? 671 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: Be fine. I'm strong in Getty rabbit up. 672 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 5: But other grueling four hour workday we will see tomorrow. 673 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: God bless America. I'm strong and get you. 674 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 12: Our message is clear, go away? 675 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: Are you sure? Says yes. 676 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 10: I have never said that, sir, Yes you did, and 677 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 10: I was wondering you know what you felt about that. 678 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 9: Folks are feeling and experiencing a range of emotions right now. 679 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: Well. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty asked the same question 680 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: of their listeners, and here's their response. I would like 681 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: to be called Joseph, Josepha Villainois. Can I go with 682 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: Jack the Great? Just call me Jackson Great. Bye bye 683 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty