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Speaker 1: Wait Well with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia
Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, October tenth, twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: Season thirteen, episode number fifty four. Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of The Break, Live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At
Speaker 1: the start, we've got breaking, breaking, breaking news for you guys. Actually,
Speaker 1: if you listened to The Break regularly, you actually probably
Speaker 1: knew that this could be a possibility, or maybe it
Speaker 1: was coming because we've been talking about this for the
Speaker 1: last couple of days. But we've we've now started to
Speaker 1: hear reports and suggestions at the Cowboys actually gonna make
Speaker 1: a move on. Nolan Carroll, Dave, you've been on top
Speaker 1: of the story since it started breaking. What do we hear? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not I mean, we got our own ways of
Speaker 1: getting information around here. It's not just going off reports
Speaker 1: and other people's knew that was confirmed. It good. We
Speaker 1: have Well, he is not officially not a member of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys anymore, but he will be. He is going
Speaker 1: to be released. Um, biggest free agent signing of twenty seventeen. Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean it's funny because, yeah, and I defended Nolan
Speaker 1: Carroll more than most. I don't think he was, as
Speaker 1: I said, more than most. No, No, I was agreed
Speaker 1: with that. I was just saying that you should never
Speaker 1: I don't think he was as awful during training camp
Speaker 1: as he got a lot of credit for. I certainly
Speaker 1: don't think he had a great stint here Um he was,
Speaker 1: he had a sizeable contract compared to basically everybody else
Speaker 1: at the position, and he's been out for the better
Speaker 1: part of a month and a rookie stepped up and
Speaker 1: kind of took his job away from him. So, um,
Speaker 1: it's it's funny because I didn't go back and listen
Speaker 1: to it. But I think what I remember talking about
Speaker 1: yesterday was it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to
Speaker 1: cut Nolan Carroll. But you know, with Cheeto Woozier's hamstring
Speaker 1: and just the nature of having so many young guys,
Speaker 1: maybe you still want to keep a veteran around. But
Speaker 1: I guess you kind of look at it and say, well,
Speaker 1: he wasn't super good last time he played, and he's
Speaker 1: making a lot of money, and these young guys are
Speaker 1: playing pretty well, So let's just go ahead and move
Speaker 1: across this bridge. Because that's what he was anyway, a
Speaker 1: bridge player. So what do you think that means about Cheeto? Though?
Speaker 1: I know, and I got your point yesterday that until
Speaker 1: he was completely healthy, why lose a body, even as
Speaker 1: bad as I thought he'd play. So I lose a
Speaker 1: veteran body. And we're joking about this the other day
Speaker 1: about how me and Nick are the type of sickos
Speaker 1: who were thinking about this stuff all day every day.
Speaker 1: So I saw this morning. I saw this morning that
Speaker 1: he's gonna probably gonna be cut, and I'm walking my
Speaker 1: dog and I'm thinking about it. I'm like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: how do these numbers make sense? And I came to
Speaker 1: the conclusion that it really doesn't matter, because even without Carol,
Speaker 1: you still have five true cornerbacks. You got Scandrick, you
Speaker 1: got Brown, you got Lewis, you got Cheeto, and you
Speaker 1: have ben abin Wickery. Cheeto's hamstring is obviously a problem,
Speaker 1: but for the time being, you also know that Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods can play nickelbacks, so and then you know you
Speaker 1: have a roster spot, which, for all we know, you
Speaker 1: could use on cornerback, or you could find a way
Speaker 1: to bring another cornerback to the team if you really
Speaker 1: wanted to. But they have enough corners to play a
Speaker 1: game even if Cheeto's not healthy. And then when he
Speaker 1: presumably does get health healthy, hopefully after the bye week,
Speaker 1: then you have plenty of bodies. When you think about that,
Speaker 1: Nick with ben abin Wickery assume I mean, obviously Benet's
Speaker 1: going to be on this team, Carol is not, and
Speaker 1: you're not really saving money. You're actually you still had
Speaker 1: four million. There's a four million dollars guarantee. I think
Speaker 1: on that one he's gonna count. He's gonna count two
Speaker 1: million towards the cab next year, right, So you you're
Speaker 1: basically paying him to walk away. Way. What does that
Speaker 1: really say about kind of how the Cowboys feel about
Speaker 1: him as a player, Well, it means that he wasn't
Speaker 1: going to help them at any point. They didn't feel
Speaker 1: like he was good enough to have in the building.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, and maybe there's more to it
Speaker 1: that that we don't know. Maybe there's more to this,
Speaker 1: uh in the DWI that something's going to go come
Speaker 1: down at some point there. But I think they're just
Speaker 1: going to completely wash their hands of him and say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you gave you plenty of opportunities
Speaker 1: to do things on the field, you didn't do it.
Speaker 1: He got hurt, they had to make sure he was
Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy before he came back, and then
Speaker 1: they just he's not good enough to be on this
Speaker 1: football team. I mean, he's probably better than than been Wickery,
Speaker 1: but at the at the price and everything, I think
Speaker 1: they just want to send a message, and that's this
Speaker 1: is the time to send messages. You think about it too.
Speaker 1: No one care and that's I never had a problem
Speaker 1: with the signing. And don't get there are cowboy fans
Speaker 1: out there right now who are saying I've been saying
Speaker 1: this March, this guy's a bomb. I told him the
Speaker 1: day they signed him, he's a bomb. But they signed
Speaker 1: him two months before they drafted any of these cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: That's the way this works is if you're gonna let
Speaker 1: Brandon car and Morris Claiborne go, you gotta make sure
Speaker 1: you have a competent cornerback who can play for you
Speaker 1: if the draft doesn't work out, or if your draft
Speaker 1: pick tears his ACL or whatever. So you do your
Speaker 1: due diligence, You give yourself some insurance in March, and
Speaker 1: then you addressed the position, and then draft and hopefully
Speaker 1: your draft picks are good enough to make him irrelevant.
Speaker 1: And that appears to be what they feel about the
Speaker 1: situation right now, and your expectation, or at least their expectation,
Speaker 1: probably was that it was going to take a little longer,
Speaker 1: that bridge was going to be necessary for a little longer,
Speaker 1: because it may take those rookies a little longer to
Speaker 1: be ready to play at that level, and it seems
Speaker 1: like Jordan Lewis may have already shown them that good
Speaker 1: enough to play at that level. You talk about the
Speaker 1: necessity of having a veteran guy, to me, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything, at least with Nolan Carroll, right. Veteran means
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing because he hasn't given us that. So let's
Speaker 1: give it to Jordan Lewis and these rookie guys and
Speaker 1: we'll just see if they can manage with what they
Speaker 1: got right now. Yeah, I think that's a good point,
Speaker 1: because it's one thing for veteran to have a veteran
Speaker 1: it's another thing of that veteran isn't playing very well,
Speaker 1: because then you're you're kind of you might as well
Speaker 1: take the young guy and they grow with him, let
Speaker 1: him make the mistakes he's gonna make as a part
Speaker 1: of maturing and getting better. It makes you wonder, you know,
Speaker 1: if if either of those guys, or both of those
Speaker 1: guys preferably had been healthy during training camp, if Nolan
Speaker 1: Carroll's not a cutdown day cut like Cedric Thornton was. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: but obviously they weren't, and so but what it took
Speaker 1: a month for them to feel good enough about their
Speaker 1: young guys that they didn't need him anymore. I guess
Speaker 1: when you still think about it overall, though, do you
Speaker 1: think it was a bad decision for them to sign
Speaker 1: him because they did still guarantee him. It's not a
Speaker 1: ton of money, but it's a it's a significant amount
Speaker 1: of money from the standpoint of just it's not it's
Speaker 1: more it's four million dollars guarantee for a guy play
Speaker 1: two games. Of course, it was a bad decision anytime
Speaker 1: you sign a guy and he can't even make it
Speaker 1: through you know, week five or you know a week
Speaker 1: six of the season. I mean, yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: bad decision. They didn't, especially with the guys that they
Speaker 1: let go. Um, But I was I mean, I wasn't
Speaker 1: one that was like, oh my god, this is a
Speaker 1: horrible move. So I mean, I can't sit here and
Speaker 1: say that that's the that's the epitome of hindsight. Like
Speaker 1: I said, But it was a bad decision, right, it
Speaker 1: has to be a bad you know, it's a it
Speaker 1: was a good decision that didn't pan out. That doesn't
Speaker 1: make it a bad decision. How was it a good decision?
Speaker 1: Because again, what I just said, you need to address
Speaker 1: the position. No, no, no, no no, no. What I said
Speaker 1: what you could address the position. But there were a
Speaker 1: lot of free agents out there, including the guys that
Speaker 1: you let walk out of the door. So I if
Speaker 1: you brought him, if you brought him in, if you
Speaker 1: brought him in and he could only make it five games,
Speaker 1: and then you made the decision that, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: you're going to continue to pay him what you want
Speaker 1: him to leave, that has to be a bad decision.
Speaker 1: Brand cars making double what you're paying, not guarantee, not all,
Speaker 1: it's all player incentives. He's right, exactly. So that's the point.
Speaker 1: So if he plays well, you're happy to pay him
Speaker 1: that amount of money. Right, It wasn't a guarantees that
Speaker 1: There wasn't a big difference in guarantees between these two contracts.
Speaker 1: They didn't want Brandon car Okay, but that's part of
Speaker 1: the decision, right. The decision that they made was that
Speaker 1: they'd opt for Carrol. And when they opted for Carol,
Speaker 1: they ended up with a guy that made it five
Speaker 1: games and only played two. You have, and then they
Speaker 1: paid him to walk away. You have to address the
Speaker 1: position at some point or another otherwise, absolutely right. But again,
Speaker 1: when you sign a player, it's a gamble. It's not necessary.
Speaker 1: That's when you make a good decision or bad decisions.
Speaker 1: I there's good picks, bad picks, right, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is there's nothing Will McClay and this and these
Speaker 1: guys have been great in free agency, and so we're
Speaker 1: not knocking that this was a bad decision. I guarantee
Speaker 1: he'll come right in here and tell you, yeah, we
Speaker 1: messed up that one. Yeah, because you talk about double
Speaker 1: what Brandon car He's gonna play triple the games. He's
Speaker 1: definitely gonna have double the interceptions and all that. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no way that they thought, you know what, just
Speaker 1: let him play four or five games and then we
Speaker 1: cut them. I don't look at it as a bad
Speaker 1: decision because I don't look at him as a guy
Speaker 1: that they ever wanted to be around. But you have
Speaker 1: to pay somebody to play the position. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean funny, this is like ironic. This is like the
Speaker 1: flip for the game. Like I look at it like
Speaker 1: it wasn't a bad decision to go score. You have
Speaker 1: to score, you have to address the points, and so
Speaker 1: you go and you score, and you have to score
Speaker 1: and you can't worry about it, so it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: you know, And it's just funny how it's like it's
Speaker 1: like I see what you're trying to say there. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, but I do. It's like it's just the
Speaker 1: way we look at things like I don't, I don't
Speaker 1: fault Garrett, and then for doing that, and you you did,
Speaker 1: and I don't, it's fault. It's very similar. You're right,
Speaker 1: because you have to sign a player, right, you have
Speaker 1: to pay that player, especially who you who you sign.
Speaker 1: Is where I'm saying, is that was at it. I
Speaker 1: want you to come back in here with a list
Speaker 1: of dudes that were available and affordable that car I've
Speaker 1: been saying, I've been saying forever Brandon Cars a guy
Speaker 1: they should have kept. And that's where I think that
Speaker 1: decision was a port. I'll know how calculated all of
Speaker 1: our decisions are. Um Carrot Kent's always so ready with
Speaker 1: prayer drops. Now I'll sit right here and say I
Speaker 1: didn't think that there was much of a difference between
Speaker 1: Carrol and car Honestly, I didn't know. I had not
Speaker 1: Well here's the deal. I didn't know like other people
Speaker 1: sit and go, No, I didn't know what I didn't
Speaker 1: know what Nolan Carroll was because I hadn't watched a
Speaker 1: whole lot of Nolan Carrell. I did see its abuse him,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know what he was. And I asked
Speaker 1: Brian as soon as they signed, I was like, is
Speaker 1: this what do you think? And he was like, that
Speaker 1: compliment him, Well, that's not that he had a good
Speaker 1: games had a good game against him. He's thinking about
Speaker 1: Bradley Fletch, right, Bradley who Bradley Fletcher Fletcher right that No,
Speaker 1: that last game that the Cowboys played, when the last
Speaker 1: game Dez played a lot versus Nolan Carroll, did he
Speaker 1: not have a few touch I thought it was touchdown? Main.
Speaker 1: My main thing Nolan Carroll is that he's the guy
Speaker 1: that Terence used on Romo's last ever touchdown. That's Carol Well.
Speaker 1: But I guess the point I'm making is I didn't
Speaker 1: know what to expect from Nolan Carroll. What I did
Speaker 1: know is when it came to Brandon Carr, he was
Speaker 1: a reliable cornerback, didn't miss games, and I never thought
Speaker 1: he was as bad as a lot of people thought
Speaker 1: he was. I thought he was a good, solid cornerback,
Speaker 1: and for me, a good solid cornerback when you're trying
Speaker 1: to revamp the position was what you need it. You
Speaker 1: needed that kind of guy to be kind of your
Speaker 1: glue guy and be your bridge guy until those young
Speaker 1: guys could step up. I wish I had had time
Speaker 1: to research this. I know, knowing or Brandon Carr's contract
Speaker 1: was very incentive based. I know that, but I think
Speaker 1: it's guarantees. I want to say, was it wasn't a
Speaker 1: lot more? I want to say six or seven million,
Speaker 1: six or seven million, and guarantees Carol had four that's less.
Speaker 1: You were the ones just saying four million is not significant,
Speaker 1: So two million is now significant. So you're letting, you're
Speaker 1: you're letting go of the guy. You're you're you're still
Speaker 1: paying him less and for the record, letting a guy,
Speaker 1: but he's also gonna play a ton more when guy
Speaker 1: walk over. Four million is not a big deal in
Speaker 1: the world of the NFL. It's foot two million dollars
Speaker 1: difference for a guy that's going to be here is
Speaker 1: a bit. I'm just so they went bargain hunting and
Speaker 1: it didn't work out. That's what they did, right. It
Speaker 1: didn't work out because it was not the right guy.
Speaker 1: Doesn't make it a bad decision. It makes it. It's
Speaker 1: a necessary decision, and honestly it necessary was them having
Speaker 1: to sign a cornerback. Yeah, necessary is not having to
Speaker 1: sign Nolan Carre. I want Brandon car It has to
Speaker 1: be Brandon car Like, that's ridiculous, not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that if you're not going to
Speaker 1: if you're going to make a decision between those two,
Speaker 1: Brandon Carr was the better decision. That's what I'm saying
Speaker 1: Brandon Carr might look equally, but in this defense with
Speaker 1: no other help around him. I mean, he's public enemy
Speaker 1: number one among cows. I don't care about public I
Speaker 1: don't care about what fans think about it. What I
Speaker 1: said it was I didn't think he was a bad cornerback.
Speaker 1: I thought he was a solid cornerback that was reliable.
Speaker 1: This is just the epitome of rearview mirror stuff right here.
Speaker 1: That's all right, But all all we're saying is is
Speaker 1: that it was I mean, you can chalk it up
Speaker 1: as a bad decision. There's no way Jerry's about to
Speaker 1: sign this like okay, we're doing this, and then like
Speaker 1: you sure, like he's only gonna play like two games.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a really bad training camp. He's also
Speaker 1: going to get rested for d WI. Good decision, We're good,
Speaker 1: great decision because we gotta address the position. I see
Speaker 1: your point, but that's that's just your way of saying,
Speaker 1: let's move on, yo. Never the last two minutes he's
Speaker 1: argued just for the sake of arguing. He saw it
Speaker 1: back when you made the analogy. I still I see
Speaker 1: this is probably not a fruitful I think he's I
Speaker 1: think what you're saying is is okay, yeah, whatever, but
Speaker 1: move on like it's not gonna kill this team. I
Speaker 1: absolutely there's there's that and problem, of course, and I
Speaker 1: just I get your point and in like, I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: bad decision, but no history here. But I still know
Speaker 1: I still can't even go all the way there. I
Speaker 1: still can't. It's it's a it's a decision that had
Speaker 1: to be made that didn't work out. And I think
Speaker 1: that's different. That's the definition of a bed. I think
Speaker 1: I have a feeling though, that had the Cowboys signed
Speaker 1: Brandon car we would be talking about them not getting
Speaker 1: some other guy instead. I don't think so. I don't
Speaker 1: think Brandon Carr would be the problem right now, and
Speaker 1: that it wouldn't be the main problem because I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure people would not be happy with that decision either.
Speaker 1: We would still be talking about it right now right now.
Speaker 1: Can I say this? And I don't know about Nolan Carroll.
Speaker 1: In the meeting rooms, you said that we didn't really
Speaker 1: see a veteran, you know, we didn't see the veteran
Speaker 1: type of player that you were signing. I don't know
Speaker 1: about the meeting rooms and how he groomed those guys along.
Speaker 1: But I know Brandon Carr is a leader. He is,
Speaker 1: He's a veteran player like that, so you would get that.
Speaker 1: I can't speak for Nolan Carroll, but I know off
Speaker 1: the field he wasn't setting a good example. You know,
Speaker 1: he said all the right things after he was arrested,
Speaker 1: and he talked about a training camp and that, but
Speaker 1: still happened. And you know, I don't know if that
Speaker 1: was a major deal in this whole deal. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he'll ever be suspended or Yeah. I won't
Speaker 1: crucify him too much over that because I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm big on the idea that, you know, if sometimes
Speaker 1: mistakes happen and people do things and later they're like, man,
Speaker 1: that's not even in my character. I did it. It
Speaker 1: was a bad decision, and now I have to live
Speaker 1: with that and I deal with the consequences. So I'm
Speaker 1: not crucifying him so much for that. I'm more talking
Speaker 1: about what he did on the field. And on the field,
Speaker 1: I just didn't think he was that great. He wasn't,
Speaker 1: I got you know, I'll try to rephrase this. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to dig myself out of here, but I'll give
Speaker 1: you some time to dig yourself out. The nice thing
Speaker 1: about the way the Cowboys handle free agency the last
Speaker 1: few years is, Okay, maybe it's a it's a bad call.
Speaker 1: Clearly it's a bad call. The guy's not on the
Speaker 1: team anymore, But it doesn't matter. It's it's it was
Speaker 1: a very affordable, smart signing. They signed him so that
Speaker 1: they would have bodies if it didn't pan out for
Speaker 1: them in the draft. That's why you know they didn't.
Speaker 1: It's not like Namdi assmoa where you give him a
Speaker 1: fifty million dollar contract and then he puts up that
Speaker 1: performance or love him as much as I do giving
Speaker 1: Brandon car fifty million dollars and getting three career interceptions
Speaker 1: out of it or whatever he finished with during his
Speaker 1: time here, and that's you know, as much as people
Speaker 1: want to see them go big game hunting in free agency,
Speaker 1: that's a great benefit to doing it is that you're
Speaker 1: not making or breaking your roster with these decisions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I agree with And that's why I'm reluctant to
Speaker 1: kill them over this because it's like, all right, great,
Speaker 1: like you tried to find a bargain and didn't work out.
Speaker 1: You got some draft picks, You're fine. Yeah, And let's
Speaker 1: be honest. I'm not killing them over this. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that I think, in hindsight, I think it's played
Speaker 1: out in a way to where they at least have
Speaker 1: to acknowledge the fact that maybe, in looking at this player,
Speaker 1: maybe they should have kept and maybe it's not Brandon
Speaker 1: car Maybe they should have kept I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: they should have kept Mo Clayborn. I don't think so,
Speaker 1: but I think maybe they should have considered the fact
Speaker 1: that keeping some continuity would have been a better option
Speaker 1: than going out and getting a guy that you didn't
Speaker 1: really know as well, and then you get him in
Speaker 1: here and realize in two games he's not the right answer.
Speaker 1: Let's continue to pay him, but let's get him out
Speaker 1: of the building. Yeah, I hear you. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and take our first break when we come
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Speaker 1: of the show, we want to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about an article that Dave wrote yesterday. It's a really
Speaker 1: good article he talked about He laid out five different
Speaker 1: factors that will be affecting the Cowboys. After the bye,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go through some of those and talk about
Speaker 1: how much we think they will really will affect this
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Speaker 1: second segment of the show, Live from the s WBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage studios at the Star. All right, Nick, Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: good Um, let's jump in. Dave. You wrote a really
Speaker 1: really good article yesterday, thanks Derek Um, and it was
Speaker 1: detailing to the five factors affecting the Cowboys after the bye.
Speaker 1: And actually Nick, you mentioned to me in the break
Speaker 1: that you guys are actually playing. This a three part series.
Speaker 1: There will be a second part today that Rob will
Speaker 1: right talking about the five players who should be playing
Speaker 1: more getting more opportunities in the second part of the
Speaker 1: season after the bye, and then Nick on Friday, you're
Speaker 1: gonna finish it. I'm sorry, Thursday, You're gonna finish it
Speaker 1: off with a five pivotal plays from the first five
Speaker 1: games the season. The five pivotal plays, most pivotal plays
Speaker 1: if they matter, you know, if it even matters to
Speaker 1: look back. But I think you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: that Amber's cares very much. But hey, we'll we'll see
Speaker 1: if it turns out to be something that fans care about. Dave,
Speaker 1: but tell us about this article, and I guess let's
Speaker 1: let's dive in. I guess let's say that the first one,
Speaker 1: the first point that you made was the Zeke situation.
Speaker 1: Was what you called it? That would be the first factor.
Speaker 1: Tell me why that is so important to tell me
Speaker 1: kind of what fans should be expecting in the situation. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, as far as we understand it, by the
Speaker 1: time the Cowboys begin really preparing for their next opponent,
Speaker 1: we will have as much clarity as we can probably
Speaker 1: hope to have about what's going on with Zeke and
Speaker 1: his discipline. The US Fifth Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals
Speaker 1: is supposed to rule on the NFL's request for a
Speaker 1: stay of his injunction. So basically, Zeke has a temporary
Speaker 1: restraining order that has let him play this entire season.
Speaker 1: The NFL is arguing that that causes them irreparable harm.
Speaker 1: In other words, they can't take it back. Wait, what
Speaker 1: do you mean? In other words, the league is saying
Speaker 1: that there's harm being done right as I can't get back.
Speaker 1: They can't recoup this right, just making sure fans understand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're arguing that it hurts their brand and their image
Speaker 1: and their everything for him to be playing games. I
Speaker 1: know what you're doing after they suspended him. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to fight through here. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know who he's going after either. But you're just
Speaker 1: letting your wife know you do pay attention with other
Speaker 1: stuff at home set. We don't talk about legal stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't, okay unless Zeke is in court and Derek's
Speaker 1: like tell me everything. Um, sorry, we got more important. So, uh,
Speaker 1: it's a this this court, it's not one judge like
Speaker 1: it was up in Sherman, Texas a month ago. It's
Speaker 1: three judges there. They already heard arguments. Honestly, I expect
Speaker 1: a ruling any day. I mean, it's supposed to happen
Speaker 1: this week. Uh, they're either going to rule in favor
Speaker 1: of the NFL and Zeke will start serving his suspension.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's some sort of recourse he can
Speaker 1: follow that will allow him to try to get back
Speaker 1: on the field. But I mean he could conceivably not
Speaker 1: be able to play against San Francisco, or the court
Speaker 1: rules in Zeke's favor and he's able to play as
Speaker 1: long as this is going through the legal system, which
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to speak too concretely, but
Speaker 1: if they rule in his favorite, it's a good bet
Speaker 1: he'll be available for the rest of the year. So
Speaker 1: you're gonna find out this week whether you've probably got
Speaker 1: Zeke through December or whether he has to start serving
Speaker 1: his suspension. I mean that that ruling should come down,
Speaker 1: like I mean, it could happen right now, but always
Speaker 1: certain on the timetable. And I know we could happen
Speaker 1: right now. No, I assume it could happen two weeks
Speaker 1: from now right, all like the court when they heard arguments,
Speaker 1: the Court said that they would get a ruling asap.
Speaker 1: And I know, I know that's a relative term, but
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of talk to people and you
Speaker 1: you know the room. That's the sense, Yeah, the sense.
Speaker 1: The sense is that it's supposed to happen this week.
Speaker 1: And again, when you're talking about keeping a player off
Speaker 1: the field or putting him on the field, they probably
Speaker 1: want to have a ruling before, you know, he's starting
Speaker 1: to get ready for his next game, especially since the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are not playing this week. So I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's everything. And I even I wrote in the story,
Speaker 1: I know Zeke hasn't been great compared to what he
Speaker 1: was last year, but he's still got five hundred all
Speaker 1: purpose yards. He's still a big part of your offense.
Speaker 1: He's still a dramatic upgrade over Alfred Morrison Darren McFadden.
Speaker 1: So I mean that's going to dictate a lot about
Speaker 1: your team and what happens with him. What are your opinions,
Speaker 1: Amber and Nick? Let's assume for a second that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys do lose Zeke Elliott, which I don't really expect
Speaker 1: to happen. But let's assume that for a second. How
Speaker 1: big a deal would that be for the Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: mean it's huge. I feel like they haven't been as
Speaker 1: successful in the running game, and that's with Zeke being
Speaker 1: out there, so I can't even imagine how it would
Speaker 1: be with Alfred or Darren. He does have the longest
Speaker 1: run of the team so far. Yeah, that's right, but
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean very different. I'm sure they can
Speaker 1: still get the job done, but nowhere near to what
Speaker 1: Zeke can do or has done, so it will definitely
Speaker 1: affect them. Yeah, I mean, I mean they can't. I
Speaker 1: think he's the best player on the team. I still
Speaker 1: believe that, and he's the only player on them from
Speaker 1: the skill position that I think really scares people. So
Speaker 1: not having him out there, it's gonna it would be tough.
Speaker 1: But I think defenses would adjust and play things a
Speaker 1: little bit differently and might open some things up in
Speaker 1: other areas. But I think consistently they wouldn't move the
Speaker 1: ball as well. I mean, I think Morris and McFadden
Speaker 1: would would do some nice things, and I think the
Speaker 1: passing game would kind of get going, but they wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to grind out as many yards. That's actually
Speaker 1: an interesting point when you say it would open things
Speaker 1: up a little bit more, because I do wonder if
Speaker 1: well I wonder if it actually would open up the
Speaker 1: running game. Yeah, Zeke's not going back seventy five yards
Speaker 1: like like Alfred March did. Like he wouldn't have that
Speaker 1: same look, you know. So that and that that right
Speaker 1: there just gives you an example that you know, you
Speaker 1: could probably gash him a little bit more, but they
Speaker 1: would they would probably try to take away more passing games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and teams may think, hey, we'll give you three four
Speaker 1: yards on the ground here and there regularly, but we
Speaker 1: don't think you can move the ball consistently down the
Speaker 1: field on a long drive doing that, or be able
Speaker 1: to hit us. Because we're going to have more people
Speaker 1: back on the back end, you won't be able to
Speaker 1: this for a big play, and so that may actually
Speaker 1: stifle your offense, as weird as that may sound. All right, Davis,
Speaker 1: we want to point number two that you made. You
Speaker 1: said Sean Lee's hamstring was the second factor. Tell me
Speaker 1: about that well. As anybody who watches the Cowboys is
Speaker 1: probably aware, Sean Lee has been out for the last
Speaker 1: two weeks and it hasn't looked pretty out there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually, you know, I took a deeper look at
Speaker 1: the stats while I was writing that. You're even up
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen yards on the ground this year
Speaker 1: as a defense. That's not shocking to anybody that's watched him,
Speaker 1: but it's that's a thirty forty yard difference from what
Speaker 1: they were doing last year. And I noticeable difference statistically
Speaker 1: from when Shawn's in versus when he's not. Honestly, and
Speaker 1: I pointed that out too, you can't look at shan
Speaker 1: Lee as a cure all because he was right there
Speaker 1: and healthy in Denver and they were they got mauled.
Speaker 1: H C. J. Anderson looked like Walter Payton. But he
Speaker 1: is an All He's one of eight All Pros on
Speaker 1: your team. He's the only one that plays defense. He
Speaker 1: is far and away your best defender. He is capable
Speaker 1: of completely taking over a game from a defensive standpoint,
Speaker 1: like he did in New York last year. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a fifteen twenty twenty five tackle kind of guy.
Speaker 1: He's second on the team and tackles despite not having
Speaker 1: played the last two weeks. Yeah, so you know, no,
Speaker 1: he's not a cure all. He's not going to make
Speaker 1: this defense elite. But I do think he can help
Speaker 1: in the running game. I do think he helps people
Speaker 1: know where they're supposed to be. He's a tackle for
Speaker 1: lost machine. I mean he's He's stopped so many plays
Speaker 1: in the backfield that could have been three four or
Speaker 1: five six yard games. And he is yet to have
Speaker 1: a chance to play alongside Anthony Hitchins in a real
Speaker 1: game this year, which again, you know they're not They're
Speaker 1: not the Dome Patrol. They're not. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be elite. But for those of you who don't know
Speaker 1: who the Dome Patrol, I hope people know who the
Speaker 1: Dome Patrol. I don't. I won't take that for granted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the New Orleans Saints defense from this seven
Speaker 1: late seventies, eighties, eighties eighties. It was the only thing
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints had to be proud of until
Speaker 1: a man, right, which I mean they were proud of
Speaker 1: m proud of but not but he was. He never
Speaker 1: won anything for him, but they were proud of anyway
Speaker 1: that I mean, that is your preferred linebacker. Combo I
Speaker 1: do think that makes a big difference if they can
Speaker 1: both out be out there playing. You combine that with
Speaker 1: the other elements of your defense. Again, not trying to
Speaker 1: sell anybody on them magically becoming the Seahawks, But I
Speaker 1: think it makes a world of difference. And I think
Speaker 1: he's got this week off, he'll have next week to
Speaker 1: continue his rehab. By the time October twenty second rolls
Speaker 1: around and they're playing against the forty nine ers, it'll
Speaker 1: have been twenty seven, twenty eight days since he hurt
Speaker 1: the hamstrings. So I'm very optimistic that he'll be able
Speaker 1: to go, and I think that can at least help
Speaker 1: the defense take a step in the right direction. Knowing
Speaker 1: how tricky hamstrings are. And I'll throw this to Amber
Speaker 1: and Nick, knowing how tricky hamstrings are, and they don't
Speaker 1: always respond, you know, on a timetable that you think
Speaker 1: is appropriate. Let's assume for a second, the worst case
Speaker 1: scenario that he's not ready to play. How big of
Speaker 1: a deal is that for this defense? Again, knowing that
Speaker 1: they got Hitchens back and he is one of their
Speaker 1: better two linebackers, do you think that that's enough for
Speaker 1: them to be able to get back on track and
Speaker 1: be able to stop the run and be able to
Speaker 1: do the things they need to do defending the pass game. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that if he's not ready for this game,
Speaker 1: then you know, it's a There probably was some kind
Speaker 1: of setback then, I would imagine. I mean, he even
Speaker 1: said himself, this wasn't one of the worst ones he's
Speaker 1: ever had. They had two weeks. Now this will be
Speaker 1: it would be a four week hamstring injury. I have
Speaker 1: a hard time thinking he would, you know. And that's
Speaker 1: obviously it sucks that they lost to Green Bay, but
Speaker 1: over lining is put putting him down for that game
Speaker 1: gave gives him an extra week. And yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said on Sunday night that he very much
Speaker 1: expects him to be ready to go, and so I
Speaker 1: expected as well. All right, um, let's talk about let's
Speaker 1: talk about the next one offensive alignment. Oh, I'm sorry, Ambred,
Speaker 1: did you have something? She had to look like she
Speaker 1: was kind of like, I'm good. I mean, I I
Speaker 1: can talk about something, but I scare. Yeah, absolutely one.
Speaker 1: I don't know if three weeks will be enough or not.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out. Two if he comes back,
Speaker 1: I wonder how good he will be and what a
Speaker 1: difference he will make. It's definitely noticeable when he's not
Speaker 1: out there. But at the same time, based on what
Speaker 1: we've seen from him so far when he has been
Speaker 1: out on the field, it hasn't been his usual him,
Speaker 1: has he so? Huh? Right? I mean Denver game, he
Speaker 1: wasn't that good. And it's hard to judge based on
Speaker 1: that game because again everyone was horrible. But even then,
Speaker 1: I wonder at what level he's really at, and especially
Speaker 1: coming off an injury. So we'll see, there's no telling,
Speaker 1: you know, you'll see. The status just goes to show
Speaker 1: how much he's missed the Cowboys have They scored thirty
Speaker 1: points and had four hundred total yards in the last
Speaker 1: two games and lost him both. Only two other times
Speaker 1: in the NFL this year, has that happened, right, Somebody
Speaker 1: has has scored thirty had four hundred total yards lost.
Speaker 1: So there's four instances where that happened this year, and
Speaker 1: two of them belong to the Cowboys at home back
Speaker 1: to back. I mean, that's they're doing what they need
Speaker 1: to do on offense obviously, and this is not getting
Speaker 1: done defensively. And I think, you know, and it's not
Speaker 1: like they're they're getting blown out either. I mean, Sean
Speaker 1: Sean Lee is probably good enough for one or two
Speaker 1: third down stops to get off the field, especially when
Speaker 1: when there's a play drive or something like that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but is he gonna dramatically change? But see that's the point.
Speaker 1: I don't think you need. This isn't doesn't need a
Speaker 1: dramatic change. If they need one or two stops here,
Speaker 1: you know they win those two games. Now you're sitting
Speaker 1: at four and one and you're you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I said this either Monday or Tuesday. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying definitely, But I can imagine Sean Lee stopping
Speaker 1: that fourth down play the Green Bay, you know, the toss.
Speaker 1: I could see him sniffing that out and stopping it,
Speaker 1: and that changes the whole complexion of the second half.
Speaker 1: It's like I said, he won't make the defense elite,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't need to. This defense hasn't been elite
Speaker 1: the whole time I've covered the Cowboys, but they've put
Speaker 1: together some pretty good seasons by being average to above
Speaker 1: average and letting the offense carry the rest of the show. Right,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all you need from him is just
Speaker 1: to get them back to that average stand. Um, let's
Speaker 1: move out to the next one day. If you sat
Speaker 1: at the offensive lineman on offensive line on deck, what
Speaker 1: do you mean by that? Um? I mean that if
Speaker 1: you're gonna, if this offensive line is going to get better,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna you know, find the running game, so
Speaker 1: to speak, and continue to get better as an offense,
Speaker 1: I think. I mean everything starts with the offensive line,
Speaker 1: Everything starts up front, and you know, with a week off,
Speaker 1: I feel good that your whole offensive line will be
Speaker 1: available to be part of that because kind of some
Speaker 1: choppy water there these last two weeks. But first you
Speaker 1: have Chazz go out with his hip, and so you've
Speaker 1: got Jonathan Cooper coming in there, and then last week
Speaker 1: you got Tyron Smith and anytime he shows up on
Speaker 1: the injury report, it's troublesome in my opinion. But he
Speaker 1: got through that whole game. He didn't see him any
Speaker 1: worse for wear. He seemed fine after the game was over.
Speaker 1: And he's got another week to rest and kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, manage his back the way that he probably
Speaker 1: knows how now given that this has been a thing
Speaker 1: for him for two years, and I just think it's
Speaker 1: really important whether you know, because if Tyron Smith goes down,
Speaker 1: then you're probably asking Byron Bell or maybe Chaz Green
Speaker 1: to play left tackle, You're getting Cooper in there. It
Speaker 1: just shuffles. I think it shuffles the makeup of what
Speaker 1: you want your line to be. And if the line's
Speaker 1: going to be any better, I think that's a terrible idea.
Speaker 1: I think continuity and continued repetitions and work together is
Speaker 1: going to be the key for that. So Tyron seems
Speaker 1: like he's good to go. Chazz, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he even got into that game yesterday or Sunday. Excuse me.
Speaker 1: If he did, it wasn't a lot. So you feel
Speaker 1: good that he can get over this hip problem. So
Speaker 1: take your pick between him or Cooper one way or
Speaker 1: the other. But if the line's going to be if
Speaker 1: the line's gonna get better, they all need to be together,
Speaker 1: getting reps together, and I think this bye week will
Speaker 1: give them a chance to to get that way. Ambrow,
Speaker 1: assuming that that Chaz is completely healthy, do you think
Speaker 1: there's a difference between he or Jonathan Cooper? Is it
Speaker 1: just throw one of them out there doesn't matter. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be a difference whatsoever. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's my feeling going this bye week. Yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: help some of these guys to get back on track
Speaker 1: and health wise. But again, the injuries that especially let's
Speaker 1: say Chas Green or Tyrn Smith, those injuries are not
Speaker 1: a one time injury type of thing, you know, So
Speaker 1: it's something they're gonna keep dealing with throughout the course
Speaker 1: of time. So I don't expect anything being any different
Speaker 1: or much better than what we've already seen so far.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they can kind of regroup and rearrange some things,
Speaker 1: kinda get that dynamic and how do you call this
Speaker 1: when everyone's on the same track, like the same pace?
Speaker 1: Chemistry their chemistry. Dynamic was a good word. Oh there
Speaker 1: you go. Well, just hoping this time can serve more
Speaker 1: as a group overall to get back on track and
Speaker 1: everyone be on the same page pace, But health wise
Speaker 1: and productivity wise, I don't expect it to be much better.
Speaker 1: I hate to admit this, but I wonder if Chaz
Speaker 1: Green spooked the coaching staff with that thing with his hip.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? I mean they got
Speaker 1: him ready, he heard his hip, he missed practice on Friday.
Speaker 1: He was active for the game against the Rams, did
Speaker 1: not start practice fully all week leading up to the Packers.
Speaker 1: I mean, he he won the guard competition and then
Speaker 1: Cooper starts again against the Packers, and I just wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, you guys, you can't count on him, and
Speaker 1: he's he continues to prove that as much as I
Speaker 1: don't want to admit it. And so what you're what
Speaker 1: you're kind of asserting is that maybe he got maybe
Speaker 1: the coaches were like, we can't trust him, just like,
Speaker 1: all right, just go with Cooper felt let's go with
Speaker 1: the guy that'll be in there, you know. So if
Speaker 1: that's the case you expected that, I'm sorry, Nick, you
Speaker 1: expect that's going to be the case when he comes back,
Speaker 1: when they come back from the spot, I think Chaz
Speaker 1: is the better player, but you know, they ultimately make
Speaker 1: the decisions and things things like that register. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: what it could be too is the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith miss with some time last week, so did
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins. And the guy that would kind of back
Speaker 1: him up is Chas Green at the tackles, and he
Speaker 1: did take some reps to tackle, so that that might
Speaker 1: have been was like, you know, he didn't get as
Speaker 1: many guard reps last week because of those injuries, so
Speaker 1: he was kind of maybe the better swing tackle option,
Speaker 1: which and goes back to my point, their odds of
Speaker 1: being better increase if everybody can just focus on what
Speaker 1: they need to be doing and you don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about you know, is tiring going to have to
Speaker 1: come out of this game, Who's gonna be our swing tackle?
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. And I do for whatever
Speaker 1: it's worth, Amber. I mean, I don't know that they'll
Speaker 1: reach the levels they've reached him Pat prior seasons, but
Speaker 1: I running games and offensive lines get better as the
Speaker 1: season goes along, more practice, more reps, more familiarity. So
Speaker 1: there were two more points that you hit and in
Speaker 1: the effort, I mean, in order to make sure that
Speaker 1: we maximize our time, I'll just mention two of them,
Speaker 1: and one of them I really wanted to dive into
Speaker 1: a little bit more of the The fourth one was
Speaker 1: impact plays on defense. I think we all kind of
Speaker 1: know what you're saying there and what's the expectation there.
Speaker 1: But the final one, you were talking about the upcoming
Speaker 1: schedule and looking at the teams that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: to play here over the next I looked at the
Speaker 1: next four games. They are going to be at San Francisco,
Speaker 1: who's now owing five. Then they go at Washington who's
Speaker 1: two and two. They play Kansas City at homes five
Speaker 1: and oh, and then they have Atlanta who is three
Speaker 1: and one, that they'll go to Atlanta to play them.
Speaker 1: What do you, guys, if you're looking at those four
Speaker 1: teams and what you've seen so far from them, and
Speaker 1: what you've seen so far from the Cowboys, what do
Speaker 1: you expect as the number of wins that they can
Speaker 1: get over the next four games? You have no love
Speaker 1: for Philly or you just want to keep it at
Speaker 1: for well, I just wanted to say four because I
Speaker 1: kind of think I'd like to break the league into
Speaker 1: four games. You know that, Okay, But we can talk
Speaker 1: about Philly if you want to. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: didn't want to go too four. But what would you
Speaker 1: guys say if you're looking at those four games, what
Speaker 1: do you think is the likelihood? I mean, what do
Speaker 1: you think as far as the number of wins you
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys can realistically get over those four games?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why number one was number one, because
Speaker 1: it all it all changes if Zeke's not part of
Speaker 1: your your equation, though let's says he's on the is.
Speaker 1: You know, I think I think three and one is something.
Speaker 1: Is what it needs to be. I mean, it has
Speaker 1: to be. If it's not three and one, then you're
Speaker 1: really in trouble. But it's gonna be hard. I mean
Speaker 1: to do that, but I think they will go beat
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and I think they will beat Washington on
Speaker 1: the road for some reason, they play really well there
Speaker 1: and I think they will win that game. Um, and
Speaker 1: then they got to split those two two two games
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs and Falcons. I can't hear myself. So
Speaker 1: sorry at this point, I don't I don't even know anymore,
Speaker 1: just because again I've had my point of view since
Speaker 1: the beginning, and it hasn't turned out the way I
Speaker 1: thought it would be. And I think everyone can agree
Speaker 1: on that. It just hasn't turned out how we expected
Speaker 1: the season would turn out as But when you look
Speaker 1: at the game against the Rams, we expected them to win.
Speaker 1: Now I believe they lost because of themselves, But at
Speaker 1: the same time, it's a lot of these games I
Speaker 1: have expected it to go one way for most of
Speaker 1: the part, most of the time, and it hasn't. So
Speaker 1: when you talk about some of these teams, I feel
Speaker 1: confident that they could beat them. But at this point,
Speaker 1: I just don't know. I can't fully trust them or
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't believe i'd be leaving them, but
Speaker 1: I just can't completely bet on them all my money.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm splitting my money, you know, heager Dave.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't know that it needs
Speaker 1: to be three in one, that you want it to
Speaker 1: be three in one if you think this team is
Speaker 1: going to accomplish its goals. But I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you get into this part of the season, we're not
Speaker 1: quite halfway there, but you have a decent sample size,
Speaker 1: you sort of you start to readjust your your expectations
Speaker 1: or you know, you're you're you have informed opinions now
Speaker 1: and what two and two would put them at four
Speaker 1: and five through the halfway point of the year, which
Speaker 1: you know right now, anything's possible, I guess. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I said this yesterday. Does anybody, based on what you've
Speaker 1: seen so far, do you reasonably expect to see a
Speaker 1: winning streak of more than three games at any point
Speaker 1: this year based on the toughness of the schedule, what
Speaker 1: you've seen from this tech, that seems very unlikely. That
Speaker 1: seems very unlikely to me too. So two and two,
Speaker 1: four and five then sets you up for the second
Speaker 1: half of the season. And I mean, this sounds like
Speaker 1: a team that's it's going to be just like those
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett years where maybe you're eight and seven going
Speaker 1: into the last week of the year, maybe you're nine
Speaker 1: and six, nine and six at this point. That would
Speaker 1: be phenomenal. If you're nine and six heading into the
Speaker 1: season finale, so you know San Francisco Zo and five,
Speaker 1: you'd like to think they can go and get that win.
Speaker 1: They've lost four of their five games by a combined
Speaker 1: eleven points three two, three and three. I think, so
Speaker 1: that's not a tough that's not an easy out if
Speaker 1: if they're schedules to be believed, Um, what gives this
Speaker 1: team insane problems? Elite quarterback play well. Alex Smith has
Speaker 1: taken over the league right now, and Kirk Cousins I
Speaker 1: think is he's I know people like to bag on him,
Speaker 1: but he's been lights out for the better part of
Speaker 1: a year. Now and then Matt Ryan's the reigning NFL MVP.
Speaker 1: So and it's not just been elite quarterback play Trevis
Speaker 1: Trevis Simeon is not. That's a great point. It's been
Speaker 1: a good quarterback play and good receiver play. I think that, oh,
Speaker 1: don't forget don't forget good, don't forget good running games
Speaker 1: where you've got Kareem Hunt and then DeVante Freeman and
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman coming up. So um. But I do agree
Speaker 1: with Nick. I think it if if this is going
Speaker 1: to be a playoff team, they gotta go three and one,
Speaker 1: because if you're at four and five at that part
Speaker 1: of the season, then here's the problem. The problem is,
Speaker 1: let's tell me what what's happening with Philadelphia, tell me
Speaker 1: what's happening with Washington, tell me what's happening with Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: Because these are teams that, uh, that will be they
Speaker 1: you would be fighting with in order to either win
Speaker 1: the division or get one of those wildcard playoff spots.
Speaker 1: If those teams are playing well as well, that makes
Speaker 1: it very difficult to presume that at nine and seven
Speaker 1: you're gonna get in the playoffs. At the risk of
Speaker 1: eating Crow later. I don't see a I don't see
Speaker 1: a team running away with this thing the way that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did last year. You know, they were eleven
Speaker 1: and one at one. Although you wan't you the one
Speaker 1: to say it when you look at it, it might
Speaker 1: have been Nick yesterday. Say when you look at the
Speaker 1: Eagle schedule, they don't have a tough schedule like they've
Speaker 1: already had a They've gotten to four and one off
Speaker 1: the backs of playing teams that weren't that aren't the
Speaker 1: elite teams in the league, and it doesn't look like
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a whole lot of those teams left
Speaker 1: on their schedule. So don't get don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: I still you know, I'm basically what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say is I don't look at them as a thirteen
Speaker 1: and three, fourteen and two team. I'm you know, ten
Speaker 1: eleven wins is what I would expect at the trajectory
Speaker 1: that they're on. And you still have two games against them,
Speaker 1: so you have a huge say in what that record
Speaker 1: turns out being, which, by the way through the next
Speaker 1: they still won't have played the Eagles by the halfway
Speaker 1: point of the season. So you know, three and one
Speaker 1: would be phenomenal and probably needs to happen if you
Speaker 1: want to win the division. But I just see this
Speaker 1: team kind of treading water, Like I could see them
Speaker 1: sitting at four and five and then you know, you
Speaker 1: need to get hot at some point, and people will
Speaker 1: still be waiting for that to happen, obviously if they're
Speaker 1: four and five. But yeah, I just think it's going
Speaker 1: to be a dramatic finish. All right, let's take our
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Speaker 1: was about to start doing one of those reads, and
Speaker 1: I just they make you a little bit uncom I
Speaker 1: just didn't do it, and I was like, nah, I'm passing.
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy Football. All right, Amber got a game for
Speaker 1: us today. We're gonna play. Would you rather let's go?
Speaker 1: Let's go right? All right, let's start with you, Derek, Yes,
Speaker 1: all right? Would you rather have of plate making safety
Speaker 1: or someone else? I can play at corner playmaking safety.
Speaker 1: I believe in these corners. I think Jordan Lewis makes
Speaker 1: me believe in these corners. And I still haven't seen
Speaker 1: what Cheeto Bay can do. But just what I've seen
Speaker 1: from Jordan, what I've seen in limited opportunities in the
Speaker 1: slot from Xavier Woods, I feel good about the corners.
Speaker 1: I think safety is one of the biggest problems I
Speaker 1: got on this team. Do you guys agree? What if
Speaker 1: Cheetos you're playmaking safety, maybe I'd love to see I'd
Speaker 1: love to see anybody back there. And this is not
Speaker 1: a new idea. Nick is and trumpeting this for a while.
Speaker 1: Give me a center field, like, just give me a
Speaker 1: guy that can control the back end, that has the
Speaker 1: ability to get from sideline and sideline, that knows how
Speaker 1: to read a quarterback to be able to diagnose things early.
Speaker 1: And there was a guy the other night I was
Speaker 1: watching the Vikings play Harrison, Harrison and Zenday. They were
Speaker 1: both of them Zendea, but it was what's the guy's
Speaker 1: name is Zendejo or yeah, he was here. They were
Speaker 1: showing well, they were showing some some footage of him
Speaker 1: and showing kind of how he plays and how he
Speaker 1: diagnoses things and then makes a play on the ball.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's what the Cowboys needs,
Speaker 1: that guy that kind of sits back, because what they
Speaker 1: need is the guy that was here. Look, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying him particularly, I'm just saying that kind of safety.
Speaker 1: The guy that sits back there, reads a quarterback, can
Speaker 1: jump it because he knows what he's looking at, and
Speaker 1: then can go and make a play on the ball.
Speaker 1: That's what they don't have right now. I thought that
Speaker 1: might be Byron, but I don't think so. I thought
Speaker 1: so too, And I'm not saying he can't be that.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I haven't seen it yet. I meant to
Speaker 1: make this joke at the beginning of the show. Now
Speaker 1: that Nolan Carroll's gone, I mean, public enemy number one's
Speaker 1: off the team, so it was the next It's gotta
Speaker 1: be Jeff Heath and then probably Byron Jones after him. Probably,
Speaker 1: So sorry, guys, All right, Nick, would you rather move
Speaker 1: Lyell Collins back to guard or leave him a tackle
Speaker 1: a tackle? I'm not moving him to guard. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was that great at guard
Speaker 1: when when he was a rookie. I know he was
Speaker 1: a rookie, but I think tackles the spot, He's going
Speaker 1: to be fine there. Tackle Okay, Yeah, he's been it.
Speaker 1: I mean again, he's Yeah, there have been some growing pains,
Speaker 1: but I think overall solid and the only way for
Speaker 1: him to get better to stay there. I just think
Speaker 1: that's his body type. I think his body type is
Speaker 1: to play tackle. Okay, mister draft guy, would you rather
Speaker 1: have drafted another first round pick instead of tackle Charlton
Speaker 1: or You're good with that decision and still hopeful that
Speaker 1: he will keep developing into something great? Can it be both? Like?
Speaker 1: Do I? I mean, I have to choose. Actually, that's
Speaker 1: that's a great that's a great teaser amber because um,
Speaker 1: we've we tape an episode of the Draft Show yesterday
Speaker 1: where we spent probably twenty minutes on that Taco. There's
Speaker 1: no way to sugarcoat it. He hasn't been good. You know,
Speaker 1: you draft these guys for four or five years, though
Speaker 1: not four or five games. So it's way too early
Speaker 1: to close the book on what he can be. But
Speaker 1: I said this on the Draft Show you know yesterday,
Speaker 1: which will air tomorrow. It's kind of weird, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, it's hard for me to argue
Speaker 1: that t J. Watt might have been a better choice.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was taken two picks later. He has
Speaker 1: eighteen tackles, three sacks, two pass breakups, and an interception.
Speaker 1: He did a lot of the most that happened in
Speaker 1: Week one. He did a lot of that against the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. But he has eighteen tackles, which is an
Speaker 1: average three or four game. Taco has two, So he's
Speaker 1: giving no two. He's getting involved, which is more than
Speaker 1: Taco can say. However, and I'll say the same thing.
Speaker 1: You know, it's way too soon to close a book
Speaker 1: on him. It's way too soon to consider it a
Speaker 1: bad pick. What I would like is if the coaching
Speaker 1: staff would stop trying to just make they want him
Speaker 1: to be a right end so bad what just do
Speaker 1: anything to let him help, play him at left end,
Speaker 1: play him at tackle, and I mean, he's a versatile dude.
Speaker 1: We think that would be a significant difference in the result.
Speaker 1: Only one way to find out. He's sure as heck
Speaker 1: isn't contributing much trying to play right end right now.
Speaker 1: So it's no, it's it's not good right now. But
Speaker 1: it's too early for you're still hopeful. It's too early
Speaker 1: for me to completely pull the plug. Okay, Derek, would
Speaker 1: you'd rather have Bryce Butler as your number two wide
Speaker 1: receiver or just keep Terrence there and keep giving him opportunities.
Speaker 1: This is all just in name only, because the way
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do with their wide receiver, they're really you know,
Speaker 1: kind of they'd move them all around. But just in
Speaker 1: name only, I think I might be ready to say
Speaker 1: that that Bryce is the second guy. But as I
Speaker 1: said yesterday, the problem is that Bryce's is very similar
Speaker 1: to Terrence. From a stand point of the knock on
Speaker 1: both of them is there inconsistency. The knock on both
Speaker 1: of them is that at moments they will flash something
Speaker 1: really great and do something really outstanding, and then the
Speaker 1: next moment they just drop a ball that's important that
Speaker 1: they have a chance, they should be able to catch,
Speaker 1: and they drop it. You know, so, yes, you can.
Speaker 1: You can say that Bryce has had some big place
Speaker 1: for them on the last couple of games. So for
Speaker 1: this exact moment, yeah, he's probably playing better between the
Speaker 1: two of them, but that doesn't mean that that could
Speaker 1: flip next game and over the next two or three games.
Speaker 1: Terrence is the guy that makes some plays and Bryce
Speaker 1: has some moments that you're like, what are you doing? So, yes,
Speaker 1: for right now, I'll take Bryce's in my neck. Do
Speaker 1: you think that Bryce would be okay if they just
Speaker 1: kept it as is? You think he's gonna I don't
Speaker 1: think it really matters honestly, right, I mean, but we
Speaker 1: saw there were moments last game when Bryce was on
Speaker 1: the field and Terrence wasn't so right. Do you think, though,
Speaker 1: if they actually made that change though, and moved Terrence
Speaker 1: away from being a starting receiver. Do you think he'd
Speaker 1: handle it? Well, no, probably, that's my point. Let's just
Speaker 1: leave it. So, don't you don't want to make you mad?
Speaker 1: Is that it? He would go mad, that's not the word.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't be mad. He would be like despondent. He
Speaker 1: would go in the tank. Yeah, I just think for
Speaker 1: that reason alone. I'm sorry that I would just because because,
Speaker 1: like you said, doesn't really matter they both played. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's not the team would do that. Like the
Speaker 1: team doesn't say you are our number two guy, you're
Speaker 1: our number one guy. So it's not like they run
Speaker 1: out of the tunnel. Still no, Well but yes, I
Speaker 1: get your point. But I mean, if if they were
Speaker 1: to really promote Bryce into that, he would be on
Speaker 1: the field way more often. Right, it would be, boy,
Speaker 1: it would be. I don't think they would ever say
Speaker 1: he's our number two guy. It would just be he
Speaker 1: would get more playing time. Over the course, somebody runs
Speaker 1: through the fire, that's true. I think Terrence would parents
Speaker 1: would recognize what was happening if he was getting less placed.
Speaker 1: I'm the starting respect, I'm supposed to be on the
Speaker 1: field where it's eleven person. What's going on? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's that would he block his coach? Probably? Okay, Mack,
Speaker 1: would you rather keep Jalen Smith playing as much as
Speaker 1: you can? Or or or the OBUs other option or
Speaker 1: or what's let's just go ahead of No, it's not
Speaker 1: about you. It's just like there's got to be another
Speaker 1: option there. I mean, I've said it several times. I
Speaker 1: think he's just not ready. He's not ready to play.
Speaker 1: I wish he was, because it would be it would
Speaker 1: even be even better of a story than it is.
Speaker 1: And it's going to be a good story. I'm not
Speaker 1: when it's all setting down, it will be a great
Speaker 1: lost faith. I just it's it's unfortunate, and I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could have done a better job of giving
Speaker 1: of adding a little bit more depth to the linebacker
Speaker 1: position there to kind of help and make sure that
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. Um. You weren't a big fan of
Speaker 1: the Durant signing, were you? It doesn't sound like it
Speaker 1: I should say, Um No, I mean I was, Okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't expect him to do a whole lot.
Speaker 1: I was a fan of the Durant signing when I
Speaker 1: thought that he wouldn't have to do much because he
Speaker 1: would you're thinking of him as the fourth linebacker in
Speaker 1: an ideal scenario, or maybe even the fifth when you
Speaker 1: think about Damien Wilson. But it has kind of gotten
Speaker 1: lost in this I expected Damien Wilson to step up
Speaker 1: and be more a part of the mix this year.
Speaker 1: It just hasn't happened. He's he's the sam and whether
Speaker 1: I mean you would like, in my mind you would
Speaker 1: think he could play some will and not only you
Speaker 1: think he could play some some some nickel like that's
Speaker 1: where I expected he would get on the field more
Speaker 1: is a nickel, especially with with Sean Lee and with
Speaker 1: Hitchens out. But I don't happened. I don't disagree. I
Speaker 1: don't know this. Hey, going back to the year of
Speaker 1: other question, they could have drafted Ruben Foster. That I
Speaker 1: I that's hindsight. That's the epitome of hindsight, because you're
Speaker 1: basically pulling the plug on the Jalen Smith pick. Wasn't
Speaker 1: he injured as well? He had some mean an injury,
Speaker 1: he had some injury concerns, but like not nothing not
Speaker 1: on the Jalen Smith. What about no, no, no, yeah?
Speaker 1: But what about the UCLA guy Jack? Yeah, what's he doing?
Speaker 1: He's how he played for? Didn't he have six last week?
Speaker 1: He's he's played pretty well. He had like a fifty
Speaker 1: yard pick something like Jack. I don't know, oh if
Speaker 1: that I know, I know they had two pick sixes.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Miles stuff. I heard the radio
Speaker 1: one that it was the guy from Florida State, the
Speaker 1: Kelvin Telvin JOm damn it. Kelvin Smith Yeah, which sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: Kelvin Smith. Yeah, but he had like nine times? Who
Speaker 1: had the other pick six? Very sure? Church service baby? Anyway,
Speaker 1: Miles Jack is doing stuff though. Would you rather see
Speaker 1: the cowboys keep working with what they got right now?
Speaker 1: Or would you want them to work on some kind
Speaker 1: of trade to bring some outside help. What are they
Speaker 1: going to trade for that? I you know, people want
Speaker 1: around this time of year, people always want to do
Speaker 1: these trades. Andrean Peterson. We've seen, we've seen we we
Speaker 1: honestly have seen more player for player trades in you know,
Speaker 1: this year, in these recent years than most, like you know,
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette for Philip Dorset. But I don't know what
Speaker 1: are you giving up and what one piece are you
Speaker 1: getting that is really gonna dramatically push you over the top,
Speaker 1: and how much can I got to come in and
Speaker 1: contribute immediately? People forget like when you've missed all camp
Speaker 1: and all that and you're coming in in the middle
Speaker 1: of the season when the team already kind of has
Speaker 1: the things they like to do and they kind are
Speaker 1: getting to know each other from the chemistry standpoint of
Speaker 1: what they do on the field. Adding a different person
Speaker 1: to the mix, that's difficult. It's difficult for the person
Speaker 1: coming in. It's difficult for the rest of the group
Speaker 1: to be able to dust. And if there's you know,
Speaker 1: if there was a guard or something that you thought
Speaker 1: you could bring in at an affordable price, I'd at
Speaker 1: least listen to it. I'd think that's unrealistic. Now, something
Speaker 1: that kind of perked my ears up a little bit,
Speaker 1: not so much trying to add to this team, but
Speaker 1: trying to gain your own assets. Giants don't have any
Speaker 1: receivers and the Cowboys have some. Would you trade Noah Brown?
Speaker 1: Would I trade Noah Brown? No? Yeah, right, I knew
Speaker 1: you weren't going there, So who are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Would I trade Terrence Williams? Would I trade Bryce Butler?
Speaker 1: If they were desperate enough to give me something good
Speaker 1: for him, Like what, they don't have any offensive linement,
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna get that guard. Oh no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that. I'm thinking picks, picks if you have
Speaker 1: a linebacker. I don't know if you were willing to
Speaker 1: give me, if you were willing to give me a
Speaker 1: third round pick for Terence Williams. I'm not saying they would.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I didn't say that, Nicks, like what, I
Speaker 1: didn't say they would if you were willing to give
Speaker 1: me even up probably not see. And that's that's the
Speaker 1: not worth it for this year, And that's the that's
Speaker 1: the annoying, you know, like we gotta trade, we gotta trade.
Speaker 1: And it's like, Okay, sure I would give up a
Speaker 1: third round pick for Terrence or I would take a
Speaker 1: third round pick for Terrence Williams, but they're not gonna
Speaker 1: give you that. And for all of his shortcomings, Terrence
Speaker 1: Williams is more valuable to you than a fifth round
Speaker 1: pick now. And you gotta remember, like go to baseball
Speaker 1: and in the trade deadline, it's not the teams that
Speaker 1: are that have won thirty five games, it's the teams
Speaker 1: that are fighting for a spot that make trade. So
Speaker 1: oh and five, why would the Giants. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: signing Devin Street. That's who I'm going to sign and
Speaker 1: bring in. He's off somewhere in the mountains. Well, you
Speaker 1: know they can't get him. Yeah, I mean he's over here.
Speaker 1: Fish can get in touch with him. Yeah. Oh. I
Speaker 1: think if somebody wanted to pay you five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a year to come do something, I think you're accessible.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, just a suddenly your phone works, like,
Speaker 1: oh I got WiFi here, umta go? But yeah, and
Speaker 1: it takes it takes a perfect storm to create a
Speaker 1: trade like that. Like, the Saints have a running Alvin
Speaker 1: Kamara is killing it for them, so they have a
Speaker 1: running back surplus. Adrian Peterson doesn't fit the type of
Speaker 1: football they like to play anyway. The Cardinals are the
Speaker 1: worst running team in the league and their starters out
Speaker 1: and they have one of the best running backs, but
Speaker 1: he's hurt right right, So they just don't see time
Speaker 1: they need. You need all of those things to converge
Speaker 1: in order to create a trade like that. And I
Speaker 1: just I mean, I'm not going to rule it out entirely,
Speaker 1: but I'm it's always a safe bet that a trade
Speaker 1: is not going to happen. Not to get too far
Speaker 1: into Arizona Cardinals talk, but do you know when David
Speaker 1: Johnson's going to be back? I want to say it
Speaker 1: was like it was a while, like if he can
Speaker 1: come back December Tech Yeah, okay, so they need to
Speaker 1: be able to even be relevant by December. They're gonna
Speaker 1: get a head. They need to get somebody. Did you
Speaker 1: see the uh? Like somebody? I always love when people
Speaker 1: dig back in people's tweets, because like on Opening Night,
Speaker 1: when Adrian Peterson got mad at Sean Payton, Chris Johnson tweeted,
Speaker 1: AP needs more touches and then he got cut for
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson and tweeted, LMAO, laughing my ass off. It
Speaker 1: acts like, yeah, it is pretty good. The ironies too much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't help but laugh at that if you're funny,
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson, all right, and we appreciate the game was very,
Speaker 1: very good game. Would you rather do we have to
Speaker 1: bring that up on another time that there was one
Speaker 1: last question, but we don't. It's ten thirty one. Oh
Speaker 1: damn it, we got Actually we're in this is it
Speaker 1: for us for the week. Be Dave and Amber and
Speaker 1: Nick will be on tomorrow. We're gonna do a joint show. Bass,
Speaker 1: You're absolutely doing it. Though we're gonna have a joint
Speaker 1: show tomorrow with that doesn't make it, just do. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be Nick and Brian and Nate and Mickey on tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so that should be explosive and fun. Make sure you
Speaker 1: join those guys tomorrow for that, and then we'll all
Speaker 1: be back on Monday. We'll all be back on Monday
Speaker 1: and we'll have our normal shows at the normal times,
Speaker 1: so then we'll see you guys later. For Nick Eatman, Dave, Helmt,
Speaker 1: Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break
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