Speaker 1: With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys, welcome
Speaker 1: to another episode of nine O two one O MG. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is I'm the most excited right now because my
Speaker 1: co host today is the one and only Iron Zering,
Speaker 1: my boy bestie, Oh my gosh, Steve Sanders in the house.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited you're on. This is amazing. You've been
Speaker 1: doing this podcast for some time and it's just grown
Speaker 1: in in uh numbers, and people are listening and like,
Speaker 1: maybe you Mr calling, maybe you should have been a DJ.
Speaker 1: Oh my now or is this are you a VJ?
Speaker 1: Is this a video? This is a black just is
Speaker 1: this is crazy. It's a whole new world. I'm a PJ,
Speaker 1: a pod podcast. I don't know. Yeah, it's a whole
Speaker 1: new world. It's you're a pod jock, a PJ. I'm
Speaker 1: a PJ. Yes, I like that. I like that, and
Speaker 1: you like wear pj's, so yeah, definitely, um so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Jenny and I have been doing this now
Speaker 1: we're on the second season obviously, um today we're talking
Speaker 1: about episode twenty of the second season. It's so crazy
Speaker 1: to watch the show back now because it's a whole
Speaker 1: different ballgame. We all have kids. Um, all the lessons
Speaker 1: we're seeing that happened on that show are well for us.
Speaker 1: We like, I have teenagers, but we have you have
Speaker 1: young kids. But it's gonna all have an eight major show. Um,
Speaker 1: it's so true, right, Oh my gosh, and you have
Speaker 1: two girls, man, so I think so obviously. So for
Speaker 1: everyone listening, like, we didn't just play like best friends
Speaker 1: on TV, we actually are best friends in our life
Speaker 1: and we are kids are friends, and um, we have
Speaker 1: a beauty business together, so we do a lot together. Um. So,
Speaker 1: Sella just turned thirteen in June, and I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: I like when she the day she turned their teen,
Speaker 1: she turned into a different human. I want to hear
Speaker 1: something good. Everyone's telling me about horror stories when they
Speaker 1: get older, and it's like, my, I'm already they're already
Speaker 1: like giving me a hard time and sash talking. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're still sweet angels. And you know, my oldest Mia,
Speaker 1: she's you know, still a little kid, and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to not just embrace that but encourage it to stick
Speaker 1: around as long as possible. But my little one, Penna,
Speaker 1: she's like, oh dad, we can't cut my nails like
Speaker 1: what do you mean we can't cut your nails. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I'm growing my nails and I'm like, oh no,
Speaker 1: we're not growing on nails. Chew me out out. It's
Speaker 1: I know it well. Jen always said to me, because
Speaker 1: obviously her kids are older, she was like, you're so
Speaker 1: screwed when they become teenagers. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's easy, but it is. It's starting, and it's like,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's hard to navigate. Who would have thought
Speaker 1: Steve Sanders, I mean, you're such a great dad, but
Speaker 1: who would would have fought it like Steve Sanders. He
Speaker 1: just didn't seem like this is not Steve Sanders. I know.
Speaker 1: But that's how people know us. We're always was a
Speaker 1: good father from what we saw, I mean baby Maddie,
Speaker 1: and he was caring and loving and devoted and the
Speaker 1: complete antithesis of the way he was when we first
Speaker 1: met him. He was a brash, obnoxious, rich kids spoiled, arrogant.
Speaker 1: Look at me, I'm Sandra d here's a hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Once you just go get out of my way, you know.
Speaker 1: And it was a nice arc from the beginning to
Speaker 1: the end. Playing Steve. It really was. I mean, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, Steve did change so much. Wait, I know
Speaker 1: the story, but our listeners don't. Can you talk us
Speaker 1: through the story of getting Steve Sanders getting that role? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, so many people may know this, but U,
Speaker 1: Manny don't. So let's go through one more time. I
Speaker 1: was twenty six years old, went on audition for nine
Speaker 1: oh two on Oh. I was out of college for
Speaker 1: a couple of years already, and it was a tough time.
Speaker 1: I had done a soap opera in New York City.
Speaker 1: I was on guiding light for a couple of years
Speaker 1: and that ended. And you know what usually would cover
Speaker 1: me were commercials. I would like book a ton of
Speaker 1: commercials every year and it would really pay all my
Speaker 1: bills and it wouldn't be a problem. But this is
Speaker 1: the first time since I scored a soap opera that
Speaker 1: I wasn't working at all. It had been about a
Speaker 1: year and a half since I had booked anything, and
Speaker 1: I was having a tough time. I was living in Marstown,
Speaker 1: New Jersey. I bought a condo with my soap opera money,
Speaker 1: and I had my roommates, my friends from high school
Speaker 1: living there with me, and paying rent. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I was starting to see the bottom of
Speaker 1: the barrel, and you know, even second guessing whether I
Speaker 1: should buy a pair of jeans at the gap for
Speaker 1: forty bucks because it was tough. My father, who UH
Speaker 1: school teacher UM and a guidance counselor, started off in music,
Speaker 1: went to guidance, spent forty three years as a teacher,
Speaker 1: never really made much money, but always was able to
Speaker 1: take care of the family. When I told him I
Speaker 1: was starting to you know here that distinct sucking sound
Speaker 1: of a empty bank account, he said, all right, I'll
Speaker 1: give you fifteen hundred dollars a month, uh for two
Speaker 1: years and months, eighteen grand Considering my father was only
Speaker 1: making forty five thousand dollars a year, that was a
Speaker 1: lot of money. It may have been from savings, but
Speaker 1: like I, I understood the value of that money and
Speaker 1: how hard my father had worked for it. So I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, all right, all right, But I was
Speaker 1: desperate and anyway, so I took the check and I
Speaker 1: put it in my wallet. I didn't rush to cash
Speaker 1: it because I wanted to wait, and I was in
Speaker 1: California at the time, and I had enough. I was
Speaker 1: done with California. Everyone out there was just so superficial.
Speaker 1: Everyone you know, everyone's in the entertainment industry, and it
Speaker 1: was just difficult. So I went back to New Jersey
Speaker 1: where I lived, and I told my agent, I don't
Speaker 1: want to go back out to California. Really wasn't happy
Speaker 1: out there. And it says, well, it's funny you're saying that,
Speaker 1: because I have an audition for you. It's called the
Speaker 1: Class of Beverly Hills, and if you get it, it it
Speaker 1: shoots out in California. And I said, well, to be
Speaker 1: out there, if I'm working, it's gonna be a much
Speaker 1: different animal. So I'm doubt. I'm doubt. I had to
Speaker 1: go into New York City to pick up the script.
Speaker 1: There was no This is March and there's no internet,
Speaker 1: there's no cell phones. Were still on VHS tape, the
Speaker 1: DVD hasn't even been invented. My father is still driving
Speaker 1: a car that has no We were past that eight
Speaker 1: track tapes. It wasn't too much before that that they disappeared.
Speaker 1: But drive in New York City to pick up the script,
Speaker 1: and I remember the audition was on Lexington Avenue. No, No,
Speaker 1: I had to pick up the script because they were
Speaker 1: putting us on tape the next day. So I drive
Speaker 1: into New York City and I go upstairs. There was
Speaker 1: one flight to this big office, and nobody was there.
Speaker 1: So I looked around and I see a sign in
Speaker 1: a legal pad, which, by the way, has fifty lines
Speaker 1: on the legal pettis fifty lines and they're all numbered.
Speaker 1: And there are also fifty scripts waiting for actors to
Speaker 1: come in pick one up. And there was a sign
Speaker 1: that said take a sign in and take a script.
Speaker 1: So I looked around, wondering if anybody was there, said hello,
Speaker 1: and then someone in the back real sternly said just
Speaker 1: sign in and take a script, as if I couldn't read,
Speaker 1: or they were arrogant enough to think that I didn't
Speaker 1: have any other questions, which really was where's the bathroom?
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I looked at the sign in script,
Speaker 1: and I looked at the scripts, and I looked at
Speaker 1: the sign and I remember the eight hundred dollar check
Speaker 1: and my father handing it to me, and I remember
Speaker 1: not working and feeling desperate. I signed, I wrote my
Speaker 1: name number one, I wrote ben over, and then I
Speaker 1: grabbed all the scripts and got out of there as
Speaker 1: quickly as I kind I'm running down LEXI to the avenue,
Speaker 1: always scripts in my hand, waiting for somebody to put
Speaker 1: a should hand on my shoulder, and never happened, and
Speaker 1: oh my god. I got home. I ripped out the
Speaker 1: scenes that I was going to do for to be
Speaker 1: put on tape. Tim Hunter, the director of the pilot episode,
Speaker 1: very profound, very prolific director um was shooting the pilot
Speaker 1: and I had to be ready. I worked, shopped my scenes,
Speaker 1: Kelly Taylor is the business bitch and all of Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: all that work shopped at the night before, got it
Speaker 1: inside there so I could own it. And then I
Speaker 1: went into the audition the next day and everyone that
Speaker 1: was coming in for the part of Steve because they
Speaker 1: were reading Steve's this day, Hey you got a script
Speaker 1: were left when I got there and I asked for
Speaker 1: a script to I mean, I had to, yeah, how
Speaker 1: do you know the life? So I went in there
Speaker 1: and UH delivered what I had intended. I mean, as
Speaker 1: an actor, we are Victory is in the room. If
Speaker 1: you deliver, if you prepare and accomplished what you set
Speaker 1: out to do, then that's your win. You can't always
Speaker 1: be the guy and I knew that, but I needed
Speaker 1: a job, so I went in. I did what I did.
Speaker 1: I don't really recommend it. I was kind of living
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of the still in the gray line.
Speaker 1: It didn't break any laws, but ethics. I acknowledge that
Speaker 1: I was desperate. You know, desperate times called for desperate measures,
Speaker 1: and I I did what I did. But in hindsight,
Speaker 1: I think they hired the right fucking Steve Sanders clearly,
Speaker 1: righty right like that wins a total Steve Sanders move. Um,
Speaker 1: that's really where Steve and I separate, other than the
Speaker 1: fact that we look like she's aging much more gracefully
Speaker 1: than I am. But suffice it to say, that's how
Speaker 1: it all went down, you know, that's how it went down.
Speaker 1: I flew out, I got a screen test. I was
Speaker 1: very excited, and I flew out to California. They put
Speaker 1: me on a plane like two days later. I was
Speaker 1: flying out there with two other actors. Both were reading
Speaker 1: for Brandon and and Brenda and get on the ground
Speaker 1: at L A X. They pick us up. They put
Speaker 1: us at the high on sunset and it's like six
Speaker 1: o'clock at night. I got to be at the executive
Speaker 1: studios at Fox. At nine in the morning, I'm sitting
Speaker 1: on my bed and I'm watching Cops and it was
Speaker 1: an episode where some like rock stars grow brand got
Speaker 1: a song and she's like in the corner of this
Speaker 1: this hotel room just gotta bed spread over her head.
Speaker 1: She's all embarrased, cops trying to talk to her. The
Speaker 1: phone it down, and I'm looking at that bedspread and
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the bed I'm sitting on back and
Speaker 1: what it's the same Like got assaulted in the same hotel,
Speaker 1: but I was daying in That's what I had to
Speaker 1: go to sleep on. Great you wake up that. It
Speaker 1: was just one of these crazy things I remember. So
Speaker 1: the next morning, I wake up the hardest pounding. This
Speaker 1: is a screen test. I'm going in. The executives are
Speaker 1: gonna be there, Your dad's gonna be there. Peter Chernam
Speaker 1: was there, Barry Diller was there. There was about ten
Speaker 1: twelve executives in this room somewhere, even sitting on the
Speaker 1: back of the couch, not just in the cushions, and
Speaker 1: it was backed. Dowren Starr was there, and I knew
Speaker 1: everyone that was in that room. I would read the
Speaker 1: trade Favers. It's very important. You gotta know your industry.
Speaker 1: You can't just think you're an actor and not know
Speaker 1: what's going on. I knew every face in that room
Speaker 1: from the Hollywood Reporter. And I'm sitting outside on the
Speaker 1: floor outside the room the room, and there's a darker
Speaker 1: complexed young man sitting next to me. There's a bigger,
Speaker 1: blonde haired guy sitting next to me. The dude to
Speaker 1: my right, it kind of looked like Italian. He was
Speaker 1: also reading for Steve. There's me, and then there was
Speaker 1: somebody that kind of looked like Michael Politz. No, no,
Speaker 1: Michael Paul's Michael cutlass. You know, bigger blond wasn't cutlets
Speaker 1: solf In any event. Before I had left the scene
Speaker 1: of the crime, I put vassiline on my gums because
Speaker 1: I had seen once in some interview with a miss
Speaker 1: American Passion or whatever, that they put vassoline on their
Speaker 1: gums so they get nervous. They can still talk like
Speaker 1: freaking genius. My biggest problem was hotton mouth. I'd go
Speaker 1: into a room and I'd be like, howat on I'm
Speaker 1: all day? It's like, and I know you can fill
Speaker 1: your tongue and your left hanging on your guns like
Speaker 1: it's not cool. So I'm like, damn, let me try
Speaker 1: the basselin. It feels like vasselin. I'm like, but a
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm good. I'm good, So that wasn't a problem.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting outside just trying to control my breathing, very
Speaker 1: confident in my material. It was very prepared. It's always
Speaker 1: important people be prepared. Sitting there, I'm really prepared, Just
Speaker 1: trying to get my heart not pounding in my chest.
Speaker 1: The Italian dude is sitting maybe five ft for me,
Speaker 1: saying his lines out loud. Oh that's the worst, Like,
Speaker 1: what the hell? I say, excuse me? Can you maybe
Speaker 1: use your inside voice for that? Because I hear that
Speaker 1: and I don't want to hear that. I'm here for
Speaker 1: a job and I know you are, but let's be
Speaker 1: respectful of each other's space and time and efforts that
Speaker 1: have gotten us as far. So please, And he's like,
Speaker 1: gave me some stink eye whatever. So I just chilled,
Speaker 1: and then I look over at that the big guy,
Speaker 1: and he's like down the hallway doing pushups. Oh you
Speaker 1: know that guy. They're out there. Maybe the chicks don't
Speaker 1: do that but like this dude was like busting out,
Speaker 1: getting his push ups in for just get him piped,
Speaker 1: get him in the right right state of mind, get
Speaker 1: him in that peak state. The door opens and the
Speaker 1: guy to my right gets called in, and I'm just
Speaker 1: sitting there, but I can hear inside the damn room,
Speaker 1: right yeah, and everybody's laughing. Everybody's laughing. It's not a
Speaker 1: great sign when you're outside the door and they're laughing
Speaker 1: at the dude. Who's your competition? Who? Like m laughing?
Speaker 1: And he was in there for what seemed to be
Speaker 1: and in ordinate amount of time compared to the material
Speaker 1: that we were there to audition for it, so already like, chill, chill, chill,
Speaker 1: It's okay. He comes out, The door opens, the divine
Speaker 1: light shines. He walks out, He's got this look on
Speaker 1: his face. He's not sure if he had brain surgery
Speaker 1: or not. So I don't know if they were laughing
Speaker 1: with him or laughing atam. So he becomes irrelevant in
Speaker 1: my mind game because he's not he's not confident. I
Speaker 1: are you ready? I said, yeah, let's do this. And
Speaker 1: I stood up and I walked in the room, and
Speaker 1: I was taken back because the room was packed and
Speaker 1: I recognized Aaron, I recognized, you know, Barry Diller. Um,
Speaker 1: Peter Chernon is in the room. Um, all these other
Speaker 1: young execs that were there, Some had notepads. It was
Speaker 1: there was no cameras at this point. This was your
Speaker 1: live theatrical audition for the network. And already I'm starting
Speaker 1: to feel my heart started town in my chest. And um,
Speaker 1: the casting agent says, oh, this is Iron Jeering. He
Speaker 1: flew all the way here from from New Jersey. Uh.
Speaker 1: So ever, oh, welcome man. Your dad was so gracious
Speaker 1: I and thanks so much for coming out here. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what you brought us. So I said, okay,
Speaker 1: well great. I want you all to pay close touching
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a quiz after this. He said
Speaker 1: that it was just enough to break the ice. They
Speaker 1: all laughed and as I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: But it eased me and it I think it made
Speaker 1: me more accessible because I went out on a ledge
Speaker 1: and was vulnerable for a moment before I delivered they
Speaker 1: the material that made me Iron TVs. Iron Zeering. I
Speaker 1: did my three scenes, I got some chuckles. I accomplished
Speaker 1: what answered out too, I wasn't getting the left that
Speaker 1: that first dude was getting. Wasn't in the room as
Speaker 1: long as everybody, Aaron says, I stood up, shook man. Thanks.
Speaker 1: Does everybody talk like that when they do? Aaron, thanks
Speaker 1: so much for coming. You're nailing it. I mean some yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone always tries to do his voice, but like you're
Speaker 1: doing exactly gentleman, and like stood up and shook my
Speaker 1: hand and his pipe in his mouth, so much for coming.
Speaker 1: Did a great job. And by the way, people, that's
Speaker 1: the kiss of death. When so his thanks for coming.
Speaker 1: You want to hear that ship. You want to hear like, wow,
Speaker 1: that was really awesome. You shed new light on stuff.
Speaker 1: You really elevated the materials you want to hear When
Speaker 1: you hear thanks are coming, it's like so so. Joanna
Speaker 1: Ray was the casting director, Juanna Ray. Juanna Ray. Right,
Speaker 1: she's the one who opened the door and the divine
Speaker 1: light shone over her shoulders, made a silhoue edges a iron.
Speaker 1: Are you you ready? I walked in but right, Joanna Ray,
Speaker 1: So I said, well, listen to everybody, thanks so much
Speaker 1: for this opportunity. I love the material I wish you
Speaker 1: all the best, whether I'm playing a character or not.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a huge chin. Thank you. And
Speaker 1: I walked out and as I passed the big guy,
Speaker 1: you know, almost shoulder to shoulder as he was getting
Speaker 1: called in, he looks at me as I had to go,
Speaker 1: and I went like this. It went great. This is
Speaker 1: a competitive business people. You gotta do everything you can
Speaker 1: to stand out, and I don't I look back with
Speaker 1: some I can't say I'm regretful for doing it. I
Speaker 1: acknowledged that it wasn't the right thing to do to
Speaker 1: take all those scripts, but you know, telling that guy
Speaker 1: to mess with his head, try to shake him off
Speaker 1: his game. You gotta do whatever it takes to stand out.
Speaker 1: That's the story of how Steve Sanders, How I got
Speaker 1: to play Steve Sanders. I got the part the next
Speaker 1: morning and we started filming three days later. It was
Speaker 1: the party scene up at that mansion in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was the night scene. Was that
Speaker 1: our first? Yeah? All nighter, all nighter, all nighter. Kelly
Speaker 1: Taylor's the biggest bitch of all Beverly Hills. Blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: Brian stealing my corvette some like being intoxicated and seeing
Speaker 1: some kid with dreadlocks over me saying like there's a
Speaker 1: spider on your head or whatever. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I was talking about. It was just improving or away.
Speaker 1: You did write a lot of that was improved. Those scenes.
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Speaker 1: you were number two going into the room. Is that
Speaker 1: there's a theory out there that they always put the
Speaker 1: one they want the most in the middle position. Do
Speaker 1: you think that's true? I don't know. I you know,
Speaker 1: I seldom in that casting position at the times that
Speaker 1: I've produced and cast. Get in the room just whenever,
Speaker 1: you know, I when you're seeing people for the first time.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't know. It's not
Speaker 1: what I've done in the past. So wait, you didn't
Speaker 1: go back home then, No. I stayed out there because
Speaker 1: they told me if you get the part that your
Speaker 1: bags were gonna be starting shooting three days later. So
Speaker 1: does someone have to ship your stuff out or you
Speaker 1: brought everything? I brought a suitcase with me. We shot
Speaker 1: the pilot in what twelve days? Ten days? Oh, that's right,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking yeah. And then that was the end of that,
Speaker 1: and I went home back to Jersey and the pilot
Speaker 1: aired I think it's September, and we got trashed in
Speaker 1: the press. We got such oh yeah, we got really
Speaker 1: poorly reviewed. It was it was bad, and I thought, well, okay,
Speaker 1: I got this under my belt, what's next because I
Speaker 1: didn't think it was gonna go And then Fox picked
Speaker 1: it up a couple of years after that. They were
Speaker 1: ordering two seasons at a time for several years and
Speaker 1: double ups and they couldn't get enough. And I know
Speaker 1: two it's so true. We I just want to go back.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about because I remember this.
Speaker 1: So there was a read through at my dad's house
Speaker 1: I um, and I remember because my dad was between
Speaker 1: my audition and and when we started shooting, we did
Speaker 1: a read through with the finalized cast, right, So that
Speaker 1: was the first day you met everybody? Everybody? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: Gabrielle tells the story. Did you guys go out to
Speaker 1: lunch afterwards? Or we did? We went to Chinchin on sunset.
Speaker 1: It is my favorite. Sorry, yeah, I haven't eaten there
Speaker 1: a hundred years, but it's still there. Um. And you know,
Speaker 1: got to know Gabrielle Um, you know, very early on,
Speaker 1: and I think at that table, I realized, Wow, this
Speaker 1: is she's a nurturing soul. She's incredible and uh, I
Speaker 1: was very happy to be working with her. This is
Speaker 1: someone that's gonna have your back, you know. That's and
Speaker 1: she's always been that steadfast voice of reason, mother hand
Speaker 1: almost you know, to go on to be like the
Speaker 1: president of Saga after it, no less. So what was
Speaker 1: it like meeting Jason for the first time? Jesson was
Speaker 1: nice guy, completely nice long hair, you know, smoking cigarettes
Speaker 1: at the time, bit of reverence, but dashing, handsome, like great,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. This kid, this is a good looking kid.
Speaker 1: She's gonna die for him. It's gonna be awesome. I
Speaker 1: hope you can act. Yeah, and he delivered in a
Speaker 1: big way. Jason is the greatest he is so, I
Speaker 1: mean when the show started, Brian was younger, so the guys,
Speaker 1: like I feel like everyone was kind of separated on
Speaker 1: set a little bit, like the guys hung out with
Speaker 1: the guys, the girls, the girls, and then Brian kind
Speaker 1: of was like navigating both worlds, feeling like the younger kid. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: Brian right off the bat felt more like a younger
Speaker 1: brother than me. I was ten years older than ten
Speaker 1: years older than you too, So it's like it's kind
Speaker 1: of hard to relate to a sixteen year old when
Speaker 1: you're in Hollywood on like the number one show in
Speaker 1: the world. It's not like you guys are gonna go
Speaker 1: peeling around town together. So it's it was there was
Speaker 1: a distinct divide, but it was only because the chronological
Speaker 1: difference between us. As we've both gotten older, Brian and
Speaker 1: I had you know that that divide is separated. Brian.
Speaker 1: I love Brian. I would take bullets for Brian now,
Speaker 1: one I'd get up and take another because Brian's the
Speaker 1: greatest guy ever. It's true. Yeah, oh, my gosh. Um wait, okay,
Speaker 1: so the show gets picked up. What was the first
Speaker 1: When was the first time you got recognized out in public? Perceive?
Speaker 1: I had my car shipped out. No, no, I drove
Speaker 1: out when we got the pickup. I had plenty of time.
Speaker 1: I drove out. I had an Accura Integra and the
Speaker 1: license plates said E y E space A N. Because
Speaker 1: I was sick of people calling me in the bane
Speaker 1: of my existing story. I don't give it anymore. Call me.
Speaker 1: I've been called worse than the end. I don't care anymore.
Speaker 1: You don't know my name, okay whatever. My friends and
Speaker 1: family know my name. So I'm driving. I drove out,
Speaker 1: and I'm like driving around. We're like episode six or
Speaker 1: episodes seven had already aired, and shows like gaining a popularity.
Speaker 1: And then I got followed because people recognize me. And
Speaker 1: then it validated from the license plate. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like early like mid first season. And then I
Speaker 1: had to get a new license plate because it was
Speaker 1: it was stupid, and I knew it was stupid to
Speaker 1: have my name on it license plate. That's so crazy.
Speaker 1: You had that license plate. And then Steve's famous license
Speaker 1: plate was I eate A Ferrari. Yeah, wait, did you
Speaker 1: tell them the story of your license way? And that's
Speaker 1: how they came up with that? No. Um. Tim Hunter
Speaker 1: asked me if I had any ideas for a license
Speaker 1: plate because he wanted to do a cool shot of
Speaker 1: my Corvette pulling them right into frame, which was in
Speaker 1: the opening titles. So a few weeks before I saw
Speaker 1: a Porsche in New Jersey that said I ate a
Speaker 1: four R E and I'm like, perfect. So that's where
Speaker 1: that's where it came from. I told Tim, And like
Speaker 1: two days later, I ate a Ferrari. Oh my gosh, iconic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so crazy. And I don't even have that license plate.
Speaker 1: It exists in California. I think it's on a Corvette somewhere,
Speaker 1: but I should not have that plate. You don't have it.
Speaker 1: I don't, and I'm willing to go buy a used
Speaker 1: nine Corvette just to have it on that car. It's like,
Speaker 1: how do we find it? I don't know how we
Speaker 1: find the d M d M V. Can there's ways.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you know what the license plate is,
Speaker 1: it can be tracked. We should look into that memorabilia.
Speaker 1: You have memorabilia from the show at your house. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yes, yeah, what about you? I want to know
Speaker 1: what you have at your house. You have any memorabilia
Speaker 1: you got close clothes? No, okay, so I have a
Speaker 1: couple of pieces of clothes, clothing. One a fan gave
Speaker 1: me at a book signing, which was the lip dress
Speaker 1: I wore. And then Darren Martin He's given me a
Speaker 1: couple of pieces. But I didn't have anything from the show.
Speaker 1: Originally I got the one. I think I took home
Speaker 1: the glasses from David and Donna's wedding. They gave me.
Speaker 1: That's nice. That's like, that's the nice keepsake. Do you
Speaker 1: still have them? You know what my house looks like?
Speaker 1: Do you think? I know? I think they're I don't
Speaker 1: know where they are. Oh god, but you have one
Speaker 1: of the many jukeboxes, right, yeah, I've got a jukebox
Speaker 1: that was on the counter of the peach Pit and
Speaker 1: uh walking out when they wrapped that set, everybody clapped
Speaker 1: because it was the last time we were working in
Speaker 1: the peach Pit and I uh, I literally had to
Speaker 1: tear it off the counter because it was glued to
Speaker 1: the four mica And I think I don't know who's
Speaker 1: producing or whatever it was on set today. Where you
Speaker 1: going with that? And I turned around like I'm We're
Speaker 1: done right, I'm going home, Like well, what about what
Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm like, I'm going home. Nobody said
Speaker 1: anything else, and I turned her out and walked out
Speaker 1: and kind of like game of Chicken with everybody, like,
Speaker 1: who's gonna tell me? Put that down? Like I was
Speaker 1: waiting for it. No one had the balls to say,
Speaker 1: don't take it, so I just get walking. I see,
Speaker 1: I wanted to do that. I was scared. Like my
Speaker 1: last my last scene in the Beverly Beat, behind Steve's desk,
Speaker 1: there was this bookcase that it It's a small bookcase,
Speaker 1: maybe it's two ft across. The books inside it are
Speaker 1: old leather bound, but it's fake the books. It's a facade.
Speaker 1: You push on one side and it spins around to
Speaker 1: a bar. It was the coolest like set piece ever.
Speaker 1: Snurf that too, you know what? Yeah, yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you know, nobody, nobody
Speaker 1: say anything. They wanted me to have it, you know,
Speaker 1: they gave it to me. They I was called on
Speaker 1: all this stuff. All this stuff, as you know, went
Speaker 1: to auction before we ended. They came into every set. People.
Speaker 1: They came into every set and took pictures with this
Speaker 1: advanced camera that does a three sixty. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe if you've ever looked at a real estate listing
Speaker 1: where you can walk into a room and look. They
Speaker 1: did that in every set, and literally everything was auctioned off.
Speaker 1: Everything auctioned off. I don't remember that. I just mean
Speaker 1: I remember the clothing was. Did you keep any wardrobe pieces?
Speaker 1: I have some war room pieces yet, Oh my god, Steve,
Speaker 1: I mean, can we talk about your wardrobe on the show?
Speaker 1: I had a I had a couple silk shirts, you know,
Speaker 1: really nice button down silk shirts that, um, we cut
Speaker 1: the sleeves off just to make make it a little
Speaker 1: edgy and arrogant and you know, proper for the time.
Speaker 1: But like boys were cutting their shirts off and cut
Speaker 1: them up. But like nobody cut a silk shirt up.
Speaker 1: Steve Sanders did. But you know, it's pretty funny. I
Speaker 1: still have that. It's green. Got another purple silk shirts.
Speaker 1: Steve bore a lot of silk shirts buttoned up. To
Speaker 1: hear what else do I have clothing? Was? Um, any
Speaker 1: of your tank tops? You are a lot of tank
Speaker 1: tops because you have a great body. Sorry. The tank tops, No,
Speaker 1: that's that's another thing that's being in my existence, that
Speaker 1: those tank tops. Oh God, which the crop ones. At
Speaker 1: the time, it wasn't a thing. But man if I
Speaker 1: could go back and change one look a couple of looks,
Speaker 1: I would change no crop tops at all. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I made that joke when we did
Speaker 1: b h N O two one oh, when I got
Speaker 1: to speak to my younger self, I told him, don't
Speaker 1: ever wear those shirts again, throw them out, trust me.
Speaker 1: And then I think I think I wouldn't. I think
Speaker 1: I'd go back and maybe you put a mirror in
Speaker 1: my dressing room. Yeah, so I could like realize that, dude,
Speaker 1: what are you buddying like my younger stuff? Maybe I
Speaker 1: would have realized if I knew what I was doing,
Speaker 1: that I was buttoning my shirts to the top just
Speaker 1: to be I was looking for any way to set
Speaker 1: Steve apart. Oh, it was a choice, it was. It
Speaker 1: was an active choice. That was active choice. But it
Speaker 1: was a choice too to create an air of of
Speaker 1: distinction that he had for himself. You know that he
Speaker 1: thought he was cool that he could do that and
Speaker 1: no one else did it, So it kind of made him.
Speaker 1: It was an arrogant move, so sort of it was
Speaker 1: kind of an arrogant move, but I'm like, I'll just
Speaker 1: own it whatever. As he grew and we got to
Speaker 1: know him, that kind of changed when he was really
Speaker 1: surrounded by the friends who helped mold Steve to who
Speaker 1: he was. So it was old choice. Nobody was telling
Speaker 1: me how to dress, what to do. But you know what,
Speaker 1: everyone talks about Steve's outfits that are good. They're talking
Speaker 1: about it, so that's a good thing. And we used
Speaker 1: to bust Brian's balls about the shirts he would wear.
Speaker 1: Everything looked like a damn awning, Like what kind of material?
Speaker 1: As is that campus? What the hell are you wearing, Brian?
Speaker 1: Is it? Oh yeah, oh yeah? And like and they'd
Speaker 1: be stripes on it. And Diane remember dying and the wardrobe.
Speaker 1: How don't see Brian? Oh my god, you addressed him
Speaker 1: like like him? Do you seriously? Uh so funny. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it was a choice for Brian too. Oh my gosh. Well,
Speaker 1: it was just announced Brian's gonna be on Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars, gonna tear up that dance floor. Brian can dance.
Speaker 1: Brian's got rhythm. That dude can move. I don't care
Speaker 1: what athletes they have out there there. Brian's got rhythm
Speaker 1: he does, and Brian can move as good as anybody.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna bet on Brian. I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: Las Vegas and he's going to do great. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you were on Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1: I came and watched you. Oh it was, it was
Speaker 1: It was so difficult, it was so good. Well, thanks,
Speaker 1: I made it to the semifinals. Did I learned a
Speaker 1: few things and I had fun. You know, I raised
Speaker 1: some money for charity, heard a few bucks myself, learned
Speaker 1: some skills. I had a blast. I had a blast,
Speaker 1: great workout. I lost. Wait, I got really thin, But
Speaker 1: that's because all I wanted to do is rehearse. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to because that's the way I learned, repetition.
Speaker 1: So that's what it's all about for me. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break. When we come back, we're
Speaker 1: going to talk more about the episode and Isa, you
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Speaker 1: Should we jump into the episode. It's so fascinating hearing
Speaker 1: stories from you that I forgot to talk about the episode. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the episode. Oh my god. I could
Speaker 1: listen to you tell stories all day long. You need
Speaker 1: to write a book. I mean, you could write several books.
Speaker 1: But like your stories. I love your stories so much
Speaker 1: because you can visualize what's happening. You talk us through
Speaker 1: every like you remember dates. You remember what people were wearing,
Speaker 1: and that's a great story teller. Like, your stories remind
Speaker 1: me how my dad used to tell stories. That's a
Speaker 1: big compliment. Thanks, it's true. Maybe one day okay, Um
Speaker 1: Season two, episode twenty, Competitive Edge. I had to put
Speaker 1: on my glasses. They don't make my eyes look as
Speaker 1: big as your glasses though, new glasses that she was
Speaker 1: so funny when you guys were busting my cho Oh god,
Speaker 1: you guys. So this time around when we did b
Speaker 1: H nine or two and oh and we all were
Speaker 1: back together, it was so amazing, but we all realized
Speaker 1: that we all now had to wear glasses and we're like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, look at this. We're all looking at our
Speaker 1: our lines and we're all wearing the glasses. And irons
Speaker 1: were the biggest of them all. Well oh my god,
Speaker 1: but the like the CVS whatever, I'm losing glasses all
Speaker 1: the time. I'm I don't even know my prescription was,
Speaker 1: but it was huge still is. And Brian said Jake like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like, you might want to rethink those glasses. And
Speaker 1: I'm like why, I like the frames. I don't look
Speaker 1: good and he's like, dude, you look like hercle did.
Speaker 1: I do that, and he made fun of me, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, shut up, Brian, And I asked you and
Speaker 1: Jenny and you're like, oh yeah, you got big, big, big, big, big,
Speaker 1: huge eyes. That's just no those you just and then
Speaker 1: we went out to dinner and I made you put
Speaker 1: the glasses on so I could see Tory. Should I
Speaker 1: send you the picture. I've got a picture of you
Speaker 1: and a picture of Jenny wearing my big eyeball glasses. Yes,
Speaker 1: send me the picture. Oh my gosh, your eyes were
Speaker 1: like this big and in your glasses. Yeah. The three
Speaker 1: things I could send you from that night that are
Speaker 1: very funny and you can share them if you want,
Speaker 1: do it. Oh my god, we had so much fun
Speaker 1: that night. We laughed so hard. Oh my gosh at
Speaker 1: this episode. Okay, sorry, Okay, back on track. Here we
Speaker 1: are Yes. Season two, episode twenty Competitive Edge air date
Speaker 1: was January Synopsis. Brandon trades his reporter's pen for track
Speaker 1: shoes until he smells a story he can't and shouldn't ignore,
Speaker 1: and Brenda's minor accident turns major when the woman she
Speaker 1: bumped claims whip lush. It was directed by David Carson.
Speaker 1: Writers were Darren Starr, Charles Rosen, and Jonathan Robert starring us.
Speaker 1: I know you remember this episode. I know you watched
Speaker 1: it back, but you probably remember everything from it. What's interesting.
Speaker 1: I watched the show when it aired. We weren't busy working.
Speaker 1: I would come moments sleep. My mom would fill me
Speaker 1: in on what was good, what was she didn't like
Speaker 1: about my parts? Of course, it's only later when it
Speaker 1: ended that I would see certain episodes. I have not
Speaker 1: seen the entire episode and the entire series back front
Speaker 1: to back. Same. So fill me in. Was that when
Speaker 1: like there were steroids? Um okay, so Brandon. So Brandon
Speaker 1: gets he's there to do a story, but he gets
Speaker 1: onto the track team. You do you had a lot
Speaker 1: of tanktops in this episode. The gun show was smoking,
Speaker 1: just saying that embarrass you? No, but the way you
Speaker 1: say that is just so funny. Oh my god, you're
Speaker 1: hit the best body you still do? Um okay? So
Speaker 1: the track team, Wait, did you have to do all
Speaker 1: of your own stunts? What stunts? I don't know. You're
Speaker 1: stunts jumping around? Really too, It's not like they were
Speaker 1: having us fall off the top of the school. We
Speaker 1: always wonder when they're scenes where there's like a fight,
Speaker 1: Like there was one scene on campus where you're in
Speaker 1: a fight. This is not this episode, but Jenny and
Speaker 1: I were like, wait, that looks real Like it looked
Speaker 1: like a major fight. The major stuff. We would have
Speaker 1: stunt players come in to choreographic because people would get
Speaker 1: thrown around and they didn't want to see us get
Speaker 1: tossed to the ground. Um, it was a liability. You know.
Speaker 1: They would write these these big scenes and they would
Speaker 1: shoot him in a way that it would be maybe
Speaker 1: Jason punching somebody or me punching and you'd see me
Speaker 1: wind up to throw it, but you wouldn't see who
Speaker 1: I was hitting because they would put a wig on somebody.
Speaker 1: And you know, you just you can it can with
Speaker 1: the magical Hollywood, you can fake it really. Yeah. With
Speaker 1: editing it looked amazing. Yeah. And then but like falling
Speaker 1: in on the ground, you can't really fake we're falling
Speaker 1: into a fountain. Now, you can't really fake that that.
Speaker 1: Some players do that well. The scenes always looked good. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: so yes, this is the episode about steroids, which, um,
Speaker 1: it's like an after school special. This is with cutlets.
Speaker 1: That was his first episode. Michael Cutlets. So Michael Cutlets.
Speaker 1: Who wait, what was his character's name? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm blinking out um Tony Miller. Yeah, Michael started with
Speaker 1: us as a carpenter, building sets and scenes. And he
Speaker 1: was the nicest guy. You know. I think he was
Speaker 1: our age made my age at least, or a couple
Speaker 1: of years older. And you know, we've seen him at lunch.
Speaker 1: He's a nicer. Sky was an inspiring actor. One day
Speaker 1: he got a chance and he booked the part of
Speaker 1: Tony Miller Nuts and then all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: dude is building a set. I'm want to go with him.
Speaker 1: It was great. We're also happy for him. It's such
Speaker 1: a great journey. And now, oh my gosh, I a
Speaker 1: huge Walking Dead fan, and when I saw him on
Speaker 1: The Walking Dead, I was like, oh my god, are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Like just so proud of his journey.
Speaker 1: He's done some great, great stuff. Really a talented actor.
Speaker 1: I think I think he's going to be on our show,
Speaker 1: on our podcast. So that's very exciting. So there's track
Speaker 1: they want Steve to start taking steroids. What do you
Speaker 1: remember from this? Not much, which is super rare. You guys,
Speaker 1: I always talked on the show. How you remember even
Speaker 1: more than me, like you remember details. But we were
Speaker 1: talking about this other day. Episodes Tory we see Glad,
Speaker 1: I don't even remember. That's how many we did see,
Speaker 1: you know, the exactly really watched the series that we
Speaker 1: were busy to work in it. My greatest memory from
Speaker 1: that was being so happy for Michael Cutlets, who was
Speaker 1: a hell of a nice guy who was, you know,
Speaker 1: a struggling actor and like made it to the show.
Speaker 1: That was like the biggest thing I think. I remember
Speaker 1: that Steve wouldn't take the steroids. I don't think he
Speaker 1: did take the steroids now, um, but I don't know
Speaker 1: how it unfolded with the rest of the team going
Speaker 1: down for taking those steroids. I don't either. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie though, whenever I see Steve and Kelly together,
Speaker 1: I want them to get back together. Like watching it
Speaker 1: new now as a fan this time around, I really
Speaker 1: really like Kelly and Steve one in the heart, not
Speaker 1: one on the chart. Hell. I just wish that they
Speaker 1: had like rekindled and at least had one or two
Speaker 1: episodes together again, just so we could really play that out.
Speaker 1: Um well, they were good friends. That was nice. That's
Speaker 1: what the relationship morphed into. And I think like they
Speaker 1: were never destined to be together. You know, we never
Speaker 1: really even so them together because that relationship ended for
Speaker 1: the show started was the pre life of those two characters,
Speaker 1: and in his genesis, it really just turned into tremendous
Speaker 1: respect and appreciation. Kelly always knew that Steve was therefore
Speaker 1: would crawl through broken glass to do whatever. He still
Speaker 1: loved her, but accepted that this is not not going
Speaker 1: to go any further. And you know, I think Kelly
Speaker 1: really cared for Steve in that way, in that shame way.
Speaker 1: So okay, So if you had to choose, because everyone,
Speaker 1: you know, team Brandon, team Dylan, who would you have
Speaker 1: seen Kelly ending up with? I mean, I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess we kind of know who she ended up with,
Speaker 1: but well, Kelly and Brandon and Brenda and Dylon, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: say yeah, I think so, and even Janet and Donna
Speaker 1: and David. I mean, what an ancestuous group we were
Speaker 1: to have grown up together and all married, Like what
Speaker 1: the hell that's called the TV show? Yeah, they couldn't
Speaker 1: afford to bring any more core characters in. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Janet Lindsey Price, who I still adore her and still
Speaker 1: friends with her, like, I love her. Um, I loved them,
Speaker 1: you know what, though, I'm just gonna go on record,
Speaker 1: I really loved Stephen Claire together though. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a fun. I don't know how many episodes we did together.
Speaker 1: But Kathleen was great to work with. She's beautiful and
Speaker 1: just brought that, you know, that elegance to whatever she
Speaker 1: was doing. She had this like Audrey hepburn nous about
Speaker 1: her that I always just like looked at her like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, she's stunning and she was talented. You
Speaker 1: guys were just really funny. I liked the humor of
Speaker 1: Claire and Steve. Yeah, I got to have a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. She was fun with her. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I loved whenever you did anything funny on the show.
Speaker 1: I loved it. Love. There was an episode where when
Speaker 1: we went to Palm Springs and Steve like hit on
Speaker 1: l and he's making out with her and like finds
Speaker 1: out that she's a guy, probably found out by Brails
Speaker 1: and Um. Later she shows up dating the Chancellor and
Speaker 1: we're yeah, oh yeah, but wait what L In a
Speaker 1: later episode shows up and the Chancellor is all crazy.
Speaker 1: Chancellor was Claire's father, and he's all excited about his
Speaker 1: his new girlfriend. And there's a quick dinner that he
Speaker 1: invites Claire and Steve too, And when we get invited
Speaker 1: to to to the event, we go. Kathleen and I
Speaker 1: are were like laughing, this is gonna be a really
Speaker 1: funny scene. So we go and we're introduced to l
Speaker 1: and there's a reveal and Steve, oh my god. And
Speaker 1: all throughout dinner, Steve to tell Claire that that's that
Speaker 1: she is him and that's not your father's being played here,
Speaker 1: and she wouldn't have you do anything to wipe that
Speaker 1: smile off my father's face. I will never ever talk
Speaker 1: to you again. Just as they're serving us food at
Speaker 1: the dinner plate and I said, well, tell me, does
Speaker 1: your father prefer muscles or clams? And made it into
Speaker 1: the show. It did. Oh my god. See now I'm
Speaker 1: going to know the backstory when we get to that episode.
Speaker 1: Oh so funny, so so funny. Okay, we're gonna take
Speaker 1: a quick break when we come back. We're going to
Speaker 1: do some fashion and our rapid fire game. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so we had some fun fashion in this episode. Memorable standouts,
Speaker 1: well for me at least where um Kelly's workout tea. UM.
Speaker 1: Steve had some cutoff sleeves which you talked about. UM,
Speaker 1: and Steve's the leather jackets. You remember the leather jacket
Speaker 1: in this episode. I don't remember any of that fashion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your jacket was good. You should have kept that one. Um.
Speaker 1: So did you have any favorite lines from this episode?
Speaker 1: There were a lot of great lines, you know, if
Speaker 1: there weren't, and I would try to improve something and
Speaker 1: sometimes that would fall flat. Uh, more often than not.
Speaker 1: There was one in this one. What did he say?
Speaker 1: Said you know, she brings out the best of me
Speaker 1: or something like that. That was really tender and hard felt.
Speaker 1: So you know there was a plus one for Steve.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a moment, but um, it was nice. There's one.
Speaker 1: There's one line that really exemplifies Steve Sanders, and it's
Speaker 1: I'm not spoiled, I'm privileged. That line comes back to
Speaker 1: me when I think of Steve Sanders. Hey, we met him.
Speaker 1: That's so true. That's such a good line. Yeah, it's great. Now,
Speaker 1: before we go, we always play a rappid, rapid fire game.
Speaker 1: If you do not want to play this. I understand
Speaker 1: because it's very like it's it's our lives. But we've
Speaker 1: all we Jenny and I have done it. Um who
Speaker 1: is obviously you can say yourself, but who is your
Speaker 1: favorite cast member? You know, I've grown to love everybody.
Speaker 1: I think during the time we were filming, I hung
Speaker 1: out with the guys. You girls did your own thing,
Speaker 1: so I was closer with the guys. And then, you know,
Speaker 1: as Brian, the age difference seemed to be less. It
Speaker 1: was Brian, and then you know, the girls rose there.
Speaker 1: I loved you guys too. It was a family. You
Speaker 1: guys are all like family to me. So it's not
Speaker 1: like your bump heads once in a while you get
Speaker 1: over and you move on. It's the family. It's so true.
Speaker 1: Like when we first started the show, you felt like
Speaker 1: a big brother to me. Like all the guys, I
Speaker 1: was just like, oh okay, I would hang with Brian,
Speaker 1: but like you and Jason and Luke just seemed like
Speaker 1: the cool kids, like the guys doing their own thing.
Speaker 1: And then by the end of the series, you and
Speaker 1: I were friends, like we would go out on the
Speaker 1: weekends and hang out and we do our group things
Speaker 1: like it was so cool, such a young girl when
Speaker 1: we started. You know, I still look at you as
Speaker 1: like a young star. You're getting there, you're getting there,
Speaker 1: but like you know, but it was blossomed into a
Speaker 1: mature woman and clearly you're not. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: think of you as a young girl anymore. But it's
Speaker 1: like we've gone through the fire together, you know. But
Speaker 1: all started with at a very formative age where we
Speaker 1: were so young. I knew Luke from New York, so
Speaker 1: I had a previous relationship with Luke. We were friends
Speaker 1: before the show started. That was nice, um, But yeah,
Speaker 1: it became family. Work with somebody at that age long
Speaker 1: enough you kind of you know the road map to
Speaker 1: their journey, and if you're on it with them, then
Speaker 1: you bond, and you bond his fan, You're stuck with
Speaker 1: me for life. That's how it is. Okay, kiss Mary
Speaker 1: or kicked to the curve? Character wise just characterized oh
Speaker 1: are you gonna tell me? Or am I gonnap? No? Like? So,
Speaker 1: based on the characters, who would you kiss, who would
Speaker 1: you marry? And who would you kick to the curt
Speaker 1: of the core, I'd marry them all? Good answer, absolutely,
Speaker 1: marry them all. Are you kidding with the chicks. We'd
Speaker 1: have like beautiful families together. The guys that I would marry,
Speaker 1: it be we would take care of each other, but
Speaker 1: they could be free to do whatever they wanted because
Speaker 1: whatever good answer. And we know team Dylan, her team Brandon.
Speaker 1: We know how what you said about that, that's you answered.
Speaker 1: Everything else that's it. Um. One last thing, Uh, can
Speaker 1: we talk really quick about our beauty business that we
Speaker 1: do together? Because who would have thought that we would
Speaker 1: be working together as actors and then thirty years later
Speaker 1: we're now we have a global beauty business that we
Speaker 1: run together, you know, as as actors. Every gigs at
Speaker 1: a closing curtain. And it's tough out there, you know,
Speaker 1: it's especially this last year year and a half, there's
Speaker 1: been such a shutdown. I started digging this well before
Speaker 1: I was thirsty. It got involved with the company that's
Speaker 1: going on thirteen years ago and it's direct sales, it's
Speaker 1: health and beauty products. Um. And my success comes from
Speaker 1: helping others be successful. When I got you involved, you
Speaker 1: had no idea what this was all about, but you
Speaker 1: love the products. I've always believed that success unshared this failure.
Speaker 1: And when I was young, and I know two and
Speaker 1: oh that meant getting my shlubby buddies into the nightclub
Speaker 1: with me. As I got older and more and more
Speaker 1: mature and realized that I could spend that capital on
Speaker 1: helping raise awareness to different charities and things like that,
Speaker 1: and that's what I started, really understanding the value that
Speaker 1: I could bring the different charities, and that was important
Speaker 1: to me. Success unshared this failure. Well, how could I
Speaker 1: help the charity If I put my name on her,
Speaker 1: if I go, it'll raise interest and raise money and
Speaker 1: money buy science and science, buy his life. It was
Speaker 1: a good use of that capital with what we do
Speaker 1: with the celebrity that I've earned, that you've earned. We've
Speaker 1: created Team nine O two and oh, Team Tory, and
Speaker 1: people use that to help market because people say, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? And we're very proactive. We worked
Speaker 1: with the team, We go out, we we have bootcamp amps,
Speaker 1: We travel with these people and they're what's so nice
Speaker 1: is that we're paying the success forward, helping people put
Speaker 1: food on the table, helping people pay down bills. Things
Speaker 1: that were aspirational are now actual purchases for these people.
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Speaker 1: it will stay on the site. If you want to
Speaker 1: join us, UM, it'll say how you can become a
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Speaker 1: I said, you know, I'm not I'm like not good
Speaker 1: at like promoting my own stuff. I get embarrassed. But
Speaker 1: it's really a business that we've grown together UM and
Speaker 1: we do. We change lives daily. During a time when
Speaker 1: people weren't working during the pandemic, this was a business
Speaker 1: that I'm super grateful because it allowed me to bring
Speaker 1: in money for my kids and for people around the
Speaker 1: world to have something UM that they could keep going.
Speaker 1: And it will, it'll keep going. It's a business we
Speaker 1: can will to our kids. So we're grooming future beauty
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Speaker 1: my friend, Thank you. This has been a pleasure than
Speaker 1: the opportunity all the people that are watching your podcast, UM,
Speaker 1: thanks for all the support over the years. I really
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I really feel so blessed to be a
Speaker 1: part of this project that continues to be UM so rewarding.
Speaker 1: People tell me wherever I am. The big fans of
Speaker 1: the show, and do I know playing and and Jenny
Speaker 1: garr you know Jenny Garland. It's so nice. It's really
Speaker 1: it's the gift that keeps on giving. I'm grateful. It's
Speaker 1: so true. There you have it. We look forward to
Speaker 1: working with you and sharing our products and paying it
Speaker 1: forward to people everywhere. I love you and I love
Speaker 1: baby Bye. That was so fun. Oh my gosh. I
Speaker 1: loved having him on the show. I could just listen
Speaker 1: to his stories all day long. Um, he'll have to
Speaker 1: come back. Okay, next week episode you want. Everybody's talking
Speaker 1: about it. It's going to be a really great I
Speaker 1: love this episode. I actually remember a lot about this episode,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be really cool. Um, we will see
Speaker 1: you next week. I love you guys. Bye.