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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, thanks for pulling up a chair. Today on

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Speaker 1: Table for two.

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Speaker 2: We're at the Sunset Tower in Hollywood, my favorite joint,

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Speaker 2: and this is Bruce Bosi.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: Those are super glamorous, very special day because we're having

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Speaker 2: lunch with an icon, with someone who's been in the

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have the chop salad with the exactly.

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Speaker 1: The way you're DoD He's tan, he's charming, he has

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Speaker 1: so much charisma. He has started movies, television, Broadway. He's

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Speaker 3: I wish I could eat more of this, but I've

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Speaker 3: talked too much.

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Speaker 1: He is a very debonair, very funny, extremely charismatic George Hamilton.

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Speaker 2: So let me tell you, pull up a chair, grab

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Speaker 2: yourself a glass of rose, because we are gonna have

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Speaker 2: some good times today and hear some epic stories from

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Speaker 2: years gone by, and you'll be surprised. There's a future

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Speaker 2: for this eighty four year old. So stay with us

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Speaker 2: and we'll be right back. I'm Bruce Bosi and this

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Speaker 2: is my podcast Table for two. So mister Hamilton, thank

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Speaker 2: you for George, thank you for pulling up a chair

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Speaker 2: today on table for two. It's a big deal, and

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to sort of say so, you know,

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Speaker 2: fortitude to stick around. And we're sitting if you pulled

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Speaker 2: iconic man, a true Hollywood superstar, your royalty in Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: You are what the definition of a movie star is.

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Speaker 2: You've had incredible career. Georgia started in movies, television. You've

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Speaker 2: hosted your own successful daytime talk show. You start on Broadway.

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Speaker 2: You've published two very successful books. You're a successful producer.

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Speaker 2: You're an entrepreneur, the skincare line, the tanning salons. You've

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Speaker 2: been the Grand Marshal of a parade. You've been a

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Speaker 1: You've been a.

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Speaker 2: Reality television star. You've had cigars named after you. You've

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Speaker 2: been a lover. You've married your father, a brother, a son,

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Speaker 2: Boulevard Walker Fame. I am sitting with today a legend

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Speaker 2: mister George Hamilton, thank you for joining me today.

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Speaker 4: And I was married and divorced only one time you've

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Speaker 4: been record that is yeah, and remained a friend over

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Speaker 4: the years. And you know, I got I got a

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Speaker 4: spring And then I got a it's been there with

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Speaker 4: running a repair service for stars literally and Bom Springs.

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Speaker 3: You gotta go down and fix it? Why not? You know,

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Speaker 2: No, you have to keep that. So you are from Memphis, right,

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Speaker 4: Never met him in Memphis in the in the beginning

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Speaker 4: He had a sort of cook house. He liked it

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Speaker 3: His world was.

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Speaker 4: All the rest of it was kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel. And do you think it has to do

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Speaker 4: I do think I've read something about you once you

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Speaker 4: I can have a funny line and it could be cutting,

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Speaker 4: And people will say, well, you know that shows weakness,

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Speaker 4: I see people in the streets, you know, all messed

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Speaker 2: When I see people you know who unfortunately are living

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's so true, And how we look at life determines

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Speaker 4: I always resent that, and I always resist it. The

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Speaker 3: It always finds a better way for me, and it

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Speaker 3: But I've let go of that all my life.

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Speaker 4: I never did in my mind something cheap or hurtful

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Speaker 1: So if we kind of flip from Memphis, what brought

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Speaker 4: Well, they were separate by years. My mother and brother

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Speaker 4: He taught me so much. He had the best taste

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Speaker 1: My brother just did that, and he knew what he dresses,

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Speaker 3: He created her, He absolutely created He then said to

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Speaker 4: My little brother didn't know where he'd come from. Is

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Speaker 3: We just don't. We just know that the universe is going.

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Speaker 4: To provide right exactly. So my mother and brother set out.

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Speaker 4: We bought a Lincoln Continental convertible. Yeah it was pea

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Speaker 3: Them were apset doning, yes, dunning, and we you know,

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Speaker 4: But we drove across country and we broke down somewhere

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Speaker 4: That was now at that time, I was a little

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Speaker 3: And I went and I put my mother and my

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Speaker 3: we drove to a Capulco, which was a hell of

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Speaker 2: The garbage truck. Thank you that this is a movie.

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Speaker 2: The story you're talking about, like, what an adventure.

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Speaker 4: My brother was really a lovely human being and taught

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Speaker 3: He's divine, you know.

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have dinner with him, and I were going

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Speaker 4: to find a father for all of us.

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Speaker 3: It's just gonna work beautifully. And I'd say, oh great.

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Speaker 4: We'd sit down and the guy would walk and he

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Speaker 3: We move on to the next town, right.

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Speaker 4: She was just outrageous, you know. And Bill would say, well,

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Speaker 4: way he did. He don't wear brown shoes after six o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Now we understand, like how you got such incredible style

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Speaker 1: I mean, this was to have a mom like that,

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Speaker 4: It was a bizarre thing because Bill and Mom wanted

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Speaker 3: Capodi was at our.

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Speaker 4: House every night, really at Beriakman Place in New York,

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Speaker 4: and my brother when they ran out quite often they'd

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Speaker 4: run out of money and they wouldn't have any more

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Speaker 4: cabar in anymore cannopages. My brother would go back in

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Speaker 3: And I said, Bill, you can't do it. He said,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Table for two.

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Speaker 5: Our guest, George Hamilton has been a Hollywood fixture since

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Speaker 5: the nineteen fifties, but you might not know that being

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Speaker 5: a movie star was not his first choice for.

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Speaker 3: A career Hollywood. When we got to Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me like, you got to Hollywood and you're

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Speaker 1: how old?

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Speaker 3: Now, Well, I was about twelve.

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Speaker 4: Then it's your twelve, I guess in ten, eleven, twelve

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Speaker 4: in that time, and sometimes it seemed forever, but we

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Speaker 4: stopped in all these different towns. My mother thought that

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Speaker 4: then I realized something.

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Speaker 3: They were here.

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Speaker 4: We had houses all over, they'd had a little money

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Speaker 4: from they'd inherited with the death of my grandmother and grandfather,

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Speaker 4: and they were living the life they thought movie stars lived.

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Speaker 4: And they were I mean my mother there was nothing

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Speaker 4: to see Clark Gable at dinner with my mother. I mean,

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Speaker 4: these were things that, oh yeah, all the time. And

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Speaker 4: my mother knew all the movies stars.

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Speaker 1: Now was she pursuing the career or she just was

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Speaker 4: So they were enamored from the first day they saw

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Speaker 4: a movie in her movie house and they saw themselves

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Speaker 4: in it, both of them. And my brother was pushing

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Speaker 4: my mother because he wanted it too, and neither one.

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Speaker 3: He was incredibly good looking, and I.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't fashionable to be gay in those days, and very

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Speaker 4: hard right and Bill and I I laughed a lot

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Speaker 4: of Bill's outrageous.

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Speaker 3: It's his sense of humor was so outrageous. And my

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Speaker 3: used Bill's lane, which was just a foolish thing.

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Speaker 4: She went and she had this screen test where one

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Speaker 4: She was supposed to say she supposed to seduce him

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Speaker 4: on camera, and she was all right with that, except

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Speaker 4: she did say exactly what.

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Speaker 3: Billy told her. A gentleman doesn't wear brown shoes after

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Speaker 3: six o'clock. And that was the end of her career.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. It's very kind. But we're moving on.

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Speaker 1: We're moving on.

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Speaker 2: So when you get to Hollywood, you're going into your teens,

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Speaker 2: did you have a influence that you looked at like

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Speaker 2: you have the itch you wanted to become an actor?

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Speaker 3: Brusle? You know what what got it for me? I

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Speaker 3: really wanted to be a doctor because my grandmother and

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Speaker 3: medicine that doesn't people don't understand the mind. The power

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Speaker 4: I thought, it's not possible the way they're doing it,

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Speaker 4: you know, just they're failing left and right, and yet

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Speaker 4: they're the darlings of the tomb. So years later I

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Speaker 4: decided I was getting out of school. I was seventeen,

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Speaker 4: and I thought, why don't I try that, just to

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Speaker 4: see if my idea is right. They wanted it too much,

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Speaker 4: and I figured out the way to handle Hollywood is

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Speaker 4: let them think you don't need them. So when I

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Speaker 4: went to MGM, an agent brought me in with ten guys,

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Speaker 4: and they were all kind of like a yellow dog

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Speaker 4: casting kanya. So I decided I'd rent a Rolls Royce

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Speaker 4: that was in nineteen thirty nine, Snack of Deville, built

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Speaker 4: so while I was standing with these ten guys and

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Speaker 4: sell us, I kept going to the window, and I'd

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Speaker 4: and said, be right down, be right And I said,

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Speaker 4: what are you doing? I said, these cars downstairs and

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Speaker 4: I have to go.

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Speaker 3: This is what do you have to go for?

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Speaker 4: I said, well, mommy and I this is not for me.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be an actor. I said, God,

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Speaker 4: I can make much more money in the family, but

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Speaker 4: I don't want to do this. And they said, well,

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Speaker 4: shook hands with each boy and walked out. I was

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Speaker 4: called back an hour later and say, they want you back.

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Speaker 4: They want to talk to you again. I said, I'm

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Speaker 4: better trust about it than that. Anyway, I got my

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Speaker 4: I pretended I didn't want it. I went under contract

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Speaker 4: the first day, you asked me. The first person I

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Speaker 1: Get out and I walked.

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Speaker 4: I said, mister Grant, how what do I do to

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Speaker 4: be like you. He said, why didn't you get a

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Speaker 3: That? And then I saw I saw fred as stair dancing,

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Speaker 4: He said and I waited finish and I said, mister Stare,

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Speaker 4: can you give me any tips because I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: learn about acting and on. And he said, well, they

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Speaker 4: have a good tailor here, but there's a better one

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Speaker 4: in London that you might one day get. Told me

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Speaker 4: the name of the taylor. I thought, so far, I've

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Speaker 4: then I realized that there's something else going on. He said,

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Speaker 4: we were in a scene and they said, Mitch, say

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Speaker 4: he said, I know the lines. I'm just too drunk

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Speaker 3: This is just Hollywood. So now he and I work

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Speaker 3: all day. He never misses the line. We finished around

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Speaker 3: We're going to have a drink. I thought, okay. Four

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Speaker 4: I'm still drinking with Robert Mitchum and I said, mister Mitchell,

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Speaker 4: in the morning. He said, you know, you worry about

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Speaker 4: a tan. Well for days, that was it. I had

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Speaker 4: And that advice was that I never learned anything about acting.

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Speaker 4: That was another stuff they said to me at the studio.

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Speaker 4: This is the best part of okay, They said to

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Speaker 1: Just stay with the MGM women.

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Speaker 3: So I found a list of them. They were about

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Speaker 4: So the next thing I would take, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 3: I was doing what the studio wanted.

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Speaker 4: So as it went on, I found out something that

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Speaker 4: was extraordinary. First of all, there were lots of parts,

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Speaker 4: They had no breakdowns. So the agents, I'm working on

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Speaker 4: knew that the agent weren't going to come up with anything.

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Speaker 4: So I took it in my own hands, and I

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Speaker 3: Go to the offices.

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Speaker 4: So for maybe several weeks sometimes nobody knew what they

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Speaker 4: So finally they'd say to me. The agent said, well,

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Speaker 4: you know there's nothing right now. Oh yes, there's one

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Speaker 4: It's a movie of you know, well, you're not Italian,

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Speaker 4: I said, I'm an actor. Well we will find out

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I found out the biggest secret. There

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Speaker 4: And they came in at lunchtime and serviced the gentleman.

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Speaker 4: The gentleman in question here. So I found out what

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Speaker 4: because the secretaries gave them time by taking up long lunches.

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Speaker 1: These the executives on the lot exactly.

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Speaker 3: So I would arrive in their offices, knock on the door.

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Speaker 3: Who is it. It's George Hewmen, can you come back?

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Speaker 4: And I would open the door and I would catch

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Speaker 3: He got to be He said, what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: I said, I'm just coming from an appointment we had

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Speaker 4: I said, but but I have an appointment.

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Speaker 3: Well, come back.

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Speaker 4: And then he came out and say, you didn't see

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Speaker 4: I saw something.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, George very cunning well.

442
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Speaker 4: I was running the studio in my own way. You

443
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 4: were because I knew the parts. I could tell the

444
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 4: other actors. Not only could tell the other pipes, I

445
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 4: could sell them. So I was makingside money.

446
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: Because you would tell your cronies on the did you wow?

447
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: I mean how times have changed? I mean this was

448
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 2: you know, this was a small the studio system, and

449
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: you had to learn the system. I figured, acting is

450
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: the last thing I need. I need to know how

451
00:22:52,760 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: they work the system. Yes, was the studio system, which

452
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: eventually came to an end. And you should have probably

453
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: one of the last people in. You know, you were

454
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 2: such a young buck and you had to learn everything,

455
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: the dance classes and like you said, you know, you

456
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: had access to all this stuff.

457
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: Looking back, was it a fun time or was it

458
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: a good time? Or how does it settle with you?

459
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 4: It's interesting because I felt that my mother and brother failed.

460
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 4: I took the position that no matter what happened, I

461
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 4: was going to try it and pretend I didn't need it,

462
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 4: and pretend it wasn't that important. It was important to me.

463
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 4: Once I got in, I thought, I don't want to fail.

464
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 4: But the minute I started showing I cared about it,

465
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 4: it was not as often it as it was. It's

466
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: a strange thing. You think the things you care about

467
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 4: and you willing to do everything for to get are

468
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 4: the things you get. It's not the way it works.

469
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say it, but you know, I remember Manelli,

470
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: I proposed nothing. But Monelli, I was going to tell

471
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: you this before, was saying to George. Prepared.

472
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 4: He came over and George proparved this young intense actor

473
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: who was getting big movies like Breakfast at Tiffany. He

474
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 4: said to George, he said, George, I know you are

475
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 4: a seething volcano inside and you were about to explode it,

476
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 4: but I have to tell you there is nothing happening

477
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 4: on your face. Well George was just crushed right. And

478
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: and this guy on the news guy was there and

479
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 4: he he you know, journalist, Harrison Carrol. And he said

480
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 4: to him, he said, George, are you becoming a movie

481
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 4: stars at what you're doing?

482
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: He said, I'm an actor. And he turned to me,

483
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: said you're an actor. I said, no, I'm a movie.

484
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: I would have been said the same thing.

485
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: It was just the fun of it. I loved. I

486
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 3: always loved the joke of all of it. Even if

487
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: I was it, I liked it.

488
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on Table for two.

489
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Speaker 5: Few people have better stories than George Hamilton, from his

490
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 5: time dating President Lyndon Johnson's daughter to his life from

491
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 5: Palm Beach. I feel lucky that George has sat down

492
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 5: with me today to share some of his incredible tales.

493
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Speaker 3: People will say, what are you doing next week?

494
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 4: And they say, you know it's going to be bad weather,

495
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 4: and we're thinking about going to such and such or somewhere,

496
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 4: And I'd say, I don't know, but I'll figure it out.

497
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: And then I'd get five or.

498
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 4: Six invitations, sometimes to different towns and countries.

499
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 3: Or my favorite is to go out to the airport.

500
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: Yea three or four You got to really listen to this,

501
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: the three or four.

502
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: Aviation.

503
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, out there at the airport and I walk in

504
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 4: with my two suitcases and newspaper, and I don't know

505
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 4: how long I'm going to be because first of all,

506
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: I don't have a flight. I just go out there

507
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: to see if any of the people I know or

508
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 4: know of are going somewhere I might be invited, So

509
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 4: I take along newspaper put my feet up invariably, and

510
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 4: I could tell you the names of maybe five of

511
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 4: the most important businessmen in the world come through that

512
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 4: airport every day. So I'm always sitting there having a coffee.

513
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 4: They have a very expensive coffee machine. I've never seen

514
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 4: the equal up. It's phenomen It's anything you like and

515
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: give you a massage at the same time.

516
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 3: So I'm always drinking coffee.

517
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 4: I'm so wired by the time I'm ready to go,

518
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 4: and I'm just hopeful someone and I'll say, where are

519
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 4: you going there? So we're going to Paris. We have

520
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 4: to stop in London for a couple of hours and

521
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 4: we're going to Paris. Oh god, I'm trying to get there.

522
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 4: I'm actually trying to get to London and Paris. And

523
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 4: you're going where London Paris? Well, why don't you come

524
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 4: with us. I'm waiting for my plane. It's too but

525
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 4: there late where that I don't know. I think they're

526
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: in Gander. In Gander, Yeah, they had some sort of

527
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 4: a problem, some kind of weather problem.

528
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: Well, come on to snow problem. We've got it. We

529
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: got extra stuff for him. You know, you've got the

530
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: food he brought the caviar and all that.

531
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I go right on the plane,

532
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: sit down and and people, I mean practically have my.

533
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 3: Massage and I do it all the time. This is

534
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: brilliant it for myself. You know you are going to

535
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: run it.

536
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: Nobody on this planet could do that.

537
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 3: But oh, I think it's sick great.

538
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: Was there ever a time that you put yourself in

539
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: a situation that you're like, Okay.

540
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 4: I'm in over my head here right this is I

541
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: was over my head from the day and went most

542
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: of its bend over my head. I don't think it's

543
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 4: fun to swim and shallow water. Yeah, I've always liked

544
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 4: to be figuring it out as I go.

545
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: What was the most exciting moment in the deep end

546
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: of the pool?

547
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: There's too many things. There's so many things that people listen.

548
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 4: There was a rumor for a while that I was

549
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 4: in the CIA. This was all over town, people saying,

550
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 4: we know you're in the CIA. Why and well, I'd

551
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 4: gone out with the daughter of the president.

552
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you.

553
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: And Johnson was an extraordinary man. He did not like

554
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 3: the idea. He was all right initially, but he didn't

555
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: like the idea.

556
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 4: When he found out that I was sole support for

557
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 4: my family and I was deferred from the draft. Now

558
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 4: this is Vietnam, and I got it very clear it's

559
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 4: about time for him to join up. And I thought,

560
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 4: why should I be bullied into going when I am

561
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 4: sole support for my family.

562
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: I'm taking care of him.

563
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: But this went on, and it got to a point

564
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: where I got a call from Linda Johnson's office the

565
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 4: White House said.

566
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: He'd like to see me at the LBJ ranch and

567
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: I flew down.

568
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: We were arriving in King Air, his King Air, and

569
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: below was Lincoln Continental convertible going about stall speed of

570
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: the airplane.

571
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: But it must have been ninety miles an hour down

572
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: the road right beneath us.

573
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: And we we land and Lindon Johnson says, Linda's with me,

574
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 4: and he says, get in, Georgie. I get in, and

575
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 4: I get into a Lincolnonmental convertible but the top down

576
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: and he hands me a thirty o six and he's

577
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: got a twenty twenty at Winchester, and I'm thinking to myself,

578
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 4: I'm six inches from the head of the President of

579
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 4: the United States with a gun.

580
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: This is where I get it. They'll find me all over,

581
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: paint all over the car.

582
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: And we went riding in the in the in the

583
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: car for a little while, hunting, and all of a

584
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 4: sudden he says, there's one, get him, get him. I'm

585
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: looking there's a deer, and I don't know what to do.

586
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: I last thing I want to do is fire a

587
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: gun in the car. So I jumped out and shot

588
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: and I think I hit it, and then it ran

589
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: over here, and ran over there and ran back. Finally

590
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 4: it fell a secret Service. Get up, they pick him up.

591
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 4: They put him on the truck. We go again, get in, George,

592
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: go again, another one and he turns to me and

593
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: I get it. And he turns to me and he says, damn,

594
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 4: you're regular Daniel Boone. Now, all of a sudden I

595
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 4: see him turning around talking to me, and he's relieving himself. Now,

596
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: where do you look right when you got the President

597
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: of the United States relieving himself with may I say,

598
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: I didn't see, but I hear the rumor.

599
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: This is next level. I mean I would have looked.

600
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: Well, you can't, you just can't. I'm very patriotic. My

601
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: mother and brother. As things went on, time went on.

602
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: My brother wanted more than life to give me, and

603
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: I didn't understand this. He wanted to give me a

604
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 4: house in Beverly Hills, and I never understood why a particularly,

605
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 4: I ended up buying a house that was thirty nine rooms.

606
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 4: It's one of the largest house. Second house built in

607
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: Beverly Hills still there.

608
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 3: It was a house that the mayor built Sylvie's Faulding,

609
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: and it had a tunnel. And I found out the

610
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: tunnel ran from that.

611
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: House to Pickfair, which was the house that Mary Pickford

612
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: and Buddy Rogers learned together. So when my mother thought

613
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: she was going to marry Buddy Rogers from this little town,

614
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: all that trip across country for them to be movie

615
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: stars and didn't work. Then my going out to Hollywood

616
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 4: and connecting, they figured they were going to at least

617
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: let Mary Pickford know that they were there.

618
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: They had arrived.

619
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: Because Buddy was going to marry my mother and he

620
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: married Mary Pickford, America's sweetheart instead.

621
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: It broke her heart.

622
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: Wow, every man she ever went out with, most of

623
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 4: the motivations, all the guys that she went were for

624
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: one reason. That was to get us father, get us

625
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: someone to be ahead of the family. But her heart

626
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 4: was broken because Buddy Rogers. So when we got out

627
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: there California and I looking for her house, my brother

628
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: and mother maneuvered me into buying this particular house and

629
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 4: it was Douglas Fairbanks house and Mary Pickford. They wanted

630
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 4: Mary Pickford to know they were in town.

631
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: I bought the house.

632
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: My brother decorated incordibles, Savonnerie carpets and goldblas and seb

633
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: vases never seen. All my money was going to this

634
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: day and we had an invitation for Mary Pickford to

635
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 4: have dinner and she came in drinking Scotch and milk,

636
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: and she had little gold ringlets and a little close hat,

637
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: drunk out of her head with Buddy Rogers. And Mary

638
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: Pickford says, Tom, your mother and my husband have been

639
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: in love for years. They're probably and they had gone

640
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: into the kitchen. They're probably in there having their way

641
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: with each other. Now, she says to me, And you

642
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: want to be an actor? I said, well, I'm just starting.

643
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: She said, well, we're going to do a improvisation. I'm

644
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: going to have a heart attack and I'm going to

645
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: fall in your arms and you're going to give me

646
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: mouth to mouth or suscitation, And I thought, is.

647
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: This am I having out of body kids?

648
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: It's one hundred years old, and she's I've got her

649
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 4: in my arms and she wants to have mouth and

650
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 4: mouth resuscitation, just as I have her in my arms,

651
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 4: and she collapses. Buddy and my mother walk out of

652
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 4: the kitchen and he says, Oh, for Christ's sake, Mary,

653
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 4: you do this all the time.

654
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: Not get off.

655
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: Oh, Like the personalities are I mean, you're talking silent

656
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: film starts.

657
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 3: We weren't so silent.

658
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: They were not so silent.

659
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: So I mean, here you are. You've experienced Hollywood in

660
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Speaker 2: the fifties and the sixties and the seventies and eighties.

661
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Speaker 3: I mean, and the forties and the forties.

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Speaker 1: Is there a period of time that you look back?

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Speaker 2: So that was in your world the golden time, the

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Speaker 2: best time, because to me always the seventies seems so.

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Speaker 4: I would have thought so, because that's when I had

666
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Speaker 4: some sort of Hollywood fame in movies. It came to

667
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Speaker 4: a point where the studios were pushing you and you.

668
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Speaker 3: Were getting lots of work and you're making money, and

669
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Speaker 3: it was very glamorous, But it was never as glamorous

670
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Speaker 3: as the forties. Really that was those were real movie stars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people like Glorias Swanson used to come and stay

672
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Speaker 4: at the house with me. She knew the house because

673
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 4: she'd been in it many times. She felt comfortable in

674
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Speaker 4: the house. But she would come in her roles and

675
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: immediately once she was there, she took all of that off.

676
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 4: She just became part of our family. She brought her

677
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Speaker 4: She loved health food, so she always was doing health

678
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 4: food and she would stay for weeks. And to hear

679
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 4: Gloria Swanson tell about silent movies and stuff, it was extraordinary.

680
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: So I had all of that input, and in a

681
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Speaker 4: strange way, I didn't really want to be in the

682
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Speaker 4: period that I entered. I wanted to be in the

683
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Speaker 4: one before. So I played that character. And then then

684
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I found myself enormously out of

685
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Speaker 4: date because not even the James Dean was in it

686
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 4: more was in anymore. But then I found myself in

687
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Speaker 4: a movie with dressing in a very kind of well

688
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,479
Speaker 4: like al Pacino and al and I became the best

689
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Speaker 4: of friends. I just love how and we were I

690
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 4: played the lawyer and God followed the three and what

691
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Speaker 4: did I do? I dressed like they did in the

692
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Speaker 4: twenties and thirty hours movie that would have thought have

693
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Speaker 4: been street violent and everything in its own way. But

694
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Speaker 4: Francis knew how to marry those cultures together.

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Speaker 2: You know.

696
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Speaker 3: He was an amazing when they call me.

697
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Speaker 4: I got a call one day and they said the

698
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Speaker 4: Francis Coppler would like you to come in and meet

699
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: with him for a Godfather three. And I took a

700
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 4: deep breath and I said, now you tell Bob Evans

701
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Speaker 4: to stop trying to play jokes on the other time.

702
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 3: It's not funny. And I hung out. They called me back.

703
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: I said, this is not Bob Evans's office, this is

704
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Speaker 4: France's office, and he'd like to see you. And I said,

705
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Speaker 4: what are they going to do? Why would they want

706
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Speaker 4: me and the Godfather? I said, they want to make

707
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: a musical. He said, well, it's the part that Bobby

708
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: Devau was playing and he's not coming back. And it's

709
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: a different kind of lawyer. I said, what kind of lawyer?

710
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: And they said it was kind of like a palm beach.

711
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: I heard that word, mister fix that. I said, I'm

712
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 4: your man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I remember very elegant in Godfather three, you

714
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Speaker 2: know it was perfectly guys.

715
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Speaker 4: Well, that's why I wanted to do that, because I

716
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 4: saw the different eras up against each other, just in

717
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Speaker 4: a certain way. It was a very interesting. I asked France, said,

718
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Speaker 4: what am I doing, Francis, are you writing lines?

719
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Speaker 3: Very?

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Speaker 4: What are you doing?

721
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Speaker 3: He said, never be further than three feet from now?

722
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: I said why?

723
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Speaker 4: He said, You're a protector. You hang on every word

724
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 4: he's saying. You wonder what he's saying. You go correct it,

725
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 4: you know. I said, okay, And I said, well what

726
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 4: I do? Just look very intense, look at his hair,

727
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 4: count the strands of hair. So finally he's lying in

728
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: the street. He's been shot, and I got it his

729
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 4: head in my hands, and I say, I think you're going.

730
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Speaker 3: Bauld drove out racing.

731
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Speaker 1: Holly was a tough town. You don't sustain like you

732
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Speaker 1: have what like what is the magic?

733
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Speaker 4: But I think by the very nature of knowing at

734
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: least what those different eras were, yeah, I also learned

735
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: about them and realized that I wasn't particularly up to date.

736
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 4: And in a strange way, Hollywood always loops back and

737
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: brings an actor or an era up to date, incorporates

738
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Speaker 4: it by making it by an out of date thing

739
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 4: becoming in date again and it's a great history maker.

740
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Speaker 4: And once you visit, I mean you look at even

741
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 4: the movie that you know just won you have you

742
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: have an amazing era of history there. That was frightening,

743
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 4: one of the biggest decisions ever made. But that period

744
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: has become very interesting to this world again. But we

745
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: often do that because that has the power to do that,

746
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 4: and sometimes they just collect you along the way.

747
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Speaker 3: I'd wear Gane just as much as.

748
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Speaker 4: I'd wear a suit made by Paulo Matron or my

749
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 4: guys in England, Madison Shepard. But I kind of always

750
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 4: studied all that stuff because I think it's not enough

751
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 4: to be important in one ear. You got to go

752
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Speaker 4: the distance across all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, one of the things the sustainability

755
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Speaker 2: of someone in an industry, certainly like Hollywood, is you

756
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 2: have to have the interests like you do, lean into

757
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Speaker 2: understanding it, like the curiosity.

758
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Speaker 4: Well maybe that maybe I just couldn't. Maybe it took

759
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 4: me all this time to learn the act. Maybe I

760
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: didn't know how to act into no right. But you know,

761
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Speaker 4: I think one of the things in life is I

762
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 4: have never been able to take myself seriously. I take

763
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Speaker 4: the job, I take the situation, I kind of get

764
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Speaker 4: the joke, and I try my best.

765
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Speaker 3: To always lighten up.

766
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Speaker 4: I don't like giant ego, and I will find a

767
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: way to be self deprecating if I can. And people

768
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 4: didn't think it's because you're not good. They buy your

769
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 4: act even better. When you do that, you can hurt yourself.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people said you should get more serious.

771
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Speaker 3: I hate serious actors.

772
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Speaker 1: Because you can hurt yourself because if they start to

773
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Speaker 1: not take you as seriously. You know.

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Speaker 2: I relate to that comment because one of the things

775
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Speaker 2: I always tried to have when I was at work

776
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Speaker 2: was have fun. People who work with you look at

777
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: you having fun, think you're not really working, and you're like, no,

778
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Speaker 2: I'm working.

779
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Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm doing. But I'm also going to choose

780
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Speaker 1: to have fun.

781
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Speaker 2: And so therefore, and I think not being self deprecating

782
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Speaker 2: is again a way to survive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all the Michigoth that's around us, I agree.

784
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Speaker 4: And I think that they think you're not good because

785
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Speaker 4: of that. Yeah, And I don't care as long as

786
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 4: I'm having fun at this. Yeah, it's a very very

787
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: it's a very short lived The odds are for me

788
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Speaker 4: to have been in this now to being eighty four

789
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 4: years old, it's crazy. I don't think anyone would given

790
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Speaker 4: me odds.

791
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Speaker 1: I wish you could see. Your head of hair is

792
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Speaker 1: beautiful and you're smart.

793
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: I mean everything about your radiates. So if anyone is doubting,

794
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: but the resident, they're good.

795
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Speaker 1: They're really good.

796
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Speaker 3: No.

797
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 4: But you know it's strange because Vincent Camby just went

798
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: on about me one time. He said, Georgian has always

799
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: been too much. His hair has been so black that

800
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Speaker 4: oil even looks spills.

801
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Speaker 3: Off of it. That goes on and just just rip me.

802
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Speaker 3: And I'm reading it at the top. I'm going to

803
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Speaker 3: do a one man show. You all decided to do that. God,

804
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: this is news and Michael Einstein and are working together. Wow,

805
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: So that should be fine. You'll do it in New York,

806
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: you'll do it in different places. We've written already the

807
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: first draft of this and and I'm going from here

808
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: to go into a rehearsal on it. So it's very

809
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Speaker 3: it's very interesting.

810
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Speaker 2: It's a huge news at table on table for two

811
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Speaker 2: because I was one of the questions that I was

812
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: going to ask you, is like, with such an iconic

813
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: career and you've done so many things, what's up next?

814
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: That that is like hitting right on the nose. It's

815
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: like what I think we all would love to see

816
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: and clearly what you should do well.

817
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Speaker 4: I think the first thing would be to do a

818
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Speaker 4: Soto documentary sort maybe about what we talked about today

819
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: in your life and that kind of stuff, and be

820
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 4: able to bring all this new stuff into it so

821
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 4: it's old fashioned and yet it's up to day.

822
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I like that.

823
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Speaker 2: I like that you are such an elegant man, and

824
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: you are so you've had such a life, and I

825
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: love that it ain't nearly wrapping up.

826
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Speaker 1: You're not an eighty four year old. That's like done.

827
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: But there's an old thing. You finally get your head

828
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: together and your ass is falling apart. That's true. Why

829
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: it sounds, but you really can the things that you

830
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: find the most difficult in your old age are the

831
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: very things that keep you the youngest.

832
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Speaker 2: That's very insightful. So just to sort of dig a

833
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: little Deepersue give me an example, Well.

834
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: Talking about you're in an amazing shape, you go to

835
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 4: the gym. The last thing in the world to do

836
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 4: is to give it up when you're older.

837
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: Right, you do that more. Right.

838
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: You make very very important point.

839
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: I think the thing that I have done, as I've

840
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: committed to, let's say, the exercise piece of my life,

841
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: it has changed. I don't live the heavy weights anymore,

842
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: incorporated pilates or some wellness things. But you have to

843
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: keep you lean in more as you age because like

844
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: you know, and look, there are things that hurt, like

845
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: my knee hurts. I'm a niscus surgery on my lower back.

846
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: But you figure out how to manage that well.

847
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 3: But you can constantly look it over. For instance, if

848
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: you knee hurts, there's the reason the knee hurts.

849
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 4: But.

850
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: Generally protected by a muscle, So you build that muscle

851
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: specific above it if it's your If for instance, your

852
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: back is hurting quite often, it's the core. Yeah, you

853
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: start working on the core wor right, and then you

854
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: decide where it's the lower or the upper quadrants. And

855
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: you can do that in a chair while you're sitting. Yeah,

856
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: people think you have to be in a gym.

857
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: Right, No, you don't know.

858
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: I'm just walking and you can have walking is great,

859
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 4: but people are trying to overdo these eight thousand steps

860
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: a day or.

861
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: Whatever, constantly looking at their wrists monitor like, oh okay.

862
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: They get lost in those things.

863
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 4: It's the all around in movement. My just keep saying

864
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 4: stand all the time. I'll be in bed and it says.

865
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Speaker 2: Three in the morning, Stan, you get out, No, I do. George,

866
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: it is amazing to see you if you look amazing.

867
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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking the time to have lunch with me,

868
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 2: and I hope all of you have enjoyed this lunch

869
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 2: that George and I have had here and do it again.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Table for two with Bruce Bosi

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00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,200
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874
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,680
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Speaker 1: done by Jane Sarkin. To social media manager is Gracie Wiener.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Amy Sugarman, Uni Scherer, Kevin Yuvane, Bobby Bauer, Alison,

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Speaker 2: Kanter Graber, Barbara Jen, Jeff Klein, and the staff at

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Speaker 2: the Tower Bar in the world famous Sunset Tower Hotel

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Speaker 2: in Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.