1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys, welcome 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: to another episode of nine O two one O MG. Okay, 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: this is I'm the most excited right now because my 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: co host today is the one and only Iron Zering, 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: my boy bestie, Oh my gosh, Steve Sanders in the house. 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm so excited you're on. This is amazing. You've been 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: doing this podcast for some time and it's just grown 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: in in uh numbers, and people are listening and like, 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: maybe you Mr calling, maybe you should have been a DJ. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Oh my now or is this are you a VJ? 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Is this a video? This is a black just is 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: this is crazy. It's a whole new world. I'm a PJ, 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: a pod podcast. I don't know. Yeah, it's a whole 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: new world. It's you're a pod jock, a PJ. I'm 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: a PJ. Yes, I like that. I like that, and 16 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: you like wear pj's, so yeah, definitely, um so yeah, 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean Jenny and I have been doing this now 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: we're on the second season obviously, um today we're talking 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: about episode twenty of the second season. It's so crazy 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: to watch the show back now because it's a whole 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: different ballgame. We all have kids. Um, all the lessons 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: we're seeing that happened on that show are well for us. 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: We like, I have teenagers, but we have you have 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: young kids. But it's gonna all have an eight major show. Um, 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: it's so true, right, Oh my gosh, and you have 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: two girls, man, so I think so obviously. So for 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: everyone listening, like, we didn't just play like best friends 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: on TV, we actually are best friends in our life 29 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: and we are kids are friends, and um, we have 30 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: a beauty business together, so we do a lot together. Um. So, 31 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: Sella just turned thirteen in June, and I'm not kidding. 32 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: I like when she the day she turned their teen, 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: she turned into a different human. I want to hear 34 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: something good. Everyone's telling me about horror stories when they 35 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: get older, and it's like, my, I'm already they're already 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: like giving me a hard time and sash talking. I mean, 37 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: they're still sweet angels. And you know, my oldest Mia, 38 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: she's you know, still a little kid, and I'm trying 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: to not just embrace that but encourage it to stick 40 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: around as long as possible. But my little one, Penna, 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: she's like, oh dad, we can't cut my nails like 42 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: what do you mean we can't cut your nails. It's like, 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: oh no, I'm growing my nails and I'm like, oh no, 44 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: we're not growing on nails. Chew me out out. It's 45 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: I know it well. Jen always said to me, because 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: obviously her kids are older, she was like, you're so 47 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: screwed when they become teenagers. And I was like, no, 48 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: it's easy, but it is. It's starting, and it's like, 49 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's hard to navigate. Who would have thought 50 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: Steve Sanders, I mean, you're such a great dad, but 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: who would would have fought it like Steve Sanders. He 52 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: just didn't seem like this is not Steve Sanders. I know. 53 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: But that's how people know us. We're always was a 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: good father from what we saw, I mean baby Maddie, 55 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: and he was caring and loving and devoted and the 56 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: complete antithesis of the way he was when we first 57 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: met him. He was a brash, obnoxious, rich kids spoiled, arrogant. 58 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: Look at me, I'm Sandra d here's a hundred dollars. 59 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: Once you just go get out of my way, you know. 60 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: And it was a nice arc from the beginning to 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: the end. Playing Steve. It really was. I mean, oh 62 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: my gosh, Steve did change so much. Wait, I know 63 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: the story, but our listeners don't. Can you talk us 64 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: through the story of getting Steve Sanders getting that role? Okay, 65 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: all right, so many people may know this, but U, 66 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: Manny don't. So let's go through one more time. I 67 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: was twenty six years old, went on audition for nine 68 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: oh two on Oh. I was out of college for 69 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: a couple of years already, and it was a tough time. 70 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: I had done a soap opera in New York City. 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: I was on guiding light for a couple of years 72 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: and that ended. And you know what usually would cover 73 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: me were commercials. I would like book a ton of 74 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: commercials every year and it would really pay all my 75 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: bills and it wouldn't be a problem. But this is 76 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: the first time since I scored a soap opera that 77 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't working at all. It had been about a 78 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: year and a half since I had booked anything, and 79 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: I was having a tough time. I was living in Marstown, 80 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: New Jersey. I bought a condo with my soap opera money, 81 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: and I had my roommates, my friends from high school 82 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: living there with me, and paying rent. But at the 83 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: same time, I was starting to see the bottom of 84 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: the barrel, and you know, even second guessing whether I 85 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: should buy a pair of jeans at the gap for 86 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: forty bucks because it was tough. My father, who UH 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: school teacher UM and a guidance counselor, started off in music, 88 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: went to guidance, spent forty three years as a teacher, 89 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: never really made much money, but always was able to 90 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: take care of the family. When I told him I 91 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: was starting to you know here that distinct sucking sound 92 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: of a empty bank account, he said, all right, I'll 93 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: give you fifteen hundred dollars a month, uh for two 94 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: years and months, eighteen grand Considering my father was only 95 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: making forty five thousand dollars a year, that was a 96 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: lot of money. It may have been from savings, but 97 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: like I, I understood the value of that money and 98 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: how hard my father had worked for it. So I 99 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: was like, oh, all right, all right, But I was 100 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: desperate and anyway, so I took the check and I 101 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: put it in my wallet. I didn't rush to cash 102 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: it because I wanted to wait, and I was in 103 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: California at the time, and I had enough. I was 104 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: done with California. Everyone out there was just so superficial. 105 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: Everyone you know, everyone's in the entertainment industry, and it 106 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: was just difficult. So I went back to New Jersey 107 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: where I lived, and I told my agent, I don't 108 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: want to go back out to California. Really wasn't happy 109 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: out there. And it says, well, it's funny you're saying that, 110 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: because I have an audition for you. It's called the 111 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: Class of Beverly Hills, and if you get it, it it 112 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: shoots out in California. And I said, well, to be 113 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: out there, if I'm working, it's gonna be a much 114 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: different animal. So I'm doubt. I'm doubt. I had to 115 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: go into New York City to pick up the script. 116 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: There was no This is March and there's no internet, 117 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: there's no cell phones. Were still on VHS tape, the 118 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: DVD hasn't even been invented. My father is still driving 119 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: a car that has no We were past that eight 120 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: track tapes. It wasn't too much before that that they disappeared. 121 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: But drive in New York City to pick up the script, 122 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: and I remember the audition was on Lexington Avenue. No, No, 123 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: I had to pick up the script because they were 124 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: putting us on tape the next day. So I drive 125 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: into New York City and I go upstairs. There was 126 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: one flight to this big office, and nobody was there. 127 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: So I looked around and I see a sign in 128 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: a legal pad, which, by the way, has fifty lines 129 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: on the legal pettis fifty lines and they're all numbered. 130 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: And there are also fifty scripts waiting for actors to 131 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: come in pick one up. And there was a sign 132 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: that said take a sign in and take a script. 133 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: So I looked around, wondering if anybody was there, said hello, 134 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: and then someone in the back real sternly said just 135 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: sign in and take a script, as if I couldn't read, 136 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: or they were arrogant enough to think that I didn't 137 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: have any other questions, which really was where's the bathroom? 138 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: But anyway, so I looked at the sign in script, 139 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: and I looked at the scripts, and I looked at 140 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: the sign and I remember the eight hundred dollar check 141 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: and my father handing it to me, and I remember 142 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: not working and feeling desperate. I signed, I wrote my 143 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: name number one, I wrote ben over, and then I 144 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: grabbed all the scripts and got out of there as 145 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,559 Speaker 1: quickly as I kind I'm running down LEXI to the avenue, 146 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: always scripts in my hand, waiting for somebody to put 147 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: a should hand on my shoulder, and never happened, and 148 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: oh my god. I got home. I ripped out the 149 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: scenes that I was going to do for to be 150 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: put on tape. Tim Hunter, the director of the pilot episode, 151 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: very profound, very prolific director um was shooting the pilot 152 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: and I had to be ready. I worked, shopped my scenes, 153 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: Kelly Taylor is the business bitch and all of Beverly Hills, 154 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: all that work shopped at the night before, got it 155 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: inside there so I could own it. And then I 156 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: went into the audition the next day and everyone that 157 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: was coming in for the part of Steve because they 158 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: were reading Steve's this day, Hey you got a script 159 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: were left when I got there and I asked for 160 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: a script to I mean, I had to, yeah, how 161 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: do you know the life? So I went in there 162 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: and UH delivered what I had intended. I mean, as 163 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: an actor, we are Victory is in the room. If 164 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: you deliver, if you prepare and accomplished what you set 165 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: out to do, then that's your win. You can't always 166 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: be the guy and I knew that, but I needed 167 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: a job, so I went in. I did what I did. 168 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: I don't really recommend it. I was kind of living 169 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: on the wrong side of the still in the gray line. 170 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: It didn't break any laws, but ethics. I acknowledge that 171 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: I was desperate. You know, desperate times called for desperate measures, 172 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: and I I did what I did. But in hindsight, 173 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: I think they hired the right fucking Steve Sanders clearly, 174 00:09:54,679 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: righty right like that wins a total Steve Sanders move. Um, 175 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: that's really where Steve and I separate, other than the 176 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: fact that we look like she's aging much more gracefully 177 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: than I am. But suffice it to say, that's how 178 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: it all went down, you know, that's how it went down. 179 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: I flew out, I got a screen test. I was 180 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: very excited, and I flew out to California. They put 181 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: me on a plane like two days later. I was 182 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: flying out there with two other actors. Both were reading 183 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: for Brandon and and Brenda and get on the ground 184 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: at L A X. They pick us up. They put 185 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: us at the high on sunset and it's like six 186 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: o'clock at night. I got to be at the executive 187 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: studios at Fox. At nine in the morning, I'm sitting 188 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: on my bed and I'm watching Cops and it was 189 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: an episode where some like rock stars grow brand got 190 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: a song and she's like in the corner of this 191 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: this hotel room just gotta bed spread over her head. 192 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: She's all embarrased, cops trying to talk to her. The 193 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 1: phone it down, and I'm looking at that bedspread and 194 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the bed I'm sitting on back and 195 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: what it's the same Like got assaulted in the same hotel, 196 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: but I was daying in That's what I had to 197 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: go to sleep on. Great you wake up that. It 198 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: was just one of these crazy things I remember. So 199 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: the next morning, I wake up the hardest pounding. This 200 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: is a screen test. I'm going in. The executives are 201 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: gonna be there, Your dad's gonna be there. Peter Chernam 202 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: was there, Barry Diller was there. There was about ten 203 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: twelve executives in this room somewhere, even sitting on the 204 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: back of the couch, not just in the cushions, and 205 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: it was backed. Dowren Starr was there, and I knew 206 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: everyone that was in that room. I would read the 207 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: trade Favers. It's very important. You gotta know your industry. 208 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: You can't just think you're an actor and not know 209 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: what's going on. I knew every face in that room 210 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: from the Hollywood Reporter. And I'm sitting outside on the 211 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: floor outside the room the room, and there's a darker 212 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: complexed young man sitting next to me. There's a bigger, 213 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: blonde haired guy sitting next to me. The dude to 214 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: my right, it kind of looked like Italian. He was 215 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: also reading for Steve. There's me, and then there was 216 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: somebody that kind of looked like Michael Politz. No, no, 217 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Michael Paul's Michael cutlass. You know, bigger blond wasn't cutlets 218 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: solf In any event. Before I had left the scene 219 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: of the crime, I put vassiline on my gums because 220 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: I had seen once in some interview with a miss 221 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: American Passion or whatever, that they put vassoline on their 222 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: gums so they get nervous. They can still talk like 223 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: freaking genius. My biggest problem was hotton mouth. I'd go 224 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: into a room and I'd be like, howat on I'm 225 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: all day? It's like, and I know you can fill 226 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: your tongue and your left hanging on your guns like 227 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: it's not cool. So I'm like, damn, let me try 228 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: the basselin. It feels like vasselin. I'm like, but a 229 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: little bit. I'm good. I'm good, So that wasn't a problem. 230 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm sitting outside just trying to control my breathing, very 231 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: confident in my material. It was very prepared. It's always 232 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: important people be prepared. Sitting there, I'm really prepared, Just 233 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: trying to get my heart not pounding in my chest. 234 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: The Italian dude is sitting maybe five ft for me, 235 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: saying his lines out loud. Oh that's the worst, Like, 236 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: what the hell? I say, excuse me? Can you maybe 237 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: use your inside voice for that? Because I hear that 238 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: and I don't want to hear that. I'm here for 239 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: a job and I know you are, but let's be 240 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: respectful of each other's space and time and efforts that 241 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: have gotten us as far. So please, And he's like, 242 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: gave me some stink eye whatever. So I just chilled, 243 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: and then I look over at that the big guy, 244 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: and he's like down the hallway doing pushups. Oh you 245 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: know that guy. They're out there. Maybe the chicks don't 246 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: do that but like this dude was like busting out, 247 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: getting his push ups in for just get him piped, 248 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: get him in the right right state of mind, get 249 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: him in that peak state. The door opens and the 250 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: guy to my right gets called in, and I'm just 251 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: sitting there, but I can hear inside the damn room, 252 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: right yeah, and everybody's laughing. Everybody's laughing. It's not a 253 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: great sign when you're outside the door and they're laughing 254 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: at the dude. Who's your competition? Who? Like m laughing? 255 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: And he was in there for what seemed to be 256 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: and in ordinate amount of time compared to the material 257 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: that we were there to audition for it, so already like, chill, chill, chill, 258 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: It's okay. He comes out, The door opens, the divine 259 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: light shines. He walks out, He's got this look on 260 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: his face. He's not sure if he had brain surgery 261 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: or not. So I don't know if they were laughing 262 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: with him or laughing atam. So he becomes irrelevant in 263 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: my mind game because he's not he's not confident. I 264 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: are you ready? I said, yeah, let's do this. And 265 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: I stood up and I walked in the room, and 266 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: I was taken back because the room was packed and 267 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: I recognized Aaron, I recognized, you know, Barry Diller. Um, 268 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: Peter Chernon is in the room. Um, all these other 269 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: young execs that were there, Some had notepads. It was 270 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: there was no cameras at this point. This was your 271 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: live theatrical audition for the network. And already I'm starting 272 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: to feel my heart started town in my chest. And um, 273 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: the casting agent says, oh, this is Iron Jeering. He 274 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: flew all the way here from from New Jersey. Uh. 275 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: So ever, oh, welcome man. Your dad was so gracious 276 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: I and thanks so much for coming out here. I 277 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: can't wait to see what you brought us. So I said, okay, 278 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: well great. I want you all to pay close touching 279 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a quiz after this. He said 280 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: that it was just enough to break the ice. They 281 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: all laughed and as I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. 282 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: But it eased me and it I think it made 283 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: me more accessible because I went out on a ledge 284 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: and was vulnerable for a moment before I delivered they 285 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: the material that made me Iron TVs. Iron Zeering. I 286 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: did my three scenes, I got some chuckles. I accomplished 287 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: what answered out too, I wasn't getting the left that 288 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: that first dude was getting. Wasn't in the room as 289 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: long as everybody, Aaron says, I stood up, shook man. Thanks. 290 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: Does everybody talk like that when they do? Aaron, thanks 291 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: so much for coming. You're nailing it. I mean some yeah, yeah, 292 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: everyone always tries to do his voice, but like you're 293 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: doing exactly gentleman, and like stood up and shook my 294 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: hand and his pipe in his mouth, so much for coming. 295 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: Did a great job. And by the way, people, that's 296 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: the kiss of death. When so his thanks for coming. 297 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: You want to hear that ship. You want to hear like, wow, 298 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: that was really awesome. You shed new light on stuff. 299 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: You really elevated the materials you want to hear When 300 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: you hear thanks are coming, it's like so so. Joanna 301 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: Ray was the casting director, Juanna Ray. Juanna Ray. Right, 302 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: she's the one who opened the door and the divine 303 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: light shone over her shoulders, made a silhoue edges a iron. 304 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: Are you you ready? I walked in but right, Joanna Ray, 305 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: So I said, well, listen to everybody, thanks so much 306 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: for this opportunity. I love the material I wish you 307 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: all the best, whether I'm playing a character or not. 308 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a huge chin. Thank you. And 309 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: I walked out and as I passed the big guy, 310 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, almost shoulder to shoulder as he was getting 311 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: called in, he looks at me as I had to go, 312 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: and I went like this. It went great. This is 313 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: a competitive business people. You gotta do everything you can 314 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: to stand out, and I don't I look back with 315 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: some I can't say I'm regretful for doing it. I 316 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: acknowledged that it wasn't the right thing to do to 317 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: take all those scripts, but you know, telling that guy 318 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: to mess with his head, try to shake him off 319 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: his game. You gotta do whatever it takes to stand out. 320 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: That's the story of how Steve Sanders, How I got 321 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: to play Steve Sanders. I got the part the next 322 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: morning and we started filming three days later. It was 323 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: the party scene up at that mansion in Beverly Hills. 324 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was the night scene. Was that 325 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: our first? Yeah? All nighter, all nighter, all nighter. Kelly 326 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: Taylor's the biggest bitch of all Beverly Hills. Blah blah blah, 327 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: Brian stealing my corvette some like being intoxicated and seeing 328 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: some kid with dreadlocks over me saying like there's a 329 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: spider on your head or whatever. I don't know what 330 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: I was talking about. It was just improving or away. 331 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: You did write a lot of that was improved. Those scenes. 332 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: Oh my, you were so good. It's just fun. It's 333 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: just fun. Hey guys, it's Janet Kramer. The I Heart 334 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Radio Music Festival is back. Join us for the official 335 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio Music Still pre Show podcast hosted by 336 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: me Janet Kramer. 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I you know, 345 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: I seldom in that casting position at the times that 346 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: I've produced and cast. Get in the room just whenever, 347 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, I when you're seeing people for the first time. 348 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't know. It's not 349 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: what I've done in the past. So wait, you didn't 350 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: go back home then, No. I stayed out there because 351 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: they told me if you get the part that your 352 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: bags were gonna be starting shooting three days later. So 353 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: does someone have to ship your stuff out or you 354 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: brought everything? I brought a suitcase with me. We shot 355 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: the pilot in what twelve days? Ten days? Oh, that's right, 356 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking yeah. And then that was the end of that, 357 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: and I went home back to Jersey and the pilot 358 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: aired I think it's September, and we got trashed in 359 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: the press. We got such oh yeah, we got really 360 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: poorly reviewed. It was it was bad, and I thought, well, okay, 361 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: I got this under my belt, what's next because I 362 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: didn't think it was gonna go And then Fox picked 363 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: it up a couple of years after that. They were 364 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: ordering two seasons at a time for several years and 365 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: double ups and they couldn't get enough. And I know 366 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: two it's so true. We I just want to go back. 367 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about because I remember this. 368 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: So there was a read through at my dad's house 369 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: I um, and I remember because my dad was between 370 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: my audition and and when we started shooting, we did 371 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: a read through with the finalized cast, right, So that 372 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: was the first day you met everybody? Everybody? Yeah, we 373 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: Gabrielle tells the story. Did you guys go out to 374 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: lunch afterwards? Or we did? We went to Chinchin on sunset. 375 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: It is my favorite. Sorry, yeah, I haven't eaten there 376 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: a hundred years, but it's still there. Um. And you know, 377 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: got to know Gabrielle Um, you know, very early on, 378 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: and I think at that table, I realized, Wow, this 379 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: is she's a nurturing soul. She's incredible and uh, I 380 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: was very happy to be working with her. This is 381 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 1: someone that's gonna have your back, you know. That's and 382 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: she's always been that steadfast voice of reason, mother hand 383 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: almost you know, to go on to be like the 384 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: president of Saga after it, no less. So what was 385 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: it like meeting Jason for the first time? Jesson was 386 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: nice guy, completely nice long hair, you know, smoking cigarettes 387 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: at the time, bit of reverence, but dashing, handsome, like great, 388 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: this is awesome. This kid, this is a good looking kid. 389 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: She's gonna die for him. It's gonna be awesome. I 390 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: hope you can act. Yeah, and he delivered in a 391 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: big way. Jason is the greatest he is so, I 392 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: mean when the show started, Brian was younger, so the guys, 393 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: like I feel like everyone was kind of separated on 394 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: set a little bit, like the guys hung out with 395 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: the guys, the girls, the girls, and then Brian kind 396 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: of was like navigating both worlds, feeling like the younger kid. Yeah. Well, 397 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: Brian right off the bat felt more like a younger 398 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 1: brother than me. I was ten years older than ten 399 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: years older than you too, So it's like it's kind 400 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: of hard to relate to a sixteen year old when 401 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: you're in Hollywood on like the number one show in 402 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: the world. It's not like you guys are gonna go 403 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: peeling around town together. So it's it was there was 404 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: a distinct divide, but it was only because the chronological 405 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: difference between us. As we've both gotten older, Brian and 406 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: I had you know that that divide is separated. Brian. 407 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: I love Brian. I would take bullets for Brian now, 408 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: one I'd get up and take another because Brian's the 409 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: greatest guy ever. It's true. Yeah, oh, my gosh. Um wait, okay, 410 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: so the show gets picked up. What was the first 411 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: When was the first time you got recognized out in public? Perceive? 412 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: I had my car shipped out. No, no, I drove 413 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: out when we got the pickup. I had plenty of time. 414 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: I drove out. I had an Accura Integra and the 415 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: license plates said E y E space A N. Because 416 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: I was sick of people calling me in the bane 417 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: of my existing story. I don't give it anymore. Call me. 418 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,120 Speaker 1: I've been called worse than the end. I don't care anymore. 419 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: You don't know my name, okay whatever. My friends and 420 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: family know my name. So I'm driving. I drove out, 421 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: and I'm like driving around. We're like episode six or 422 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: episodes seven had already aired, and shows like gaining a popularity. 423 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: And then I got followed because people recognize me. And 424 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: then it validated from the license plate. So yeah, it 425 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: was like early like mid first season. And then I 426 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: had to get a new license plate because it was 427 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: it was stupid, and I knew it was stupid to 428 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: have my name on it license plate. That's so crazy. 429 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: You had that license plate. And then Steve's famous license 430 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: plate was I eate A Ferrari. Yeah, wait, did you 431 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: tell them the story of your license way? And that's 432 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: how they came up with that? No. Um. Tim Hunter 433 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: asked me if I had any ideas for a license 434 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: plate because he wanted to do a cool shot of 435 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: my Corvette pulling them right into frame, which was in 436 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: the opening titles. So a few weeks before I saw 437 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: a Porsche in New Jersey that said I ate a 438 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: four R E and I'm like, perfect. So that's where 439 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: that's where it came from. I told Tim, And like 440 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: two days later, I ate a Ferrari. Oh my gosh, iconic. Yeah, 441 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: that's so crazy. And I don't even have that license plate. 442 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: It exists in California. I think it's on a Corvette somewhere, 443 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: but I should not have that plate. You don't have it. 444 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't, and I'm willing to go buy a used 445 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: nine Corvette just to have it on that car. It's like, 446 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: how do we find it? I don't know how we 447 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: find the d M d M V. Can there's ways. 448 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if you know what the license plate is, 449 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: it can be tracked. We should look into that memorabilia. 450 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: You have memorabilia from the show at your house. Oh, yeah, 451 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: oh yes, yeah, what about you? I want to know 452 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: what you have at your house. You have any memorabilia 453 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: you got close clothes? No, okay, so I have a 454 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: couple of pieces of clothes, clothing. One a fan gave 455 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: me at a book signing, which was the lip dress 456 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: I wore. And then Darren Martin He's given me a 457 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: couple of pieces. But I didn't have anything from the show. 458 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: Originally I got the one. I think I took home 459 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: the glasses from David and Donna's wedding. They gave me. 460 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: That's nice. That's like, that's the nice keepsake. Do you 461 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: still have them? You know what my house looks like? 462 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: Do you think? I know? I think they're I don't 463 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: know where they are. Oh god, but you have one 464 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: of the many jukeboxes, right, yeah, I've got a jukebox 465 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: that was on the counter of the peach Pit and 466 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: uh walking out when they wrapped that set, everybody clapped 467 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: because it was the last time we were working in 468 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: the peach Pit and I uh, I literally had to 469 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: tear it off the counter because it was glued to 470 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: the four mica And I think I don't know who's 471 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: producing or whatever it was on set today. Where you 472 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: going with that? And I turned around like I'm We're 473 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: done right, I'm going home, Like well, what about what 474 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm like, I'm going home. Nobody said 475 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: anything else, and I turned her out and walked out 476 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: and kind of like game of Chicken with everybody, like, 477 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: who's gonna tell me? Put that down? Like I was 478 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: waiting for it. No one had the balls to say, 479 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: don't take it, so I just get walking. I see, 480 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to do that. I was scared. Like my 481 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: last my last scene in the Beverly Beat, behind Steve's desk, 482 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: there was this bookcase that it It's a small bookcase, 483 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: maybe it's two ft across. The books inside it are 484 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: old leather bound, but it's fake the books. It's a facade. 485 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: You push on one side and it spins around to 486 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: a bar. It was the coolest like set piece ever. 487 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: Snurf that too, you know what? Yeah, yeah, you know what. 488 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you know, nobody, nobody 489 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: say anything. They wanted me to have it, you know, 490 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: they gave it to me. They I was called on 491 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: all this stuff. All this stuff, as you know, went 492 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: to auction before we ended. They came into every set. People. 493 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: They came into every set and took pictures with this 494 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: advanced camera that does a three sixty. I don't know, 495 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: maybe if you've ever looked at a real estate listing 496 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: where you can walk into a room and look. They 497 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: did that in every set, and literally everything was auctioned off. 498 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: Everything auctioned off. I don't remember that. I just mean 499 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: I remember the clothing was. Did you keep any wardrobe pieces? 500 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: I have some war room pieces yet, Oh my god, Steve, 501 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, can we talk about your wardrobe on the show? 502 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: I had a I had a couple silk shirts, you know, 503 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: really nice button down silk shirts that, um, we cut 504 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: the sleeves off just to make make it a little 505 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: edgy and arrogant and you know, proper for the time. 506 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: But like boys were cutting their shirts off and cut 507 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: them up. But like nobody cut a silk shirt up. 508 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Steve Sanders did. But you know, it's pretty funny. I 509 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: still have that. It's green. Got another purple silk shirts. 510 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: Steve bore a lot of silk shirts buttoned up. To 511 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: hear what else do I have clothing? Was? Um, any 512 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: of your tank tops? You are a lot of tank 513 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: tops because you have a great body. Sorry. The tank tops, No, 514 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: that's that's another thing that's being in my existence, that 515 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: those tank tops. Oh God, which the crop ones. At 516 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: the time, it wasn't a thing. But man if I 517 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: could go back and change one look a couple of looks, 518 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: I would change no crop tops at all. As a 519 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: matter of fact, I made that joke when we did 520 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: b h N O two one oh, when I got 521 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: to speak to my younger self, I told him, don't 522 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: ever wear those shirts again, throw them out, trust me. 523 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: And then I think I think I wouldn't. I think 524 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: I'd go back and maybe you put a mirror in 525 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: my dressing room. Yeah, so I could like realize that, dude, 526 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: what are you buddying like my younger stuff? Maybe I 527 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: would have realized if I knew what I was doing, 528 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: that I was buttoning my shirts to the top just 529 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: to be I was looking for any way to set 530 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: Steve apart. Oh, it was a choice, it was. It 531 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: was an active choice. That was active choice. But it 532 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: was a choice too to create an air of of 533 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: distinction that he had for himself. You know that he 534 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: thought he was cool that he could do that and 535 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: no one else did it, So it kind of made him. 536 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: It was an arrogant move, so sort of it was 537 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: kind of an arrogant move, but I'm like, I'll just 538 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: own it whatever. As he grew and we got to 539 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: know him, that kind of changed when he was really 540 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: surrounded by the friends who helped mold Steve to who 541 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: he was. So it was old choice. Nobody was telling 542 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: me how to dress, what to do. But you know what, 543 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: everyone talks about Steve's outfits that are good. They're talking 544 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: about it, so that's a good thing. And we used 545 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: to bust Brian's balls about the shirts he would wear. 546 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: Everything looked like a damn awning, Like what kind of material? 547 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: As is that campus? What the hell are you wearing, Brian? 548 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: Is it? Oh yeah, oh yeah? And like and they'd 549 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: be stripes on it. And Diane remember dying and the wardrobe. 550 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: How don't see Brian? Oh my god, you addressed him 551 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: like like him? Do you seriously? Uh so funny. Anyway, 552 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 1: it was a choice for Brian too. Oh my gosh. Well, 553 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: it was just announced Brian's gonna be on Dancing with 554 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: the Stars, gonna tear up that dance floor. Brian can dance. 555 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: Brian's got rhythm. That dude can move. I don't care 556 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: what athletes they have out there there. Brian's got rhythm 557 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: he does, and Brian can move as good as anybody. 558 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna bet on Brian. I'm gonna go to 559 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: Las Vegas and he's going to do great. Oh my gosh. 560 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you were on Dancing with the Stars. 561 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: I came and watched you. Oh it was, it was 562 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: It was so difficult, it was so good. Well, thanks, 563 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: I made it to the semifinals. Did I learned a 564 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: few things and I had fun. You know, I raised 565 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: some money for charity, heard a few bucks myself, learned 566 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 1: some skills. I had a blast. I had a blast, 567 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: great workout. I lost. Wait, I got really thin, But 568 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: that's because all I wanted to do is rehearse. I 569 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: just wanted to because that's the way I learned, repetition. 570 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: So that's what it's all about for me. Okay, we're 571 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break. When we come back, we're 572 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: going to talk more about the episode and Isa, you 573 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: have the best story, so we want to hear some 574 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: more fun stories and memories. Hey, I'm Bethany, Joey Lens 575 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm Hillary Burton Morgan and I'm Sophia Bush and we 576 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: are doing a virtual event in September in honor of 577 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: One Tree Hill Day, September twenty three, t H Day 578 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: for the O t H Fam and this podcast family 579 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: is going to be benefiting kind campaign with this event. 580 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: They worked to end bullying in schools and we just 581 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: love them. That's right. The Drama Queens are so excited 582 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: to hang out with you eyes on our very special day. 583 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: So all the information is going to go up on 584 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: looped live dot com. There is more information coming soon. 585 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: That's l O O p e d live dot com. 586 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: The Drama Queens are coming to you live from the 587 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: iconic Beverly Hilton Hotel. That's looped live dot com for tickets. 588 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: Should we jump into the episode. It's so fascinating hearing 589 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: stories from you that I forgot to talk about the episode. Okay, 590 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: let's talk about the episode. Oh my god. I could 591 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: listen to you tell stories all day long. You need 592 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 1: to write a book. I mean, you could write several books. 593 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: But like your stories. I love your stories so much 594 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: because you can visualize what's happening. You talk us through 595 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: every like you remember dates. You remember what people were wearing, 596 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: and that's a great story teller. Like, your stories remind 597 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: me how my dad used to tell stories. That's a 598 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: big compliment. Thanks, it's true. Maybe one day okay, Um 599 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: Season two, episode twenty, Competitive Edge. I had to put 600 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: on my glasses. They don't make my eyes look as 601 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: big as your glasses though, new glasses that she was 602 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: so funny when you guys were busting my cho Oh god, 603 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: you guys. So this time around when we did b 604 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: H nine or two and oh and we all were 605 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: back together, it was so amazing, but we all realized 606 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: that we all now had to wear glasses and we're like, 607 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: oh wow, look at this. We're all looking at our 608 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: our lines and we're all wearing the glasses. And irons 609 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: were the biggest of them all. Well oh my god, 610 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: but the like the CVS whatever, I'm losing glasses all 611 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: the time. I'm I don't even know my prescription was, 612 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: but it was huge still is. And Brian said Jake like, yeah, 613 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: he's like, you might want to rethink those glasses. And 614 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm like why, I like the frames. I don't look 615 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: good and he's like, dude, you look like hercle did. 616 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: I do that, and he made fun of me, and 617 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, shut up, Brian, And I asked you and 618 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: Jenny and you're like, oh yeah, you got big, big, big, big, big, 619 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: huge eyes. That's just no those you just and then 620 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: we went out to dinner and I made you put 621 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: the glasses on so I could see Tory. Should I 622 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: send you the picture. I've got a picture of you 623 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: and a picture of Jenny wearing my big eyeball glasses. Yes, 624 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: send me the picture. Oh my gosh, your eyes were 625 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: like this big and in your glasses. Yeah. The three 626 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: things I could send you from that night that are 627 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: very funny and you can share them if you want, 628 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: do it. Oh my god, we had so much fun 629 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: that night. We laughed so hard. Oh my gosh at 630 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: this episode. Okay, sorry, Okay, back on track. Here we 631 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: are Yes. Season two, episode twenty Competitive Edge air date 632 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: was January Synopsis. Brandon trades his reporter's pen for track 633 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: shoes until he smells a story he can't and shouldn't ignore, 634 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: and Brenda's minor accident turns major when the woman she 635 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: bumped claims whip lush. It was directed by David Carson. 636 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: Writers were Darren Starr, Charles Rosen, and Jonathan Robert starring us. 637 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: I know you remember this episode. I know you watched 638 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: it back, but you probably remember everything from it. What's interesting. 639 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: I watched the show when it aired. We weren't busy working. 640 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: I would come moments sleep. My mom would fill me 641 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: in on what was good, what was she didn't like 642 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: about my parts? Of course, it's only later when it 643 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: ended that I would see certain episodes. I have not 644 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: seen the entire episode and the entire series back front 645 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: to back. Same. So fill me in. Was that when 646 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: like there were steroids? Um okay, so Brandon. So Brandon 647 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: gets he's there to do a story, but he gets 648 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: onto the track team. You do you had a lot 649 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: of tanktops in this episode. The gun show was smoking, 650 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: just saying that embarrass you? No, but the way you 651 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: say that is just so funny. Oh my god, you're 652 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: hit the best body you still do? Um okay? So 653 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: the track team, Wait, did you have to do all 654 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: of your own stunts? What stunts? I don't know. You're 655 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: stunts jumping around? Really too, It's not like they were 656 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: having us fall off the top of the school. We 657 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: always wonder when they're scenes where there's like a fight, 658 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: Like there was one scene on campus where you're in 659 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: a fight. This is not this episode, but Jenny and 660 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: I were like, wait, that looks real Like it looked 661 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: like a major fight. The major stuff. We would have 662 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: stunt players come in to choreographic because people would get 663 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: thrown around and they didn't want to see us get 664 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: tossed to the ground. Um, it was a liability. You know. 665 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: They would write these these big scenes and they would 666 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: shoot him in a way that it would be maybe 667 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: Jason punching somebody or me punching and you'd see me 668 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: wind up to throw it, but you wouldn't see who 669 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: I was hitting because they would put a wig on somebody. 670 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: And you know, you just you can it can with 671 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: the magical Hollywood, you can fake it really. Yeah. With 672 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: editing it looked amazing. Yeah. And then but like falling 673 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: in on the ground, you can't really fake we're falling 674 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: into a fountain. Now, you can't really fake that that. 675 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 1: Some players do that well. The scenes always looked good. Um, okay, 676 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: so yes, this is the episode about steroids, which, um, 677 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: it's like an after school special. This is with cutlets. 678 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: That was his first episode. Michael Cutlets. So Michael Cutlets. 679 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: Who wait, what was his character's name? Oh my god, 680 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm blinking out um Tony Miller. Yeah, Michael started with 681 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: us as a carpenter, building sets and scenes. And he 682 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: was the nicest guy. You know. I think he was 683 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: our age made my age at least, or a couple 684 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: of years older. And you know, we've seen him at lunch. 685 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: He's a nicer. Sky was an inspiring actor. One day 686 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: he got a chance and he booked the part of 687 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: Tony Miller Nuts and then all of a sudden, the 688 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: dude is building a set. I'm want to go with him. 689 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,959 Speaker 1: It was great. We're also happy for him. It's such 690 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: a great journey. And now, oh my gosh, I a 691 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: huge Walking Dead fan, and when I saw him on 692 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: The Walking Dead, I was like, oh my god, are 693 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: you kidding me? Like just so proud of his journey. 694 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: He's done some great, great stuff. Really a talented actor. 695 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: I think I think he's going to be on our show, 696 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 1: on our podcast. So that's very exciting. So there's track 697 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: they want Steve to start taking steroids. What do you 698 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: remember from this? Not much, which is super rare. You guys, 699 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: I always talked on the show. How you remember even 700 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: more than me, like you remember details. But we were 701 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: talking about this other day. Episodes Tory we see Glad, 702 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't even remember. That's how many we did see, 703 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: you know, the exactly really watched the series that we 704 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: were busy to work in it. My greatest memory from 705 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: that was being so happy for Michael Cutlets, who was 706 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: a hell of a nice guy who was, you know, 707 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: a struggling actor and like made it to the show. 708 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: That was like the biggest thing I think. I remember 709 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: that Steve wouldn't take the steroids. I don't think he 710 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: did take the steroids now, um, but I don't know 711 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: how it unfolded with the rest of the team going 712 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: down for taking those steroids. I don't either. I'm not 713 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: gonna lie though, whenever I see Steve and Kelly together, 714 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: I want them to get back together. Like watching it 715 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: new now as a fan this time around, I really 716 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: really like Kelly and Steve one in the heart, not 717 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: one on the chart. Hell. I just wish that they 718 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: had like rekindled and at least had one or two 719 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: episodes together again, just so we could really play that out. 720 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: Um well, they were good friends. That was nice. That's 721 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: what the relationship morphed into. And I think like they 722 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: were never destined to be together. You know, we never 723 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: really even so them together because that relationship ended for 724 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 1: the show started was the pre life of those two characters, 725 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: and in his genesis, it really just turned into tremendous 726 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: respect and appreciation. Kelly always knew that Steve was therefore 727 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: would crawl through broken glass to do whatever. He still 728 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: loved her, but accepted that this is not not going 729 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: to go any further. And you know, I think Kelly 730 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: really cared for Steve in that way, in that shame way. 731 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: So okay, So if you had to choose, because everyone, 732 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, team Brandon, team Dylan, who would you have 733 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: seen Kelly ending up with? I mean, I mean, I 734 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: guess we kind of know who she ended up with, 735 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: but well, Kelly and Brandon and Brenda and Dylon, yeah, okay, 736 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 1: say yeah, I think so, and even Janet and Donna 737 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: and David. I mean, what an ancestuous group we were 738 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: to have grown up together and all married, Like what 739 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: the hell that's called the TV show? Yeah, they couldn't 740 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: afford to bring any more core characters in. Oh my god, 741 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: Janet Lindsey Price, who I still adore her and still 742 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: friends with her, like, I love her. Um, I loved them, 743 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: you know what, though, I'm just gonna go on record, 744 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: I really loved Stephen Claire together though. Yeah, that was 745 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: a fun. I don't know how many episodes we did together. 746 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: But Kathleen was great to work with. She's beautiful and 747 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: just brought that, you know, that elegance to whatever she 748 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 1: was doing. She had this like Audrey hepburn nous about 749 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: her that I always just like looked at her like, 750 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, she's stunning and she was talented. You 751 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: guys were just really funny. I liked the humor of 752 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: Claire and Steve. Yeah, I got to have a lot 753 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: of fun. She was fun with her. Oh my gosh. 754 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: I loved whenever you did anything funny on the show. 755 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: I loved it. Love. There was an episode where when 756 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: we went to Palm Springs and Steve like hit on 757 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: l and he's making out with her and like finds 758 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: out that she's a guy, probably found out by Brails 759 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: and Um. Later she shows up dating the Chancellor and 760 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: we're yeah, oh yeah, but wait what L In a 761 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 1: later episode shows up and the Chancellor is all crazy. 762 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: Chancellor was Claire's father, and he's all excited about his 763 00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: his new girlfriend. And there's a quick dinner that he 764 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: invites Claire and Steve too, And when we get invited 765 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: to to to the event, we go. Kathleen and I 766 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: are were like laughing, this is gonna be a really 767 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: funny scene. So we go and we're introduced to l 768 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 1: and there's a reveal and Steve, oh my god. And 769 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: all throughout dinner, Steve to tell Claire that that's that 770 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: she is him and that's not your father's being played here, 771 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: and she wouldn't have you do anything to wipe that 772 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,879 Speaker 1: smile off my father's face. I will never ever talk 773 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: to you again. Just as they're serving us food at 774 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: the dinner plate and I said, well, tell me, does 775 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 1: your father prefer muscles or clams? And made it into 776 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: the show. It did. Oh my god. See now I'm 777 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: going to know the backstory when we get to that episode. 778 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: Oh so funny, so so funny. Okay, we're gonna take 779 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 1: a quick break when we come back. We're going to 780 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: do some fashion and our rapid fire game. Oh yeah, 781 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: so we had some fun fashion in this episode. Memorable standouts, 782 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: well for me at least where um Kelly's workout tea. UM. 783 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: Steve had some cutoff sleeves which you talked about. UM, 784 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: and Steve's the leather jackets. You remember the leather jacket 785 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: in this episode. I don't remember any of that fashion. Yeah, 786 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: your jacket was good. You should have kept that one. Um. 787 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: So did you have any favorite lines from this episode? 788 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: There were a lot of great lines, you know, if 789 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: there weren't, and I would try to improve something and 790 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: sometimes that would fall flat. Uh, more often than not. 791 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: There was one in this one. What did he say? 792 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: Said you know, she brings out the best of me 793 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,399 Speaker 1: or something like that. That was really tender and hard felt. 794 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: So you know there was a plus one for Steve. 795 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't a moment, but um, it was nice. There's one. 796 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: There's one line that really exemplifies Steve Sanders, and it's 797 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm not spoiled, I'm privileged. That line comes back to 798 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 1: me when I think of Steve Sanders. Hey, we met him. 799 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 1: That's so true. That's such a good line. Yeah, it's great. Now, 800 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: before we go, we always play a rappid, rapid fire game. 801 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 1: If you do not want to play this. I understand 802 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 1: because it's very like it's it's our lives. But we've 803 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: all we Jenny and I have done it. Um who 804 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: is obviously you can say yourself, but who is your 805 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,280 Speaker 1: favorite cast member? You know, I've grown to love everybody. 806 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: I think during the time we were filming, I hung 807 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: out with the guys. You girls did your own thing, 808 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: so I was closer with the guys. And then, you know, 809 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 1: as Brian, the age difference seemed to be less. It 810 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: was Brian, and then you know, the girls rose there. 811 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: I loved you guys too. It was a family. You 812 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 1: guys are all like family to me. So it's not 813 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: like your bump heads once in a while you get 814 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: over and you move on. It's the family. It's so true. 815 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: Like when we first started the show, you felt like 816 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 1: a big brother to me. Like all the guys, I 817 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: was just like, oh okay, I would hang with Brian, 818 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: but like you and Jason and Luke just seemed like 819 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: the cool kids, like the guys doing their own thing. 820 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: And then by the end of the series, you and 821 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 1: I were friends, like we would go out on the 822 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,439 Speaker 1: weekends and hang out and we do our group things 823 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: like it was so cool, such a young girl when 824 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 1: we started. You know, I still look at you as 825 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: like a young star. You're getting there, you're getting there, 826 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: but like you know, but it was blossomed into a 827 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: mature woman and clearly you're not. You know, I don't 828 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: think of you as a young girl anymore. But it's 829 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: like we've gone through the fire together, you know. But 830 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: all started with at a very formative age where we 831 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: were so young. I knew Luke from New York, so 832 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: I had a previous relationship with Luke. We were friends 833 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: before the show started. That was nice, um, But yeah, 834 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: it became family. Work with somebody at that age long 835 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: enough you kind of you know the road map to 836 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: their journey, and if you're on it with them, then 837 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: you bond, and you bond his fan, You're stuck with 838 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: me for life. That's how it is. Okay, kiss Mary 839 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: or kicked to the curve? Character wise just characterized oh 840 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: are you gonna tell me? Or am I gonnap? No? Like? So, 841 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 1: based on the characters, who would you kiss, who would 842 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: you marry? And who would you kick to the curt 843 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: of the core, I'd marry them all? Good answer, absolutely, 844 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,439 Speaker 1: marry them all. Are you kidding with the chicks. We'd 845 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: have like beautiful families together. The guys that I would marry, 846 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: it be we would take care of each other, but 847 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: they could be free to do whatever they wanted because 848 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 1: whatever good answer. And we know team Dylan, her team Brandon. 849 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: We know how what you said about that, that's you answered. 850 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: Everything else that's it. Um. One last thing, Uh, can 851 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: we talk really quick about our beauty business that we 852 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 1: do together? Because who would have thought that we would 853 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: be working together as actors and then thirty years later 854 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 1: we're now we have a global beauty business that we 855 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: run together, you know, as as actors. Every gigs at 856 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: a closing curtain. And it's tough out there, you know, 857 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: it's especially this last year year and a half, there's 858 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: been such a shutdown. I started digging this well before 859 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: I was thirsty. It got involved with the company that's 860 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,439 Speaker 1: going on thirteen years ago and it's direct sales, it's 861 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: health and beauty products. Um. And my success comes from 862 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: helping others be successful. When I got you involved, you 863 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 1: had no idea what this was all about, but you 864 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: love the products. I've always believed that success unshared this failure. 865 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: And when I was young, and I know two and 866 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 1: oh that meant getting my shlubby buddies into the nightclub 867 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 1: with me. As I got older and more and more 868 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: mature and realized that I could spend that capital on 869 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: helping raise awareness to different charities and things like that, 870 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: and that's what I started, really understanding the value that 871 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: I could bring the different charities, and that was important 872 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: to me. Success unshared this failure. Well, how could I 873 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: help the charity If I put my name on her, 874 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: if I go, it'll raise interest and raise money and 875 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: money buy science and science, buy his life. It was 876 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: a good use of that capital with what we do 877 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: with the celebrity that I've earned, that you've earned. We've 878 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: created Team nine O two and oh, Team Tory, and 879 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: people use that to help market because people say, what 880 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 1: are you talking about? And we're very proactive. We worked 881 00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,280 Speaker 1: with the team, We go out, we we have bootcamp amps, 882 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: We travel with these people and they're what's so nice 883 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 1: is that we're paying the success forward, helping people put 884 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: food on the table, helping people pay down bills. Things 885 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: that were aspirational are now actual purchases for these people. 886 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 1: And it feels so good. Okay, so you can check 887 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 1: out our products at Beauty with Tory dot com and 888 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: it will stay on the site. If you want to 889 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: join us, UM, it'll say how you can become a 890 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: member of our team with us or joint team No 891 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: two on o dot com. Tory thanks the shameless plug, no, 892 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I'm not I'm like not good 893 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: at like promoting my own stuff. I get embarrassed. But 894 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 1: it's really a business that we've grown together UM and 895 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: we do. We change lives daily. During a time when 896 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 1: people weren't working during the pandemic, this was a business 897 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: that I'm super grateful because it allowed me to bring 898 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 1: in money for my kids and for people around the 899 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: world to have something UM that they could keep going. 900 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: And it will, it'll keep going. It's a business we 901 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: can will to our kids. So we're grooming future beauty 902 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: business Boss Bay aids and we love it all right, 903 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: my friend, Thank you. This has been a pleasure than 904 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: the opportunity all the people that are watching your podcast, UM, 905 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: thanks for all the support over the years. I really 906 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I really feel so blessed to be a 907 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: part of this project that continues to be UM so rewarding. 908 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: People tell me wherever I am. The big fans of 909 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,959 Speaker 1: the show, and do I know playing and and Jenny 910 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: garr you know Jenny Garland. It's so nice. It's really 911 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: it's the gift that keeps on giving. I'm grateful. It's 912 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: so true. There you have it. We look forward to 913 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: working with you and sharing our products and paying it 914 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 1: forward to people everywhere. I love you and I love 915 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: baby Bye. That was so fun. Oh my gosh. I 916 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 1: loved having him on the show. I could just listen 917 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: to his stories all day long. Um, he'll have to 918 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: come back. Okay, next week episode you want. Everybody's talking 919 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 1: about it. It's going to be a really great I 920 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 1: love this episode. I actually remember a lot about this episode, 921 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be really cool. Um, we will see 922 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 1: you next week. I love you guys. Bye.