WEBVTT - Week 0 Recaps, New Starters, and Group of Five

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm that for me. I'm a man, I'm forty. I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be happy for Dake Edith State. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that whoo whoom?

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<v Speaker 1>And Dan and Tie welcome back to the Solid Rebel

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<v Speaker 1>Boys and girls. My name is Ty hilden Brant, joining

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<v Speaker 1>me as always my man over there in beautiful New

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<v Speaker 1>York City. The week before the season, Dan Rubinstein sir,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're in the season technically, even if you

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<v Speaker 2>ignore week zero because it's not a full regular week,

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<v Speaker 2>we're in week one. This is the week one run up? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get into the later start or the later

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<v Speaker 1>finish to the week zero game? Were you awake for that?

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<v Speaker 2>Ty, Let's back up? Was I awake for the second

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<v Speaker 2>half of Florida Miami? The answer is a resounding no.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is a full on It's halftime. I was

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<v Speaker 2>at a hotel on the Jersey Shore. I had just

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<v Speaker 2>finished C C minus pizza and said to myself, I

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<v Speaker 2>have a limited amount. You know, when you plan a RPG,

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<v Speaker 2>you have certain you have this much life, this much health,

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<v Speaker 2>this much stamina, this much weaponry, that kind of thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>as a newly minted father and just general old man,

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<v Speaker 2>I have so many late night college football nights just

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<v Speaker 2>available to me this season. Was I going to waste

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<v Speaker 2>it on Week zero? I was not. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>found the full versions of both Florida Miami and then

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona Hawaii the following day and watched it at my

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<v Speaker 2>own leisure and now have many many thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely as do I I will say, as not a

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<v Speaker 1>new father, yeah, but a resident of a new state

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<v Speaker 1>in which sports gambling is now legal.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, this I'm going to change the dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>I may have had a rooting interest in the final

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<v Speaker 1>moments of that Florida Miami game, and let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>both final moments were great, but yeah, both were great.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Florida Miami one, from an over understandpoint, had

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<v Speaker 1>real significance. And brother I aged about fifteen years on

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<v Speaker 1>that last sequence, which we can get into here momentarily

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<v Speaker 1>if we want to talk about that. But yeah, an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting occurrence of events on both fronts. Really, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>which game you were into, we are going to go

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<v Speaker 1>through news on this show. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>those two games very quickly as well. As some of

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<v Speaker 1>the new starting quarterbacks that have been named in the

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<v Speaker 1>run up two week one, and then we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to cover the group of five. Now, we haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>the full deep dive of like sixty group of five teams. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>what we've done is go through and look at, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who are the top dogs, who are some of the contenders,

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<v Speaker 1>the pretenders, And we're going to try to cover it

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<v Speaker 1>from that perspective because I know y'all love the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We love the show too, there are only so many

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<v Speaker 1>hours in the day. We can't cover all the teams

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<v Speaker 1>we've received.

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<v Speaker 2>Since January, we've received an email, maybe five emails a

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<v Speaker 2>day strictly asking when we were going to deep dive

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<v Speaker 2>the Tulsa Golden Hurricane, of course, and we've been putting

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<v Speaker 2>it off. Yeah, we've been putting it off. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the deep dive will be next year. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive on Tulsa will be next year. But well,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, do we have housekeeping? Do we want

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<v Speaker 2>to get into week zero? What is the order of

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<v Speaker 2>operations here?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first and foremost the order of operations is we've

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<v Speaker 2>Dan correct? I do host Sports War as a show

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<v Speaker 2>about sports rivalries that's narrative, about four or five six

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<v Speaker 2>finished a college football arc with Texas, Oklahoma and Florida, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>or the other way around, depending on your fandom. But

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Wars, sports Wars, So there you go, sports Wars

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<v Speaker 1>fully indoctrinated into the old Wondery podcast ecosystem. We're very

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<v Speaker 1>out here is that the reverb line's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>open this coming weekend. Four weight Verbal one saw a

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<v Speaker 1>few people called in during the couple of games we

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<v Speaker 1>had this weekend, not going to get a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>play those apologize because we're still doing some maintenance, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take care of that in time for all the

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<v Speaker 1>week one action. As always, you can follow along on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>soliverbal subreddit down in DC during our live show. And oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you haven't listened to the live

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<v Speaker 1>shows yet, it's long. Show dropped at early morning on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>But you get the flavor for all twenty four picks

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<v Speaker 1>that Dan and I made in our Fantasy Things draft,

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<v Speaker 1>spread out over two nights between Dallas, Texas on August

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<v Speaker 1>the seventeenth and Washington, DC on August the eighteenth. That's

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<v Speaker 1>out there.

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<v Speaker 2>We're already seeing. We're seeing points roll in already, we

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<v Speaker 2>are seeing points are probably already been. I saw because

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<v Speaker 2>I selected not spoiler alert, I selected Marty Smith committing

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<v Speaker 2>to a bit. Oh yeah, he's going to be calling

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville Notre Dame from a blimp. I believe, Yeah, is

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<v Speaker 2>that what's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that's the yes. In celebration of the college

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<v Speaker 1>football one fifty thing, he will be up there with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah McGee I in promoting the Fantasy Things show on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>I just did a simple search of Marty Smith gift

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<v Speaker 2>and it is literally all all the gifts that are

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<v Speaker 2>presented are Marty Smith committing to a bit. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>just like Marty Smith looking just like waving at the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Marty Smith Hams commits to the bit. It's oh, he's

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<v Speaker 2>committing to the bit. So that was a fantasy thing

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<v Speaker 2>I selected and that's already pang dividends and check out

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<v Speaker 2>the fantasy thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Show mom aged Tex. She texted that Chris Collinsworth was

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<v Speaker 1>selling some sort of NBC drama. Oh really, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>call on a Yeah, I didn't see it, so I

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<v Speaker 1>have to go back to football see if I can

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<v Speaker 1>find it. But Chris collins Worth on whatever Sunday night

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<v Speaker 1>football broadcast they had going was.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's Kirkhurbs Street selling Wendy's Spicy Nuggies. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's well, probably to mainstream, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to get points for you. But it's happening, man, It

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<v Speaker 1>is all happening here. College football is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in full swing before we know. It's all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>ways you can connect with the verbal. We're also going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a pickup game. People have asked about the

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<v Speaker 1>pickup game of the process of getting that set up

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<v Speaker 1>with their friends over at Chalk Line so stay tuned

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<v Speaker 1>for that. The link will be up on the website

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<v Speaker 1>before long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean this fantasy thing that we're referencing is

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<v Speaker 2>a broadcaster becoming a spokesperson for like a company that

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<v Speaker 2>is not one of the three or four or five

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<v Speaker 2>industry leaders in that category. Because it was like Laura

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<v Speaker 2>Rutledge and Marty Smith for Academy Outdoors Sports. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that was. So if brock Heward is doing dunk a

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<v Speaker 2>Use commercials, yeah, you better believe that counts. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking for. So Daniel, shall we get rolling here?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We have sort of stundi breaking news.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that could be.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we had Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, we're doing this Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Florida knocking off Miami. This one took place at

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<v Speaker 1>Camping World Stadium in Orlando. The first, I guess really

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<v Speaker 1>big game of the year happened on Week zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Great Drone shot opening the game up.

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<v Speaker 1>Great drone Shot was an interesting scenario for young Jaron Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>the new starting quarterback for the Miami Hurricanes. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>showed some promise, but ultimately Miami's offensive line overwhelmed by

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<v Speaker 1>Florida's defensive line and something like ten sacks in that

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<v Speaker 1>football game, and it really was incumbent on Florida to

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<v Speaker 1>just win the game at the end, to win the

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<v Speaker 1>game at the end, to not try to lose, which

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of what they tried to do. Felipe Franks

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<v Speaker 1>with a horrible backbreaking interception. If not for a non

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<v Speaker 1>sportsman like conduct penalty that went against Miami, perhaps the

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<v Speaker 1>situation would have been a little bit more favorable towards

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<v Speaker 1>the Hurricanes. But a last they get the ball back

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<v Speaker 1>late in the game, Jared Williams has a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>win it. There are a couple pass interference calls. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>Florida ends up getting the w. Dan Mullens said as

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<v Speaker 1>much at the end, basically what I said in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>Like man, I aged a lot on that last drive

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<v Speaker 1>and route to Florida starting off the season one and zero.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your takeaway just generally from a very high

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<v Speaker 1>level of this game.

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<v Speaker 2>I just everything was pretty much sloppy. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>say explosion plays that were largely a result of bad tackling.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw Miami all out fail to protect Jaron Williams

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<v Speaker 2>in his first start at quarterback, and I am hopeful

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<v Speaker 2>we'll start with We'll start with Florida. Flabe. Franks threw

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<v Speaker 2>some bad passes, but seemed to be improved in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of command and accuracy overall. I mean he threw he

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<v Speaker 2>had that one ridiculous pass up the seam, which is

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<v Speaker 2>you that's the Felipe Franks experience. You're like, ah, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's kind of all over the place and green and rocky,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he just throws an absolute dime. He seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to be more poised in control early against a very

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<v Speaker 2>good Miami defense, So I like to see that neither

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<v Speaker 2>team could really run, and just the slop and inconsistency

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<v Speaker 2>of playing your first game of the season against a

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<v Speaker 2>legit opponent showed itself pretty pretty clearly. So from Florida perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>you get the win. That's great against a what should

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<v Speaker 2>be a pretty good Miami team, and from Miami, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>Jaron Williams stays alive all year long. Behind that life

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<v Speaker 2>was really rough. It was a rough watch because I

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<v Speaker 2>thought they game planned, especially early on, pretty well for him.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of quick passes and screens. Just get it.

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<v Speaker 2>They knew what they had and what they didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>from this offense, and there's only so much you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of thing only works for so long if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have a next move, and Miami really struggled

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<v Speaker 2>to find that next move. So I get a couple

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<v Speaker 2>explosion plays, they go down the field a couple times successfully,

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<v Speaker 2>but ultimately Florida just had the best thing in this game,

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<v Speaker 2>which was the favorable matchup defensive line against offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>Florida with four turnovers in this game, which is something

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<v Speaker 1>they obviously need to clean up. You see a big

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<v Speaker 1>improvement between week one and nine two, in this case

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<v Speaker 1>week zero in week two. Whenever Florida plays next, I

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<v Speaker 1>would expect that Dan mullen is going to clean some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff up. Miami, as he said, has a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good defense, so we'll see how they progress from

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<v Speaker 1>this point forward. But Yeah, definitely a sloppy showing to

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<v Speaker 1>start things off and ends to the other game that

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<v Speaker 1>we saw on oh Saturday evening between Yeah, Arizona and Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona got in a very early hole down fourteen to nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>It went exactly the way I think you expect a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Arizona games to go this year, where kind

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<v Speaker 1>of devolves into a shootout. Before you know it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all on the arm or legs of Khalil Tate. Khalil

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<v Speaker 1>Tate scrambles towards the goal line on the last play

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, ends up being stopped one yard short

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<v Speaker 1>of scoring potentially the tying touchdown, and Arizona starts off

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<v Speaker 1>on the wrong foot, on a sloppy foot in their

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<v Speaker 1>own right, losing by seven on the road in a

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<v Speaker 1>Loja stadium to the Warriors.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we fully comprehend how difficult it is to win

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<v Speaker 2>the turnover battle by four turnovers and put up over

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred yards of offense and have the most dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>dual threat quarterback in a major conference and lose to

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<v Speaker 2>a team in the Mountain West that is not a

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<v Speaker 2>Mountain West power. Hawaii is certainly a team on the

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<v Speaker 2>come up. They have a lot of returning guys that

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<v Speaker 2>should win games this year, but the degree of difficulty

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<v Speaker 2>in doing that, And as I was watching this game

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<v Speaker 2>fully knowing the result, as I said, I went to

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<v Speaker 2>sleep at halftime in Florida, Miami. No shame well fully

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<v Speaker 2>watching this entire game play to play, thinking how in

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<v Speaker 2>the hell is Arizona going to give this away and

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<v Speaker 2>then you see a backbreaking pick here, then you see

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<v Speaker 2>a bad third down play there, and just situationally, Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>when they had opportunities, they just blew so many of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they had nine or ten penalties. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>a week zero thing or a first game thing, but

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<v Speaker 2>degree of difficulty, like not even mad, kind of impressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of impressed, wild yeah, kind of impressed by the

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<v Speaker 1>way Khalil Tate three sixty one through the air, oh

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<v Speaker 1>one awight on the ground. Any losing effort, yeah, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. To open the season with that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>losing effort. So Arizona will be dangers on offense there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they look deeper than ever skill position wise

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<v Speaker 2>from where they've been these past couple of years. Defense

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<v Speaker 2>is raw, That secondary was rough at times.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So as we now turn the page and

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<v Speaker 1>move into week one mode, fully, hm, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the starting quarterbacks that have been named. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run little list here and just give me any

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<v Speaker 1>hot takes or just regular takes if you have them.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Hicks will be your starter at Arkansas. Some thought

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<v Speaker 1>it might be Nick Starkle, but it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Hicks instead played.

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<v Speaker 2>For played for Chad Morris at SMU. So there's the

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<v Speaker 2>he's a familiar guy under Yeah, that's fine. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it'll make a difference either way. Matt McKay will

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<v Speaker 2>be your starter at NC State. Yeah, McKay was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the guy. McKay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that was too much to Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So here's one. Is it Michael Pennix or Michael Poenix

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<v Speaker 1>Junior winning the job at Indiana?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it's Pennix. Damn, I know, I'm so sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven year old Dan Anti. He has won the job

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<v Speaker 2>over Peyton Ramsey. He has in coming quarterback Peyton Ramsey,

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<v Speaker 2>who put up numbers, who had, you know, put together

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<v Speaker 2>nice drives and streaks of action. But I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was long considered that Pennix was the superior talent. He

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<v Speaker 2>came in as a pretty highly touted recruit and Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Allen familiar with him from his time recruiting in Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>So it makes sense that once healthy, because he I

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<v Speaker 2>think he tore his ACL last year against Penn State,

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<v Speaker 2>that he was going to be the guy if he

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<v Speaker 2>was fully ready to maximize his skills.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also a lefty, which good to see at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Not enough lefty quarterbacks out there. Correct, Michael Pennix will

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<v Speaker 1>be your starting quarterback for the Indiana Hoosiers. Hopefully he can,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get the ball to my boy Nick Westbrook

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<v Speaker 1>down the field. Maybe they can generate some explosion plays,

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<v Speaker 1>stretch the field a bit. That'd be nice for Indiana. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Florida States they are going with James Blackman. You might

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<v Speaker 1>remember that Alex horny Brook came over from Wisconsin as

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<v Speaker 1>a grad transfer. Wily Taggert told me to have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to compete for the job. I think I said

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<v Speaker 1>at one point he represented a clear upgrade over James Blackman.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently that is not the case, Wooly Taggert gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>back to James Blackman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Alex Harnybrook was going the wrong direction

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<v Speaker 2>from good starter town to great backup Ville or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>I said during the SEC preview.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go with Wisconsin here and Jack Cone Hm wins

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<v Speaker 1>the job over Graham Mertz, who was the all world

0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.040
<v Speaker 1>everything freshman Jack Cone as we know him here in

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<v Speaker 1>the show. King Cone played in five games, started four

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<v Speaker 1>last year when Hornybrook was hurt mostly gave the ball

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<v Speaker 1>to Jonathan Taylor tailback.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was not super impressed with him, though he

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<v Speaker 2>made plays against Miami. And I believe the pin Straight

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl your an America's favorite bowl game on the Eastern seaboards.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, has the experience has has shown Flashes is

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<v Speaker 2>probably too strong. Twinkles, what's a minor version of a flash,

0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Twinkles of upside, So perhaps it's a glasses get Hurtz

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable and maybe by the time October. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's going to be a long leash for

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<v Speaker 2>for Jack Cone.

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<v Speaker 1>Your boy Gaja Gubrud, No, Sir, has lost the starting

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<v Speaker 1>job at Washington State. Instead it goes to Anthony Gordon.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a fifth year senior. Yeah, was a junior college transfer.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Leech going with mister Gordon the fisherman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, looked better. And I think Gaja Gubrud is coming

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<v Speaker 2>off of some tricky foot situations where he was hurt

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<v Speaker 2>last year. Was beat up in the spring, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it was a health thing, But apparently

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Gordon is the guy and generally when Mike Leach

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<v Speaker 2>selects a quarterback, he throws for four hundred thousand yards,

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<v Speaker 2>so he must be confident in him.

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Garber's you're starting quarterback at Cal. He eats now

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Monster kind of a supreme on Devon Moster. Excuse me, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>a little surprising, but Devon Monster wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Starting at UCLA. He came in thinking he'd have a

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<v Speaker 2>chance because quarterback play has not been strong suit for Cal,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess Chase Garber's just was better. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>all that confident after watching him last year that their

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<v Speaker 2>offense is going to be appreciably better, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>always open to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hank Bachmeyer the new starting quarterback at Boise State. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Boise a little bit more as the show progresses. Formerly,

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<v Speaker 1>a four star recruit head offers from a couple big schools,

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<v Speaker 1>ends up going to Boise, ends up winning out the

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<v Speaker 1>starting job. He beat out Chase Cord, who was redshirt

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<v Speaker 1>sophomore and a senior Jalen Henderson.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he's a freshman. He's true freshman. I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>true freshman.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that'll be interesting. We got a couple true freshmen.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we talked about bo Nicks at Auburn and

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<v Speaker 2>now Hank Bachmeyer here we'll see I am. I am

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<v Speaker 2>optimistic that Brian Hearson is not just going with somebody

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<v Speaker 2>because he he came in as a touted recruit or

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<v Speaker 2>gives them the biggest opportunity to grow at quarterback. He

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<v Speaker 2>is the dude, and I imagine they're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. A couple ones that I think were pretty obvious,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll just list them anyway. Sean Clifford getting the

0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:22.119
<v Speaker 1>nod at Penn State, Jacob Eason getting the nod at Washington.

0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Stevens officially named starter at Mississippi State. We knew

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<v Speaker 1>about Brandon Wimbush. We'll talk about Brandon Wimbush a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more here on the Group of Five show, but

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<v Speaker 1>he will be your starter at UCF. Ryan Willis is

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<v Speaker 1>again going to be the starter at Virginia Tech. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>one that was somewhat interesting. Brandon Peters. Brandon Peters starter

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<v Speaker 1>at Illinois.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Brandon Peters starter Illinois. There was a couple freshmen

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<v Speaker 2>in the mix. I don't think ILLINOI is gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>very good with or without Brandon Peters, but hopefully he realizes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know something, closer to what he looked like against

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<v Speaker 2>Purdue a couple of years ago. Outside of that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a guy we know. His name should be noted

0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.280
<v Speaker 2>that Jake Hayner transferred the guy now who is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be behind Jacob Eeson. I imagine he thought he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to win the competition and they gave it

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<v Speaker 2>to Easton or Easton earned it, and Haynah was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out, I'm out, I'm gone, So Washington down and

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to happen. We saw it in Nebraska last

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<v Speaker 2>year where somebody just does not win the quarterback competition

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<v Speaker 2>and they go elsewhere to find their place in the

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<v Speaker 2>college football world. I saw what Josh Jackson official Maryland.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Jackson official at Maryland.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's good. West Virginia, Austin Kendall, the Oklahoma transfer,

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Fields, Ohio State, Jalen Hurts Oklahoma all obvious. Jamie

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<v Speaker 2>Newman at wake YEP over over Sam Hartman. Jamie Newman

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<v Speaker 2>I think looked a little bit more promising near the

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<v Speaker 2>end of last season. So a couple surprises, a couple

0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.920
<v Speaker 2>young couple young freshmen that get the nod. We'll be

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to see, especially now that one of them is

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<v Speaker 2>starting arguably the biggest game of the weekend for Auburn

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:02.040
<v Speaker 2>against Oregon. But good to see the competitions coming to

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<v Speaker 2>a close and excited to see some new faces.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so why don't we place the final piece

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<v Speaker 1>of this jigsaw puzzle and talk a little group of

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<v Speaker 1>five here on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it? Play the group of five sound that

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<v Speaker 2>sandwich I'm so long, Oh, I'm so hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, I just hit all the buttons on the

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<v Speaker 1>soundboard here.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard a double spicy, Like I heard you hit

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<v Speaker 2>the I'm spicy sound twice, which wow, feeling it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fitting that we are recording our group

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<v Speaker 1>of five show on International Dog Day. Dan, Okay, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>why is that International Dog Day as an underdog day?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Talking to group, I'm talking about group of five teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me. So we've got a number of teams here.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a list of like, I don't know, thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen on my end, just teams that were of

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<v Speaker 1>interest to me. I don't have quite the level of

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<v Speaker 1>depth that maybe I would say a Power five team,

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<v Speaker 1>But nonetheless, these are teams that we talk about week

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<v Speaker 1>in and week out teams that certainly have Power five

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<v Speaker 1>opponents of note, and it would not surprise, it should

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<v Speaker 1>not surprise when or if one of these teams pulls

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<v Speaker 1>an upset throughout the course of the year. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a list in front of you of some big

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<v Speaker 1>group of five Power five non con matchups that we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have in front of us here in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Call me crazy, ty, and you can play whatever associated

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<v Speaker 2>sound you want to right off the bat. I'm taking

0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Hawaii over Arizona. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Call me crazy. I like I'm in a shootout. A

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<v Speaker 2>little sloppy deep passing turnovers, give me the Warriors. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So there's some interesting matchups. I think Fresno USC Week one,

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<v Speaker 2>with what Fresno has done these past couple of years

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 2>and what Jeff Tedford specifically has done turning around that team.

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<v Speaker 2>New phases on offense for Fresno, but new offense entirely

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<v Speaker 2>for USC. So I think that's a pretty worthy test

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<v Speaker 2>for USC. If not, I mean, I think he was

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 2>UNLV who's run all over USC recently. So I have

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<v Speaker 2>Fresno stands a pretty good chance in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Fresno might have been like one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>Group of five teams last year.

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<v Speaker 2>If not they with a Mountain West America's Group of

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<v Speaker 2>five conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure on a different note, but like a more entertaining

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<v Speaker 2>to me note ole Miss Memphis I think could be

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of weird and fun and look a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit like Arizona, Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 1>I love me some memphisis year.

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<v Speaker 2>Brady White two more years.

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<v Speaker 1>I love me more some memphisis here. I'm not crazy

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<v Speaker 1>that they've got two new coordinators, but yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 1>me some Memphis and some Brady White.

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<v Speaker 2>And they still have the pop coxy magnifico trio. Right,

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 2>that is correct. We have Florida State Boise State in

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Jacksonville opening the season. No Brett Rippon, no new starter,

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Hank Bachmeier, James Blackman.

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I think I saw that Florida State's a five, five

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and a half point favorite in that game.

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense. Boise's replacing a lot on offense, and

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 2>they're replacing They've replaced their defensive coordinator. I think they

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.360
<v Speaker 2>have co coordinators. They brought in a guy from Eastern Washington.

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 2>They promote somebody from within, so it's a newer look

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Boise State than it's been in a long time. What's

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Madison Avenue has gone couple receivers Brett Rippon, so.

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>There to go. They're pretty stocked that receiver. They're in

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>a good place. They recruited well there, They're at a

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>good spot there. Their line should be good. Obviously breaking

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>in a freshman quarterback tough spot week one. I don't

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>care who you are. Tough spot freshman Week one on

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the road, neutral site game, neutral site in air quotes

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 1>because the game's in Florida, correct, But I think the

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 1>real issue for Boise State in this one could be

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 1>if Florida State can get anything going with its offensive line,

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>which should not be taken for granted. We'll talk about

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>more of this on our Week one preview show later

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.360
<v Speaker 1>in the week, but I think cam Akers could pose

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>an issue for Boise State here because the front seven

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>for them isn't a particular area of depth. I could

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.919
<v Speaker 1>see a situation where Boise State wears down, especially in

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>that Florida heat.

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 2>But well, oh, Marvin Wilson's good Houston, Oklahoma, which should

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 2>not answer, but give us insight into some questions for

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:35.679
<v Speaker 2>both of these teams. Houston, obviously hiring Dana Holgerson, bringing

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 2>back a hopefully fully healed Derek King at quarterback, replacing

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot on defense as they sort of move around schemes.

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Think they're going four down line, but noow movies more

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 2>before three. It's going to take a bit for this

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.919
<v Speaker 2>Houston defense, and you know what, it might take a

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.679
<v Speaker 2>bit for this Oklahoma defense. But that's also week one.

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:55.199
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, it's Sunday. That's Sunday again, Sunday night,

0:25:56.040 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Houston Oklahoma should be pretty fun all things considered. Is

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 2>that it No, No, I got much more. I didn't

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 2>know if you wanted to jump in with anything. Well,

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Ohio State justin fields throwing into a pretty nasty defense.

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Week two.

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I like Houston. I'm excited about Houston, excited

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>about Derek King. I'm not excited about their defense. And now,

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>okay that as some take abak that game in Week

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>one between Houston and Oklahoma, I think is a recipe

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of points. For sure, the Cincinnati game

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>between them and Ohio State is interesting on a number

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>of different fronts. Keep in mind that Cincinnati won what

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>eleven games last year should have this in front of me.

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, eleven games last year, and they

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>did so with a freshman quarterback and like a sophomore

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.679
<v Speaker 1>running back and a bunch of injuries across the board.

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:52.919
<v Speaker 1>So it would seemingly be going pretty well for Luke Fickle.

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>It was only year two under the Luke Fickle era

0:26:56.480 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 1>at Cincinnati, and given the fact that Ohio State they're

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 1>they're kind of figuring some stuff out as well. I'm

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>not saying Ohio State is gonna lose the Cincinnati, but

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati's gonna play him tough.

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:11.919
<v Speaker 2>Tulane Auburn, Okay, I mean the I'm not super confident

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 2>in this Tulane team overall. I like their defense a

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 2>whole bunch. I like the way they finished out the season. Offensively,

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 2>they need to, uh they need to be a little

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 2>bit better through the air. But I think it's gonna

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 2>be tricky. I think it's going to be tricky for Auburn.

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.159
<v Speaker 2>And I think I believe it's the week after Oregon,

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>so you know, maybe a letdown situation. Uh, Wazoo Houston,

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.120
<v Speaker 2>We mentioned Houston, but you know, Wazoo doing new things well,

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 2>has a new quarterback. Anyway, on offense, So Houston really

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 2>getting tested against some offenses early on.

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Uh, Stanford, UCF, I think is gonna be amazing. Why UCF.

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.199
<v Speaker 2>They've gotten a lot of attention because of their offense, and

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 2>we saw Scott Frost, we saw Josh Hypel year one,

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 2>put up huge numbers with Mackenzie Milton. And even though

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Dariel mack gets hurt, Brandon Wimbush is the starter, which

0:27:57.440 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you have thoughts about. Oh yeah, it's their

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 2>defense and just overall talent level, which they are. I mean,

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 2>they're as good as many many upper level power five schools,

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 2>and Stanford is an upper level power five school. So

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>this is just a flat out good game. This isn't

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 2>upset alert. This isn't like ooh, little guy is gonna

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 2>come take down. No, no, just a a good college

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 2>football game. I'm excited for this.

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we talked rape secondary, We're talking about Richie

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Grant really good.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>We talked about our skepticism around Stanford when we did

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that preview, we did the pack golf preview, and the

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 1>defense isn't what it used to be. This is a

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>really good offense for UCF. And yeah, I mean I

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.239
<v Speaker 1>defense Stanford. The defense will be fine. The line is

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of trying to figure it out and a bit questionable,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>but the rest of the defense should be good enough.

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>And offensively, despite all the jokes I made about Brandon

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Wimbush for the last two years at Notre Dame, he

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>still is a very talented quarterback and he's good enough

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to win. We saw that he's good enough to win

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>some high level college football games. I think with this

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>offense around him, he's going to have an opportunity to thrive.

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>So this is a really good team. You mentioned the

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Stanford game. They've also got pit They've got Temple, They've

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>got Cincinnati. They're probably the favorite in the American East.

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>The gap between them and maybe the next closest in

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the American East has probably closed, and it's not quite

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>as much of a clear cut thing as it was

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>in the past. But this is still a very good

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>football team. I'll accept it.

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 2>At State. North Carolina doesn't really intrigue me as a

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Capital C college football game like the previous one does,

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 2>but we get some insight into two new coaches. I

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 2>believe North Carolina is starting Sam Howell, right, Yeah, bit

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 2>of Baker Mayfield in him. That's a fantasy thing is

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 2>reference that you have to listen to. We're not just

0:29:55.880 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 2>being randomly obnoxious, We're being pointedly obnoxious. An app State

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.239
<v Speaker 2>with Eli Drinkwitz. What do they look like bringing their

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 2>quarterback back and Zach Thomas. I think it's gonna be

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>interesting insight. That's all I have for that.

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Zach Thomas was real good. Last year he was he

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>was State was real good. Last year State was good.

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Zach Thomas was real good. Talk about a dude, he's real,

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>real good.

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech Temple to finish out September just insight again,

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>two new coaches, one who left behind one of these schools. Great.

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to see what I saw what the Tech

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 2>depth chart looked like. It was like an effort based

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 2>four two five is literally what it said on the

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>depth chart. As for what system they're running, which gets

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 2>my full enthusiastic support behind Georgia Tech. But yeah, Temple,

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Rod Kerry, we'll see. I think it's going to be

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 2>a new beast for him. But I'm excited for this game.

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Temple's been very good at hiring coaches, Yeah, if only

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 1>because a large number of their coaches all their coaches

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of years, their new coaches have

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>gone elsewhere. Many Diaz went elsewhere in a month.

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Former Temple coach Mani Das, You're correct, Yeah.

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Went somewhere else in a month. So they've proven I

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>think that they know how to pick good coaches. And

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Rod Carey has had success elsewhere. I'm curious to see

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>what he can do in Philly.

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 2>All right, fair enough, where would you like to go

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>to speak further about some of these group of five

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 2>games and conferences?

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>So Dan, here's what we're going to do on this show.

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I've got this list like fifteen teams, fiften really good

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>group of five teams. I want to talk through each

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>of them, and I want to see if we can

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>place them on a totem pole kind of an impromptu

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>ranking to figure out who are the real contenders, the

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>elite level competitors who can compete with anybody, right, and

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>who are the teams that are maybe a run or

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>two below that, Just to try and provide some context,

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>because again, you listed off all the incredible non conference

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>matchups that we're going to see. It stands the reason

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>we'll see some upsets there. How do some of these

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>teams fit within the greater team that is college football

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteens. That sound like a plan.

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 2>So I think how we define the top pack of

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 2>teams is they can hang with basically anybody. Maybe not Oklahoma,

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe not Clemson, maybe not Ohio State, maybe not Alabama

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>or Georgia. But after that top top, no doubt about

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:22.959
<v Speaker 2>it group. These are teams that can give anybody trouble,

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 2>if not just win, just beat a team. So I

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 2>will I'll say UCF, okay for sure, as in that group,

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I would I would love to put Fresno State and

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Boise State in that group. Okay, I'd put Memphis in

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>that group, all right. And I don't know if I'm

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 2>there with Ohio yet, but I do like them a lot.

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I do like Nathan Rourke and Ohio and the Bobcats.

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'm with you on UCF because UCF has clearly

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>been there for a couple of years, still a really

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>good football team. Yeah, I'm also with you on Boise

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>because Boise has also been there. Boise brings back a

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>ton from last season, and I think they're at least

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 1>a sixteen point favorite in like seven conference games. So

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Boise State is going to be going to be pretty

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>good again. I'm all in on Memphis this year. I

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>feel pretty good about Memphis. I don't know if I

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>want to lump anyone else in there. Maybe arm Do

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I put Army in there?

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean I should have put Cincinnati in there.

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I should have put Cincinnati and Army I think belongs

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 2>in that conversation as well. I didn't. Wasn't. They're not

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 2>technically group of five since their FBS independent. But yes,

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 2>and we should be talking Army absolutely as a non

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 2>power five, Notre Dame type school that we should be

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 2>putting in this conversation.

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm writing these down now just so we have them.

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>So we've got you SEF. Sorry if this is confusing

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>for you listening, but we're really just working this out

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>for the first time here. Yeah, on the air, we've

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>got UCF. I think that's a given. We've got Boise

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that is also a given. Beyond that, I think we

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>agree on Memphis. Yes, Yes, Memphis is good enough to

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>hang with pretty much anyone. And then after Memphis we

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 1>start talking about, all right, what about Fresno. Fresno is interesting, yep,

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>what about Army Armising?

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 2>It would genuinely surprise me. If Army did not win

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 2>double digit games this year, you.

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Have Cincinnati here, correct, and then we've got what do

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you do about a team like a Houston.

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think Houston's there. I don't think Houston's there.

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I think defensively, they're going to be such an open book,

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.800
<v Speaker 2>if you will, that it's going to They're going to

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 2>be more of like the seven and five, eight and

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 2>four type. Even if things go incredibly well on offense,

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 2>it's just a year one thing to me, dangerous wild

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 2>card but not upper upper level. Could hang with pretty

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 2>much everybody in college football in the way that some

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 2>of those other teams could. Cincinnati has UCF I believe,

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 2>at home and Houston on the road in consecutive weeks.

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 2>But otherwise it's a pretty good looking schedule till the

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 2>end of the year. In Memphis. That's that's what's nice.

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they have Ohio State early. It's a I

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't say tough. It's a sizable schedule, but I think

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>they're at the point now with defense, quarterback, running game

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 2>that they can they can weather a lot.

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>You talked about Houston, and I think the big liability

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>for Houston is is clearly their defense. Did we mention

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Dearic King? If we did, can we mention him again?

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Because the potential three thousand yard passer, one thousand yard rusher,

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 1>He's got an incredible grouping of skill talent around him

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that I think will help. My issue is, of course,

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the defense.

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>And Dana Holgerson running the team.

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Dana Holgerson, Yeah, yeah, I could see this

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>team being anywhere between seven and five and ten and two.

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Ten and two is a big ask.

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Really, there's a lot of variability there. The defense is

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>so mediocre, it's just a matter of how mediocre did

0:35:58.000 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>they end up being. And I think that's the difference

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>between honestly, two losses in five.

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you're a little optimistic with Houston. I

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 2>think it's a lot of offense and that's sort of it.

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 2>But I'm looking I'm pulling up their schedule right now,

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.800
<v Speaker 2>and we mentioned the Oklahoma matchup and the Wazoo matchup,

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 2>So don't feel great about either one of those. At

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Tulane's going to be tough. At North Texas, even though

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.279
<v Speaker 2>it's out of conference in a smaller school, I think,

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, mean Green even with the new offensive Cordney

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 2>will be pretty tough at UCF. Memphis. Navy, I imagine

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 2>will be improved this year after hitting a pretty low

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:31.919
<v Speaker 2>point last year. I just there's a lot there that's

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 2>going to really push this Houston defense.

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I do agree with you though that Houston's probably not

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 1>on that level. The defense keeps them beneath that level.

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 1>But they're going to be interesting. That opening week game

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:47.760
<v Speaker 1>against Oklahoma for a couple of quarters could be interesting.

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I think, well, I think they're going to ultimately lose comfortably,

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 2>but I think they have the most exciting single player

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 2>offensively of any group of five school. And if d

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>err King is all right, for sure, let's.

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Talk about North Texas because North Texas was not on

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that list. Yeah, North Texas might have the best offense

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>in one of the best offenses in the group of five,

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>probably the best offense in Conference w HUSA at a minimum.

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>But really, like Mason Fine, really like Seth Latrell, who's

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>been on the program before, talking through all things scheme,

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>the defense loses standouts at both linebacker and cornerback, which

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I think is going to play somewhat of a limiting factor.

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>But they're really good at the back end of their defense.

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>They know how to rush the passer, which is nice.

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>They've got a non conference slate against SMU and Houston,

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>which isn't crazy, So it feels like this is a

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 1>season that has a lot of upset potential. It's just

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a look at the defense, and much like Houston, it's

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of tough to square that with the offense and

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 1>really get a good feel for where I think this

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>team ends up.

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had a good offense last year. I didn't

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 2>always finish drives, but they moved the ball really well.

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 2>It's nice to have Mason Fine back. I'm not even

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 2>sure which offense I like better. I just think it's

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:25.359
<v Speaker 2>going to be sort of wide open offensively Conference USA wise. Defensively,

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 2>there are other teams that are definitely ahead, even with

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:31.280
<v Speaker 2>what Marshall loses. They were so good last year up front,

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 2>and I was very excited because I thought they were

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 2>getting I'm talking about thundering herd. Now I've shifted the conversation.

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:39.320
<v Speaker 2>I thought they were going to have a guy named

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 2>ty Tyler, which no official defensive lineman of the Solid Verbal,

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 2>but he transferred to Louisville, so Alas no Conference USA

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 2>ty Tyler, which was all name USA. So yeah, I

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 2>think North Texas is going to be good, but you know,

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 2>redoing a little bit on offense, but the continuity of

0:38:56.960 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 2>quarterback and coach and okay, skill guy should be promising enough.

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>They're definitely in that grouping I think below the very top.

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 1>They probably fall along the same lines, maybe a bit

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 1>below Houston, but they're kind of there in the pecking order.

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, offense took a step back last year, but still good.

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about Ohio next, so let's do that.

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Ohio started the year last year three and three, and

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 1>then after that they played like one of the better

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 1>teams in the country. They were really good over a

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>stretch last season and you got to be excited this

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>year because Nathan Rourke is back always he is always back.

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>They've got a fair amount of depth along their defensive line,

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>particularly at end and at cornerbacks. So group of five

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 1>team pretty stout when it comes to key elements of

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>their defense. I think that's something else that I like.

0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 1>But they've got some issues along their line wide at

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>their skill positions, and they've got real issues. Much like

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.759
<v Speaker 1>my Notre Dame fighting Irish right up the spine of

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that defense. I think if you run right out Ohio,

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>that could be a problem. That's something that Frank Solish

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>needs to figure out. Frank Soulich, by the way, still coaching,

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>which is amazing.

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the great thing about Ohio is this was really

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.399
<v Speaker 2>a tale of two seasons, like you mentioned last year,

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 2>and so if there is any momentum to what they

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:24.760
<v Speaker 2>did at the end of last year, which is winning

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 2>what six of seven including the bowl game, just demolishing

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 2>a not that good San Diego State, but still when

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 2>you shut out a team in a bowl, that's a thing.

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 2>And they don't make it to the MAX Championship Game,

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 2>but they still look like they were among the MAX

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 2>best last year, especially as good as they got on defense,

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, in mid to late October.

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.439
<v Speaker 1>So I think I put Ohio a rungbull in North

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Texas then, mainly because well because of my questions on defense.

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I like Nathan Rourke though more than

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I like Mason Fine, more than Mason Fine. Really yeah,

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I think so, yeah, it was really good.

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 1>He's a senior now, and despite the fact that Ohio

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>has been really good in the Mac East, they still

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>haven't won that division. It's true the last two years,

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>so hopefully for his sake, that's something that they can change.

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Fresno now. They've got I think a

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:25.919
<v Speaker 1>fair amount of targets coming back from a year ago,

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>not the least of which his guys who can come

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>out of the backfield and catch passes. But the new

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 1>quarterback thing. Jeff Tedford in the past has been pretty

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.240
<v Speaker 1>good at dealing with that situation.

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he reached out with Marcus mcmaray in Oregon State,

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:44.439
<v Speaker 2>bring him in and looked great.

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>He's been outstanding in his time at Fresno. That's looking

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 1>like an incredible hire for the Bulldogs. I'm just not

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 1>sure how high I want to rank them, knowing that

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>this is their starting point with the new quarterback.

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 2>The defense is it's been great. Recruiting has been really strong,

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 2>as it always should be at Fresno State. You should

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 2>be able to find plenty of high level Mountain West players.

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 2>If you remember my plan, if Oregon slash budgets by

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 2>like seventy five percent, would to be just cherry pick whatever. Fresno,

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Boise and San Diego State are recruiting because they're good

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 2>at identifying, you know, those dudes that they can turn

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:22.240
<v Speaker 2>into draft type players, like NFL type players. Jeff Allison

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 2>was one of the more recent guys at linebacker who

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 2>was everywhere for the Bulldogs. He's gone, but there are

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 2>bodies in the San Joaquin Valley. So I'm still pretty

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 2>high on Fresno State and will continue to do so

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 2>and continue to be so unless proven otherwise. So I

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 2>think I like Fresno out coming out of the Mountain

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 2>West again, despite the quarterback uncertain Fresno higher.

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Or lower than North Texas?

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Higher? Oh, definitely higher?

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Higher? I agree, yeah, higher, lower than Ohio. You had

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Ohio over North Texas. Oh, Fresno is above Ohio. Yeah,

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 1>fresnent's a bub Ohio.

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>It's Fresno above.

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:06.439
<v Speaker 2>Army probably, yeah. I just I'm always worried with Army

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 2>going down, you know, eleven points and then having to

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to change things.

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Up a little bit. It's Fresno above Houston, Yes, Fresno

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>above Boise. Yeah, it's Fresno above Alabama. Just shoot me straight.

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:19.479
<v Speaker 2>Is all they played last year. I believe Adam Amin

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 2>called that game. They are not above Alabama. Fresnoe schedule

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.479
<v Speaker 2>this year at USC Minnesota to start the season off.

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Not easy. Uh So we'll learn a little bit about

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>the Bulldogs early on. But in terms of their road schedule,

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 2>they travel to Hawaii, which is always going to be

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 2>tricky and I don't I guess it doesn't work where

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 2>you get like a week off before or after because

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.959
<v Speaker 2>they just have a schedule. They're at the Inego State

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.879
<v Speaker 2>but otherwise Utah States at home, novat Is at home.

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>This was a decent Avata team last year. I think

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>they'll take a step back, but all in all, Mountain

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 2>West wise, pretty advantageous schedule. They don't have boys C

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 2>in the regular season. I don't believe they have Wyoming

0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>in the regular season, who you know, have been trickyly

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:01.359
<v Speaker 2>these past couple of years and I think are going

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 2>to continue to improve. So yeah, I like the Bulldogs

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch.

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned San Diego State. Last year they had a

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 1>losing streak which was uncharacteristic.

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 2>M m.

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 1>They struggled on offense, the defense wore down mm hmm,

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and it didn't work out as well as it has

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 1>in past years for San Diego State. Right this year,

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.440
<v Speaker 1>they've got a loaded running back core and they're going

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 1>to run the ball a lot.

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 2>This is what more of a spread look, But yes,

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 2>this is.

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:32.839
<v Speaker 1>What they're gonna do. They're gonna run the crap out

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of the ball. And the schedule sets up pretty well

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 1>for them. According to projections, they're in line for like

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>eleven wins.

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.760
<v Speaker 2>San Diego State, San Diego State. I think they're coming

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 2>back down to earth a little bit. I think they're

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 2>more like eight to nine wins.

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Don't shoot the messenger. I understand the numbers, like the Aztecs,

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>all right.

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 2>But I mean it's because what they like John Washington,

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 2>They're like they schedule trol The ball schedule is very favorable. Yah.

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 2>They're replacing a lot on this defense, which is good bad,

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 2>who knows. But I just I don't think they have

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 2>the pieces that they had two three, four years ago

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 2>when they were just an incredible half team, when they

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 2>were keeping teams to like five point two points a

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 2>games that level.

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>To app State, let's do it as we continue jumping around.

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Better than Alabama. Yes, it's the answer. Preemptive.

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>App State's got a new coach, Eli Drinkquitz comes over

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>from NC State. He's got a really good, healthy football program.

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Incredibly.

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:40.399
<v Speaker 1>App State is twenty second nationally in returning production, so

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys come back who have been productive.

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 1>We mentioned Zach Thomas, a full on dude. Last year

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 1>was his first year as starting quarterback. The defense has

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 1>been really good, very consistent over the last couple of seasons.

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:57.360
<v Speaker 1>The problem that I have with app State is that

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 1>they're going to ted Roof now.

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 2>The problem with that state is that Scott Sadderfield is

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 2>no longer Scott Saderfield no longer there. But yeah, I have.

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Been part of that ted Roof experience before.

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>You've heard me joke about leaky Roof on the show

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>dating back to his time at Penn State. I don't

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:22.759
<v Speaker 1>really know what to expect. I would hope that the

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 1>defense continues playing at a very high level, but I

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.319
<v Speaker 1>have seen ted Roof's work before, and I reserve the

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 1>right to be skeptical.

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.280
<v Speaker 2>I think that's fair. They have a beatable North Carolina

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 2>team week three, as we mentioned, they get a chance

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 2>at the revenge on Halloween against Georgia Southern. They're traveling,

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:43.320
<v Speaker 2>They're traveling to Troy, New Coach at Troy and they're

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 2>at South Carolina as well later on in the season.

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 2>So app State has its work cut out for him.

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 2>But new coach and Will Healey at Charlotte on their schedule,

0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I think they're going to be pretty good. I think

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 2>this is going to They're going to take a step back,

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.839
<v Speaker 2>but not demonstrably so eight and four, nine and three.

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 2>When you have the quarterback, when you have the pieces

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 2>on defense, which I always love that combo, they're good.

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be good. They're not gonna be capital g good.

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 2>They're not gonna be like they were these past couple

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 2>of years, probably, But I like, I like the talent

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 2>they have on this roster enough that they're going to

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:18.280
<v Speaker 2>be in every I can't imagine them just being fully

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 2>not in either what North Carolina or the South Carolina

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 2>or the Georgia Southern Game or the Troy Again, they're

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna be in everything, if not winning, you know, damn

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 2>near double digits.

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>The thing is, they're still far ahead of the rest

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>of the Sun Belt. Yeah, and they're only gonna be

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 1>dogs against South Carolina. Otherwise, this is still a really

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:42.320
<v Speaker 1>good football team. Eli Drinkwitz picked a great situation, a

0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 1>great definitely. I don't know if they're on that top rung,

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:48.720
<v Speaker 1>but they're still in a very healthy spot.

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I think they're on the second rung. I do. I

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 2>think they can hang with anybody on that first rung,

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 2>but in terms of week two week, because we saw

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.879
<v Speaker 2>them hang with Penn State last year. Sure, So if

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 2>if you consider them me a first run team, I

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.800
<v Speaker 2>can't mount a significant argument against it. There are teams

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:06.279
<v Speaker 2>that I like in the Sun Belt. I don't think

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:09.400
<v Speaker 2>the gap is super wide, but they are the class

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 2>of the league. Yeah.

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>So here's my thing with Army as we move on,

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Army plays Michigan an all offseason. We've been talking about

0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:20.799
<v Speaker 1>how that's a tasty non conference game.

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Mm hm.

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 1>We could see that as potentially an issue for Michigan.

0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.520
<v Speaker 2>That's I mean, Army is a potential issue for anybody.

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I like Kelvin Hopkins A lot took over at quarterback

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 1>last year was outstanding. I'm curious now to see how

0:48:38.400 --> 0:48:41.799
<v Speaker 1>the line reacts with Bryce Holland gone, Okay, a big

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>time center. Yeah, well that fine still compete at that

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>same high level, I think. So the other thing is

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 1>they lost their defensive coordinator to Mac Brown in North Carolina.

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think Jay Bateman was great. He was fine.

0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the so much of their defense is their

0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 2>offense is that alley oop of the offense, you know,

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 2>just completely wearing down the other team and the other

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 2>offense getting a little bit cold on the sideline. Army's

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:12.840
<v Speaker 2>at Michigan this year, but beyond that at Hawaii is

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 2>going to be That's a trip, ty They at least

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:19.240
<v Speaker 2>get a week off before traveling seventy thousand miles from

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:21.600
<v Speaker 2>from the Hudson Valley to the islands in the middle

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 2>of the Pacific, But otherwise, what is the schedule they get.

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Tulane's tricky at home. Western Kentucky has not been good,

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think Tyson Helton's gonna do all that

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 2>much this year anyway. San Jose State's been not great.

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Air Force should be improved, and they're they're always tricky,

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 2>and the game is in Colorado. But UMass BMI Navy

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 2>improved Navy right now, not sure it matters because Army

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:50.280
<v Speaker 2>has taken control, so UTSA hasn't been good. Rice hasn't

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 2>been good. The sure thing losses Michigan, and even that

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel like a one sure thing.

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's do a quick regrouping here of

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the totem pole. We've got a few teams left to

0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 1>discuss songs at the top. We've got UCF Underneath UCF,

0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 1>we've got Boise and Memphis. Sound right so far?

0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I would have Fresno for me in that you know

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 2>that group.

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put Memphis above Fresno.

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:21.880
<v Speaker 2>But why Boise above Fresno?

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Both teams are going to have new starting quarterbacks. I

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:28.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like Boise's got more coming back that I feel.

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, a lot on that defense. There's a lot coming

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 2>back on that boys, a lot on the defense. Yeah, okay,

0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I would still I hesitate to have any sort of

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 2>tear or wrung with one of those teams and not

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:37.879
<v Speaker 2>the other.

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:42.720
<v Speaker 1>After that, after Fresno, I guess we have what Houston?

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Houston? App State? I think is in that conversation Ohio.

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:49.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it's all how do.

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>You feel app State versus Ohio? I think I go Ohio.

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I think, hey, go app State, app State?

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Ohio? Okay, yeah, in some words.

0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Go upstate. Yeah.

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Do we throw San Diego State at the bottom.

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm willing to talk about the Aztecs there. Cincinnati,

0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I think has to be on that app State Ohio rung.

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, we didn't talk much about Cincinnati, but let's let's

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 1>bring them up here.

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, since we've we did to talk about Memphis that

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 2>much either, but they're at the top to discuss.

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 1>We'll we'll bring up Memphis. Yeah sure, yeah, Cincinnati again.

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:24.799
<v Speaker 1>One eleven games last year. Desmond Ritter was a bit

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:30.120
<v Speaker 1>of a revelation. Inefficient in spots, but he knows how

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 1>to use his legs, he knows how to extend plays,

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and he knows how to work with Michael Warren. The

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 1>second the problem this year is that they are rebuilding

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the line, rebuilding the line. If they can rebuild it

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and have some level of success, the potential here is monstrous.

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, really really good.

0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Last year the defense was very very good, dominant against

0:51:56.719 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the run. I am very curus is to see what

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>happens now because they've got some turnover upfront. If they

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 1>can still perform at a high level, they're gonna have

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:09.960
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to show out against some quality opponents. You

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.400
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Ohio State, that run defense is going to have

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to show what it can do. If they

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 1>can't get that figured out in a hurry. If Ritter

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 1>can't continue to play at the love we saw last year,

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:20.240
<v Speaker 1>that could be an issue.

0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's all reasonable. But yeah, I mean

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 2>the defense with the promising backfield, I think is plenty.

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:28.759
<v Speaker 2>To have Cincinnati in one of those wrung conversations, I

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.720
<v Speaker 2>think it's worth talking about. I mean there are elements

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:36.200
<v Speaker 2>of teams like even just in conference USA, UAB and

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Southern Miss both had great defenses last year, and Spencer

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Brown is back and should be incredible for the Blazers,

0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Your UAB Blazers, So I think they're going to be

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:48.320
<v Speaker 2>in a nice place. Marshall, I mentioned is replacing a

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 2>bunch of dudes, but defensively, they were in a great place.

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.160
<v Speaker 2>What are your Memphis thoughts? You have them right under

0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 2>uc Yeah, They've always been these past couple of years,

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:02.400
<v Speaker 2>not always so this past air of American football, Memphis

0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:06.280
<v Speaker 2>has been right there with UCF. I mean, the offensive

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:09.919
<v Speaker 2>combination is super interesting. It's going to be a great offense. Yeah,

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 2>it will be Brady White.

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:17.600
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned demonte Coxy Joey Magnifico at tight end. How

0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 1>do you not like him? The questions, the line questions,

0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the line and the questions the coordinators. If you can

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 1>get that sorted out, I think they're in really good

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:29.640
<v Speaker 1>shape defensively. They were very young a year ago, very

0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:32.839
<v Speaker 1>young a year ago, and weren't we all we were

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>all a lot young, much different world. If they're a

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:39.879
<v Speaker 1>little better on defense, that goes a long way. I

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:42.799
<v Speaker 1>like the fact that you look at their schedule, they're

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:46.520
<v Speaker 1>probably a favorite in just about every game. Yeah, so

0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 1>for me, there are just fewer things to worry about.

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:51.719
<v Speaker 1>So many of the pieces are in place. It's really

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:53.719
<v Speaker 1>just a matter of the line, the defense playing a

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:55.880
<v Speaker 1>little better than they did a year ago, and the

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:57.319
<v Speaker 1>coordinator's not screwing it up.

0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:59.919
<v Speaker 2>I don't know again which wrong this is. I've lost

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:02.840
<v Speaker 2>out of the tiers. But Utah States, we're talking about

0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Utah State. I've got him on my list as well.

0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:07.799
<v Speaker 2>There we're talking about. What do you. Let's give him

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 2>something to talk about.

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Ty. I don't like that, Jordan Love, I don't like

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:14.120
<v Speaker 1>that they hired Gary Anderson back. It was good for

0:54:14.200 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 1>them all those years ago. He was he was Jordan

0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 1>like the higher But yeah, at quarterback is back. The

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:24.480
<v Speaker 1>receiving core, though, is entirely new. It is the offensive

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:26.280
<v Speaker 1>line bit of a question.

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. And their defense was so good last year.

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Though the defense was really good last year. I loved

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:35.440
<v Speaker 1>David Woodward, but there's a lot of turnover at linebacker

0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:38.000
<v Speaker 1>as well. Oh and it's safety. While we're at it.

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 2>The thing that's rough about Utah State their schedule just

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 2>doesn't stop. That's the problem.

0:54:45.360 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I think they are Fresno, Boise, he comes to town.

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 2>They open at wake. San Diego's on the road, Sanego

0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:55.600
<v Speaker 2>State's on the road. We've got BYU and Logan, I believe.

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:58.000
<v Speaker 2>But Air Force is on the road, Fresno's on the road.

0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:00.839
<v Speaker 2>Wyoming's to be tricky at tricky out. Boise's at home

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 2>at least, but not a lot of weeks off no

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 2>for Utah State, and you know, thank god they have

0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love and a pretty experienced defense. But it's it's

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:11.239
<v Speaker 2>going to test them for sure.

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:14.400
<v Speaker 1>So let's round this out here. Yeah, we're in agreement

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:16.879
<v Speaker 1>that you CEF is one, U, c F is one,

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:23.360
<v Speaker 1>bois two. We have some disagreement over I guess the

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.400
<v Speaker 1>next three between Boise, Memphis and Fresno.

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:32.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have Boise next. I'm gonna take I'm gonna

0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:33.840
<v Speaker 2>take Fresno next.

0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're going Fresno next. I'm going high on the Bulldogs.

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Then I'm going so I'm going u c F, Boise,

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Memphis and Fresno. You're going UCF Fresno, Boise and then

0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Memphis Memphis, then Boise, Memphis and Boise. Okay, yeah, I

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:50.279
<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be a downturn for Boise this year.

0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:52.919
<v Speaker 1>After that, I think we get into the next rung

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 1>is what I'm what I'm feeling here, and that next

0:55:56.120 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 1>rung consists of probably Houston next, and in some combination

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati and app State.

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking Cincinnati over Houston.

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati over Houston. Okay, I'm just I'm putting more value

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:12.320
<v Speaker 1>on defense here. Then we've got Ohio and San Diego

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>State also on the list. There are maybe two or

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 1>three other teams that we need to place here before

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.160
<v Speaker 1>we can let the fine people go. You toss state?

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Where does you toss state? Rank? On this?

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:27.279
<v Speaker 2>The schedule has they're in the they're in this worth

0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 2>talking about tier of group of five teams, but they're

0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:30.680
<v Speaker 2>add or near the bottom.

0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to put them above San Diego State. Okay,

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 1>We've also got Army in here.

0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:39.360
<v Speaker 2>I would have Army right after like I would have

0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 2>them probably after Boise Sincy somewhere in there.

0:56:44.000 --> 0:56:45.280
<v Speaker 1>They're going to win double digits.

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 2>I would have Ohio right around there. I think I

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:49.719
<v Speaker 2>have an app State over Ohio. I believe that's what

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:52.879
<v Speaker 2>I said, Yes, but my memory is short. We've also

0:56:53.000 --> 0:56:54.279
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, I think I have to have

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Ohio over San Diego State. We last time these two

0:56:56.840 --> 0:57:00.280
<v Speaker 2>teams played Ohio shut them the hell out for sure.

0:57:00.640 --> 0:57:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't have North Texas on our list here.

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I have North Texas maybe right below app State.

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've no, I got them below Utah State.

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Blow Utah State.

0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm down on the mean green a little bit. Yeah, seven,

0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:15.399
<v Speaker 2>eight and four.

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's it for all the teams that we

0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:20.400
<v Speaker 1>mentioned here. And I apologize to the listeners if this

0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 1>was a bit disorganized, but this is sort of a

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 1>real conversation. We're working this out on the spot, trying

0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to figure out are we come down on a group

0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of five. There are a lot of teams to talk about,

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of teams to talk about, but at a minimum,

0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:34.280
<v Speaker 1>we have a consensus that our four favorite group of

0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:38.280
<v Speaker 1>five teams are UCF, boy C, Memphis, and Fresno in

0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:39.320
<v Speaker 1>no particular order.

0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:41.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give you some wild cards.

0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's let's rifle through them, real quick.

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Wild cards to consider. I mean, we mentioned to Lane

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 2>a couple times, but of all of these teams, they

0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 2>might have the best defensive line, and that is something

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 2>that is something that is significant. So I'm saying keep

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:58.200
<v Speaker 2>an eye into Lane. They've got an angry wave logo.

0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:00.880
<v Speaker 2>What's better than that. Temple was good a year ago,

0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:03.320
<v Speaker 2>even with a new coach. I expect them to remain good,

0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:09.480
<v Speaker 2>especially on defense. Conference USA wise, I think we covered

0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:12.600
<v Speaker 2>everybody worth covering, and Neil Lanekiff and Fau, you know

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 2>they have talent on offense. But man, what a step

0:58:15.080 --> 0:58:17.440
<v Speaker 2>back last year. What an incredible step back. So it's

0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 2>hard to see just a complete reversal again. The bottom

0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>of Conference USA is is and should be rough, and

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:29.320
<v Speaker 2>that's unfortunate. Any any thoughts about UMAs new Mexico State

0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:31.960
<v Speaker 2>b YU we haven't talked about. I'm kind of high

0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:34.000
<v Speaker 2>on BYU. I don't know where they'd fit in among

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:36.600
<v Speaker 2>all of these teams as an independent, but with a young,

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:39.840
<v Speaker 2>promising quarterback and things in order. I think they should

0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:43.120
<v Speaker 2>be okay, they just have a tough schedule. Listen to

0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:49.480
<v Speaker 2>these these these first eight games for by Utah, Tennessee,

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:54.720
<v Speaker 2>USC Tennessee on the road, Washington at Toledo at USF

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<v Speaker 2>which should be okay, not great, Uh, Boise State at

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<v Speaker 2>Utah State. That's the first state. They have a bye

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<v Speaker 2>before Utah State. They have a bye before Usflat's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a slate. And then they finished pretty nicely with Liberty,

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<v Speaker 2>Idaho State, UMass, San Diego State, both on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think Poise, I think by using me pretty good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Well they go nine and four last year, yeah nine

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<v Speaker 2>one team I mean had a Bowl game. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>they're improving. They're going in the right direction. Other teams

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<v Speaker 2>at least, I mean not at least definitely worth mentioning

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<v Speaker 2>from a group of five standpoint, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>and where they would fit in on any sort of

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<v Speaker 2>wrong but I mean we barely talked about the MAC

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<v Speaker 2>other than Ohio. But Western Michigan still decent. Eastern Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>had a hell of a defense last year and pulled

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<v Speaker 2>off a couple of pretty impressive wins. And I you

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<v Speaker 2>wins the damn Conference, and we haven't really talked about them.

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<v Speaker 2>Buffalo is good but loses a lot, but I really

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<v Speaker 2>think they're really well coached. Mountain West wise, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we hit a bunch. I mean we hit Hawaii at

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<v Speaker 2>the top. Think they're gonna throw on everybody and get

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<v Speaker 2>intercepted potentially by everybody. But Cedric Byrd was crazy fun

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<v Speaker 2>to watch against Arizona, and I suspect he will be

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<v Speaker 2>against everybody else on Hawaii's schedule. Colorado State interesting moves

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<v Speaker 2>in the transfer game. I think they'll have an okay year,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they lose a good amount on offense air force.

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<v Speaker 2>I think bounces back. I mentioned that I'm intrigued by Wyoming.

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<v Speaker 2>Nevada was a bold team a year ago. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're not as good this year. And UNLV is dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>They are weekend week out, dangerous to either themselves or

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<v Speaker 2>to whoever they're playing. So I can't wait, honestly for

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<v Speaker 2>Mountain West football this year because I think at and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the top is sort of loosely defined in

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<v Speaker 2>my brain. But the competitive teams in the Mountain West

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<v Speaker 2>I think run pretty deep, so it should be a

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<v Speaker 2>fun year out West.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, please do right in. Let us know

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on the Group of five. Yep, we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to do a preview show on I guess Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>which will go up and hit the airwaves on Thursday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't said it yet on the show, we did

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<v Speaker 1>say it at our live shows. This year's Solid Rebel

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<v Speaker 1>is going to feature a little bit of a different schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>So typically what we've done in the past is a

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<v Speaker 1>review show every Sunday morning, goes up around noon lunchtime

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern time here to recap all the action, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we do our previews show on Wednesday, which goes up

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<v Speaker 1>late on Wednesday night. This year, because on that Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>show we can never quite cover the full scope of

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<v Speaker 1>college football the way we would like, we've decided to

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<v Speaker 1>add another show just for the season. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing shows on Sunday, which would go up still

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<v Speaker 1>around lunchtime Eastern Time, as well as on Tuesday morning

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<v Speaker 1>very early. We'll drop it around six am in time

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<v Speaker 1>for your morning commute, so we talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about what went on in the past weekend of

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<v Speaker 1>college football, and then on on Thursday early morning again

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<v Speaker 1>in time for your commute. That will be the new

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<v Speaker 1>posting time for our weekly previews show. So yes, Luno,

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<v Speaker 1>those trees three shows talking about college football every week

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<v Speaker 1>during the college football season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, think of it like this. It's the preview, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the recap. Nothing really changes there. And then the Monday

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<v Speaker 2>slash Tuesday show that we're doing is trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>sense of everything, trying to see where everything fits in.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe answer a couple of your questions, Maybe do some segments,

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<v Speaker 2>try to stretch a little bit, not stretch in the

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<v Speaker 2>way of like kill time, but stretch in the let's

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<v Speaker 2>touch on a bunch of things that we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>time usually to touch on. And in years past we've

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<v Speaker 2>done the deep dives on specific teams. I think those

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<v Speaker 2>will be sort of micro segments within that newer big

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<v Speaker 2>picture show. But we're excited to we have fun talking

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<v Speaker 2>about is this team better than this team? Is this

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<v Speaker 2>conference looking real weird? You know, if there's a guest

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<v Speaker 2>that is going to add something, we'll have him or

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<v Speaker 2>her on And that's that's the sort of cool thing

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<v Speaker 2>that we want to h to flex our our lean

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<v Speaker 2>muscles doing well. There you have it, so our lean

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<v Speaker 2>podcasting muscle Lean podcasting muscles. We will leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Please get right in soliverble at gmail dot com. We

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<v Speaker 1>will be back on Thursday correct posting our week one preview. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we will be posting on our website.

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<v Speaker 2>Give that sentence, give it some zazz.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying not to get too excited today.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Oh my gosh, it's week one.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be posting details you want to get in

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<v Speaker 1>on the Pickam game as well, mm hmm on the website,

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<v Speaker 1>on the twitter feed, Facebook, Instagram, all the usual hotspots.

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<v Speaker 1>But take a deep breath, because the season is near.

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<v Speaker 2>It is I'm excited for that. Go over there, my good.

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<v Speaker 1>Friend Dan Rubinstein for myself, Tie Hildebrand will be back

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<v Speaker 1>in just a few days to talk some actual college football.

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<v Speaker 1>At the meantime, say silent yes,