1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: It's the John Cobelt Show and we're on every day 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: from one until four three hours. 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: It is packed. 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: It's overflowing today and then after four o'clock. If you 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: miss anything, you go to the iHeart app for John 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: Cobelt Show on demand. It's the podcast. It's the same 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: as the radio show. It contains everything, all the all 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: the material. And let me tell you, today's one of 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: those days you ought to take in all three hours 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 2: if you if you possibly can. We've got something that 13 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: just broke a few minutes ago, and I haven't even 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: heard this audio yet. For seventeen years, California has been 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: trying to build high speed rail. It is one of 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: the biggest scandals, one of the biggest travesties, one of 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: the most expensive ripoffs ever. And for seventeen years I've 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: been saying, you can't have a project go on that long, 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: spend that much money, ten to fifteen billion dollars, and 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: not have anything to show for it. It's got to 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: be a crime. There's got to be crimes going on here. 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: People have been looting money from high speed rail for 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: seventeen years and getting away with it. There aren't even 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: records on how a lot of the money was spin 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: So now Trump just a few minutes ago said he 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: wants an investigation. Let's play this audience and see what 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: it's about. 28 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: And one of the things I want to investigate rapidly 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 3: because I've never seen anything to this extent. The train 30 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: that's being built between Los Angeles and San Francisco is 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: the worst managed project I think I've ever seen, and 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: I've seen some of the worst. Billions and billions, hundreds 33 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: of billions of dollars over budget. In fact, I read 34 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: where you could take every single person that was going 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: to go on the train and get the finest limousine 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: service in the world and take them back and forth 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: with limousines, and you'd have hundreds of billions of dollars 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: left over. It is the worst thing, and we're going 39 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: to start an investigation in that because it's not possible. 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: I built for a living, and i'd built on time, 41 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: on budget. It's impossible that something could cost that much. 42 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: And now it's not even going to San Francisco, and 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: it's not going to Los Angeles. It's they made it 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: much shorter, so now it's at little places way away 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: from San Francisco and way away from Los Angeles. No, 46 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: we're going to start a big investigation on that because 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like it. Nobody has ever seen 48 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: anything like it. The worst overruns that there have ever 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 3: been in the history of our country. And it wasn't 50 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: even necessary. I would have said, you don't buy it, 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: you take an airplane. Of course you're two dollars. Of course, 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: he's nothing. You take an airplane. But this got started, 53 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: and if you have to drive, you can drive. They 54 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: have hundreds of billions of dollars of cost overruns and 55 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: it's not even the same project. It's much shorter, it's 56 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: way outside of San France, so it's going way outside 57 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: of Los Angeles. 58 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: So we're going to be looking into this. 59 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: Is that dog is going to investigate the trend? No, 60 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: I'm doing that myself. 61 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in charge of the Justice Department. He ought 62 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 2: to get Justice Department investigators on this. I'm sure there's 63 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: got to be federal crimes committed. They've certainly used federal money, 64 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: so it's under his jurisdiction. This is not just about 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: saving money that reporter was piping up. Is this a 66 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: DOGE thing. 67 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: It's not. 68 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: Doge is an advisory board. Basically, they don't have any 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: direct power. They can't cut any spending, they can't fire people. 70 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: It's all Trump. 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: Trump is ultimately responsible for all the decisions, whether you 72 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: like it or not. Musk and his crowd is just 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: doing the analysis and doing the advice. You don't have 74 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: to be elon Musk. You don't have to have a 75 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: two hundred IQ to figure this thing out. This passed 76 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight. They spent anywhere from ten 77 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: billion dollars already, and he's right. The projection of spending 78 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: is supposed to be two hundred billion dollars two hundred billion, 79 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: and they're never going to get there what they have now. 80 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: You know, you always have to go back to the beginning. 81 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: People forget, people don't keep track, and it's understandable everybody's 82 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: got their own life, but criminals in politics, criminals in government, 83 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: bank on the fact that you're going to forget, you're 84 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: not going to keep track of this, and you don't 85 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: want to deal with too many numbers. Back in two 86 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: thousand and eight, the original deal was they would spend 87 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: thirty three billion dollars three to three, and we were 88 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: going to get a high speed rail track starting Sacramento 89 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: and then to San Francisco and then to Los Angeles 90 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: and down to Anaheim and San Diego, all of that, 91 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: Sacramento to San Diego thirty three billion dollars and it 92 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: was supposed to be built by now. And what do 93 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: we have after seventeen years. There is no track going anywhere. 94 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: And now they're working on a little sliver to run 95 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: from they say Bakersfield to Merced, which is an absurdity. 96 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: There is no market to go from Bakersfield to Mercede none. 97 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: In fact, I don't even think it's it's those two cities. 98 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: It's two outlying towns. If I remember correctly, it's it's 99 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 2: it's Madera, outside of outside of Merced. And then what's 100 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: the town. There's a little town next to Bakersfield. It's 101 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: slipping my memory right now, but that's really where the 102 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: train is going to go from beginning to end, not 103 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: even Bakersfield to Merced. And it's supposed to be a 104 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: minimum LA to San Francisco, if not San Diego to Sacramento. 105 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: Where did the billions of dollars go. 106 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: Well, they did several audits a few years ago, and 107 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: I remember clearly one of the audits, and of course 108 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: it was news for about half a day. 109 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: And then everybody moved on. 110 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: The audit findings said that there was no paperwork, no 111 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: written record of where a lot of the money went. 112 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: They can't tell you where the tax money went, who 113 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: received the money. 114 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Nothing. 115 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: Well, once I heard that, then it confirmed to me. 116 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: I think, to any reasonable person, it's like, oh, so 117 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: it really is a criminal operation. The money disappeared. Now 118 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: I can't accuse specific people because I don't have proof 119 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: who specifically stole it. But I would look at everybody 120 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: with a title that ran high speed rail over the 121 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: last seventeen years, because they must know where the money went. 122 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: Somebody had to sign those checks. How could you have 123 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: no paperwork, no paperwork at all, and there's no need 124 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: for the damn thing. 125 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: Anyway. 126 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: You can get a flight to San Francisco for sixty bucks. 127 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: I know. 128 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: I had two sons go to school in the Bay Area. 129 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: We took a lot of trips up to San Francisco 130 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: and back, all cleaning back, drove there and back many times. 131 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: You know, for it's about about five and a half 132 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: six hours. There was never, ever, ever, any need. It 133 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: was something that Schwarzenegger sold. What he was I don't 134 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: know what he was snorting, but he was on his 135 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: global warming high and he convinced all the buffoons in 136 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: this state that, oh, yeah, high speed rail, it's gonna 137 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: fight global warming, and oh the trains are gonna be 138 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: really cool. And Jerry Brown pushed this through and it's 139 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: been total nonsense. There was no need for it. They 140 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: made up numbers that you know, tens of millions of 141 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: people were gonna take. No, there's no very interest in this. 142 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: I have never heard a single person, not a single 143 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: person say to me it's like, wow, if I couldn't 144 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: we only had a train to San Francisco. There's I 145 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: think because we've taken so many trips up there in 146 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: my family. I think there's thirty two flights a day. 147 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's a couple every hour on just 148 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: about every airline. There's and and and they're relatively cheap, 149 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: unless you you know, order one at the very last minute, 150 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: it'll cost much. It was it's a scam, it's a crime, 151 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: it's a rip off. They have looted fifteen billion dollars. 152 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: Newsome supposedly was gonna cut it off, and then the 153 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: corrupt construction unions put them at a headlock, and. 154 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: He changed his. 155 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: And it's those construction unions that have been pushing it 156 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: in recent years. But there've got to be so many 157 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: people that if you did a real investigation, a lot 158 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: of face charges. 159 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: Just there's no way you could do this in the 160 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: private sector. 161 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: Any executives who carried on like this in the private 162 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: sector would be in prison. So I hope he means 163 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: what he says, because it is the worst project, the 164 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: biggest waste of money. How do you build nothing? For 165 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: seventeen years, they didn't even try to put up a 166 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 2: cover story, not even you do like some construction, you know, 167 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: at least lay down, you know, fifteen miles around, just 168 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: so there's video for the idiot newspeople to run to 169 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: make it look like there is something. What a terrible media, 170 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: by the way we have it in California for this 171 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: to go on seventeen years. There was one writer, Ralph 172 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: Vardibedian from the Los Angeles Times, while a knuckleheads on 173 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: the La Times EDITORI board kept pushing this garbage. He 174 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: wrote and explained a lot of the corruption that was 175 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: going on, a lot of the delays and nonsense. And 176 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: of course he's working for some other news site. 177 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 5: Now. 178 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 2: I think he's freelancing, because you know, they all times 179 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: lost interest in printing the truth. They just went on 180 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: their green propaganda kick. All right, we got more coming up. 181 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: What I want to tell Well, well, if we get 182 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: in more details on what Trump is talking about, we'll 183 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: tell you when we come back. I don't know if 184 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: you've ever been on the inside, been part of the 185 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: in crowd. 186 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: People who are. 187 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: On the inside of things, they get a lot of benefits. 188 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: And there's people in the Palisades who are rich, powerful, 189 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: connected to Hollywood, and they get their own private Zoom 190 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: calls with a guy like Steve Soboroff, who's supposed to 191 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: be overseeing the Palisades recovery. And Steve was on Zoom 192 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: the other night and he's telling these rich people things 193 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: that the rest of the public is not informed about. 194 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: You're gonna be fascinated by this. 195 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 196 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 6: six forty. 197 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever been on the inside. 198 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: I don't think Deborah and I have ever been on 199 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: the inside. We're just naturally on the outside. Are you 200 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: an insider? Time I can tell Summer we're we're not insiders. 201 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: Nobody nobody wants to tell us any secrets. Steve Steve 202 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 2: sober Off is Karen Bass's point man for the recovery. 203 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: She's not talking publicly because of the shame that she 204 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: carries around for running off to Africa while La burned. 205 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: So she puts Steve sober Off. And if you track 206 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: city politics, he's been around for decades. He helped build 207 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: the Staples Center, used to be a former city police commissioner. 208 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: He's a real estate developer. 209 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: He's got a. 210 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 2: Similar profile to Rick Caruso, about ten years older. And 211 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: I think he ran for mayor once. Like I said, 212 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: he was on the police commission. So you know he's 213 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: done all his civic duty and right now he's running 214 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: this recovery effort, trying to organize things. 215 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: So if you're on the. 216 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: Inside, if you're a Hollywood agent, you get on a 217 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: private zoom call with sober Off, and sober Off tells 218 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: you what to do with your property. A lot of 219 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: these guys were burned out or had their homes badly damaged. 220 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: None of this information is available to the rest of 221 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: the Palisades residents who are much less wealthy and much 222 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: less well connected. So here's what he told them, according 223 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: to the Free Beacon, which is a Washington based newspaper, 224 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: and the Free Beacon got a copy of the Zoom meeting, 225 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: so they had the audio recording, and Soberoff said, whether 226 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: you're broke or you're old, don't sell now, because in 227 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: one year we're going to be putting billions of dollars 228 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: in your neighborhood of improvements. You'll get triple what these 229 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: guys are offering you for now. Now he's telling wealthy 230 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:30,479 Speaker 2: people like executives and staff of three Hollywood talent agencies 231 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: William Morris CIA UTA United Talent Agency, which hosted the meeting. 232 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: Among them was the UTA vice chair, Jay Schures. Give 233 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: you an example, he represents Jake Tapper, the CNN anchor. 234 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: Another executive on the call was a Willie Morris partner, 235 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:56,119 Speaker 2: Richard Welts. His clients Tina fey Seth McFarlan and Ricky Gervais. 236 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: And so these guys got the inside. Oh pay don't 237 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: don't sell your place to somebody offering you pennies. Just 238 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: hold on because lots of money is being invested. You know, 239 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: the city, state, federal government is going to be bringing 240 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: in huge barrels of cash, billions of dollars. Now they 241 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: don't have a public meeting to tell people this. 242 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: Uh, you just had to be part of the in crowd. 243 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: So Broff also complained that half our labor could get 244 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: deported before the palisades are rebuilt, and that can make 245 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: things extremely expensive. 246 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: It's funny. 247 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: I wonder if he's ever added up the hundreds of 248 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: millions of dollars we've spent on a legal immigration. They 249 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: always talk about, oh, you know, if you if you 250 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: you don't have a legal immigration, the cost of the 251 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: labor is going to go away. 252 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: Prices are going to go up. 253 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: We spent a huge percentage of our tax money on 254 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: a legal immigration. I've never seen anybody compare the two, 255 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: how much we spend da Like, all the money we 256 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: spent to support illegal aliens doesn't count. It's only the 257 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: money that we're gonna spend on more expensive workers that's 258 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: real money, right. I don't think when you netted it 259 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: all out, we're saving very much. And he also told 260 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: he also told the rich guys, just because the DWP 261 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: says your water is safe, have somebody test it before 262 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: you move back in. And if they say drink water, 263 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: use bottled water. What they don't say is, and they're 264 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: starting to say it now, don't bathe your baby in 265 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: their water. Don't take a bath in the water, don't 266 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: take a shower, don't do your dishes, don't do laundry. 267 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: You don't want anything to do with that water until 268 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: it's deemed safe. And I would get an independent agency. 269 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: Maybe there's a kit at CBS that tells your water 270 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: a safe. In other words, don't trust the DWP. So 271 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: the entertainment executives get this free advice. Don't trust a DWP. 272 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: The water may be poisonous, don't feed it to your kids. 273 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: But everybody else, how would they know that? They don't 274 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: get a private zoom call from Steve sober Off. You're 275 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: supposed to drink the water and get poisoned and die. 276 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: I guess you're supposed to get the parasite. Drink the parasites. 277 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: Unless you're special and privileged and you work in the 278 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: entertainment industry as an agent, then we wouldn't want your 279 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: digestive system to be compromised by parasites or some other 280 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: toxic chemicals. You believe this, And later on he said, 281 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: I trust DWP, but when they say water is safe, 282 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: I would check every faucet well. In other words, he 283 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: doesn't believe the water is safe. But the rest of 284 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: us in that general area are still drinking the water. 285 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: So you got one of the top city officials that 286 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: Karen Bass is hired or has appointed to run the recovery, 287 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 2: and he's telling his buddies on the side, Hey, don't 288 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: don't go near the water. 289 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Well, where's genez. She's not drinking the lost equity. No, 290 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm not drinking the water. 291 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: No, I we we actually never drink the water, cress. 292 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: It tastes foul. But you know, there's some incidental times 293 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: you do. You do take in the water, you do 294 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: wash the dishes, you do brush your teeth. But what's 295 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: really Oh, I got to take a break. I'm gonna 296 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: finish this later in the hour. Later on, I'll do 297 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: part two of this, and I'm going to tell you 298 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: about the bust too, Yes, and the bust to know 299 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: because sober Off was shutting down any criticisms in this 300 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: Zoom meeting, and this. 301 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: Is the policy. 302 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: It looks like the whole city has, all the city 303 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: politicians and all the bureaucrats, they are never going to 304 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: talk anytime soon about all the things they did wrong. 305 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: They don't want any blame, no finger pointing, no second guessing, 306 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: no Monday Morning quarterbacking. They want to shut the conversation 307 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: down so that people lose their steam, lose their energy 308 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 2: over what happened. And sober Off is trying to enforce 309 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: that privately on these Zoom calls with the rich guys 310 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: in the entertainment industry. I'll tell you that coming up. 311 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: But later on when we return though, we're going to 312 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: have Alex Stone on from ABC News because Congress wants 313 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: to investigate why there were so many bad warnings going 314 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: out the night of the fire, false warnings in a 315 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: lot of cases, no warnings for people who were in 316 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: danger and died. Congress wants to sort this out. We'll 317 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: talk to Alex Stone coming up. 318 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 319 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 6: six forty. 320 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four and then 321 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand. 322 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: It's the podcast version same as the radio show. A 323 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: little bit after four o'clock. 324 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: It's posted, so if you miss anything, then you could 325 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: play the podcast all afternoon, all evening, all night into 326 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. Among all the disasters that we've been chronicling 327 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: for a month now, man, can you believe how many 328 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: things the government failed? And they don't want to talk 329 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: about it. Wait to hear the Steve sober Off quotes. 330 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you later. They're trying to shut 331 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: down all the criticism. They don't want anybody asking anything. 332 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: They're hoping all this goes away. Actually, I think a 333 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: lot of these people ought to go to jail. A 334 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: lot of people ought to go to jail in government, 335 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 2: people with the high speed rail fiasco, people in this 336 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: fire response. And one of the aspects is we pay 337 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: a lot of money for an emergency alerts system in 338 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: Los Angeles County, and as you know, a lot of 339 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 2: people got bogus alerts to evacuate when they were nowhere 340 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: near the fire. And then the people in the fire 341 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: zone and out to Dina, where they had quite an 342 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: enormous amount of damage and some deaths. Some of those 343 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: neighborhoods never got a warning to evacuate until seven nine 344 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: hours later, and now Congress wants to do an investigation. 345 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Alex Stone ABC News to 346 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: see what this is about. 347 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: Alex. 348 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: We're team members of Congress who are saying, all of 349 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: them from southern California are saying, all right, whether it 350 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 2: be La or you know, it could be anywhere in 351 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: the US or anywhere in the world, that we have 352 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: to understand how these wireless emergency alerts work. And if 353 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: they aren't working the way we think that they should, 354 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: then we got to get to the bottom of it, 355 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: because it didn't work during the wildfires that yeah, areas 356 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: about the Dina where people died, that they never got 357 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: them or got them heavily delayed many hours later. But 358 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: on the flip side of that, what this investigation is 359 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: really looking at, it's those erroneous ones that went out 360 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: to all ten million people in La County and some 361 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: in Orange County and some elsewhere saying that there was 362 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: a wildfire near them and they needed to get out immediately. 363 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: And then oops, no, never mind that that was sent 364 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: out by mistake and those people were fifty miles away 365 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: from the wildfires and they had no danger around them. 366 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: So this is being led by Congressman Robert Garcia, former mayor. 367 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: Of Long Beach. 368 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: He got it down in Long Beach saying there's a 369 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: wildfire near you get out, and he was like looking around, 370 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: going there's nothing around here. 371 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 4: But he says, we got to figure this out. 372 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 5: This was a state emergency where there was a clear 373 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 5: failure in our system to get the public the information 374 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 5: they needed. 375 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: And this really isn't just about La It could be anywhere. 376 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: They want to know why these cell phone alerts, you 377 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: know where the tone goes off and you get the 378 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 2: message why they didn't really work, and the erroneous ones 379 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: that he fears it's going to be like crying wolf 380 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: and the people will silence their alerts, which you can 381 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: do in the settings on your phone, and then you 382 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: won't get anything in the future, or ignore them just completely. 383 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: They come in, but you just look at them and 384 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: don't do what they say, or you know, you tell 385 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: people forty fifty miles away from the disaster that they've 386 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: got to go at a time when it was windy 387 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: and dry, that they could freak out and think that 388 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 2: there's another wildfire near them. I know living in Santa 389 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: Clarita that we and our neighbors we thought there was 390 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: something there when we got the alert, because there were 391 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: wildfires in the general area, and you think, where is it, 392 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: you know, waking up in the middle of the night, 393 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: thinking you got to go that somebody could get in 394 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: their car and crash their car or have an accident, 395 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: panicking trying to get out. If you remember when this 396 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: went down, there was a county employee in charge of 397 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: the alerts who came out and said it was not 398 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: humans sending out the mistake and alerts, it was a 399 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 2: computers doing it. 400 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 7: First of all, I want to clarify this is not 401 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 7: human driven. There is no one sitting at a desk 402 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 7: right now initiating emergency alerts. 403 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: But Congressman Garcia saying, wait a second, there's not a 404 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: human that the computers are taking over and doing this 405 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: all on their own. 406 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 5: We have somehow an automated system that's sending out alerts 407 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 5: without any sort of human control. To be able to 408 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 5: stop that or to fix that issue as it's happening 409 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 5: is really concerning, And you. 410 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: Got to think, I mean when the fire department or 411 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: the Sheriff's Department or LAPD or making the decision of 412 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: what area is going to be evacuated next, and they 413 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: let the emergency operations center know there's got to be 414 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: a human inputting this information. 415 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: It's not you know, but be crazy about that? 416 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: Well, is that that that I forgot the name of 417 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: that guy that you played the clip of. He was 418 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: in charge of the emergency operations. He was trying to 419 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: reassure us that it wasn't human error. It sounded to 420 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: me like he just wanted everybody to know. It's like, no, 421 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: none of us made a mistake. Here was it was 422 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: the computer. It's like, that doesn't make anybody feel good. Well, 423 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: then you got the there was some rogue algorithm going on. Yeah, 424 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: but there's got to be a human deciding all right, 425 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: it's time to go and then activating whether they you know, 426 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 2: maybe they put it in and for whatever reason, the 427 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: computer expanded the area by mistake or they didn't click 428 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: the right button of where they wanted it to go off. 429 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 4: That they want to figure out. 430 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: So they are sending this now to a letter to 431 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: the county, to FEMA, to the FCC, to the software 432 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 2: company that they use to send out these emergency alerts 433 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: on your cell phone, saying they got to understand this. 434 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: They want to know for future emergencies. It could be 435 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: an earthquake, it could be a wildfire, it could be 436 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: a snowstay anything so this doesn't go on again, and 437 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: so in mass people aren't told to evacuate when they 438 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: really don't need to. And the Congressman saying, it's really 439 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 2: about the future of figuring out how to make it better. 440 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 5: We're prone our area to not just fires, but earthquakes 441 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 5: and other serious natural emergencies, and so we need to 442 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 5: make sure that we are prepared for whatever the next big. 443 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four and then 444 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 2: after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand. It's the 445 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 2: podcast version same as the radio show. A little bit 446 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: after four o'clock it's posted, so if you miss anything, 447 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: then you could play the podcast all afternoon, all evening, 448 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: all night into tomorrow morning. Among all the disasters that 449 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: we've been chronicling for a month now, man, can you 450 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: believe how many things the government failed and they don't 451 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: want to talk about it. Wait to hear the Steve 452 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: sober Off quotes. I'm going to tell you later. They're 453 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 2: trying to shut down all the criticism. They don't want 454 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: anybody asking anything. They're hoping all this goes away. Actually, 455 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: I think a lot of these people ought to go 456 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: to jail. A lot of people ought to go to 457 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: jail in government, people with the high speed rail fiasco, 458 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: people involved in this fire response. And one of the 459 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 2: aspects is we pay a lot of money for an 460 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: emergency alerts system in Los Angeles County, and as you know, 461 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: a lot of people got bogus alerts to evacuate when 462 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: they were nowhere near the fire. And then the people 463 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: in the fire zone and out to Dina where they 464 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: had quite an enormous amount of damage and some deaths. 465 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: Some of those neighborhoods never got a warning to evacuate 466 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: until seven nine hours later. And now Congress wants to 467 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: do an investigation. We're going to talk to Alex Stone 468 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: ABC News to see what this is about. 469 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: Alex. 470 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: We're team members of Congress who are saying, all of 471 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: them from southern California are saying, all right, whether it 472 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: be LA or you know, it could be anywhere in 473 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: the US or anywhere in the world, that we have 474 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: to understand how these wireless emergency alerts work, and if 475 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: they aren't working the way we think that they should, 476 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 2: then we got to get to the bottom of it, 477 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 2: because it didn't work during the wildfires. That yeah, areas 478 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: about the Dina where people died that they never got 479 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: them or got them heavily delayed many hours later. But 480 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 2: on the flip side of that, what this investigation is 481 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: really looking at, it's those erroneous ones that went out 482 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 2: to all ten million people in La County and some 483 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: in Orange County and some elsewhere saying that there was 484 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: wildfire near them and they needed to get out immediately. 485 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: And then oops, no, never mind that that was sent 486 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: out by mistake and those people were fifty miles away 487 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: from the wildfires and they had no danger around them. 488 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: So this is being led by Congressman Robert Garcia, former 489 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: mayor of Long Beach. He got it down in Long 490 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: Beach saying there's a wildfire near you, get out, and 491 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: he was like looking around, going there's nothing around here. 492 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 4: But he says, we got to figure this out. 493 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 5: This was a state emergency where there was a clear 494 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 5: failure in our system to get the public the information 495 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 5: they needed. 496 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: And this really isn't just about La, it could be anywhere. 497 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: They want to know why these cell phone alerts, you 498 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: know where the tone goes off and you get the 499 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: message why they didn't really work, and the erroneous ones 500 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: that he fears it's going to be like crying wolf 501 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 2: and the people will silence their alerts, which you can 502 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: do in the settings on your phone, and then you 503 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: won't get anything in the future, or ignore them just completely. 504 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: They come in, but you just look at them and 505 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 2: don't do what they say. Or you know, you tell 506 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: people forty fifty miles away from the disaster that they've 507 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: got to go at a time it was windy and dry, 508 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: that they could freak out and think that there's another 509 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: wildfire near them. I know, living in Santa Clarita that 510 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: we and our neighbors we thought there was something there 511 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: when we got the alert, because there were wildfires in 512 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: the general area, and you think where is it, you know, 513 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: waking up in the middle of the night thinking you 514 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: got to go, that somebody could get in their car 515 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: and crash their car or have an accident panicking trying 516 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: to get out. If you remember when this went down, 517 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: there was a county employee in charge of the alerts 518 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: who came out and said it was not humans sending 519 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: out the mistake and alerts, it was a computers doing it. 520 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 7: First of all, I want to clarify this is not 521 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 7: human driven. There is no one sitting at a desk 522 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 7: right now initiating emergency alerts. 523 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: But Congress mac Garcia saying, wait a second, there's not 524 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: a human that the computers are taking over and doing 525 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: this all on their own. 526 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 5: We have somehow an automated system that's sending out alerts 527 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 5: without any sort of human control. To be able to 528 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 5: stop that or to fix that issue as it's happening 529 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 5: is really. 530 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: And you got to think, I mean, when the fire 531 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: department or the Sheriff's department or LAPD or making the 532 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: decision of what area is going to be evacuated next, 533 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: and they let the emergency operations center know there's got 534 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: to be a human inputting this information, it's not you know, 535 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: but be crazy about that? Well? Is that that that 536 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 2: that I forgot the name of that guy that you 537 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: played the clip of. He was in charge of the 538 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: emergency operations. He was trying to reassure us that it 539 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: wasn't human error. It sounded to me like he just 540 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 2: wanted everybody to know. It's like, no, none of us 541 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: made a mistake. Here was it was the computer. It's like, 542 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 2: that doesn't make anybody feel good. Well, then you got 543 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: there was some rogue algorithm going on. Yeah, but there's 544 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: got to be a human deciding all right, it's time 545 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: to go and then activating whether they you know, maybe 546 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: they put it in and for whatever reason the computer 547 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: expanded the area by mistake or they didn't click the 548 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: right button of where they wanted it to go off. 549 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: That they want to figure out. 550 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: So they are sending this now to a letter to 551 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: the county, to FEMA, to the FCC, to the software 552 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: company that they use to send out these emergency alerts 553 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: on your cell phone, saying they got to understand this. 554 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 4: They want to know for future emergencies. 555 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: It could be an earthquake, it could be a wildfire, 556 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: it could be a snowstory, anything so this doesn't go 557 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: on again, and so in mass people aren't told to 558 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: evacuate when they really don't need to. And the congressman saying, 559 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: it's really about the future of figuring out how to 560 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: make it better. 561 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 5: We're prone our area to not just fires, but earthquakes 562 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 5: and other serious natural emergencies, and so we need to 563 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 5: make sure that we are prepared for whatever the next big. 564 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A sixty. 565 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: You may have heard in. 566 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: Deborah's News, and she'll have more at two o'clock. Right 567 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: as we started the show, Trump was doing his daily 568 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: rambling in front of the reporters and he got on 569 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: the high speed railcase here in California. He's wants a 570 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: criminal investigation. He said it's the worst project he's ever seen, 571 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: and it is. It's the worst project anybody's ever seen. 572 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: To continue discussing the high speed rail, we're going to 573 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: talk with assembly Woman Alexandra messdo Uh from Tallare and 574 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: she thinks it's time to cut off the funding after 575 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: seventeen years and ten and a half billion dollars on 576 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: a route between a Field and Madera and an Orchard 577 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: and Shafter, it's time to redirect. 578 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: The state's proper priorities. Shafter. That's the town I was 579 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: looking for. 580 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: You know how they're trying to tell you that they 581 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: are going to complete high speed rail between Bakersfield and. 582 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: Merced. It's not Bakersfield. And Merced. It's Shafter and Madera. 583 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: Shafter is outside of Bakersfield, and Madera is outside of Merced, 584 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: and it is an orchard and shafter and an empty 585 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: field in Madera. That's going to be the beginning and 586 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: end of the high speed rail system. Ten and a 587 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: half billion dollars and they want to spend billions more 588 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: in Tryump said there should be a criminal investigation, and 589 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: assembly Woman Alexandra Messido said, we've got to stop the 590 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: funding for this. 591 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: There's so much insanity. And guess what she thinks that 592 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: ought to go for. 593 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: Maybe wildfire prevention and water are infrastructure projects. 594 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: Maybe that would be more useful. 595 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: Ask the people in the Palisades if maybe a billion 596 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,479 Speaker 2: extra dollars should have been spent on the water system 597 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: and the hydrant system. So we're going to get to 598 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: that coming up. In fact, I got a whole thing 599 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: on the hydrants. The New York Times this story today 600 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: that Los Angeles has the Palisades, twenty five percent of 601 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: the fire hydrants date back to the nineteen forties. The 602 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: nineteen forties, they have the most primitive fire hydrant that 603 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: exists in the modern world. That was one of the 604 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: reasons that the firefighters could not respond properly to the 605 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: raging fire. They had these two and a half inch 606 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: diameter fire hydrant outlets, and it's supposed to be four inches, 607 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: but the hydrants in the Palisades go back to the 608 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: nineteen forties. Think of all the tax money that's been 609 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: paid since then, and then think of all the tax 610 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: money that goes for the stupid high speed rail. It's 611 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: just incredible. What's going on here now another story. People 612 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: are just upset all over the place here in southern California. 613 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: So the EPA is going to be collecting an enormous, 614 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: enormous amount of toxic waste right now. You would think 615 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: that the EPA has access to processing sites around the 616 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: country that they own processing sites, And there's a whole 617 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: big desert out not far from Los Angeles. 618 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: Guess where I'm telling you everybody in. 619 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: Government must hate They just all hate us because the 620 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: EPA is requested. 621 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: You're not gonna believe this. 622 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: They want to open a processing site for fire debris 623 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: near Malibu City Hall. Seriously, with all the government land, 624 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: all the land that the federal government owns in this state, 625 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: with that huge desert out there to the east. They 626 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 2: want to dump the fire debris near city Hall. All 627 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 2: the restaurants, all the residents are really upset and the 628 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 2: local officials. They do not want the hazardous waste stored 629 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: in a busy part of town, according to the La Times, 630 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: near multiple schools. 631 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: Oh but it's safe, John, it's safe. Yeah, because we've 632 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: done testing. Okay, we just found out a little while ago. 633 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: Steve Soboroff doesn't trust the water in the Palisades no 634 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 2: matter what the DWP's says. Now, the EPA is hoping 635 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: to use a concrete covered lot near the Civic Center 636 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: as a staging area for paint, bleach, asbestos, propane tanks, 637 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 2: lithium ion batteries that they've removed from the Palisades burn zone. 638 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: Oh and it said the discussion was heated. Why would 639 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: it be heated. 640 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be upset if that was in my backyard. 641 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: Why would you take the toxic waste to the middle 642 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: of Malibu, one guy said Jeremy Fink, whose kid goes 643 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: to a school nearby, at the meeting, I do resent 644 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: comparing this to like cleaning out some old DRAINO. 645 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: This is not effing DRAINO. The lot. 646 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: It's at the corner of Webway and Civic Center Way 647 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: in Malibu. It's a half mile from two elementary schools, 648 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 2: Webster Elementary and the Art Lady of Malibu School. It's 649 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: a quarter of a mile from Santa Monica College, the 650 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: Malibu Campus, one mile from Pepperdine. 651 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: Are they insane? 652 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: All the federal land in this whole wide world and 653 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 2: they're going to put all the toxic waste next to 654 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 2: Malibu City Hall, just down the block from all these schools. 655 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: You can't make this stuff up. Well, it's another thing 656 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: we got to follow here. We come back. 657 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: Alexandra Messdo, the assembly woman, says enough money on high 658 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: speed rail. How about the money goes for wildfire prevention 659 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: and what are infrastructure projects? We'll talk about that coming up. 660 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 2: Deborah Mark Live in the CAFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, 661 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: you've been listening to The John Covelt Show podcast. You 662 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: can always hear the show live on KFI AM six 663 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 664 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.