WEBVTT - Lorrie Morgan's Spicy Hot Husband Count

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<v Speaker 1>When you listen to yourself, like when you are re

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the show to edit it. Do you sound

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<v Speaker 1>so different you sound.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's honestly doing it for so long, it's changed

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<v Speaker 2>hearing both of us. I get to keep telling myself,

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, this doesn't sound like me. But then I

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<v Speaker 2>listen to your voice and it sounds exactly like I

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<v Speaker 2>hear you. So I think that, oh, okay, well then

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<v Speaker 2>I must sound like I sound. But also, sometimes, just

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, just your own voice, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>can get away from you. And if I not, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not paying attention to how I'm speaking, if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not putting some effort into the voice that I want

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<v Speaker 2>to have right, then sometimes it's like your posture slumping

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<v Speaker 2>and link your voice agains really lazy and gross.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true sometimes like now my throat, sit up, speak normally,

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<v Speaker 3>not three your nows, and actually this is I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>this is closer to my normal natural voice data day.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this is this is how I sat.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your very white impression, very white, very white wishes,

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<v Speaker 1>very white wishes. That's that's your single, very white Wishes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sing a few lines of your new single, very White Wishes.

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<v Speaker 2>I went down to the store.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Bought myself some more socks because my feet were getting big.

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<v Speaker 4>And I went back to my house and I put

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<v Speaker 4>on both those socks, and I also put on my

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<v Speaker 4>hot pink wig, and then I danced around the room

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<v Speaker 4>and I said, hey, look at me.

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<v Speaker 2>But no one else was around. So I was a

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<v Speaker 2>lone kale. And I jumped and screamed and sang, and

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<v Speaker 2>I took a bell and I rang until all the

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<v Speaker 2>neighbors came up to my door. You know what's that

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<v Speaker 2>to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Very white was funky? Okay, what is this country song

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<v Speaker 1>you singing?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm in the I'm in a country

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<v Speaker 2>song mood.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess today, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>So talk about transitions. We're getting right into it because

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<v Speaker 2>we are in. We're in. We're in the South today

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<v Speaker 2>in Tennessee, Kentucky. Oh wow, Ashville.

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<v Speaker 1>Bluegrass and Banjo's.

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<v Speaker 2>Classic seventies, eighties, nineties country pop music. Dinah, what's your

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<v Speaker 2>relationship to country music? We don't really talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think either us has much of one.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't have much one, although I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of family from Kentucky. Yeah, So there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of bluegrass lovers, a lot of gospel records

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<v Speaker 1>going on in Grandma's house, and mom Mom loves that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did always like Johnny Cash sure like old

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<v Speaker 1>school country. I never really liked pop country. That never

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<v Speaker 1>appealed to me. I will say, after watching Oh Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>We're I loved that soundtrack. Yeah, I did. Played that

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<v Speaker 1>soundtrack a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>That got us all into like old timey bluegrass, right

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<v Speaker 2>like we were all like, give me them down by

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<v Speaker 2>the river gospel music.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, I want the soggy bottom boys, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to I want to party. Let's put on the soggy

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<v Speaker 1>Bottom boys.

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<v Speaker 2>Similarly like I love that Oh Brother style, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>real old timey, scratchy vinyl record, big rock, candy mountain

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. For me, I would say my strongest

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<v Speaker 2>relationship to country music is also very old, not quite

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<v Speaker 2>as old, but forties fifties. I think, like Marty Robbins,

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<v Speaker 2>like cowboy music, word out in the out in the

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<v Speaker 2>Old West, and honest, I'll be fully honest, this kid

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<v Speaker 2>was born out of playing Fallout New Vegas, huh, because

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<v Speaker 2>the soundtrack to that game is a lot of old

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<v Speaker 2>cowboy music. Yeah, and and there was playing in the background.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Big Iron was one of the big songs

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<v Speaker 2>that played in that game a lot on the radio,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, this is kind of a pop

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on here with Marty Robbins And I just

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<v Speaker 2>when I drove for the first time by myself out west,

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<v Speaker 2>when I hit the desert, I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm putting on. And I put on like a

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<v Speaker 2>playlist and was just jamming to these old, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>old cowboy country hits.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank Williams je Sure that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I really connected to it. And now

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<v Speaker 2>whenever I'm in the desert, I feel like I need

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to that music makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just about to say this. I will never

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<v Speaker 1>say that I dislike an entire genre of music right

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think music works that way. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like music is so much about your mood and your

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<v Speaker 1>surroundings and what kind of mood you want to be in. Fully,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna if I'm just like pulling up Spotify

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<v Speaker 1>clean in the house, I'm not going to choose country music.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a time and a place where that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing you need to have on or else. It

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't. It just a fits so well. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like, I don't know, like driving through the desert.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you have the right soundtrack.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen you kick down a door and take out

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<v Speaker 2>an entire gang of like drug dealers and thieves and

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<v Speaker 2>you put on like def Leppard, you know it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>What else?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's pretty cool. I mean, you're you're always

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<v Speaker 2>like doing wall kicks and like flipping and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>knocking down three dudes at a time one and you've

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<v Speaker 2>got some serious heavy metal going on. Ye, it works.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally get it. Well, we should get into it

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<v Speaker 2>because today's episode, obviously we're talking about country music. This

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<v Speaker 2>episode was born out of a simple, little brief, not

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<v Speaker 2>even three sentence message on Instagram from our listener, Courtney

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<v Speaker 2>May Klaus at CM Klaus eight thirty on Instagram. And

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<v Speaker 2>side note, I cannot say the name Klaus without saying

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<v Speaker 2>Klaus Klaus because it's just it sounds like it should

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<v Speaker 2>be that so Courtney message us simply saying, listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the story of Sha and the story of the Butterfly

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<v Speaker 2>sounds an awful lot like the song Whiskey Lullaby once

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<v Speaker 2>you said beneath the Willow Tree. And as people who

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<v Speaker 2>don't know a lot about especially pop country music, we figured,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, let's look up this song. It's Brad Paisley

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<v Speaker 2>and Alison Krause called Whiskey Lullaby. I'm like, oh, a duet.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they a couple? No, they're not. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, well, nevermind, maybe there's nothing here. But as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just sort of glancing at the lyrics of this song,

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<v Speaker 2>I come to find out that one of the writers,

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<v Speaker 2>John Randall, was inspired for some of the lyrics to

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<v Speaker 2>this song by his very challenging divorce from country singer

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<v Speaker 2>Laurie Morgan. And whenever either of us I think finds

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<v Speaker 2>out that two people were married or divorced, were like,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, is this an episode? Was it ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Well, it turns out, my friends, that country

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<v Speaker 2>legend Laurie Morgan was married no less than six times,

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<v Speaker 2>and it does get pretty ridiculous there for a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>So Country music King Henry, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you so much, Courtney, because from that little

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<v Speaker 2>offhanded reference to a song, you've given us a full episode. Hey, kloud,

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<v Speaker 2>let's dive in find out about Lauri Morgan, her six

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<v Speaker 2>husbands and the devastating divorce that would lead to a

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<v Speaker 2>country hits.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get on this horse and rat hey their friends

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<v Speaker 1>come listen. Well, Eli and Diana got some stories to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no matchmaking o romantic tips. It's just about ridiculous relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>I love.

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<v Speaker 1>There might be any type of person at all, an

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<v Speaker 1>abstract concept or a concrete wall. But if there's a story,

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<v Speaker 1>We're the second Glance and show Ridiculous Romance, A production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Lori Morgan. She was born in nineteen fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Her father was famed country legend George Morgan. Now this

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<v Speaker 2>is my kind of music because George was known as

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<v Speaker 2>a country crooner. So he had a voice like a

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<v Speaker 2>rat pack Vegas lounge singer, right, just real smooth, deep voice,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful singer. But he put this talents into country songs. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>his daughter, Laurie was born in fifty nine, and her

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<v Speaker 2>full name was Loretta Lynn Morgan. And of course everyone

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<v Speaker 2>is thinking, well, she was named after my favorite country legend,

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<v Speaker 2>Loretta Lynn. Yeah, corect But actually Laurie was born in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty nine, Loretta Lynn did not come to Nashville

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<v Speaker 2>to get famous until about nineteen sixty one, so she

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<v Speaker 2>was just named that by coincidence. In fact, Laurie was

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<v Speaker 2>on Larry King's show doing an interview and she said

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<v Speaker 2>that Loretta Lynn always referred to her as her namesake,

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<v Speaker 2>which she was very proud of, of course, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>not really the case. It was just kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>naming coincidence, just a good sound in country name.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, Rede Lynn just a popular name at the

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<v Speaker 1>reta Lynn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She got welcomed into the country music biz in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two when she performed with her dad at the

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Ole Opry at just thirteen years old. Laurie and

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<v Speaker 1>her dad, George sang the song paper Roses Together, which

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<v Speaker 1>had first been recorded by Anita Bryant innineteen sixty. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and like side note, we're just gonna go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>call Anita Bryant this week's villain of the week because

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen seventies she's the bit you made it

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<v Speaker 1>her business to protests against gay rights.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>She was also one of the first public figures to

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<v Speaker 1>get pied in the face. There you go, take that Anita.

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<v Speaker 1>The pie thrower was Tom L. Higgins, who is the

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<v Speaker 1>author and gay rights activist who coined the term gay pride.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Anita Bryant. You helped a few thousand people learn

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<v Speaker 1>more about gay history today.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. What a legacy your life, schoal. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know who coined the term gay pride. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was just always out there. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Also another thing about Anita Bryant, because I like dunking

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<v Speaker 1>on her. Vincent Price once said in a TV interview

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<v Speaker 1>that Oscar Wild's play A Woman of No Importance must

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<v Speaker 1>be about Nita Bryant.

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<v Speaker 2>He Vince Price's the best. Also, apparently Johnny Carterson like

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<v Speaker 2>every week, had on any to Bryant dunk. Yes, Johny

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<v Speaker 2>was relentless making fun of her.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, Thank you, Johnny. Also in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>Anita's granddaughter, Sarah Green, announced that she was engaged to

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<v Speaker 1>a woman and was having a hard time deciding if

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<v Speaker 1>she should invite her grandmother to the Sarah Moon. So

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<v Speaker 1>all the best to Sarah. I hope your wedding was

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<v Speaker 1>lovely and Anita.

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<v Speaker 2>Free anyway, So Laurie Morgan and her dad George sang

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<v Speaker 2>Paper Roses and they got a standing ovation at the

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<v Speaker 2>grand O Lobry, but sadly, just three years later, her

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<v Speaker 2>father died after complications from heart surgery. Now Laurie she's sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>She went on to tour with members from his band

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually she went to work for the publishing firm

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<v Speaker 2>Acuff Rose Music as a receptionist and a demo singer,

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<v Speaker 2>and in nineteen seventy nine this led to her singing

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<v Speaker 2>with Hickory Records and she put out two singles, Two

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<v Speaker 2>People in Love and tell Me I'm Only Dreaming, and

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<v Speaker 2>these both charted with Billboard's Hot Country Songs. But by

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the year she had also released I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Completely Satisfied with You, and this was a duet that

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<v Speaker 2>she made with her father using archived vocals of his

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<v Speaker 2>and like some some new fangled electronic manipulation supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be real sweet and this also made the charts. And

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<v Speaker 2>then she started touring with nightclubs. She was opening for

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<v Speaker 2>musicians who, if you know country, are big names like

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Green, Genie Seely, and Billy Thundercloud, who I found

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<v Speaker 2>out was a First Nations Canadian country singer. Cool name yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he had the first full First Nations band and they

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<v Speaker 2>were all like or at least, you know, on the

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<v Speaker 2>charts or something like that, but they were all they

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<v Speaker 2>all they were pretty famous.

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<v Speaker 1>You think using someone's archived vocals to do a duet

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<v Speaker 1>with controversial like them, like in the AI John Lennon thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I don't know. I don't know because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't find the John Lennon thing to be that

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<v Speaker 2>controversial myself because they're not generating. It's not like Lennon

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<v Speaker 2>never took part in this song. They found a song

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<v Speaker 2>that he did record and used AI to like make

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<v Speaker 2>it sound good, right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the name is like a hologram John Lennon walking

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<v Speaker 1>out and being like, eat tostitos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, Oh, everybody eat tostitos. Delicious. Here's a day

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<v Speaker 2>in the life of me. First, I started the day

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<v Speaker 2>with delicious, lucky charms.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn John Lennon. That's when you get mad. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to get mad. Is when they start to make John

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<v Speaker 1>Lennon say some shit they would never say.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine all the people drinking fool just coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, back to Laurie. Sorry, I'm going all over place.

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<v Speaker 1>So at twenty years old, Laurie Morgan started touring as

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<v Speaker 1>a backup vocalist for international country superstar George Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that name sure.

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<v Speaker 1>While she was there, she met another young up and

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<v Speaker 1>comer named Sammy Kershaw, and they flew. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>probably had a little fling on the you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>little some something, but it was nothing serious because Laurie's

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<v Speaker 1>real focus was on George Jones's bassist, a young man

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<v Speaker 1>named Ron Gaddis, and when he met Laurie, his baseline

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<v Speaker 1>hit a solid country group or something. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know bass country music based terms. Okay, he he,

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<v Speaker 1>He plucked her string just right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, so she and Ron Gaddis hit it off and

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<v Speaker 1>they got married late in nineteen seventy nine. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not much known about their marriage. They did have a

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<v Speaker 1>daughter together, named Morgan Anastasia Gaddis. Anastasia was Laurie's mother's

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<v Speaker 1>full name. But unfortunately their marriage only lasted about two

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<v Speaker 1>years and it ended in divorce, and we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how or why, or like what happened to Ron after,

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<v Speaker 1>but Laurie's career continued to grow. In nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 1>At twenty five years old, she became the youngest inductee

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<v Speaker 1>of the Grand Ole Opry and the next year she

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<v Speaker 1>met Keith whitt So.

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<v Speaker 2>Keith Whitley is another country star making huge waves and

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<v Speaker 2>when they started dating in nineteen eighty five, they were

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<v Speaker 2>like the ultimate country music power couple, right. The speed

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<v Speaker 2>like today non country comparison is like Billie Eilish and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one of the one of the one of

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<v Speaker 2>the one of the one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 2>one the of the uh uh a stroke.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't think of a single name.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've got it. It's the band the K pop guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the b yeah BTS, one of the Billie Eilish

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<v Speaker 2>and a BTS. Those are comparable aged people, right, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn, we're so lame when it comes to music. We're like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not that into country music. But otherwise we also

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<v Speaker 2>know nothing about pop music, all right, So anyway, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a big deal, is all. I'm getting that here.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have just said jay Z and Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it wasn't that big though.

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<v Speaker 1>Too much. That's okay, that's too far. No one's like

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<v Speaker 1>jay Z and Beyonce except Jay Z freak exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>How dare I est? All right? So big country power couple.

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<v Speaker 2>But Keith had kind of a rough life up to

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<v Speaker 2>this point. He grew up in Sandy Hook, Kentucky, which

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<v Speaker 2>is in a dry county, lots of dry counties in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't buy alcohol there. And what happens is some

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<v Speaker 2>of the teenagers there who are in the rural Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>where I don't know if you know, but there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to do, so they start trying to fill

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<v Speaker 2>their time by drinking bootleg whiskey. You know, some moonshine

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<v Speaker 2>out of a jar in the backyard somewhere, and they

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<v Speaker 2>would race their cars around the Kentucky mountains, which, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>while drinking, is a bad combination. Once Keith was riding

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<v Speaker 2>shotgun in a car with his friend, and his friend,

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<v Speaker 2>who was driving, tried to pull a turn at one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty miles an hour. While the car wrecked

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<v Speaker 2>and his friend, the driver, was killed. Keith himself nearly

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<v Speaker 2>broke his neck and barely survived the accident. Keith also

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<v Speaker 2>once drove a car off a cliff into a frozen river.

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<v Speaker 2>He managed to only break his collar bone this time.

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<v Speaker 2>But in nineteen eighty three, Keith's brother Randy and his

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<v Speaker 2>father Elmer died in a motorcycle accident.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn.

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<v Speaker 2>So just a lot of challenges, tragedy, pain, heartbreak, and

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<v Speaker 2>despite all this success, which I'm sure fueled a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of his music, Keith was battling with alcoholism his whole

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<v Speaker 2>life and depression I'm sure as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But he and Laurie tied the knot in nineteen eighty six.

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<v Speaker 1>A year in they had a son named Jesse Keith Whitley,

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<v Speaker 1>and Keith even adopted Laurie's daughter, Morgan from her previous

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<v Speaker 1>marriage with the bassist. Both of their careers worre skyrocketing.

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<v Speaker 1>Keith had been recording songs for a new album, but

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of felt like they weren't up to his standards,

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<v Speaker 1>so he went to RCA. He asked if they could

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<v Speaker 1>scrab everything and just start over and let him have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more creative control with the writing and the

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<v Speaker 1>producing of the music.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, most country music is written by other people than

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<v Speaker 2>the singers.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the time he's like, let you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>ain't hidden. I want to let me let me drive

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<v Speaker 1>this train, and they agreed.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is surprising. That's bold for them to He must

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<v Speaker 2>have had some real sway shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that shows must be you know, he must have

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<v Speaker 1>been making good money. Yeah, so they said, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>And in nineteen eighty eight he was topping the country

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<v Speaker 1>charts with songs like I'm No Stranger to the Rain,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and don't close your e's.

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<v Speaker 2>Off the top of your head. Do you know any

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<v Speaker 2>of the lyrics to I'm No Stranger to the Rain

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<v Speaker 2>that you could sing us Diana? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, please, Well, I don't know well bow sunshine. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know well about blow Oh, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>all about thunder because I'm No Stranger to the Rain.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally see why that topped the charts. Beautiful can you? Hey, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got it on looping that for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the night.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very good song.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no about flowers anyway, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Laurie Morgan had signed with RCAs well. She put

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<v Speaker 1>out her first single with them in late nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and then in nineteen eighty nine she started touring to

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<v Speaker 1>promote her debut album Leave.

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<v Speaker 2>The Light On, Oh Lovely, and so this would have

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<v Speaker 2>been the first time that she went out to like

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<v Speaker 2>tour on her own name to sell her own music.

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<v Speaker 2>But on May ninth, just two days before this album

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<v Speaker 2>was released, Keith Whitley woke up. He made a phone

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<v Speaker 2>call to his mother and he had breakfast with his

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<v Speaker 2>brother in law Lane, Lane was going to take him

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<v Speaker 2>golfing and then in the evening, Keith was planning to

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<v Speaker 2>sit down and work on songs for him and Laurie

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<v Speaker 2>to sing together when she got back. Because Laurie was

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<v Speaker 2>still on tour and while she was gone, she asked

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<v Speaker 2>Lane to keep an eye on Keith. And this was

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<v Speaker 2>the first time that they'd been apart for a long

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<v Speaker 2>time since they got married, and she knew enough about Keith,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with his depression, with his alcoholism, to be

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<v Speaker 2>worried about him being all alone all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 2>Laane dropped Keith off at home at eight thirty am

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<v Speaker 2>and said he would pick him back up in an

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<v Speaker 2>hour for golf. When he got back to Keith's place,

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<v Speaker 2>Lane found Keith face down on the bed, unresponsive. He

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<v Speaker 2>was rushed to the hospital but pronounced dead at the

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<v Speaker 2>age of thirty four. The medical examiner said Keith's blood

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<v Speaker 2>alcohol level was zero point four to seven, which they

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<v Speaker 2>said is the equivalent of drinking thirteen shots of high

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<v Speaker 2>proof whiskey back to back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Laurie of course was crushed, and she actually spent the

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<v Speaker 2>next few years dead dedicated to preserving Keith's memory and

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<v Speaker 2>his contributions to country music, and in nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 2>in an interview, she said, quote, at this point in

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<v Speaker 2>my life, if I met another Keith Whitley, I would

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<v Speaker 2>walk away because I don't think I could handle it.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as him being the one, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we could have lasted forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Get a sense for how challenging it probably was.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I don't think I could handle it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's very famous and powerful and also very depressed

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<v Speaker 2>and an alcoholic. That's got to be really challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you know, from her perspective, she's thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>all of everything while he was alive, and also having

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with him dying that way. Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>she's like also saying, I can't do that again. I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be told my brother called me and is telling

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<v Speaker 1>me that my husband's unrespondiyeh, and all this stuff. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that would be really hard to go through once, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It was definitely not her last whirlwind row Man. It's

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, that's just number two of her six marriages.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna come back. They do keep getting crazier

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<v Speaker 2>and crazier. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right

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<v Speaker 2>back right after this. Welcome back to the show, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>We had some good commercials. Now they're done and we're good.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep on telling you this story. Unfortunately it doesn't end

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<v Speaker 2>with the good. Oh that is spoiler alert. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>shootings in this.

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<v Speaker 1>No shooting, right, dudes. Okay, so we know Loriie, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very devastated by the Keith Whitley death. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>a few years before Laurie started looking for love again.

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<v Speaker 1>But in nineteen ninety one she had a marriage more

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<v Speaker 1>like her first marriage in that we don't know much

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<v Speaker 1>about it and it didn't last very long.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Brad Thompson and he was the bus

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<v Speaker 1>driver for country star Clint Black.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that name, do you?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Clint Black famous enough for me to be familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with his name when I see.

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<v Speaker 1>It, famous enough that should be on his tour bus.

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<v Speaker 1>Famous enough for Eli Banks to know about hahu. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Laurie was touring with Clint and she had her eye

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<v Speaker 1>on Brad. But you know, he's the bus driver. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna go ask out one of the hit stars

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<v Speaker 1>of the tour. That would be maybe a bit presumptuous

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<v Speaker 1>what Brad to do. So Laurie's like, this one's on me.

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<v Speaker 1>She went and asked him out, and soon Brad asked

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<v Speaker 1>Laurie to marry him. Five months later she did, with

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<v Speaker 1>Clint Black standing as Brad's best man. Pretty cool, but

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out that Brad had a drinking problem that

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<v Speaker 1>Laurie did not know about. Man Once she came home

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<v Speaker 1>from a tour to find Brad getting ready to take

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<v Speaker 1>her son Jesse out in the snow, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what y'all doing? And Brad said, quote, I'm gonna pull Jessie.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to slip brown mastruck. Oh, And of course

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Laurie could smell the alcohol on him, even if he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't sound like I just sounded just smell it. So

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.639
<v Speaker 1>she flipped out about this because of course we already

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<v Speaker 1>know she has a bad history of people who were alcoholics. Yeah,

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 1>she was also already stressed out. She had some bad

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:24.199
<v Speaker 1>money problems and even worse health problems because after a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks of having like constant pain in her abdomen,

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Laurie discovered that she had endometriosis.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. Her doctors recommended that she have surgery to

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<v Speaker 2>have the cysts on her ovaries removed, but while she

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<v Speaker 2>was on the operating table, the surgeons decided that it

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.200
<v Speaker 2>would be best for her to have a full hysterectomy.

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<v Speaker 2>Since she was under of course, she could not decide

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<v Speaker 2>or consent to this, but her husband could, so it

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 2>was up to Brad. The doctors went to him and

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<v Speaker 2>were like, Hey, should we should give your wife a hysterectomy?

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<v Speaker 2>You in or you out?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sign here or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like, I can't imagine that's a fun choice

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 2>for Brad either, not because he's got to not only

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<v Speaker 2>if he ever cares about having kids with her, you know,

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 2>that's something he has to consider. And also, oh, I'm

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:14.160
<v Speaker 2>making this huge life changing decision for you, but also

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 2>it might it's medically necessary and you might have to

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.439
<v Speaker 2>go into surgery again later. Nobody wants to do it twice.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there's really this feels like a situation where there's

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>no way to be right yeah or do a good

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>yeah for real. I feel like either way you can

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.159
<v Speaker 1>get in a lot of well.

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 2>He decided that they should go for it, and so

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 2>she didn't even find out that she'd had her uterus

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 2>removed until she woke up from the operation. She wrote

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 2>that she was depressed when she found out that she

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have any more kids, but ultimately she's, you know,

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 2>a very religious person. She said, it's it's God's will.

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that. Plus, of course, she was not

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.439
<v Speaker 2>so sure that things were going to work out with Brad,

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 2>and she thought maybe having another kid with him would

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:01.399
<v Speaker 2>have been a bad move anyway, and sure enough, she

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.400
<v Speaker 2>filed for divorce from Brad in nineteen ninety three, less

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 2>than two years after they got married. She said she

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 2>basically never saw or heard from him again, although reports

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.639
<v Speaker 2>say that in their divorce, Laurie gave Brad sixty five

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars and a pickup truck, which also sounds like

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 2>a country song making sure does I got sixty five

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars, ain't a pickup truck in my divorce? And

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>now I'm going on to eat a pie.

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, I thought it was gonna be something about

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>like and and a pickup truck. And now all see

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 1>is you in my rear view?

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh see that's pretty good. Now we got something. Somebody

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 2>call up John Randalls. This nice. So Brad got the

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 2>sixty five K the pickup truck. Apparently, she also gave

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.919
<v Speaker 2>him back all his possessions, which included a photo of

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 2>him that said World's greatest bus driver. Sure I would

0:25:57.760 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 2>brought that back too. I also would find no reason

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 2>to keep that if in the divorce, I don't need this,

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you can have Yes, you can have your weird picture back.

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Well. Now, before Laurie's divorce with Brad was finalized and

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:15.199
<v Speaker 1>he had his pickup treck, she was dating the Dallas

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys quarterback Troy Aikman.

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Oooh do you know Troy Aikman.

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Not at all? Oh man less than Clint Black. Do

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I know Troy aiks Wow?

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I mean I was. You know, I was never

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.160
<v Speaker 2>a big football fan, but when I was a kid,

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, early nineties, Stephanie, Troy Aikman was a huge name.

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 2>It was like him, Dan Marino, Oj Simpson, all of

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 2>them turned out great.

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Out fantastic, still making headlines.

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Because well, that's for sure, some more than others.

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Right. I think the only name in the nineties that

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>I knew related to sports was Dave Justice and Chipper

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Jones because the nineteen ninety six Braves won the World Series.

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh there you go. Yeah, I wasn't in Atlanta yet.

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know Chipper Jones to he moved down here,

0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 2>but I never knew Dave Justice. Dave Justice and Chipper

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 2>jas also sounds like a country song to me. Old

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 2>ages to say, Chipper Jones going down Lanta and they're

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 2>entering your homes. I don't know they're entering their own.

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.160
<v Speaker 2>I think I said your homes.

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Why are they coming to my house? It sounds kind

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>of scary, like funny games like Justice and they're entering

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>your homes causing psychological damage?

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Wow? I thought maybe they were just like signing baseball's

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 2>or something. Why are they negative? Right away?

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I really start therapy again, Really, ship, I should look

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>into this. Why is like the first thing I saw,

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I was like, they're trying to murder me? All right,

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, it's like a nice make a wish

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>type is it?

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 2>But and then you go said, I'm just like they're

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 2>coming into sign baseballs and you're like, it's my last wish. Wow,

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 2>you're so.

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's so naked psychological damage. Well for another podcast.

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.680
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<v Speaker 1>We'll start another struggle what the fuck is wrong with Diana?

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<v Speaker 1>And it'll just be me to asking better Help what's

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:32.320
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0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Like, I just want to try to say it's better Help.

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Can't just tell you what's wrong with you. You got

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.040
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0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:53.040
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0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Wrong with that?

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>All right? So whatever Laurie was dating, the well known

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>everyone knows about him was quarterback Troy Aikman. At first,

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>she was very disinterested when her friend was trying to

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>match her up with Troy. But he was very handsome

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and successful and he did not have a drinking problem.

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Check check check.

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>So they started dating. But it was a lot tabloids,

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 1>gossip magazines, morning news. She couldn't even go to the

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>supermarket without it being a big deal. You know, they're

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.719
<v Speaker 1>like stars, Y're just like us. They eat food, you know.

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>And so this was a level of fame that Laurie

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>really didn't get as a country music star.

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Also a big problem with them was that Troy wanted kids,

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and he was eight years younger than Laurie was. So

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>he's dating an older woman who had two children already,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>who also definitely could not have any more children. That

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>was really tough for him, and Laurie wrote quote, I

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>couldn't blame him for that. That's a big hurdle for

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.959
<v Speaker 1>a man in his mid twenties. So they broke up

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>amicably less than a year later.

0:29:55.800 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Right, So Laurie's single. Now she's killing it professionally, She's

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>playing on TV. She's doing huge concerts alongside big names.

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 2>She was on the soundtrack for the Beverly Hillbillies movie,

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 2>which had like Dolly Parton and Willie Nelson, like a

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of big names. She also put out a Christmas

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>album that had her doing duets with Andy Williams, Johnny Mathis,

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 2>and Tammy Wynette. She even starred in a TV pilot

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 2>about a country music singing detective called Laura Lei Lee.

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 2>The show was not picked up for a series, and

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm half wondering if it's not just because people couldn't

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 2>pronounce Laura Lei. Lee reminds me of the rural drove

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Laurelie Lee. Have you seen it? You sound drunk when

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 2>you talk about it.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Loy also a country music the Tectics kind of Philly.

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. Maybe maybe they do a song

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>after every U, or they do the song and they

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>reveal the culprit.

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, in the lyrics they're like, turns out David

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Justice and Jibber Jones had come down to Atlanta. They

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>were entering homes.

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I knew the crime all the time.

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Suspicious. You were right to be suspicious of everything.

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, never trust your fellow man.

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Wow in the caston all right. Well, after dating Troy Aikman,

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Laurie went in a different direction, and in nineteen ninety

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 2>four she started dating US Senator Fred Thompson of Tennessee. Wow.

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>So she's had a bassist, a bus driver, a footballball star,

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and a country music thing of course, and then now

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>a senator.

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>She really does do be trying style.

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she said in her autobiography Forever Yours Faithfully My

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Love Story that Fred was great. He is so great.

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Even his ex wife still liked him. She said that

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 2>she liked dating older, successful man and she felt very

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>secure with him. He also was very kind to her.

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 2>He pushed her to feel more confident about her talents

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 2>and her music and everything. He lavished her with gifts.

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Obviously a very wealthy man because he's a Southern senator.

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 2>And Fred was even mulling a presidential run at that point,

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 2>and Laurie wrote quote, I would be sitting at a

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 2>glamorous party and have the flickering thought, so this is

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>what it's like to be a first lady. Hell. I

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>could handle that. Then I would say, oops, better drop

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 2>the hell. Beautiful country singers and they're just have you know,

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 2>foul mouth, they got no hesitation occurs in stuff.

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>You know. I'm into that. But yeah, Laurie thought dating

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>a politician was too stifling. Sure, She wrote quote, I

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>cannot express myself as a pungent, pithy country singer. I

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>began to feel programmed to smile and be well political.

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I put myself to the task could be in a

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 1>great companion to a stimulating and important man, and as

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>a result, I became boring. I mean right there, She

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>had to drop the hell. Yeah, right, so that makes sense. Yeah,

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>she said. She felt like everything she said she had

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to think about the political implications. She couldn't really be herself.

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>And just like when she dated Troy Aikman, every time

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>she went out in public, it was tabloids and TV

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>analyzing everything she wore, every facial expression she made, which

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, I feel like dating a

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>senator is not all the way to get out of

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the public eye.

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Right right, the worst direction even worse, right, she said.

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I used to think I better drop the hell. Then

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I realized I better drop the hell out of this relationship.

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I dropped the hymn instead. Shortly after they broke up,

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>she started dating another country singer and songwriter named John Randall.

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>John Randall the co writer of the song A Whiskey Lullaby.

0:33:55.640 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>We got him, We made it to everybody clap. So

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety six they got married, same year she

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>broke up with the senator. Yeah, so just a quickie,

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>quick turnaround for ol Laurie. A year later, she published

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>her autobiography that we mentioned earlier, Forever Yours Faithfully My

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Love Story.

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so she's married and she puts out this

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>autobiography titled My Love Story. Well Entertainment Weekly gave the

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 2>book a C, saying quote Morgan offers unsavory new details

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 2>about Keith Whitley's last days and dishes the skinny on

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 2>dating Troy Aikman and Senator Fred Thompson, but she doesn't

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 2>do much soul searching about the four marriages she's racked

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 2>up by age thirty eight, and when she fails to

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 2>even mention her current spouse, singer John Randall, you can't

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>help but size him up as a future ex husband.

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:48.919
<v Speaker 1>Oo out.

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that's insane for someone to publish an autobiography

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 2>called Forever Yours Faithfully My Love Story and not mentioned

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 2>their current spouse.

0:34:58.200 --> 0:34:59.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean that is pretty crazy.

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>A little prescient maybe.

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 1>Though I don't love the judgment that I'm hearing in

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.760
<v Speaker 1>not much soul searching about the four marriages she's racked

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 1>up by age thirty eight. Yeah, now, Laurie, I don't

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>think that she's necessarily the steadiest like partner everything, but

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>one of them died.

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not like she's trying to jump from man to

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>man or something. There's just there's it's smacks of a

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>judgment that I don't love.

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally get that.

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I just wonder, you know, I have to wonder if

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 1>if it was a man who had racked up four

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>marriage that they would even mention it. You know, it

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>would just be like some dude doing his thing. Yeah,

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't like. I just don't. I don't see them

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>being like he needs to really think about what he's doing.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>It's never like that.

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.720
<v Speaker 2>No, you're right, I don't know. And to be fair.

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 2>On page two hundred and eighty seven out of three

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 2>hundred and one, so fourteen pages before the end, she

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 2>does mention John Randall once. Oh I am Yeah, she

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 2>does say I married a country singer name John Randall,

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 2>and it must have been really hard for him to

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 2>see me writing about all my ex husbands all the time.

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's the only mention of him. She didn't

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>like go in and add a chapter about like, but

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I finally found the love of my life and I'm

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 2>so excited that that was not in there.

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>You think John read it and was like, okay, am

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I kicking up what you're putting down?

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Is there a sequel you're planning or Because it says

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 2>my love story and I ain't in it.

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not in it, so I guess it's not my

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:32.320
<v Speaker 1>love story.

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 2>It says forever yours faithfully, and it's not to me

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 2>your husband. So that's interesting. Now.

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I will say, in defense of their smack of judgment,

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.839
<v Speaker 1>that it is funny to call your book forever Yours faithfully,

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>and then we talk about all these different.

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Men, right right. I do think that mostly refers to Keith,

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 2>because she's like, he died and a lot of it

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.240
<v Speaker 2>was about her dealing with his death, which I understand.

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:01.240
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it is kind of like I love story.

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 2>But you know who doesn't factor into my love story

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.760
<v Speaker 2>at all? My current husband, a guy.

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Who's ring I'm wearing well. In December of nineteen ninety six,

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>just a month after their wedding, Laurie and her new husband,

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>John performed together on the Grand Ole Opry, singing a

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>duet of the song by My Side. In nineteen ninety seven,

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Laurie performed the National Anthem at the Daytona five hundred,

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>which was historic because it was also Jeff Gordon's first

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Daytona win.

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Look get that.

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>She also sang let It Snow at the White House

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Christmas tree lighting. Oh and in nineteen ninety eight, tabloids

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>claimed she had quote a wild ride in the backseat

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 1>of a limousine with President Bill Clinton.

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh scandalous.

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>The Laurie angrily refuted this story. She said her only

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>interaction with Bill Clinton was in public for the tree lighting.

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, but of course makes sense to be like,

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, our our swingin' playboy president.

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, Bill Clinton said in January of ninety eight,

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I did not have sexual relations with that woman, so

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 2>talking about Monica Lewinsky, of course, so this had have

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.879
<v Speaker 2>been right. So if he was fooling around with more

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 2>than one woman, as men who fool around with other

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 2>women often.

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Do, very true.

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm just look, I will totally take Laurie's word for this,

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 2>but there's a part of my brain she can't convince

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:29.400
<v Speaker 2>that something didn't happen. His little little part of the

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 2>tabloid stuck in my head. That's how they make their money.

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I just love thinking that an actual wild night with

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton would be like he pulls out the sacks

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:44.479
<v Speaker 1>and he's like it's time there whispers whatever, and she's

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>in the back of limousine like hanging out the sun roof.

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:55.240
<v Speaker 2>He's got fucking Baker Street blasted. Yes, she's like too wow.

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Also a side note, just a little happy story. A

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>month after that, in April, on Interstate sixty five in Nashville,

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>two dogs got loose on the highway and drivers had

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 1>to like hit the brakes to avoid them, and it

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>caused a huge backup that Laurie's tour bus got stuck in.

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 1>So Laurie Morgan got out of her bus, walked across

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the highway and rescued the two dogs. Aw Hey, Lourie.

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 1>She showed up late for her rehearsal covered in mud.

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh worth it well. Later that year, Laurie recorded a

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 2>duet with a country singer that she knew way back when,

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 2>and he had become quite famous himself. His name was

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Sammy Kershaw. And if you remember back when she was

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.319
<v Speaker 2>touring with George Jones when she was twenty years old,

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.720
<v Speaker 2>she had a little flaying with young Sammy Kershaw before

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>she ended up marrying the bassist Ron Gaddis Right. Well,

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 2>turns out the spark was still alive between Laurie and Sammy,

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:55.720
<v Speaker 2>who was also very married. EU it's gonna get messy

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 2>in here. So before we get to her fifth marriage,

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 2>let's take a quick break. Prepare for all this drama

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 2>and see I would eventually lead to the song that

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Courtney originally sent us, Whiskey Lullaby. Find out how right

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 2>after this, Well, going back, y'all to the show, Jipper

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:21.320
<v Speaker 2>joneses here and he's coming in your door. Oh my god,

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.280
<v Speaker 2>get away from this song. It's so fun.

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm terrified of Chipper Jones showing up of my door.

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:32.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's the late nineties. Country music star Laurie Morgan

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>is married to another country singer and songwriter, John Randall.

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Now the big picture of what happened next is totally true,

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>but the little details are from some tabloids.

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we'll try to.

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Differentiate for you. Yeah, you can take the tabloid stuff

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:47.919
<v Speaker 1>with the large grain of salt.

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 1>So, according to Star Magazine in nineteen ninety eight, Laurie

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>was recording a duet with another country star, Sammy Kershaw.

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Now we know Sammy and Laurie had that flaying when

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>they were both touring with George Jones back in seventy nine,

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>but she ended up marrying the bassist. Well, Sammy and

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Laurie crossed paths a lot over the years, and they

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 1>kept in touch a little. But The Star says that

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>during these recording sessions they were quote flirting heavily, and

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>they were also going to each other's concerts. They even

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 1>did a few duets outside the studio.

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's the Star, Okay, a little honkey tonk in

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 2>the bedroom there, Okay, okay. Now. The Star also says

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 2>that John Randall started hearing these rumors, and, according to

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 2>a friend, quote he started calling Sammy's band members asking

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 2>what's going on with my wife and Sammy?

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Yikes.

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Well they must have given him some detailed answers, because

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 2>on August eighth of nineteen ninety nine, the Tennesseean reported

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 2>that John Randall and Laurie Morgan were getting a divorce. Meanwhile,

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Sammy Kershaw's wife, Kim, whom he had been married to

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 2>for fourteen years and had two daughters with, was none

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 2>too happy when news got back to her that her

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 2>husband had been fooling around with his long lost sweetheart.

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 2>On November ninth of nineteen ninety nine, she filed for

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 2>divorce from Sammy in Nashville, citing irreconcilable differences. So that's

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, the divorce filings in both cases were true.

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 2>We don't know if, like, you know, all those about

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 2>all the rumors getting back to them and their angry

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 2>responses and all this stuff that's kind of being filled

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 2>in by the tabloids. But you know, some tabloid stuff

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>is true.

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Something I don't know is something.

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Also, according to The Star, Sammy and Kim actually had

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 2>had a great marriage. They had both been married a

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 2>couple times before, and they had both had troubles with

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 2>drugs and alcohol in their previous relationships. So now, after

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 2>fourteen years of marriage and two kids, they both really

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 2>felt like they'd settled down, their crazy days were behind them.

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 2>But then Laurie walked back into Sammy's life and everything changed,

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 2>and Kim allegedly was pissed.

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 1>So Kim went after Sammy hard in the divorce, and

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>we did find a few details of their divorce proceedings

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 1>on rolandnote dot COM's country music database. So on day

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 1>one of their divorce trial, Kim accused Sammy of adultery

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 1>with Laurie Morgan. He fired back and said that she

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>had had an affair where a used car sales. What Then,

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>on day two, it was revealed that Sammy Kershaw had

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>paid fifty thousand dollars to settle a sexual harassment lawsuit

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>back in nineteen ninety seven. Oh man, we cannot find

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>any more info about that.

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 2>And I know it was like trying so hard, but

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 2>it's the only record of that.

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:48.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess if you settle part of.

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 2>That is the whole point is like cleaning my soft

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:52.760
<v Speaker 2>quiet Yeah.

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 1>My record and stuff. So anyway, so this trial just

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>went on for weeks, and they were a little bombshells

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>being dropped and thrown by each each of them and everything.

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 1>But during their divorce trial, it seems like Laurie and

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>John was it have a more of a quick and

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>clean process. CMT dot com said, quote Morgan will keep

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>all her own assets and Randall will keep his. The

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 1>two have reportedly stated that they will remain friends and

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>possibly work together in the future. Though it sounds like,

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:23.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's all right, buye you like famy whatever.

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 2>So by week three of Sammy and Kim's divorce trial,

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 2>he had accused Kim of excessive spending, saying that she

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:34.360
<v Speaker 2>logged one hundred and eighty two thousand dollars in personal

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:38.359
<v Speaker 2>expenses in nineteen ninety nine. Well damn, but Sammy could

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 2>throw whatever accusations he wanted at Kim and just nothing

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>was sticking, probably partly because even during their divorce trial,

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Sammy and Laurie were not even trying to be discreet

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 2>about their relationship together. Laurie even opened a restaurant called

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Laurie Morgan's Spicy Hot Chicken Coop, which had Sammy Kershaw's

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 2>potato salad on the menu.

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>At one point, Kim Kershaw dropped this bombshell on the court.

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 2>She testified that Laurie Morgan admitted to her that she

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:16.399
<v Speaker 2>had an affair with Sammy back in nineteen ninety three. Now,

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Sammy would have been still married to Kim at that

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 2>point because they got married in the mid eighties. But

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 2>if we play back the tape from earlier in this podcast,

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:29.840
<v Speaker 2>we know that in nineteen ninety three, Laurie was feeling

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 2>unhappy with her bus driver husband, Brad Thompson, and divorced

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 2>him for sixty five thousand dollars and a pickup truck.

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 2>So maybe that affair had something to do with what

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 2>ultimately broke up Laurie and Brad or came about because

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Laurie and Brad were already on the rocks, right, but

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 2>either way kind of adds a new piece of info

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:52.800
<v Speaker 2>to that story.

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Very true.

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>In April of two thousand and one, Sammy and Kim

0:45:56.520 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Kershaw's divorce was finalized. The judge head zero sympathy for

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:05.640
<v Speaker 1>sam He's like you are wild annowed Sammy, So he

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 1>was ordered to pay thirty five thousand dollars for Kim's

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>legal fees, four thousand dollars a month in alimony, and

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>six thousand, five hundred dollars a month in child support.

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Kim also received primary custody of the kids, and the

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 1>judge said, quote.

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 5>Mister Kershaw's marital misconduct has been open and notorious, with

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 5>absolutely no discretion being used to protect his wife and

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 5>children from information concerning his affair.

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 1>With Miss Lori Morgan.

0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I love this Tennessee judge. Should I give more

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 2>this Sam Eagle from Tennessee? Oh no, it's.

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:47.840
<v Speaker 1>A powdered wig that he puts on to make his judgment.

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Country Bumpkins.

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:57.839
<v Speaker 1>He was sent there as from the city.

0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.320
<v Speaker 2>From the city for being for being two by the book,

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 2>he couldn't he couldn't work with the mobsters that were

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 2>running you know, the city Seattle, where he had previously

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:10.760
<v Speaker 2>been a judge, and they were like, I'm sending you

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 2>to Nashville. Like, no, fine, I'll bring my brand of

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 2>justice to Nashville. Let's see how it works down there.

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Call me barrister.

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 2>That British.

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, anyway, you might wonder, you know, did Sammy take

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that to heart, this judge being like hella judgmental?

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 2>He was, maybe like judgmental.

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:45.279
<v Speaker 1>That judge really pegged me I should maybe act a

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 1>little more discretion and humility, maybe act like a gentleman. Nope,

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 1>because eleven days after the divorce was finalized, he and

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Laurie went on Live with Regis and Kelly to announce

0:47:56.120 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 1>their engagement. I swear they are like why people to

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:01.399
<v Speaker 1>get mad at them?

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, Like it's not even like, well they got engaged.

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Eleven days later, they went on the biggest live morning

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 2>talk show in the world to tell literally everyone, they will, yes,

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 2>screw our previous marriages. We're starting this one now.

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>First it was chicken and potato salad. Now it's heart

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and soul. So on September twenty ninth, two thousand and one,

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:23.360
<v Speaker 1>they got married in Nashville.

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 2>Now on Larry King, Laurie did an interview and she said,

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:30.800
<v Speaker 2>quote from the first time I met Sammy, there was

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:34.280
<v Speaker 2>a traction there. Nothing happened, and some twenty years later

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:36.799
<v Speaker 2>we were both in marriages and we decided to get

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:38.840
<v Speaker 2>out of those marriages to pursue the love that we

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 2>felt for each other. It was tough on our family,

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 2>our children and our fans. But you know, you only

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 2>live once, which I mean, you know, there's something to that,

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 2>and sort of like, why am I, for the sake

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 2>of etiquette gonna delay the thing that brings me happiness?

0:48:59.320 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Something there? But also you got to consider who you

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 2>are hurting, right, and you can't always just pursue the

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 2>thing that you want the most deeply when you've got

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:11.240
<v Speaker 2>to consider other people's feelings and well being as well.

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>But you know, well, and this might be where you know,

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you want some of that self analysis to come in,

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 1>get her to think to herself, you know, my heart

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.799
<v Speaker 1>is a little fickle. Yeah, maybe I don't need to

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 1>marry every man. We could just stay for a.

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 2>While and maybe you know, when there's when I'm married

0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 2>to someone and I'm attracted to someone else, I sort

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 2>of ride that out, you know, and try to get

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 2>through it and see what's going on with Yeah, I mean,

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 2>who knows what was going on?

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Mind or heart hurt wants what it wants and so on.

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 2>But a year into the marriage, things apparently got a

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 2>little rocky again. That fickle heart reared its head because

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Laurie and Sammy had both filed restraining orders against each other.

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 2>She told Larry King in this interview, which was after

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 2>or they'd reconciled, that this had come from pressure from

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 2>outside forces who quote didn't want us to succeed. They

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 2>were being played against each other by either people who

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:14.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, who were angry about how their previous divorces

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 2>went down, or by the tabloids who were seeking drama.

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 2>She said, quote we fell for it. We took it

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:22.840
<v Speaker 2>out on each other, and one fight led to another

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:27.799
<v Speaker 2>and it became extremely, extremely violent. It was very uncalled for.

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Of this violence. Can only find out that in court.

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Sammy is the one who claimed that Laurie assaulted him.

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.359
<v Speaker 2>But she did say that neither of them were doing

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:40.480
<v Speaker 2>any drugs or drinking. She said, neither of them do

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:42.840
<v Speaker 2>because they both had bad histories with it. It was

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 2>just a lot of built up frustration and hot heads

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:50.279
<v Speaker 2>and you know, tempers and all that. But when she

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:52.840
<v Speaker 2>came back later to pack up some of her stuff,

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, they saw each other. They started to talk.

0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 2>They realized that they had already gone through so much

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 2>drama just to be together, that they must really matter

0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:03.799
<v Speaker 2>to each other and they should try and work this out.

0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 2>So they talked for a while and it seemed like

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 2>things were going to be okay, okay.

0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:11.840
<v Speaker 1>But even though they were later seen acting quote unquote

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 1>lovey dovey, I guess there were a lot of PDA

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 1>going on in Hot Chicken, Cooper.

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Probably trying to undo all those tabloid headlines.

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, even so they had problem. Yeah, in

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five, the Hot Chicken restaurant closed, you

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:30.839
<v Speaker 1>know seven Sammy filed for bankruptcy, and later that year

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 1>he announced his candidacy as a Republican for Lieutenant governor

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:37.919
<v Speaker 1>of Louisiana. Oh and we know, LORI, you know, don't

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:39.879
<v Speaker 1>like Dayton politicians.

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Right, you know, nice like I tried that.

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>By the way, he lost. Yeah, he did not win

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:45.319
<v Speaker 1>that win.

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Also weird that he like declared bankruptcy and was like

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I know how to get back on my feet with

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 2>money run for politics, which just kind of shows you

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 2>what her political run will do for your financial situation.

0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 1>That's true, But I was about to say, it's very

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:01.839
<v Speaker 1>expensive to run a president right, I mean, not even presidential,

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:06.320
<v Speaker 1>any any office. A race for any office is pretty pricey. Yeah,

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:08.200
<v Speaker 1>so it's like you kind of have to have some

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:09.279
<v Speaker 1>of your own money too.

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's one thinking is this was a play against

0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:13.400
<v Speaker 2>the system. This is one of those like I'm a

0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:17.240
<v Speaker 2>declare bankruptcy so that I have I can debt free

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 2>run for office, and in running for office, I can

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 2>raise money, I can sell books, whatever it is he did,

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of people walk away from a run

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:29.359
<v Speaker 2>with more money than they started with, despite having spent

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:32.120
<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars on the run. There's a big problem

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:34.399
<v Speaker 2>with money in the political system, is all I'm saying here.

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:38.320
<v Speaker 1>You're so right. So on top of all that, even

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:42.440
<v Speaker 1>their respective crowds couldn't get along because Lori said she

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 1>was quote unquote laid back music, kind of like Tammy Wynette,

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, in that vein. Sammy meanwhile, was more like

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:53.920
<v Speaker 1>southern rock, like a Leonard Skinnard. Okay, so they're like,

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 1>we can't even tour together because their fans didn't mix,

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:59.760
<v Speaker 1>they didn't share interest in the others music or whatever.

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 1>So it was just a lot of problems like that,

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and in August of that year, Sammy and Laurie legally separated.

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 1>By October, LORII filed for divorce. The next year, some

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:14.560
<v Speaker 1>trust sued Laurie Morgan for three hundred and twenty seven

0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars in unpaid debt, So then she filed for

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:21.759
<v Speaker 1>bankruptcy in two thousand and eight, citing between one and

0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 1>ten million dollars in debt, which it's like, that's a

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 1>huge disparity.

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:29.879
<v Speaker 2>There's a big difference between one and two million dollars.

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 2>In fact, there's a million dollar difference between those two numbers.

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I think, I see what your problem is is that

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you don't be tracked.

0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:39.600
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I don't know, one million, ten million, it's

0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 2>all the same.

0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>No, it isn't it's it's not the same very much,

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 1>not so big shock. Laurie was never good with money.

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 1>She told the Boot in twenty sixteen that her bankruptcy

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:53.680
<v Speaker 1>was because, quote, she didn't watch her own money or

0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:56.399
<v Speaker 1>audit her accountant, right that is a trap.

0:53:56.760 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 2>And if you're so rich that you.

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Have so many people looking after your money, yeah, look

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 1>after them right.

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 2>That was a comment in one of these articles too,

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:06.359
<v Speaker 2>that it's like this is not uncommon for celebrities who

0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 2>suddenly have a lot of money and don't really know

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:10.319
<v Speaker 2>how to handle it. So they have people do and

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:12.799
<v Speaker 2>they just assume all their bills are getting paid. They

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:15.880
<v Speaker 2>just assume everything's being handled and then they get a

0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 2>letter one day that's like, hey, it hadn't been handled.

0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, look at Shakira, right?

0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Was not?

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Her argument was that her tax people were doing her taxes.

0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's pretty much. The most ridiculous of Lori

0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Morgan's love life is those those first five husbands number five,

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:39.799
<v Speaker 2>especially that whole just tabloid drama, divorce, cheating everything. Afterwards,

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:42.239
<v Speaker 2>she did get married one more time to Randy White,

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:45.360
<v Speaker 2>a businessman. That was in twenty ten, and they seem

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:48.839
<v Speaker 2>to still be married happily today. Oh yeah, she's got

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 2>an active Facebook page where she almost exclusively posts dog memes,

0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:57.399
<v Speaker 2>but she does have pictures of the two of them

0:54:57.440 --> 0:54:59.719
<v Speaker 2>on a beach and stuff, and you know, seeming to

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:02.719
<v Speaker 2>be doing okay, I guess she does little tours. She

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:05.320
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm playing this music hall and Niagara Falls

0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:07.319
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. So I guess she's still playing

0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:11.480
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. So that's that's Laurie and her ridiculous

0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:17.360
<v Speaker 2>love life but ridiculous romance. Some might even say, what

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:22.400
<v Speaker 2>But now we can finally loop back to Courtney's original

0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Instagram message and the song Whiskey Lullaby that set us

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:29.319
<v Speaker 2>off on this tangent in the first place. Now that

0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 2>we know how Laurie and John's divorce went down, we

0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:36.439
<v Speaker 2>can understand why afterwards John was kind of a wreck. Right.

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, his wife, who'd never even mentioned him in

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:42.440
<v Speaker 2>her autobiography about the loves of her life, right, was

0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 2>off cheating on him with her you know, effectively teenage sweetheart.

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:48.839
<v Speaker 1>She's in hot chicken with someone else.

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Right. So within days of the divorce, John also lost

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:56.960
<v Speaker 2>a record deal and a songwriting contract, according to an

0:55:57.040 --> 0:56:00.760
<v Speaker 2>article on American Songwriter dot com. So things a really

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:04.280
<v Speaker 2>low point in John's life, and he started drinking heavily

0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 2>after this, and he went back to a lot of

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.000
<v Speaker 2>his worst habits. Just having a really hard time and

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 2>seeing him in this state. Apparently, his manager said to

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 2>him quote, hey man, every now and then you got

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:19.160
<v Speaker 2>to put a bottle to your head and pull the trigger.

0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:22.760
<v Speaker 2>And John was like, uh shit, I got to write

0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 2>that down for later, which also like imagine walking in

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 2>on your friend who's like drunk passed out and being like, yeah,

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:36.400
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you gotta do that. I mean, it's not exactly

0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 2>what he needed to hear.

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Especially your manager, should you not be like, hey man,

0:56:41.960 --> 0:56:43.959
<v Speaker 1>let's clean get you cleaned up. You know what I'm saying,

0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Like we'll go on a little sabbatical or something. Get

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:46.879
<v Speaker 1>your head right.

0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:50.360
<v Speaker 2>You wucking guy's face down of the toilet, three whiskey

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:54.200
<v Speaker 2>bottles empty around him, and you're just like, yep, it happens.

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Go on a bender until you.

0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Die there some of us don't come back.

0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Geez, you're a terrible manager, right I Oh. John was like,

0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get any manager who cares if I

0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 1>liver ORed.

0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:07.799
<v Speaker 2>I Well.

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 1>John cleaned himself up, got back to work, and he

0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 1>paired up with songwriter Bill Anderson to try and put

0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 1>a song together. Now Anderson had his own idea for

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a song called Midnight Cigarette.

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, that's country.

0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:22.000
<v Speaker 1>That is that is very country sound. He said, quote

0:57:22.360 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 1>can you imagine a cigarette just sitting on an ash

0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 1>tray at midnight, nobody's smoking it or paying it any attention,

0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and it just burned out. And he kind of likens

0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:34.960
<v Speaker 1>that to a relationship where you don't hit a wall

0:57:35.040 --> 0:57:37.920
<v Speaker 1>or anything. It just sort of goes away, kind of pizzles.

0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:57:38.160 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>We've all had one of them. Yeah, yeah, Like neither

0:57:40.840 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of us are trying to say it, but we both know.

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I had one where we're like never We never really

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:50.840
<v Speaker 2>broke up, just kind of left one day. It was like,

0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 2>all right, I guess I'll wow see you later. And

0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:58.720
<v Speaker 2>so I guess technically I'm still dating that person, babe. Sorry,

0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:00.520
<v Speaker 2>we unbelieve the ball.

0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll text full time.

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll text her and be like, hey, we need to

0:58:03.480 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 2>make this official. You have multiple children, we should break up.

0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:16.360
<v Speaker 1>We should probably break up now. She's like, who is

0:58:16.400 --> 0:58:18.040
<v Speaker 1>this no offense?

0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Damn wow. I actually would take a lot of offense

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:22.480
<v Speaker 2>if she said that to me.

0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:26.800
<v Speaker 1>That would be very upset. So anyway, John loved the

0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 1>idea for this song, and he said, quote, yeah, well

0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I put the bottle to my head and pulled the

0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:35.680
<v Speaker 1>trigger a few times. Oh, And Bill was like, for

0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:39.320
<v Speaker 1>good midnight cigarette. Now that's a line.

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 2>You know who told you that, some supportive friend, I hope.

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:50.480
<v Speaker 1>When they were telling you to get yourself clean. But

0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:53.000
<v Speaker 1>actually both lines ended up going into the song that

0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:57.680
<v Speaker 1>they wrote together, which is Whiskey Lullaby. So y'all, I

0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think we can legally play it for you. I

0:59:00.800 --> 0:59:03.440
<v Speaker 1>do think we can go on down to a poetry

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:06.600
<v Speaker 1>corner and give a read of a few of these

0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:07.880
<v Speaker 1>here lyrics.

0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:10.960
<v Speaker 2>She pooed him out like the burning end of a

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:14.800
<v Speaker 2>midnight cigarette. She broke his heart. He spent his whole

0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:18.080
<v Speaker 2>life trying to forget. We watched him drink his pain

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:21.400
<v Speaker 2>away little at a time, but he never could get

0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 2>drunk enough to get her off his mind until the night.

0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 1>He put that bottle to his head and pulled the

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:33.360
<v Speaker 1>trigger and finally drank away her memory. Life is short,

0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:36.160
<v Speaker 1>but this time it was bigger than the strength he

0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>had to get up off his knees. We found him

0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:42.160
<v Speaker 1>with his face down in the pillow, with a note

0:59:42.160 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that said I'll love her till I die. And when

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 1>we buried him beneath the willow, the angels sang a

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:50.360
<v Speaker 1>whiskey lullaby.

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:57.680
<v Speaker 2>There you have it, folks whiskey lullabye, midnight cigarette, midnight

0:59:57.720 --> 1:00:00.000
<v Speaker 2>cigarette and bottled of his head and pulled the tree,

1:00:00.240 --> 1:00:03.280
<v Speaker 2>which like, oh, it's clever. But the more I hear it,

1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's stupid, that's so rude. I don't mean that.

1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:11.840
<v Speaker 2>It's fine. A lot of people love that song. It's

1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:16.680
<v Speaker 2>a very popular song. Our dear listener, Courtney may Klaus,

1:00:16.720 --> 1:00:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I assume loves that song. She knew it well enough

1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:23.280
<v Speaker 2>to make the link between the willow trees lines. I'll

1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:28.280
<v Speaker 2>tell you. We're obviously history fans, and we love going

1:00:28.320 --> 1:00:32.920
<v Speaker 2>to ancient China and France and you know, getting all

1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:35.400
<v Speaker 2>these medieval love stories and stuff like that. It's a

1:00:35.440 --> 1:00:37.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of fun. So it's nice to dive into something

1:00:37.960 --> 1:00:41.160
<v Speaker 2>that I think we're really truly unfamiliar with once in

1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:43.920
<v Speaker 2>a while, just like the country music scene, despite the

1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:46.160
<v Speaker 2>fact that we kind of I mean, Atlanta's a bit

1:00:46.200 --> 1:00:48.640
<v Speaker 2>of a bubble, but we are certainly surrounded by a

1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:51.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of country music around, yeah, and I think we

1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:54.240
<v Speaker 2>just kind of tune it out generally, So it's cool

1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:57.280
<v Speaker 2>to get into this story and learn a different, different

1:00:57.280 --> 1:01:01.520
<v Speaker 2>part of the world. Oh side note, Senator Fred Thompson

1:01:01.920 --> 1:01:08.440
<v Speaker 2>who Laurie dated is an exact replica of Kelsey Grammar.

1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:11.720
<v Speaker 2>What these guys look? Look him up? Okay, look, I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to google Fred Thompson right now and give

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<v Speaker 2>me your immediate reaction. Oh my god, yeah right. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I'm not the first to say so. If you

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<v Speaker 2>scroll down, there's surely like four pages that show pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like Kelsey Grammer, He's just playing a movie or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually. People also ask why did Fred Thompson leave Law

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<v Speaker 1>and Order? Did he have something?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's a different fred Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. It does say he was an actor, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he was on Law and Order.

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<v Speaker 2>He sure was. In the final months of his US

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<v Speaker 2>Senate term. In two thousand and two, fred Thompson joined

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<v Speaker 2>the cast of Law and Order, Wow, starring as a

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<v Speaker 2>district attorney. Well, anyway, it was a really cool story

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<v Speaker 2>to just stumble across. I love those. Let me look

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<v Speaker 2>up this song. Ah, there's nothing here. Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a little bit here. Oh my god, there's six marriages. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My question is why Mary. I feel like after the

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<v Speaker 1>third or fourth time, I'd be like, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just date for a while, you know, like why

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<v Speaker 1>would you want to tie the net so quick?

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<v Speaker 2>I think for some people, especially older generations, there's this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of idea that like, that's exclusively why you date

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<v Speaker 2>someone is to marry them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>And if after a couple of months things are going well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, all right, well, then things are going well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get married and then we'll have kids together. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's why. Also, I think a lot of people older

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<v Speaker 2>generations who got married a lot of and this came

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<v Speaker 2>from many years of marriage wasn't necessity for comfort, which

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<v Speaker 2>I totally understand. But a lot of people will get

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<v Speaker 2>married quickly and then realize that they're not compatible or

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<v Speaker 2>they don't like each other, because sometimes it takes a

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<v Speaker 2>while to figure that out. So then you got these

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<v Speaker 2>sort of rotten marriages, these grumpy old people who don't

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<v Speaker 2>like each other, or divorce or whatever happen happens, which

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<v Speaker 2>is why, of course we waited eight years before we

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<v Speaker 2>got married, just to be ex sure. But again I

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<v Speaker 2>still feel like that was like holding our noses and

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<v Speaker 2>jumping in so but I think it's so far it's

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<v Speaker 2>worked out pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I guess you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, there is there is something different about

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<v Speaker 1>people's mindset today, I guess about a relationship, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's totally fine too, or we even did Kurt Russell

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<v Speaker 1>and goldiehun who've never chosen to get married, and they've had,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more commitment than Laurie had with many of

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<v Speaker 1>her actual marriages. And as we've seen several people who

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<v Speaker 1>married multiple times, like Ron Shephard what's his name, the

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<v Speaker 1>most married man or whatever? Oh yeah, but anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's funny to have so many failed marriages

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<v Speaker 1>and then just keep doing it. Like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, if it were me, I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, let's just you know what, we're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hold off, Like I don't get married again, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we're together for at least a year or two before

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<v Speaker 1>right thing goes down. Especially with some of them, are

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<v Speaker 1>like there's literally a couple months between it is in

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<v Speaker 1>the divorce and the marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, I'm like, in her heart and mind, when

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<v Speaker 2>you know divorce is a fairly ready option, what is

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<v Speaker 2>the difference between that and just long term dating?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? I mean we're in a committed relationship for two

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<v Speaker 2>years to me, the only difference between that and long

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<v Speaker 2>term dating is that you had a ceremony to say

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<v Speaker 2>we're in this committed relationship and also you said in

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<v Speaker 2>your vows till death do us part or something along

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<v Speaker 2>those lines, and then did not really think that because

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<v Speaker 2>like till death or discomfort or awkwardness or I find

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<v Speaker 2>somebody better, you know. It kind of like yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it's just like you all you did was

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<v Speaker 2>technically all you did was date these people. You just

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<v Speaker 2>made it legally official.

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<v Speaker 1>That, which I guess is the weird party because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like you're in it for their money or something.

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<v Speaker 1>You have all your own shit going on, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually putting your own self in danger by marrying this

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<v Speaker 1>bus driver or this one whoever, And it just seems

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<v Speaker 1>like an odd choice, I guess. But you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>she's happy now, so good for you, Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>And she you know, a life full of adventures and

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<v Speaker 2>for her that was you know, I think she was.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like she was more often happy than not,

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<v Speaker 2>and that she was excited each time that she got

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<v Speaker 2>into one of these relationships. They she usually dated people

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<v Speaker 2>for a fairly long time slash married them for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years at least. It wasn't like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bouncing one of the next all the time. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. It's certainly not my cup of tea. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was only anyone was happy to

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<v Speaker 2>get divorced so many times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm not trying to say she should stay

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<v Speaker 1>with someone she didn't get into. I must rather be

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<v Speaker 1>a multiple divorce than be married to the wrong person.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but pump the brakes on getting married.

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<v Speaker 1>But the marriage exactly just like just hang on on

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<v Speaker 1>that part.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I am very glad that we got

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<v Speaker 1>this message from Courtney May because this was a fun,

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<v Speaker 1>like a kind of clib messy dramas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a little bit of tabloid episode, which we don't

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<v Speaker 2>get to do too often.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, But as you say in the country music world,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very unknown.

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<v Speaker 2>To men, also just goes to show that any message

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<v Speaker 2>you send us could turn into something very valuable. So please.

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<v Speaker 1>You might not even think so if you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like man, I have the dumbest thought about their episode,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't you know what, they won't even care.

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<v Speaker 2>We will, we will. It might change our lives forever,

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<v Speaker 2>So please.

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<v Speaker 1>We might talk about it for an hour and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So do please send us your thoughts, your feelings,

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<v Speaker 2>your ideas, anything that might have crossed your mind while

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<v Speaker 2>you were listening to this episode. Tell us if you've

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<v Speaker 2>been married and divorced several times and sort of how

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<v Speaker 2>you know your take on everything we've been talking about here.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're absolutely have no idea what we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>or if we're spot on, you know, I love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear it. Either way, shoot us an email at ridic

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