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Speaker 1: That's your very white impression, very white, very white wishes,

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much, Courtney, because from that little

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Speaker 1: Let's get on this horse and rat hey their friends

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Speaker 1: There's no matchmaking o romantic tips. It's just about ridiculous relationships.

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Speaker 1: There might be any type of person at all, an

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Speaker 2: All right. Lori Morgan. She was born in nineteen fifty nine.

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Speaker 1: I want to slip brown mastruck. Oh, And of course

436
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: Laurie could smell the alcohol on him, even if he

437
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: didn't sound like I just sounded just smell it. So

438
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: she flipped out about this because of course we already

439
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: know she has a bad history of people who were alcoholics. Yeah,

440
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: she was also already stressed out. She had some bad

441
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 1: money problems and even worse health problems because after a

442
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: few weeks of having like constant pain in her abdomen,

443
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: Laurie discovered that she had endometriosis.

444
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Her doctors recommended that she have surgery to

445
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: have the cysts on her ovaries removed, but while she

446
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: was on the operating table, the surgeons decided that it

447
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 2: would be best for her to have a full hysterectomy.

448
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: Since she was under of course, she could not decide

449
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: or consent to this, but her husband could, so it

450
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: was up to Brad. The doctors went to him and

451
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: were like, Hey, should we should give your wife a hysterectomy?

452
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: You in or you out?

453
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, sign here or whatever.

454
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: I mean, Like, I can't imagine that's a fun choice

455
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: for Brad either, not because he's got to not only

456
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: if he ever cares about having kids with her, you know,

457
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: that's something he has to consider. And also, oh, I'm

458
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 2: making this huge life changing decision for you, but also

459
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: it might it's medically necessary and you might have to

460
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 2: go into surgery again later. Nobody wants to do it twice.

461
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: No, there's really this feels like a situation where there's

462
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: no way to be right yeah or do a good

463
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: yeah for real. I feel like either way you can

464
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: get in a lot of well.

465
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: He decided that they should go for it, and so

466
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 2: she didn't even find out that she'd had her uterus

467
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: removed until she woke up from the operation. She wrote

468
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 2: that she was depressed when she found out that she

469
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: wouldn't have any more kids, but ultimately she's, you know,

470
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: a very religious person. She said, it's it's God's will.

471
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. Plus, of course, she was not

472
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: so sure that things were going to work out with Brad,

473
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: and she thought maybe having another kid with him would

474
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 2: have been a bad move anyway, and sure enough, she

475
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 2: filed for divorce from Brad in nineteen ninety three, less

476
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: than two years after they got married. She said she

477
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: basically never saw or heard from him again, although reports

478
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 2: say that in their divorce, Laurie gave Brad sixty five

479
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: thousand dollars and a pickup truck, which also sounds like

480
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: a country song making sure does I got sixty five

481
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, ain't a pickup truck in my divorce? And

482
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: now I'm going on to eat a pie.

483
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I thought it was gonna be something about

484
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: like and and a pickup truck. And now all see

485
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: is you in my rear view?

486
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: Oh see that's pretty good. Now we got something. Somebody

487
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 2: call up John Randalls. This nice. So Brad got the

488
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: sixty five K the pickup truck. Apparently, she also gave

489
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 2: him back all his possessions, which included a photo of

490
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: him that said World's greatest bus driver. Sure I would

491
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: brought that back too. I also would find no reason

492
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: to keep that if in the divorce, I don't need this,

493
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: you can have Yes, you can have your weird picture back.

494
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: Well. Now, before Laurie's divorce with Brad was finalized and

495
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: he had his pickup treck, she was dating the Dallas

496
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys quarterback Troy Aikman.

497
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: Oooh do you know Troy Aikman.

498
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: Not at all? Oh man less than Clint Black. Do

499
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: I know Troy aiks Wow?

500
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I was. You know, I was never

501
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: a big football fan, but when I was a kid,

502
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: you know, early nineties, Stephanie, Troy Aikman was a huge name.

503
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: It was like him, Dan Marino, Oj Simpson, all of

504
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: them turned out great.

505
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: Out fantastic, still making headlines.

506
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: Because well, that's for sure, some more than others.

507
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: Right. I think the only name in the nineties that

508
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: I knew related to sports was Dave Justice and Chipper

509
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: Jones because the nineteen ninety six Braves won the World Series.

510
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. Yeah, I wasn't in Atlanta yet.

511
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know Chipper Jones to he moved down here,

512
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: but I never knew Dave Justice. Dave Justice and Chipper

513
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: jas also sounds like a country song to me. Old

514
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: ages to say, Chipper Jones going down Lanta and they're

515
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: entering your homes. I don't know they're entering their own.

516
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: I think I said your homes.

517
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: Why are they coming to my house? It sounds kind

518
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: of scary, like funny games like Justice and they're entering

519
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: your homes causing psychological damage?

520
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: Wow? I thought maybe they were just like signing baseball's

521
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: or something. Why are they negative? Right away?

522
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: I really start therapy again, Really, ship, I should look

523
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: into this. Why is like the first thing I saw,

524
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: I was like, they're trying to murder me? All right,

525
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, it's like a nice make a wish

526
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: type is it?

527
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: But and then you go said, I'm just like they're

528
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: coming into sign baseballs and you're like, it's my last wish. Wow,

529
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: you're so.

530
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: Right, it's so naked psychological damage. Well for another podcast.

531
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: Get a Better Help sponsorship over here.

532
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: We'll start another struggle what the fuck is wrong with Diana?

533
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: And it'll just be me to asking better Help what's

534
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: wrong with me? And it'll be like, you know what, girl, great.

535
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: Question at a ringing endorsement, Better Help. I think we

536
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: just lost our sponsorship.

537
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: Like, I just want to try to say it's better Help.

538
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: Can't just tell you what's wrong with you. You got

539
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: to do the work. I think Better Help would agree

540
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: with me. Oh sorry, I'm feeling so silly today.

541
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: Wrong with that?

542
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: All right? So whatever Laurie was dating, the well known

543
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: everyone knows about him was quarterback Troy Aikman. At first,

544
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: she was very disinterested when her friend was trying to

545
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: match her up with Troy. But he was very handsome

546
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: and successful and he did not have a drinking problem.

547
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: Check check check.

548
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: So they started dating. But it was a lot tabloids,

549
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: gossip magazines, morning news. She couldn't even go to the

550
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: supermarket without it being a big deal. You know, they're

551
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 1: like stars, Y're just like us. They eat food, you know.

552
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: And so this was a level of fame that Laurie

553
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: really didn't get as a country music star.

554
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: Right.

555
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: Also a big problem with them was that Troy wanted kids,

556
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: and he was eight years younger than Laurie was. So

557
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: he's dating an older woman who had two children already,

558
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: who also definitely could not have any more children. That

559
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: was really tough for him, and Laurie wrote quote, I

560
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: couldn't blame him for that. That's a big hurdle for

561
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: a man in his mid twenties. So they broke up

562
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: amicably less than a year later.

563
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: Right, So Laurie's single. Now she's killing it professionally, She's

564
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: playing on TV. She's doing huge concerts alongside big names.

565
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: She was on the soundtrack for the Beverly Hillbillies movie,

566
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: which had like Dolly Parton and Willie Nelson, like a

567
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: lot of big names. She also put out a Christmas

568
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: album that had her doing duets with Andy Williams, Johnny Mathis,

569
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: and Tammy Wynette. She even starred in a TV pilot

570
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: about a country music singing detective called Laura Lei Lee.

571
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: The show was not picked up for a series, and

572
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: I'm half wondering if it's not just because people couldn't

573
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: pronounce Laura Lei. Lee reminds me of the rural drove

574
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: Laurelie Lee. Have you seen it? You sound drunk when

575
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: you talk about it.

576
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: Loy also a country music the Tectics kind of Philly.

577
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Maybe maybe they do a song

578
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: after every U, or they do the song and they

579
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: reveal the culprit.

580
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, in the lyrics they're like, turns out David

581
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: Justice and Jibber Jones had come down to Atlanta. They

582
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: were entering homes.

583
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: I knew the crime all the time.

584
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: Suspicious. You were right to be suspicious of everything.

585
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: Yes, never trust your fellow man.

586
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: Wow in the caston all right. Well, after dating Troy Aikman,

587
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: Laurie went in a different direction, and in nineteen ninety

588
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: four she started dating US Senator Fred Thompson of Tennessee. Wow.

589
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: So she's had a bassist, a bus driver, a footballball star,

590
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: and a country music thing of course, and then now

591
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: a senator.

592
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

593
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: She really does do be trying style.

594
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said in her autobiography Forever Yours Faithfully My

595
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: Love Story that Fred was great. He is so great.

596
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: Even his ex wife still liked him. She said that

597
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: she liked dating older, successful man and she felt very

598
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: secure with him. He also was very kind to her.

599
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: He pushed her to feel more confident about her talents

600
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: and her music and everything. He lavished her with gifts.

601
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: Obviously a very wealthy man because he's a Southern senator.

602
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: And Fred was even mulling a presidential run at that point,

603
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: and Laurie wrote quote, I would be sitting at a

604
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: glamorous party and have the flickering thought, so this is

605
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: what it's like to be a first lady. Hell. I

606
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: could handle that. Then I would say, oops, better drop

607
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: the hell. Beautiful country singers and they're just have you know,

608
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: foul mouth, they got no hesitation occurs in stuff.

609
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: You know. I'm into that. But yeah, Laurie thought dating

610
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: a politician was too stifling. Sure, She wrote quote, I

611
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: cannot express myself as a pungent, pithy country singer. I

612
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: began to feel programmed to smile and be well political.

613
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: I put myself to the task could be in a

614
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: great companion to a stimulating and important man, and as

615
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: a result, I became boring. I mean right there, She

616
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: had to drop the hell. Yeah, right, so that makes sense. Yeah,

617
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: she said. She felt like everything she said she had

618
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: to think about the political implications. She couldn't really be herself.

619
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: And just like when she dated Troy Aikman, every time

620
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: she went out in public, it was tabloids and TV

621
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: analyzing everything she wore, every facial expression she made, which

622
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I feel like dating a

623
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: senator is not all the way to get out of

624
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: the public eye.

625
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: Right right, the worst direction even worse, right, she said.

626
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: I used to think I better drop the hell. Then

627
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: I realized I better drop the hell out of this relationship.

628
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: I dropped the hymn instead. Shortly after they broke up,

629
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: she started dating another country singer and songwriter named John Randall.

630
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: John Randall the co writer of the song A Whiskey Lullaby.

631
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: We got him, We made it to everybody clap. So

632
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six they got married, same year she

633
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: broke up with the senator. Yeah, so just a quickie,

634
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: quick turnaround for ol Laurie. A year later, she published

635
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: her autobiography that we mentioned earlier, Forever Yours Faithfully My

636
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: Love Story.

637
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so she's married and she puts out this

638
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: autobiography titled My Love Story. Well Entertainment Weekly gave the

639
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: book a C, saying quote Morgan offers unsavory new details

640
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: about Keith Whitley's last days and dishes the skinny on

641
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: dating Troy Aikman and Senator Fred Thompson, but she doesn't

642
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: do much soul searching about the four marriages she's racked

643
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: up by age thirty eight, and when she fails to

644
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: even mention her current spouse, singer John Randall, you can't

645
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: help but size him up as a future ex husband.

646
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: Oo out.

647
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: I think that's insane for someone to publish an autobiography

648
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: called Forever Yours Faithfully My Love Story and not mentioned

649
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: their current spouse.

650
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: I mean that is pretty crazy.

651
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: A little prescient maybe.

652
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: Though I don't love the judgment that I'm hearing in

653
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: not much soul searching about the four marriages she's racked

654
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: up by age thirty eight. Yeah, now, Laurie, I don't

655
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: think that she's necessarily the steadiest like partner everything, but

656
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: one of them died.

657
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: You know.

658
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: It's not like she's trying to jump from man to

659
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: man or something. There's just there's it's smacks of a

660
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: judgment that I don't love.

661
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally get that.

662
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: I just wonder, you know, I have to wonder if

663
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: if it was a man who had racked up four

664
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: marriage that they would even mention it. You know, it

665
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: would just be like some dude doing his thing. Yeah,

666
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: I don't like. I just don't. I don't see them

667
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: being like he needs to really think about what he's doing.

668
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: It's never like that.

669
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 2: No, you're right, I don't know. And to be fair.

670
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: On page two hundred and eighty seven out of three

671
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: hundred and one, so fourteen pages before the end, she

672
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: does mention John Randall once. Oh I am Yeah, she

673
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: does say I married a country singer name John Randall,

674
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: and it must have been really hard for him to

675
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: see me writing about all my ex husbands all the time.

676
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: That's it. That's the only mention of him. She didn't

677
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: like go in and add a chapter about like, but

678
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: I finally found the love of my life and I'm

679
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: so excited that that was not in there.

680
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: You think John read it and was like, okay, am

681
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: I kicking up what you're putting down?

682
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: Is there a sequel you're planning or Because it says

683
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: my love story and I ain't in it.

684
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm not in it, so I guess it's not my

685
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: love story.

686
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: It says forever yours faithfully, and it's not to me

687
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 2: your husband. So that's interesting. Now.

688
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: I will say, in defense of their smack of judgment,

689
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: that it is funny to call your book forever Yours faithfully,

690
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: and then we talk about all these different.

691
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: Men, right right. I do think that mostly refers to Keith,

692
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: because she's like, he died and a lot of it

693
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: was about her dealing with his death, which I understand.

694
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, it is kind of like I love story.

695
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 2: But you know who doesn't factor into my love story

696
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: at all? My current husband, a guy.

697
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: Who's ring I'm wearing well. In December of nineteen ninety six,

698
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: just a month after their wedding, Laurie and her new husband,

699
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: John performed together on the Grand Ole Opry, singing a

700
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: duet of the song by My Side. In nineteen ninety seven,

701
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: Laurie performed the National Anthem at the Daytona five hundred,

702
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: which was historic because it was also Jeff Gordon's first

703
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: Daytona win.

704
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: Look get that.

705
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: She also sang let It Snow at the White House

706
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: Christmas tree lighting. Oh and in nineteen ninety eight, tabloids

707
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: claimed she had quote a wild ride in the backseat

708
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: of a limousine with President Bill Clinton.

709
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: Oh scandalous.

710
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: The Laurie angrily refuted this story. She said her only

711
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: interaction with Bill Clinton was in public for the tree lighting.

712
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: Uh huh, but of course makes sense to be like,

713
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: you know, our our swingin' playboy president.

714
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Bill Clinton said in January of ninety eight,

715
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, so

716
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: talking about Monica Lewinsky, of course, so this had have

717
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: been right. So if he was fooling around with more

718
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: than one woman, as men who fool around with other

719
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: women often.

720
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Do, very true.

721
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: I'm just look, I will totally take Laurie's word for this,

722
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: but there's a part of my brain she can't convince

723
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: that something didn't happen. His little little part of the

724
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: tabloid stuck in my head. That's how they make their money.

725
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: I just love thinking that an actual wild night with

726
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton would be like he pulls out the sacks

727
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: and he's like it's time there whispers whatever, and she's

728
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: in the back of limousine like hanging out the sun roof.

729
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 2: He's got fucking Baker Street blasted. Yes, she's like too wow.

730
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: Also a side note, just a little happy story. A

731
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: month after that, in April, on Interstate sixty five in Nashville,

732
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: two dogs got loose on the highway and drivers had

733
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: to like hit the brakes to avoid them, and it

734
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: caused a huge backup that Laurie's tour bus got stuck in.

735
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: So Laurie Morgan got out of her bus, walked across

736
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: the highway and rescued the two dogs. Aw Hey, Lourie.

737
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: She showed up late for her rehearsal covered in mud.

738
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: Oh worth it well. Later that year, Laurie recorded a

739
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: duet with a country singer that she knew way back when,

740
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: and he had become quite famous himself. His name was

741
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: Sammy Kershaw. And if you remember back when she was

742
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: touring with George Jones when she was twenty years old,

743
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: she had a little flaying with young Sammy Kershaw before

744
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: she ended up marrying the bassist Ron Gaddis Right. Well,

745
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: turns out the spark was still alive between Laurie and Sammy,

746
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 2: who was also very married. EU it's gonna get messy

747
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: in here. So before we get to her fifth marriage,

748
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: let's take a quick break. Prepare for all this drama

749
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: and see I would eventually lead to the song that

750
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: Courtney originally sent us, Whiskey Lullaby. Find out how right

751
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: after this, Well, going back, y'all to the show, Jipper

752
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 2: joneses here and he's coming in your door. Oh my god,

753
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 2: get away from this song. It's so fun.

754
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm terrified of Chipper Jones showing up of my door.

755
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: So it's the late nineties. Country music star Laurie Morgan

756
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: is married to another country singer and songwriter, John Randall.

757
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: Now the big picture of what happened next is totally true,

758
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: but the little details are from some tabloids.

759
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so we'll try to.

760
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: Differentiate for you. Yeah, you can take the tabloid stuff

761
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: with the large grain of salt.

762
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: Sure.

763
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: So, according to Star Magazine in nineteen ninety eight, Laurie

764
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: was recording a duet with another country star, Sammy Kershaw.

765
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: Now we know Sammy and Laurie had that flaying when

766
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: they were both touring with George Jones back in seventy nine,

767
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: but she ended up marrying the bassist. Well, Sammy and

768
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: Laurie crossed paths a lot over the years, and they

769
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: kept in touch a little. But The Star says that

770
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: during these recording sessions they were quote flirting heavily, and

771
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: they were also going to each other's concerts. They even

772
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: did a few duets outside the studio.

773
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: Oh that's the Star, Okay, a little honkey tonk in

774
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: the bedroom there, Okay, okay. Now. The Star also says

775
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: that John Randall started hearing these rumors, and, according to

776
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: a friend, quote he started calling Sammy's band members asking

777
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: what's going on with my wife and Sammy?

778
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: Yikes.

779
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: Well they must have given him some detailed answers, because

780
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: on August eighth of nineteen ninety nine, the Tennesseean reported

781
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: that John Randall and Laurie Morgan were getting a divorce. Meanwhile,

782
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: Sammy Kershaw's wife, Kim, whom he had been married to

783
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: for fourteen years and had two daughters with, was none

784
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: too happy when news got back to her that her

785
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: husband had been fooling around with his long lost sweetheart.

786
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: On November ninth of nineteen ninety nine, she filed for

787
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: divorce from Sammy in Nashville, citing irreconcilable differences. So that's

788
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: you know, the divorce filings in both cases were true.

789
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: We don't know if, like, you know, all those about

790
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: all the rumors getting back to them and their angry

791
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: responses and all this stuff that's kind of being filled

792
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: in by the tabloids. But you know, some tabloid stuff

793
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: is true.

794
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: Something I don't know is something.

795
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: Also, according to The Star, Sammy and Kim actually had

796
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: had a great marriage. They had both been married a

797
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: couple times before, and they had both had troubles with

798
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: drugs and alcohol in their previous relationships. So now, after

799
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: fourteen years of marriage and two kids, they both really

800
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: felt like they'd settled down, their crazy days were behind them.

801
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: But then Laurie walked back into Sammy's life and everything changed,

802
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: and Kim allegedly was pissed.

803
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: So Kim went after Sammy hard in the divorce, and

804
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: we did find a few details of their divorce proceedings

805
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: on rolandnote dot COM's country music database. So on day

806
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: one of their divorce trial, Kim accused Sammy of adultery

807
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: with Laurie Morgan. He fired back and said that she

808
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: had had an affair where a used car sales. What Then,

809
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: on day two, it was revealed that Sammy Kershaw had

810
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: paid fifty thousand dollars to settle a sexual harassment lawsuit

811
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety seven. Oh man, we cannot find

812
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: any more info about that.

813
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: And I know it was like trying so hard, but

814
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: it's the only record of that.

815
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you settle part of.

816
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: That is the whole point is like cleaning my soft

817
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 2: quiet Yeah.

818
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: My record and stuff. So anyway, so this trial just

819
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: went on for weeks, and they were a little bombshells

820
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: being dropped and thrown by each each of them and everything.

821
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: But during their divorce trial, it seems like Laurie and

822
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: John was it have a more of a quick and

823
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: clean process. CMT dot com said, quote Morgan will keep

824
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: all her own assets and Randall will keep his. The

825
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: two have reportedly stated that they will remain friends and

826
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: possibly work together in the future. Though it sounds like,

827
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, he's all right, buye you like famy whatever.

828
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: So by week three of Sammy and Kim's divorce trial,

829
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: he had accused Kim of excessive spending, saying that she

830
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: logged one hundred and eighty two thousand dollars in personal

831
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 2: expenses in nineteen ninety nine. Well damn, but Sammy could

832
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: throw whatever accusations he wanted at Kim and just nothing

833
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: was sticking, probably partly because even during their divorce trial,

834
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: Sammy and Laurie were not even trying to be discreet

835
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: about their relationship together. Laurie even opened a restaurant called

836
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: Laurie Morgan's Spicy Hot Chicken Coop, which had Sammy Kershaw's

837
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: potato salad on the menu.

838
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

839
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: At one point, Kim Kershaw dropped this bombshell on the court.

840
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: She testified that Laurie Morgan admitted to her that she

841
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 2: had an affair with Sammy back in nineteen ninety three. Now,

842
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: Sammy would have been still married to Kim at that

843
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: point because they got married in the mid eighties. But

844
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: if we play back the tape from earlier in this podcast,

845
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: we know that in nineteen ninety three, Laurie was feeling

846
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: unhappy with her bus driver husband, Brad Thompson, and divorced

847
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: him for sixty five thousand dollars and a pickup truck.

848
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: So maybe that affair had something to do with what

849
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: ultimately broke up Laurie and Brad or came about because

850
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: Laurie and Brad were already on the rocks, right, but

851
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: either way kind of adds a new piece of info

852
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 2: to that story.

853
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: Very true.

854
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: Well.

855
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: In April of two thousand and one, Sammy and Kim

856
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: Kershaw's divorce was finalized. The judge head zero sympathy for

857
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: sam He's like you are wild annowed Sammy, So he

858
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: was ordered to pay thirty five thousand dollars for Kim's

859
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: legal fees, four thousand dollars a month in alimony, and

860
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: six thousand, five hundred dollars a month in child support.

861
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: Right.

862
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: Kim also received primary custody of the kids, and the

863
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: judge said, quote.

864
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 5: Mister Kershaw's marital misconduct has been open and notorious, with

865
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 5: absolutely no discretion being used to protect his wife and

866
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 5: children from information concerning his affair.

867
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: With Miss Lori Morgan.

868
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: Sorry, I love this Tennessee judge. Should I give more

869
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: this Sam Eagle from Tennessee? Oh no, it's.

870
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: A powdered wig that he puts on to make his judgment.

871
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: Country Bumpkins.

872
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: He was sent there as from the city.

873
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 2: From the city for being for being two by the book,

874
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: he couldn't he couldn't work with the mobsters that were

875
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: running you know, the city Seattle, where he had previously

876
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: been a judge, and they were like, I'm sending you

877
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: to Nashville. Like, no, fine, I'll bring my brand of

878
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: justice to Nashville. Let's see how it works down there.

879
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: Call me barrister.

880
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: That British.

881
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: Well, anyway, you might wonder, you know, did Sammy take

882
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: that to heart, this judge being like hella judgmental?

883
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: He was, maybe like judgmental.

884
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: That judge really pegged me I should maybe act a

885
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: little more discretion and humility, maybe act like a gentleman. Nope,

886
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: because eleven days after the divorce was finalized, he and

887
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: Laurie went on Live with Regis and Kelly to announce

888
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: their engagement. I swear they are like why people to

889
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: get mad at them?

890
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: Right, Like it's not even like, well they got engaged.

891
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: Eleven days later, they went on the biggest live morning

892
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: talk show in the world to tell literally everyone, they will, yes,

893
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: screw our previous marriages. We're starting this one now.

894
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: First it was chicken and potato salad. Now it's heart

895
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: and soul. So on September twenty ninth, two thousand and one,

896
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: they got married in Nashville.

897
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: Now on Larry King, Laurie did an interview and she said,

898
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 2: quote from the first time I met Sammy, there was

899
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 2: a traction there. Nothing happened, and some twenty years later

900
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: we were both in marriages and we decided to get

901
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: out of those marriages to pursue the love that we

902
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: felt for each other. It was tough on our family,

903
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: our children and our fans. But you know, you only

904
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: live once, which I mean, you know, there's something to that,

905
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: and sort of like, why am I, for the sake

906
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: of etiquette gonna delay the thing that brings me happiness?

907
00:48:59,320 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: Right?

908
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: Something there? But also you got to consider who you

909
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: are hurting, right, and you can't always just pursue the

910
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: thing that you want the most deeply when you've got

911
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 2: to consider other people's feelings and well being as well.

912
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: But you know, well, and this might be where you know,

913
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: you want some of that self analysis to come in,

914
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: get her to think to herself, you know, my heart

915
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: is a little fickle. Yeah, maybe I don't need to

916
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: marry every man. We could just stay for a.

917
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: While and maybe you know, when there's when I'm married

918
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: to someone and I'm attracted to someone else, I sort

919
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: of ride that out, you know, and try to get

920
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: through it and see what's going on with Yeah, I mean,

921
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: who knows what was going on?

922
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: Mind or heart hurt wants what it wants and so on.

923
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: But a year into the marriage, things apparently got a

924
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: little rocky again. That fickle heart reared its head because

925
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: Laurie and Sammy had both filed restraining orders against each other.

926
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: She told Larry King in this interview, which was after

927
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: or they'd reconciled, that this had come from pressure from

928
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: outside forces who quote didn't want us to succeed. They

929
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: were being played against each other by either people who

930
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: you know, who were angry about how their previous divorces

931
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: went down, or by the tabloids who were seeking drama.

932
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: She said, quote we fell for it. We took it

933
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: out on each other, and one fight led to another

934
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: and it became extremely, extremely violent. It was very uncalled for.

935
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: Of this violence. Can only find out that in court.

936
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 2: Sammy is the one who claimed that Laurie assaulted him.

937
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 2: But she did say that neither of them were doing

938
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: any drugs or drinking. She said, neither of them do

939
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 2: because they both had bad histories with it. It was

940
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: just a lot of built up frustration and hot heads

941
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 2: and you know, tempers and all that. But when she

942
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: came back later to pack up some of her stuff,

943
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: you know, they saw each other. They started to talk.

944
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: They realized that they had already gone through so much

945
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: drama just to be together, that they must really matter

946
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 2: to each other and they should try and work this out.

947
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 2: So they talked for a while and it seemed like

948
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: things were going to be okay, okay.

949
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: But even though they were later seen acting quote unquote

950
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: lovey dovey, I guess there were a lot of PDA

951
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: going on in Hot Chicken, Cooper.

952
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: Probably trying to undo all those tabloid headlines.

953
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, even so they had problem. Yeah, in

954
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, the Hot Chicken restaurant closed, you

955
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: know seven Sammy filed for bankruptcy, and later that year

956
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: he announced his candidacy as a Republican for Lieutenant governor

957
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 1: of Louisiana. Oh and we know, LORI, you know, don't

958
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: like Dayton politicians.

959
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: Right, you know, nice like I tried that.

960
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: By the way, he lost. Yeah, he did not win

961
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: that win.

962
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: Also weird that he like declared bankruptcy and was like

963
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: I know how to get back on my feet with

964
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: money run for politics, which just kind of shows you

965
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: what her political run will do for your financial situation.

966
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: That's true, But I was about to say, it's very

967
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: expensive to run a president right, I mean, not even presidential,

968
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: any any office. A race for any office is pretty pricey. Yeah,

969
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: so it's like you kind of have to have some

970
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: of your own money too.

971
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: Well, that's one thinking is this was a play against

972
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: the system. This is one of those like I'm a

973
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 2: declare bankruptcy so that I have I can debt free

974
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: run for office, and in running for office, I can

975
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: raise money, I can sell books, whatever it is he did,

976
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: because a lot of people walk away from a run

977
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 2: with more money than they started with, despite having spent

978
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: millions of dollars on the run. There's a big problem

979
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 2: with money in the political system, is all I'm saying here.

980
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: You're so right. So on top of all that, even

981
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: their respective crowds couldn't get along because Lori said she

982
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: was quote unquote laid back music, kind of like Tammy Wynette,

983
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: you know, in that vein. Sammy meanwhile, was more like

984
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: southern rock, like a Leonard Skinnard. Okay, so they're like,

985
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: we can't even tour together because their fans didn't mix,

986
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: they didn't share interest in the others music or whatever.

987
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: So it was just a lot of problems like that,

988
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: and in August of that year, Sammy and Laurie legally separated.

989
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: By October, LORII filed for divorce. The next year, some

990
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: trust sued Laurie Morgan for three hundred and twenty seven

991
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in unpaid debt, So then she filed for

992
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: bankruptcy in two thousand and eight, citing between one and

993
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: ten million dollars in debt, which it's like, that's a

994
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: huge disparity.

995
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 2: There's a big difference between one and two million dollars.

996
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: In fact, there's a million dollar difference between those two numbers.

997
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: I think, I see what your problem is is that

998
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: you don't be tracked.

999
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: She's like, I don't know, one million, ten million, it's

1000
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: all the same.

1001
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: No, it isn't it's it's not the same very much,

1002
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: not so big shock. Laurie was never good with money.

1003
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: She told the Boot in twenty sixteen that her bankruptcy

1004
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: was because, quote, she didn't watch her own money or

1005
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: audit her accountant, right that is a trap.

1006
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: And if you're so rich that you.

1007
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: Have so many people looking after your money, yeah, look

1008
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: after them right.

1009
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: That was a comment in one of these articles too,

1010
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: that it's like this is not uncommon for celebrities who

1011
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: suddenly have a lot of money and don't really know

1012
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: how to handle it. So they have people do and

1013
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: they just assume all their bills are getting paid. They

1014
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: just assume everything's being handled and then they get a

1015
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: letter one day that's like, hey, it hadn't been handled.

1016
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: Right, look at Shakira, right?

1017
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: Was not?

1018
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: Her argument was that her tax people were doing her taxes.

1019
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's pretty much. The most ridiculous of Lori

1020
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: Morgan's love life is those those first five husbands number five,

1021
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: especially that whole just tabloid drama, divorce, cheating everything. Afterwards,

1022
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: she did get married one more time to Randy White,

1023
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: a businessman. That was in twenty ten, and they seem

1024
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 2: to still be married happily today. Oh yeah, she's got

1025
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: an active Facebook page where she almost exclusively posts dog memes,

1026
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 2: but she does have pictures of the two of them

1027
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: on a beach and stuff, and you know, seeming to

1028
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: be doing okay, I guess she does little tours. She

1029
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 2: was like, I'm playing this music hall and Niagara Falls

1030
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I guess she's still playing

1031
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: a little bit. So that's that's Laurie and her ridiculous

1032
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: love life but ridiculous romance. Some might even say, what

1033
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 2: But now we can finally loop back to Courtney's original

1034
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 2: Instagram message and the song Whiskey Lullaby that set us

1035
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: off on this tangent in the first place. Now that

1036
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: we know how Laurie and John's divorce went down, we

1037
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 2: can understand why afterwards John was kind of a wreck. Right.

1038
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: I mean, his wife, who'd never even mentioned him in

1039
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: her autobiography about the loves of her life, right, was

1040
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: off cheating on him with her you know, effectively teenage sweetheart.

1041
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: She's in hot chicken with someone else.

1042
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 2: Right. So within days of the divorce, John also lost

1043
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: a record deal and a songwriting contract, according to an

1044
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 2: article on American Songwriter dot com. So things a really

1045
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 2: low point in John's life, and he started drinking heavily

1046
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: after this, and he went back to a lot of

1047
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: his worst habits. Just having a really hard time and

1048
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: seeing him in this state. Apparently, his manager said to

1049
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: him quote, hey man, every now and then you got

1050
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: to put a bottle to your head and pull the trigger.

1051
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 2: And John was like, uh shit, I got to write

1052
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: that down for later, which also like imagine walking in

1053
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: on your friend who's like drunk passed out and being like, yeah,

1054
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta do that. I mean, it's not exactly

1055
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: what he needed to hear.

1056
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: Especially your manager, should you not be like, hey man,

1057
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,959
Speaker 1: let's clean get you cleaned up. You know what I'm saying,

1058
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: Like we'll go on a little sabbatical or something. Get

1059
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: your head right.

1060
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: You wucking guy's face down of the toilet, three whiskey

1061
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: bottles empty around him, and you're just like, yep, it happens.

1062
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: Go on a bender until you.

1063
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: Die there some of us don't come back.

1064
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: Geez, you're a terrible manager, right I Oh. John was like,

1065
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to get any manager who cares if I

1066
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: liver ORed.

1067
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 2: I Well.

1068
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: John cleaned himself up, got back to work, and he

1069
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: paired up with songwriter Bill Anderson to try and put

1070
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: a song together. Now Anderson had his own idea for

1071
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: a song called Midnight Cigarette.

1072
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's country.

1073
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: That is that is very country sound. He said, quote

1074
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: can you imagine a cigarette just sitting on an ash

1075
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: tray at midnight, nobody's smoking it or paying it any attention,

1076
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: and it just burned out. And he kind of likens

1077
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: that to a relationship where you don't hit a wall

1078
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: or anything. It just sort of goes away, kind of pizzles.

1079
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: Right.

1080
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: We've all had one of them. Yeah, yeah, Like neither

1081
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: of us are trying to say it, but we both know.

1082
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 2: I had one where we're like never We never really

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Speaker 2: broke up, just kind of left one day. It was like,

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Speaker 2: all right, I guess I'll wow see you later. And

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00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: so I guess technically I'm still dating that person, babe. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: we unbelieve the ball.

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Speaker 1: I'll text full time.

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00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: I'll text her and be like, hey, we need to

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Speaker 2: make this official. You have multiple children, we should break up.

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Speaker 1: We should probably break up now. She's like, who is

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Speaker 1: this no offense?

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Speaker 2: Damn wow. I actually would take a lot of offense

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00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: if she said that to me.

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00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: That would be very upset. So anyway, John loved the

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00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: idea for this song, and he said, quote, yeah, well

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00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: I put the bottle to my head and pulled the

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Speaker 1: trigger a few times. Oh, And Bill was like, for

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Speaker 1: good midnight cigarette. Now that's a line.

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Speaker 2: You know who told you that, some supportive friend, I hope.

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Speaker 1: When they were telling you to get yourself clean. But

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Speaker 1: actually both lines ended up going into the song that

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Speaker 1: they wrote together, which is Whiskey Lullaby. So y'all, I

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00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: don't think we can legally play it for you. I

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00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: do think we can go on down to a poetry

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Speaker 1: corner and give a read of a few of these

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Speaker 1: here lyrics.

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Speaker 2: She pooed him out like the burning end of a

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00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: midnight cigarette. She broke his heart. He spent his whole

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00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: life trying to forget. We watched him drink his pain

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00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: away little at a time, but he never could get

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00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: drunk enough to get her off his mind until the night.

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Speaker 1: He put that bottle to his head and pulled the

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00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: trigger and finally drank away her memory. Life is short,

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00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: but this time it was bigger than the strength he

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00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: had to get up off his knees. We found him

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Speaker 1: with his face down in the pillow, with a note

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00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: that said I'll love her till I die. And when

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Speaker 1: we buried him beneath the willow, the angels sang a

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Speaker 1: whiskey lullaby.

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Speaker 2: There you have it, folks whiskey lullabye, midnight cigarette, midnight

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00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: cigarette and bottled of his head and pulled the tree,

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01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: which like, oh, it's clever. But the more I hear it,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's stupid, that's so rude. I don't mean that.

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Speaker 2: It's fine. A lot of people love that song. It's

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Speaker 2: a very popular song. Our dear listener, Courtney may Klaus,

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01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: I assume loves that song. She knew it well enough

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Speaker 2: to make the link between the willow trees lines. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you. We're obviously history fans, and we love going

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Speaker 2: to ancient China and France and you know, getting all

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01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: these medieval love stories and stuff like that. It's a

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01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: lot of fun. So it's nice to dive into something

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01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: that I think we're really truly unfamiliar with once in

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01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: a while, just like the country music scene, despite the

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01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: fact that we kind of I mean, Atlanta's a bit

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01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: of a bubble, but we are certainly surrounded by a

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01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: lot of country music around, yeah, and I think we

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01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: just kind of tune it out generally, So it's cool

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01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: to get into this story and learn a different, different

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01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 2: part of the world. Oh side note, Senator Fred Thompson

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01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: who Laurie dated is an exact replica of Kelsey Grammar.

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01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: What these guys look? Look him up? Okay, look, I

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Speaker 2: want you to google Fred Thompson right now and give

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01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: me your immediate reaction. Oh my god, yeah right. I

1144
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: mean I'm not the first to say so. If you

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01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: scroll down, there's surely like four pages that show pictures.

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01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: They're like Kelsey Grammer, He's just playing a movie or something.

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: Actually. People also ask why did Fred Thompson leave Law

1148
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: and Order? Did he have something?

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01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a different fred Thompson.

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01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: That's funny. It does say he was an actor, so

1151
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: maybe he was on Law and Order.

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: He sure was. In the final months of his US

1153
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: Senate term. In two thousand and two, fred Thompson joined

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01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 2: the cast of Law and Order, Wow, starring as a

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01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: district attorney. Well, anyway, it was a really cool story

1156
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: to just stumble across. I love those. Let me look

1157
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: up this song. Ah, there's nothing here. Wait a minute,

1158
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: there's a little bit here. Oh my god, there's six marriages. Yeah.

1159
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: My question is why Mary. I feel like after the

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01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: third or fourth time, I'd be like, you know, well,

1161
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: let's just date for a while, you know, like why

1162
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: would you want to tie the net so quick?

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01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: I think for some people, especially older generations, there's this

1164
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: sort of idea that like, that's exclusively why you date

1165
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: someone is to marry them.

1166
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: That's true.

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01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: And if after a couple of months things are going well,

1168
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: you're like, all right, well, then things are going well,

1169
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: let's get married and then we'll have kids together. And

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01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: that's why. Also, I think a lot of people older

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01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: generations who got married a lot of and this came

1172
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 2: from many years of marriage wasn't necessity for comfort, which

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01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: I totally understand. But a lot of people will get

1174
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: married quickly and then realize that they're not compatible or

1175
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: they don't like each other, because sometimes it takes a

1176
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: while to figure that out. So then you got these

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01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 2: sort of rotten marriages, these grumpy old people who don't

1178
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 2: like each other, or divorce or whatever happen happens, which

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01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: is why, of course we waited eight years before we

1180
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: got married, just to be ex sure. But again I

1181
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 2: still feel like that was like holding our noses and

1182
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: jumping in so but I think it's so far it's

1183
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: worked out pretty well.

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01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: It's good to hear.

1185
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess you're right.

1186
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, there is there is something different about

1187
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: people's mindset today, I guess about a relationship, it's like

1188
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: it's totally fine too, or we even did Kurt Russell

1189
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: and goldiehun who've never chosen to get married, and they've had,

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01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, more commitment than Laurie had with many of

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01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: her actual marriages. And as we've seen several people who

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01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: married multiple times, like Ron Shephard what's his name, the

1193
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: most married man or whatever? Oh yeah, but anyway, I

1194
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: just think it's funny to have so many failed marriages

1195
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: and then just keep doing it. Like I feel like

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01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: at some point, if it were me, I'd be like,

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01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just you know what, we're just

1198
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: gonna hold off, Like I don't get married again, Like

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01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: we're together for at least a year or two before

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01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: right thing goes down. Especially with some of them, are

1201
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: like there's literally a couple months between it is in

1202
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: the divorce and the marriage.

1203
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: To me, I'm like, in her heart and mind, when

1204
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 2: you know divorce is a fairly ready option, what is

1205
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: the difference between that and just long term dating?

1206
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: Right?

1207
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: Right? I mean we're in a committed relationship for two

1208
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: years to me, the only difference between that and long

1209
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 2: term dating is that you had a ceremony to say

1210
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: we're in this committed relationship and also you said in

1211
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: your vows till death do us part or something along

1212
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: those lines, and then did not really think that because

1213
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: like till death or discomfort or awkwardness or I find

1214
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: somebody better, you know. It kind of like yeah, So

1215
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 2: to me, it's just like you all you did was

1216
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: technically all you did was date these people. You just

1217
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 2: made it legally official.

1218
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: That, which I guess is the weird party because I'm

1219
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: it's not like you're in it for their money or something.

1220
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: You have all your own shit going on, so you're

1221
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: actually putting your own self in danger by marrying this

1222
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: bus driver or this one whoever, And it just seems

1223
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: like an odd choice, I guess. But you know whatever,

1224
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: she's happy now, so good for you, Laura.

1225
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: And she you know, a life full of adventures and

1226
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 2: for her that was you know, I think she was.

1227
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: It sounds like she was more often happy than not,

1228
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 2: and that she was excited each time that she got

1229
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 2: into one of these relationships. They she usually dated people

1230
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: for a fairly long time slash married them for a

1231
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: couple of years at least. It wasn't like, you know,

1232
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: bouncing one of the next all the time. So I

1233
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 2: don't know. It's certainly not my cup of tea. And

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01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: I don't think it was only anyone was happy to

1235
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: get divorced so many times.

1236
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not trying to say she should stay

1237
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: with someone she didn't get into. I must rather be

1238
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: a multiple divorce than be married to the wrong person.

1239
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: Right, but pump the brakes on getting married.

1240
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: But the marriage exactly just like just hang on on

1241
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: that part.

1242
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1243
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I am very glad that we got

1244
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: this message from Courtney May because this was a fun,

1245
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: like a kind of clib messy dramas.

1246
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit of tabloid episode, which we don't

1247
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: get to do too often.

1248
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: Way, But as you say in the country music world,

1249
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: which is very unknown.

1250
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: To men, also just goes to show that any message

1251
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: you send us could turn into something very valuable. So please.

1252
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: You might not even think so if you're.

1253
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 2: Just like man, I have the dumbest thought about their episode,

1254
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: but I don't you know what, they won't even care.

1255
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: We will, we will. It might change our lives forever,

1256
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 2: So please.

1257
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: We might talk about it for an hour and a half.

1258
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 2: Yes, So do please send us your thoughts, your feelings,

1259
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: your ideas, anything that might have crossed your mind while

1260
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,919
Speaker 2: you were listening to this episode. Tell us if you've

1261
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: been married and divorced several times and sort of how

1262
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: you know your take on everything we've been talking about here.

1263
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: If we're absolutely have no idea what we're talking about,

1264
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: or if we're spot on, you know, I love to

1265
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 2: hear it. Either way, shoot us an email at ridic

1266
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: Romance at gmail dot.

1267
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: Com right or we're on Instagram. I'm at Dynamite Boone.

1268
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: And I'm at Oh Great, It's Eli and.

1269
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: The show is at ridic Romance.

1270
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for tuning in with us today.

1271
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 2: Thanks again, Courtney and y'all take a take, take it,

1272
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: take it, take it good, take it, have it fun,

1273
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 2: have it fun there at all fun and take watch

1274
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: out for Chipper Jones and David Justice. Don't let them

1275
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 2: into your homes if you see them on your right cameras.

1276
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: Pretend not to be home.

1277
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 2: All right, We'll see y'all next time.

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01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: Love you by all right, So long, friends, it's time

1279
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: to go. Thanks for listening to our show tell your

1280
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: friends

1281
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 3: David's uncles and dance to listen to our show Ridiculous

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Speaker 3: well Nance