Speaker 1: You're welcome, guys to horrible decisions. Before we get started
Speaker 1: with this week's episode, I do want to thank everybody
Speaker 1: who came up and turned out and motherfucking texts. I
Speaker 1: want to take my dick to all time row you
Speaker 1: gotta I just got gifted a dick. Oh you sure
Speaker 1: did by a are well, not you, but the other
Speaker 1: half of you. I am excited to start this week's episode.
Speaker 1: So many of our listeners have been wanting you to
Speaker 1: come on, um and before I want to give you
Speaker 1: the right motherfucking insure, I do want to say, y'all
Speaker 1: know this your girl Mandy be a k A full
Speaker 1: cor pumps a k A debt bitch ak stallion, and
Speaker 1: you want to go ahead and tell the people who
Speaker 1: you are. Hi, I'm wheezy and I am sitting across
Speaker 1: from jet setting Jasmine. Put your mouth closer to it.
Speaker 1: Look we don't you know, I gotta say. When I
Speaker 1: we did our show in Chicago and um Glamazantaomi came
Speaker 1: and she brought um Kingo's dick. So I was like,
Speaker 1: that's my pointing in my hand, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to talk, And at one point I started holding
Speaker 1: it like a microphone, and when I held it like
Speaker 1: a microphone, I realized one hand was not enough, and
Speaker 1: we just said it was the last lady that we
Speaker 1: were recording with, like, you can't wipe a big dick, right,
Speaker 1: But she said right, but you didn't, and like how
Speaker 1: long have y' all been together? And at what point
Speaker 1: in time was your pussy Like, yeah, it fits now,
Speaker 1: well before before any of that, I saw a picture
Speaker 1: of it. Oh, and before I knew wherever the relationship
Speaker 1: was going to go, the friendship, the business ship, whatever
Speaker 1: it was, I said I could probably deal with that
Speaker 1: every other night, and he was like okay, and I
Speaker 1: was like cool. So that we came to some terms
Speaker 1: of agreement early on that y'all weren't gonna funk every night,
Speaker 1: and you can't wipe a big dick, but you can
Speaker 1: a hole man, so that yeah, you have to the
Speaker 1: whole comprehensive man, so that way you don't have to
Speaker 1: focus on everyone loves when he comes on he is
Speaker 1: and just I think another thing that's so great too,
Speaker 1: is like when you think of I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys call each other porn stars or what verbid
Speaker 1: you use, but like I consider Hingnore our porn star.
Speaker 1: And I guess when I think of a male porn star,
Speaker 1: especially like a dom like that, you just don't expect
Speaker 1: him to be so sweet. I know that's a very
Speaker 1: simple word for him, but when he said like, oh,
Speaker 1: as long as it doesn't hurt kids or women or
Speaker 1: animals like and it was just so simple. And I've
Speaker 1: repeated that so many times because I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I don't find a way to wrap it up like
Speaker 1: sometimes when it comes to sexual kings and fetishes. And
Speaker 1: I'm just so grateful that he's been on our show
Speaker 1: and that our listeners like loved him so much, and
Speaker 1: especially male listeners because his energy, although dominant and mask
Speaker 1: was just like Hey, I want to help you too,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's so crucial for I think of
Speaker 1: business like you guys have. So I wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: what how did how did you guys spend Valentine's Day?
Speaker 1: So we excuse me, I am working through a cold
Speaker 1: right now. Um. We were on the West Coast. I
Speaker 1: just flew in yesterday. Actually we were out in San
Speaker 1: Francisco and we had the kids with us. We travel
Speaker 1: with them, so we took them out to eat what
Speaker 1: he took us out to eat. Um our always thought
Speaker 1: to pick the restaurant the most expensive, damn placed. It
Speaker 1: was called us Um San Francisco. Of course it is
Speaker 1: named after the damn city, and you know it was
Speaker 1: They had crabs and oysters and I was I was
Speaker 1: sick at the time, so I didn't even have much
Speaker 1: of an appetite. But they that didn't stop them, so
Speaker 1: they had Valentine's Day. We you know, brought the baby out.
Speaker 1: We went to a museum like interact. We took pictures.
Speaker 1: So see that's really you. What about you? How is
Speaker 1: the Valentine's Day? He was great. So although I was
Speaker 1: in my period, it was a really loving day. And
Speaker 1: I must say like I felt really loved. Star flew
Speaker 1: in from l A the night before and we woke
Speaker 1: up together and I was like, so he's not gonna
Speaker 1: make me breakfast. I was like so mad about it.
Speaker 1: I was like, you, I'm gonna let this shifts out.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, my man came with like a
Speaker 1: gift this stuff I wanted, like, you know, just like
Speaker 1: lounge clothes and like a Duffel bag I wanted and
Speaker 1: little ship and I had gotten him a Kobe Bryant
Speaker 1: momba mentality book that he's been asking for right now,
Speaker 1: I just want to say it sounds really simple of
Speaker 1: a gift, but it was so hard to get. So
Speaker 1: actually I went on live and started pitching about how
Speaker 1: I couldn't find it and shout out to my friend
Speaker 1: Alex who has the book, and I was like, nick,
Speaker 1: because it takes like a month to get it in stock,
Speaker 1: and they stopped publishing it because people are selling it.
Speaker 1: It's like on Amazon for a hundred and eighty dollars.
Speaker 1: Even they stopped selling um the league or was a
Speaker 1: Nike one of them decides to put Kobe's like off
Speaker 1: the mark it for a while because they because so
Speaker 1: many people would buy it. It's very sat yeah, and
Speaker 1: they didn't want that to happen to him. And then
Speaker 1: after that, so all I got him was the book.
Speaker 1: Because Mssius was coming into the house and he didn't
Speaker 1: know Um, so he just knew like I was like
Speaker 1: be home by eight, right, So he was like, is
Speaker 1: it a stripper a singing telegram? It's we're about to
Speaker 1: this like who coming into the house. And I was like, yo, God, damn,
Speaker 1: just let me surprise you. And the way that we'll
Speaker 1: be rolling. I know he thought we were having a
Speaker 1: three sons. So there's this girl that we've been flirting with.
Speaker 1: She lives down south somewhere. I won't say where, but
Speaker 1: I swear I thought he clicked on her Instagram to
Speaker 1: see if the bitch was in New York. I figure
Speaker 1: out what's gonna happen. So when the masseuse came in,
Speaker 1: she was actually cute, had dreads, black, big old booty.
Speaker 1: She comes in. He was like, oh he saw the table.
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, thank you so much. This is
Speaker 1: so sweet man. I mean when they got in the room,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was like, she's gonna suck my dick.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because it ain't come with a happy
Speaker 1: and no regular massous all right, bro, anyway, okay, so
Speaker 1: I would have appreciated it. I I was like, gonna
Speaker 1: stuck his dick. You know, I was gonna do a
Speaker 1: health thing. So anyway, my period was just at the
Speaker 1: end of the cusp, right, and I know that he
Speaker 1: really don't want to suck me in my period because
Speaker 1: just renovated his new place. So the couch lit, the
Speaker 1: bed sheets is lit. So I was like, look, I
Speaker 1: brought my own towel and we can, you know, do
Speaker 1: our thing. He was looking at me like if I'm
Speaker 1: sucking it for you, bitch? So we end up watching
Speaker 1: TV falling asleep. I was so upset. I woke up
Speaker 1: like such a fucking girl, almost still pm messing. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm ugly. He doesn't want to suck me.
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. How can we have This is such
Speaker 1: not everybody sucks through blood whatever, So I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: But wait, I don't understand it either. Okay, well I
Speaker 1: do so thanks. I woke up in the morning. I
Speaker 1: was in the clear, and then I put fingers up
Speaker 1: there and make sure nothing came out. I woke that
Speaker 1: ending up like hey, I wasn't even trying to be cute. Listen,
Speaker 1: it's off. We could funk. Now. You ain't see me
Speaker 1: in a minute because I was gone. It was Valentine's
Speaker 1: Then we ain't fuck. You're about to suck me, and
Speaker 1: I swear the pressure. I almost felt bad. This was
Speaker 1: like not romantic at all. He was like, okay, I
Speaker 1: was about to get up and go to the gym,
Speaker 1: and that's fine, you can suck me right now, which
Speaker 1: sat on the motherfucking bed with my knee look back
Speaker 1: like hello. It was good though, um, but now we
Speaker 1: had a cool um date weekend and took some shrooms.
Speaker 1: That was fun, so we went to sleep no more. Um.
Speaker 1: If you guys never heard of that, it's this play
Speaker 1: of Macbeth and basically like instead of sitting in it,
Speaker 1: you walk through it. You could follow like twelve different actors.
Speaker 1: It feels like a haunted house, but it's not scary.
Speaker 1: You just basically watched different scenes acting. So I was
Speaker 1: not really feeling the shrooms at first, So what are
Speaker 1: you doing? You're not feeling the drugs you're on? You
Speaker 1: take me and suddenly I get in this room. I
Speaker 1: cannot I've been sure described me exactly what I saw,
Speaker 1: and this was not the shrooms. It's like nine thirties.
Speaker 1: You walk in there, they're smoking long cigarettes. They have
Speaker 1: on these beaded gowns like it's a whole thing. One
Speaker 1: room was playing techno music. This thing was tired and
Speaker 1: ship he was like, yo, I'm gonna outstope for a
Speaker 1: second because it was getting a lot, and I hear techno.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why would techno music be playing? I'll walk
Speaker 1: in and it's like they recreated this moment in time. Basically,
Speaker 1: this is what I saw. There was a man with
Speaker 1: like a lamb's head. But this is real. This isn't hallucinating.
Speaker 1: Is this isn't hallucinating. This is real, Which is why
Speaker 1: the shroom's even got funnier. Because I had to confirm
Speaker 1: with the person next to me that I saw what
Speaker 1: I saw. I was gonna ask, did you sat check?
Speaker 1: The slow lights are going crazy and the lights are
Speaker 1: slowing down. So when the lights are slowing like this,
Speaker 1: you see things in segments right because they're flashing. There,
Speaker 1: the room's going completely black, then it's turning on. There's
Speaker 1: going completely blackness turning on. There is a baby of
Speaker 1: toy baby with blood on it. A woman just pulled
Speaker 1: it out of herself. Um she was getting naked. There
Speaker 1: was another bald woman who had like a bottle of
Speaker 1: her her chees or some kind of chocolate, pouring it
Speaker 1: on the guy with the lamb's head, whose dick was
Speaker 1: out and he was covering his dick. And then they
Speaker 1: just started dancing and like smearing chocolate over each other,
Speaker 1: and the baby was like bleeding and ship. So I
Speaker 1: was looking around and mind, You're wearing a mask and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see other people seeing what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1: So finally I found one black person okay, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know if he was black or not, but the
Speaker 1: hair was protruding through the mask, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's it. I had to go around the room and
Speaker 1: fucking tap this nick and I said excuse me, and
Speaker 1: he came down. I said, do you see what I say?
Speaker 1: If he starts laughing, he was like, yeah, they got
Speaker 1: a baby and ship I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I said, maybe he's had too, because I'm my eyes
Speaker 1: out and my nick is gone, so I can't confirm
Speaker 1: with him. Bitch. I walk over to somebody else and
Speaker 1: that somebody has a black mask on, so you're wearing
Speaker 1: a white mask, the black mask of the people that
Speaker 1: work there. They can help you whatever. I said, excuse me,
Speaker 1: I don't know who you are. I know you don't
Speaker 1: know who I am, but I just means you didn't know.
Speaker 1: I'm really high right now. And then the first thing
Speaker 1: he said, are you okay? I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: push through. But in my seeing what I'm seeing, is
Speaker 1: there really a dick out with chocolate laugh the hardest
Speaker 1: thought me. He's like, yes, it's really out. I said,
Speaker 1: oh my god. So I'm trying to take off the mask.
Speaker 1: They're like, no, no no, because they're gonna kick you out
Speaker 1: if you take the mash. Bitch. I fucking walk out
Speaker 1: of there. Right, there's people that haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: They're in line. I fucking pull off the mask. I'm slit, bitch.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wait, till y'all get in that
Speaker 1: motherfucker look for the pregnant bits and follow the pregnant
Speaker 1: bit because it comes out. Oh my god. Frateful was
Speaker 1: looking at me like this what. It was the weirdest
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. Then I come outside to my nigga, who's
Speaker 1: talking to security because he's just like, Yo, this is
Speaker 1: weird white people sitting for the only black people outside. Right,
Speaker 1: He's just like he's like, oh, what's that baby? I'm like, y'all,
Speaker 1: they was playing a techno baby came out. They chocolate
Speaker 1: on dick. It was crazy, and he looked at me like,
Speaker 1: bitch and this was my gift? Like anyway, it was great.
Speaker 1: It was great, great, great. And then we went to
Speaker 1: the box, which is a you know where the box is.
Speaker 1: I feel like you and um, you're happy, would love it.
Speaker 1: But it's like a avant garde show. Um you can
Speaker 1: call it a sex show, but they don't have sex
Speaker 1: where they just do this crazy stuff. Have you been yet?
Speaker 1: Uh no? Well the first thing I saw, also still
Speaker 1: on shrooms, was a woman who came out in late
Speaker 1: text and stuck her head inside of a balloon that
Speaker 1: just kept growing and growing and growing. And then I
Speaker 1: had to confirm again is that a balloon all on
Speaker 1: my trip? And They're like, no, what's on her head?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow, it's still fucking going. A rabbi
Speaker 1: came out with mazza. He was sucking throwing the mazza
Speaker 1: at people and then like had a wine bottle, stuck
Speaker 1: it up his ass, turned upside down and let the
Speaker 1: wine go in his ass and squirted it out. That
Speaker 1: was my Valentine's Day. And then I can't really be
Speaker 1: doing with some white people ship bro bro was crazy.
Speaker 1: But Ryan met up with me from pose. Ryan came through.
Speaker 1: Um so anyway, we're in the car home and I
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, what a great Valentine's Day, What a
Speaker 1: great Vantine' Day? Like I'm so any I want to
Speaker 1: find He's like, I don't know how I feel. He
Speaker 1: was just so crazy and like fun and like I
Speaker 1: fucking loved it. So ye go to the box and
Speaker 1: sleep no more. Yeah. Um, my Valentine's Day didn't involve
Speaker 1: really any partners. Um. I went to All Star weekend
Speaker 1: and for any of the followers who are new or
Speaker 1: found me and learned about me through horrible decisions. Um.
Speaker 1: Prior to the podcast, I'd spent five years of the
Speaker 1: sports blogger and since I was eleven, I played basketball,
Speaker 1: So through middle school, I did AU, I did inner merals,
Speaker 1: JV varsity, like literally played through my my college years
Speaker 1: except for my senior year because I was working. But yeah, anyways,
Speaker 1: the fourteen year old self in me was probably the
Speaker 1: most excited um ever. It was just it was a
Speaker 1: great experience. Um. I want to shout out to my
Speaker 1: friend Alexis and Marion. So everyone was like, oh, bit,
Speaker 1: you got fluid out. Who sponsored Joe trip? Nobody? Um,
Speaker 1: my friend works for the league and invited me out
Speaker 1: and wanted me to be her guests so to be
Speaker 1: able to go to the Skills Challenge and the All
Speaker 1: Star Game and then just to be able to party
Speaker 1: like the whole time with like all of these like legends.
Speaker 1: I got the invite to the Legends brunch, which was
Speaker 1: like beyond amazing, Like I'm in a room with Bill Russell,
Speaker 1: I'm in the room with you know, Magic Johnson and
Speaker 1: all of these legends. Um, they awarded Scottie Pippen. Um
Speaker 1: and this means probably a lot or means nothing to
Speaker 1: the girls listening to the podcast, maybe girls like you.
Speaker 1: I don't know who Bill Wrestles is. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: they know he rich girl. He just turned eighty seven. Um,
Speaker 1: but like to be in these rooms and these spaces. UM,
Speaker 1: I do also, UM want to give a shout out. No, no,
Speaker 1: it never does. Actually, UM, I want to give a
Speaker 1: shout out as well to Martin. Martin and used to
Speaker 1: um work with Wheezy and I. But he did an
Speaker 1: event for b Et Honey. Because show you Sharona's. They've
Speaker 1: been on these streets working. Look at me, put this
Speaker 1: camera in my face. This nigga was like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: When he met Sharona's, I thought they were just doing
Speaker 1: something like niggas, Oh yeah, let's link, let's work together.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you guys have to know each other. Whatever.
Speaker 1: Sharona did his little Danny's commercial. Yeah, okay, motherfucker hosted
Speaker 1: All Star Ship. What about games people play? What about
Speaker 1: the horrible decision? Nah? It was it was Um. He
Speaker 1: reached out to me to come because they did have
Speaker 1: like a podcast UM set up with Martell and b
Speaker 1: et Um and Kenyan Martin was in there. He has
Speaker 1: a new podcast coming out with Nick Storm. Nick Storm
Speaker 1: is a good friend of mine as well. It's called
Speaker 1: Neat and Unfiltered. And I got to sit there and
Speaker 1: watch them interview Jadakiss and Jadakiss has been a long
Speaker 1: time friend. So literally just like to go to all
Speaker 1: of these events. Um it was amazing. Um, Dwyane Wade
Speaker 1: through a UM like a a spades event. So you
Speaker 1: literally walk around the goddamn room and fucking James Harding
Speaker 1: and Russell Westbrook are playing against Like it was insane.
Speaker 1: You just don't even know, Like Jason Tatum and his
Speaker 1: dad are right there playing against someone who else was
Speaker 1: in there like fucking everybody. Oh my god. Um, Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert like so many of the All Stars when they're
Speaker 1: Dwyane Wade was like literally just walking around tapping people
Speaker 1: up and then for the patrons, Kevin from Greenleaf was
Speaker 1: in there, and so I walked up. That's why I
Speaker 1: was excited to go and walk up. So I didn't
Speaker 1: know me how TV shows get you, bro, So mind You,
Speaker 1: like I like James Hard and Russell Westbrook, like I
Speaker 1: know the athletes like I used to be in that space.
Speaker 1: I've been to the sp Awards, like, met a lot
Speaker 1: of these guys already. But me and my friend be
Speaker 1: She's like, that's Kevin, Like he keeps walking around, he
Speaker 1: got a little dimples. So I walked up to him,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like Kevin from green Leaf. I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed it on the show mind You. For whatever reason,
Speaker 1: he let me know that he's nothing like the Kevin
Speaker 1: that he portrays. Um because he is kind of like
Speaker 1: a nigga on the show who cheats on charity with
Speaker 1: a man and isn't comfortable with his sexuality. But um,
Speaker 1: he was super dope to see him. I literally did
Speaker 1: a whole um green Leaf episode on Patreon, so it
Speaker 1: was dope to see him in there. That was amazing,
Speaker 1: and honestly, yeah, it was literally the most amazing All
Speaker 1: Star experience I could have ever asked for I've been
Speaker 1: to All Star. Um, maybe this is maybe my fourth
Speaker 1: All Star I've been to, and I feel like it
Speaker 1: should be my lessons. I'm turning thirty this year. I'm like, oh, this,
Speaker 1: can I really still say I'm going to All Star
Speaker 1: and be excited about it? Set up this because I mean,
Speaker 1: even like the followers are just like, what's going on
Speaker 1: All Star? For I did? I think that All Star
Speaker 1: is definitely one of the weekends where you could go
Speaker 1: for a long time, only because people they go to
Speaker 1: Super Bowl weekend ship very rarely go to the game.
Speaker 1: But All Star has so many events, right, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you can't get it to even me and Benson we're
Speaker 1: talking about it. These events, like if you not plugged up,
Speaker 1: you're not getting into none of these events. You gotta
Speaker 1: go to the club and they're raping like regular people
Speaker 1: at the clubs, like the events I went to. If
Speaker 1: you were on any sort of publicist lists or knew
Speaker 1: these brands, you're not getting into the door to these
Speaker 1: open bar events. It's like it's hard as fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, like you could get into an event,
Speaker 1: so why not say I can't. Yeah, that's what But
Speaker 1: like what people that do like fashion week. If you're
Speaker 1: fucking plugged in the fashion way, why aren't you like ship?
Speaker 1: I totally fucking get it, like going to shows that
Speaker 1: is such a staple thing in the world, much like
Speaker 1: All Star Like, why not fucking go to fashion me forever?
Speaker 1: I think we have a thing where All Star weekend
Speaker 1: is associated with whole ship with true but like you
Speaker 1: can still fucking like other shit about it. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think for for me being someone who like grew
Speaker 1: up watching basketball, like literally I had Slam magazine covers
Speaker 1: like on my wall East Bay. I used to order
Speaker 1: all that ship and order my sneakers from East Bay
Speaker 1: back when that ship came out even Okay, so I
Speaker 1: don't know what that is, but I know what demo is.
Speaker 1: Look at remember, look at it and it just got
Speaker 1: down here bad. I mean, they had shoes, but baby fat.
Speaker 1: You're not getting baby fat out of East By Easy
Speaker 1: may have had baby fat, but I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe maybe Russell stons about some ads in
Speaker 1: that whole. I don't know. I don't know, bitch, because
Speaker 1: that was that magazine. Okay, but I was so happy,
Speaker 1: Like you don't understand like literally, like I was like
Speaker 1: looking at my friends, I'm like, I'm trying not to
Speaker 1: cry right now with you, but like it was like
Speaker 1: one of my best like like that I've had on
Speaker 1: a long time, and it was like my wheelhouse. But
Speaker 1: being with horrible decisions, like I've been completely like taken
Speaker 1: out of the sports space. Like I don't really talk
Speaker 1: about sports as much anymore. A lot of the like
Speaker 1: events and things that we go to have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with sports. We're so busy now we're on tour.
Speaker 1: Every time we've been in a goddamn city, I don't
Speaker 1: looked up NBA games. We miss it all the fucking time,
Speaker 1: either the niggas got in town or the games of
Speaker 1: the same night as our shows. So like I just
Speaker 1: haven't been able to be a part of it. So
Speaker 1: this weekend was just like and then to be able
Speaker 1: to see the Dunk Contest live, like I was just
Speaker 1: so happy it was it was, it was very exciting. Anyways,
Speaker 1: well I had to watch it, so I'm glad, but
Speaker 1: I'd be forgetting that like this nigga. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you know we're going out to night he was like,
Speaker 1: So I was like, it's Valentine's Day and he's like,
Speaker 1: it's not a fucking national holiday, my nigga like, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't care. I don't can't care, bitch.
Speaker 1: This is why I got to be gay again us
Speaker 1: because girls do girly stuff, but not like stud game.
Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't gonna hold you like bitch. Elizabeth Cambridge,
Speaker 1: that's who I was farting with all weekend. I don't know.
Speaker 1: She's six ft eight fucking gorgeous. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. Look up Eat Cambridge on
Speaker 1: UM on Instagram and let me tell you how big
Speaker 1: of a look. Oh my god. So listen, she comes
Speaker 1: into the room with me and my home girls because
Speaker 1: we have the same publis, and so she comes into
Speaker 1: the room and I just feel I need to tell
Speaker 1: her because if she goes in through her car, I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I just need to tell you. There's mad heart emojis
Speaker 1: under your pictures from me. I have set the jewel
Speaker 1: emoji and I am I'll be under your comments. Bitch.
Speaker 1: I just thought i'd let you know. She's very nice
Speaker 1: to meet you. She laughed, and then my friend was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she has a podcast. Called horrible decisions, and this bitch
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I've heard of it. That's
Speaker 1: all you all you need to say? Why you my friend?
Speaker 1: That is how she gotta. That's just you know, well
Speaker 1: look they're not together. No, mo, maybe that's her brother
Speaker 1: bit alex Lee. I don't know what you're gonna you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? She she just liked the fucking
Speaker 1: brain on my parade and I'm over here happy she
Speaker 1: knew about a podcast. She was smiling, what's the AFL
Speaker 1: player American? No, that's NFL. I mean what I mean,
Speaker 1: he ain't got no more? She what is that? So?
Speaker 1: Is that a renable Australia? So she's from there? I
Speaker 1: think no, maybe not, I don't know, but she says
Speaker 1: adds and I'm like, oh that's cute, like write your
Speaker 1: little exit. Um. Anyways, we're gonna get into our vanillaship.
Speaker 1: I'm super excited to bring this up. Our listeners sent
Speaker 1: it in and everyone kept tagging like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this made me think of Wheezy and added Wheezy literally
Speaker 1: all of last week. So h G t V features
Speaker 1: its first ever throuble on House Hunters Representation matters. The
Speaker 1: episode followed Ryan's Jelly on a quest to find their
Speaker 1: dream home UM titled Three is Not a Crowd in
Speaker 1: Colorado Springs. The episode followed the three on the questifying
Speaker 1: their dream house in Colorado. The trio wanted to find
Speaker 1: a new home that will accommodate their unique dynamic as
Speaker 1: well as provides space for Brian and Lorie's two children.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask you, Wheezy, and then I
Speaker 1: do want to ask you and um your relationship um
Speaker 1: with hubby, but Wheezy, when you were in your throuble, Um,
Speaker 1: I do want to ask, would you guys look for
Speaker 1: a three bedroom a one bedroom with a kid room,
Speaker 1: an office and on one bed do you' all sleep together?
Speaker 1: I believe this this, And we said a master bedroom
Speaker 1: like a guest room, like y'all could do a two
Speaker 1: bedroom with three people and together. I think we were
Speaker 1: talking about, well, everybody make good money. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. She has a great job, I make money.
Speaker 1: He makes great money. So like, no one was ever
Speaker 1: talking about goals that are unattainable. But we did say,
Speaker 1: like we definitely got had a guest room for like
Speaker 1: when someone getting on our nerves or and California. King
Speaker 1: was the thing we talked about. Oh for the bed, well,
Speaker 1: that would make so like the King bed. Luckily she
Speaker 1: had one. I have a queen. Um, and then like
Speaker 1: if we were ever vacation and like hotels have a king. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I realized, I was like, I even had a
Speaker 1: three stome in my bed recently and it's a queen.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, she can't say her Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: sleeping three people in a queen is not so Um.
Speaker 1: If you guys have not you know, picked up on
Speaker 1: the hints yet. This is the other half of King Noir,
Speaker 1: who you guys love so very much on this show,
Speaker 1: and the first time I had him on, I know
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about the dynamic of the relationship,
Speaker 1: but it was before the baby. Um, I believe the
Speaker 1: baby was on the way though this was Oh my god,
Speaker 1: maybe the baby was on the way. UM. I want
Speaker 1: to talk now about how do you guys? What relationship
Speaker 1: title or group would you guys fall under? Um, have
Speaker 1: you guys ever been in a throuble? Do you consider
Speaker 1: yourself Polly open swingers? What? What is the title for
Speaker 1: y'all's relationship? It really is all of the above. Oh wow, um,
Speaker 1: because sometimes we swing. We are definitely in an open relationship,
Speaker 1: and I do think that most of those relationships can
Speaker 1: fall under some form of open and um, he is polyamorous,
Speaker 1: so I consider myself to be a sexual opportunist. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's you know, if it's a good time and
Speaker 1: it meets my needs, I'm with it. I find that
Speaker 1: interesting because people always say things like when they're Polly,
Speaker 1: it's together, and you don't identify that way. So how
Speaker 1: does it work being Polly on one end but not
Speaker 1: the other? Because I assume Polly to be like having
Speaker 1: multiple relationships and kind of intertwining them. But I guess
Speaker 1: not it doesn't necessarily And I think sometimes that becomes
Speaker 1: problematic is that we have these very very tight ideas
Speaker 1: about what all of these things have to look like.
Speaker 1: So that way, when you get in them and you realize,
Speaker 1: you know, this aspect works for me, but this doesn't,
Speaker 1: then you feel like I'm not good at being polyamorous
Speaker 1: or I'm not good at being a swinger. And really
Speaker 1: it's like you could just adjust it to what works
Speaker 1: for y'all. You know, for us, when when we were pregnant, um,
Speaker 1: we weren't really seeing other partners. We were very focused
Speaker 1: on our you know primary Yeah, like we're about to
Speaker 1: bring in a new member to this family, Like, let's
Speaker 1: make sure our ship is all together, let's make sure
Speaker 1: the older girls are straight, you know, just the household,
Speaker 1: the family. Um, he's here now we used to him,
Speaker 1: so right now we opening things back up. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: we've we've thought about all kinds of different combinations that
Speaker 1: could possibly work. I have the two older older children
Speaker 1: from uh, you know, previous relationship, and King didn't have
Speaker 1: any biological children, and you know, I always knew like
Speaker 1: maybe he might want children down the line. Um, and
Speaker 1: I already knew he was Polly. So we even thought about,
Speaker 1: like maybe there will be a woman that you'll meet
Speaker 1: and you have children with, and I'll get to be
Speaker 1: a part of that with you the way that you've
Speaker 1: been supporting me with my children. And you're already getting
Speaker 1: into like some of the questions that I wanted to
Speaker 1: to ask in the wh that is. But also, um,
Speaker 1: I've never looked at it in the way you're looking
Speaker 1: at it. Um. So for someone who I think swinging
Speaker 1: would work for me? Again, I really I recently said
Speaker 1: My issue is I don't see many relationships that I've
Speaker 1: ever envied or that I want to emulate, or that
Speaker 1: I don't know what a relationship really ideally would look
Speaker 1: like for me. Um. But knowing that I do want
Speaker 1: that open space, but there's still are boundaries that I
Speaker 1: would have. UM. I think it's interesting that you said
Speaker 1: that he's Polly, but I'm not because I did always
Speaker 1: think that if I were to get into a relationship,
Speaker 1: his views would have to align with mine and we
Speaker 1: have to be exactly on the same page. We just
Speaker 1: got to respect each other. And can I ask one question?
Speaker 1: I know, UM, some of you guys don't know, but
Speaker 1: we started late because of some audio issues. I do
Speaker 1: have to leave. But I have a main question for you.
Speaker 1: I've been non monogamous for like the last two and
Speaker 1: two and a half years, probably actually maybe since we started,
Speaker 1: probably three years. But like managing jealousy, right, there's moments
Speaker 1: where like I feel no, and and then it will
Speaker 1: come and then I've heard had some criticism from friends
Speaker 1: like oh, it's not for you, right, because I've had
Speaker 1: those moments of jealousy. And I'm curious to know if
Speaker 1: you know someone who seems you have such a big
Speaker 1: level of commitment with him and strong ties. How do
Speaker 1: you manage jealousy and has it stopped or when does
Speaker 1: it come up? Do you notice? So that's a great
Speaker 1: question and it will always be there. The same people
Speaker 1: who tell you that your relationships are not for you
Speaker 1: because you get jealous, tell them to apply that same
Speaker 1: thing to them in their monogamous relationship. We get jealous
Speaker 1: and monogamous relationships also, we get jealous in our friendships.
Speaker 1: You're like, bait, you went to go see Make Death
Speaker 1: without me or Valentine's Day you went to All Star
Speaker 1: Weekend with you know what I mean. So, jealousy is
Speaker 1: a is an emotion. If we can actually accept that
Speaker 1: we get jealous all the time, then we're able to
Speaker 1: accept a little bit more in our relationships. We realize like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's not because we're polly or because we're opener, because
Speaker 1: we're swinging. It's because I feel insecure in this moment,
Speaker 1: or I feel left out, you know, Or he didn't
Speaker 1: take out the trash before he went to go have
Speaker 1: dinner with so and so. Was he so excited that
Speaker 1: you know, he's not meeting the needs of the householders,
Speaker 1: you know, some things like that. So I don't try
Speaker 1: to get over jealousy. I tried to sit with it.
Speaker 1: Why what's making me jealous? I hate it. I want
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, go have fun. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna be here with the kids watching.
Speaker 1: You know. I genuinely mean it when I say that,
Speaker 1: Like I don't want monogamy because I feel like it's stifling.
Speaker 1: Maybe not at this point in time because it's a
Speaker 1: new love, like right, we've been dating like almost a year,
Speaker 1: But I feel like I mean it when I say
Speaker 1: I want you to be happy. I mean it when
Speaker 1: I want you to go out and other girls because
Speaker 1: I do. But if we talk about it, I'm generally happy.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear about it because I know he's
Speaker 1: excited tell me. And there's this weird moment after I'm like,
Speaker 1: why don't you just want to call me? Is it?
Speaker 1: Why don't you want to? It's weird? And sometimes I
Speaker 1: feel like that insecurity. Am I ever going to get
Speaker 1: over that hump? Or am I really being serious when
Speaker 1: I say it's a weird thing I'm going through? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean it is. I think about how long we've
Speaker 1: been we've been raised in program to be a particular way,
Speaker 1: So it's like we're challenging our own natural emotions on
Speaker 1: top of the messaging that we've been hearing for you
Speaker 1: know whatever, twenty plus years. You're supposed to grow up,
Speaker 1: go to school, get a good job, marry one person,
Speaker 1: love them until you die, and then anything that's out
Speaker 1: of that sort. You start a question like like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe this isn't for me. Maybe you know, maybe I
Speaker 1: didn't make the right move. How do you make sure
Speaker 1: that your things? Does king have to do to make
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable? Yes? So for us, jell And you ask,
Speaker 1: you know, when do I realize jealousy for me when
Speaker 1: we're not spending a lot of time with one another.
Speaker 1: If we're spending like if we've been seeing each other
Speaker 1: every single day and we've gonna get like like about
Speaker 1: three weeks, it is probably our max. And then with
Speaker 1: each other every day. Yeah, somebody needs to go out
Speaker 1: of town for work, you know, just because we just
Speaker 1: start like living on top of each other, then I'm
Speaker 1: usually good. You know, he'd be like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: going out to l A. I'm probably gonna link up
Speaker 1: with so and so. I'm going to New York. I'm
Speaker 1: probably gonna link up with so and so. That's cool.
Speaker 1: You got in your city. I mean, it would be
Speaker 1: nice if we could find someone a date in our city.
Speaker 1: But things are a little different because of the type
Speaker 1: of work that we do and because you know, we
Speaker 1: we have a family in our household, and you know,
Speaker 1: they go to school in our community. So it's a
Speaker 1: little bit difficult to date in our community. But for
Speaker 1: the most part, I mean, he's gone on a couple
Speaker 1: of dates locally and it's it's fine, But it's when
Speaker 1: we've been away from each other for like two or
Speaker 1: three weeks and then and now you go, Okay, you
Speaker 1: you're about to come home in a week, but you
Speaker 1: mean you're going on a date, Like you can't just
Speaker 1: wait until you get home, you know. So it really
Speaker 1: has a lot to do with how much time we're
Speaker 1: spending with each other. Um other things is how I
Speaker 1: feel about my self. I know, when my self esteem
Speaker 1: for you know, that week before your period rights stage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't there yet. I don't want nobody around me normally,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even want company. I get I get
Speaker 1: just really agitated. I literally just want to be by myself.
Speaker 1: Even with my friends, like they'll know during that time
Speaker 1: of week, but even if I'm dating, I'll be like
Speaker 1: not not today. Just see. I should be more like that.
Speaker 1: I should say I need space, but instead I'm like,
Speaker 1: but where are you? You know? Um? So sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just that it's UM me being aware
Speaker 1: of where I'm at in my life, what's going on
Speaker 1: with me, and then articulating what I need from him.
Speaker 1: So my question to you, A lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of um our audience is also trying to find what
Speaker 1: works for them relationship wise. UM. We've had a ton
Speaker 1: of letters writing in saying that their partner doesn't please them,
Speaker 1: but they don't want to cheat. UM, what y'all are
Speaker 1: doing and the way that your relationship is set up,
Speaker 1: you don't view any any of his other partners as
Speaker 1: him cheating because you guys are open with it. Correct,
Speaker 1: as long as we share with each other, UM, you
Speaker 1: know our intentions, right we have. We finally got to
Speaker 1: a point where it's like, if he's not gonna lead
Speaker 1: to anything, Seriously, I don't need to know about every
Speaker 1: single person you're flirting with. Okay, that's agree. Um. We
Speaker 1: also have like a don't let me be the last
Speaker 1: person in the room to know. Don't have me walk
Speaker 1: up in a horrible decision. No, no, no, UM we
Speaker 1: know because I see, UM, I don't know how you
Speaker 1: handle that. Cisth um literally like everything. But I'm really
Speaker 1: big with I don't want anyone on the podcast that
Speaker 1: I've had relationships with. Um Weeie and I have gone
Speaker 1: back and forth with that quite a few times because
Speaker 1: she wants to bring her ex's on and talk across
Speaker 1: with them, and and I'm just like, well, I won't
Speaker 1: be here, like I don't want to involve myself in
Speaker 1: whatever turmoil she's with. Our partners were at glad of
Speaker 1: issue with Love a Girl? Were you around here and
Speaker 1: love a Girl? She threatened to sue us child like
Speaker 1: a whole lot of fucking bullshit. But I just know
Speaker 1: that once you take it, their emotions are just more
Speaker 1: and so anyone who has been on the podcast. I
Speaker 1: have a nigga right now that I'm talking to. He's like,
Speaker 1: when I'm gonna be on the podcast? I said, we
Speaker 1: don't already. Fun guess you're not coming on. I said,
Speaker 1: you can't come on now we didn't already have a sex.
Speaker 1: You can't on the show. You can't suck your way
Speaker 1: on the show, not with me, not gonna happen me.
Speaker 1: I'm here on my own marriage, Like, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: hold you. That's why I wanted to dinner on the show.
Speaker 1: And now no, let me let me keep him off
Speaker 1: of it. Actually I want because I'm still trying to
Speaker 1: shoot my shot over there. I goddamn. Now, I'm very
Speaker 1: big with not mixing business and pleasure. Um, it's why
Speaker 1: for like all of the things that I do behind
Speaker 1: the scenes with horrible decisions, like anyone that we've ever
Speaker 1: done work with, like, I want people to see me.
Speaker 1: I'm very stern, very strong, very mean. I even have
Speaker 1: to tell the people like that I work with sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I'm coming off a certain way, but
Speaker 1: I don't ever want to mix. So yeah, no, never
Speaker 1: did that. Don't worry. No, you're not walking into don't know. Um.
Speaker 1: But but like you know, that's that's something for us.
Speaker 1: It's huge, it's huge, and we've actually had the conversation.
Speaker 1: UM as far as if you smashed a friend, um,
Speaker 1: letting your person you know, your partner know as much
Speaker 1: as it may be uncomfortable to let him know before
Speaker 1: the front lets him absolutely So at what I guess,
Speaker 1: did you grow up in the kink space to where
Speaker 1: this was comfortable for you? How did you know that
Speaker 1: this is how you wanted to have relationship? Again, some
Speaker 1: of our listeners are in their thirties and just now
Speaker 1: realizing like, maybe monogamy isn't for me. Um, what conversations
Speaker 1: did you have to have with yourself and how did
Speaker 1: you open your mind into the kink space the way
Speaker 1: that you have? So? I was raised a good Catholic
Speaker 1: girl and all right in the first generation from the
Speaker 1: Philippines and Panama, grew up right in the forties projects
Speaker 1: of far rockaway queens, moved down to Miami with those
Speaker 1: same good values. Oh Miami turned you out? Okay, say less? Uh,
Speaker 1: it was when I got when I got around years old. Um,
Speaker 1: it's I remember going to drop my my daughter off
Speaker 1: at school and somebody was like, hi, Mommy's mom and
Speaker 1: I was like, what, Like, that's my name? Now? He
Speaker 1: didn't like that I became somebody's mom as my first name.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why, but that kind of is
Speaker 1: set off something in me, like what do you like
Speaker 1: to do? Who are you? Um? I don't remember having
Speaker 1: done anything. And like at that point ten years that
Speaker 1: was really based on something that I thought was like interesting, cool,
Speaker 1: or exciting for me. There was a lot of building
Speaker 1: of and raising children that was happening, but there was
Speaker 1: no really like personal personal development. At that same time,
Speaker 1: I was doing a radio show, The Emotion Picture with
Speaker 1: my brother um who's still supporting me even here tonight,
Speaker 1: and UM we were asking we were asking each other
Speaker 1: really crazy questions based on the topics, and it was
Speaker 1: like like things about polyamory and threesomes and all these
Speaker 1: different sexual and relationship experiences and questions, and it was
Speaker 1: challenging me two really like you know, have you lived yet?
Speaker 1: And why are you so conservative? Who? Who put this
Speaker 1: in you know, in your head? So the conversation that
Speaker 1: I that I really did have with myself is who
Speaker 1: gave you these messages? And like when you start looking
Speaker 1: at the people as an adult, when you start looking
Speaker 1: at the people who put things that you live by
Speaker 1: in your head and you see how the motherfucker's are
Speaker 1: living today, it's like that's who I'm listening to and
Speaker 1: why Because either I'm gonna turn out like them, or
Speaker 1: I just can't like this is this is not a
Speaker 1: model This is not a model citizen even for me,
Speaker 1: right and I want to say not even that monogamy
Speaker 1: is a bad thing, UM, but I know that with
Speaker 1: with you know, the conversations that I've had on this
Speaker 1: UM show the people that I'm meeting being more in
Speaker 1: this space. UM. A lot of the people that are
Speaker 1: in monogamous relationships I find to be not only not
Speaker 1: truthful to their partners, but not truthful to themselves because
Speaker 1: it's just the ideals around monogamy or that it's one person,
Speaker 1: one love, you have sex with one person. Even looking
Speaker 1: at someone else is considered you know what what is it? Um?
Speaker 1: Not um? When you covet yeah, you know? And so
Speaker 1: everything about everyone that I know to be in monogamous
Speaker 1: relationships spend more time defending their relationship than actually having it,
Speaker 1: or they're constantly looking for something for the person to
Speaker 1: be doing something wrong, because as we know, nobody is perfect,
Speaker 1: and so it's like there's more time spent on seeing
Speaker 1: what is that person doing when I'm not around. Let
Speaker 1: me go through his phone, let me go through the laptop,
Speaker 1: let me see this person and a lie because all
Speaker 1: people lie. He can't be this perfect and and so
Speaker 1: like in the conversations, everything you've said has been so beautiful.
Speaker 1: When King Noir came in here and spoke on your
Speaker 1: relationship and and how you guys grow in the communication
Speaker 1: and just the respect for each other. Um, I'm glad
Speaker 1: that we could have these conversations for our audience, specifically
Speaker 1: for people of color who often grow up in the church. Um.
Speaker 1: And right now we're having, you know, just all the
Speaker 1: backlash even just with um, the Dwayne Wade situation with
Speaker 1: you know, um Zaiah, I think is what she wants
Speaker 1: to be called, like coming out and just saying I
Speaker 1: want to be identified as a girl daddy. That is
Speaker 1: how I live my life and just seeing how many
Speaker 1: people are uncomfortable with it. Um, so I wanted to
Speaker 1: get so. We have a segment on the show called
Speaker 1: a Hord derv. The Horde derv is a sex tip
Speaker 1: And to me, I know that you probably have a
Speaker 1: ton because you guys do fetish training, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to you. King Noir talked a little bit
Speaker 1: about what he does. I know he specializes in flogging.
Speaker 1: I've seen you as well with the flogging. But could
Speaker 1: you give some sex tips that you give um during
Speaker 1: your fetish training and also explain to us what your
Speaker 1: role is in the fetish training because you guys do
Speaker 1: it together sometimes I see, well, yes, so can you
Speaker 1: get into that and your role as a woman and
Speaker 1: what tips you give to women entering entering into those
Speaker 1: training sessions. Um. So, one of my favorite things to
Speaker 1: focus on is psychological domination. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of um, there's a lot of focus on like what
Speaker 1: tools should I use? What you know, all of these
Speaker 1: that that can take you a while to learn, you know,
Speaker 1: and to We went to my sex sungine together. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he told you the last time he
Speaker 1: was here and this sextungine, I'm waiting to get um
Speaker 1: the master of the sex Engine on the show. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. I was good. I love her. I got
Speaker 1: her number and we went to this and it's so
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let you get back. But I never
Speaker 1: got to share the sex eungine experience. But the fact
Speaker 1: that he went in there because he's like, I'm not
Speaker 1: comfortable with using certain of these toys and I want
Speaker 1: to be sure I don't hurt anyone. I want to
Speaker 1: be sure that when I'm teaching people how to use them,
Speaker 1: because there's some heavy, high quality. They extended me on
Speaker 1: like this thing and they put like leather straps around
Speaker 1: my thighs because you know, I'm a little thick. I
Speaker 1: was like, um, maybe not the rope, sweet get the
Speaker 1: love they get the hardest is that hold me up
Speaker 1: by Yeah? But it was just so incredible to see
Speaker 1: that even he takes the time to just learn, knowing
Speaker 1: that he's also a teacher. Um. So I appreciated that
Speaker 1: as well. But yeah, it was super fun. I was
Speaker 1: grateful that he allowed me like just I was like,
Speaker 1: it doesn't notice. Um but okay, so psychological domination talked
Speaker 1: to me. So what could you do without using a rope? Harness,
Speaker 1: without using your hands? Okay, so I'll be I fucking
Speaker 1: But that's only like if we're at dinner or in
Speaker 1: a club, Like once you catch eyes with someone for
Speaker 1: a good amount of time, like it allows it lets
Speaker 1: them know that you're interested. Um, I would say when
Speaker 1: I dominate people, I'm I'm vocal, Okay, so I do
Speaker 1: use my voice. Um, that's good, that's excellent. Outside of
Speaker 1: that girl I ain't got no special powers. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me. I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: an exercise please, Okay. So let's yeah, we'll use this one.
Speaker 1: So let's just imagine. I'm um, I'm on the West coast,
Speaker 1: You're on the East coast. Okay, and we're that's too
Speaker 1: far girl. Okay, we're having a pseudo you and I
Speaker 1: right now, a pseudo dum sub relationship. Let's just okay whatever,
Speaker 1: And UM, I help my my partners, well my couples,
Speaker 1: learn how to connect when they're not even with each
Speaker 1: other because a lot of times, you know, people say,
Speaker 1: we don't have time for for play for you know,
Speaker 1: we worked so much, we worked these different shifts, or
Speaker 1: she lived here and I lived there, And that's real.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's the world that we live in.
Speaker 1: You know. Um, women aren't staying at home waiting for
Speaker 1: their husbands to come in, you know, they're not they're
Speaker 1: working now, exacting. So how can you stay engaged? How
Speaker 1: can you add fetish play kink without even being able
Speaker 1: to see each other? So, UM, I do the little
Speaker 1: things like you know, go on FaceTime middle of the
Speaker 1: day or something like that. UM, ask them what how
Speaker 1: they're doing at work? You know, it's like I'm doing okay, cool?
Speaker 1: Maybe have a task for them. So with something that
Speaker 1: you're working on right now, a project you've been prepared.
Speaker 1: Oh I have another podcast coming out, but it's far Yeah,
Speaker 1: just scheduling to get into the studio. UM, so yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the project all right. So you're gonna be a
Speaker 1: bad girl right now. Okay, okay, okay. So I'm gonna say, hey,
Speaker 1: many how are you? I'm good? Sup? Um, thanks for
Speaker 1: taking a couple of minutes away from work to talk
Speaker 1: with me. I wanted to check in with you for
Speaker 1: a second. How is scheduling going? It's insane. I have
Speaker 1: the tour, I have all of these things going on.
Speaker 1: So are you telling me that you haven't done what
Speaker 1: you were supposed to do? Oh? See, this is already
Speaker 1: turning me out, y'all. Hear this, yeah, hear this. No,
Speaker 1: But I'm going to get to it, like I I. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's okay. UM. I kind of knew you would say that,
Speaker 1: and if I were there, I'd be able to punish
Speaker 1: you appropriately. But since I'm not, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: do it. Yourself, Mandy, So go ahead and walk out
Speaker 1: your office. Go to that bathroom that's right around the corner.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I'll watch walk with me. Take the phone. Okay,
Speaker 1: she walking out. Okay, she in the bathroom right around
Speaker 1: the corner. For the thing going that stall. Put your
Speaker 1: hands out, Mandy. Okay, how many um, how many studios
Speaker 1: were you supposed to schedule this week to two episodes?
Speaker 1: To spank your hands twice? Now? You know how you
Speaker 1: doing little harder than that? You know, I want to
Speaker 1: break I gotta show coming up or something like that,
Speaker 1: and probably not your hands, but you know, put your
Speaker 1: pants down. Go ahead and spank yourself twice. You know.
Speaker 1: It's crazy though to think that I've done this. But
Speaker 1: so the guy that I pegged, we haven't paid, like,
Speaker 1: we haven't had that interaction in quite some time, and
Speaker 1: he misses like he wants to do that again, and
Speaker 1: most recently and I probably like he's so bad, but
Speaker 1: some most recently he'll call me when he goes to work,
Speaker 1: and because it's the West Coast, it's like ten am
Speaker 1: for me, seven am for him, and he's on his
Speaker 1: way to work, and we were talking about the things
Speaker 1: that we wanted to do. And so when he got
Speaker 1: to his work parking lot, he played with he fingered
Speaker 1: his ass in his car for me and set me
Speaker 1: a video of it because I was like, well, you
Speaker 1: haven't set me that, so I and of course all
Speaker 1: of my friends are like, girl, how the hell you beginning,
Speaker 1: motherfucker to do this, but I didn't, Like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just talked to them. But it is a psychological
Speaker 1: domination or something like that. With him would be you know, um,
Speaker 1: this week, you're gonna wear that anal plug to work
Speaker 1: for the rest of the week. Yeah, Like and and
Speaker 1: he'll do like when he's at a stoplight, Like he'll
Speaker 1: send me a video of him jacking his dick. And
Speaker 1: he really likes how his work pants feel on his
Speaker 1: on him, so like that becomes the whole conversation when
Speaker 1: he's at work and I've gotten him to do things
Speaker 1: in his office and things like that. So and I
Speaker 1: actually used to do this with Lawyer Vey a lot. Um.
Speaker 1: He would go into the stalls at work and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, well, I want to see and this is
Speaker 1: all of me sending him old videos or if if
Speaker 1: I you know, I wasn't in class and I was
Speaker 1: at home waiting to go to school. I could sell
Speaker 1: himself while he was at work. So this is really
Speaker 1: interest thing. And I think a lot of like the
Speaker 1: women listening who want to maybe switch rolls. Maybe when
Speaker 1: they're more of a sub role in the bedroom, this
Speaker 1: could be how they dom outside of the bedroom. I
Speaker 1: mean my sub she lives in in Philly. I think, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I would love to bring her.
Speaker 1: I just maybe want. First off, she's beautiful, she's freaking beautiful. Um,
Speaker 1: but the submissive level that she's on I've never seen
Speaker 1: and I and the whole time, I guess and she
Speaker 1: was called a service sub. He referred to her as
Speaker 1: a service Yeah, and I was just like, she was everything.
Speaker 1: Here's here's your water, are you thirsty? Like just being
Speaker 1: so very attentive. She's well trained and so you guys
Speaker 1: trained her as your sub. This is her first dominant
Speaker 1: dom sub relationship. Wow. So if a woman were to
Speaker 1: come to you and say, hey, I really want to
Speaker 1: sub because I feel like that's what would arouse me
Speaker 1: the most. What are some of the first questions you
Speaker 1: would ask her to make sure that that's something that
Speaker 1: would be for her sen your resume okay, professional resume,
Speaker 1: not your you know, not your whole resume. Wait wait
Speaker 1: wait you asking what does that matter? What someone? I
Speaker 1: want to know what your time, talent, and finances are, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I mean, anyone suck a dig for the most part,
Speaker 1: and I don't have a dick, so that doesn't help
Speaker 1: me at all. Everybody always comes like I can suck
Speaker 1: dick so good. I want to be yourself, Like, how
Speaker 1: does that help me? That doesn't help you at all? No,
Speaker 1: not a mother for work, like right, and I don't
Speaker 1: know who's sucking it because so I got the dial
Speaker 1: do too, and my my, my mouth didn't even go
Speaker 1: past the head. I said, I would be incompetent as
Speaker 1: fuck putting this in my God, and I'd like to
Speaker 1: think I am a great aid dick sucker you but yeah,
Speaker 1: but not with that thing. I was just like, nig
Speaker 1: here you go, you get a hand jut. You know
Speaker 1: what that's that's one of the drawbacks of having a
Speaker 1: big day. Does your jaw stretch from sucking? Like you
Speaker 1: know how yours? I mean, like your pussy gets used
Speaker 1: to big dicks, But does your mouth work the same
Speaker 1: to you? You know, and this is I'm sure it's science.
Speaker 1: I don't we just get really know what we ain't cool,
Speaker 1: don't do this. We're not gonna do this, and that's
Speaker 1: what we're not gonna do. I'm just like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if the mouth stretches the same as a vagina,
Speaker 1: it's not. We're getting cool positions. And you know, I
Speaker 1: just learned other things that he likes. Okay, I can
Speaker 1: dig that. I can dig that. So I wanted to
Speaker 1: actually talk to you UM again. We mentioned the baby,
Speaker 1: we mentioned your relationship. UM. I did want to get
Speaker 1: into sorry, UM, non monogamous consequences UM, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to talk to you about the boundaries
Speaker 1: that are set because especially which is now amazing. I
Speaker 1: didn't know you identified as almost all of the ethical
Speaker 1: nonmonogamy titles UM. But I wanted to talk about the
Speaker 1: boundaries that you UM set. Also how it is dating
Speaker 1: while being in sex work UM. And then I just
Speaker 1: had a couple what if questions and how you would
Speaker 1: handle those being in the relationship that you're in now. UM.
Speaker 1: So I think you did mention some of the boundary
Speaker 1: What are the boundaries UM, or do you suck them.
Speaker 1: You guys seem really like respectable, Like are their boundaries
Speaker 1: that are set? And the main thing is letting each
Speaker 1: other know. You know, there there are some people that
Speaker 1: UM that he's either dated or wanted to day and
Speaker 1: I've just been like like, nah, don't do that because
Speaker 1: like she's stepped to me sideways or you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, UM, or you know, like if you just
Speaker 1: didn't get a good vibe where I realized, like I
Speaker 1: don't really think that he cares for this person. It's
Speaker 1: like why try to bring that person into not necessarily
Speaker 1: into our relationship, but still like bringing someone into my
Speaker 1: life is still bringing someone into our life, right, So UM,
Speaker 1: it is important that whoever we deal with not not
Speaker 1: only that we communicate with each other, but that we
Speaker 1: are communicating with that other person and they understand what
Speaker 1: our relationship is like, so there's no there's no confusion,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's part of our responsibility. Well, it's funny.
Speaker 1: We we had this conversation UM as well, like and
Speaker 1: this is probably after the first UM episode that he did,
Speaker 1: and I was like just questioning as well as the
Speaker 1: dynamic and how it works. And maybe it's more so
Speaker 1: me being wanting to feel in control. But I told him,
Speaker 1: I was like, I know, Jasmine is you're primary. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I could ever go into something knowing
Speaker 1: that I'm under another woman. Um do the other women
Speaker 1: that that deal with him? Do you know if that's
Speaker 1: a feeling, um, that that you come first? Really? Because
Speaker 1: I know a lot of women do want to feel
Speaker 1: like their first. Um. But in that dynamic and a
Speaker 1: lot a lot of these there is a primary, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is. And I think the best setup is when
Speaker 1: when our secondary partner has their own primary partner, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think that tends to work
Speaker 1: the best. Or if they are uniquely submissive, you know,
Speaker 1: so being or feeling second or whatever anything, but being
Speaker 1: in the primary doesn't have that same kind of pressure
Speaker 1: or you know, um other than that, Like for us,
Speaker 1: our boundaries changed, like we continuously talk about them. With
Speaker 1: the baby, it was a little bit different when it
Speaker 1: came to work. It's like, it's work, so I don't
Speaker 1: get to go like, well, you know, um, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pick who you're gonna start with with that company. Like,
Speaker 1: but for our company, we we handle that like a
Speaker 1: business decision. It's not like I don't want you fucking
Speaker 1: that girl because I feel jealous. Is like, no, like
Speaker 1: is this gonna sell right when it comes to work?
Speaker 1: Is just like we make sure that person not racist
Speaker 1: to talk reckless then you know, and they got a
Speaker 1: clean test or whatever, of course. Um. But other than that,
Speaker 1: we try really hard to keep it open and fluid,
Speaker 1: because when you have rules that are so rigid, you
Speaker 1: find yourself being like, oh, I should have created a
Speaker 1: rule for that rule I forgot, you know. And it
Speaker 1: hasn't always been easy. They have been times where I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I need to know like a week
Speaker 1: before and you know, right, because yeah, we even talked
Speaker 1: about that, like the rules and boundaries that you would
Speaker 1: even set in a threesome, like you know you like,
Speaker 1: um And I can't remember the guest that we had
Speaker 1: on but she remembered or no, actually should it was me? Um,
Speaker 1: I had a threesome with one of my friends and
Speaker 1: her partner and I completely didn't have the conversation as
Speaker 1: if if kissing was too much, and I didn't have
Speaker 1: the conversation with what really their boundaries were. Um. And
Speaker 1: so I know that that's something for me like that
Speaker 1: I would have but also I know, like right now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would want to know it
Speaker 1: all UM. To me, it's more so about like, you know,
Speaker 1: don't have a baby, don't like you know, don't bring
Speaker 1: nothing back to me, don't have a woman, also questioning
Speaker 1: my position with you. So I wanted to ask. I asked,
Speaker 1: I have three questions you already kind of mentioned UM again,
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring up UM. This is something recent.
Speaker 1: So UM the rapper of the baby and his baby
Speaker 1: mom are currently expecting a child. However, she just went
Speaker 1: on a complete um posting screenshots and everything else because
Speaker 1: she found out that he is expecting another baby with
Speaker 1: another woman. However, when their relationship with like when we
Speaker 1: all started finding out who she was, she did do
Speaker 1: an interview and was like, me and him are single,
Speaker 1: but that's still my boo. So I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about even the I guess lack of communication or ideal
Speaker 1: that we are someone's primary but we expect from them,
Speaker 1: but we know that titles suck. But so that made
Speaker 1: me come to this question, So, how would you handle
Speaker 1: UM being in the non monogamous relationship that you are,
Speaker 1: and how would you handle King coming to you and
Speaker 1: saying Hey, I got someone else pregnant, especially after you
Speaker 1: too just now started a new family together. What would
Speaker 1: that conversation be like? And is there a way to
Speaker 1: prevent that from happening? Oh? Yeah, there's like well, you know,
Speaker 1: I think about that more often than than people probably think,
Speaker 1: because of the type of work that we do, more
Speaker 1: than his personal sex. Um. You know, I've I've dated him.
Speaker 1: I know what his personal sex is like. He is
Speaker 1: very good about using protection, you know. So that's that's
Speaker 1: one that's important. But the work that we do is
Speaker 1: not it's not protected most of the time. So I
Speaker 1: do think, like, and those girls aren't on birth control? Well,
Speaker 1: that's not a question that we generally act. So porn
Speaker 1: porn performers usually do what they're supposed to do to
Speaker 1: protect their you know, protect themselves from becoming pregnant. Um.
Speaker 1: Most are very responsible because this is this is our work.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't most people are not going to
Speaker 1: make money if they're constantly having babies, right. So um,
Speaker 1: but I do think, like, what if somebody forgot to
Speaker 1: take their pill right or um, what if she thought
Speaker 1: she was not able to have children and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden she can uh and you know, that would
Speaker 1: be a consequence of the work that we do. So
Speaker 1: that's not something that I could see myself being like,
Speaker 1: how do you not know? So you don't feel like
Speaker 1: it's a consequence as far as in your personal arrangement
Speaker 1: with allowing him to others, I mean, as long as
Speaker 1: you're would condoms would So there's a two percent chance.
Speaker 1: You know, I trust him to use a condom, right,
Speaker 1: And I also know that I can trust the condom
Speaker 1: to do his job up to a certain percentage. So
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I would probably be upset because
Speaker 1: this isn't something that we plan um when we were
Speaker 1: talking about expanding our family, and it may not be
Speaker 1: through my body and maybe through him in another relationship.
Speaker 1: You know, we had the conversation. So it's not a
Speaker 1: foreign thought for him to have a child with another woman,
Speaker 1: but an unexpected situation, it would feel like an unexpected situation.
Speaker 1: Would it feel like cheating? No? Right, I know that
Speaker 1: that's also been um, not only with what happened with
Speaker 1: the baby, but um. Dwyane Wade just recently came out
Speaker 1: with a documentary where he and Gabrielle Union opened up
Speaker 1: about the break baby that happened. Um, they're both you know,
Speaker 1: UM aligned with that they weren't technically together at the
Speaker 1: time that it happened. But I know again in the
Speaker 1: space when you do allow your partner to go out
Speaker 1: and have other partners, that these are things that you
Speaker 1: hope doesn't doesn't happen. But I don't think we've had
Speaker 1: the conversation. And of course I wish Weasy was here
Speaker 1: as well, because you know and I know that UM
Speaker 1: last episode or a few episodes ago, she was just like, well,
Speaker 1: I wasn't in town, so I told him go out
Speaker 1: and have fun and so but I I just don't
Speaker 1: know how those conversations would be if you're letting him
Speaker 1: have this fun and then he brings that back home.
Speaker 1: Another question that I had is how would you handle
Speaker 1: or if it's a conversation about your partner telling you
Speaker 1: that he loves another woman. UM. And I know again
Speaker 1: you're super open and free with this, but to me, UM,
Speaker 1: my idea of open relationships is why I would see
Speaker 1: you're clear of this. I want to me, I know
Speaker 1: that you could have emotionless sex and if it's cheating,
Speaker 1: I want you to, you know, go out and have
Speaker 1: if you if you want to have sex, I don't
Speaker 1: want to feel like I'm tying you down. Of course,
Speaker 1: do it responsibly. UM. But my fear is the idea
Speaker 1: of you sharing like strong feelings and an emotional connection
Speaker 1: to someone else. UM. What is the conversation that you
Speaker 1: have in regarding that and are you find do you
Speaker 1: feel like someone can fully you know, have all of
Speaker 1: those feelings for multiple women? I do, UM, I feel
Speaker 1: like and and knowing him by the time he got
Speaker 1: to a position of loving someone, then they're already like
Speaker 1: I've already accepted the idea of them being in our
Speaker 1: life for a long long time. You know, they're the
Speaker 1: women that he has stated that. You know, he's really
Speaker 1: liked them and they really liked him. And by no
Speaker 1: means do I approve a relationship. I share my thoughts
Speaker 1: on it. I share how UM, I think this person
Speaker 1: will compliment him, will compliment us, I share what I
Speaker 1: don't like. I mean, I'd be putting it off, and
Speaker 1: you know that's a decision for him to make. So
Speaker 1: if I could see, like, this person seems like they're
Speaker 1: a good fit. They've been around, they're doing things together.
Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about her, I talked to her.
Speaker 1: I could see that, you know, I know he's lovable,
Speaker 1: you know, and and he is starting to voice everyone
Speaker 1: fell in love with him on the show, So I
Speaker 1: would already I would expect that to happen. Now. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Unfortunately a lot of these relationships haven't, you know,
Speaker 1: they haven't made their way to the point of love.
Speaker 1: But once I thought that they were getting serious, I've
Speaker 1: definitely put in my mind, like, Okay, what would that
Speaker 1: be like if you know, she moved closer to Florida
Speaker 1: or you know, so I don't know, it doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: And as far as um a man or anybody being
Speaker 1: able to love multiple people, the way that we look
Speaker 1: at it is like we could think of hundreds of
Speaker 1: people that we love, what of all different types of relationships.
Speaker 1: And I don't say like, nah, you can't love your
Speaker 1: your best friend like me, you know, or you got
Speaker 1: love for your cousin, Nah, love for me. So there's
Speaker 1: no way that I can limit his love or even
Speaker 1: look at it from that way. Um. I do understand
Speaker 1: where people want to have like a certain type and
Speaker 1: a certain intimacy, but the love that he and I have,
Speaker 1: he can't have that with you because you know me
Speaker 1: right right right, So it doesn't like I don't. I
Speaker 1: just can't think about it that way. If he said
Speaker 1: I love her, I would like, Okay, you love her
Speaker 1: for her, like you don't love her because she's like me,
Speaker 1: or I have nothing to do with that really, right.
Speaker 1: So I So the home mail question that I have
Speaker 1: for this episode, it's coming from me, UM, and it's
Speaker 1: because I've been talking a lot about relationships on Instagram
Speaker 1: Live UM again meet with the idea of what I
Speaker 1: would want UM not being as controlling, you know, because
Speaker 1: I would let the person do what they want. But
Speaker 1: a lot of times the men I've gotten kicked back
Speaker 1: from the men in my life as well as the women, saying, well,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't let a guy know upfront that he can
Speaker 1: go out and have sex with other people. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: let a guy know upfront, UM, that you're okay with
Speaker 1: this happening, or that you would allow this or you know.
Speaker 1: So my question to you is being in the space
Speaker 1: where I do want to date UM, and I am
Speaker 1: looking for a partner that would accept you know. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't even know where what I would define it
Speaker 1: as UM. How do I open up and say like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to be with you, but you can also
Speaker 1: you know, do what you want. But I want something
Speaker 1: real with it not sounding like a situation ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because I think that that's um
Speaker 1: where I don't know, like I feel like I've been
Speaker 1: where I knew you was doing what she was doing.
Speaker 1: I personally don't want to know the girls. I don't
Speaker 1: want them coming to me. I don't care about them.
Speaker 1: Like again, like I'm hoping you're responsible. I don't want
Speaker 1: to know anything about what you guys do, but I
Speaker 1: do want to build a relationship. And I just feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of men are saying that if I'm
Speaker 1: allowing them that freedom, that I won't hold that title.
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, I don't. I don't agree with those men. Um,
Speaker 1: but again, you know, that might be their thing for
Speaker 1: their for them and their relations it for me, I
Speaker 1: think what I had to to make very clear is
Speaker 1: um at the time that we met, a lot of
Speaker 1: guys were saying to me because I was doing like
Speaker 1: these um sex toy parties and all that time, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: soon you're gonna slowed it, like you'll you'll you'll want
Speaker 1: to slow down soon enough. We get that about the podcast,
Speaker 1: Like even about us coming on here talking and sharing
Speaker 1: our stories, they say the same thing like even either, ay,
Speaker 1: we're not datable right now because of the podcast, um
Speaker 1: that we say wild stuff. Um of course even in dating,
Speaker 1: Like one of the first questions that I get is
Speaker 1: are you going to share this on your show? Like,
Speaker 1: so it's a it's a lot right now with dating
Speaker 1: because of the show and us being in the sex space. Um,
Speaker 1: but also because we are fairly young. With these non
Speaker 1: monogamous ideals, I'm finding it hard now to say them
Speaker 1: without seeming like I just want a situation ship, but
Speaker 1: that I want more. Well, I think the more the
Speaker 1: more you define what it is that you want, or
Speaker 1: even what you're trying to figure out, which is going
Speaker 1: to explore and judging their reaction. If their reaction doesn't
Speaker 1: go I want to help you want to stand that,
Speaker 1: or that's interesting, or I want to stick around to
Speaker 1: figure out what that might look like. Then they're not
Speaker 1: for you, you know what, Like let me be easy
Speaker 1: for you. So a king, I was like, listen, I
Speaker 1: don't want to settle down. I like what I do
Speaker 1: you know? I like that you got this kind of
Speaker 1: like crazy edgy thing going on. I wanted us to
Speaker 1: make money together, you know, but I want you to
Speaker 1: still do the freaky ship because I got the kids.
Speaker 1: That helps. I need to hear about some of your
Speaker 1: freaky ship because I can't okay you. And then when
Speaker 1: we started to get a little bit more serious, I
Speaker 1: was like, these are the needs that I need met
Speaker 1: for me, Like this makes me feel like I'm in
Speaker 1: the kind of relationship I want to be in. And
Speaker 1: as long as those needs are met in your spare time,
Speaker 1: you can do those other things that meet your needs.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to be responsible for meeting all
Speaker 1: of your Oh I do not. I like that, And
Speaker 1: he was he's okay, he has been okay that that
Speaker 1: has still maintained been a main thing for us. He
Speaker 1: said that on the very first episode that I had
Speaker 1: of him, and he's um and and we had the conversation.
Speaker 1: He's like, because I think I started the episode with
Speaker 1: a pretty Ricky song and he was like, what the
Speaker 1: funk are you playing? And so his example was like,
Speaker 1: if I'm with a partner or or like my partner
Speaker 1: wants to go and see pretty Ricky, that's not something
Speaker 1: that would make me happy. But I don't want to
Speaker 1: keep her from happiness. So if she wants to go
Speaker 1: and enjoy Pretty Ricky with another guy, if I really
Speaker 1: love my partner, I want her to be happy, why
Speaker 1: would I not let her go see the Pretty Ricky concert. Look,
Speaker 1: I know why you and King are friends. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. You know, you know he would be like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: I'm texted with Mandy Dad And I was like, thank god,
Speaker 1: because I don't care about All Star Weekend in that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, I know. Look, I know you
Speaker 1: were like, girl, why are you still talking about this?
Speaker 1: I know our listeners were like, so this is a
Speaker 1: basketball podcast. Now I'm happy about your level of excitement,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, but like y'all could
Speaker 1: talk about stats and basketball yeah and bullshit. Um he
Speaker 1: sends music, he um, he um asks me like my
Speaker 1: thoughts on his scenes, especially too, because he's had bigger
Speaker 1: women on this scenes. He's had just a lot of
Speaker 1: different things. Um. Actually, ship I got He's supposed to
Speaker 1: be letting me direct one Um what next week or
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, And so I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I've never really held a camera, but I know the
Speaker 1: angles that I like enjoying. So he's like, yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about like where we should you know, put the
Speaker 1: camera and stuff like that, but I just enjoyed too,
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of things that, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: understand about what you guys relationship is. And that's why
Speaker 1: every time he's come on and I've asked questions of
Speaker 1: how it works. Um hearing also from the woman's side,
Speaker 1: which is why everyone was like, y'all need jazz on
Speaker 1: the show? Why isn't Jasmine been on the show? But
Speaker 1: I love that pretty much You're saying, which I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people listening have picked up on it too,
Speaker 1: is you know what your needs are and he meets
Speaker 1: those and that's all you need for your relationship. And
Speaker 1: I think that that's what we I guess we seek
Speaker 1: people to normally be everything, and it's it's also like
Speaker 1: not realistic. Yeah, that's why you're always looking to see
Speaker 1: like you know, right, or wanting more because your your
Speaker 1: your goal is impossible, you know. So look, let me
Speaker 1: tell you what else I outsourced anal sex. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do that. I know you don't. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do I wouldn't want to do it with
Speaker 1: that either. I don't think it's possible to say. He
Speaker 1: didn't say he's had anal sex before. And I said, how,
Speaker 1: oh plenty, How what assholes are those taking in? Bro? Like,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna end up gifting this um and I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what live show yet, only to somebody who
Speaker 1: can take in there like you. I'm not giving it
Speaker 1: to someone who cannot take this thing. So King noir
Speaker 1: Um has a mold. And it's funny because I got
Speaker 1: this when I came into the studio like last week,
Speaker 1: and I was like, nigga nah, And he sent it
Speaker 1: with his next to it, and I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: His looks bigger than this because he was hyped to
Speaker 1: send my pictures like but even down to the vein.
Speaker 1: So guys, if y'all were like, I'm like, how does
Speaker 1: yours look bigger than this? I said, oh nah, bro,
Speaker 1: like good good root time we've tried, you know sex,
Speaker 1: we get like that much tion, right, And but in
Speaker 1: my mind I'm way back and I'd be like, so
Speaker 1: then I go, how did I do? He was like, yes,
Speaker 1: you know what, You're gonna somebody else? So the guy
Speaker 1: that I just had perpendicular sex with I kept telling him.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I wanted in my butt. I
Speaker 1: wanted in my butt, but y'all know. So I have
Speaker 1: a joke that I only do know once a quarter.
Speaker 1: But I haven't done anal because I cut off. I
Speaker 1: cut him off in October, so it's been almost six
Speaker 1: months since I've had anal. So the last time I
Speaker 1: was with him, I was like, you can do it,
Speaker 1: and girl, it was not going in it. It ain't
Speaker 1: just half the size of this, but it's big and
Speaker 1: it wouldn't get there. And we started with the toy.
Speaker 1: I had my butt plug my toy, went through the
Speaker 1: whole emotions, and he was like, I knew you wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna be able to take it. He told me he
Speaker 1: wants to do it. He's only had anal sex one
Speaker 1: time in high school and the girl blood. So he's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm hurting, you know, I just haven't
Speaker 1: wanted to try it. So I'm gonna hopefully try it again.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know when I see him again, but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: not doing it. So you outsode, you say, listen, king,
Speaker 1: if you want to have anal sex, go So ladies
Speaker 1: for y'all answering the questions or or sending in the
Speaker 1: questions for homemail about your partners wanting to do threesomes,
Speaker 1: are wanting to do things that you know you're not
Speaker 1: comfortable with. Um, would you call it a hall pass
Speaker 1: for maybe the people who are in these type of
Speaker 1: monogamous relationships, because I do like, again the idea of
Speaker 1: keeping your partner happy and not making them feel prisoner
Speaker 1: in their relationship right or within themselves. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: just let's think about it outside of sex, because when
Speaker 1: when we say sex, like all these extra things come about.
Speaker 1: But you know, if um, I don't like I don't
Speaker 1: like Chinese food, okay, and he does, imagine me being like,
Speaker 1: but I don't like Chinese food. So that's it. You
Speaker 1: can't eat Chinese food. You are the rest of your
Speaker 1: as long as we're as long as we're together. That
Speaker 1: seems so unfair, but but because because it really is right,
Speaker 1: you know, it really is how much emphasis and value
Speaker 1: we've placed on things that at the end of the
Speaker 1: day really don't hold that much weight. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He we're neither of each other's first sexual
Speaker 1: experience and we're not going to be each other's last. Okay, boom,
Speaker 1: Now that that's out of the way, let's like live
Speaker 1: this great life together. And that's that's so amazing. So
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of things like I have a male
Speaker 1: submissive that lets me put dicks in his ass, you know,
Speaker 1: because I don't like it to mind, but I think
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool to pay. King's not gonna let me
Speaker 1: do that. He's very dominant, like to where even we've
Speaker 1: had conversations, I was like, oh, yeah, you're not like
Speaker 1: none of the things out and ever like you two
Speaker 1: down even watching the videos, like he's just he's so manly,
Speaker 1: like everything mainly possible. So if I if I want
Speaker 1: to be on a body that's a little bit, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get that out of him. So
Speaker 1: what if he said like, no, you can never not
Speaker 1: even you can never dumb me, you can't dumb anyone else.
Speaker 1: I would be like, Okay, well that's a whole side
Speaker 1: of myself. I'll just go ahead and shut off until forever. Right.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's it's not realistic. But also why so
Speaker 1: many people in these relationships are like I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: cheat or and you know, for all the fellows listening,
Speaker 1: y'all know we do it better. So just so you know,
Speaker 1: don't tell us no because uh, look your brothers, you know,
Speaker 1: you know we kind of cheat better, right, Like women
Speaker 1: are way better cheaters, were more detail oriented, and nine
Speaker 1: times out of ten it will be to find what
Speaker 1: we are lacking in you. Especially. The problem is a
Speaker 1: lot of times women will communicate what they want and
Speaker 1: a man just doesn't fold. On the other end, when
Speaker 1: a man says this is what I want or else,
Speaker 1: we kind of feel the need like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is our only way to keep him. And so
Speaker 1: there's just a different level in exchange in relationships. And
Speaker 1: also I don't want to say respect, but just bending programming,
Speaker 1: make the bullshit that he will still leave you for us.
Speaker 1: They'll have a baby on you with and you know,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's it's crazy, the idea of well,
Speaker 1: if I do this, he'll stay, If I do this,
Speaker 1: it'll keep him. Um. And I think it's also funny,
Speaker 1: like you know, we talked about Halle Berry getting cheated on.
Speaker 1: Beyonce probably be cheated on like I cheated on listen.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be high to come and attack me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to just we're gonna say
Speaker 1: there was some feelings there. Um, but like if those
Speaker 1: women who we put at this high you know esteem,
Speaker 1: can be cheated on and probably doing everything right, live
Speaker 1: up to things that maybe we don't even see, like
Speaker 1: you nothing to do with them. It has to do
Speaker 1: with that that other person being able to respect the
Speaker 1: commitment they made, you know what I'm saying, Like we
Speaker 1: always look at the person that got cheated on, like
Speaker 1: what did you do wrong? Like, no, you didn't do
Speaker 1: anything wrong. The fucking cheater did something wrong, right, you know?
Speaker 1: So y'all what I tell you, don't come woman a
Speaker 1: woman to no woman. No, you better go to your
Speaker 1: man or you. But that's the thing too, if they're
Speaker 1: coming to another woman about their man, they're not gonna leave.
Speaker 1: They're just they're just notifying the other woman, which just
Speaker 1: recently happened to me. And again y'all heard the snippet
Speaker 1: from the bonus episode on the last episode, Um, it
Speaker 1: was just like, girl, but you also know the man
Speaker 1: that you're with, and everything that you're telling me is
Speaker 1: pretty much what I said in that Like, you know,
Speaker 1: King you know who you're with, you know what he likes,
Speaker 1: you know, um, what you're capable of giving him as
Speaker 1: far as yourself, and you're not gonna try to be
Speaker 1: anyone different than that to fulfill anything else, and you're
Speaker 1: allowing him to be the person who he is. I
Speaker 1: really like everything you said, and now I need to
Speaker 1: go find my lover, my partner, my man. And I
Speaker 1: know you guys are listening to this episode, probably questioning
Speaker 1: your relationship if it's not going well, questioning yourself as
Speaker 1: far as, um, what you truly want and what will
Speaker 1: truly make you happy? Um Again, I'm entering I'll be
Speaker 1: thirty this year, so it's also something to where I've
Speaker 1: been battling because of course we all still have this
Speaker 1: pressure with getting into our thirties, and I have. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've been in situation ships, I've been with lovers that
Speaker 1: I would claim as my ex is. But as far
Speaker 1: as having a real true adult relationship, UM with a
Speaker 1: man where both of us communicated our titles with each other,
Speaker 1: that hasn't really been you know there. So with me
Speaker 1: looking to have that within the next year or so,
Speaker 1: this conversation was everything I needed. I'm gonna listen back
Speaker 1: to this episode and listen back to everything you said. Um.
Speaker 1: But also if anyone's into fettish training seeing you live,
Speaker 1: um perform, watch your videos, um anything, can you please
Speaker 1: drop where everyone can find you? Um, and we'll also
Speaker 1: put it in the description of this episode. Okay, cool.
Speaker 1: You can find everything at jet setting Jasmine dot com.
Speaker 1: There you go and and boom right there, and then
Speaker 1: also jet Setting Jasmine on Instagram as well, like socials
Speaker 1: will be there. Um, you guys can see her. I'm
Speaker 1: sure if any of you guys listened, y'all see why
Speaker 1: you two are together. Because the way you, you know,
Speaker 1: just literally just speak on on almost your existence is
Speaker 1: the same as him sitting across from us, just speaking
Speaker 1: into the love that you guys have for each other. Um.
Speaker 1: But I think you guys know yourselves more than a
Speaker 1: lot of people. And like I say, um too, and
Speaker 1: I say this all the time before we get out
Speaker 1: of here. Um, you can't expect anyone to give you happiness.
Speaker 1: If you're not happy with yourself, you can't expect anyone
Speaker 1: to give you an orgasm. If you don't know how
Speaker 1: to give yourself an orgasm, you can't expect anyone else
Speaker 1: to please you in ways and know you if you
Speaker 1: don't know yourself. Um, and that's been a lot of
Speaker 1: what I've been dealing with myself, UM recently, just trying
Speaker 1: to figure out exactly what I want and how to
Speaker 1: tell a person this is what makes me happy. Um,
Speaker 1: you're gonna take this, this podcast, and you're gonna send
Speaker 1: it to that person this episode listen from from beginning
Speaker 1: to end. And and if you if you can ride
Speaker 1: with what we talked about, or if you're even open
Speaker 1: to having a discussion about so, then let's meet for dinner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really like that. But also just and again, UM,
Speaker 1: I guess before we get out here, can I ask
Speaker 1: you one more question? So a lot of the times,
Speaker 1: especially because I only do deal with black men, but
Speaker 1: even in this in the kink space, going to hedonism,
Speaker 1: going to the sex clubs, UM, I do find it
Speaker 1: still to be almost taboo for black men to allow
Speaker 1: their partners to be with other men. So how was
Speaker 1: that conversation with with King? And and what advice would
Speaker 1: you give? Is that just not the nigger for me?
Speaker 1: If he if he wouldn't allow me to also have
Speaker 1: another man or you know, how do you bring up
Speaker 1: that conversation? Um, I mean, I definitely think that we
Speaker 1: have issues around ownership of our black bodies for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's something that like, you know,
Speaker 1: other people, not white people in this country and across
Speaker 1: the world, have had ownership of our black bodies, and
Speaker 1: then that mentality has stuck, and then it transferred its
Speaker 1: way into the leaders of our household having ownership of
Speaker 1: and we see it of we see our black men
Speaker 1: owning their moms, owning their daughters, their baby moms, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and and so on and so forth.
Speaker 1: So I do think that's a lot of work that
Speaker 1: we have to do to deconstruct, you know, that idea
Speaker 1: of ownership, especially of black women's bodies. And I think
Speaker 1: it's important for women to understand that mentality exists and
Speaker 1: it's not love. You know, that fritnership is not like
Speaker 1: oh he is not he don't play with me like that,
Speaker 1: Like no, you know, he's putting restrictions and limitations on you.
Speaker 1: So really ask yourself if this is something that's important
Speaker 1: to you, and this is something that you really want
Speaker 1: to do, then have a serious conversation, um, and not
Speaker 1: just like you know, like you stop tripping, Like no, really,
Speaker 1: I would really like to have sex with another partner,
Speaker 1: And you know, it kind of bothers me that we
Speaker 1: can't get past this. And if he's not willing to
Speaker 1: have that conversation, he is still operating from a colonized
Speaker 1: um mentality that needs to be broken down far before
Speaker 1: y'all go to he though you know she needs to go.
Speaker 1: You need a deeper level of work there. So you know,
Speaker 1: I haven't had that experience um with King, but I
Speaker 1: have dated someone that was like, yeah, we can have
Speaker 1: like all the threesomes only with women, and it's just
Speaker 1: like even it's as as someone who's bisexual. I'll have
Speaker 1: threesomes from time to time, but that's not ideal. I
Speaker 1: would prefer a woman just with a woman, and a
Speaker 1: man just with a man, or a multiple man maybe,
Speaker 1: but like I like the anatomy of a woman just
Speaker 1: by itself and the intimacy that comes with being with
Speaker 1: a woman, and then it's completely different um sexually that
Speaker 1: I have my interaction with with men, and so I
Speaker 1: actually like to keep those separate. But as soon as
Speaker 1: they find out I like women, it's like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have who we are have women all the time,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, no, I didn't really want you
Speaker 1: can have one like I. You know, I was dealing
Speaker 1: with seven for seven years. We had two two or
Speaker 1: threesomes in seven years. And I picked the girls. They
Speaker 1: were my friends. Um, they're still my friends. Uh, but
Speaker 1: you know because I picked them, you know, and they
Speaker 1: enjoyed themselves and we had a great time and you know. Um,
Speaker 1: but no again, I want to thank you guys. Check
Speaker 1: out jet Setting Jasmine dot com. Um, you guys can
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Speaker 1: guys want to learn more about you know, um jet
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Speaker 1: have yet to announce New Orleans and Vegas. Listen, I
Speaker 1: ain't even gonna hold you. It ain't me. It's listen,
Speaker 1: it ain't me. Just know that y'all at my comments
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Speaker 1: my ass off to try to see if we can
Speaker 1: get something during essence UM in New Orleans. But we
Speaker 1: do in New Orleans this year. Just know it ain't me,
Speaker 1: God damn it. We're working on it. Um. Vegas as well.
Speaker 1: It's just venues. It's timing. It's a lot coming up,
Speaker 1: especially with the holidays in the summer, but we're still
Speaker 1: working on it. If you're sick of waiting. Um again,
Speaker 1: we have Charlotte. Um. Oh wait, well this week coming up,
Speaker 1: we have Charlotte. Well now that's next week. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: My calendar is a all fus up. So we have
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Speaker 1: We have Atlanta on the March. By the way, if
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Speaker 1: That's that Horrible Decisions that com UM. And yeah, y'all know,
Speaker 1: funk with me. I got some new stuff coming out
Speaker 1: with you have a lot of stuff coming out. I'm
Speaker 1: just excited that you guys have a lot of this
Speaker 1: space to bring on people like Jasmine to explain and look,
Speaker 1: I'm learning with you guys. So again, I hope you
Speaker 1: guys enjoyed this week's episode. UM. And again, this has
Speaker 1: been yet another episode of horrible Decisions by six. This
Speaker 1: is okay. Let me read the slow. If you were
Speaker 1: able to live to the age of ninety and retained
Speaker 1: either the mind of a third year old for the
Speaker 1: last sixty years of your life, the mind or body?
Speaker 1: Which would you want? If you're ninety years old, you
Speaker 1: want the mind or the body of a third year old.
Speaker 1: The body. Can you imagine how you'll sound? She findest
Speaker 1: fun like I don't care. Like even when I was
Speaker 1: like in my in my early twenties, I always had
Speaker 1: an old soul. Niggas thought I was older all the time.
Speaker 1: I'mould pick the same. I'm my body, nig I'll be
Speaker 1: fucking seven. Do you have a secret hunch about how
Speaker 1: you'll die? I don't think about that. I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna die on a I do not think about um.
Speaker 1: It's so weird because honestly, I have a little flashes.
Speaker 1: But it's weird because when I'm in a car, when
Speaker 1: I'm with somebody like I won't to me honestly, it's
Speaker 1: why I don't I all hop out of my friend
Speaker 1: believe that your date death day is like already written. No,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think about that, and I honestly
Speaker 1: want to get off this conversation. Well, I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die doing something adventurous, like I think the
Speaker 1: scariest way for me to die, in my opinion, would
Speaker 1: be like drowning. I'm terrified of that. It almost happened
Speaker 1: to me once. There was like someone I was playing
Speaker 1: that chicken game whatever, what's it called when you're on
Speaker 1: someone's shoulders. Oh, well, she didn't realize that I was
Speaker 1: so deep under and I couldn't get up, and then
Speaker 1: her legs were wrapping around my neck. And I remember
Speaker 1: that feeling of almost passing out and drowning, and I
Speaker 1: would never want that to happen. But I do think
Speaker 1: when I die, I don't think about it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like bungee to the next question number eight. Three things
Speaker 1: you and your partner appear to have in common? So
Speaker 1: you can answer this me and you. This is I
Speaker 1: want to say thirty six questions to love each other? Um,
Speaker 1: what do we have in common? I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: People listen to us, and I think now that we're
Speaker 1: three years in, they realized we don't have much in
Speaker 1: common outside of love to travel. We both love to
Speaker 1: suck dick, and we we both get our hair done with.
Speaker 1: We've we both love to travel, we both love we
Speaker 1: both love our friends a lot. We love our friends.
Speaker 1: We both like ethnic foods. I was gonna say we
Speaker 1: both like bougie things, but I lowis bitten across and
Speaker 1: you see I got a very very jacket. But this
Speaker 1: is just now like things that I couldn't afford um
Speaker 1: and I also used to. So the niggas i've when
Speaker 1: I talk about sugar daddies and stuff like that, all
Speaker 1: of the men that I've dealt with are those that
Speaker 1: won't buy me. They would never they would never buy
Speaker 1: me tangible things. They would buy me things for school,
Speaker 1: they would pay for my bills, they would do things
Speaker 1: for my livelihood, but they're they're not materialistic niggas. So
Speaker 1: now that you know, they know I really don't need
Speaker 1: that money that way, if I do ask for something,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh I want this, and they're okay, Like
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on these wire celshos right now. So it's yes,
Speaker 1: the pump that's my Valentine's list. That's literally what I'm getting. Well,
Speaker 1: it's crazy because so they have a boot version and
Speaker 1: open til versions and pumpers. So the boots are seventred
Speaker 1: the and the other two are. So I was like,
Speaker 1: the boot is seasonal, open toe was also seasonal, because
Speaker 1: we live, I said, the pump I could wear a
Speaker 1: year round. I would get in shoes by the way.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, but see even my even even on Louis,
Speaker 1: it's on like, um combat boots they said are uncomfortable
Speaker 1: for me for those and yeah, those just like listen,
Speaker 1: that's what I want. I know that you like ship
Speaker 1: like this, but that's kind of tacky. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's not tacky. He's like, listen, it's too over the top.
Speaker 1: He's like it's not. Then you can dress it down,
Speaker 1: but you can wear that with cargo pants. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why you feel like it's too much.
Speaker 1: He was like, I think it's too showy. He was like,
Speaker 1: I'll get you some while I sell ship, but it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be all over it. And I'm like they're
Speaker 1: just body standing that. I'm not gonna lie like I'm
Speaker 1: one of those that didn't grow up with money. I
Speaker 1: don't have family members that have money, and to me,
Speaker 1: I don't believe in spending so much money on something.
Speaker 1: So I was talking to my homeboy about it, and
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, if I'm gonna buy something,
Speaker 1: the monogram is gonna be only because they're gonna know
Speaker 1: if it costs to a hundred and they're gonna because
Speaker 1: they gonna see it. I don't want just a leather
Speaker 1: for black leathers. Felt like the y s l like
Speaker 1: he'll was tasteful and not that much. And he's like no,
Speaker 1: he was like real, NS know when you have a
Speaker 1: certain kind of time. I'm like, well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know a bitch with I walked down the
Speaker 1: street with Well, actually the way saw does have the
Speaker 1: very round front with a certain kind of thing. But anyway, Okay.
Speaker 1: Nine is for what in your life do you feel
Speaker 1: most grateful? Ten? If you could change anything about the
Speaker 1: your raised, what would be Eleven Tell take four minutes
Speaker 1: and tell your partner your life story and as much
Speaker 1: detail as possible. I think that's a good one too. Um.
Speaker 1: If you could wake up tomorrow morning having gained one
Speaker 1: quality or ability, what would it be.