WEBVTT - Next Man Up.  Mike Lyons Talks to A&G

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli jets pounded southern Lebanon, and despite US concern over

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<v Speaker 1>Israel's bombing campaign in Beirut, there were a series of

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<v Speaker 1>strikes around the capitol. This comes a day after Hesbel

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<v Speaker 1>avow to strike deeper inside Israel. The Israeli military says

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<v Speaker 1>it's targeting Hesbel as strongholds, but there have been more

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<v Speaker 1>than two thousand casualties and nearly eleven thousand wounded, many

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<v Speaker 1>of them civilians.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just thinking, this is listening to that because

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<v Speaker 3>that's about Hesbelah and Lebanon, and the news today right

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<v Speaker 3>now is all about Hamas in Gaza, and it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like Sinwar has been killed, the leader of Amas and

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<v Speaker 3>the mastermind of October seventh. And I was going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the two front war or is it really

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<v Speaker 3>a one front war against Iran? And soon that will

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<v Speaker 3>be more obvious when Israel does attack Iran, which they're

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<v Speaker 3>planning to do. That's why we thought we'd bring Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Lyons in. He's our go to guy anything military. We

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<v Speaker 3>catch him on CNN all the time. I follow his

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<v Speaker 3>Twitter feed all the time and wanted to hear his opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, Sinwar being dead. If that's true's good news.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Mike, Hey one of guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think so. It's not the end or anything

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<v Speaker 4>of this. It's not that things will change there. There

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<v Speaker 4>is others there within Hamas that will, you know, look

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<v Speaker 4>to step up to take his place. But he's been

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<v Speaker 4>the leader since I think twenty seventeen. You know, Hamas

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<v Speaker 4>has got this you know, kind of set up where

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<v Speaker 4>they run the military, they run the political side of things,

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<v Speaker 4>They have elections, they do a lot of different things

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<v Speaker 4>that you would think a terrorist organization wouldn't do on

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<v Speaker 4>some level. But there'll be somebody to take his place.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're looking at there's a deputy leader. There's

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<v Speaker 4>a guy named Sally Aurora. He was the deputy head

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<v Speaker 4>there runs the West Bank operations. So he'll be the

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<v Speaker 4>next one on the target, you know, Israel. It's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like next man up when it comes to this

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<v Speaker 4>decapitation strategy. We saw what they did and let in

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<v Speaker 4>the North with with Hesbelah taking out significant leadership. With

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<v Speaker 4>the Pager operation. This is much more difficult, much more

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<v Speaker 4>precision strikes. But this is a good start, but surely

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<v Speaker 4>not over yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So the reason we wanted to have you on

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<v Speaker 3>was the news came out yesterday that Israel is ready

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<v Speaker 3>to attack Iran. They are going to attack Iran, and

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<v Speaker 3>it is going to be before the election, So sometime

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<v Speaker 3>in the next nineteen days. I would imagine sooner rather

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<v Speaker 3>than later, because the closer you get to a presidential election,

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<v Speaker 3>the more influence it would have on it.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you.

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<v Speaker 4>Expect to happen, Well, I think the administration is going

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<v Speaker 4>to no longer put red lines on our allies, which

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<v Speaker 4>is what they've been doing for the past few months.

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<v Speaker 4>And we saw yesterday, now what it was, We saw

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<v Speaker 4>the B two's coming from the US to drop bombs

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<v Speaker 4>on the hoofties. I think that's a good sign. That's

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<v Speaker 4>an indirect message to the Iranians to stop taking our

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<v Speaker 4>threats lightly.

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<v Speaker 2>Just since you brought that up, I just saw that headline.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the first time we had used our B

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<v Speaker 3>two bombers are really big bombers in quite a while.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a fairly significant thing, huh.

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<v Speaker 4>It is, And and they go along way. Those are

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<v Speaker 4>nuclear capable, not that we're going to drop a nuclear

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<v Speaker 4>weapon on anybody over there, but it just it just

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<v Speaker 4>reflects the level of weapon system that we've brought into

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<v Speaker 4>the theater now that we're prepared to use. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>just going to be these naval assets and and other places.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's that's a we're good at sending messages.

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<v Speaker 4>That sends a big message on a lot of levels.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would take it a step further if if

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the US president or the chiefest Staff, you're advising

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<v Speaker 4>the president and you're meeting behind doors with bbing net

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<v Speaker 4>and Yahoo right now, Look, this is a generational opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>to take out the Iranian nuclear capability. And there's Reel

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<v Speaker 4>has done this in the past. And if i'm if

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm saying, look, we're all in. We'll we'll go

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<v Speaker 4>ahead and light the way for you guys. We'll take

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<v Speaker 4>out all the c ED we'll take out all your

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<v Speaker 4>defense platforms. But you guys got to go accomplish that

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<v Speaker 4>mission because the world will be a safer place when

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<v Speaker 4>the Ranians aren't close to having nuclear weapons. We're traveling

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<v Speaker 4>about you know, how close are they to break out?

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<v Speaker 4>We're watching internal Iranians argue about the fought while that

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<v Speaker 4>the Ayatola issue that they weren't produced nuclear weapons that's

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of garbage. I mean, obviously they're moving it forward.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think this is the time, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of things going to happen the next

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen days before our election, and you're going to see

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<v Speaker 4>this administration also come off, you know, the rains a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit because they recognize that that's what most Americans want,

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<v Speaker 4>and what they want to do is get re elected.

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<v Speaker 4>This administration wants to get reelected. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>what you're going to see, so less less red lines

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<v Speaker 4>for Israel, going to see is reel kind of go forward.

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<v Speaker 4>But they were going to go forward anyway. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think you're going to see that happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's interesting. I didn't know that would be your take.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy to hear it. So you think we would

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<v Speaker 3>actually use some of our unique fire power to lay

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<v Speaker 3>the groundwork for Israel's attack, In other words, we would

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<v Speaker 3>be involved in the attack on Iran?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think so. I think we would. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>that would be a big step forward. Yeah, would for

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<v Speaker 4>us to attack, Yeah, I mean, but I think you'd

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<v Speaker 4>have tremendous support to do that. I think they they

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<v Speaker 4>would be support within our country and with our politicians

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<v Speaker 4>to do that. Not great Britain and France though, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know I saw that and where they are there

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<v Speaker 4>they're struggling with their own you know, internal forces right now.

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<v Speaker 4>But politically this would be the right move at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>So again, they don't Israel doesn't need them, and Israel's

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<v Speaker 4>going to have long memory about how they acted, especially

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<v Speaker 4>in particularly the French. But with the Friends have done

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<v Speaker 4>this before. I mean you look in history and sure

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<v Speaker 4>the French haven't been The French haven't been a thing

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<v Speaker 4>militarily since what April of nineteen thirty nine, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>since then, since right before Dunkirk. You know, they're the

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<v Speaker 4>greatest military ever in the world, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much over a four day period that that went

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<v Speaker 4>away and they haven't recovered since.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, what was it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you might know it. I read the

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<v Speaker 3>Schwartz Cough quote about France the other day that going

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<v Speaker 3>to war without France is like something going to something

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<v Speaker 3>without a banjo or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet, yeah, you know, so again you know, they pick

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<v Speaker 4>at choose when they want to be in the game,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, so I don't think you know, Israel

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<v Speaker 4>this roles Arise doesn't doesn't really care about it. The

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<v Speaker 4>United States is the one that is superpower in the region,

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<v Speaker 4>and Israel's acting like a superpower. Let's be clear, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So here's a well Israel has nuclear weapons as well,

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<v Speaker 4>but so that they act like a superpower. They're going

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<v Speaker 4>after leadership, looking to decapitate. It's all air strikes, using

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<v Speaker 4>tremendous intelligence assets, you know. So they're they're acting like

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<v Speaker 4>a superpower in that region. And what I'm seeing too

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<v Speaker 4>is other countries now Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt quietly

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<v Speaker 4>so these other countries recognize the threat of Iran. They

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<v Speaker 4>want Israel to take out the threat as well. In

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<v Speaker 4>the United States. Now, I'm glad we're going after the Houthis.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been a long time coming since since since we've

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<v Speaker 4>had uh, you know, done something about that situation. So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think you're going to see this stepped

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<v Speaker 4>up reliance on de terrence we have as of right now,

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<v Speaker 4>we have no deterrence that I see with Iran. Israel's

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<v Speaker 4>going to re establish it and they're going to re

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<v Speaker 4>establish it by hurting them pretty badly.

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<v Speaker 3>Fantastic. I'm very excited about that. I grab the popcorn.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be watching that and it's got to happen in

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<v Speaker 3>the next you know, nineteen days before we let you go.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to switch to another spot because President Zelensky

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<v Speaker 3>of Ukraine has laid out his peace plan or plan

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<v Speaker 3>for ending the war. I guess he's calling it that

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<v Speaker 3>includes giving up no Ukrainian territory. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>he actually believes that or not, or if that's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>your classic pegging the negotiations. This is where we'll start

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<v Speaker 3>and go from there. But what do you think about

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<v Speaker 3>where that is?

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<v Speaker 4>I think he has to say that he has to

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<v Speaker 4>start and go from there first of all. But and

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<v Speaker 4>he'll be lucky to get some of that the coastal

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<v Speaker 4>area back in the south there from from Russia, given

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<v Speaker 4>what it occupies, given what it has occupied since Obama

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<v Speaker 4>was president, and then when Joe Biden was president, they

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<v Speaker 4>decided to go after it again. They've got maximust objectives

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<v Speaker 4>that it still can't be accomplished militarily. I saw this

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<v Speaker 4>morning also that the new NATO Secretary General speaking to

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<v Speaker 4>the fact of you know, Ukraine will be a NATO

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<v Speaker 4>country that's not going to help anybody. That's that's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we should just be quiet on that. But then you

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<v Speaker 4>have Zelinski saying, well, we're going to develop nuclear weapons

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<v Speaker 4>if we're not part of NATO, So they're using nuclear

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<v Speaker 4>weapons as a way as defense mechanism. It's too late

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<v Speaker 4>at this point. Let's let's you know, Russia will take

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<v Speaker 4>some land back, primarily Crimea. They need Crimea for the

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<v Speaker 4>Black Sea Fleet. Let's sop Ukraine gets some of that

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<v Speaker 4>coastal area back, which is what it can use. But

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<v Speaker 4>it looks like that part of the Dombas likely becomes

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<v Speaker 4>part of Russia. You have a DMZ set up. We

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<v Speaker 4>have a North and South Korea. The wall is up.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody's good because it's going to mean more conventional arms

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<v Speaker 4>pouring into Europe and the US defence contractors are going

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<v Speaker 4>to be happy about that.

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<v Speaker 3>North Korea blowing up those roads between North Korea and

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<v Speaker 3>South Korea, which was an odd move. Earlier in the week,

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<v Speaker 3>he got China with some of the biggest military exercises

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<v Speaker 3>around Taiwan they've ever done, still running their ships into

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<v Speaker 3>Philippines navy vessels. There's a lot of hotspots around the world,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a global macro question for you is this,

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<v Speaker 3>are we in more of the like this is what

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<v Speaker 3>the world's always been like? Is period right now? And

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<v Speaker 3>we kind of got lulled into a weird state of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, things being calm there for a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>decades when we were the superpower really establishing a global order.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this was that more normal for the world or

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<v Speaker 3>is this more normal for the world where we are

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<v Speaker 3>right now?

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<v Speaker 4>We got lolled into it a little bit, and it

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<v Speaker 4>all has to do with we we've established, We've not

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<v Speaker 4>established the terrence in these other countries we've allowed. Look

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<v Speaker 4>with the Iranians, how much they were able to arm

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<v Speaker 4>Hesbelah and how opt you see these pictures of those

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<v Speaker 4>weapons caches, all those weapons are a clear a result

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<v Speaker 4>of the Obama administration sending palace of cash to the

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<v Speaker 4>Iranians to try to do a nuclear deal. So we

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<v Speaker 4>again lost our way with the term, and so did Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>Israel probably will never forgive itself for what happened on

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<v Speaker 4>October seventh, because that was a tremendous lull and then

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<v Speaker 4>in fact they got off to a very bad start

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<v Speaker 4>as well in that war. We knew that they would

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<v Speaker 4>recover but now that's why they're not stopping. They are,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, very biblically. They're at this is this is

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<v Speaker 4>how they're looking at this is his war. But I think,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that in in Obama's administration, we lost our

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<v Speaker 4>de terms. With Iron Trump as president for four years,

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<v Speaker 4>he definitely acts tougher and acts more afraid, kind of

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<v Speaker 4>goes the the Reagan way of de Terrens about speak softly,

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<v Speaker 4>carry a big stick, and that crazy every once in

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<v Speaker 4>a while, right, And then these last four years with

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<v Speaker 4>with with Brydon and Corla Harris, I just don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what's where they're going. They again they give red lines

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<v Speaker 4>to our allies, which is a non starter. They we're

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<v Speaker 4>telling Israel, we whip saw back and forth with Israel

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<v Speaker 4>supporting them and not supporting this. And it's based on

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<v Speaker 4>a voting block where in Michigan or Minnesota or someplace.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just we've got to get back to

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<v Speaker 4>what's important for the United States, what's important for our

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<v Speaker 4>national security, and how we're going to project power. And

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<v Speaker 4>I hope, hope we start doing that again.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you time to Mike today. Mike. I follow you

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<v Speaker 2>all the time and other people should. At m a J.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Lines, Major Mike Lines, thanks for your time today

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<v Speaker 3>and insight and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks. I seen that later. So hopefull cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye tune it in Armstrong and Getty