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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that takes you

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Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium, home of the Houston Texans and the

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Speaker 1: Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo. Happy Rodeo season, everyone. Mark

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Speaker 1: Vandermer with you tonight for Texans All Access. Yes we

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Speaker 1: are across the hall from the locker room. And yes,

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Speaker 1: players still work out in this building during the rodeo.

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Speaker 1: John Harris with me tonight. And the sights, the sounds,

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Speaker 1: the smells of the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo here

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Speaker 1: in the building, Johnny, are you pumped? Yeah? Can you

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Speaker 1: smell the Rodeo's cooking, well, cooking, and you know there's

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Speaker 1: other things going on. It's look, it's a great roma.

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Speaker 1: Is odor sometimes but whatever, it's all good. You know

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Speaker 1: what it is. Every smell it's the rodeo, and it

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Speaker 1: means the rodeo's here. It's so good for the economy.

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Speaker 1: It's great for the kids, the scholarships, it's great for Houston.

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Speaker 1: It is a wonderful thing. It's the It's one of

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Speaker 1: the first things I tell people about that makes Houston unique.

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Speaker 1: This amazing three weeks here in this building, all the

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Speaker 1: great shows, and I look, I love the rodeo itself.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I like watching all

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Speaker 1: the events. Sometimes I root for the animals. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know I do. I like I like my daughter.

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Speaker 1: Look if I'm not one of those people, Look if

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Speaker 1: a calf makes a great move to get away from

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking that's a good move. That was a good cut.

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Speaker 1: You know, got away, didn't get roped. My daughter is

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Speaker 1: the same. I took her to the rodeo last year.

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Speaker 1: We were up in the presence suite because you know,

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Speaker 1: all the plays, he had an opportunity to go, and

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Speaker 1: so it was Casey Musgrave's night, and so she wanted

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Speaker 1: to go, and so we went. I saw that one.

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Speaker 1: It was fantastic, And as the rodeo started, she looked

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Speaker 1: at me, She's like, oh no, And I said, well, look,

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Speaker 1: just let's enjoy it. It's fun. Get hurt, animals not

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Speaker 1: gonna get hurt. They love the animals, et cetera. But

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Speaker 1: every time, every time that a calf would get away

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Speaker 1: and calf roping, she would stand up and start cheering.

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Speaker 1: And she's very emmotive. She's very emmotive. So she was,

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Speaker 1: you know, cheering very loudly for things so you know,

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Speaker 1: I I connect rodeo time with free agency, Like we

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Speaker 1: start the rodeo where to combine, and at the end

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Speaker 1: in the middle, and then that moves on to Okay,

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Speaker 1: when the rodeo is about to leave, that means that

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Speaker 1: we're about to get the schedule. So that's how I

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Speaker 1: kind of associate the rodeo back to the Texans in

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Speaker 1: the NFL little chuck of the off season. Are you ready,

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Speaker 1: Johnny as in the first segment for a change tonight,

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Speaker 1: because tonight we also have Mike Keith. We're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: from him, voice of the Tennessee Titans, what's going on

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Speaker 1: in Nashville and with heavy hearts and concern we paid

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Speaker 1: tribute to those suffering and struggling as a result of

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Speaker 1: the tornadoes there. And also Frank Frangie, the voice of

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. We're gonna hear from him as well tonight.

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Speaker 1: It's a little AFC South flavor coming up in the show.

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Speaker 1: But Johnny, let's start here with more likely to happen? Yes,

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Speaker 1: do it likely to happen? All right? First, one more

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Speaker 1: likely to happen in the second round, a great, potentially

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Speaker 1: great pass rusher is available for the Texans. Maybe great's

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Speaker 1: too strong a word, but pass rushing prospect yep, or

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Speaker 1: a good cornerback prospect more likely to be there with

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Speaker 1: a Texans pick who's going to be able to contribute faster,

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Speaker 1: sooner better. I like this cornerback class more than I

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Speaker 1: like the edge rushing class. Okay, so I think that

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Speaker 1: they'll have an opportunity. I think for the Texans defense,

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Speaker 1: and I do think there's some four three defensive ends

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Speaker 1: The Texans are very multiple in the way they do things,

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Speaker 1: so nothing is out of the realm of possibility. But

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Speaker 1: I just think body types and what they've brought in

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Speaker 1: the past. I don't know that I love the edge

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Speaker 1: rushers in this class. There are a few that I like,

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Speaker 1: and they would have to convert being four three guys

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Speaker 1: and then being three four outside linebackers. Got like Daryl

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Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't work out, was not able to practice,

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Speaker 1: you work out the combinedy wasn't able to practice the

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Speaker 1: love a bunch of the other edge rushing pass rushing threats,

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Speaker 1: and I think after Jeffrey Okuda, it becomes there's Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: but as an athlete. There's potential. But I think those

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Speaker 1: but I still think there will be more opportunities for

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Speaker 1: one more likely to happen, more likely to be adopted

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Speaker 1: by the NFL, which XFL rule play clock twenty five

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Speaker 1: I like both of them? I like both of them.

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Speaker 1: I like the I think they call it the comeback

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Speaker 1: rules under two minutes, where the twenty five second clock

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Speaker 1: I like that. That's team the opportunity to get back

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Speaker 1: but I like that back. I think the kickoff rule

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Speaker 1: I think the forty second play clock is a little

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Speaker 1: But the play clock, they change a play clock? Would

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Speaker 1: are you by a twenty five second play clock? I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a monumental change. If you do it, I

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Speaker 1: about playing fast? Now? You gotta get that next play

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks to call some things, right, all right? I

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Speaker 1: many false starts? Look, we got false starts now in

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Speaker 1: I mean, what is what has Bill told us over

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Speaker 1: But that's a different story. But twenty five seconds is

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Speaker 1: now it's forty, you can take it all the way

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Speaker 1: down to fifteen. You'd have to go to ten. Give

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Speaker 1: another off season for that. Yeah, next one more likely

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Speaker 1: I think they'll pay less for Rivers, And because Rivers

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Speaker 1: makes sense to pay less for rivers. But on top

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Speaker 1: bretty better what I want Brady leading my team, probably right,

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Speaker 1: But that's one reason, as opposed to about four or

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to throw him in there, but I just

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Speaker 1: don't see it. But the more the more I read

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Speaker 1: of people that are closer to the situation, the more

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Speaker 1: I think he's not coming back to New England. But

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Speaker 1: I have said all along and I'm gonna stay with this.

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Speaker 1: I think he goes back to New England. I think

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Speaker 1: he goes back to New England because a lot of

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Speaker 1: end up going back to the white right exactly. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna order off the New England menu. He's gonna look

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Speaker 1: at all these other menus and go like the barbecue shamp,

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Speaker 1: like the charcot oysters. But you know what, the clam

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Speaker 1: Childer back in Boston. That's the best I'm going with that.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's where he's gonna end up. Now

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Speaker 1: We talked to John Murphy, you know about that that situation,

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Speaker 1: said no, no no, no, he's leaving Carlo with a map.

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Speaker 1: I think it's crazy as it sounds, but you think

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Speaker 1: I made you've you've hit the thing because offensively we

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Speaker 1: were doing good things and even though I'm no coach,

427
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Speaker 1: you could see on the tape guys are open, things

428
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: are happening, and Mariota just went't playing well. That's what

429
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: it comes down to. He was just not playing well.

430
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Speaker 1: And when they made the swap, Tannehill played great. And

431
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: the number one thing he did is he got rid

432
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Speaker 1: of the ball. Yeah, you know, the ball's coming out.

433
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Speaker 1: So you would think that Tannehill comes back, but the

434
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Speaker 1: Titans have several decisions at this moment which all sort

435
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Speaker 1: of impact everything. And we also have this massive quarterback

436
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 1: merry go round that's out there. The Texans are one

437
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: of only about five teams not involved in it somehow

438
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Speaker 1: for once. Ye right, yeah, our guys right there on

439
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: the poster. That's exactly right. You guys are good. You

440
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: would think Tannehill's back, But here's what we don't know.

441
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: What does he want? Right? What are the Titans want

442
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: to pay? What are the what do they say internally

443
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: when they grade the tape, which none of us. I mean,

444
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: did you guys know this in your role with the Texans.

445
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: We never know, We never truly know how deep it

446
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: all goes. In that way. The other decision that we've

447
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Speaker 1: got to make is about the running back, of course,

448
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: and so you've got dollar decisions that you have to

449
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: make there. We're also at an interesting moment where John

450
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: Robinson is entering his fifth year. So all the players

451
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: he first drafted, the first set of free agents that

452
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: he signed, all those people are upright now. Wow, So

453
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Speaker 1: he's having to do the kind of what Kansas City

454
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: had to do last offseason. Is this is the first reshuffle.

455
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the Titans have at four street winning seasons,

456
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: so they've got a nice base everything. This is not

457
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: a redo, but there's gonna be some things that have

458
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Speaker 1: to happen, and the quarterback will be directly. If it

459
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Speaker 1: were just a quarterback decision, it would be one thing,

460
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: but this is a decision about a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that the quarterback impacts. So to that end, as it

462
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Speaker 1: pertains that Derrick Henry at running back, because there are

463
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Speaker 1: a lot of people that would say and nobody would

464
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Speaker 1: tell you the quarterback is less important than running back.

465
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: But in Tennessee's case, you maybe could say that Derrick

466
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Speaker 1: Henry was the reason that they did things in the playoffs.

467
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Speaker 1: Now to rhyme make some key throws, Sure, it's how

468
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Speaker 1: complicated does that make it? That you've got this running

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Speaker 1: back who became maybe the face of the offense, but

470
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Speaker 1: the NFL doesn't pay running backs? How complicated? Complicated? Because

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Speaker 1: I can give you four different scenarios on what you

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Speaker 1: do with the running back? Right, do you sign him,

473
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Speaker 1: do you franchise him, do you draft one? Do you mean?

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Speaker 1: I don't know? And you're obviously if you signed him,

475
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Speaker 1: you're allotting a great deal more money to a running

476
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Speaker 1: back position than I mean, I think he made like

477
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Speaker 1: five five his first four years in the league. So

478
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're saying, we're gonna take a

479
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Speaker 1: chunk of money that we aren't used to spending at

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Speaker 1: that spot, which means that chunk of money is coming

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Speaker 1: out of somewhere else. Always is. So those are the

482
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Speaker 1: decisions that they have to make. But Henry is so different,

483
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: He's such a different player. Dave McGinnis, who does color

484
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Speaker 1: commentary on our broadcast, made the point, and I keep

485
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Speaker 1: repeating his point because I think it's so dead on.

486
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Speaker 1: The college game is not producing Derek Henry running backs anymore.

487
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Speaker 1: They're just not. I mean when the end right or

488
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Speaker 1: outside linebacker exactly when Mark and I started, you know,

489
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Speaker 1: you've got the Jamal Lewis is coming out and all

490
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Speaker 1: these the Tyrone Wheatley's and all and the bus and

491
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Speaker 1: you got all these big backs college. Every hey coming

492
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: out of college now is five ten, two h five. Yeah.

493
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Speaker 1: So when you have a back like this, especially considering

494
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Speaker 1: that a lot of the linebackers in the league or

495
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty pounds, what do you do with it?

496
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: He's a suddenly he's a matchup problem in an unanticipated way.

497
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Speaker 1: And when coach Mack said that, I thought, you know,

498
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Speaker 1: that's a great point. You've got something that really is different.

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Speaker 1: But can you afford to a lot the dollars? The

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Speaker 1: other question is can you afford not to a lot

501
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Speaker 1: the dollar? And that's and that's the hard part is

502
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Speaker 1: how do you value that unique ability? And that, to me,

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Speaker 1: I think it is probably the hardest part of all Right,

504
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Speaker 1: I'm taking another way to John, how long do you

505
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Speaker 1: think it lasts? Exactly? I mean he's a running back,

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Speaker 1: right right, There is a half life here and so

507
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: big and takes does take some hits, takes hits. He

508
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: delivers hits, but he takes hits. But do you think,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you think you can get three more

510
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Speaker 1: good years or four more good years, then it's certainly worked.

511
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: But these are the decisions. I'm glad the GM has

512
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Speaker 1: to make an eye don't because I mean it's a crapshoot.

513
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: I don't think you should resign them. And I think

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00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: you just signed John here as a running back for

515
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Speaker 1: the I need them on the sideline and all these shows.

516
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: So Mike Keith joining his voice of the Tennessee Titans,

517
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: the division the cults see. To me, the Titans had

518
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: the year they had, but the cults are still out there.

519
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: Oh you're laying in the weeds. Quarterback situation. What do

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Speaker 1: you think here if they address that in a certain way,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, like Rivers or or whoever? I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've thought all along. My wife is from

523
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Speaker 1: up this way, so I've got family up this way,

524
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: and everybody up here thinks it's Rivers. Okay, because Frank

525
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: Reich and the history, yeah, and and uh, Cyriani and

526
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: the whole tie in with all of that. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's what that's what the talk is here. And to

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Speaker 1: me it makes tons of sense because if I'm him,

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Speaker 1: that offensive line, the running they have, the tight end,

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Speaker 1: they have nice receivers, they're better on defense than what

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Speaker 1: they get credit for being. You come in here. I mean,

532
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Speaker 1: it's it's not like you. It's not like you don't

533
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: have to do anything as the quarterback. But if you

534
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: run it well in terms of running the offense well,

535
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: you can win a championship here. They they are a

536
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Speaker 1: championship caliber team in a lot of parts if they

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Speaker 1: have everything together. They didn't have a great year last year,

538
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: but they certainly are a good football team and no doubt.

539
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: And that's the and that's the hard part about the

540
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: NFL is you very rarely are you a bad team.

541
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Speaker 1: Maybe you have a bad year or you don't have

542
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: as good a year as what you want. But that's

543
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: a nice ball that's a good coach, that's a good

544
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good they have good coordinators, good

545
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: home field advantage. I mean, that's a good ball club.

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Speaker 1: Last year, you guys, every time that y'all drafted a player,

547
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Speaker 1: I would look at Mark and I just would kind

548
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: of give him that face like gotta can't believe. Like

549
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: every guy they drafted, I loved Jeffrey Simmons. You know

550
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: he wasn gonna play right away, but I just knew.

551
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he was number three on my Harrison one

552
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: hundred and you get him at nineteen. AJ Brown in

553
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Speaker 1: the second round. I remember looking at a Mark on

554
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: Things have changed with a J Brown, even a Monny Hooker. Yeah.

555
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: I know a lot of decisions we talked about will

556
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Speaker 1: impact what they do in the draft, But is there

557
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Speaker 1: anything in particular where you feel like the Titans will

558
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Speaker 1: address in the draft and what they're looking at the

559
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: combine this week? You know, corner is a spot that

560
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: I think everybody's going to be interested in. And the

561
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: great news for teams like the Titans at corner is

562
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: it's a great corner draft, is a great corner draft.

563
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: The running back thing is interesting, right because it's a

564
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: good running especially a good day to running back draft

565
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: where you would save a lot of bucks if you

566
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Speaker 1: choose to go there. Amazingly too, it's a great wide

567
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: receiver draft for the first time in like a hundred years,

568
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: we don't desperately need now you don't, well, I mean

569
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: we could use another one, um, but you're good at

570
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: that position. We're okay. Uh, you know we've got good player.

571
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: AJ's good player, and Corey Davis done a nice job

572
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: for us. And Adam Humphries uh to be able to

573
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: get him back. He was playing nice football for us

574
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Speaker 1: before he got hurt. So you know that's a that's

575
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: a good spot. I think it. John, to answer your question,

576
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: what the strengths of the draft are matchup very well

577
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Speaker 1: for John Robinson if he doesn't want to spend free

578
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Speaker 1: agent dollars. Now here's the thing, He's John Robinson ain't scared. Okay,

579
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: that's how I put John Robinson's from West Tennessee. So

580
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: the proper way to say it is John Robinson ain't scared, right,

581
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Speaker 1: and he's gonna do some stuff. It's not gonna be

582
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: all about resigning the Titans free agents. He's gonna sign

583
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: some of them, but he's gonna let some other ones

584
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: walk because he's gonna be convinced he can go get

585
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: better players somewhere else. Trying to go to that to

586
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: that next level. But I tell you what's fascinating. It's

587
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: fascinating to be here and to have the Titans be

588
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: such a storyline like they are, with everybody wondering what

589
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna do at quarterback and running back into particular,

590
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: I's getting coffee at six thirty this morning and somebody

591
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: from NFL networks like, so, what do you think they're

592
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: gonna do? Truth is, I have no idea what they're

593
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm scared to ask. But as a story

594
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: you're right. I'm just glad we're you know, we're talking

595
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: football and we got to play into January a little

596
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: bit because that's when you when you don't get to

597
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: do it for a long time, it is I mean,

598
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: this was really fun to get to do it again

599
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: after seventeen years, because you you appreciate it while it's

600
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: happening early on, but you sure do appreciate it even

601
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: more now. Yeah. Well i'd like to appreciate it. Yeah,

602
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: well you use the word again, we'd like to Well,

603
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are I mean, listen, here's the

604
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: thing is, when you're in the mix and when you're

605
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: knocking on the door, eventually it happens. Yeah, and that

606
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: and that's the whole key to this. If you take

607
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 1: out the Patriots, then for all the rest of us

608
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: who are trying to trying to knock on the door

609
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: and bang on it, it happens at some point. What

610
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: they've done has been so remarkable. Yeah, and and people

611
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: even forget the fun never stops here. On Texans Radio,

612
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: Mark vanderma and John Harris with you tonight, and let's

613
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: revisit a conversation we had at the combine with Frank Frangie,

614
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars. And we started this one

615
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: out with complimenting Frank on his London scouting report, telling

616
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: us that it would take so long to get anywhere

617
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: in town. To go ten miles could take an hour

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00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: by vehicle. Frank's a good guy. Let's check in. Thank

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Speaker 1: you guys for having me on. And I'm glad you

620
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: had a good time during the game. Y'all had a

621
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: better time than he did, so, but I'm I'm glad

622
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: you had a good time and day. Um uh, yeah,

623
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Speaker 1: it's a it's two games. It's two games this year,

624
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: and it's it's an unusual thing. Uh, they'll play back

625
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: to back game. This is the only year now for

626
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: sure we know that's going to happen. It's not like

627
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: this is a forever thing. It could become in it

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00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: for everything, I suppose, but right now it's it's it's

629
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Speaker 1: a two times two times. So we'll go on a Thursday,

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Speaker 1: I would assume, um, because that's what we've always done.

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Speaker 1: Like you guys did play the game, stay probably somewhere different, Uh,

632
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: stay kind of almost out in the suburbs a little bit,

633
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: which is what we've done in the past. Practice all week,

634
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: come back to Wembley and play a second game. No,

635
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: none of that has been determined, but that's my guests.

636
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: But it's it's a it's an unusual deal. Two games

637
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Speaker 1: back to back games in London. I think you should

638
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: stay with the Texans stayed and it was practice in

639
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: front of the castle. Yeah see there, see there, that's

640
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: that's every year. I think it was a good spot

641
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: for the team. It was it was out of town,

642
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: not by only maybe twenty minutes in the United States,

643
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: but maybe forty two an hour in London the way

644
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: the roads are. Frank It was probably a few weeks

645
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: back when Shot and Mark Lamping met with Jacksonville media

646
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: and kind of gave us State of the Union on

647
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and that's when it was announced. With the

648
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: two games in London, there was talking about lot Jay,

649
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: which to people in Jacksonville they know, and when I

650
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: brought it up with you earlier, exactly what I was

651
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: talking about. How did that go over with callers and

652
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: listeners for your show? How's it gone over in Jacksonville?

653
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: That what they talked about that day, A lot of things.

654
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: The official what they call the State of the Jaguars

655
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: comes up in April, so there'll be more clarity there, John,

656
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: But a lot Jay is a big development. And I'll

657
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: give you kind of the overview. We go to all

658
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: these cities and now you know, the energy stadiums a

659
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: little as not in the middle oftown like Middidias, but

660
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: for most of these towns. We all go to the

661
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: football stadiums in Middletown and these thriving downtowns and they're

662
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: going crazy and bars and restaurants and thriving nightlife and

663
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: business and residents. Well, Jacksonville doesn't have that, and John,

664
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, nobody knows it better than you for your

665
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: time in Jacksonville. So we don't have that. So Sean's

666
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: vision is build that, and we're calling it Lot Jay

667
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: because that's where the big parking lot is, where the

668
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: media parks. But they want to turn that into a

669
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: thriving entertainment, retail, business, residential district. That's going to be

670
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: right on the river. It's gonna be magnificent. And he

671
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: wants to build that. Now, the city's gonna have to

672
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: put up two hundred and thirty million dollars. That's their

673
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: part of it. He'll put up similar dollars and it's

674
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: a three year deal and the Jags want that build.

675
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: When that is built, though, the belief is from from

676
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: what Shot and Markets told the public, is there will

677
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: be enough of a revenue stream that maybe the London

678
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: game isn't necessary. Right now, the Jags make twice as

679
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: much playing in London as they do playing at home.

680
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: Fifteen percent of the overall revenue comes from London. That's

681
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: why they do it. And so the hope is, and look,

682
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: Jackson's got two fortune five hundred companies, Boston's got eighteen,

683
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: New York's got twenty four. We have two, and I

684
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: think and that's the business model where the people like

685
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: that or not. To your first question, they didn't go

686
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: over very well. Sure, nobody wants to lose a second

687
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: home game to London. There's all the talk that the

688
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: team's going to London. Well, the team's never moved in

689
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: to London. No team can play in London. Now teams

690
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: can move. It's some point Jackson's gonna have to build.

691
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: It's gonna renovated stadium. The way the way the world

692
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: works in the stadium business is twenty seven of the

693
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: NFL teams have relatively new, beautiful stadiums. Twenty seven, Okay,

694
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: they do. Three didn't do it. Saint Louis, Oakland and

695
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: San Diego teams left. It's not rocket science. The three

696
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: that didn't do it. What the teams left? Now? Buffalo

697
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville are next on the clock, and they're both

698
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: gonna If Buffalo doesn't doew that teams going to Toronto.

699
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: And if jackson doesn't do it, they're in some trouble.

700
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: So I think all of this is about more revenue,

701
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: having enough money to make the team makes sense and

702
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: be viable in Jacksonville. Let me ask you this, as

703
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: crazy as this might sound, could a team play in

704
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: London a half schedule? Or could a team play two

705
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: games come back two games and maybe actually live in

706
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: the States, but go over there for four two week trips.

707
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it out there, Frank, We've asked the

708
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: question so many times, obviously, Well that's the question. I'm

709
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: in sports radio, is John, and you know Mark, in

710
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: addition to working for the team, I do both, you know.

711
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: So we've asked that with our SI Radio had on.

712
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: I've asked that question a thousand times every not just

713
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville people. It's just not viable. It's a hard trip.

714
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: It's you guys took it. It's a hard trips that

715
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: would be too long trips. Uh, it's a hard It's hard.

716
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: It would be hard to be competitive. It would be

717
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: hard not for the team that comes over there once,

718
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: for the team that has to go four times. It

719
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: would be hard to be competitive. You have to spend

720
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: a lot of your time when you want to try

721
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: a guy out your team's over there. Some guys don't

722
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: even have passports. It's a the money that would be involved.

723
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: So I don't think you could do it. Could a

724
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Speaker 1: team play six and two on a regular basis, probably,

725
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: but I don't think. I hope that doesn't happen. My

726
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: hope is that the lot Jay works, which John asked about,

727
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: and one day there's going to be a new stadium,

728
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: or there's not gonna be a team there. That's again,

729
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: that's that's every in twenty years energy stadium is gonna

730
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: be obsolete, and if Houston dudn't building a new one,

731
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: team is gonna leave. That's just the way teams do it.

732
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: So and hopefully that doesn't happen for any of our teams,

733
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: but hopefully the day will come when they play all

734
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: eight Jackson, I think that's what everybody hopes. Frank quarterback situation.

735
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: Nick comes in paying a lot of money. Obviously, because

736
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: you have to pay money in the cap situation, you

737
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: have some players are jettison. We benefit from that with

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00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Sean Gibson. Then Gardner takes over after Nick gets hurting.

739
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: Net Opener has some moments. He had one a gets us.

740
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: He almost pulled it out, but he has way at Denver.

741
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: He's just amazing. Mits Humanius sort of takes over in London.

742
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: It's sort of died out because Nick was coming back.

743
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: Then Minshew comes back at the end leads him to

744
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: some wins. His six round pick you got two picks

745
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: in the first round. How does the quarterback situation look

746
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: for Jackie? Yeah, nobody really, John's that's the question. That's

747
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: that is the question in Jacksonville that everyone's trying to

748
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: figure out in my mind. In my mind, and I

749
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: maybe the only guy that thinks it's I think he's

750
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: a pretty good quarterbacks room. I think Gardner, he through

751
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: twenty one touchdowns and six picks in his is a rookie.

752
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: Twenty one and six is a rookie is one of

753
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: the best rookie numbers in the history of the league.

754
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: He's got he's got a charisma to him. He won

755
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: six games. People say, well, which team did he beat?

756
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't think we beat. He beat six NFL teams. Okay,

757
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: that's what beat and so came hair of beating the

758
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: text for and he really did. If they get the

759
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: two point conversion, they win the game. So so the

760
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: point is he's got some charisma. As for Nick, Nick

761
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: played two and a half games, and all of a

762
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: sudden people decided he wasn't very good. Well that's not

763
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: true either now, so so I think they're both pretty

764
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: good players. That's just again I'm a biased guy, but

765
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good quarterback room. The question becomes,

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00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: they're different and fifteen years ago, ten years ago, Gardner

767
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: Mishie wouldn't be in the league, right And fifteen years

768
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: ago Deshaun Watson would be an okay player in the league.

769
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Speaker 1: Now the game's changed in the field spread and you

770
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: have to have a little bit of mobility and so

771
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to have the rifle arm. Dushan has that.

772
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Gardner does so, so I think

773
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: the game's changed. I think it'll be a competition. You're

774
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: right about the mania. Fans are in love of Gardner Minshew,

775
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: and Gardner's earned that and so so I think as

776
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: far as the mania goes, Yeah, I think the MANI

777
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: is real. I think they're both pretty good quarterbacks. You

778
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: asked me to get I honestly don't know who the quarterback.

779
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: Most people tell you Minshew, I don't know. So Frank

780
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: Frangie with us voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars and hosts

781
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: a talk show in Jacksonville. So the the majority of

782
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: fans you feel like Minshoe, I think so, okay. I

783
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: think it's what the fans want. Just want to be

784
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: clear on that all right, division? What are you thinking here,

785
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: Frank with the other three. I think it's the best

786
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: division of football. I think I used to think. I

787
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: used to the NFC South was the best, and I

788
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: don't think this one's better. I think it's the best

789
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Speaker 1: division in football. I think the ten. I'm not saying

790
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Speaker 1: this because I'm on with you guys. We just had

791
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: to talk. We done on my air. I think the

792
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: I think the Texans are really well positioned. I think

793
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Speaker 1: I've always said this college. You know what Alabama wins,

794
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: quarterback play and dudes on defense. Do you want LSU

795
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: in the National title? Quarterback play and dudes on defense.

796
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: I think the Houston Texans have quarterback play and dudes

797
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: on defense. I one of those dudes are getting older,

798
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, in here. So I think the Texans are

799
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: well positioned. I think the Titans. I think this guy

800
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: might Variable might be pretty good. He scares me a

801
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: little bit. They might have found something in Variable. I

802
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: just think there's a something, there's an it factor to him,

803
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: and I think if he's good, they have a chance

804
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: to be pretty good. The Cults are the X factor. Um,

805
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: They've got a great offensive line. If they at Rivers.

806
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: We'll see you know, right and and our and honestly,

807
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: our team used to. I think our team could be

808
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: another four have another four or five win season. I

809
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: also think our team could win ten or eleven games.

810
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: I think they gotta get in Goaquay done. Josh Allen's

811
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,479
Speaker 1: gonna be a star now. I mean they he is gonna.

812
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: They found so they fell into it. Maybe a little

813
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: bit that he's still there at seven. I think it's

814
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: the best division in football. Mark. I think the Texans

815
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: are the team to beat in the division, but I

816
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: think the Titans are right there. The Coats don't go

817
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,959
Speaker 1: away for very long, and I think we may be okay.

818
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: So I love the division, I really do. That's our friend,

819
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: Frank Frangie, voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Been a fun

820
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: show tonight, visiting with a couple of AFC South voices,

821
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: and again, thoughts and prayers to everyone in Nashville on

822
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: the tornado damage and the deaths suffered as a result

823
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Speaker 1: of that. Just terrible stuff. We'll be back tomorrow. Six

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Speaker 1: o'clo