WEBVTT - The Circuit City Story Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Get in tech with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland, and today we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>begin to talk about a company that played a part

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<v Speaker 1>in getting consumer technology to the consumer, Circuit City. So

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<v Speaker 1>Circuit City is best known for being a big box

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<v Speaker 1>electronics retail store that had some pretty dramatic ups and downs.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot to this story. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a two parter. But before I get into

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<v Speaker 1>the details, let's talk about why I'm covering this story

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<v Speaker 1>at all. It's because of a little listener mail. This

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<v Speaker 1>listener mail comes from Kevin, who says, I really enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>your shows that trace the history of tech companies. I

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<v Speaker 1>just finished catching up on the Sony episodes. Actually I

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<v Speaker 1>was hoping you'd consider doing a similar treatment of Circuit

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<v Speaker 1>City sometime. I feel like that was a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of tech in the eighties in nineties, and it's where

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<v Speaker 1>I got my first computer and my first stereo. I

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<v Speaker 1>always thought the store was really cool as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>darkly lit, red dion, those glass rooms for checking out

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<v Speaker 1>sound systems. Anyway, thanks for listening and keep up the

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<v Speaker 1>great work. With the podcast. Well, thanks for those kind words, Kevin.

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<v Speaker 1>The Circuit City story is interesting because the chain originated

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<v Speaker 1>the concept of the electronics box store. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was a store that sold electronic boxes, although

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<v Speaker 1>I guess technically it did, but that's not what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was a box store like Best Buy

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<v Speaker 1>is today. In fact, best buying Circuit City heaven interesting

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<v Speaker 1>relationship or did at any rate. Circuit City was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of best Buy before there was a Best Buy now.

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<v Speaker 1>The company was incredibly successful for many years. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of only a dozen or so companies

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<v Speaker 1>to outperform the Fortune five hundred by at least three

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<v Speaker 1>times for fifteen years. I mean by a factor of right,

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<v Speaker 1>by multiplying by three for fifteen years. But eventually those

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<v Speaker 1>good times ended and the company kind of imploded and

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<v Speaker 1>went bankrupt in two thousand nine. And today it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very different story from its heyday. Before I get into

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<v Speaker 1>the story at all, I want to recommend a book

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone who wants to learn more about this company

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<v Speaker 1>and what happened to it and the management practices that

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<v Speaker 1>were involved at all stages. It was written by Alan Wurtzel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually the son of one of the co founders

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<v Speaker 1>of Circuit City. He wrote a book titled Good Too

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<v Speaker 1>Great To Gone, The sixty year Rise and Fall of

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<v Speaker 1>Circuit City, and you can read a lot more about

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<v Speaker 1>the company in that book. If this podcast wets your

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<v Speaker 1>whistle at Wortzel, by the way, admits that he's not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly an unbiased reporter, but also he holds himself accountable

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<v Speaker 1>to examine the mistakes that he he credits to himself,

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<v Speaker 1>also to his father and others in the company, and

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<v Speaker 1>the book is an easy and interesting read on the

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<v Speaker 1>subject of business practice is So, we're gonna talk a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about business practices and how it relates to the

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<v Speaker 1>operation of an electronics store, and not so much about

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<v Speaker 1>the tech side of things, because Circuit City was a

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<v Speaker 1>retail establishment. They didn't create electronics, they sold them, but

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<v Speaker 1>they did play a very big role in the tech

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<v Speaker 1>world for many years. So now on with the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and our story begins in Sea Bright, New Jersey, on

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<v Speaker 1>March second, nineteen o seven. That's when Samuel S. Wertzel

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<v Speaker 1>was born. His mother, Flora, was originally from Russia. She

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<v Speaker 1>moved to the United States in her early twenties and

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<v Speaker 1>she ended up opening up a grocery store. Um. She

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<v Speaker 1>actually did that after she divorced Samuel's father. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an arranged marriage and it did not work out, which

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<v Speaker 1>meant that Flora ended up raising Samuel and his siblings

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<v Speaker 1>by herself. That was four kids in total. Samuel had

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<v Speaker 1>two sisters and a brother. So she had very high

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<v Speaker 1>hopes for her children and demanded that they study hard

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<v Speaker 1>in school. And she managed to get some help from

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<v Speaker 1>her parents to open up the grocery store and was

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<v Speaker 1>able to eke out a living that way. Now, Samuel

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<v Speaker 1>went to night school to study accounting after a fairly

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<v Speaker 1>tumultuous high school phase in which he was, according to

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<v Speaker 1>his son quote often a discipline problem end quote. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Alan attributes this primarily to the fact that Samuel didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a father figure for his childhood. Uh and so

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up acting out quite a bit, and once

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<v Speaker 1>he started to mature, he began to really apply himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He was charismatic and he turned out to have an

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<v Speaker 1>aptitude for business. He and his older brother first opened

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<v Speaker 1>up a wholesale butter and egg business, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>way every tech retail esta establishment gets its start by

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<v Speaker 1>selling butter and eggs um. His estranged father actually worked

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<v Speaker 1>in that business too, and they ended up having a

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<v Speaker 1>working relationship, although not a familial one, and that ended

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<v Speaker 1>up not working out either. He then went on to

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<v Speaker 1>work for a company called June Dairy, but this was

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<v Speaker 1>also during the time of the Great Depression UH, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was not able to hold onto that job for long.

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<v Speaker 1>He was actually laid off, so he then moved on

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<v Speaker 1>and from nineteen thirty eight through nineteen forty seven he

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<v Speaker 1>worked for a company called Packing Products UH. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was a company that was actually created by his father

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<v Speaker 1>in law. And a family vacation in nineteen forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>would change his destiny, and that is the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>Circuit City. Now I'm going to jump into that in

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<v Speaker 1>a second, but first I want to give you a

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<v Speaker 1>little more information about his family because they played a

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<v Speaker 1>very important role in the evolution of Circuit City. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, Samuel married a woman named Ruth Mann in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty two. He had met her in nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one and a year later they got married. Now, Ruth

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<v Speaker 1>came from an upper class background, very different from Samuel.

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<v Speaker 1>She was also a college educated woman, which was not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily common at that time in the United States. Her father,

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<v Speaker 1>Leon was in the clothing manufacturing business and was really successful,

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<v Speaker 1>and later he became an entrepreneur who funded the efforts

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<v Speaker 1>of various inventors and engineers. One of those inventors had

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<v Speaker 1>created a packaging material for eggs so that they could

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<v Speaker 1>be shipped without the risk of breakage, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>reducing that risk. There was actually a different invention that

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<v Speaker 1>was already patented in the United States, or that one

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<v Speaker 1>a patent in the United States, and so Leon ended

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<v Speaker 1>up convincing the inventor to give up the patent rights

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<v Speaker 1>in the US and concentrate on a market in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's when he created this company packing Products. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Leon and Samuel got along great. Leon instilled in Samuel

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<v Speaker 1>two qualities he thought were important in business and beyond,

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<v Speaker 1>which were humor and humility. From Alan's perspective, reflecting back

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<v Speaker 1>on the stories of his father and his grandfather, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds as though Samuel saw in Leon a father figure

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<v Speaker 1>he had lacked in childhood, and Leon in turn treated

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel as his own son. Because Leon didn't have any sons,

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<v Speaker 1>He had a daughter named Ruth. Samuel and Ruth however,

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<v Speaker 1>did have sons, two of them, Alan and David. Alan

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<v Speaker 1>Wurzel would go on with Samuel to create the Circuit

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<v Speaker 1>City Empire. But even empires have humble beginnings, which brings

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<v Speaker 1>us back to that family vacation I mentioned. So Samuel

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<v Speaker 1>and Ruth were going on a golfing vacation with their

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<v Speaker 1>family in order to clear their heads and plan for

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<v Speaker 1>the future. This was a and things had suddenly kind

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<v Speaker 1>of turned south for the couple financially. The Packing Products

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<v Speaker 1>company had transitioned into a broker company. Now, a broker

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<v Speaker 1>company doesn't hold its own inventory. Typically, what a broker

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<v Speaker 1>company does is they get in the business of matching

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<v Speaker 1>buyers with sellers. The idea was that the company would

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<v Speaker 1>find someone wanting to purchase a particular commodity, then they

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<v Speaker 1>would find a seller who was going to sell that commodity,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would match the two together, making some money

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of this. And it may even be

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<v Speaker 1>that the company buys the commodity from one entity, sells

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<v Speaker 1>it at a mark up to another entity, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you make your profit. But someone at the Packing

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<v Speaker 1>Products Company made a really bad decision. They ended up

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<v Speaker 1>buying a large amount of steel without first securing a customer. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, no one had said that they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to buy steal. But apparently this person at Parker Products

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<v Speaker 1>felt that the steel being sold was at a price

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<v Speaker 1>that was too good to give up, so they went

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<v Speaker 1>in and purchased this large amount. But then the steel

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<v Speaker 1>market collapsed in the United States and as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>the company was and shambles. Leon by that point had

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<v Speaker 1>retired and he wasn't really in a financial position to

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<v Speaker 1>help bail out the business or to start a new one.

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<v Speaker 1>So Samuel, Ruth and their kids went on this trip

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<v Speaker 1>in nine or to get a new perspective and figure out, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we gonna do now? They weren't destitute or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that, but they didn't They couldn't go any

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<v Speaker 1>further with the company that had been working for They

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<v Speaker 1>had to start over. At this point, Samuel's forty two

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<v Speaker 1>years old, So they were in Richmond, Virginia in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine when Samuel got into a conversation with a

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<v Speaker 1>local barber. The cutter of hairs told Sammy that the

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<v Speaker 1>very first Southern television station had just started broadcasting the

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<v Speaker 1>previous year in April, not quite a full year before

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<v Speaker 1>this actual encounter happened, and already the number of television

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<v Speaker 1>stations was on the rise, as as were the number

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<v Speaker 1>of homes that were getting TV sets, but they hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite reached the tipping point. It was still one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that was obviously on the upswing, but wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere those to the to the peak. So Wortzel saw

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<v Speaker 1>this as an opportunity to create a new market, and

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<v Speaker 1>he uh said, well, you know, if you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>television broadcast station down here, then clearly you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>have televisions to broadcast two. So later in nineteen forty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel Wurtzel relocated his family to Richmond, Virginia and opened

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<v Speaker 1>up a store called the Wards Company on West Broad Street.

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<v Speaker 1>He took the thirteen thousand dollars he made from the

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<v Speaker 1>sale of his home, which was the equivalent of more

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<v Speaker 1>than a hundred and twenty thousand dollars today, and rented

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<v Speaker 1>a storefront in Richmond that was several blocks from the

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<v Speaker 1>big department stores, so he wasn't right next to the

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<v Speaker 1>places that were already selling televisions under various brands. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Wards store only sold television's at that time, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't sell anything else. That was all he did was

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<v Speaker 1>sell TVs. And you might wonder, well, why did they

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<v Speaker 1>he call it Wards? Well, first of all, it's W, A, R, D, S,

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<v Speaker 1>no apostrophe. The reason for that is Wards is actually

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<v Speaker 1>an acronym. It stands for the initials of Samuel's family.

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<v Speaker 1>The W stands for Wertzel, the last name. A stands

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<v Speaker 1>for Alan, our stands for Ruth, D stands for David,

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<v Speaker 1>which was Samuel's other son, and S stands for Samuel.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, I don't want an apostrophe in there

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't want it to come between me and

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<v Speaker 1>my family, which I think is cute. Wertzel didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>in on this venture on his own for very long.

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<v Speaker 1>Shortly after he established this place, he took on a

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<v Speaker 1>business partner who became the co founder of the Wards Company,

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<v Speaker 1>and that partner's name was Abraham Haste who invested thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars of his own money into the new company. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Haiti's chief responsibility was to manage buying and vendor relations,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was looking at the supply side. Sam was

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<v Speaker 1>concentrating on the sales side, so he was looking towards

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<v Speaker 1>the customer, whereas Haste is looking towards the supplier, and

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<v Speaker 1>both men shared a common set of values. Although they

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<v Speaker 1>were very different people, they both felt very strongly about

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<v Speaker 1>certain principles when it came to working with other people,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they are vendors or employees or customers. They believe

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<v Speaker 1>that what goes around comes around, and that keeping interactions

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<v Speaker 1>friendly and helpful gets better results than a more you know,

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<v Speaker 1>uh negative or pressure approach. Samuel and Abraham created the

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<v Speaker 1>company at pretty much the perfect time. So at this

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<v Speaker 1>time it was post World War two UH, and America

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<v Speaker 1>was very different from the America that was that was

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<v Speaker 1>around during the depression years. During the war, American industry

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<v Speaker 1>was almost entirely devoted to military support efforts, either directly

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<v Speaker 1>or indirectly, and business was booming in more ways than one.

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<v Speaker 1>But the important fact for this story is that after

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<v Speaker 1>the war was over, those military production efforts were able

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<v Speaker 1>to shift into a civilian role, so things that had

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<v Speaker 1>been dedicated to producing tanks could end up being used

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<v Speaker 1>to produce other stuff. And also at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>you had soldiers returning home after serving overseas and then

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<v Speaker 1>they started families. The United States had a baby boom

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<v Speaker 1>going on. US population would increase by more than thirty

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<v Speaker 1>percent over the next couple of decades. So consider all

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<v Speaker 1>the conditions that are present. You had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>young families, you had a booming commercial sector, you had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people with disposable income, and over on

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<v Speaker 1>the technology side, you had the development of reliable televisions.

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<v Speaker 1>They had gone through the first few iterations, and these

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<v Speaker 1>were sets that were expensive, but with the right plan,

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<v Speaker 1>were within the reach of the middle class. Just a

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<v Speaker 1>few years earlier, they were almost exclusively owned by wealthy people.

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<v Speaker 1>They were the only ones who could afford it. But

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<v Speaker 1>using uh in intelligence sales techniques, salespeople could make a

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<v Speaker 1>television more affordable to a much broader variety of people.

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<v Speaker 1>You also had a growth in the number of television

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<v Speaker 1>stations around the country, which meant you had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more programming for folks, which created a more more of

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<v Speaker 1>a demand for TVs. And it was an absolute perfect

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<v Speaker 1>storm for a company getting into the television retail business.

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<v Speaker 1>Along with appliances like a washer, a dryer, and a refrigerator,

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<v Speaker 1>the television became part of the standard model American home.

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<v Speaker 1>Now in nineteen fifty less than ten percent of homes

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States had a television set, but just

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<v Speaker 1>ten years later that number was eighty five. That's an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous amount of growth. So it ended up being a

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<v Speaker 1>great business to get into if you could be competitive. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of sets me up for my next section.

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<v Speaker 1>But before I get into that, let's take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>break to thank our sponsor. All right, we're back, and

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<v Speaker 1>now I want to talk about the actual business decisions

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<v Speaker 1>that Samuel and Abraham had. Now, first of all, they

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea how to make television's. That wasn't their

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<v Speaker 1>business model. They would buy televisions from a manufacturer. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they had one specific one in those early days. They

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<v Speaker 1>knew a manufacturer in Long Island, New York called Olympic TVs.

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<v Speaker 1>So they would buy their televisions from Olympic TVs and

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<v Speaker 1>then sell them in their store in Richmond. Their first

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<v Speaker 1>inventory was just twelve TV sets in the entire store.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. At this time in US history, there were

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<v Speaker 1>only a few types of stores that you could find.

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<v Speaker 1>In general, there were big department stores like Sears, Roebuck,

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<v Speaker 1>and Montgomery Ward. Now those mainly carried store brand items,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe some major brands as well, but those were

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<v Speaker 1>the only ones that they would carry. Right, anything that

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<v Speaker 1>was not a major brand or a store brand you

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<v Speaker 1>really couldn't find in those department stores. Then you had

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<v Speaker 1>some variety store chains, kind of like Woolworth's was still

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<v Speaker 1>big at that time, but they were on the decline.

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<v Speaker 1>It was clear that Woolworths was not long for this

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<v Speaker 1>world in that particular incarnation. Then you had the small

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<v Speaker 1>business owners, the independent owners, the mom and pop stores,

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<v Speaker 1>and they might have one or two shops at most,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would cater to customers in the cities and towns. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Wards Company was one of those, really, and they

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<v Speaker 1>faced a lot of competition even in Richmond, both from

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<v Speaker 1>department stores that sold larger brand name sets and other

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<v Speaker 1>independent shops. So to set Wards apart from these other places,

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel began to offer home demonstrations of televisions. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>how it worked. It was pretty smart. Customers could arrange

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<v Speaker 1>to have a TV set delivered and set up in

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<v Speaker 1>their homes. So Samuel hired a driver who could also

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<v Speaker 1>carry heavy things, because back in those days TVs were hefty.

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<v Speaker 1>The screens were small, but the cabinets were enormous. This

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<v Speaker 1>was vacuum tube technology, so vacuum tubes take up a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of space and these were big, bulky, heavy sets.

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<v Speaker 1>So he hired a strapping guy who picked up the

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<v Speaker 1>television set, put it in a truck, and would drive

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<v Speaker 1>it out to a potential customers home, deliver it, set

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<v Speaker 1>it up, and the family would get to test the

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<v Speaker 1>set out for a full day, and the following day summer,

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<v Speaker 1>someone from the company from wards would come by either

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<v Speaker 1>to claim the television, pack it back up, take it

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<v Speaker 1>back to the store, or start a sale, and usually

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<v Speaker 1>this would involve a cash installment, and then they would

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<v Speaker 1>have an installment plan that would last between eighteen and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four months to space out payments for the television set,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not a bad idea for a world that

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<v Speaker 1>had not yet invented edit cards. This gave customers the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to purchase a television set even if they thought

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<v Speaker 1>that it was outside of their budget, because they could

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<v Speaker 1>break up that expense over several months instead of having

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<v Speaker 1>to do a big upfront purchase. Samuel also became an

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<v Speaker 1>expert at sales strategies, many of which involved a good

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<v Speaker 1>deal of social manipulation. That's a nice way of putting it.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, if you read up on the strategies, you

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<v Speaker 1>might feel a bit uncomfortable as a consumer. But these

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<v Speaker 1>were ideas that worked in sales. So here's an example.

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<v Speaker 1>You could teach sales people to act as though a

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<v Speaker 1>potential customer had already made a decision to buy a

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<v Speaker 1>product without actually having done that. So someone comes into

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<v Speaker 1>your store. There you're showing them, say, a new television set,

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<v Speaker 1>and you pretend like the customer has already decided they

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<v Speaker 1>are absolutely going to buy the television set, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just start asking questions that kind of hint at that

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<v Speaker 1>this actually adds extra pressure on the consumer to walk

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<v Speaker 1>away buying a television set. So you wouldn't say something

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<v Speaker 1>like would you like to purchase this, because that's giving

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<v Speaker 1>the consumer and out. Instead, you might say, do you

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<v Speaker 1>like this one better? In the dark wood cabinet or

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<v Speaker 1>the lightwood cabinet. See, you've already made the assumption that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to buy one or the other. You take

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<v Speaker 1>away the option of saying, oh, I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>buying anything. It adds that extra level of pressure. Or

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<v Speaker 1>you might begin by showing a customer a base model

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<v Speaker 1>that has very few features, and honestly, you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>want to sell the base model because you're selling it

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<v Speaker 1>at a very low price and the margin is very low.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, the profit you make from the sale

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<v Speaker 1>is negligible, and really you could not sustain a business

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<v Speaker 1>selling those style television sets. The purpose of showing the

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<v Speaker 1>basic model is to then move the customer over to

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<v Speaker 1>higher end models that have more features and us cause

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<v Speaker 1>ust more and have a better sales margin, so you

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<v Speaker 1>make a bigger profit from the sale. Uh. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>call this the bait and switch. Samuel preferred to think

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<v Speaker 1>of it as a step up approach. He felt that

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<v Speaker 1>customer service was really important, so it wasn't like it

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<v Speaker 1>was an outright attempt to be a snake oil salesman.

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<v Speaker 1>He was interested in employing the most effective techniques to

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<v Speaker 1>move products. But he also felt that honesty was important

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<v Speaker 1>and that the message he and his employees gave to

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<v Speaker 1>vendors and customers and others should always be the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>because keeping track of lies is a hassle. If you

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<v Speaker 1>tell different lies to different people, maintaining all of that

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge headache. So just be truthful up front

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<v Speaker 1>was his policy. Reconciling the sales approach with the company's

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<v Speaker 1>values requires a little bit of mental gymnastics and perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>some generous allowances, I'll say, but one of those sales

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<v Speaker 1>practices was that the price tag of the televisions in

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<v Speaker 1>the Wards Company store and later other appliances that they

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<v Speaker 1>started to sell after a couple more years, wasn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>a fixed price. Every product had a listed price that

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<v Speaker 1>was the starting point, and then every product had a

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line lowest acceptable price a salesperson would be allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to sell that item for. So your goal as a

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<v Speaker 1>salesperson is to sell it as close to that ticket

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<v Speaker 1>price as you possibly could. But customers can haggle, they

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<v Speaker 1>can bargain, and the salesperson would get a commission based

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<v Speaker 1>upon how high above that lowest acceptable price they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to make a sale. So it was better to

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<v Speaker 1>make a sale than not make a sale. If you

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely had to go to the lowest price in order

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<v Speaker 1>to move a product, then it was better to do

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<v Speaker 1>that than not. But you would get a bigger reward

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<v Speaker 1>if you could sell the product at the higher price,

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<v Speaker 1>the closer to the list price as opposed to the

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<v Speaker 1>secret lowest acceptable price. So if you happen to nab

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<v Speaker 1>a customer that's not terribly aggressive, you can make a

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<v Speaker 1>big commission off a hefty sale. It's another UH idea

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of modern shoppers find particularly shady. It

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<v Speaker 1>also falls into the category that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>will associate with buying a car, and in fact, Circuit

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<v Speaker 1>City has a connection to car sales as well. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into that probably in Part two, not so much

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<v Speaker 1>in Part one. Now paired with this was a customer

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<v Speaker 1>service policy that went above and beyond the pale. So

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<v Speaker 1>every salesperson was expected to follow up with a customer

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<v Speaker 1>to make certain that the delivery, installation, and operation of

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<v Speaker 1>their brand new television's met expectations, and if they didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>the company would work to make things right and even

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<v Speaker 1>send along a conciliatory present or two to smooth things over.

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<v Speaker 1>So Samuel felt that great customer service would help word

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<v Speaker 1>of mouth, but perhaps are importantly, it would help the

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<v Speaker 1>company avoid bad word of mouth, which tends to travel

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<v Speaker 1>faster and farther than good word of mouth. People love

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<v Speaker 1>to complain, and that's something that's still true today. If

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<v Speaker 1>you read over the comments or reviews on things online,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see that people who are dissatisfied uh often will

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<v Speaker 1>go to much greater lengths to express that dissatisfaction than

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 1>folks who are happy, and may even seem that uh

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<v Speaker 1>that the happy folks are are far outnumbered by the

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<v Speaker 1>dissatisfied folks, even if the overall rating is high. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because people who are happy might be willing to give

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<v Speaker 1>like a five star review on something, but not actually

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<v Speaker 1>write anything, just say of five stars, whereas people who

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<v Speaker 1>are unhappy want to tell you about it. Anyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>got a podcast out there knows what I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can be really demoralizing. But Samuel's point was

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't want bad word of mouth spreading. His

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:03.119
<v Speaker 1>business was all one in a tight community, so he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make sure he maintained a good relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>his customers. He also saw the value in hiring and

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<v Speaker 1>developing good employees. He relied heavily on using personality tests

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 1>when evaluating candidates, particularly for sales or management positions. He

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<v Speaker 1>also considered the potential impact any higher would have on

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<v Speaker 1>other employees. He didn't wanted demoralize anyone by hiring someone

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<v Speaker 1>from outside the company to lord over other people, and

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't in a rush to fill empty positions just

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<v Speaker 1>to have them filled. He wanted to make sure he

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<v Speaker 1>got the right people for the right job. He also

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<v Speaker 1>believed in promoting from within the company, which helped to

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 1>build employee loyal team. He was also known for being

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<v Speaker 1>pretty lenient with folks who weren't living up to what

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<v Speaker 1>they're they were accountable for. So let's say a manager, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out the manager who has been promoted above

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<v Speaker 1>their ability to perform. One of the things that Samuel

0:24:56.680 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 1>would do is instead of firing someone out right eight,

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.679
<v Speaker 1>he would say, listen, it was a mistake, obviously to

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>promote you to this position. You were not ready for it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's no fault of yours. It is a fault of

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<v Speaker 1>ours for making that decision prematurely. How about we move

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<v Speaker 1>you down to an assistant manager position that you can

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<v Speaker 1>then work at and gain more experience, and then later

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<v Speaker 1>on maybe revisit this idea of you being a manager,

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<v Speaker 1>which allowed people to hold onto their jobs and to

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<v Speaker 1>get into a position they were more comfortable with and

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<v Speaker 1>more suited for, as opposed to just saying Nope, you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't cut it. You're out. He also instituted a policy

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<v Speaker 1>in which the vice president of Personnel was to sit

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<v Speaker 1>down regularly with employees a couple of times a year

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about how the company could improve existing jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the low level employees, like the entry level positions,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he would work to actually implement those suggested changes,

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<v Speaker 1>at least when the changes made sense. And he also

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<v Speaker 1>was a big believer in providing training opportunities for people

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<v Speaker 1>and began to hold annual store manager meetings in exotic places.

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<v Speaker 1>Those meetings would have like a really concentrated period of

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<v Speaker 1>training and and and deep discussions, and then the following

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<v Speaker 1>weekend everyone would just stay at whatever exotic locale the

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<v Speaker 1>meeting was taking place at, and their families would join them,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they would just kind of have a little

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 1>weekend vacation and say Hawaii or Puerto Rico or something,

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of cool. The company also had no

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<v Speaker 1>vacation policy for management positions, meaning they didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>policy in place, not that managers couldn't take vacation, in fact,

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>they were encouraged to do it. In fact, sometimes they

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<v Speaker 1>were told very sternly, hey, you got you need to

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<v Speaker 1>take some time off. Managers were expected to get the

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<v Speaker 1>job done, period. That's it. As long as that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>They could take as much or as little vacation as

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 1>they liked, but they had to get the job done.

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 1>They also didn't have regularly set hours, but Samuel discovered

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that this approach actually seemed to encourage managers to work

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>longer hours than they otherwise might have done on a

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>set schedule, on like a nine to five each week.

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 1>So it was a strategy that I've seen used in

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the tech industry quite a few times. A lot of

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 1>companies would have these sort of open hour rules, and

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>people would end up spending more hours at their job

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>than they would if they were required to show up

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>at say, nine am and clock out at five pm.

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what that's like, Dylan, Do you

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>know what that's like? Dylan is shaking his head, but

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>also snort laughing. So take that as you will. As

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the company began to find financial success, Samuel and Abraham

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 1>began to stock it with other TV brands, not just

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>those Olympic TVs. They also categorized the various television vision

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 1>sets in steps, like I was saying earlier, with each

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>step representing a price range and a set of features.

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>So the goal was always to get customers to land

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>on the highest step they would want to go, and

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 1>that would represent the models that pose the best profit

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>margins for the company. So if you could sell them

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>on the most luxurious TV set to make the most profit,

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 1>but each step had to have features that justified that

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>that increase in step. You couldn't just have a model

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that had a certain brand name to it and it's

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>automatically a step up over other models. It had to

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>have demonstrable features that showed that value. In other words,

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.439
<v Speaker 1>the customer had to actually get something for that higher

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>price point. So this goes back to that customer satisfaction

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 1>uh concept. It's not just that the company wants to

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 1>make money, they want to do so in a way

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>that is at least remotely ethical especial certainly ethical by

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties standards. So by the mid nineteen fifties, Wards

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>had opened three more stores and enrichments. They had four

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>store fronts at that point. The company also began to

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>carry more items than just television's, like refrigerators and other appliances,

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and the appliance boom in the nineteen fifties was kind

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>of similar to the TV boom. These were all products

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that promised to increase convenience and save time for households.

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>They were also selling this concept of comfort and prosperity,

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's not just selling products but an idea,

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>like a representation of a goal that every American was

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 1>envisioning as this is where I want to be. And

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>as the company saw more success, the owners branched out

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>further and attempted to open stores in other places. They

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>opened one in Roanoke, Virginia, and one in Greensboro, North

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, but they didn't Those stores didn't work out.

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Those efforts probably were a little too ambitious, a little

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>too early, and both of those stores closed within twelve

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>months of having opened. The big problem here was that

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Samuel and Abraham found they couldn't manage those remote locations

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>personally the way they could the Richmond offices. Like they

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>could put managers in charge of those stores, but they

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>couldn't oversee the day to day operations, and if there

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>were problems, they couldn't respond to them in a timely

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>enough fashion for the store to remain profitable. So it

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>was an expensive lesson. But Samuel learned that he needed

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>to develop someone to oversee each remote store at a

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>managerial level and find a way for managers to send

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>meaningful data back for him in order for him to

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>make some high level decisions. A few years after opening

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the company, Samuel and Abraham brought a third person onto

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the team, the management level team like this sort of

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>senior management. Uh. This guy was named Martin Rosenswig, and

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Rosenswig had an accounting background in New York. Samuel and

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Abraham actually gave him a stake in the business even

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>though he had not posted an investment into it. So,

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>in other words, Ross as they called him, got a

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>percentage of ownership of this company, although he was not

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>one of the investors into in the company, and the

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>three of them ran the Awards Company until the mid

0:30:56.120 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>nineties sixties. Now I got some more to talk about

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>out some of the advances that Samuel instituted in the

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Wards Company that that set it apart from other stores

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>at that time. But before I get into that, let's

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>take another quick break to thank our sponsor and we're back. So,

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>in an effort to keep track of inventory, which all

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>had to be done by hand back in those days,

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>there were no automated systems. Samuel actually purchased an IBM

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>punch card equipment system. He saw the value in this

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>burgeoning technological field for using it in order to do

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>supply chain management, inventory management, keep track of sales, profit margins,

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and to to have a really good look at how

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>each store was doing so that if there were any

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>early warning signs, they could sweep in and fix things

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>before they became too problematic. By nineteen sixty six he

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>had a data processing department to keep track of all

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 1>of this. He also adopted the IBM three sixty computer

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>system in the mid sixties to help manage the growing

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>chain of stores. UH Samuel used the data to see

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>which stores were doing well, which ones weren't, and, like

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I said, jump in if things aren't going well. As

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>for Alan Wurtzel, Samuel's son, he would play an important

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>role in the rise of Circuit City. First, he went

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.479
<v Speaker 1>on to study economics at Oberlin College and later at

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the London School of Economics and then Yale University. He

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>passed the Connecticut Bar in nineteen fifty nine and became

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>a law clerk of the U. S. Court of Appeals

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>in Washington, d C. In nineteen sixty, so he was

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>studying at that point, not yet part of the company. Meanwhile,

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>business was going really well for the Wards Company, so

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>well that Samuel took the company public, as in it

0:32:55.720 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>became a publicly traded stock in nineteen sixty one. Now,

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>out in actuality, that was a move of necessity. There

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of opportunity for expansion, but that costs money,

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and the company lacked the capital to do that expansion

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>on its own. But by going public, Samuel could raise

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>capital needed to expand further and make bigger profits. So

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>to that end, the Wards Company got into the discount industry. Now,

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>this was a time where we started seeing big stores

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>show up that were either open membership or closed membership

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>discount stores uh such as g e M International or

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Gym International if you prefer. It's sort of like what

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Sam's Club is today. Wards was dipping their toe in

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>this pool by opening up departments in already existing stores,

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>So they weren't opening up their own discount store with

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>open or closed membership. Instead, they would partner with an

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>existing store and they would manage a specific department within

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>that store. It was almost like a precursor to the

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>shopping all, except instead of a store space within the mall,

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it was a department space within a larger, almost like

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>warehouse style building. So imagine walking into one of those

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 1>big warehouse stores like Sam's Club and one whole department

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 1>is managed by an entirely separate company like Wards. That's

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>essentially what was going on. So Wards would lease space

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>from a bigger store and get access to that stores

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>customer base in return. The company sold one ten thousand

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>shares in December of that year, and that amounted to

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 1>about forty point four percent ownership of the company, and

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>collectively those shares represented about five dred thirty six thousand,

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>two hundred fifty dollars, which meant the overall companies valuation

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>was at one point eight million dollars. Uh small for

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>tech companies these days, for for any company considered a

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>major company these days, but but big, big news to Samuel.

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this was like he was on dream Street.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>At this point, about fifty percent of the company's ownership

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:07.720
<v Speaker 1>still belonged to the Hastis and the Wurtzels. They owned

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>about half the company together. The other ten percent ownership

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.800
<v Speaker 1>was all slightly less than ten percent because the stocks

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>represented forty point four those belonged to other early investors.

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>So five years later, nineteen sixty six, Alan Wurtzel ends

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>his private law practice and goes to join the family business.

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 1>His initial role over at Wards Company was to be

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 1>the official legal counsel for Wards. Now. At that time,

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the company consisted of four stores in Richmond and twenty

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>seven licensed departments and other parts of the country. In

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>those big discount stores I was talking about, sales were

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>about twenty two point eight million, with earnings of around

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>six hundred sixteen thousand dollars. And father and son began

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to expand the company by buying up smaller companies that

0:35:57.120 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>sold appliances. That not only expanded the company these regional

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>reach by getting into areas that they didn't have an

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:06.320
<v Speaker 1>existing store. That also boosted the variety of products the

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>company began to offer to customers, so again more than

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>just TVs at this point. In ninety eight, the Wards

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Company joined the American Stock Exchange. The following year, Wards

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>makes a concentrated effort to buy up local chains and

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>discount stores, converting them over to Wards stores or launching

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>them under a new name. So one of those chains

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>was a chain called Custom Hi Fi, and that gave

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Wards a foothold in the hi fi audio business. Those

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>stores were mainly in the Washington, d c. Area, but

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.720
<v Speaker 1>they represented one of the ways the company was beginning

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 1>to diversify, and they chose to keep the brands separate

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:47.320
<v Speaker 1>from the overall a Wards Company. They named the stores

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Dixie Hi Fi, So if you ever heard that name,

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:52.800
<v Speaker 1>that's where it comes from. It. It was originally Custom

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>High Fi and then acquired by Wards Company. And in

0:36:56.480 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy Samuel Wurtzel transitioned into the position of chairman

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and named his son Alan as the president of the company.

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Abraham Haste at that time retired and in nineteen seventy

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>three Allen Wertzel took over as CEO of the Wards Company. Now,

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that was a rough time for Awards Company, not because

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>of Allen's leadership, but rather because of just economic conditions

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>in general. Around that time, the company was on shaky ground.

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Sales were at around sixty million dollars. That's definitely a

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of money. But the company had also expanded pretty

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>quickly in a short time. So there was this this

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>fact of you know, what, how does sales match up

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 1>against the expansion. Also, there was an economic recession in

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the United States, which was making an enormous impact on

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the company's revenues. Uh several stores had turned unprofitable, and

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Allen Wortzel really had his work cut out for him.

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen seventy four he decided to make the

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 1>take a pretty big risk. The company tried something new.

0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 1>They opened up a forty thousand square foot retail showroom.

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>They called it the Wards Loading Dock, so this was

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>an enormous showroom dedicated to audio and visual equipment. Now.

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 1>The size meant that the company could sell a much

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>larger volume of products, which meant that they could buy

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>them at a lower cost and sell them for a

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>lower price than a lot of their competitors could. The

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Loading Dock also had a much wider variety of products

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 1>from various brands than most other stores, so that was

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>a customer value and they were able to branch far

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>beyond the basic TV and appliance business that had to

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>find the company in years past. The store also offered

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>services that you would have found in the old Wards

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Company store back in nineteen forty nine, like home delivery

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 1>and installation. They also had an in store repairs department there.

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 1>This would become the model for their superstore, but at

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the time it was a pure experiment. That same year,

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy four, the company began to close down

0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 1>those licensed shops and discount stores an the country. Most

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>of them had long since stopped being profitable, and this

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 1>marked a switch in strategy in which the Ward's company

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:11.280
<v Speaker 1>would no longer rent space, but have their own space

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:15.320
<v Speaker 1>their own stores and expand that way instead of renting

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 1>out a place in someone else's store, and that would

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>lead the towards the company's future in retail. It was

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the birth of the superstore. So by nine the company

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>was beginning to open new concept stores that they were

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>calling Circuit City showrooms in the DC area. These were

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>smaller than the loading Dock showroom, but about twice the

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>size of the old Rewards stores, and they were pure

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>electronics stores. Uh They included not just a showroom, but

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 1>also service departments similar to what the loading dock had,

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>but on a smaller scale, and they made sure to

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 1>staff them with knowledgeable employees who could answer lots of

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 1>questions about the products that were on sale. The experience

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 1>for the customer is one that I think a lot

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>of you are familiar with, at least on some level.

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 1>You'd walk into a showroom, the show is filled with

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 1>lots of shiny products from different manufacturers. You can see

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>him side by side and take a look and even

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 1>test out certain features, depending upon what it is you're

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>looking at. So, for example, televisions, you can see the

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 1>different picture quality and you might point at a single product.

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's say it's an enormous twenty four inch television and

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you say, I want that, So then you buy it,

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.919
<v Speaker 1>and you're not buying the one that you're looking at.

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a display model. Instead, the salesperson calls for a

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>boxed version of the same product to come from the

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>back room storage space, and an employee brings the box

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 1>out and maybe even carries it out to your car

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and loads it up for you. That was a brand

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>new sales model in the late seventies. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>that was around. Circuit City was one of the pioneers

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 1>of doing it in this way, and it worked. By

0:40:55.840 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>nine sales were at a hundred and twenty million, wise

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:04.280
<v Speaker 1>as much as just a few years earlier. By wards,

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 1>company had thirty six Circuit City style stores and boys.

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<v Speaker 1>That hard to say in the Southeast, man. I'm glad

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say in the Southeast. Right after all those others.

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<v Speaker 1>At this time, the shopping mall phenomenon was just getting started,

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<v Speaker 1>so Wards Company began to jump in on that as well.

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>It's actually not that different from the discount store approach.

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 1>They started to end up getting storefronts and malls. Some

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 1>of those storefronts they called Circuit City. The company also

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>acquired a New York retailer called Lafayette Radio Electronics Corporation,

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>which had eight electronics stores in the New York City

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:45.760
<v Speaker 1>metro area. The ticket price to purchase that bankrupt company

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>was six point six million dollars, which sounds like a lot,

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>but it was actually a shrewd deal because Wards earned

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>a thirty six point five million dollars in tax credits.

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>So it all worked out for Rewards with that particular

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>acquisition and gave them access to a New York market,

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>something that they had not had at that point. Now,

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:09.720
<v Speaker 1>at this stage, Wards Company was operating four different store

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:14.479
<v Speaker 1>chains simultaneously. There were the Circuit City stores, which were

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the relatively smaller retail electronics outlets. Think of something like

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 1>a radio shack in the mall. Then there were the

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Circuit City superstores which were modeled after the loading dock,

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 1>and we're really the big box style store. Then you

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>had the Lafayette stores in New York, and they also

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 1>had a discount discount store brand out in California called Zodi.

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.359
<v Speaker 1>The company made the vast majority of its revenue from

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>electronics sales, not necessarily appliances, but electronics consumer electronics. This

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 1>was a new era where beyond televisions and radios, you

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>started seeing other types of electronics uh emerge. And some

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>of that was even coming off a particular product I

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>talked about not too long ago, Sony's Beta Max video

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.359
<v Speaker 1>cassette recorders. They were also earning big sales with other

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 1>big brand names. Pioneer Audio Systems is a great example.

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:07.399
<v Speaker 1>That was another one of their brands that they would

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 1>offer in these stores. In the company hired a computer

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 1>hardware and software business owner by the name of Richard Sharp.

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>He was brought on as an executive vice president, which

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 1>might seem like a pretty big leap from the whole

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:25.399
<v Speaker 1>promote from within strategy. He came in at an executive level,

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 1>but Sharp's leadership was a very important role part of

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>circuit cities fate. It's actually a little controversial. Some people

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>point him as saying that he's the reason Circuit City

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 1>flourished in the eighties and nineties and and just exploded

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 1>in profitability. But others say that he actually laid the

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>groundwork for the company's eventual eventual collapse. And we'll talk

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>more about him and his decisions in the next episode.

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 1>In sales hit two hundred forty six million dollars, so

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the company had read bounded big time from that shaky

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>ground it was on in the early seventies. Now, before

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<v Speaker 1>I sign off for today, I have to finally get

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>to nineteen eighty four, not the George Orwell book. This

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>is the year that the Wards Company finally transformed officially

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>into Circuit City. They changed the name of the company

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 1>from Wards Company to Circuit City. In the company joined

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the New York Stock Exchange and listed under the code

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:35.320
<v Speaker 1>c C okay, So that's the birth of Circuit City.

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>In the next installment, i'll talk about how the company

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>shot up the stock exchange, outperforming most other companies, and

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.760
<v Speaker 1>then we'll look at how and why the company faltered

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and eventually collapsed. As well as get a glimpse into

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with the name Circuit City today. If

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:54.080
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0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:57.640
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0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:11.399
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0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:18.279
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