WEBVTT - Mick Shots: What Day of the Week Is It? 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:06.360 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:14.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.560 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:23.840 official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:32.080 and Nicky Spagnola. And it is time for It's Tuesday 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:37.320 or is it Wednesday? Edition of mix Shots Bill Jones, 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:42.559 Everson Walls, Mickey Spagnola inside the SWBC podcast studio here 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:46.120 at the Star in Frisco. There's no better Tuesday. But 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.960 it's a Wednesday. It's supposed it's a Saturday night game, 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.360 so it's supposed to be a Wednesday, isn't it. I 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.840 see nothing on the practice field out there. There's nothing 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.520 nothing out there, Although you know what I think they're 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.120 They made me bringing them and late because they got 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:07.600 they're squishing it to all together. The player virtual interviews 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.560 too early in the day for that kind of talk. Bill, 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:17.119 the player virtual interviews aren't to three forty five. So 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.960 if they're having meetings, and typically on a Wednesday, they 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.920 would be like after practice at one one thirty in 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.319 that race, and so they were gone later, say after 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.199 the game on Sunday. They didn't know they were playing 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.920 Saturday night. Although Mike McCarthy said he had inkling, he 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.520 claimed that they were. They were. They weren't caught off guard. Yes, 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.600 so they probably told the team, Hey, we might be 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.960 playing Saturday night. Button. By the way, I have half 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.040 a day off. I want that with a different logo 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.640 on it. Yeah, that's a good sh is man, it's nice. 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.080 But it's got the Graham going, baby, got the Graham, 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.520 got the leaves. Yeah, man, this is good stuff. I'm 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.920 not cross matching either. It's all Adidas. All right. So 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.240 I got called out by Clar's Hill. You can't wear 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:08.320 a Nike with Adidas apparently. You know, I'm sixty two 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.240 years old and I'm still being judged like I'm back 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.280 in high school. But you know what, I found something 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.760 that I hadn't worn in a while. Yeah, I forgot 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.320 I had that. I put it on and I said, okay, 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.800 there's no logo on it. And then on this sleeve 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.800 was Adidas, and I said I better not wear that. Yeah. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.120 We were like, we're like back in high school. I 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.280 can't I can't cross brand. You can't cross which, by 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.400 the way, is that is that considered a half zipper 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:38.680 for that it is zap for a quarter, it's half 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.600 the Mannings are talking about did you watch it less? 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.320 I watched. They talked about that the quarters they wear 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.520 quarter zippers. Okay, and Aaron Rodgers went out of his 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.240 way to make sure he wore a quarter zippers. Oh okay, boy, 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:55.240 that sounds like some boring you know what, being glad. 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:59.600 I watched that show before that. He he they had 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:05.880 Snoop bond. He was fantastic. He was fan. He's a 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:09.360 big I didn't realize he's a big Steelers fan. Okay, 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.320 grew up maybe I don't know if it was Pittsburgh 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.919 or whatever. He grew up like in Pittsburghers. Yeah, and 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:23.359 so like Cowboys fans, they're all matter. Was fantastic. Like 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:27.680 the things that he knew about the team, Yes, their history, 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:32.760 about the game, well you know said he said, so 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:39.840 they were audible into a play and all basically Roethlisberger 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.320 was throwing check down. Did you see his yards per attempt? 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.040 I did? Oh? Yeah, yeah, And so Snoop wound up 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.280 and I think two point seven Snoop was all over 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.120 Snoop was all over it. He goes, yeah, they're checking 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:56.840 off to that two yard and he knew what they 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.760 were going to do. At halftime, he had thirty four 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.920 temps in ninety six yards. It was two point yards 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.800 in a timp and I glanced it at the end 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.000 of the game. I think it was like forty three 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.200 attempts one hundred and twenty three yards or something like. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.240 It was two point seven yards in a tip. I 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.520 have never in all my life seen at any level 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.240 a yards per attempt that low. And it was so 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:19.120 crazy because they kept trying to make this such a 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:23.040 glorious evening, yes, and they were going overboard with it. 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.479 I'm like, oh my god, guys, he's just a human being. Well, 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:30.560 the channel, the reason, the reason why I watched I 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.680 was on the Manning cast. That might have been the 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.800 only time Chris I wouldn't should have been on the 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.880 They had it, They had it right right right. Life 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.279 hates watching football with me, but she loves watching the 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.720 Manning Cast. She like, yeah, but but it was just 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:49.000 over the top. Man, it was just I can't watch it. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.160 that's why I watched the Manning Yeah. If it's not 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:55.360 a game that I have a vested interest in, like that, 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.440 one like, okay, oh, I forgot it was on I 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.480 missed the commissioner, but I got there in time for snoop. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.520 And then Aaron Rodgers and uh, actually you know Aaron 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:10.200 Rodgers dry sense of humor. But they, the three of 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.760 them mixed really well and talking about the game and things. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:19.240 And then the interesting thing was he was like, you 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.479 know what I think about it? He interested he was 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:26.920 talking about all yeah, he was talking about how loyal 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.960 people are that are from Pittsburgh to Pittsburgh, about McCarthy, 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.600 and then he talked about McCarthy saying when he would 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.600 talk to me on my head my helmet thing, he said, 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.559 at first, I had no idea what he was saying, 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:43.000 what his accent right, because right, the Pittsburgh phrases and 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:47.120 the different words, no, I didn't know about. Yeah, like 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.240 they got Pittsburgh e's you know, and it's like I 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.080 didn't know what those words meant, and he brought it. Yeah, 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:58.080 he said, it's like trying to understand Mike McCarthy onset. Yeah. 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.600 That was that part was really good. And they were 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.240 and you know what, and they were really accurate, like 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.719 they were saying the last full possession that the Steelers 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.719 had They were saying, okay, they just need to at 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.920 one point called time out or take a knee, called 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.360 time out and let him walk off the field right, 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:21.320 and Nag Harris runs for a touchdown right, and then 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:26.000 they were like, okay, Gopher two, they call a time out, right. Well, 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.159 they kicked it right, and then they got the interception, 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.320 and then they got an interception, they got the ball 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:34.039 back and the Browns just wouldn't cooperate. That's the problem. Actually, 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.560 they were trying to cooperate. They was trying to throw intercepts. 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.839 They gave him, they gave him the curtain call with 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.479 ten seconds left, and so he goes out to take 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.240 a knee and that's when they said, well what they 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.400 need to do is after taking a knee, call the 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.360 time out and then he referees are like it's over. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:58.039 Nobody to cooperate. Yeah, and then and then um, one 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:02.359 more one more thing on Roethlisberg, are you okay? And 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:06.000 one more thing on Roethlisberger. He wasn't cooperating with me. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.560 I was in the championship game of my fantasy football 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:13.360 against Caden Gates here and he had a forty two 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.960 point lead on me. Going into Monday night, and I 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.520 had been roethlisbergers my quarterback. Who was I had four 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.560 quarterbacks on my roster. I just started because I lost 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:28.120 Lamar Jackson, and so I picked up Huntley and then 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.080 I picked up So I just went ahead and picked 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.200 I had Roethlisberger already and I had I went ahead 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.239 and picked up Baker Mayfield. I'll just make a decision. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.000 And then at the last Big Ben. I went with 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.360 Big Ben because Okay, it's his farewell. He's gonna throw 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:45.240 four touchdown passes. He's gonna go out. I wish we 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:49.320 got points for how many for how many passes they throw? Yeah, 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:53.280 forget that, that's right, but go ahead, Mickey No, and 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.800 so um he got me seven points or something like that. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.640 Go ahead, and I needed forty two. So Mahomes got 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:06.840 sacked nine nine times. I meeld yeah nine times, yeah, yeah, 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.960 And then what ended up with four. So he's got 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:11.920 twenty one and a half with one game to go, 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.280 and the records try strayhand twenty two and a half. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.520 So maybe somebody will fall down to Baltimore. They played Baltimore. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.560 I think Baltimore will fall down and let him get stuck. 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.880 They ask you something. Harvey Martin was in the twenties, 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.400 what happened with that? Did they take away? They took 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.280 him away? It didn't count because it was before nineteen 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:34.040 eighty two, when stat uh sacks became an official NFL 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.120 nineteen you'd just be happy ever since they were they 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:43.160 were keeping training. What they weren't keeping track of tackles. Well, 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:48.560 that's okay, I would so so not worried about that. 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:54.000 So anyway, So the game ends and they're going to 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:59.679 interview uh Roethlisberger afterwards. Right, he does the entire interview 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.400 with a helmet on and his chin strap over his mouth. Now, 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.960 I don't know if that was for COVID reasons or what, 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.160 but he never I don't think it. Never moved, never 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:13.560 moved right. And then when he got done, you know, 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.920 everybody's hugging him and everything, and he's gonna go and 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.000 basically walk the side of the stands if he cared 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.559 about COVID, didn't we Yeah, you're right, good point. He 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.199 shook hands with their buddy in the stadium. There must 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:31.320 have been there must have been fifty video and still 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.600 camera guys around him, So it was like an amba 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:39.000 I saw that, and I'm thinking, Okay, look at this. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:43.160 This is his last hurrah, and we can't hardly see 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.920 him because of all these people. I said, can't they 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.199 shoot them out of the way. Think about this, You 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.920 tried to out of the way for as well. Think 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:57.760 about this though, had had this succeeding now, had this 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:02.000 been back in nineteen thirties, iconic picture of Lou Garrick 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.080 given his final speech, it would have never been shown 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.160 because there would have been they would have been able 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.000 to see his head because everyone else would have been 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.360 surrounded him with cameras and and and so they followed 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.000 him all the way. And finally here comes his family 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.800 out right, and they're all around him taking pictures, all 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:23.640 these little kids. And the coolest shot ever was he 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.560 went into the tunnel and it was just him, his wife, 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.840 his kids, and I think mom and dad might have 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.160 been in there, and it was it was the tunnel 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.959 was lit, but it was and Joe Green came down 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.839 the cut it was it would have been, and it 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.320 was the neatest shot ever because it was just them 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.920 and it was from behind like he was walking into 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:49.360 the and it was a really neat shot and there 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.520 no cameraman in the way. But just just just slow down, 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:57.960 you said, lou Giwick, Yes versus Ben Woethlisberger. Let's let's 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.280 not well no, no, no, just camera saying them separate 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:06.000 that as far away as we can. Okay, yeah, but 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.920 you're just sure, you know you're invoking come on man, No, no, 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.560 I'm just saying picture. In those days, it would have 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.160 never taken place if it was just slow down, just 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.880 slow down. The Mannings were out by then. Oh yeah, 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.400 oh no, that was back on. I was That's why 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.840 I didn't see it. We manning cast. But the Mannings 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.640 were good, they were real good. They did. They ran 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.439 out of things to say once the once the walk 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.760 off started, they were just watching his time to go. Yeah. Yeah, 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:38.960 they were like they were over that. Yeah, they didn't 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.800 get post they didn't get postgate time walked around the stadium. 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.680 They stayed with it for a little bit. Yeah, but 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:49.000 but they weren't saying anything. They run out of things 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:50.880 to say back. And he was sitting on the bench 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.440 for like ten Why is he sitting on the back, 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.920 don't know. I was waiting for that walk offf ship 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.920 and he was waiting for the director. They were waiting 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.920 for these camera guys around him. Yeah, I'm sorry, just 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.120 as a former player, that was way too much for it. 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.720 I get it that that was way too much for me. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:17.480 Get me playing next week. Ya, nothing's happened with you 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.679 last game last? Yeah, I get that. I get that, 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.920 you get that for your last I didn't know it 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.000 was my last home game. If I would have known that, 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.839 we would have made the races. But that didn't happen. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:36.840 So nout Jimmy. Jimmy told you, Oh it was way fast, Jimmy, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.760 my last game with several coaches. Yeah, it took more 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.840 than one coach. But when your last game here, Jimmy 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:51.240 said that the Super Bowl field is over, but I 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.120 would have been good. Just take your knee and jog 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.240 off the field and wave at the fans. And then 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.200 he did. And then here he goes with lou Garrett. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.320 You see what I'm saying. It's it's too much. It's 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.960 the the visual, the visual. I get the visual. And 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.520 then he did his postgame interview with the media and 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.160 he had a stocking cap pulled down to his eyebrows, 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.600 and overall, what is going on with him? I have 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.960 no idea. I had no idea. Luke Garril on the 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.079 whole time, kids come out, he was on the whole time. 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:24.120 Something's going on with his hair? Then maybe yeah, maybe anyway, 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:29.640 that's that was uh. We we spent way too much 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.520 time on podcast. It was more about the Manning cast. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:37.559 I understand. Yeah, okay, so let's do something that's very worthy. 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.640 Uh and let's go with the Black College Hall of Famous. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:46.120 Can we do that? We can? We don't need we don't. 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.040 I want to know which of these guys you played against? 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:53.600 I played against Nate Uh, Ben Coats, why don't you 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.760 run run off? Let's rob them the list first, We've 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:03.160 got Coats been coach who went to Livingstone. That's one 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.880 of the oldest colleges in the country, if especially HBCU colleges. 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:11.120 Donald dr Livingstone, Donald Driver went to El Cordon no 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:16.079 All corn All Corner. Hell, wow, boy, just be quiet, 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.199 white guy. Let the black guys take care of it, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.480 all right. Yeah. John Big Train Moody, he was a 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:26.600 player running back from Maurice Brown College, cumulate two hundred 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.880 and ninety total points and said, hey, hey, shut up, 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.840 record for black college football players. We're still toy. Okay, 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.880 you got the next, and go ahead. Roscoe Nance contribute 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:41.320 baby Universe, who I worked with at the newspaper Talks Mississippi. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.280 Good dude man, one of the one of the pioneers 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.880 of black college reporters, one of the first guys that 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.760 USA Today hired. That's right, one of the first HBCU guys. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.920 Many and so yeah, well he was a good friend 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.480 of HBCU all Americans. I really missed that guy, Roscoe, 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.520 Nancy good dude. And you did you skipped Nate Newton. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.480 Nate Newton, Florida A and M played for I didn't 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:08.960 know he did it, did you? They played for the 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.920 Tampa Bay Bandits. Yes, USFL say you should let me 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.600 do this. Yeah, no, no, you give that good stuff. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:21.360 Nate undrafted nineteen eighty three by the Washington team. I 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:25.440 was said Redskins, and they were the Redskins in eighty three. Yes, 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.920 they were got cut and he ended up in the 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:34.000 USFL Tampa Bay Badnuts. And when they folded it in 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:38.760 eighty six summer, the Cowboys signed him as a free 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:44.280 agent and he showed up in Thousand Oaks, California at 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:48.120 Saint Louke. You remember him when he walked onto the 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.800 campus about three hundred and fifty. The first time I 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.280 saw him, he was just sitting sitting in the locker room. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.640 What did I say, You said, Saint Luke's or something, 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:01.680 now Lutheran Luke. Yeah, Now he was sitting on me. 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:03.320 He was just sitting in the locker room. We had 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.240 just come in for my morning practice, and I saw 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.080 this big old dude sitting over them. He was this 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.560 big old dude. Yeah, he just yea, at that time, 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.360 we wont used to him being just that. You they 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.600 were like to seventy on the audi. Yeah, and he's 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.400 over three hundred and fifty, big old dude. You know 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.080 how many three hundred pounders were in the league when 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.280 Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys in nineteen eighty nine, Probably 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.960 two other than four the fridge Jerry Fridge, Jerry Jerry 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.560 says they were. I remember him sitting this as years ago. 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.640 He said it four or three hundred pounders in the 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.920 league when he bought the team in nineteen eighty nine. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:33.880 So when he showed up in eighty six, you remember 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.640 the assistant equipment guy, Jerry little Short, Yeah, of course, yea. 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.720 F JO. I can't remember his last name. Darned Foller 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:46.680 follow and they didn't have pants big enough for Nate. Yeah, 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:51.080 and he was the one that started it, said gal 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.720 if if William Perry's the fridge, this guy's the kitchen. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.960 Yeah yeah, And so it became that's how although Tom 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.080 wasn't fond of the world. Yeah, they didn't believe in players. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:03.960 They didn't believe in players trying to make money off 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.639 the field back then. No, nil, he didn't believe in 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.919 three hundred and fifty pounds. They tell you, they know, 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.280 they tell you, well, you don't need we don't need 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.159 to pay you much money because you're Dallas cowboy and 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.360 you're gonna get more off the field opportunities. But then 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.560 as you trying to, you know, achieve those off the 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.120 field opportunities, and they tell you can't achieve those opportunity 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.359 was available to Yeah, yeah, I got the nil right 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:30.000 here anyway. So next the next one is William Billy Nicks. 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:31.840 He was a coach for Marris Brown College and for 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.160 Prayer of youw A and M. Marris Brown as well 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:37.760 got the college national championship and uh. He was named 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.640 coach of the Year by the Pittsburgh Courier. Remember that newspaper. Yes, 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.520 all right, then the last but not the one. I 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:49.119 didn't realize what Sammy White, that he went to Grambling boy, 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.480 Oh man, we hung our hat on Sammy. I played 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.720 with his baby brother. He was my other cornerback, James White. 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.919 That's right, really, yes, that was my I have a 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.760 picture of all four of us in the second day, 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.200 all the whites, not the whites, all the d ds. No, 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.160 we didn't have a bunch of whites a Grammar. Very few, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:14.400 very few whites. Sammy White, Sammy White. Minnesota Vikings played 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:18.399 one hundred and twenty eight games, threeption sixty four hundred 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:23.560 receiving yards and fifty touchdowns. And that concludes the black 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:29.520 college All American. So we did a big h interview 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:34.040 with Donald Driver when he returned here for the Super 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:39.960 Bowl that year with the Packers, and his story was fabulous. 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:44.560 Um grew up in Houston. Uh and you know that story. Huh. 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.880 And he was running, uh in this stolen car ring 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:53.400 to make money when he was in high school. And uh, 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.720 it's kind of similar to your story. He had a 0:18:55.800 --> 0:19:00.840 girlfriend that said it's either me or that, and it 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.360 ain't both. Here's here's what happened. First, there was an 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:08.400 old lady in the neighborhood. The cops were chasing him. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.960 She called him on to the porch. The cops were 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.200 looking for him. She said, no, this is not him. 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:17.159 He's been with me all this time. That old lady 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.600 changed his life right there, because she talked him out 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.439 of that life. And as she protected him, she became 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.399 like his you know, second mother, a mentor in the neighborhood. 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.080 And from then on he did not do anything like 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.320 that anymore, just out of respect for her. And he 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.080 went on to make more of him any any and 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.040 to get out of Houston. He goes to Alcorn uh 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:40.920 and and basically, you know who's this guy, right, Uh, 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.840 he's your side, turned himself, turned himself around, ended up 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.280 with the Packers. Great story lives here now and he 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.800 lives No, he was living in Flower Mountain when he 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.600 did interview with him. And his son, Christian played for 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:57.920 Jason Witten at Liberty Christian h this past football season. Okay, 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.960 and just signed with Penn Stake. All right, Really that 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:07.280 stuff and he was a great guy. Great interview with 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.440 some stuff. If you go to the field house over 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.600 in Great Bund he owns that does it, he's I 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.760 don't know if he owns he's yeah, he's probably a 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.919 part of right, you know, that's nice. The funny thing 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:20.680 with the interview we did, it was like an hour 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.080 and a half. He basically gave us his life story 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.760 and then we get done. He goes, um, are you 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:29.679 going to use all that? I'm going, Oh, what do 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.199 you mean? He goes, well, you know, I got this 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.600 idea of writing a book and I don't want the 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:38.320 whole story out before nobody's going to read this stuff. Right, 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.560 he never wrote he never wrote it, and nobody read 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:45.480 the stuff. Oh yes, don't forget dancing with the Stars 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:49.040 for him too, that's right, right, yeah, good job. So anyway, 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:50.600 I don't know if that had anything to do with 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:54.600 the cot good state, but uh, good for him, and 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:58.800 it does because McCarthy. And by the way, he did 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:02.440 get the call from from Doug. He did, of course, Yeah, 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:04.120 I gave him a number. Okay. As a matter of fact, 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.959 not long after we've finished the show, or just before 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:09.600 the week, he said, you didn't say how he went? 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:12.960 He said that. He basically told him, he said, but 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.880 you can't tell anybody because the releases Tomorrowman, I told 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:20.400 people who Doug is Williams. I didn't know. No, No, 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:22.479 we set it on the air and we set it 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.320 off the year. Yeah, Devi Williams, who along with Shack Haris, 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.080 they have kept this whole Black College Hall of Fame 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:32.480 thing alive. They won't let it drop. The mister Baker 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:35.040 from the Hall of Fame has been very instrumental in 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.480 helping keep all of this alive, to keep the note, 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:43.040 all of the publicity for HBCU. So Doug Williams has 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:44.879 been a part of that. Of course, Doug wis my 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:48.600 quarterback at Grambling State, first Black college quarterback to be 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:52.359 up for the Heisman back in nineteen seventy seven, and 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:54.360 of course we went on play with Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:57.480 and he won the Super Bowl with it at that 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:01.840 time Washington Redskins, and he is now UH player personnel. 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:07.359 I believe he's had still with the Washington football team, 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:09.240 so he is still part of that. And he was 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.399 also the losing quarterback in the Cowboys only victory in 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.399 nineteen and I got my only interception that year in 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:20.720 nineteen eighty nine, it was a tip pass. I still 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:25.760 got him. Yes, my streak is alive. Okay, we went 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:29.440 way pass, but it was well worth it. 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