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Speaker 1: take it to the bank. Together, we will make America

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Speaker 1: great again. She'll never sharender. It's what you've been waiting

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Speaker 1: for all day. Buck Sexton with America now joined the

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Freedom Hunt. Honor, a privilege and a

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Speaker 1: pleasure as always to have you here with me. Please

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Speaker 1: starting in October. Uh. This is more just a moment

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Speaker 1: Definitely want to talk to you about the latest there.

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Speaker 1: Um will be joined by Ben Shapiro of The Daily

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Speaker 1: everyone I know in law enforcement, every cop I've ever

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Speaker 1: talked to about this, and it's a it's always a

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Speaker 1: fun discussion to have with them. The moment that the

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Speaker 1: moment that uh law enforcement officer comes over and wants

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Speaker 1: to say anything other than you know, I hope you're

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Speaker 1: having a nice day or something, you really well. The

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Speaker 1: moment you're placing arrest you you say nothing. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter how eloquence you are, doesn't matter how brilliant, doesn't

436
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Speaker 1: matter how innocent, it does not matter. The moment you

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Speaker 1: are placed under arrest, you say nothing. And you really

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Speaker 1: don't want to say anything before that either. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I can understand if someone, you know, if an officer

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Speaker 1: comes up to you and says, you know, did you

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Speaker 1: shove him, and you're outside of a bar, like, no,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean, you're gonna defend yourself. But the

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Speaker 1: moment that you're arrested, you've got to just shut your mouth.

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Speaker 1: And that's just an ironclad rule. I've never heard anyone

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Speaker 1: in law enforced and a prosecutor a cop, I've never

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Speaker 1: heard anybody say otherwise. They're always just like you know,

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Speaker 1: and of course they want suspects to talk, so they're

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Speaker 1: not going to tell you that if they arrest you.

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Speaker 1: But if you're just asking them as a friend, you're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering with Trump in this New York Times thing.

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Speaker 1: It's just there's no way this helps him. Now, maybe

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Speaker 1: you'll say, Buck, you know what, he's Trump. It's not

453
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Speaker 1: gonna hurt him either, you know, Maga who cares. Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe that may be true, but there's no way that

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Speaker 1: it helps him. So I don't understand why he spends

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Speaker 1: his time in there with them talking about this. But

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00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: you'll notice that the finance issue has come up now.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I've been concerned all along about

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Speaker 1: this Special prosecutor angle, because there's no way of knowing

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Speaker 1: where this goes, and they can go back into Trump's

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Speaker 1: finances for a very long way, and this at some

462
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: point just turns into a they need to find something.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna pretend that a thorough investigation, a thorough investigation

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Speaker 1: that ends with no charges and no findings is okay

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Speaker 1: because otherwise we know the fixes in and it's politicized

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Speaker 1: from the start. But the truth here is that the

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Speaker 1: pressure on an investigation like this to come up with

468
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Speaker 1: something the Scooter Libby effect, if you will, They got

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Speaker 1: to get someone otherwise what was the point of all

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Speaker 1: of this. That pressure is very high, and so looking

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Speaker 1: into finances. And you know, this is where I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's necessarily gonna be a problem for Trump, but

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Speaker 1: someone somewhere is going down for this. That's what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see. And it doesn't matter how low on the top,

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Speaker 1: how how low on the hierarchy they are, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: You know, they are gonna they're gonna find themselves in

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Speaker 1: the very unfortunate spot of uh, federal investigation and possible

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Speaker 1: federal charges of some kind or other, which you know,

479
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Speaker 1: some of your like buck if they've committed a crime,

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Speaker 1: then they should do the time. And it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you, you you sit around long enough with

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Speaker 1: the federal code and you go into someone's finances and

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Speaker 1: you look through them endlessly, you know, you're it's you'd

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Speaker 1: be surprised. I mean, there's even a book written, I

485
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Speaker 1: think it's called Three Felonies a Day by a former

486
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Speaker 1: defense attorney who's like, people don't even know how much

487
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Speaker 1: they're violating the law on a regular basis. They have

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Speaker 1: no they have no idea how often they're violating the law,

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Speaker 1: and if they did, they'd be petrified. I mean, normal

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Speaker 1: good people, I mean you and me, violent and the

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Speaker 1: law all the time, you know it or not, um

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Speaker 1: in ways larger than you'd probably think. Who based on

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Speaker 1: the federal code. Now you could say back, a prosecutor

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Speaker 1: wouldn't go with that, or you know, we can trust

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Speaker 1: our prosecutors. Okay, good luck with that one. Uh. So

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Speaker 1: that's why I've always thought the process here was the

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Speaker 1: punishment that actual Council investigation is. Uh, this is not

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Speaker 1: this is not going to end well. It's not gonna

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Speaker 1: end well for the country. I don't know who it's

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Speaker 1: going to ensnare in the meantime, but it will not

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Speaker 1: end well for the country. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Trump also spoke to the press, and maybe this is

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Speaker 1: why I think he's particularly annoyed about that report. I

504
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Speaker 1: think it was a CNN report, forget who broke it,

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Speaker 1: that Trump was having this additional meeting at the G twenty,

506
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Speaker 1: which the G twenty is like a pageant for heads

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Speaker 1: of state to show up and wave and take photos,

508
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Speaker 1: but that Trump had this additional meeting there. This is

509
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Speaker 1: what he said to the New York Times about that

510
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Speaker 1: she's sitting next to put in somebody else and that's

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Speaker 1: where it is. So that meal is going through and

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Speaker 1: towards dessert. I went down just to say hello to

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Speaker 1: Milannia and while I was near a set uh really

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Speaker 1: pleasant trees more than anything else. Was not a long conversation,

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00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: but it was, you know, it could be fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Just talked about things. We actually it was very interesting.

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Speaker 1: We talked about adoption. Did Russian adoption? Yeah? I always

518
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Speaker 1: found that interesting because you know he ended that years ago.

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Speaker 1: There we go again with with Russian adoption and Trump

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Speaker 1: giving the New York Times more information. I just I

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Speaker 1: have such a disdain for the dishonesty of many of

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Speaker 1: these media organizations at this point that I would just

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Speaker 1: find a personal revulsion, especially if I were in Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's shoes, from sitting down there and sharing this information

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Speaker 1: this way. But he decided to do it. I cannot

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Speaker 1: explain it to you, my friends. Um Um, it's a

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Speaker 1: head scratcher for me. We got a new at least

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Speaker 1: report of a new Democrat slogan that's pretty amazingly bad.

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. And also I haven't yet

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Speaker 1: discussed here on the show, and I want to uh,

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Speaker 1: this shooting of a of a young of a woman

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Speaker 1: I believe she was engaged to be married soon and

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Speaker 1: Australian born woman in Minneapolis, that there's there's strange things

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Speaker 1: happening here with the way that we haven't heard very

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Speaker 1: much and there they just did a press conference earlier today,

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Speaker 1: the police in Minneapolis to the press conference. But the

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Speaker 1: way the media is running with this, there are some

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Speaker 1: questions that I want to ask and I want to

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Speaker 1: put forward some some thoughts on that, because this is

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Speaker 1: being treated very differently than other shootings. That much I

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Speaker 1: can tell you, and I think you're seeing the media

542
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: is political agenda and the agenda of their leftist narrative

543
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Speaker 1: at work in that in in some of how they've

544
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Speaker 1: covered at least that shooting. So I will talk about

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Speaker 1: that in the next hour, um, and We've got a

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Speaker 1: lot more so eight four or four nine to eight

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Speaker 1: to five, eight four nine hundred Buck also on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton post there follow me there,

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Speaker 1: any thoughts you can send me a message there. I

550
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: read them and I appreciate them, and we will be

551
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: right back. Months of polling and deliberations and focus group

552
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: testing and paying all kinds of consultants, all that stuff.

553
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Democrats for their big comeback in the mid terms.

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00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: Baby Democrats have a new slogan they would like to

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Speaker 1: unveil for us. All this coming from a reporter at Vox. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Their new slogan is a better deal, better skills, better jobs,

557
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: better wages. Uh. Not exactly inspiring, a little long, a

558
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: little repetitive, and sounds a bit like the Papa John slogan, right,

559
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: better ingredients, better pizza, which, by the way, that's actually

560
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: a pretty good slogan. A better deal, better skills, better jobs,

561
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: better wages is a little long. Uh, they might as

562
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Speaker 1: well just call it better the Democrat Party, We're better.

563
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Speaker 1: That's really all they offer, by the way, is that

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Speaker 1: they're better than the Republicans. They don't have any big

565
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: new ideas. Obamacare was the big idea, Obamacare and amnesty,

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Speaker 1: but amnesty they can't be open about. So I don't

567
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Speaker 1: really know what they're going to run on other than

568
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 1: class warfare resentment, uh, political tribalism, which exists very much

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Speaker 1: on both sides, to be fair, but but class warfare

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00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: stuff for sure. Um, maybe some single payer I don't know.

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00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what else? Uh more about fair share,

572
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: wealth redistribution? What a Democrat stand for? These days. It's

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00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: a good question. You don't hear much about it other

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Speaker 1: than you know, Russia and Trump and oh my, a

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Speaker 1: lot of lines. Let's let's take some calls here. We've

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Speaker 1: got Bury in Mississippi on w BUV. Hey, Barry, Hey Buck,

577
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: how are you. I'm good man, Thank you for calling in.

578
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: I am a talk radio junkie and you are doing

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00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: a great job. Great job, Thank you, sir. And your

580
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Speaker 1: question about the Trump's interview with New York Times. My

581
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: theory is he's been doing interviews one on one for

582
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Speaker 1: several weeks, uh, Fox and Friends a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Last week he did the Christian Guy. I think maybe

584
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Speaker 1: New York Times was just the next, uh next in line.

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Speaker 1: He just you know, gave him their shot. He's kind

586
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Speaker 1: of naive about that kind of stuff, you know, and

587
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: and so maybe he just went ahead did it. But

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Speaker 1: it sounds like, Barry, you agree with me that it

589
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: is strategically unwise for the president just to show up

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Speaker 1: and take questions from the New York Times in their

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Speaker 1: on their home turf in that way. I just don't

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Speaker 1: think that's a good idea. It sounds like you don't

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00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: think it's a good idea either. Yeah, He's like if

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Speaker 1: he feels like, if I just tell the truth, I'll

595
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: be fine, right, That's what I mean. He feels like

596
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Speaker 1: he I think the big of the President's biggest problem

597
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: with the Russia stuff is he's like, I'm innocent, So

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00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: what problems can I have here? Meanwhile, what I was

599
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: trying to say before is I know law enforcement officers

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Speaker 1: who will tell you, even if you are completely innocent,

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Speaker 1: if somebody asks you, and you know they're they're trying

602
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: to figure out stuff about, you know, a murder that

603
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: happened somewhere last night. If they ask you, hey, where

604
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: were you last night? You know, you just you want

605
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Speaker 1: a lawyer present, don't. You don't say anything? And you know,

606
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: on a Sessions thing, Trump and others are forgetting that

607
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Speaker 1: Session said I took part in the election, so I'm

608
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Speaker 1: going to refuse myself from investigating the election. That's all

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Speaker 1: he really, he took himself out of now the assistant

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Speaker 1: the deputy appointing the special prosecutor. That was really bonehead

611
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Speaker 1: and make you wonder what team he's on. Uh, he

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Speaker 1: supposed to be independent, you know, but I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't really believe that. But but let's not forget Trump only.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Sessions only refused himself from investigating the election,

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Speaker 1: which seems normal, seems right to me. He's still free

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Speaker 1: to investigate anybody else or any other actor. Yeah, but

617
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Speaker 1: that means anything that touches on Russia he can't touch, right,

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Speaker 1: that's the that's at the recusal will cover. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess. I think. Look, I think it was a mistake,

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Speaker 1: but there was a lot of pressure at the time,

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Speaker 1: and Democrats are like, oh, just just recuse yourself, Sessions

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Speaker 1: and then we'll respect you. It's not how it happens.

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Speaker 1: Barry Shields time man, thank you for calling in Ron

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Speaker 1: up in Alaska, k E. And I what's going on? Hey,

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Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm it's an honor to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: and we listen to you every day up in the

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Speaker 1: wilderness where eighty miles from the nearest road or town,

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Speaker 1: and and God bless us. An honor to talk to you, sir,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. I'm a retired US and Navy

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Speaker 1: Chief Warrant Officer of Vietnam vet UH and so I'm

631
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Speaker 1: getting up there in age a little bit. But I

632
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Speaker 1: wanted to tell your listeners that the American people, and

633
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Speaker 1: I'm talking a lot of people I talked to around

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Speaker 1: the country, friends, relative veterans, we are sick and tired

635
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: of what's going on up in the Congress and the

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00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: Senate in Washington, and we're passed that up. The country

637
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: is hurting and all they're doing is they're trying the

638
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: people that want to hurt this country are trying to

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Speaker 1: damage the president and the vice president in their administration.

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Speaker 1: It's got to end. And I loved to fly to Washington,

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Speaker 1: and I'd love to talk to uh, Chuck Schumer and

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Speaker 1: in the Republican side, and I'd like to address bolt

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Speaker 1: of them and a lot like to tell them what

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Speaker 1: the issues really are in this country. Uh, we've got

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Speaker 1: to fix things. And we've got big fires going on.

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Speaker 1: And I'm using as an example, but around the country

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Speaker 1: and all they're doing up there in Washington, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say it like it is, the Democrats, they're they're

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Speaker 1: they're playing games. Now. These people are being paid. Maybe

650
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Speaker 1: we need to cut their money off. I don't know,

651
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Speaker 1: but you definitely got to think about throwing some of

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Speaker 1: them out of office at the next election because they're

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Speaker 1: not look, they're breaking their promises. Republicans are breaking their promises. Ron.

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Speaker 1: There's is not being honest. Lisa, Lisa Murkowsky is done.

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Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, She'll never get my vote,

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Speaker 1: my wife's vote, and and I'm hearing from everybody in

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Speaker 1: Alaska that I know it's a red state Republican and

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Speaker 1: she's turned her back on our president so many times

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Speaker 1: that I don't want to hate her. I just don't

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Speaker 1: want her around. No more fair enough, Ron, She'll time

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Speaker 1: and thank you for calling it from UH up north

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Speaker 1: in Alaska. Appreciate it. UM. I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: you all about this shooting up in Minnesota that happened

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Speaker 1: police officers involved, shooting. Very different treatment of this in

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Speaker 1: the media, which raises some interesting questions. Tragic, this young woman,

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Speaker 1: this Australian woman, was shot for from what everyone has

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Speaker 1: seen and been reported so far, absolutely no reason. Uh

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that. Will also be joined by

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Speaker 1: a Ben Shapiro for some analysis of all the latest

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Speaker 1: news from today, and then of course after that O

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Speaker 1: J's parole hearing, we'll get there and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: The Freedom Hunt Rocks online too. You can hang out

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Speaker 1: with teen Buck anytime. Plus get Buck's latest news and analysis.

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Speaker 1: Go to buck Sexton dot com. That's buck Sexton dot com.

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Speaker 1: The Buck is back. Here are the facts of the

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Speaker 1: case as we know them. On July July the UM,

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Speaker 1: a woman in Minneapolis called one and said the following, Hi,

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Speaker 1: I can hear someone out in the back, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if she's having sex or being raped. The

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Speaker 1: operators said, give me the address. The caller gave an address.

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Speaker 1: The operator said, you said it's behind that address. The

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Speaker 1: caller says, and there's something out back, yup, you up?

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Speaker 1: I think she just yelled out help, but it's difficult.

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Speaker 1: The sound has been going on for a while, but

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Speaker 1: I think I don't know. I think it's I don't know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: already got a call started and help on the way

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Speaker 1: for this is the operator. You can't see anything or

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Speaker 1: just hearing a female screaming? Then? Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 1: Call er? Yet? It sounds like sex noises? But it's

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Speaker 1: been going on for a while, and I think she

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Speaker 1: tried to say help and it sounds distressed. Operator. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've got an officer on the way. What is your name?

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Speaker 1: Caller Justine operator Justine was your last name, UH and

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Speaker 1: phone number, and then the opposite of Okay, we've got

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Speaker 1: help on the way. If anything changes before we get there,

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Speaker 1: just give us a call right back. But officers should

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Speaker 1: be there soon. Officers did arrive soon, and they pulled

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Speaker 1: into this alley behind Justine Damon's house, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: have their lights on, and Justine, based on the accounts

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Speaker 1: that we have, in her pajamas, went up to the

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Speaker 1: patrol car, went up to the driver's side with two

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Speaker 1: officers in it, and Officer Mohammed nor who is in

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Speaker 1: the passenger seat inexplicably still to this point, drew his

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Speaker 1: firearm and shot Justine Damond in the abdomen, and she

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Speaker 1: bled out and died at the scene within minutes after

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Speaker 1: this incident. The officers in the vehicle did not have

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Speaker 1: their body cameras turned on, which they were supposed to,

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Speaker 1: and their dash camera for the vehicle also did not

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Speaker 1: capture any of the incident. So that was a few

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Speaker 1: days ago. The officer Mohammed Noir has not given any

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Speaker 1: statement to state investigators. It's been days. There are reports

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Speaker 1: that he's been talking to friends about this, but he

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Speaker 1: will not give an official statement as to why he

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Speaker 1: shot an unarmed woman at the driver's side of a

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Speaker 1: police vehicle, keep in mind, across the body of his partner.

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Speaker 1: So he just pulled out the gun inside the car,

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Speaker 1: shot through the window across his partner, and killed this woman.

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Speaker 1: We have no beginnings of an explanation as to why

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Speaker 1: this happened, how this could have happened. And in fact,

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Speaker 1: the police chief in Minneapolis just gave a press conference

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Speaker 1: and repeated a few times that Justine Damon didn't have

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Speaker 1: to die. She didn't have to die. That much as

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Speaker 1: clear didn't have to die, shouldn't have died. Something went

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Speaker 1: very very wrong here. You're not seeing much of a

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Speaker 1: media outcry on this issue. A woman, she's Australian born,

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Speaker 1: uh murdered by a police officer without anyone even being

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Speaker 1: able to begin to articulate what a threat might have

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Speaker 1: been or you know, think about the way the press

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Speaker 1: tree police involved shootings when there's actually a gun involved

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Speaker 1: with the person who was shot. Think about the way

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Speaker 1: the press has treated shootings where there is an individual

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Speaker 1: who is African American who has had an altercation with

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Speaker 1: a police officer. Well, there's NonStop wall to wall coverage.

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Speaker 1: There are protests. In fact, sometimes there are riots in

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Speaker 1: the case of Mike Brown. You look at these cases,

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Speaker 1: in the case of Eric Garner, UH, there are circumstances

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Speaker 1: that are not yet necessarily entirely known. But at least

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Speaker 1: there's a narrative on the police side and a narrative

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Speaker 1: on the victim side as to what happened, and we

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Speaker 1: need to get to the facts and get to the

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Speaker 1: truth of what it was. The media, of course doesn't

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Speaker 1: wait for that. They run with the narrative before we

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Speaker 1: know the full facts. But at least you can see

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Speaker 1: what the story is. You have a broad understanding of

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Speaker 1: how maybe it happened. This is beyond anything we've seen

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Speaker 1: with these uh major national, nationally covered cases of police violence,

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Speaker 1: and I would want to know why. And I think

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Speaker 1: that we can begin to see the why because once

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Speaker 1: again major media outlets are pushing a political narrative. The narrative,

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Speaker 1: of course, when it comes to police violence, when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Black lives matter, is that police are indiscriminately

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Speaker 1: I actually no, I take that back, discriminately with with discrimination,

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Speaker 1: with animus killing young black men because of racism. That's

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Speaker 1: that's the underlying thesis, the baseline, the foundational thesis of

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Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter, that police kill young black men without

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Speaker 1: cause or justification because of racism. And so even when

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Speaker 1: there are cases that could be entirely justified uses of

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Speaker 1: police force, or a case that involves a a police

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Speaker 1: officer who is himself a minority, none of that changes

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Speaker 1: the way the press initially will treat it. If the

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Speaker 1: subject is in fact a young African American male, and

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Speaker 1: especially if there is any video or audio of it,

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Speaker 1: then it becomes a national news a national news story.

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Speaker 1: Why is this one being treated differently? Why have I'm

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Speaker 1: sure many of you listening right now not heard about uh,

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Speaker 1: young Justine Damon, engaged to be married next month, who

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Speaker 1: was shot and killed by a police officer for the

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Speaker 1: act of walking up to the police cruiser that she

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Speaker 1: had called to investigate a possible disturbance. But you haven't

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Speaker 1: heard of this? Most likely I would. I would. I

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Speaker 1: would wager that very few of you listening right now

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Speaker 1: have and it wouldn't be for any reason other than

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Speaker 1: not a lot of media coverage of this, not a

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Speaker 1: lot of time spent on this. Now. I don't have

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Speaker 1: all the answer as to why that is. But I

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Speaker 1: think we can begin to see some some early evidence

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Speaker 1: as to what what is different about the narrative here.

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Speaker 1: Because if you're real goal is police reform, one would

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Speaker 1: think that murdering an unarmed woman would be an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for those who are pushing for police reform to raise

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Speaker 1: the issue. Right, wouldn't this be a time to say

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Speaker 1: that we need well police here head body cameras but

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Speaker 1: didn't turn them on, But we need to revise police tactics,

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Speaker 1: or we need to look at what happened here. We

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Speaker 1: need to look at police use of force. I mean,

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Speaker 1: whether you agree that that's a widespread problem or not.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying the activist, the so called activists who

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Speaker 1: are always telling us that there needs to be a

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Speaker 1: a new look at police tactics because of violence that

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Speaker 1: we are all suffering at the hands of police, predominantly

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Speaker 1: violence against minority men, but nonetheless police violence. Police brute lady.

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Speaker 1: These are the rallying cries, These are on the placards.

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Speaker 1: I've seen them, I've seen the protests, I've heard the rhetoric,

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Speaker 1: and yet not much of a rallying around this case.

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Speaker 1: Why is that? Well, of course, the woman in this

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Speaker 1: instance is a Caucasian female, and from what we know

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Speaker 1: of the shooter, he is a a Somali American who

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Speaker 1: was at one point celebrated by Mayor Betsy Hodges of

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis specifically for his contribution for being one of a

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Speaker 1: very small number of Muslim Somali Minnesotans on the police force.

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Speaker 1: And you get stories from the Washington Post. Keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: so this woman is killed. She's killed, and no one

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Speaker 1: is even beginning, including the shooter, to offer up any

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Speaker 1: explanation of this whatsoever. She was just shot and murdered

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Speaker 1: and called blood outside of her home. And based on

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Speaker 1: the thing we know exact, all the facts are, and

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Speaker 1: well there's no contrary narrative. And by the way, if

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Speaker 1: you had seen and I did catch some of it,

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Speaker 1: that uh press conference that was given by the Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: Police Department, They're like, uh, didn't have to die. This

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Speaker 1: was not good. Those body cameras should have been on.

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Speaker 1: There's a problem here. I mean they are they are

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Speaker 1: not standing up saying well it it was an understandable

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Speaker 1: mistake under the circumstances. Far from it. I think I

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Speaker 1: think they're getting ready to most likely have an indictment

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Speaker 1: here for manslaughter, and that's based on all the facts

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Speaker 1: we've seen. Certainly seems to be warranted here. But the

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Speaker 1: way the media covers this is instructive. Here's how the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post wrote about it just a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: So within forty eight within forty eight hours of the shooting,

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Speaker 1: this woman's fiance, this woman's family are still trying to

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Speaker 1: deal with the the horrific grief. But the concern that

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post has, it's for the shooter. Let's let

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Speaker 1: that sink in for a moment. That the Washington Post

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Speaker 1: is running stories about how worried they are about the

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Speaker 1: shooter and the shooters community. Remember the shooters a police

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Speaker 1: officer here. How often have you seen this in the past.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a police involved shooting where it

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Speaker 1: looked like the police officer was well in the wrong,

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Speaker 1: clearly in the wrong, And a major newspaper is ready

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Speaker 1: about how well you know this is? This is really

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Speaker 1: a shame. It's gonna look really bad for that police

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Speaker 1: officer in his department, and it's gonna look really bad

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Speaker 1: for you know, whatever other categorization they want to make

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Speaker 1: about that officer or whatever. The grouping they put him in.

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Speaker 1: We feel really badly for that officer. Have you ever

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Speaker 1: read that before? I'm just I'm wondering, have you ever

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Speaker 1: seen something along those lines in an incident like this

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Speaker 1: where somebody was shot and killed by an officer who

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Speaker 1: may have committed manslaughter. I'm just rack your brain for

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Speaker 1: a second. Just think about Okay. So here's what the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post writes after Minneapolis police officer uh in Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: officer and police shooting is named, Somali community braces for backlash.

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Speaker 1: Here's more of this piece. When Mohammed Nor joined the

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis Police force and was assigned to patrol the city

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Speaker 1: southwest corner, the Somali community there, the nation's largest, through

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Speaker 1: a party for him to celebrate. He was the first

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Speaker 1: Somali American officer to serve in Minneapolis Fifth Precinct and

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Speaker 1: one of fewer than a dozen Somali American officers in

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Speaker 1: the department. His presence on the squad brought Somali activists

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Speaker 1: some pride and reassurance at a time of Islamophobia in America,

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Speaker 1: a nationwide racial tension stoked in part by shootings of

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Speaker 1: black people by white police officers. Now that same Somali

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Speaker 1: community is bracing for a backlash against nor that has

855
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Speaker 1: already begun. Do you do you think that any other

856
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Speaker 1: police officer gets the benefit of the Washington Post writing

857
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Speaker 1: uh highly sympathetic profiles and um creating as much of

858
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Speaker 1: a perception of sympathy as as possible for that officer

859
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Speaker 1: before the officer has even been willing to make a statement.

860
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Speaker 1: By the way, officer, I'm not gonna say anything to anybody,

861
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Speaker 1: including state investigators right now. I don't even know how

862
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Speaker 1: that's possible, but that's where it is. You think they

863
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Speaker 1: run those editorials for any other police officers? So okay,

864
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Speaker 1: So now we have we have different standards for cops

865
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Speaker 1: based on we already knew in the past. Right, if

866
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Speaker 1: a young African American is shot by police officer, the

867
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Speaker 1: the race, the ethnicity of the officer actually doesn't necessarily matter,

868
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Speaker 1: because the narrative is that the police are a racist,

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Speaker 1: including minority members of the police department. That's the that's

870
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Speaker 1: the leftist narrative on that. But now when it's a

871
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Speaker 1: a Muslim African American police officer who does the shooting,

872
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: we have to be on guard for Islamophobia. That's that's what. Remember,

873
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: this is within two days of the shooting. He's not

874
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Speaker 1: even he's not explaining it. He's not telling anybody what happened.

875
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Speaker 1: He's not even trying to give his side of events yet.

876
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: And and but the problem with the Washington Post is

877
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Speaker 1: worried about is not police violence here. It's not a

878
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: woman was apparently uh killed for no reason at all, manslaughter. Um,

879
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: The real, the real concern here is that there'll be

880
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Speaker 1: there'll be some mean things that people write on social

881
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: media about the Somali American community in Minnesota. That's the

882
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Speaker 1: real That's what the real problem is here. You know,

883
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Speaker 1: I just I thought that it was about police violence

884
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: and body cams and police brute. I thought that was

885
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: the leftist narrative. Okay. You see, you always have to

886
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: remember the hierarchy, and in the left hierarchy, dealing with

887
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: police violence as a general concept is below. Is below.

888
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: Rallying around the Muslim community and rallying around the African

889
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: American community in this country, in this case, specifically the

890
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: Somali American community in this country. It's it's a lower

891
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: priority than showing solidarity with those communities and concerns about

892
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: Islam concerns about is lama phobia specifically. So that's what

893
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: this is. That's how the balancing works. It's not it's

894
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: really not about police violence as just an issue that

895
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: the whole country needs to be focused on. And whether,

896
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Speaker 1: by the way, whether you believe that or not. I mean,

897
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Speaker 1: I've had people on the show to talk to you

898
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: about how police in this country are actually remarkably um

899
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: good at their jobs. Um not quick to pull the trigger,

900
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: not quick to draw their firearms. America likes its police,

901
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,959
Speaker 1: not always reflected in the way the media writes about

902
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Speaker 1: our police. And look, I'm very open about the fact

903
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Speaker 1: that work for the NYPD for a while, so of

904
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Speaker 1: course I like the police. But uh, here we have

905
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Speaker 1: an incident where the cop is getting more than the

906
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt that they're running interference warm they're

907
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: running stories, oh you know, weepy eyed stories, not for

908
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: the victim who was just murdered, but for the cop

909
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: who doesn't want to saynything about her, who shot her

910
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: while she was standing at the inner pajamas next to

911
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Speaker 1: the cruiser another office in the vehicle. He didn't draws, gone,

912
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: didn't even think there was a problem. I just I

913
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: think we I think we deserve more answers here, don't

914
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: we Maybe a little more media scrutiny. Maybe we just

915
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Speaker 1: tone it down, go from a go from taking it

916
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Speaker 1: out a hundred and maybe just like seventy on the

917
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Speaker 1: Russia collusion stuff for a day so we can hear

918
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Speaker 1: about this, because I thought police interactions with civilians was

919
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: a major issue for the national media, but apparently this

920
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: time around not so much. G I wonder why seem

921
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Speaker 1: I meant to bring this up earlier, by the way,

922
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Speaker 1: because you're going to see a lot of talking about

923
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Speaker 1: the uh, the testimony of Donald Trump Jr. Before the

924
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Speaker 1: Senate Judiciary Committee, Paul Manafort Senate Judiciary Committee. You're not

925
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: going to see or hear, but you may get some

926
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Speaker 1: leaks in the media about Trump advisor and son in

927
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: law Jared Kushner's testimony before the Senate an Intelligence Committee

928
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: coming up next week. But there's another issue here from

929
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Speaker 1: the from the Comy files, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein

930
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: did say something that may may come up and be

931
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Speaker 1: a little bit of an issue for Mr Comy here, ever,

932
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Speaker 1: be proper for an FBI director to make notes of

933
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Speaker 1: a conversation in that regard and leak them to the press.

934
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Speaker 1: Would that ever be proper? Those are two different issues.

935
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Speaker 1: You know, as a general proposition, we have to understand

936
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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice we take confidentiality seriously, and so

937
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Speaker 1: when we have memoranda about our ongoing matters, we have

938
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Speaker 1: an obligation to keep that confidential. So I would take

939
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: from that that you would you would not approve of

940
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Speaker 1: any releasing of memorandum written in an interview or discussion

941
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Speaker 1: with the president to the press. The general proposition, I

942
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Speaker 1: think is quite clear, and it's what we were taught

943
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: all of us as prosecutors and agents. Do we have

944
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Speaker 1: an obligation to keep information confidential? I think that's critical

945
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Speaker 1: for vrant of reasons. You know, we have a responsibility

946
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Speaker 1: to the people who were investigating. We have responsibility to

947
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Speaker 1: the people conducting those investigations to keep our investigations confidential.

948
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Speaker 1: So comey, who is being held up by the press,

949
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Speaker 1: Now just go back. It's a fun game to play

950
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: if you look at some of the loudest voices for

951
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: editorial calumnists and talking heads and radio hosts and whomever,

952
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: how how they how they were describing Comy after the

953
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Speaker 1: press conference where he said no charges for Hillary. Then

954
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: how they're describing Comy after the uh reopening, the temporary

955
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: reopening of the Hillary investigation right before the election, and

956
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: then how they describe Comy after he comes out and

957
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: does all this stuff about the Trump memo and all

958
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: this other uh comey stuff that's been going on. Um,

959
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: you see people just complete turning themselves into total hacks.

960
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: Whatever they can do to to ride the Komy wave

961
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: when they can, and then to uh to did just

962
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Speaker 1: move as far away from when they have to as

963
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: they as they can. Uh. That's that's been very instructive,

964
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Speaker 1: I think, to see how dishonest and dishonorable the press

965
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Speaker 1: can be. Um. But this is to keep this in money.

966
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Speaker 1: He's also writing a book. By the way, he's shopping

967
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Speaker 1: it around. It's gonna get a lot of money. I

968
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 1: was thinking's so interesting these former government official memoirs are

969
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: almost uniformly insanely boring, and yet publishing houses as a

970
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Speaker 1: I guess it's considered a almost a vanity piece for them,

971
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: or a uh that vanity pieces in the right word,

972
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: prestige piece. You know, they just they have to have

973
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Speaker 1: former senior so and so's memoir and I mean these

974
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Speaker 1: memoirs usually are just like mine, a Loti. George Bush's

975
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Speaker 1: memoir was not. It was not it was not a

976
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Speaker 1: great read. It was kind of like, uh, never mind.

977
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Speaker 1: I mean the Clinton memoirs, all four thousand of them

978
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Speaker 1: that you know, Hillary's had ghost writers put out for

979
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: think She's had seventeen books written. Hillary Clinton's had had

980
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: them written, right. Uh, they're just one is more more

981
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: painful to read than the next. But yeah, I think

982
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: that the comy the comy memo situation that just keep

983
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: an eye on that. He's not gonna get prosecuted for it,

984
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: but it's gonna come up in the months ahead. You'll see.

985
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: We've got more to stay with me. He's holding the

986
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Speaker 1: line for America. Buck Sexton his back. So Kentucky Sentator

987
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: Rampaul and healthcare, let's get into it, shall we. Rampaul is,

988
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: according to The Hill newspaper, is opening the door to

989
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: helping GOP leadership get a healthcare bill over a key

990
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: procedural hurdle. The Kentucky Republican said on Thursday that he

991
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: would support the Motion to Proceed to the House past

992
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: healthcare bill, which is being used as a vehicle for

993
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: any action if he could get a deal on amendments.

994
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: If they want my vote, they have to at least

995
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: agree that we're gonna have a vote and clean repeal,

996
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: Paul told reporters and quote, Okay, so we will see

997
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: if they actually get to repeal vote. Part of the

998
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: problem with the way the whole healthcare debate goes is

999
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: here's how Republicans talk about the the healthcare bill, Obamacare,

1000
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: and here's just sort of the general tone. And look,

1001
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Speaker 1: I think Mulvaney is as a competent guy and and

1002
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: is doing a pretty good job. But here's a version

1003
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: of of how Republicans discuss the issue that Jonathan Gruber,

1004
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: who helped fashion Obamacare, his methodology is still being used

1005
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Speaker 1: by the CBO to measure the replacement and the repeal bill.

1006
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Speaker 1: So it's it's almost like that it's not a fair analysis. Um,

1007
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Speaker 1: And we could give examples. I've talked before about how

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Speaker 1: they assume at CBO that if you're on Medicaid and

1009
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Speaker 1: you're getting that program for free and the federal mandate

1010
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: to have insurance goes away, that you will give up

1011
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: that free program and choose to be uninsured, which is

1012
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Speaker 1: just it just nonsensical until you realize the methodology that

1013
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: they're using. So, look, the CBO is doing their job.

1014
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Speaker 1: They're doing the best job they can given the methodologies

1015
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Speaker 1: that they're required to use. Um. But I don't think

1016
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Speaker 1: anybody around here is making their decisions based upon the

1017
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Speaker 1: CBO score. All right, so a student analysis. Although I

1018
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Speaker 1: think I could hear some of you kind of falling

1019
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 1: asleep during that, I don't think you were particularly fired

1020
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Speaker 1: up by it, right, I mean, what he's saying is true,

1021
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Speaker 1: and he's using words like methodology. Uh, And I'm not

1022
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Speaker 1: I'm not putting him down for speaking to the American

1023
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: people are speaking to the press about this issue like

1024
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Speaker 1: adults and basing it on facts and reason and logic.

1025
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: But here's how Democrats talk about the health care bill.

1026
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Speaker 1: We haven't seen the CBO report yet. We do know

1027
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Speaker 1: that the many more people noise, hundreds of thousands of

1028
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Speaker 1: people will die if this bill passes. Hundreds of thousands

1029
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Speaker 1: will die, says Nancy Pelosi. Bernie Sanders Center from Vermont says, yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty much the same thing. Thousands of Americans will die

1031
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Speaker 1: if you are sick, if you have a chronic illness

1032
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: and you can't get the kind of care you need,

1033
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: you die, well, maybe you will just suffer year after

1034
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 1: year after year piece of legislation. And by the way,

1035
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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders later went on to to deny that he

1036
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Speaker 1: ever said that the health care bill would kill people,

1037
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: because if you're gonna sit down with people on both

1038
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Speaker 1: sides of the aisle, some Democrats have brand of Republicans,

1039
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Speaker 1: the Party of Death, for example, calling the tax cuts

1040
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Speaker 1: in the Senate Healthcare bill blood money. You yourself, as

1041
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,959
Speaker 1: a Republicans, are potentially killing Americans? Is that rhetoric irresponsible?

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Speaker 1: And does it provide an impass to compromise if you're

1043
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: gonna sit very people that you've now said I want

1044
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Speaker 1: to kill people. I never said. Let's not you're using

1045
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: rhetoric that I didn't use. This is what I said,

1046
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Speaker 1: what I said, and it's not me. This is a

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Speaker 1: dozen or more studies, a dozen or more. He says, Wait,

1048
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Speaker 1: but what what did he say again? Thousands of Americans

1049
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Speaker 1: will die? If Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's that's saying

1050
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Speaker 1: people will die. I didn't say that. Dozens of studies

1051
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Speaker 1: didn't say that thing that I said. But you know whatever,

1052
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Speaker 1: um so, yes, But that's how that's how Democrats do this.

1053
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Speaker 1: They talk about how Republicans want to kill people. Republicans

1054
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: are mean. They want grandma to get rolled off the

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01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: cliff in or wheelchair. They want poor people to have

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Speaker 1: their teeth rotting out of their heads and not get

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Speaker 1: you know, not get emergency room care. And that's how

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Speaker 1: they we got the Mulvaney approach. Well, the method allegy

1059
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Speaker 1: is gonna be very complicated here because the CBO projections

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Speaker 1: for Medicaid fund to extracted that for a decade. And

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Speaker 1: then you have Bernie Sanders like they want to kill

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Speaker 1: so many thousands of people they were all gonna die.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if if you're not somebody that spends

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Speaker 1: a lot of time sitting around looking at spreadsheets of

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Speaker 1: of healthcare costs and the long term growth in federal

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Speaker 1: healthcare spending as a function of GDP and blobbity blah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you got on the one side people saying, well,

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Speaker 1: they want people to die. On the other side, you've

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Speaker 1: got people that are talking about numbers and you know, budget,

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Speaker 1: physical responsibility. Where are the Republicans who are standing up

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Speaker 1: and saying, you know what it would mean if we

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Speaker 1: got rid of all this stuff? It would actually be

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Speaker 1: cheaper to go to the doctor. You know what would

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Speaker 1: mean if doctors had to deal with real market competition,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't be able to keep you there waiting for

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Speaker 1: two hours because the next time you go to a

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Speaker 1: different doctor, well, if your plan only lets you see

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Speaker 1: one doctor or one specialist in your area, and that

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Speaker 1: specialist makes you wait two hours, that specialist makes you

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Speaker 1: pay out of pocket for things you don't even need

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Speaker 1: to do that weren't even necessary, and didn't even tell

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Speaker 1: you about it. That specials maybe even I've had this happen,

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Speaker 1: just cancels your appointment. Sorry, you know, the doctor had

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Speaker 1: the doctor had to go to the Hampton's earlier today.

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Speaker 1: But but I'm here. What what do you mean? You know,

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Speaker 1: if there were real market forces at work that would

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Speaker 1: be less likely to happen, healthcare would be cheaper. An

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Speaker 1: m R I wouldn't cost today basically what an m

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Speaker 1: R I cost twenty or thirty years ago. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, these these are machines that like stretch back

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Speaker 1: in terms of their technology, the basic technology to the

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Speaker 1: you know, the days when the when the Berlin Wall

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Speaker 1: was still up, and yet here we are you still

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Speaker 1: get a massive fee or massive bill rather from hospitals

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Speaker 1: for outdated services. You know, you all know about you know,

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Speaker 1: the thirty dollar advil pill and all this stuff, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the market can fix us, but no one's

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Speaker 1: making the compelling case for it right now. In fact,

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Speaker 1: everyone's just making a case that they can do a

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Speaker 1: better version, a better version of the government making these decisions.

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Speaker 1: The reality has to be somebody standing up and telling

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Speaker 1: the American people that you're going to be able to

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Speaker 1: make more of these decisions. American ingenuity and the forces

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Speaker 1: of the free market and capitalism will do much more

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Speaker 1: for you than the government everywhere when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the provision of excellent, efficient, timely effective healthcare. But that

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Speaker 1: means that you're gonna have to deal with, you know,

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Speaker 1: paying a little more for healthcare as a general proposition.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna mean that it's not just a copay every

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Speaker 1: time you go in, and it's gonna mean that, you know,

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Speaker 1: you can't expect that the government is gonna just you know,

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Speaker 1: take care of all this stuff. But that's just not

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Speaker 1: popular right now. It's so much easier to say, oh no,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna turn healthcare into the giant endless

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Speaker 1: you know cake that you can eat as much as

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Speaker 1: you want. It doesn't make you fat, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: it makes you stronger, and it never runs out that

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Speaker 1: that's a lie. But healthcare in America right now is

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Speaker 1: largely built on lines. All right, we're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: break here. We're gonna talk to Ben Shapiro in a minute.

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Speaker 1: Stay with me. Welcome back everyone. We have Ben Shapiro

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Speaker 1: joining us now. He's editor in chief of Daily Wire

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Speaker 1: dot com. He's a syndicated columnist, host of The Ben

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Speaker 1: Shapiro Show. Also so writes a column for National Review. Ben.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you back. Thanks for having me. Tell

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Speaker 1: me about your piece on the Daily Wire. Only of

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Speaker 1: Republicans think Trump Junior met with Russia. But here's why

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Speaker 1: that number isn't nuts. Okay, So, the fact that Trump

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Speaker 1: Junior did meet with Russia, I mean, he talked about it,

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Speaker 1: he admitted an email. So there's no real controversy that

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Speaker 1: he met with at least people who were claiming to

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Speaker 1: be emissaries of the Russian government. But the reason that

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Speaker 1: that isn't nuts, that only of Republicans are saying that

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Speaker 1: the meeting happened is because the real truth is that

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Speaker 1: most Republicans are now answering posters. Are answering the posters motives.

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Speaker 1: They're not answering the posters question. So we all know.

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Speaker 1: When we get a question from a poster, do you

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Speaker 1: think Donald Trump Junior met with Russia? What we're really

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01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: hearing is do you think it is important that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump Junior met with this this Russian lawyer? And our

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01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: answer is no. So it's it's so. What we're doing

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Speaker 1: now is we are reading into what we perceived the

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01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: motives of the polsters. To me, which is not a

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Speaker 1: terrible thing to do, considering the posters do have motives.

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01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: It's not going to give you, you know, particularly answerable results,

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Speaker 1: verifiable results. But I think there is a lot of

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Speaker 1: that going on. I think when people talk to posters

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Speaker 1: these days about whether you approve or disapproved Trump, there

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01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: are a strong number of people who are going to

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Speaker 1: say that they approve of Trump just to say f

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Speaker 1: you to the to the posters. Uh. And I think

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Speaker 1: that there's you know, a lot of that when it

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01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: comes to policy or if there's a if there's a

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Speaker 1: poll about Trump's tweets, you know, like we may think, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, I didn't really like that particularly tweet.

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Speaker 1: But the poster who's calling up, he's just looking for

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Speaker 1: an excuse to rip Trump, So forget it. I'm not

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01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: going to be part of that. So I'll just say

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01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: that I love Trump's tweet. I think there's that that

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Speaker 1: mentality has settled in on the right a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it's completely unjustified. Speaking of polls,

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Speaker 1: you also have up on Deli Wire that a vast

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Speaker 1: majority of Americans think government has to ensure universal health insurance.

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Speaker 1: Ben I feel like this is the part of the

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Speaker 1: healthcare debate that doesn't get nearly enough attention, and that

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Speaker 1: is that, for the most part, now both sides of

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Speaker 1: the political aisle are going along with the idea that

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Speaker 1: that the government has to provide everybody with with not

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Speaker 1: really even health insurance, but actually health care. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: people who have identified health insurance with healthcare, they think

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Speaker 1: health coverage means that they're going to be provided health care,

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Speaker 1: even though people are covered by Medicaid, and that doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that they actually achieve healthcare any better than they

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Speaker 1: would if they just went into the emergency room. What

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Speaker 1: the polls shows is that three out of ten Republicans

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Speaker 1: say that it is the government's job to provide health

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Speaker 1: coverage for everyone. One of those three in center Republican

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Speaker 1: is probably President Trump. I mean. President Trump said back

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Speaker 1: in January very openly that he thinks that any planned

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Speaker 1: humor votes is going to end with universal coverage, everyone

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Speaker 1: being able to get coverage, regardless of what they can

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Speaker 1: afford to bear. Well, once you say that, the Democrats

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Speaker 1: of one, I mean, then you're at single payer. It's

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Speaker 1: just a question of how fast you get there, how

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Speaker 1: quickly you achieve it. And this has been the fundamental

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Speaker 1: disconnect on the right. Like you expected this sort of

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Speaker 1: stuff from the left, but the right has brought into

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Speaker 1: the concept that government's job is to ensure that everyone

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Speaker 1: has health coverage. And once you do that, then you're

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Speaker 1: only going to be able to do that through an

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Speaker 1: individual mandate or through actual nationalization of the health care system.

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Speaker 1: Those are the only two options. There is no third option.

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Speaker 1: You're you can have quality and affordability, but not universality

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Speaker 1: if you have a free market. But if you don't

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Speaker 1: have but if you want universality, the only way to

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Speaker 1: get it is to force people to buy health insurance

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Speaker 1: or to or to just nationalize the system entirely and

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Speaker 1: then cover people what they want or not. At a

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Speaker 1: very simplified level, this just comes down to if you

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Speaker 1: let people make a choice to get health insurance or not.

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Speaker 1: Despite all the incentives, all the subsidies, all the things

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Speaker 1: that you can do as a government short of literally

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Speaker 1: mandating it, some people choose not to have insurance, and

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Speaker 1: that means that some people will go bankrupt when they

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Speaker 1: need medical care. But the government doesn't want to say

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Speaker 1: that that's right. And one of the things that's really

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Speaker 1: crazy is that Republicans won't even say that. So when

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Speaker 1: you have the CBO reports coming out about the various

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Speaker 1: versions of the Republican bill that have been presented, and

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Speaker 1: it'll say twenty two million more people will be uninsured.

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Speaker 1: And then you look in the bill in in the

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Speaker 1: CBO report and and I'll say two thirds of those

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Speaker 1: people will drop out because there's no longer the individual mandate.

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Speaker 1: What that means is that there are fourteen million or

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Speaker 1: fifteen million people who are saying they don't want to

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Speaker 1: buy insurance and are currently being forced by law to

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Speaker 1: buy insurance. That's not a good thing. That's a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: But it's it. But but even the Republicans are too

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Speaker 1: wary of stepping on toes to make the case that,

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Speaker 1: of course, universal insurance should not be the goal. The

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Speaker 1: goal should be quality and affordability so that you can

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Speaker 1: get it if you want it, but that you have

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Speaker 1: to make responsible decisions in order to be able to

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Speaker 1: get health insurance when you're healthy. And the truth is,

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Speaker 1: the vast majority of people in the United States already

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Speaker 1: have for existing conditions. It's called having employer based insurance.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're all in group insurance programs if you

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Speaker 1: have a job. The individual insurance market is like eight

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Speaker 1: percent of the entire population. So we're talking about remaking

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Speaker 1: the entire health insurance system, the entire health care system. Actually,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about doing all of that for what is

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Speaker 1: it best for or five of the population, because there's

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Speaker 1: still a bunch of people who aren't covered. What do

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Speaker 1: you think the GOP senators should do at this stage

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Speaker 1: of the game, considering that, uh, Mitch McConnell looks like

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Speaker 1: he's just flailing at this point, that they've said they

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Speaker 1: may go forward with an actual, an actual repeal instead

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Speaker 1: of just calling some new bill of repeal. What do

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Speaker 1: you think they should do? What do you think they

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Speaker 1: will do? Ben, I mean, I hope that they go

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Speaker 1: through it with a with a full scale repeal. There's

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Speaker 1: a question of what they can do under reconciliation. So

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Speaker 1: they can try and push through a repeal bill that

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Speaker 1: repeals the regulations of Obamacare plus the taxes, plus the mandates.

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Speaker 1: That would be my preferred option right now. What they're

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Speaker 1: talking about in their current repeal bill is getting word

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Speaker 1: of these subsidies, getting word of the mandates, getting rid

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Speaker 1: of the taxes, but leaving the regulations in place, which

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Speaker 1: is why you're seeing those CBO estimates that really inflate

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Speaker 1: insurance costs. If you're still forcing insurance companies to cover

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Speaker 1: pre existing conditions but there are no subsidies and there's

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Speaker 1: no mandate, then of course the costs are going to

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Speaker 1: rise dramatically. So it depends on the bill they present.

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Speaker 1: They should try and push a full repeal, but the

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Speaker 1: question is can they legally do that under reconciliation. If not,

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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, going back to the drawing

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Speaker 1: board with the bill that they had in the Senate,

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Speaker 1: even though I don't like the bill, particularly much. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that it repeals Obamacare. The big question here

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Speaker 1: is not whether it repeals obamicca as. The big question

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Speaker 1: is whether it is better or worse, And they should

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Speaker 1: stop using the word repeal in a place. They should

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Speaker 1: just say, listen, what we've got here is a bad system.

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Speaker 1: It's going to take us a while to get back

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Speaker 1: to a remarket system because too many people are dependent.

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Speaker 1: So as a first transitory step, here's what we're gonna do, right,

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Speaker 1: And then even I who want a full scale repeal,

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Speaker 1: like right off the bat, I would say, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: if this is the first step, then I'm going to

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Speaker 1: give you a little bit of rope. But if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna tell me that this is full scale repeal and

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Speaker 1: then you're gonna sell me something that's not repealed, then

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Speaker 1: the answer is no, I'm not gonna let you say,

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Speaker 1: as a final step that this is your replacement solution

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Speaker 1: when it leaves all of the Albamica regulations in place.

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Speaker 1: We're speaking of Ben Shapiro. He's editor in chief of

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Speaker 1: Daily wire dot Com and host of The Ben Shapiro Show.

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Speaker 1: Ben uh Bill Nye has said that old people this

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Speaker 1: is up on Daily wire dot com. Old people have

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Speaker 1: to die for us to stop global warming. I tried

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Speaker 1: to watch some of his show on Netflix, and I'm

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Speaker 1: actually somebody who really likes Netflix. It made me think

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Speaker 1: maybe I should just cut off my Netflix subscription. It

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Speaker 1: was so unwatchably terrible. Bill Nye saves the world. But

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Speaker 1: this broader theme of save the world, have less children,

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Speaker 1: save the world? Um, old people have to die. The

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Speaker 1: left says this off with more regularity, feels like these days.

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Speaker 1: NPR just tweeted out, I think the last twenty four hours,

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Speaker 1: the ways that you can help save the world from

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Speaker 1: you know, CEO two global warming and it's be a vegetarian,

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Speaker 1: have less kids, take less plane rides, don't drive cars. Wow. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is stuff that a normal person would say, you're crazy.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, this is becoming mainstream on the left. It

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Speaker 1: has been mainstream for a while. Really, yeah, it has

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Speaker 1: been been stream. I mentioned that that Oprah Winfrey said

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Speaker 1: the same thing about race back in two dozen of

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Speaker 1: their team that in two thousand of their teen Oprah

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Speaker 1: Winfrey said that all the old white people are going

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Speaker 1: to have to die in or for racisms. That what

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01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: seems very wedded to this idea that if the populations

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Speaker 1: they don't like could just set, everything will be okay.

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Speaker 1: This seems like a pretty sick, perverse perspective, don't we

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01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: on the right will always joke Okay, well if left

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Speaker 1: this don't have any kids, then in a generation will

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Speaker 1: have beaten them demographically. But we don't actually want left

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Speaker 1: us not to have kids. We like kids. Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: anti abortion, we like kids. We'd like for people to

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01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 1: have kids. Uh. This this push by the left that

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01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: we're not going to try and convince you, We're just

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Speaker 1: going to wait until the people we don't like get

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Speaker 1: old and die. Uh. It's not a particularly Republican notion,

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Speaker 1: like smaller republican notion. No, it's certainly not. But I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised to see how open it is these days that

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Speaker 1: as you point out that older populations, uh children don't

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Speaker 1: have babies, there's nothing that is too much for the

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Speaker 1: global warming cult to put forward. You can, you can

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Speaker 1: justify anything under the rubric of well, it's saving the

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Speaker 1: planet and that's not an exaggeration. That's why with Bill

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01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: Night saved the world with his show. They say some

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01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: crazy stuff on there. Oh yeah, I mean beyond all

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01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 1: the global warming stuff. They also think they're saving the

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Speaker 1: world by telling people that really they're their innate desires

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01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: to have sex with everything up to and including trees.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's really an awful show. I mean it's

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01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: if you even watch one segments. It was not for

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01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: any and you watch one segment of it and you

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01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: feel like you've lost half your brainin power immediately, which

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01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: may in factor the plan. Maybe the plan is to

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01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: actually soul suck everybody who watches this show, and then

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01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: eventually it's like invasion of the body Snatchers and Bill

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01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: Night just seizes whatever is left of your of your

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01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: central nervous system and used it to control you. Because

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Speaker 1: I can't explain otherwise why anyone would think the show

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01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: is good. Before we can let you go back to

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01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: do battle with social justice warriors across the country and

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01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: and on the interwebs, you got to tell us about

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01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: what's going on with Berkeley College. Sounds like you're the

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01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 1: latest conservative to get the to get the what the

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01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: slow roll treatment? Are they banning you? Are you going

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01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: what's happening? Yeah? So, I mean basically it's the slow

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01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: roll treatment. So what they said was I was supposed

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Speaker 1: to speak in September for for Berkeley. I spoke there

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01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: last year, no problem, right and no no protesters nothing. Uh,

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: this year we had we had put in all the

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Speaker 1: paperwork CRS, the College Republicans have put in all the

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Speaker 1: paperwork sponsored by Young Americans Foundation. Take him a ten

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01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 1: week notice and said, you know, we'd like one of

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Speaker 1: these venues. And Berkeley got back and said, none of

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Speaker 1: those venues are available, not available on the day, we'll

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01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: get vaculator. And so this is exactly the same sort

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01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: of thing they did with Han Culture. They kept pushing, Okay,

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01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna try this venue and then we'll do a

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01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: different date, that date isn't gonna work, so maybe we'll

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01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: do it in the middle of the day and maybe

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01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: won't really give you a big venue. And so they're

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01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: kind of they were the kind of jerking us around.

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01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: We still haven't heard back formally. Then they're now saying

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Speaker 1: in the press that they are going to facilitate the event,

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Speaker 1: make sure that it happens with the venue of the

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Speaker 1: appropriate size. I certainly hope that's the case, because it's not.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see them, So I mean, those are those

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Speaker 1: are there two choices. So the disadvantages folks of infringing

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Speaker 1: on on a lawyer's First Amendment rights. Uh, there you

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01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: have it. It's not a good idea. Bet Schapire, everybody

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01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 1: check out his latest on Delhi wire dot com, where

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Speaker 1: he's the editor in chief. Also, you can listen to

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Speaker 1: the Ben Shapiro Show. Ben always appreciate you making the

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Speaker 1: time first. Thank you, sir, Thanks so much. Team. We

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Speaker 1: are going to hit a break, gonna talk to you

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Speaker 1: about the O. J. Simpson parole hearing today and oh

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Speaker 1: so much more in just a few Stay with me,

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with America. Now are the Freedom Hut is

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01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: fired up as team? Buck assembles shouldered as shoulder shields

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Speaker 1: high call in eight four four nine hundred Buck, that's

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Speaker 1: eight four four d to eight to five. My loan

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Speaker 1: is to grant your parole effective when eligible. And I

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Speaker 1: concur with Commissioner Corda and grant parole. And in addition,

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Speaker 1: our decision, although difficult, is fair and just. I concur

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Speaker 1: with the commission corner and agreed to grant parole. Mr Simpson.

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Speaker 1: I do vote to grant parole when eligible, and that

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Speaker 1: will conclude this hearing. Well. O J. Simpsons getting out everybody.

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Speaker 1: His parole hearing was today and there was a temporary

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Speaker 1: pause even over at CNN in Russia Trump collusion coverage

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01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: to uh really engage in a bit of nineties crime

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Speaker 1: drama nostalgia for the O. J. Simpson trial. Back in

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Speaker 1: UH so O J. Had his parole hearing. He is,

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Speaker 1: in fact now scheduled to get out of prison. He's

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Speaker 1: serving a nine to thirty three year sentence for an

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Speaker 1: armed robbery in Las Vegas, where he said he was

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Speaker 1: trying to get back memorabilia and personal effects. He has

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Speaker 1: served nine years of that sentence and he will be

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Speaker 1: out on parole starting in October. Uh. You know the

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Speaker 1: the the first of all, I wanted to just play

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Speaker 1: for you. This is what O. J. Simpson said in

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Speaker 1: his own uh in support of his of his parole

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Speaker 1: today during the hearing. And I think jaws were dropping

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Speaker 1: all across the country just in any of it, In

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Speaker 1: any of that, I've done my time. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: done it as well and as respectfully is I think

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Speaker 1: anybody can. I think if you talked to them wardens them,

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Speaker 1: they'll tell you I've been I gave him my word.

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01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,759
Speaker 1: I believe in the jury system. I've honored their verdict.

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Speaker 1: I have not complained for nine years. All I've done

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Speaker 1: is trying to be helpful and encourage the guys around there. Man,

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Speaker 1: do your time uh fighting court and don't do anything

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01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna extend your time. And that's the life I've

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Speaker 1: tried to live because I want to get back to

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Speaker 1: my kids. So sure enough, Yeah, O J has said

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Speaker 1: that you know, he's trying to you know, be an exempt,

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Speaker 1: an exemplar for other prisoners. He also said in a

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Speaker 1: different part of the hearing that he has taken quote

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Speaker 1: to alternative to violence classes. Well a little late for

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Speaker 1: that one. It is, of course, almost universally believed that

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Speaker 1: he got away with double murder back killing his wife

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Speaker 1: and a a friend of his wife's who just happened

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Speaker 1: to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Speaker 1: If you have not seen the FX series, uh, the

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Speaker 1: O J. Simpson f X series last year, I highly

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Speaker 1: recommend you go back and watch it. It is really

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Speaker 1: well done. I thought it was excellent and the Cuban

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Speaker 1: Cuba Gooding Jr. Uh does a fantastic job playing O. J.

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Speaker 1: Simpson and that which I wouldn't have thought until I

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Speaker 1: saw it, but he actually did a really really, really

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Speaker 1: good job. So yes, so o J is getting out it.

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Speaker 1: I remember the trial pretty well. I see. This is

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Speaker 1: why everybody it was paying attention to the hearing questions

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Speaker 1: to everybody. But this is why all the cable news channels,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people really built their media careers, in fact,

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Speaker 1: off of the o J trial. I think Great Events

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Speaker 1: Sustern really got going because of the o J trial

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Speaker 1: and her legal and analysis coverage of it. It was

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Speaker 1: I know, it was a big thing for Harald Rivera.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even remember all these I was young.

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Speaker 1: I was, gosh, thirteen years old or fourteen years old

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Speaker 1: something like that when the o J trial was happening,

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Speaker 1: thirteen years old. Uh, and it just was on TV

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Speaker 1: all day long and it was the single biggest show.

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Speaker 1: You know. It was pre reality TV, really pre internet.

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Speaker 1: The only Internet people had was like CompuServe at that time.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, and maybe you had a o L.

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Speaker 1: I was like, hello, welcome, you know you've got Meryl

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Uh So to have a reality

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Speaker 1: TV show, a courtroom drama like that that was on

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Speaker 1: for so many months and just brought in so much

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Speaker 1: of the hot button issues at the time, you know,

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Speaker 1: crime and racial tension were at a particularly there were

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Speaker 1: particularly tough point then. It was after the Rodney King verdict,

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Speaker 1: and so there was a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 1: animosity over police and issues of race, and and the O. J.

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Speaker 1: Simpsons trold has brought all together. I mean O J.

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Speaker 1: Was a double murderer, a wife beater, but he was

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Speaker 1: an incredibly famous, rich athlete. He was a black American.

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Speaker 1: You know, you add all of these things together and

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01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: it just was this super combustible mix. And the whole

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Speaker 1: I mean the whole country was watching. I remember, and

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Speaker 1: I also really remember remember very well. This is one

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Speaker 1: of those things never in my my I was in

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Speaker 1: primary school. I was in the eighth grade when this happened.

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Speaker 1: And I remember that the teacher in my classroom had

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Speaker 1: gotten a radio because everyone wanted to listen to the

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Speaker 1: verdict live. And we had all I was only an

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Speaker 1: eighth rade. We had all been following the trial. And

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Speaker 1: when they finally read out that jury verdict, if you remember,

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Speaker 1: we the jury and the aboved entitle Action find the

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Speaker 1: defendant O. Oorenthal James Simpson not guilty of the crime

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Speaker 1: of murder and violation of PINO could Section A A

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Speaker 1: felony upon the Cole Brown Simpson a human being as

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Speaker 1: charged Account one of the information. Superior Court of the

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Speaker 1: State of California, County of Los Angeles, in the matter

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Speaker 1: of the People of State of California versus Oorenthal James Simpson,

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Speaker 1: we the jury and the above entitle action find the

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Speaker 1: defendant Oorenthal James Simpson not guilty of the crime of

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Speaker 1: murder and violation of PENO could Section seven A a

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Speaker 1: felony upon Ronald Lyle Goldman, a human being as charged

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Speaker 1: account two of the information. When they finally read it out,

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Speaker 1: I remember feeling like wow that the justice system in

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Speaker 1: this country is not what I thought it was, even

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Speaker 1: as a as a young kid. So so you can

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Speaker 1: you can, in fact get away with a double murder,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I I want to just mention this

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01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 1: about the O. J. Simpson The People, The People Versus O. J.

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01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: Simpson show on f X. The most compelling scene in

1483
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 1: that entire series, it's a series of mini series, I think,

1484
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: was when Ron Goldman, who was member Nicole Brown was

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01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: murdered by O. J. And then you know, Ron Goldman. Um,

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01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess technically we have to say allegedly

1487
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: murdered by o J. Right, but for legal reasons. Uh,

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01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: but he did lose a wrongful death suit, so I

1489
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 1: don't really know how that works in terms of the

1490
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 1: legalities of it. But Ron Goldman's you know what you

1491
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: can say about o J. Ron Goldman's father sat down

1492
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: with the distric attorney. Now, this is a fictionalized account

1493
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: of it, but that was the most power for me,

1494
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: the most powerful sequence in the entire mini series. He's

1495
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: essentially saying, you know, my son was just a good

1496
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 1: guy who just was dropping off sunglasses and was murdered

1497
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: by this maniac. And everyone's talking about like what a

1498
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: great quarterback he is and police and police African American

1499
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: community issues. But you know, my son was just a

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01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: nice guy who volunteered and was a good guy, was

1501
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: murdered brutally. You know, where's my justice? I mean it is.

1502
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: It is a gut wrenching It is a powerful scene

1503
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: in that in that FX series that and I do

1504
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: think that Ron Goldman's family uh didn't get you know

1505
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: that there was never enough focus on not only do

1506
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: O J kill his wife? That he had been again allegedly,

1507
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 1: I guess, uh that he had been abusing. Uh, that's

1508
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: that's just we have tapes so that we know about that.

1509
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: But also that he killed this guy who was just there.

1510
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 1: It's uh amazing that somebody could get away with such

1511
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: an obvious double murder like that. But you know, it

1512
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: was also early on in the history of d N

1513
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: A and uh in the uses of DNA and criminal cases. Okay,

1514
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: So I jumped away though from the uh what it

1515
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: was like when I heard the verdict. So there I

1516
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: am sitting with my classmates, and sure enough the teacher

1517
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: had gotten a radio. Is the only time I think

1518
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 1: in my entire grammar school career that we had taken

1519
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: out of radio to hear the news, because remember this

1520
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: is pre internet, pre cell phone. Gosh, it feels like

1521
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:34,799
Speaker 1: forever ago now. And when they said not guilty, I

1522
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: lost my faith in the justice system temporarily. And I

1523
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 1: also remember, and I just have to share this with

1524
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: you because there's a very vivid memory. I went to

1525
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: a Catholic school here in New York City and it

1526
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 1: had a very small minority population per class. I'd say

1527
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: if there were forty students of class. We usually had

1528
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: about four or five MI alority students, four or five

1529
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: students who were African American. UM. That was usually the

1530
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: breakdown per class. So, I mean, maybe it was ten

1531
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: percent overall of the class. UM. So. I remember a

1532
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: couple of the students, a couple of the black students,

1533
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: one of whom was actually a very good friend of mine,

1534
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: when the verdict was read and everyone around the room

1535
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: kind of looked like they had just been gut punched.

1536
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: A couple of my friends, a couple of my fellow students,

1537
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: and one of whom was a very good friend of mine,

1538
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: standing up cheering wildly, loudly, just cheering as cheering like

1539
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,759
Speaker 1: like the their favorite team had just won the Super Bowl,

1540
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: and running around not just the classroom, but running around

1541
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 1: the school, pointing at people and yelling in your face,

1542
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: in your face, the juice is loose in your face. Uh.

1543
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: And And I was shocked, I mean, the teachers were

1544
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 1: so it was so shocking to all of us that

1545
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: there was no one did, there was no disciplinary measure

1546
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: taken or anything. People were just we all just kind

1547
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: of decided, I guess, to move on. We were sitting

1548
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: there just thinking to ourselves, what what just happened? What?

1549
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: What was that? Um? But it was I think indicative

1550
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: of a mindset there was, and it comes across in

1551
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: the FX mini series, and there was a mindset that

1552
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: this was for the black community in America. UM. Now,

1553
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: I'm not saying everyone had this mindset, but there was

1554
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: out there at the time a mindset that for the

1555
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 1: black community in America, this was almost a form of

1556
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: payback that there was so much injustice done to the

1557
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,759
Speaker 1: black community in the past that O J. Simpson literally

1558
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: getting away with double murder was a corrective for all

1559
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: of America's ills. It mean, it just really reprehensible and

1560
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: and immoral and twisted thinking. But it was out there,

1561
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: and I remember, I remember people saying it. I remembered

1562
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: hearing it, and we all I had very vivid memories

1563
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: of that O J. Trial, which just it was on

1564
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: all the time, people were all talking about it. It

1565
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: was I think the single most covered news event that

1566
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: I can remember. Before nine eleven, and before that, the

1567
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:21,959
Speaker 1: whole uh, you know, attack and the phenomenon of Islamic

1568
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: terrorism became such a part of our day to day

1569
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: lives in terms of our discussion and the O J

1570
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: trial was seared into my mind as a young young guy. UM,

1571
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: and I just never forgot it. So anyway, So O

1572
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: J is getting paroled. Uh, he's gonna be a relatively

1573
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 1: free man. I mean obviously still has to go through

1574
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 1: some parole procedures and has some limitations. Um. And the

1575
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: country really today, I mean it doesn't at this point.

1576
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: It's been so long since the trial, but I think

1577
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: that just the country took a moment today to remember

1578
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: what that was like. And I think that informed opinions

1579
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: for for a lot, for millions of people for a

1580
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: long time to come about what what the criminal justice

1581
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: is in this country was really like, and what wealth

1582
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: and power and narratives of race and racial discrimination can

1583
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: do in a courtroom. Anyway, Teams, So I just wanted

1584
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 1: to have my moment there thinking about O J in

1585
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: the case. Uh. We'll be back in just a few minutes, Team,

1586
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:26,839
Speaker 1: I've got a lot more, uh, including a discussion about

1587
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: why I'm a conservative that's coming up. We'll going back.

1588
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 1: The left has a Hamburger problem, everybody, and to explain

1589
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: exactly what that means. We've got Kyle Smith joining us now.

1590
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 1: He is critic at large for National Review, Kyle, great

1591
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: to have you on. Okay, thanks uh. The Hamburger problem

1592
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: with the left? What I love Hamburgers, what's their problem?

1593
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: The problem with the left is the politic politics, the

1594
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 1: politicization of everything. They politicize everything on the left. So

1595
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: when you're tucking into a Hamer, it's going to show

1596
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: up on social media. DONI Hamburgers saved the world? Or

1597
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: have fewer children save the world? Or my goodness, don't

1598
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: drive an suv you want to save the planet, don't you,

1599
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: Or better yet, don't drive a car at all. You

1600
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: should like to work. This constant hectoring from liberals is

1601
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: one of the big reasons I think the Democratic Party

1602
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: is turning off so many voters and suffered such a

1603
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: historic and catastrophic losses last November. Honestly, to say that

1604
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: there seems to be some some glee from leftist millennial

1605
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 1: types in in really leaning into a kind of Brooklyn

1606
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: Night eliteism. Sometimes you know that they don't hide it.

1607
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned in your piece Josh Josh Barrow,

1608
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:42,600
Speaker 1: whom I don't know, but I've seen some of it.

1609
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: I've read it, some of his stuff. I've seen some

1610
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: of his stuff on Twitter, and he's a case You're

1611
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, Kmart, people are gross more or less,

1612
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: that's what he says. I mean, I'm not you know,

1613
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:51,560
Speaker 1: that's not actually what he says, but that's kind of

1614
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 1: what he's implying. Yeah, it's a very condescending attitude. You know,

1615
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: the Democrats used to be the party of the people,

1616
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: sort of the party that goes from the ground up.

1617
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 1: Now they're very much of top down party. It's run,

1618
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 1: as you say, out of Brooklyn. Hillary Clinton's campaign headquarters

1619
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 1: is literally in Brooklyn last year, and you're so surrounded

1620
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: by people who say, wait a minute, you know, we

1621
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 1: don't need the white working class anymore, even though that's

1622
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 1: still a huge chunk of the country. Even know, white

1623
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: people are still i think seventy two percent of the

1624
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: electorate or something like that. That basically write them off

1625
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 1: and say, well, single, women, minorities, gays, cultural elites, people

1626
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: like this our coalition and we can just write off

1627
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: everybody from you know, Pennsylvania to Wisconsin. Well, that didn't

1628
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 1: work out so well for them. And I think the

1629
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: sense that, uh, the leader of the free world should

1630
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 1: be someone who culturally speaking, is in your corner, someone

1631
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 1: who has your back, someone who who sort of shares

1632
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: your your wish to be left alone. I think that's

1633
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: a very powerful determinant for who we vote for for president. Uh,

1634
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: much more so than sort of specific policy proposals, you know,

1635
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: things like headstar and born stuff like that. Uh. You

1636
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: want the president to culturally align with you. I think

1637
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 1: for a lot of people they think that that Trump

1638
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: being anti political correctness is a big attraction. Do you

1639
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: think that the politicization of of all things on on

1640
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: the left? And I will also just put out there

1641
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 1: that I think at some level Twitter has has fed

1642
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 1: into this. I actually have a lot of a lot

1643
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 1: of sympathy for some recent uh authors pondits talking head

1644
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: types who have said, you know what, I'm just I'm

1645
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: just done with Twitter because it's turned into a snarky

1646
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: shouting match and and people are just be acting like

1647
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: idiots on it all the time, which is unfair. But

1648
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 1: there's some truth to it. Uh, there's actually, I think

1649
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: a good chunk of truth to it. But are we

1650
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 1: just more aware of the politicization of all things because

1651
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: of the social media dominant world that we live in now,

1652
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: where you know, yeah, somebody can to your point about

1653
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: a hamburger. Somebody can be a food who takes a

1654
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: photo of a hamburger, puts it out there, and now

1655
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: that's a common board. People say, do you realize that

1656
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: cal farts put methane in the atmosphere and methane industry,

1657
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 1: you know, is one the worst gases for the ozone

1658
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,719
Speaker 1: and blah blah all that stuff. Yeah, the the Internet

1659
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 1: in general is like a megaphone for people's bad behavior.

1660
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 1: And I think probably staying off Twitter will probably would

1661
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 1: be good for your mental health. Uh yeah, probably if

1662
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 1: you're if you're standing on the street corner and someone

1663
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: was drinking at us soda or something, you probably wuldn't

1664
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 1: feel uh emboldened enough to lecture that person that's soda

1665
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: is bad for you and it's going to lead to

1666
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, obesity and diabetes and higher medical insurance costs

1667
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 1: for everybody. But people feel free to do these kinds

1668
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 1: of things on Twitter, and they kind of egg each

1669
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 1: other on. It goes farther and farther west. And as

1670
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: I noted in my National Review piece, once you get

1671
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 1: on a progressive train, once your professional progressive, that train

1672
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: doesn't stop till it gainst the crazy Town. All kinds

1673
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 1: of crazy stuff happens every week. I mean, we saw

1674
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 1: it just this week the USA Today movie critic denouncing

1675
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 1: the movie Dune Kirk for not having enough minorities and women.

1676
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: We saw the Women's March tweeting out support for a

1677
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 1: convicted cop killer who's been hiding out in Cuba as

1678
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 1: a as a revolutionary hero or the left. I mean,

1679
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: this is just totally routine stuff. Uh. You know, speech

1680
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: is violence, but violence is just a really neat form

1681
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 1: of free expression. All this crazy stuff is just completely

1682
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 1: normal within democratic and progressive circles, and very few people

1683
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 1: have the guts to say, wait a minute, I'm a democrat.

1684
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: I believe in you know, more entitled and spending things

1685
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 1: like that. But I'm not done with all this ridiculous

1686
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: cultural stuff. And by the way, you mentioned Don Kirk,

1687
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 1: My brothers wanted to see it with me. You wrote

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Speaker 1: about it on natural view dot com. You are the

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Speaker 1: critic at large. We're speaking to Kyle Smith. Uh this weekend,

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Speaker 1: should I go check out Done Kirk if I can.

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01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 1: You know, it's very intense. It's not bloody like sitting

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01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:39,839
Speaker 1: private Ryan, It's not gory. There's no heads being blopped

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01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 1: off or anything. But it's just as intense as that

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01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 1: first twenty minutes and saving Private Ryan. All the way through.

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01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: It's got extremely loud, scary noises, there's a there's a

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01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: lot of men in peril. There's an overwhelming sense of

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01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: uh sort of near despair and hopelessness because that was

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01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:58,600
Speaker 1: the situation on the beach while they're waiting to be evacuated.

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01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 1: So you know, that's that's your cup of tea by

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01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 1: all means see it. I thought it needed a little

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01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: bit more of the Spielberg in Spielberg kind of heart,

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01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: and it was more of a great technical achievement and

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01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: one that that didn't emotionally grab me as much as

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01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 1: uh some warm where we do. So what were your

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01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 1: great for Dunkirk? I think with three or three a

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01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 1: half stars, But I don't think it's a masterpieces. Some

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01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 1: would say, all right, I think I might have to

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01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:23,679
Speaker 1: go check that out real quick. We only got about

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01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: a minute. But what is dog dumping millennial style starring

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01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 1: Lena Dune him all about? That's on National Review who

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01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: had done him actually broke up with her dog and

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01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 1: publicly posted about it as a completely ridiculous story. She

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01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: had adopted this dog from a shelter like a hipster

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01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: dog shelter in Brooklyn, and she blamed the dog when

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01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 1: she she gave the dog to a different organization, even

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01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 1: though the shelter she got it from said the dog

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01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: had never behaved badly, she alleged, and also the shelter

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01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 1: said she had to sign an agreement when she adopted

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01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:55,719
Speaker 1: the dog that if she didn't want the dog anymore,

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01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 1: she would have to return it to that shelter. So

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01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 1: she she lied about the dog history about behavior. She

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01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: claimed the dog and had use of owners. The shelter

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01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,600
Speaker 1: had never heard that before, and she basically covered her

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01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 1: tracks by completely misleading the public, even even the dog.

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01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: Even the dog didn't like her, No surprise, She's the worst.

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01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 1: Kyle Smith everybody critic at large for Nashural View. Kyle,

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Speaker 1: thank you, sir, Thank you team. We're in a break,

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Speaker 1: will be right back with more stay with me. Buck

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01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 1: is back, everybody Bucks back. It's more of America now,

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01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 1: throwing your two cents one eight four four nine hundred buck.

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01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 1: That's one eight four four d to eight to five.

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01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm a big Netflix user. I really enjoy the ability

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01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 1: to watch shows on demand. And so I've been a

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01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: fan of Netflix for some time. And in fact, I'm

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01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 1: not somebody who has a cable TV subscription uh and

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01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 1: just does everything through a La cart And I guess

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01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 1: I'm part of this new generation of cord utters that

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01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: the execs have been talking about, have been worried about

1739
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 1: for some time. But Netflix has gotten into the content

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01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 1: game and they're clearly going after a demographic in which

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01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 1: you know, I am, and a lot of other folks

1742
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: listing fall into the category to you know, thirties, forties, fifties.

1743
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: That's really where a lot of the programming on Netflix

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01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 1: is aimed, you can tell. And there was this this

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01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:27,639
Speaker 1: show that I just gave a shot too. I hadn't

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01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 1: read anything about it. I just wanted to watch a

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01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 1: little bit of it. Always looking for, you know, the

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01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 1: next thing to watch on Netflix. I really like the

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01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 1: Daredevil show on on Netflix. Um I I did not

1750
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 1: like Luke Cage. And I'm somebody who generally speaking like

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01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: superhero stuff, although I do think that movies, big budget

1752
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 1: movies are way too reliant on the superhero genre these days.

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01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 1: Apparently the new Spider Man movies really good. Maybe I

1754
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 1: should check it out anyway. Bloodline on Netflix is an

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01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: excellent show. Um, I really like that. I can watch

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01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 1: The Last Kingdom on Netflix, which is a BBC show

1757
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: about the Viking invasion and partial conquest of of England. Um,

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01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,720
Speaker 1: I really recommend that one to you. By the first

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01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 1: season is great. The second season don't really love quite

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01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 1: as much. But I usually think that Netflix does a

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01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 1: pretty good job. But recently I've started to see that

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01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 1: there's been it's been less about telling great stories and

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01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: compelling narratives, and there's a bit of the political social

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01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:30,560
Speaker 1: justice thing coming into it. And I just want entertainment

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01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 1: to try and do that to entertain me. Yeah, you

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01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 1: can inform and enlighten, and you know, there's emotional connection

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01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: from it, and I get all that, but it's supposed

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01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: to be entertaining. I don't need a political lecture and

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01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: I certainly don't need political narratives jammed down my throat

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01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 1: with under the guise of it just being a story. Right,

1771
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 1: And sure enough, you know, there's the Bill Night, the

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01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 1: Science Bill Night Saves the World and Bill n Science

1773
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,759
Speaker 1: Guy was the old old show, and Bill Night Saves

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01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: the World. World is just a a amountain of molten

1775
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 1: pterodactyl poop. It is just the worst, absolutely the worst,

1776
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 1: unwatchable trash. And I saw someone said that I think

1777
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 1: it's nominated for an award. I mean's just pathetic, right,

1778
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: It's it's all politics, nothing else. But there's this other show,

1779
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, Okay, here we go, because I've really

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01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 1: liked this sitcom. The it was a it was a

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01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 1: Network sitcom called How I Met Your Mother. Those of

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01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: you who haven't seen it, it's good. If you're gonna

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Speaker 1: watch Parks and Wreck, which is an NBC sitcom starting

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01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 1: season two, just skip season one and just be all

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01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 1: about Ron Swanson. That's like, that's a great show. But

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01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,560
Speaker 1: How I Met Your Mother reminds it's all based on

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01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 1: New York City young person dating, and so there's a

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01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of stuff that resonates with me

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01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: as a guy who grew up and lived most of

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01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 1: his life in New York and has been on the

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01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 1: dating scene for quite quite a while and been on

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01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 1: more than his fair share of dates. So How I

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01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 1: Met Your Mother is a good show. This show is

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01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,520
Speaker 1: called this new Netflix show is called Friends from College.

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01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 1: And I got about ten minutes into it and it's

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01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 1: just now so clear to me that the what's considered

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01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 1: cool among my my general demographic, I'm thirty five, what's

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01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 1: considered cool is to be a nihilistic, self involved unkind jerk,

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01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: and that just being gross and petty is confused with

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Speaker 1: being funny. And this is in the pop culture all

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01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: over the place. But this show Friends from College, and

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01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 1: the guy, one of the guys from the Key and

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01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 1: Peel Show is like the main character. He's terrible. Uh,

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01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 1: he's not funny at all in this. I don't know

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01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 1: if I've never thought he's funny anything else either, but

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01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 1: he's not funny at all on this I'm watching this

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01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 1: show and it starts off He's are supposed to be

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01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 1: friends from college, and one of them, you know, there's

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01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: two married couples they're having one of them is having

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01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 1: an affair with one of the other married couple. They're

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01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 1: having an affair. The woman announces in the first ten

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Speaker 1: minutes of the show that you know, she had an

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01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 1: abortion in college. No big deal. So people are cheating

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01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:02,560
Speaker 1: on each other, they're breaking their marriage vows, are having abortions,

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01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: they're lying about their careers. They're just self loathing, has

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01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 1: and This is true in the HBO show Girls as well,

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01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 1: which I will admit to having watched one or two

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01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 1: episodes of because I wanted to know what was going on.

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01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 1: It's also terrible, but self loathing, narcissistic, petty, lying, gross

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01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 1: millenniy you know, older millennials, thirtysothing year olds are now

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01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:28,640
Speaker 1: held up is somehow emblematic of my generation. And I'm like,

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01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 1: excuse me. You know, we've had millions of people that

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01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 1: are you know, around my age, within ten years up

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01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,560
Speaker 1: or down, twenty years up, even who served in the

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01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 1: Rock and Afghanistan. We've got people who are just just

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01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 1: kick ass patriots all over this country who are really

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01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 1: funny and cool and doing great stuff. And and this

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01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 1: is what's representing these little these little uh pajama boys

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01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 1: all grown up and and cheating on their wives and

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01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 1: acting like jerks and not being funny. That's what I

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01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 1: have to see on TV. I mean, you know, it

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01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: makes me want to get in the fictional TV writing business,

1833
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 1: because you know, let's tell some stories about people that

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01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 1: are are are relatable and that are worth caring about,

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01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 1: that are inspiring. They can be flawed, but you know,

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01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: I want good and bad I want the struggle. I

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01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 1: want heroes, I want people from my in my age.

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01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 1: I can root for this show on Netflix. I'm telling

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01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 1: you it's called Friends from College. It should just be

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01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: Losers from College. It's really disappointing Netflix really going social

1841
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 1: justice Warrior on it. I did not like it. All Right,

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01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,919
Speaker 1: we'll hit a break. I'll talk to you about government

1843
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 1: stuff and why I'm a conservative in just a few

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01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 1: If you're like me and you live in an area

1845
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: completely overrun with progressive liberals, you've probably been asked the

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01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:53,679
Speaker 1: question at some point, why are you a conservative? And

1847
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 1: maybe over the course of that conversation you've gotten into

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01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: the part of this where you're asked, why are you

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01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 1: so hostile to government? And people will even say to me,

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01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 1: you worked for the government, How can you think the

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01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,599
Speaker 1: government is such a bad idea? So much of the time,

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01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 1: and I always respond to them, well, there are lots

1853
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: of parts of life that can be a very good thing,

1854
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: but I want to limit I want to make sure

1855
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 1: there's a time and a place for it. You know,

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01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:24,720
Speaker 1: the doctor is a great thing when you need the doctor,

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01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 1: and at one time or another all of us will

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01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 1: need some form of medical care. But I don't want

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01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 1: the doctor also telling me what I should do for

1860
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,719
Speaker 1: a living, who I should date, where I should live.

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01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 1: I just go to the doctor for essential medical services.

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01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 1: That's kind of how I think about government. I just

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01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,799
Speaker 1: want the government to do the stuff that the government

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01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:49,719
Speaker 1: absolutely positively has to do and is useful in doing,

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01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: and even if they're not good at it, they're the

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01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:54,680
Speaker 1: only ones who should do it. That's the way that

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01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 1: I view government, right, That's how I philosophically approached these issues.

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01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: And sometimes I think it's best when I'm having this

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01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 1: conversation as I've had many times in the past, because

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01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 1: I think some people are surprised. I say, oh, you,

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01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 1: you grew up in Manhattan, You're from New York City,

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01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: You're surrounded by liberals your whole life. How is it

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01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 1: that you are such a conservative? And I say, well,

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01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 1: first of all, I've been a conservative for as long

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01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 1: as I can remember, caring about anything that happens in

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01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 1: the world, so probably about fourteen or fifteen. And I'm

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01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 1: always surprised that more people who grew up around me

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01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 1: aren't conservatives. Being in a large city, you see the

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01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:37,640
Speaker 1: way that the government is constantly wasting money, and making mistakes.

1880
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 1: But instead of just getting into that back and forth,

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01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 1: maybe a better way to do it is to look

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01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: at a specific story, an incident, an instance of the

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01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: government and how it really functions, and try to extrapolate,

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01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 1: try to take from that the lessons of this bigger

1885
01:43:56,200 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 1: conversation about my view of government overall and as sense,

1886
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,720
Speaker 1: look at a little story and take big lessons from it,

1887
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 1: because I think that's a very helpful way of addressing

1888
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 1: much larger issues of political philosophy. And here's a great one.

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01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 1: It's up in Toronto. So what's up, Canada, Team Buck

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01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 1: Canada in the house? A guy in Toronto lived near

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01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,719
Speaker 1: a park and this was just a story from UH yesterday,

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01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 1: actually was published in UH. Well, c CTV up in

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01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: Canada ran a story on it. It's and publishing some newspapers.

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01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 1: So this guy up in Toronto spends UH a well.

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01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 1: As an aside, by the way, I remember one of

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Speaker 1: my parents friends telling me that he grew up in Toronto,

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Speaker 1: and I was just fascinated by this, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: so tell me more about what what was it like

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Speaker 1: growing up in Albania? And I went on for some length.

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Speaker 1: He goes, what do you mean Albania from Toronto? And

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I thought you've been Taranto, the

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Speaker 1: capital of Albania. You meant Toronto, which apparently if you're

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Speaker 1: from the are some people say Toronto. I didn't. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know that something something new and different from me

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Speaker 1: all the time. So so Toronto, as I like to say,

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Speaker 1: as a New Yorker, had this little park and there's

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Speaker 1: as a decline. Now, look, this isn't a We're not

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Speaker 1: talking about North Korea's nuclear program here, right, this isn't

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Speaker 1: gonna light the world on fire. But there's a little

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Speaker 1: decline and people keep falling when they try to go

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Speaker 1: into this local park. So a guy in Toronto named

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Speaker 1: Audi Astle, who is a retired mechanic, he decided that

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Speaker 1: this needed to be fixed. And the government in Toronto

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Speaker 1: already knew. The city government knew this was a problem.

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Speaker 1: People were falling, they were hurting themselves, and so they

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Speaker 1: had gotten together the basics of a program to build

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Speaker 1: and there's photos of it. I mean it's like six steps.

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Speaker 1: Now this is the fun part. Of course, what do

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Speaker 1: you think the city of Toronto wanted to spend on

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Speaker 1: these six steps? Well, the estimate that the city had

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Speaker 1: for this job was sixty five thousand to a hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars. How is that? How is it

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Speaker 1: possible that a staircase with six or seven steps in

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Speaker 1: a little park in Canada could cost let's just to

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Speaker 1: be to be nice about it, we'll say it cost

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Speaker 1: seventy grand. How could that be the case? And of

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Speaker 1: course the answer is government, because there's no accountability because

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Speaker 1: it's taxpayer dollars, because there's all kinds of regulations, because

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Speaker 1: there are uh safety considerations that are excessive that must

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Speaker 1: be taken into account because of the litigious, fast to

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Speaker 1: sue society that we live in. The Canadians live in

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Speaker 1: as well, so they have to deal with all these

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Speaker 1: different regulations that I'm sure it has to be accessible

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Speaker 1: for the elderly and handicapped, accessible, and there's all these

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Speaker 1: different things that come into it when you just need

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Speaker 1: a staircase. Because people that walk down this embankment fall

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Speaker 1: and hurt themselves and it's been a continuing problem. So

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Speaker 1: this retired mechanic says, you know what, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: build my own staircase, and he does, and it's fine,

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Speaker 1: and everyone of the neighborhood is happy up in Toronto,

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Speaker 1: and his staircase, instead of costing seventy thousand dollars, cost

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Speaker 1: about five hundred bucks. So he was able to build

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Speaker 1: a perfectly functional wooden staircase that everybody can use that

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Speaker 1: makes the neighborhood happy on his own time, on his

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Speaker 1: own dime, for five dollars, not sixty five thousand dollars,

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Speaker 1: which is what Toronto wanted to spend on this job.

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Speaker 1: And you might think, okay, well, happy ending of sorts here.

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Speaker 1: The community gets what it wants, taxpayers are saved money.

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Speaker 1: Government sloth, government lethargy is not uh, you know, it

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Speaker 1: is overcome in this instance. But oh no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: there are would be wrong because the city government up

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Speaker 1: there has decided that they think they have to tear

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Speaker 1: this down. Why because it doesn't meet code and they

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Speaker 1: don't want people building their own structures, they say, on

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Speaker 1: public property. Now I can understand at some level that

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Speaker 1: they don't want people to just be constructing, certainly for

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Speaker 1: private use on public land structures, and there are safety concerns,

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Speaker 1: But if you look at this thing, it is a

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Speaker 1: staircase with six freaking wooden stairs. Who cares, Right, what's

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Speaker 1: the big deal? It's their stairs. Maybe they could add

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Speaker 1: a little a few planks to them to make them sturdier,

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Speaker 1: but to tear it down where people again are going

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Speaker 1: to fall because it's a slippery embankment and there's no

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Speaker 1: way to get down into this park and then wait

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Speaker 1: for the sixty five dollar version. That's really just at

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Speaker 1: its essence, that is government government. Because of the way

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Speaker 1: bureaucracies function and the way government employees think, and I

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Speaker 1: am personally familiar with this, government doesn't really care what

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Speaker 1: the effects are for any given specific project or agenda item.

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Speaker 1: The most important thing for government employees, like in the

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Speaker 1: private sector, is that they get paid and that their

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Speaker 1: benefits are fulfilled. That is the most important thing that

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Speaker 1: you come across in most bureaucracies. Yes, there are fabulous

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Speaker 1: government employees who go above and beyond, but there are

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Speaker 1: also a lot of government employees who feel like they're

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Speaker 1: unfire able, immovable, and just don't really care what their agency, administration,

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Speaker 1: or or or government body is supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 1: Because there's no incentive for excellence, government work is overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: a place where ambition and excellence go to die. And

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Speaker 1: that's not the fall of any one person in the government.

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Speaker 1: That's just the nature of publicly funded bureaucracy. They aren't

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Speaker 1: really accountable, and sure we can push them to be better.

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Speaker 1: But one of the reasons why I always want government

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Speaker 1: to do the bare minimum is because I know that

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the day ends at

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Speaker 1: five pm for basically a vast majority of government employees,

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Speaker 1: and they are justifying their existence, and that people will

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Speaker 1: slip and fall and hurt themselves because they don't if

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Speaker 1: they tear down this staircase. It's not really the concern

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Speaker 1: of those in government. They really care about the regulations.

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Speaker 1: They really care about making sure that everything is done

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Speaker 1: according to quote code. Now, by the way, some of

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Speaker 1: you who are homeowners, I'm sure have had your own

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Speaker 1: battles with the local uh the local code or housing

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Speaker 1: inspectors at where you are. It is just insane. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they will tell you that a sink is too close

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Speaker 1: to your door, or that a staircase that you've using

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Speaker 1: for twenty years isn't wide enough for that, you know,

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Speaker 1: any number of things, right, you know you need more

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Speaker 1: areas of egress. Oh well, you know I'm on the

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Speaker 1: second floor. We could just go out the window if

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Speaker 1: we really add to no. No, you know, you have

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Speaker 1: to have marked fire exits. I mean, the government will

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Speaker 1: always find ways to justify its own payroll, and it

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Speaker 1: will do so at the expense of the people that

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to serve. So this case up in Canada

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Speaker 1: is just just another story. It's a small story, I know,

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Speaker 1: but this is the this is the bottom line truth

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Speaker 1: of how government's function. That's why, Yeah, I want the

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Speaker 1: government to do what is outlined in the Constitution. I

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Speaker 1: want states to do what is necessary for public order

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Speaker 1: and safety. But always, always the minimum, always the the

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Speaker 1: absolute barest of necessities when it comes to regulation. And uh,

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Speaker 1: that's just my philosophical approach, because they don't want to

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Speaker 1: spend five in a staircase. They want to spend seventy thousand,

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Speaker 1: honest aircase, and they want to make sure that it's

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Speaker 1: best for the taxpayer. So this little staircase up in Canada,

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Speaker 1: I just think this is a story that I'll be

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Speaker 1: telling friends of mine. The five or the seventy dollar staircase.

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Speaker 1: That's the choice between private ingenuity and government action. Team

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