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Speaker 1: Wait Well with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia

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Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, October tenth, twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: Season thirteen, episode number fifty four. Welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: of The Break, Live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At

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Speaker 1: the start, we've got breaking, breaking, breaking news for you guys. Actually,

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Speaker 1: if you listened to The Break regularly, you actually probably

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Speaker 1: knew that this could be a possibility, or maybe it

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Speaker 1: was coming because we've been talking about this for the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days. But we've we've now started to

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Speaker 1: hear reports and suggestions at the Cowboys actually gonna make

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Speaker 1: a move on. Nolan Carroll, Dave, you've been on top

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Speaker 1: of the story since it started breaking. What do we hear? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not I mean, we got our own ways of

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Speaker 1: getting information around here. It's not just going off reports

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Speaker 1: and other people's knew that was confirmed. It good. We

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Speaker 1: have Well, he is not officially not a member of

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys anymore, but he will be. He is going

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Speaker 1: to be released. Um, biggest free agent signing of twenty seventeen. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's funny because, yeah, and I defended Nolan

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was as awful during training camp

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Speaker 1: don't think he had a great stint here Um he was,

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Speaker 1: he had a sizeable contract compared to basically everybody else

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Speaker 1: at the position, and he's been out for the better

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Speaker 1: part of a month and a rookie stepped up and

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Speaker 1: it's it's funny because I didn't go back and listen

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Speaker 1: I guess you kind of look at it and say, well,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't super good last time he played, and he's

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Speaker 1: playing pretty well, So let's just go ahead and move

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Speaker 1: across this bridge. Because that's what he was anyway, a

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Speaker 1: bridge player. So what do you think that means about Cheeto? Though?

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Speaker 1: I know, and I got your point yesterday that until

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Speaker 1: bad as I thought he'd play. So I lose a

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Speaker 1: So I saw this morning. I saw this morning that

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Speaker 1: the conclusion that it really doesn't matter, because even without Carol,

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Speaker 1: you still have five true cornerbacks. You got Scandrick, you

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Speaker 1: No one care and that's I never had a problem

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Speaker 1: That's the way this works is if you're gonna let

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Speaker 1: if the draft doesn't work out, or if your draft

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Speaker 1: because it's one thing for veteran to have a veteran

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Speaker 1: Because again, what I just said, you need to address

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Speaker 1: Brand cars making double what you're paying, not guarantee, not all,

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Speaker 1: it's all player incentives. He's right, exactly. So that's the point.

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Speaker 1: So if he plays well, you're happy to pay him

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Speaker 1: They didn't want Brandon car Okay, but that's part of

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Speaker 1: position at some point or another otherwise, absolutely right. But again,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a bad decision to go score. You have

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Speaker 1: and I don't, it's fault. It's very similar. You're right,

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Speaker 1: And actually Nick, you mentioned to me in the break

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Speaker 1: that you guys are actually playing. This a three part series.

427
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Speaker 1: There will be a second part today that Rob will

428
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Speaker 1: right talking about the five players who should be playing

429
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Speaker 1: more getting more opportunities in the second part of the

430
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Speaker 1: season after the bye, and then Nick on Friday, you're

431
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Speaker 1: gonna finish it. I'm sorry, Thursday, You're gonna finish it

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Speaker 1: off with a five pivotal plays from the first five

433
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Speaker 1: games the season. The five pivotal plays, most pivotal plays

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Speaker 1: if they matter, you know, if it even matters to

435
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Speaker 1: look back. But I think you know, I don't know

436
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Speaker 1: that Amber's cares very much. But hey, we'll we'll see

437
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Speaker 1: if it turns out to be something that fans care about. Dave,

438
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Speaker 1: but tell us about this article, and I guess let's

439
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Speaker 1: let's dive in. I guess let's say that the first one,

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Speaker 1: the first point that you made was the Zeke situation.

441
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Speaker 1: Was what you called it? That would be the first factor.

442
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 1: Tell me why that is so important to tell me

443
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Speaker 1: kind of what fans should be expecting in the situation. Well,

444
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, as far as we understand it, by the

445
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 1: time the Cowboys begin really preparing for their next opponent,

446
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: we will have as much clarity as we can probably

447
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Speaker 1: hope to have about what's going on with Zeke and

448
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: his discipline. The US Fifth Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals

449
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 1: is supposed to rule on the NFL's request for a

450
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Speaker 1: stay of his injunction. So basically, Zeke has a temporary

451
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Speaker 1: restraining order that has let him play this entire season.

452
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Speaker 1: The NFL is arguing that that causes them irreparable harm.

453
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Speaker 1: In other words, they can't take it back. Wait, what

454
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Speaker 1: do you mean? In other words, the league is saying

455
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Speaker 1: that there's harm being done right as I can't get back.

456
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: They can't recoup this right, just making sure fans understand. Yeah,

457
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Speaker 1: they're arguing that it hurts their brand and their image

458
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Speaker 1: and their everything for him to be playing games. I

459
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Speaker 1: know what you're doing after they suspended him. I don't.

460
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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to fight through here. I don't. I

461
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: don't know who he's going after either. But you're just

462
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: letting your wife know you do pay attention with other

463
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Speaker 1: stuff at home set. We don't talk about legal stuff.

464
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Speaker 1: I don't, okay unless Zeke is in court and Derek's

465
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Speaker 1: like tell me everything. Um, sorry, we got more important. So, uh,

466
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Speaker 1: it's a this this court, it's not one judge like

467
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Speaker 1: it was up in Sherman, Texas a month ago. It's

468
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Speaker 1: three judges there. They already heard arguments. Honestly, I expect

469
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Speaker 1: a ruling any day. I mean, it's supposed to happen

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Speaker 1: this week. Uh, they're either going to rule in favor

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Speaker 1: of the NFL and Zeke will start serving his suspension.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's some sort of recourse he can

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Speaker 1: follow that will allow him to try to get back

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Speaker 1: on the field. But I mean he could conceivably not

475
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Speaker 1: be able to play against San Francisco, or the court

476
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Speaker 1: rules in Zeke's favor and he's able to play as

477
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Speaker 1: long as this is going through the legal system, which

478
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to speak too concretely, but

479
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Speaker 1: if they rule in his favorite, it's a good bet

480
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Speaker 1: he'll be available for the rest of the year. So

481
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Speaker 1: you're gonna find out this week whether you've probably got

482
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Speaker 1: Zeke through December or whether he has to start serving

483
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Speaker 1: his suspension. I mean that that ruling should come down,

484
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Speaker 1: like I mean, it could happen right now, but always

485
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Speaker 1: certain on the timetable. And I know we could happen

486
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Speaker 1: right now. No, I assume it could happen two weeks

487
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Speaker 1: from now right, all like the court when they heard arguments,

488
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Speaker 1: the Court said that they would get a ruling asap.

489
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Speaker 1: And I know, I know that's a relative term, but

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Speaker 1: you know, you kind of talk to people and you

491
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Speaker 1: you know the room. That's the sense, Yeah, the sense.

492
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Speaker 1: The sense is that it's supposed to happen this week.

493
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Speaker 1: And again, when you're talking about keeping a player off

494
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Speaker 1: the field or putting him on the field, they probably

495
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Speaker 1: want to have a ruling before, you know, he's starting

496
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Speaker 1: to get ready for his next game, especially since the

497
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are not playing this week. So I mean, that's

498
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Speaker 1: that's everything. And I even I wrote in the story,

499
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Speaker 1: I know Zeke hasn't been great compared to what he

500
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Speaker 1: was last year, but he's still got five hundred all

501
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: purpose yards. He's still a big part of your offense.

502
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: He's still a dramatic upgrade over Alfred Morrison Darren McFadden.

503
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Speaker 1: So I mean that's going to dictate a lot about

504
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Speaker 1: your team and what happens with him. What are your opinions,

505
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Speaker 1: Amber and Nick? Let's assume for a second that the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys do lose Zeke Elliott, which I don't really expect

507
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Speaker 1: to happen. But let's assume that for a second. How

508
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Speaker 1: big a deal would that be for the Cowboys. I

509
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: mean it's huge. I feel like they haven't been as

510
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Speaker 1: successful in the running game, and that's with Zeke being

511
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Speaker 1: out there, so I can't even imagine how it would

512
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Speaker 1: be with Alfred or Darren. He does have the longest

513
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: run of the team so far. Yeah, that's right, but

514
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean very different. I'm sure they can

515
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Speaker 1: still get the job done, but nowhere near to what

516
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Speaker 1: Zeke can do or has done, so it will definitely

517
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Speaker 1: affect them. Yeah, I mean, I mean they can't. I

518
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Speaker 1: think he's the best player on the team. I still

519
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Speaker 1: believe that, and he's the only player on them from

520
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Speaker 1: the skill position that I think really scares people. So

521
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Speaker 1: not having him out there, it's gonna it would be tough.

522
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Speaker 1: But I think defenses would adjust and play things a

523
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Speaker 1: little bit differently and might open some things up in

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Speaker 1: other areas. But I think consistently they wouldn't move the

525
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Speaker 1: ball as well. I mean, I think Morris and McFadden

526
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Speaker 1: would would do some nice things, and I think the

527
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Speaker 1: passing game would kind of get going, but they wouldn't

528
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Speaker 1: be able to grind out as many yards. That's actually

529
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Speaker 1: an interesting point when you say it would open things

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Speaker 1: up a little bit more, because I do wonder if

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Speaker 1: well I wonder if it actually would open up the

532
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Speaker 1: running game. Yeah, Zeke's not going back seventy five yards

533
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Speaker 1: like like Alfred March did. Like he wouldn't have that

534
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Speaker 1: same look, you know. So that and that that right

535
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: there just gives you an example that you know, you

536
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: could probably gash him a little bit more, but they

537
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: would they would probably try to take away more passing games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and teams may think, hey, we'll give you three four

539
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: yards on the ground here and there regularly, but we

540
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Speaker 1: don't think you can move the ball consistently down the

541
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Speaker 1: field on a long drive doing that, or be able

542
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Speaker 1: to hit us. Because we're going to have more people

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Speaker 1: back on the back end, you won't be able to

544
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 1: this for a big play, and so that may actually

545
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: stifle your offense, as weird as that may sound. All right, Davis,

546
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Speaker 1: we want to point number two that you made. You

547
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: said Sean Lee's hamstring was the second factor. Tell me

548
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: about that well. As anybody who watches the Cowboys is

549
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: probably aware, Sean Lee has been out for the last

550
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Speaker 1: two weeks and it hasn't looked pretty out there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I actually, you know, I took a deeper look at

552
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Speaker 1: the stats while I was writing that. You're even up

553
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen yards on the ground this year

554
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: as a defense. That's not shocking to anybody that's watched him,

555
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: but it's that's a thirty forty yard difference from what

556
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: they were doing last year. And I noticeable difference statistically

557
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: from when Shawn's in versus when he's not. Honestly, and

558
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: I pointed that out too, you can't look at shan

559
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Speaker 1: Lee as a cure all because he was right there

560
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: and healthy in Denver and they were they got mauled.

561
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: H C. J. Anderson looked like Walter Payton. But he

562
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: is an All He's one of eight All Pros on

563
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: your team. He's the only one that plays defense. He

564
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: is far and away your best defender. He is capable

565
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: of completely taking over a game from a defensive standpoint,

566
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: like he did in New York last year. I mean,

567
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: he's a fifteen twenty twenty five tackle kind of guy.

568
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: He's second on the team and tackles despite not having

569
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: played the last two weeks. Yeah, so you know, no,

570
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: he's not a cure all. He's not going to make

571
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: this defense elite. But I do think he can help

572
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: in the running game. I do think he helps people

573
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Speaker 1: know where they're supposed to be. He's a tackle for

574
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: lost machine. I mean he's He's stopped so many plays

575
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: in the backfield that could have been three four or

576
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: five six yard games. And he is yet to have

577
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: a chance to play alongside Anthony Hitchins in a real

578
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: game this year, which again, you know they're not They're

579
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: not the Dome Patrol. They're not. It's not going to

580
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: be elite. But for those of you who don't know

581
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: who the Dome Patrol, I hope people know who the

582
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: Dome Patrol. I don't. I won't take that for granted. Yeah,

583
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: that's that's the New Orleans Saints defense from this seven

584
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: late seventies, eighties, eighties eighties. It was the only thing

585
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints had to be proud of until

586
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: a man, right, which I mean they were proud of

587
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: m proud of but not but he was. He never

588
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: won anything for him, but they were proud of anyway

589
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: that I mean, that is your preferred linebacker. Combo I

590
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: do think that makes a big difference if they can

591
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: both out be out there playing. You combine that with

592
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: the other elements of your defense. Again, not trying to

593
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: sell anybody on them magically becoming the Seahawks, But I

594
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: think it makes a world of difference. And I think

595
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: he's got this week off, he'll have next week to

596
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: continue his rehab. By the time October twenty second rolls

597
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: around and they're playing against the forty nine ers, it'll

598
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: have been twenty seven, twenty eight days since he hurt

599
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: the hamstrings. So I'm very optimistic that he'll be able

600
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: to go, and I think that can at least help

601
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: the defense take a step in the right direction. Knowing

602
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: how tricky hamstrings are. And I'll throw this to Amber

603
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: and Nick, knowing how tricky hamstrings are, and they don't

604
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: always respond, you know, on a timetable that you think

605
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: is appropriate. Let's assume for a second, the worst case

606
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: scenario that he's not ready to play. How big of

607
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: a deal is that for this defense? Again, knowing that

608
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: they got Hitchens back and he is one of their

609
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: better two linebackers, do you think that that's enough for

610
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: them to be able to get back on track and

611
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: be able to stop the run and be able to

612
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: do the things they need to do defending the pass game. Well, yeah,

613
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: I think that if he's not ready for this game,

614
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: then you know, it's a There probably was some kind

615
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: of setback then, I would imagine. I mean, he even

616
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: said himself, this wasn't one of the worst ones he's

617
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: ever had. They had two weeks. Now this will be

618
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: it would be a four week hamstring injury. I have

619
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Speaker 1: a hard time thinking he would, you know. And that's

620
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: obviously it sucks that they lost to Green Bay, but

621
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: over lining is put putting him down for that game

622
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: gave gives him an extra week. And yeah, I mean,

623
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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said on Sunday night that he very much

624
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: expects him to be ready to go, and so I

625
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: expected as well. All right, um, let's talk about let's

626
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: talk about the next one offensive alignment. Oh, I'm sorry, Ambred,

627
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: did you have something? She had to look like she

628
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: was kind of like, I'm good. I mean, I I

629
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: can talk about something, but I scare. Yeah, absolutely one.

630
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if three weeks will be enough or not.

631
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out. Two if he comes back,

632
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: I wonder how good he will be and what a

633
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: difference he will make. It's definitely noticeable when he's not

634
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: out there. But at the same time, based on what

635
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: we've seen from him so far when he has been

636
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: out on the field, it hasn't been his usual him,

637
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: has he so? Huh? Right? I mean Denver game, he

638
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: wasn't that good. And it's hard to judge based on

639
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: that game because again everyone was horrible. But even then,

640
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: I wonder at what level he's really at, and especially

641
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: coming off an injury. So we'll see, there's no telling,

642
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, you'll see. The status just goes to show

643
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: how much he's missed the Cowboys have They scored thirty

644
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: points and had four hundred total yards in the last

645
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: two games and lost him both. Only two other times

646
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL this year, has that happened, right, Somebody

647
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: has has scored thirty had four hundred total yards lost.

648
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: So there's four instances where that happened this year, and

649
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: two of them belong to the Cowboys at home back

650
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: to back. I mean, that's they're doing what they need

651
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: to do on offense obviously, and this is not getting

652
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: done defensively. And I think, you know, and it's not

653
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: like they're they're getting blown out either. I mean, Sean

654
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: Sean Lee is probably good enough for one or two

655
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: third down stops to get off the field, especially when

656
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: when there's a play drive or something like that. So yeah,

657
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: but is he gonna dramatically change? But see that's the point.

658
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you need. This isn't doesn't need a

659
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: dramatic change. If they need one or two stops here,

660
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: you know they win those two games. Now you're sitting

661
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: at four and one and you're you know, I mean,

662
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: I think I said this either Monday or Tuesday. I'm

663
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: not saying definitely, But I can imagine Sean Lee stopping

664
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: that fourth down play the Green Bay, you know, the toss.

665
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: I could see him sniffing that out and stopping it,

666
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: and that changes the whole complexion of the second half.

667
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: It's like I said, he won't make the defense elite,

668
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: and he doesn't need to. This defense hasn't been elite

669
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: the whole time I've covered the Cowboys, but they've put

670
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: together some pretty good seasons by being average to above

671
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: average and letting the offense carry the rest of the show. Right,

672
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all you need from him is just

673
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: to get them back to that average stand. Um, let's

674
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: move out to the next one day. If you sat

675
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: at the offensive lineman on offensive line on deck, what

676
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: do you mean by that? Um? I mean that if

677
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna, if this offensive line is going to get better,

678
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: and you're gonna you know, find the running game, so

679
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: to speak, and continue to get better as an offense,

680
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: I think. I mean everything starts with the offensive line,

681
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: Everything starts up front, and you know, with a week off,

682
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: I feel good that your whole offensive line will be

683
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: available to be part of that because kind of some

684
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: choppy water there these last two weeks. But first you

685
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: have Chazz go out with his hip, and so you've

686
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: got Jonathan Cooper coming in there, and then last week

687
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: you got Tyron Smith and anytime he shows up on

688
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: the injury report, it's troublesome in my opinion. But he

689
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: got through that whole game. He didn't see him any

690
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: worse for wear. He seemed fine after the game was over.

691
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: And he's got another week to rest and kind of,

692
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, manage his back the way that he probably

693
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: knows how now given that this has been a thing

694
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: for him for two years, and I just think it's

695
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: really important whether you know, because if Tyron Smith goes down,

696
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: then you're probably asking Byron Bell or maybe Chaz Green

697
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: to play left tackle, You're getting Cooper in there. It

698
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: just shuffles. I think it shuffles the makeup of what

699
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: you want your line to be. And if the line's

700
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: going to be any better, I think that's a terrible idea.

701
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: I think continuity and continued repetitions and work together is

702
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: going to be the key for that. So Tyron seems

703
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: like he's good to go. Chazz, I don't know if

704
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: he even got into that game yesterday or Sunday. Excuse me.

705
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: If he did, it wasn't a lot. So you feel

706
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: good that he can get over this hip problem. So

707
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: take your pick between him or Cooper one way or

708
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: the other. But if the line's going to be if

709
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: the line's gonna get better, they all need to be together,

710
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: getting reps together, and I think this bye week will

711
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: give them a chance to to get that way. Ambrow,

712
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: assuming that that Chaz is completely healthy, do you think

713
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: there's a difference between he or Jonathan Cooper? Is it

714
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: just throw one of them out there doesn't matter. I

715
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be a difference whatsoever. I mean,

716
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: that's my feeling going this bye week. Yeah, it's gonna

717
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: help some of these guys to get back on track

718
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: and health wise. But again, the injuries that especially let's

719
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: say Chas Green or Tyrn Smith, those injuries are not

720
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: a one time injury type of thing, you know, So

721
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 1: it's something they're gonna keep dealing with throughout the course

722
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: of time. So I don't expect anything being any different

723
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: or much better than what we've already seen so far.

724
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: Hopefully they can kind of regroup and rearrange some things,

725
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: kinda get that dynamic and how do you call this

726
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: when everyone's on the same track, like the same pace?

727
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: Chemistry their chemistry. Dynamic was a good word. Oh there

728
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: you go. Well, just hoping this time can serve more

729
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: as a group overall to get back on track and

730
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: everyone be on the same page pace, But health wise

731
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: and productivity wise, I don't expect it to be much better.

732
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: I hate to admit this, but I wonder if Chaz

733
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: Green spooked the coaching staff with that thing with his hip.

734
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? I mean they got

735
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: him ready, he heard his hip, he missed practice on Friday.

736
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: He was active for the game against the Rams, did

737
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: not start practice fully all week leading up to the Packers.

738
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he he won the guard competition and then

739
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: Cooper starts again against the Packers, and I just wonder,

740
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: you know, you guys, you can't count on him, and

741
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: he's he continues to prove that as much as I

742
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: don't want to admit it. And so what you're what

743
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: you're kind of asserting is that maybe he got maybe

744
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: the coaches were like, we can't trust him, just like,

745
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: all right, just go with Cooper felt let's go with

746
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: the guy that'll be in there, you know. So if

747
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: that's the case you expected that, I'm sorry, Nick, you

748
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: expect that's going to be the case when he comes back,

749
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: when they come back from the spot, I think Chaz

750
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: is the better player, but you know, they ultimately make

751
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: the decisions and things things like that register. Yeah, but

752
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: what it could be too is the fact that you know,

753
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith miss with some time last week, so did

754
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins. And the guy that would kind of back

755
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: him up is Chas Green at the tackles, and he

756
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: did take some reps to tackle, so that that might

757
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: have been was like, you know, he didn't get as

758
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: many guard reps last week because of those injuries, so

759
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: he was kind of maybe the better swing tackle option,

760
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: which and goes back to my point, their odds of

761
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: being better increase if everybody can just focus on what

762
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: they need to be doing and you don't have to

763
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: worry about you know, is tiring going to have to

764
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: come out of this game, Who's gonna be our swing tackle?

765
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. And I do for whatever

766
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: it's worth, Amber. I mean, I don't know that they'll

767
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: reach the levels they've reached him Pat prior seasons, but

768
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: I running games and offensive lines get better as the

769
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: season goes along, more practice, more reps, more familiarity. So

770
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: there were two more points that you hit and in

771
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: the effort, I mean, in order to make sure that

772
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: we maximize our time, I'll just mention two of them,

773
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: and one of them I really wanted to dive into

774
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more of the The fourth one was

775
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: impact plays on defense. I think we all kind of

776
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: know what you're saying there and what's the expectation there.

777
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: But the final one, you were talking about the upcoming

778
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: schedule and looking at the teams that the Cowboys have

779
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: to play here over the next I looked at the

780
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: next four games. They are going to be at San Francisco,

781
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: who's now owing five. Then they go at Washington who's

782
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: two and two. They play Kansas City at homes five

783
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: and oh, and then they have Atlanta who is three

784
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: and one, that they'll go to Atlanta to play them.

785
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: What do you, guys, if you're looking at those four

786
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: teams and what you've seen so far from them, and

787
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: what you've seen so far from the Cowboys, what do

788
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: you expect as the number of wins that they can

789
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: get over the next four games? You have no love

790
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: for Philly or you just want to keep it at

791
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: for well, I just wanted to say four because I

792
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: kind of think I'd like to break the league into

793
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: four games. You know that, Okay, But we can talk

794
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: about Philly if you want to. I mean, I just

795
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: didn't want to go too four. But what would you

796
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: guys say if you're looking at those four games, what

797
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: do you think is the likelihood? I mean, what do

798
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: you think as far as the number of wins you

799
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys can realistically get over those four games?

800
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why number one was number one, because

801
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: it all it all changes if Zeke's not part of

802
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: your your equation, though let's says he's on the is.

803
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 1: You know, I think I think three and one is something.

804
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: Is what it needs to be. I mean, it has

805
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: to be. If it's not three and one, then you're

806
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: really in trouble. But it's gonna be hard. I mean

807
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: to do that, but I think they will go beat

808
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and I think they will beat Washington on

809
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: the road for some reason, they play really well there

810
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: and I think they will win that game. Um, and

811
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 1: then they got to split those two two two games

812
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs and Falcons. I can't hear myself. So

813
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: sorry at this point, I don't I don't even know anymore,

814
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: just because again I've had my point of view since

815
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: the beginning, and it hasn't turned out the way I

816
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: thought it would be. And I think everyone can agree

817
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: on that. It just hasn't turned out how we expected

818
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: the season would turn out as But when you look

819
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: at the game against the Rams, we expected them to win.

820
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: Now I believe they lost because of themselves, But at

821
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: the same time, it's a lot of these games I

822
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: have expected it to go one way for most of

823
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: the part, most of the time, and it hasn't. So

824
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: when you talk about some of these teams, I feel

825
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: confident that they could beat them. But at this point,

826
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: I just don't know. I can't fully trust them or

827
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't believe i'd be leaving them, but

828
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: I just can't completely bet on them all my money.

829
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: That's why I'm splitting my money, you know, heager Dave.

830
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't know that it needs

831
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: to be three in one, that you want it to

832
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: be three in one if you think this team is

833
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: going to accomplish its goals. But I mean, you know,

834
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: you get into this part of the season, we're not

835
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: quite halfway there, but you have a decent sample size,

836
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: you sort of you start to readjust your your expectations

837
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: or you know, you're you're you have informed opinions now

838
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: and what two and two would put them at four

839
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: and five through the halfway point of the year, which

840
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: you know right now, anything's possible, I guess. But I mean,

841
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: I said this yesterday. Does anybody, based on what you've

842
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: seen so far, do you reasonably expect to see a

843
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: winning streak of more than three games at any point

844
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: this year based on the toughness of the schedule, what

845
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: you've seen from this tech, that seems very unlikely. That

846
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: seems very unlikely to me too. So two and two,

847
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: four and five then sets you up for the second

848
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: half of the season. And I mean, this sounds like

849
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: a team that's it's going to be just like those

850
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett years where maybe you're eight and seven going

851
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: into the last week of the year, maybe you're nine

852
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: and six, nine and six at this point. That would

853
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: be phenomenal. If you're nine and six heading into the

854
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Speaker 1: season finale, so you know San Francisco Zo and five,

855
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: you'd like to think they can go and get that win.

856
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: They've lost four of their five games by a combined

857
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: eleven points three two, three and three. I think, so

858
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: that's not a tough that's not an easy out if

859
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: if they're schedules to be believed, Um, what gives this

860
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: team insane problems? Elite quarterback play well. Alex Smith has

861
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: taken over the league right now, and Kirk Cousins I

862
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: think is he's I know people like to bag on him,

863
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: but he's been lights out for the better part of

864
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Speaker 1: a year. Now and then Matt Ryan's the reigning NFL MVP.

865
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Speaker 1: So and it's not just been elite quarterback play Trevis

866
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: Trevis Simeon is not. That's a great point. It's been

867
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: a good quarterback play and good receiver play. I think that, oh,

868
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: don't forget don't forget good, don't forget good running games

869
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: where you've got Kareem Hunt and then DeVante Freeman and

870
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman coming up. So um. But I do agree

871
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: with Nick. I think it if if this is going

872
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: to be a playoff team, they gotta go three and one,

873
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: because if you're at four and five at that part

874
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: of the season, then here's the problem. The problem is,

875
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: let's tell me what what's happening with Philadelphia, tell me

876
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: what's happening with Washington, tell me what's happening with Saint Louis.

877
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: Because these are teams that, uh, that will be they

878
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: you would be fighting with in order to either win

879
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: the division or get one of those wildcard playoff spots.

880
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: If those teams are playing well as well, that makes

881
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: it very difficult to presume that at nine and seven

882
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna get in the playoffs. At the risk of

883
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: eating Crow later. I don't see a I don't see

884
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: a team running away with this thing the way that

885
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did last year. You know, they were eleven

886
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: and one at one. Although you wan't you the one

887
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: to say it when you look at it, it might

888
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Speaker 1: have been Nick yesterday. Say when you look at the

889
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: Eagle schedule, they don't have a tough schedule like they've

890
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: already had a They've gotten to four and one off

891
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Speaker 1: the backs of playing teams that weren't that aren't the

892
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: elite teams in the league, and it doesn't look like

893
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a whole lot of those teams left

894
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: on their schedule. So don't get don't get me wrong.

895
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: I still you know, I'm basically what I'm trying to

896
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Speaker 1: say is I don't look at them as a thirteen

897
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Speaker 1: and three, fourteen and two team. I'm you know, ten

898
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: eleven wins is what I would expect at the trajectory

899
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: that they're on. And you still have two games against them,

900
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: so you have a huge say in what that record

901
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Speaker 1: turns out being, which, by the way through the next

902
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: they still won't have played the Eagles by the halfway

903
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: point of the season. So you know, three and one

904
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: would be phenomenal and probably needs to happen if you

905
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Speaker 1: want to win the division. But I just see this

906
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: team kind of treading water, Like I could see them

907
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Speaker 1: sitting at four and five and then you know, you

908
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: need to get hot at some point, and people will

909
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Speaker 1: still be waiting for that to happen, obviously if they're

910
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: four and five. But yeah, I just think it's going

911
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,000
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Speaker 1: at the Star and Nick, it's your turn, which you

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Speaker 1: Anderson led a tour past the studio, like while I

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Speaker 1: was about to start doing one of those reads, and

964
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Speaker 1: I just they make you a little bit uncom I

965
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Speaker 1: just didn't do it, and I was like, nah, I'm passing.

966
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Speaker 1: They'll they'll have to wait another day to hear this

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968
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy Football. All right, Amber got a game for

971
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: us today. We're gonna play. Would you rather let's go?

972
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: Let's go right? All right, let's start with you, Derek, Yes,

973
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: all right? Would you rather have of plate making safety

974
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: or someone else? I can play at corner playmaking safety.

975
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: I believe in these corners. I think Jordan Lewis makes

976
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: me believe in these corners. And I still haven't seen

977
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: what Cheeto Bay can do. But just what I've seen

978
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: from Jordan, what I've seen in limited opportunities in the

979
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: slot from Xavier Woods, I feel good about the corners.

980
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: I think safety is one of the biggest problems I

981
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: got on this team. Do you guys agree? What if

982
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 1: Cheetos you're playmaking safety, maybe I'd love to see I'd

983
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: love to see anybody back there. And this is not

984
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: a new idea. Nick is and trumpeting this for a while.

985
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: Give me a center field, like, just give me a

986
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: guy that can control the back end, that has the

987
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: ability to get from sideline and sideline, that knows how

988
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: to read a quarterback to be able to diagnose things early.

989
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: And there was a guy the other night I was

990
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: watching the Vikings play Harrison, Harrison and Zenday. They were

991
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: both of them Zendea, but it was what's the guy's

992
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: name is Zendejo or yeah, he was here. They were

993
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: showing well, they were showing some some footage of him

994
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: and showing kind of how he plays and how he

995
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: diagnoses things and then makes a play on the ball.

996
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's what the Cowboys needs,

997
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: that guy that kind of sits back, because what they

998
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: need is the guy that was here. Look, I'm not

999
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: saying him particularly, I'm just saying that kind of safety.

1000
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: The guy that sits back there, reads a quarterback, can

1001
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: jump it because he knows what he's looking at, and

1002
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: then can go and make a play on the ball.

1003
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: That's what they don't have right now. I thought that

1004
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: might be Byron, but I don't think so. I thought

1005
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: so too, And I'm not saying he can't be that.

1006
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying I haven't seen it yet. I meant to

1007
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: make this joke at the beginning of the show. Now

1008
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: that Nolan Carroll's gone, I mean, public enemy number one's

1009
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: off the team, so it was the next It's gotta

1010
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: be Jeff Heath and then probably Byron Jones after him. Probably,

1011
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: So sorry, guys, All right, Nick, would you rather move

1012
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: Lyell Collins back to guard or leave him a tackle

1013
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: a tackle? I'm not moving him to guard. I don't know.

1014
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was that great at guard

1015
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: when when he was a rookie. I know he was

1016
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: a rookie, but I think tackles the spot, He's going

1017
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: to be fine there. Tackle Okay, Yeah, he's been it.

1018
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 1: I mean again, he's Yeah, there have been some growing pains,

1019
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: but I think overall solid and the only way for

1020
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: him to get better to stay there. I just think

1021
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: that's his body type. I think his body type is

1022
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: to play tackle. Okay, mister draft guy, would you rather

1023
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: have drafted another first round pick instead of tackle Charlton

1024
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: or You're good with that decision and still hopeful that

1025
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: he will keep developing into something great? Can it be both? Like?

1026
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: Do I? I mean, I have to choose. Actually, that's

1027
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: that's a great that's a great teaser amber because um,

1028
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: we've we tape an episode of the Draft Show yesterday

1029
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: where we spent probably twenty minutes on that Taco. There's

1030
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: no way to sugarcoat it. He hasn't been good. You know,

1031
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: you draft these guys for four or five years, though

1032
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: not four or five games. So it's way too early

1033
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: to close the book on what he can be. But

1034
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: I said this on the Draft Show you know yesterday,

1035
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: which will air tomorrow. It's kind of weird, but yeah,

1036
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, it's hard for me to argue

1037
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: that t J. Watt might have been a better choice.

1038
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he was taken two picks later. He has

1039
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: eighteen tackles, three sacks, two pass breakups, and an interception.

1040
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: He did a lot of the most that happened in

1041
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: Week one. He did a lot of that against the

1042
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. But he has eighteen tackles, which is an

1043
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: average three or four game. Taco has two, So he's

1044
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: giving no two. He's getting involved, which is more than

1045
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: Taco can say. However, and I'll say the same thing.

1046
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: You know, it's way too soon to close a book

1047
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: on him. It's way too soon to consider it a

1048
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: bad pick. What I would like is if the coaching

1049
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: staff would stop trying to just make they want him

1050
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: to be a right end so bad what just do

1051
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: anything to let him help, play him at left end,

1052
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: play him at tackle, and I mean, he's a versatile dude.

1053
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: We think that would be a significant difference in the result.

1054
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: Only one way to find out. He's sure as heck

1055
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: isn't contributing much trying to play right end right now.

1056
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: So it's no, it's it's not good right now. But

1057
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 1: it's too early for you're still hopeful. It's too early

1058
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: for me to completely pull the plug. Okay, Derek, would

1059
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: you'd rather have Bryce Butler as your number two wide

1060
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: receiver or just keep Terrence there and keep giving him opportunities.

1061
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: This is all just in name only, because the way

1062
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do with their wide receiver, they're really you know,

1063
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: kind of they'd move them all around. But just in

1064
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: name only, I think I might be ready to say

1065
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: that that Bryce is the second guy. But as I

1066
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: said yesterday, the problem is that Bryce's is very similar

1067
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: to Terrence. From a stand point of the knock on

1068
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: both of them is there inconsistency. The knock on both

1069
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: of them is that at moments they will flash something

1070
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: really great and do something really outstanding, and then the

1071
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: next moment they just drop a ball that's important that

1072
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: they have a chance, they should be able to catch,

1073
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: and they drop it. You know, so, yes, you can.

1074
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: You can say that Bryce has had some big place

1075
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: for them on the last couple of games. So for

1076
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: this exact moment, yeah, he's probably playing better between the

1077
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: two of them, but that doesn't mean that that could

1078
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: flip next game and over the next two or three games.

1079
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: Terrence is the guy that makes some plays and Bryce

1080
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: has some moments that you're like, what are you doing? So, yes,

1081
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: for right now, I'll take Bryce's in my neck. Do

1082
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: you think that Bryce would be okay if they just

1083
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: kept it as is? You think he's gonna I don't

1084
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: think it really matters honestly, right, I mean, but we

1085
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: saw there were moments last game when Bryce was on

1086
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: the field and Terrence wasn't so right. Do you think, though,

1087
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: if they actually made that change though, and moved Terrence

1088
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: away from being a starting receiver. Do you think he'd

1089
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: handle it? Well, no, probably, that's my point. Let's just

1090
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: leave it. So, don't you don't want to make you mad?

1091
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,959
Speaker 1: Is that it? He would go mad, that's not the word.

1092
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: He wouldn't be mad. He would be like despondent. He

1093
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: would go in the tank. Yeah, I just think for

1094
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: that reason alone. I'm sorry that I would just because because,

1095
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: like you said, doesn't really matter they both played. Yeah,

1096
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: well it's not the team would do that. Like the

1097
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: team doesn't say you are our number two guy, you're

1098
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: our number one guy. So it's not like they run

1099
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: out of the tunnel. Still no, Well but yes, I

1100
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: get your point. But I mean, if if they were

1101
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: to really promote Bryce into that, he would be on

1102
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: the field way more often. Right, it would be, boy,

1103
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: it would be. I don't think they would ever say

1104
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: he's our number two guy. It would just be he

1105
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: would get more playing time. Over the course, somebody runs

1106
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: through the fire, that's true. I think Terrence would parents

1107
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: would recognize what was happening if he was getting less placed.

1108
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm the starting respect, I'm supposed to be on the

1109
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: field where it's eleven person. What's going on? Yeah? Yeah,

1110
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: what's that would he block his coach? Probably? Okay, Mack,

1111
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: would you rather keep Jalen Smith playing as much as

1112
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: you can? Or or or the OBUs other option or

1113
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: or what's let's just go ahead of No, it's not

1114
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: about you. It's just like there's got to be another

1115
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: option there. I mean, I've said it several times. I

1116
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: think he's just not ready. He's not ready to play.

1117
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: I wish he was, because it would be it would

1118
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: even be even better of a story than it is.

1119
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: And it's going to be a good story. I'm not

1120
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: when it's all setting down, it will be a great

1121
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: lost faith. I just it's it's unfortunate, and I think

1122
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could have done a better job of giving

1123
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: of adding a little bit more depth to the linebacker

1124
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: position there to kind of help and make sure that

1125
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. Um. You weren't a big fan of

1126
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: the Durant signing, were you? It doesn't sound like it

1127
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: I should say, Um No, I mean I was, Okay,

1128
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't expect him to do a whole lot.

1129
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: I was a fan of the Durant signing when I

1130
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: thought that he wouldn't have to do much because he

1131
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: would you're thinking of him as the fourth linebacker in

1132
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: an ideal scenario, or maybe even the fifth when you

1133
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: think about Damien Wilson. But it has kind of gotten

1134
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: lost in this I expected Damien Wilson to step up

1135
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: and be more a part of the mix this year.

1136
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: It just hasn't happened. He's he's the sam and whether

1137
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 1: I mean you would like, in my mind you would

1138
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: think he could play some will and not only you

1139
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: think he could play some some some nickel like that's

1140
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: where I expected he would get on the field more

1141
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: is a nickel, especially with with Sean Lee and with

1142
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: Hitchens out. But I don't happened. I don't disagree. I

1143
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: don't know this. Hey, going back to the year of

1144
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: other question, they could have drafted Ruben Foster. That I

1145
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: I that's hindsight. That's the epitome of hindsight, because you're

1146
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: basically pulling the plug on the Jalen Smith pick. Wasn't

1147
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: he injured as well? He had some mean an injury,

1148
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: he had some injury concerns, but like not nothing not

1149
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: on the Jalen Smith. What about no, no, no, yeah?

1150
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: But what about the UCLA guy Jack? Yeah, what's he doing?

1151
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: He's how he played for? Didn't he have six last week?

1152
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: He's he's played pretty well. He had like a fifty

1153
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: yard pick something like Jack. I don't know, oh if

1154
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: that I know, I know they had two pick sixes.

1155
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if Miles stuff. I heard the radio

1156
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: one that it was the guy from Florida State, the

1157
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: Kelvin Telvin JOm damn it. Kelvin Smith Yeah, which sorry, yeah,

1158
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: Kelvin Smith. Yeah, but he had like nine times? Who

1159
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: had the other pick six? Very sure? Church service baby? Anyway,

1160
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: Miles Jack is doing stuff though. Would you rather see

1161
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: the cowboys keep working with what they got right now?

1162
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: Or would you want them to work on some kind

1163
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: of trade to bring some outside help. What are they

1164
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: going to trade for that? I you know, people want

1165
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: around this time of year, people always want to do

1166
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: these trades. Andrean Peterson. We've seen, we've seen we we

1167
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: honestly have seen more player for player trades in you know,

1168
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: this year, in these recent years than most, like you know,

1169
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette for Philip Dorset. But I don't know what

1170
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: are you giving up and what one piece are you

1171
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: getting that is really gonna dramatically push you over the top,

1172
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: and how much can I got to come in and

1173
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: contribute immediately? People forget like when you've missed all camp

1174
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: and all that and you're coming in in the middle

1175
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: of the season when the team already kind of has

1176
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: the things they like to do and they kind are

1177
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: getting to know each other from the chemistry standpoint of

1178
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: what they do on the field. Adding a different person

1179
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: to the mix, that's difficult. It's difficult for the person

1180
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: coming in. It's difficult for the rest of the group

1181
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: to be able to dust. And if there's you know,

1182
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: if there was a guard or something that you thought

1183
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: you could bring in at an affordable price, I'd at

1184
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: least listen to it. I'd think that's unrealistic. Now, something

1185
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: that kind of perked my ears up a little bit,

1186
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: not so much trying to add to this team, but

1187
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: trying to gain your own assets. Giants don't have any

1188
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: receivers and the Cowboys have some. Would you trade Noah Brown?

1189
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: Would I trade Noah Brown? No? Yeah, right, I knew

1190
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: you weren't going there, So who are you talking about?

1191
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: Would I trade Terrence Williams? Would I trade Bryce Butler?

1192
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: If they were desperate enough to give me something good

1193
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: for him, Like what, they don't have any offensive linement,

1194
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna get that guard. Oh no, no,

1195
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that. I'm thinking picks, picks if you have

1196
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: a linebacker. I don't know if you were willing to

1197
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: give me, if you were willing to give me a

1198
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: third round pick for Terence Williams. I'm not saying they would.

1199
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm not. I didn't say that, Nicks, like what, I

1200
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: didn't say they would if you were willing to give

1201
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: me even up probably not see. And that's that's the

1202
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: not worth it for this year, And that's the that's

1203
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: the annoying, you know, like we gotta trade, we gotta trade.

1204
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: And it's like, Okay, sure I would give up a

1205
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: third round pick for Terrence or I would take a

1206
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 1: third round pick for Terrence Williams, but they're not gonna

1207
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: give you that. And for all of his shortcomings, Terrence

1208
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: Williams is more valuable to you than a fifth round

1209
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: pick now. And you gotta remember, like go to baseball

1210
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: and in the trade deadline, it's not the teams that

1211
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: are that have won thirty five games, it's the teams

1212
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: that are fighting for a spot that make trade. So

1213
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: oh and five, why would the Giants. I mean, I'm

1214
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: signing Devin Street. That's who I'm going to sign and

1215
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: bring in. He's off somewhere in the mountains. Well, you

1216
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: know they can't get him. Yeah, I mean he's over here.

1217
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: Fish can get in touch with him. Yeah. Oh. I

1218
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: think if somebody wanted to pay you five hundred thousand

1219
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: dollars a year to come do something, I think you're accessible.

1220
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, just a suddenly your phone works, like,

1221
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: oh I got WiFi here, umta go? But yeah, and

1222
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: it takes it takes a perfect storm to create a

1223
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: trade like that. Like, the Saints have a running Alvin

1224
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: Kamara is killing it for them, so they have a

1225
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: running back surplus. Adrian Peterson doesn't fit the type of

1226
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: football they like to play anyway. The Cardinals are the

1227
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: worst running team in the league and their starters out

1228
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: and they have one of the best running backs, but

1229
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: he's hurt right right, So they just don't see time

1230
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: they need. You need all of those things to converge

1231
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: in order to create a trade like that. And I

1232
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: just I mean, I'm not going to rule it out entirely,

1233
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 1: but I'm it's always a safe bet that a trade

1234
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: is not going to happen. Not to get too far

1235
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: into Arizona Cardinals talk, but do you know when David

1236
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: Johnson's going to be back? I want to say it

1237
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: was like it was a while, like if he can

1238
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: come back December Tech Yeah, okay, so they need to

1239
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: be able to even be relevant by December. They're gonna

1240
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: get a head. They need to get somebody. Did you

1241
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: see the uh? Like somebody? I always love when people

1242
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: dig back in people's tweets, because like on Opening Night,

1243
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: when Adrian Peterson got mad at Sean Payton, Chris Johnson tweeted,

1244
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: AP needs more touches and then he got cut for

1245
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson and tweeted, LMAO, laughing my ass off. It

1246
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: acts like, yeah, it is pretty good. The ironies too much. Yeah,

1247
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: you can't help but laugh at that if you're funny,

1248
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson, all right, and we appreciate the game was very,

1249
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: very good game. Would you rather do we have to

1250
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: bring that up on another time that there was one

1251
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: last question, but we don't. It's ten thirty one. Oh

1252
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: damn it, we got Actually we're in this is it

1253
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: for us for the week. Be Dave and Amber and

1254
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: Nick will be on tomorrow. We're gonna do a joint show. Bass,

1255
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: You're absolutely doing it. Though we're gonna have a joint

1256
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: show tomorrow with that doesn't make it, just do. It's

1257
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna be Nick and Brian and Nate and Mickey on tomorrow,

1258
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: so that should be explosive and fun. Make sure you

1259
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: join those guys tomorrow for that, and then we'll all

1260
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: be back on Monday. We'll all be back on Monday

1261
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: and we'll have our normal shows at the normal times,

1262
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,479
Speaker 1: so then we'll see you guys later. For Nick Eatman, Dave, Helmt,

1263
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break

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01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:12,160
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