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Speaker 2: It's spooky, joky, I'm really sure it's dead, it's coming,

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Speaker 2: Hey boo, it's me Raz. First of all, thank you guys,

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Speaker 2: I got so many nice messages. That episode last week

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Speaker 2: people enjoyed it. I think there might be some new listeners. Hello, welcome,

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Speaker 2: come on in, go listen back to all the other

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Speaker 2: old episodes, And thank you guys for all your kind

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Speaker 2: messages about some of the changes I'm doing around here.

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Speaker 2: But seriously, I like, I really want you. No, I'm

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Speaker 2: not changed. I'm not giving up on the way that

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Speaker 2: the show's always been. It's still gonna be that. I'm

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Speaker 2: just there's just this format that I just want to

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Speaker 2: do more. And today is another episode with a comedian

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Speaker 2: who I adore, and she doesn't really have ghost stories

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Speaker 2: of her own, but nonetheless we talk paranormal. We have

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Speaker 2: which is a case that I delved into on a

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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit tired, and I've been trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out what to do with this information. I posted

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Speaker 2: a video on Patreon a couple weeks ago link in

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Speaker 2: the description about a ghost relationship that I began a

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Speaker 2: which I know it's way too spot on. It's like, like, seriously, girl,

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Speaker 2: like all you do is talk about ghosts, and no,

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Speaker 2: everything's a ghost for you. I know, I am skeptical

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Speaker 1: And I know.

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Speaker 2: I was joking last week with Paton and Meredith about

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Speaker 2: these ghosts don't want to end up on your podcast. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let me just tell you the story now. I am

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Speaker 2: buying non tinery, non quadrupinary. I don't know, I don't want,

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Speaker 2: don't ever. I like a lot of different things at once.

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Speaker 2: And when it comes to spiritual practices religions, I like

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Speaker 2: little bit more witchcraft these days. I really do love witchcraft.

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Speaker 2: I really do view myself as a paranormal researcher and

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Speaker 2: But for me personally, I just the stance that I

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Speaker 2: So I file it away. Whatever I go to bed,

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Speaker 2: I'm always like, well, did you say anything? Did you

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Speaker 2: Call me Kelly Clarkston. I'm misindependent. I don't need I

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Speaker 2: don't need a friend. That's like, what are we gonna

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Speaker 2: you please not interrupt my sleep? You're messing you know.

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Speaker 2: It had been a couple of nights where I didn't

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Speaker 2: and I God, Actually the story is kind of long.

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Speaker 2: Should I leave a cliffhanger?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I talk about it all on Patreon. Let's

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Speaker 2: not every day that I have a ghost appear in

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Speaker 2: Uh, you're no fun, Naomi. I love it.

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Speaker 2: We need to get you on one of those shows.

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Speaker 3: I would do it. I would do it. But I'll

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Speaker 2: And I think that that is responsible ghost hunting. You

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Speaker 2: I walk down Fairfax, not one damn thing happened to me,

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Speaker 2: Well, actually I know why. Actually I know why because

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Speaker 2: You know, well, why don't you go visit one. I

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Speaker 1: But are they good? I'm really I really don't like

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Speaker 1: I do think a lot of times in my life

431
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: I've had a feeling of deja vus that has been

432
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: so intense I.

433
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: Was like, can I see the future? Do you know

434
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: what I mean?

435
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: When you really feel like you were like I have

436
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: been here before, and it's something that is it's not

437
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: like something part of your daily routine where you feel

438
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: like I've been here before, but something where it's like

439
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: I've like been in this conversation with this person.

440
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: Who I'm just meeting right now. Does that happen to

441
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 3: you ever?

442
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: Yes, what is that?

443
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's interesting. I think sometimes

444
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: like it's interesting. I think for me, I feel a

445
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: very instant connection to people. Not everyone, but like when

446
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: I feel it is instant in a way that like

447
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: I'm very easily like I want to know her, you know,

448
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: like that's how I felt about you. I was like,

449
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm in love and it's really interesting that that happens,

450
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: because it's like I think though, to me, it is

451
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: a frequency thing. I think I'm drawn to people who

452
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: have a very calming energy and comming I meaning notsily

453
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: like you're here to soothe other people, but like you

454
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: exude a sense of calm that I find so appealing

455
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, how how I want to go to there?

456
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: And it's just like really like it's it's really wild

457
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: because I'll just be like like my stomach will kind

458
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: of not up and it's just say this feeling of like,

459
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, this person's great. I haven't said anything yet.

460
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: Can I tell you about a famous poulter geist please? Okay.

461
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: It's called the Seaford poulter Geist, which is not to

462
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: be confused with the diet I'm on, which is the

463
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: seafood diet. I don't know if you're familiar with this.

464
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: The way it works is if I see food, I

465
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: eat it.

466
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Yep.

467
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is not that this is the Sea

468
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 2: Ford poltergeist, not diet.

469
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: Okay.

470
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: So I got a lot of this information from the

471
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: PSI Encyclopedia website, and this is a case that it

472
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: is said to have inspired the Poulter guist. So it

473
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: took place in Seaford, Like I'm hitting that hard. I'm

474
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: sure it's just Seaford, Seaford, Seaford?

475
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: Is it what?

476
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: Seaford? Massachusetts, Long Islands, New York Islands? Okay?

477
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: Okay, in a time before Teresa Caputo, the Long Island medium,

478
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: who would have solved this in a flash. Ah. So

479
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: this is a really interesting story because it did take

480
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: place like really quickly. It was just like a moment

481
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: in time that happened. The Herman family. So we're talking

482
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 2: about James and Lucille Herman and they have a son

483
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: and a daughter. Now is this adorable? I'm not sure,

484
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: but their kids were named James and Lucille.

485
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: No, it's not adorable. Why not? I don't like it.

486
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

487
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: It's like a mini version of us exactly. But you

488
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: guys are married and your children are siblings. Do you

489
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: see where it's already at lost? Yeah, you see it's

490
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: already a little off. And then it's also like, why

491
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: don't you let your child be their own person? Why

492
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: are you so obsessed with yourself? If you would to

493
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: name some after yourself, I think you could. It could

494
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: be a pet, but not another person.

495
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's why the ghosts were drawn to them.

496
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: I guess the evil of that have.

497
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: So in February of nineteen fifty eight, Lil James Junior,

498
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: who at the time was twelve Lucille was thirteen. He

499
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: comes home from school and he goes to his dresser

500
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: and he has a toy ship on it and a

501
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: ceramic doll and they're broke. They're both broken. And Lucille Senior,

502
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: do you call ladies seniors?

503
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: I feel like this instance where they'd name a child

504
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: after themselves.

505
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: Big Lucille, Mama, Mama Lucille. So she's good. She goes

506
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: into her room and on her dresser is a small

507
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: bottle of holy water with the cap off, and it's

508
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: spilled all over the place. What so, either somebody is

509
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: rooting around their dressers or and I'm more inclined to

510
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: believe this option, we got ourselves a polter guys. So

511
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: over forty five minutes, there are bottle caps flying off

512
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: of all kinds of bottles in the house, no, NonStop,

513
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 2: and we're talking everything. Over the course of five weeks,

514
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: there are if it's a bottle, say goodbye to your top, bleach, paint, thinner, perfume, wine, medications, shampoo.

515
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: The house is wet, and I imagine it's smelling funky,

516
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: and so there's constantly things flying around the house. Figurines

517
00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: are flying and colliding and smashing in the air. It

518
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: starts to get into bigger stuff, like it becomes furniture lambs. No, yes,

519
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: and then allegedly a bookcase was turned upside down.

520
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: That is crazy, what are you saying?

521
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: So the last occurrence took place on March tenth, So

522
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: we started out, when was this February tomorrow? So it's

523
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: like a quick it was five weeks, I guess, so

524
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: on four different occasions. It was so violent that the

525
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: family was like, fuck this, we are out of here.

526
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: So they left and stayed with friends for a total

527
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: of six nights and it's weird because it's nineteen fifty eight.

528
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: It's like, who do you call exactly? I just think

529
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: when every single bottle is getting popped off, which pas.

530
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: Another name for this case is called the popper, the popper,

531
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: the popper Poulter guys, or the popper the pauper incidents,

532
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: to be confused with a few popper incidents I had

533
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: in my twenties, which is very different.

534
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: This is perfect for pride. Yeah, copper poultry guys.

535
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: So they called the police and James Senior assumed that

536
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: it was little James Junior playing tricks. But one day

537
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: he said in an actual formal police statement that he,

538
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: James Senior, was brushing his teeth and he saw a

539
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: medicine bottle and a shampoo bottle moving in the bathroom

540
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: at the same time, and there was no James Junior

541
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: around doing it. So he was like, what is going

542
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: on here? So this cop comes by, does an inspection

543
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: of the house and with the family here. While he

544
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: was there with the family, he heard noises in the bathroom.

545
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: He went in there, there was a bottle of shampoo

546
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: that had fallen. There was a bottle of Chao pep

547
00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: tape that was in the sink, and so a guy

548
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: named Detective Joseph Tauzzy was assigned to do full time

549
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: duty in the house.

550
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: And that's crazy to think that in nineteen fifty eight

551
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: they were just like, your job is to just sit

552
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: here and let us know if bottles pop exactly. This

553
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: is the kind of stuff the cops can handle. Okay,

554
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: don't give anything more than that. I sit here, make

555
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: a log if a bottle pops exactly.

556
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: So they have a cousin named Marie Martha and Mermura Mirtha,

557
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: not Martha, not Mirtha Stewart, it's Marie Mirthaea. Their cousin,

558
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: Marie Martha. She witnessed a figurine fly rapidly in the air,

559
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: and a cap on a bottle of ink popped off loudly,

560
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: and it threw ink all over the damn place. Now

561
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: that is that's too much.

562
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: That is truly a messy bitch, that Poulter guys.

563
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: But I imagine it's the fifties where they would have

564
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: those plastic covers on the couches and stuff. I don't know.

565
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: Maybe, well you could only hope, I mean having two

566
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: little children maybe, But I mean think about the rug.

567
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: You know there's carpet honey.

568
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: Oh it was of course carpeted. I mean, combine so annoying,

569
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: these damn Poulter guys. So they ended up having journalists

570
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: come from Newsweek, Time Magazine, New York Times, the London

571
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: Evening News. They all came by, which girl, I wish

572
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: I could get this kind of press. I'll pop some bottles,

573
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: I'll pop bottles.

574
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 3: Did anything happened for them? Sorry?

575
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Like, I guess what I'm interested is like, you know,

576
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: this is like a five week moment. Is this happening

577
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: all the time, because it's like one of those things

578
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: where you know, if this was a movie, it would happen.

579
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: You would have someone come over and nothing would happen exactly,

580
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and then everyone would be

581
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: like you crazy, Well, we're crazy, Lucy.

582
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: That's the part we're getting too. So a journalist from

583
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: Newsweek stayed the night and he witnessed a dresser fall

584
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: over and a lamp being overturned. There was a physicist

585
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: that came by and witnessed a bookcase being turned upside down.

586
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: What The Parapsychology Laboratory of Duke University sent some guys

587
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: over and they saw some shit.

588
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: Okay, wow, so this is not a secret ghost. This

589
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 3: is a ghost. It's like letting everyone know I'm here,

590
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: this is my house.

591
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the.

592
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: Ghost is like real, this is what I've trained for.

593
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: We got the press here, I'm gonna give them a show.

594
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: I want there to be a Zelda Rubinstein movie about this.

595
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: So they ruled out a bunch of possibilities. These guys

596
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: from the Parapsychology Laboratory of Duke University. They looked into

597
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: vibrations that could have been from planes shaken the house,

598
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: or plumbing, chimney winds coming through high frequency radio waves,

599
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: problems with air circulation, like all the logical explanations, it

600
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: would seem they couldn't find any of those reasons. They

601
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: conceded that many of the events could have been from

602
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: those naughty little kids playing jokes, because the kids were

603
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: present for most of the stuff that went down. However,

604
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: there are many events where the kids were confirmed to

605
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: not be present, and they grilled them hardcore with the detectives,

606
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 2: and I guess the dad was really thinking it was

607
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: a little boy, and they got him to the point

608
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: of tears where.

609
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: He was like, I haddet it.

610
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: It was as he's.

611
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: Got like ink all over his hands. But they found

612
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: no evidence that the kids were secretly magicians, which was

613
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: something that they thought, and yeah, I mean that would

614
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: be some amazing magic, honestly. But they did test to

615
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: see if someone could create some kind of gas pressure

616
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: in the bottles that would make this That's.

617
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: What I was thinking, Like, if you were a magician,

618
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: that would be the work of like shaking a bottle

619
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: and then loosely putting the cat back on right right

620
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: in soda, But like, I don't know, you do like

621
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: bleach and ink?

622
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's like you can probably do like a baking soda.

623
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: Through volcanoes, yes, well Science Fair volcanoes everywhere totally.

624
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: Oh and then it smells awful. But they they tried

625
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 2: different things like that, and they saw that it would

626
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: either burst the container completely or it would seep out

627
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: from under the lid whatever the gas that they put

628
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: in it. But I don't know, maybe the kid had

629
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: a secret recipe that they didn't try. I don't know.

630
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: I doubt it.

631
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: I doubt I doubt little Jimmy Junior in Seaford, Long

632
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: Island had some secret skill. No one knew about.

633
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: I just have a feeling they were regular.

634
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: Well okay, so they also wondered why the family would

635
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: have called the police if they were making it up.

636
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. Worse, absolutely, they liked the theory these parapsychologists.

637
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 2: They liked the theory that it was the current spontaneous

638
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 2: psychokinesis from James Junior, which basically that's that's some carry shit,

639
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: you know, which you know, they from other cases that

640
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: that the parapsychologists people were aware aware of or they

641
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: had investigated themselves. They saw that a lot of times

642
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: these kinds of cases are centered around one person. And

643
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: since when he was around, ship was always going down,

644
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: could it be he's moving things around with his brain

645
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: whether he realizes it.

646
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's gonna be like part of his puberty,

647
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 3: is what we're saying.

648
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. So they did refuse a lie detector test

649
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: the whole family, but they said it was because they

650
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 2: didn't want to subject the kids.

651
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: To to that.

652
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 2: So okay, okay, that's pretty much the conclusion of that story.

653
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: But wait, no, the wait what happened? So what like

654
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: March tenth, like March eleventh, there was just nothing else.

655
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: They were just done.

656
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 3: It just stopped.

657
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: It's like the Sopranos final season just goes to black and.

658
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, I'm sorry, do we have any information

659
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: who lived in this house before them? I mean, if

660
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: you're telling me there's a damn department at Duke University,

661
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: can somebody get out of microfiche, give me some research

662
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: who was living in the Seaford Herman House before?

663
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: But they were living there already when it started. It's

664
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: not like they moved in and it started. It was

665
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: just like a rapid It was like a flash mob

666
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: or like remember those. It was like something that just

667
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: popped up, improv everywhere whatever exactly.

668
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: So okay, it popped up and it popped off.

669
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: The popper popped off. I believe that somebody lived there before,

670
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: and I would here's my theory on what the pultry goes.

671
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: Okay, because it's popping.

672
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: Bottles, it's creating messes, it's doing a lot of household things.

673
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: This was the ghost of the woman who was like

674
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: the lady of the house before, uh huh. And she

675
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: did not like the way Lucille kept her house. She

676
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: did not like the way Big Lucille was running her home. Okay,

677
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: and she said, I'm gonna cause problems here. I'm gonna

678
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: make her clean because she doesn't seem to want to.

679
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: I am going to like ruin what she thinks is

680
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: pretty by like throwing ink everywhere. See, this is what

681
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: be getting Mealin.

682
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: This is what I'm calling you now.

683
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, thank you, Rosalind I need details on the

684
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: previous occupants of the Seaford House. Oh God.

685
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: I hate when people ask me questions after I already

686
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: did my research.

687
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 3: You don't have to tell me. I don't know myself.

688
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: If you're taking facts from me, that's a you problem. Okay,

689
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: this is just what I've read online. I didn't get

690
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: to that part, but I'm gonna.

691
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: I'm research.

692
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: I believe in like Telecanesi's psychic cansis. I believe in

693
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff, people being able to move things

694
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: with them. I think that something like that can just happen.

695
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: A lot of times poultrygeist cases are like this. They

696
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: just kind of manifest and then they head on out

697
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: to the next town.

698
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: It's interesting you say you believe in people moving things

699
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: in their minds. I don't know if I believe in

700
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: like a living person having a power. But I very

701
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: much believe that like a spirit can linger and ruin things.

702
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean, quite frankly, I feel like I am already

703
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: haunting my own home.

704
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

705
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: I just like walk around barefoot in a pajama dress,

706
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: just sobbing softly, and he's like, is that you?

707
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: It's that creature.

708
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: So I already feel like I can't like when I

709
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: am dead, I will continue to engage in that behavior.

710
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, well, you don't believe that people can

711
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: move things in their mind, but with your mind you

712
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: have moved me many times as I've heard you do.

713
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: You're brilliant comedy.

714
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was a good way.

715
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: Thank you. It was like a pickup line that was weird. Okay,

716
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: I want to I'll tell you about a phenomenal that

717
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with. Okay, please eBay Haunted Dolls. What There

718
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: is a world that I am very much. I'm very

719
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: involved in the community, and by that I mean I

720
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: go to eBay, I screenshot pictures and I laugh about it.

721
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: There are Annabell's inspiring Annabell's. The goal is to one

722
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: day become Annabelle. Annabelle is like the Kim Kardashian of

723
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 2: the Haunted Doll World. Okay, these are all micro influencers.

724
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: I'm giving them a platform. Let's see what they do

725
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: with it. But this is my reality show, try and

726
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: search for the next Annabelle. Okay, So today we're gonna

727
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: talk about Sonya. Kyle, can you show us Sonya? Now

728
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: here's son Im Sorry, I'm so sorry.

729
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: You got Sony's already so scary. You have to describe it.

730
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: I can't even look now.

731
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: You describe Sonya. Well, okay, she's got a pearl necklace on.

732
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: She's got some lace. Lace is very popular in the

733
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: Haunted Doll World.

734
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely you need lace. Lace is almost like the textile

735
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: version of a dream catcher. Okay, that is why lace

736
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: is popular. It's catching your thoughts, it's catching your imagery.

737
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: Now let me tell you now I'm looking through my fingers.

738
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: You guys.

739
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: Very upsetting to me, and part of what it is.

740
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 1: Okay, So Sonya she is she has redish hair, almost auburn,

741
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: let's say, not a fiery red, right. Her eyes are

742
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: closed and she has a little smile, and I think

743
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: that's what's scaring me. What's scaring me is also because

744
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: it's like her smile, it's like a little bit it's

745
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: a tight smile, so it's like a full cheek. She

746
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: almost looks like she looks like she could be forty seven,

747
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: but she is meant to be a child doll, right.

748
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: And it can be kind of difficult sometimes with dolls.

749
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: I never really thought much about dolls, but ever since

750
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: I became obsessed with looking at pictures of dolls on eBay,

751
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: there's a lot of what I call grandma babies, where

752
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a grandma or if it's

753
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: a baby. It's a very fine line.

754
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: She has very light light eyebrows, which you know, also

755
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: is off putting to me. And then it looks like

756
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: she has almost a Harry Potter scar on her forehead.

757
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: Scar. It's kind of Valerie cherish, I feel. From the comeback,

758
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to read to you about Sonya because the

759
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 2: best part of these is that they come with pretty

760
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 2: detailed backstories, so that you know before you buy Sonia,

761
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 2: which you're getting yourself into. So it says with asterisks

762
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: at the top, it says, this is a repost because

763
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: the person who won the first bid never paid, so

764
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: please don't flip out on me. Here it says I

765
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: have been calling the spirit Sonya. However, she isn't very communicative.

766
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: I've had difficulty getting her to communicate, even with my

767
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: pendulum or with tarot cards. However, she does sometimes answer questions.

768
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: She also often flickers my lights. I discovered that she

769
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: also has taste in TV shows. She didn't she didn't

770
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: like Frasier, which I had played in the background while

771
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: I cleaned. She turned the TV off over and over

772
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: until I gave up and started watching Parks and Recreation instead.

773
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: Apparently that was okay.

774
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: Because of her lack of communication, I don't know much

775
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 2: about her background. I get the sense that she isn't human. However,

776
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: I wouldn't quote me on that. Sometimes I get weird

777
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: picture flashes of her being mistreated in her current form

778
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: and vessel. However, I'm not sure if those are real

779
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: or if she is confused. If she is confused what

780
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: the actual vessel is about thirteen inches tall and her

781
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: arms are about ten inches. She has some marks and

782
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: a stain on her skin and dress. I don't like

783
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: it being called skin.

784
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 1: It's not scin though it's not skinned.

785
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: Her body is soft, but the rest is porcelain. She

786
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: is in a permanent kneeling position. Her hair is a

787
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: little frizzy and might benefit from someone who can fix it. Also,

788
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: her hair seems to be coming unglued. If you're looking

789
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: to solve a mystery or for a unique spirit, I

790
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: recommend checking out Sonya.

791
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: What Okay, I have a question about this entire thing.

792
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: Okay, now, who is the.

793
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 3: Who is the buyer for this? You're saying you look

794
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 3: or wherever?

795
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: But like if you believe spirit's are real, Like I

796
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: get that part, but like, why would you want one

797
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: in the house?

798
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: So I'm saying honestly, sometimes these sound like a roommate

799
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: if you live alone, particularly like when I was thinking

800
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: during Lockdown, if you're alone and you're like, I would

801
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: just wish I could watch TV with somebody, you know,

802
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: I wish that I could.

803
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: You would just like put Sonia next to you and

804
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: hopes she didn't change the channel.

805
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: Yes, don't put on Fraser because I mean, fuck Kelsey

806
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: Grammar exactly. Yeah, we don't want Fraser. So Sonya's got good.

807
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: It does say she has taste in TV.

808
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 3: Shows, Yeah, taste. Yeah, But I.

809
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: Imagine maybe this person bought her during the pandemic and

810
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: they're like, she's not talking. Okay, I thought I was

811
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: gonna get a friend.

812
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

813
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: So anyway, I bring all this up because I was

814
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: wondering if I was to buy you, Sonya, would house.

815
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: Son absolutely not. You would be dead to me. I'm

816
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why, because.

817
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 2: When Sonya's sister, if I'm dead, I'm.

818
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: Being haunted by you. I've been haunted by you.

819
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: My problem is. Okay, so a very formative film for

820
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: me as a child, which is the problem. I saw

821
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: at age six in the theaters Child's Play, and that

822
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: terrified me, like to the point now you know there's

823
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: like a TV show whatever, like I can't look at.

824
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 3: Chucky and without like it's just like it is scary

825
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: to me. And my cousin's when I was growing up,

826
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 3: I had a doll with me and my so me

827
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: and my cousin.

828
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: She has three older brothers, but she and I were

829
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: six months apart, so we were always friends and we

830
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: would like the adults would like get us the same stuff.

831
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 3: All the time.

832
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: So we both have these dolls named Susie Scribbles. You

833
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: would put a cassette tape in Susie, and she would

834
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: like say stuff and she would like, you know right,

835
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: you know a little like automated fing or whatever.

836
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's creepy, that has some potential to be some Well, okay.

837
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 3: Let me tell you what happened.

838
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: So one day my cousin hurled your brothers, who you know,

839
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: loved to be mean. They were like, Naomi, come here,

840
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: Susie has something to tell you, and they turned her on,

841
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: and I guess again, she used she required cassette tapes,

842
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: so they had obviously done something because they turned her on,

843
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: and she goes, Hi, Naomi, I'm Susie Chucky's sister, wanna play?

844
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: I screamed, cried, locked myself in the bathroom until an

845
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: adult came home. I was convinced she was gonna kill

846
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: me and come for me.

847
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: But wait, and even they programmed her to say that, yeah.

848
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: They pretty much say recorded over a cassette okay, and

849
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: then put that tape in the doll.

850
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: Oh that's mean.

851
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: It was terrifying. And so for me, like I am

852
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: scared of dolls, I do think dolls are scary and creepy.

853
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: Like even even Sonya, who you showed me like her

854
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: eyes were closed like just their expressions and even with

855
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: closed eyes, because normally for me what freaks me out.

856
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 3: Is the bright the wide open eyes. It's like what

857
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: are you staring at?

858
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: But just like there's something about them, you know, and

859
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: they're almost always Caucasian, which can never be trusted, and

860
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: they're just like so scary.

861
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 3: So the idea of like, oh, just like thinking of

862
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: a doll in the way it's like.

863
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: Looking at you, like if you have a Sonya and

864
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: like you put Sonya what like on a mantle on

865
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: a shelf. She's you gotta watch your back, is what

866
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You gotta watch your back if you got

867
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: one of these damn dolls in there.

868
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well you make a good argument. I'm not

869
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: gonna buy it for you. I just wanted to be,

870
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: you know, a gracious host.

871
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: Well do you have one?

872
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: Do you have a hunted doll?

873
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: No?

874
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: God, Naomi, who do you think I am? I would

875
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: never have something like that house. Hey, you want to

876
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: hear some ghost voices?

877
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: I think so. I think so.

878
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: It's far evp or ev pase have you ever heard

879
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 2: the term evp?

880
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: No?

881
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: What's it meaning?

882
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: Well, those ghost shows that you don't watch they do

883
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: a thing called it's well, it's a thing called EVP,

884
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 2: which is electronic voice phenomena. So it's basically anytime a

885
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: ghost is recorded speaking.

886
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

887
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: Now, my other favorite place besides eBay is YouTube, and

888
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: on YouTube you will find thousands of people's EVPs and

889
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: I found two of them for us today. And I

890
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: would love if you could tell me what you think

891
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: this ghost is saying, and then we'll guess, and I'll

892
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 2: give you some options that are what the actual ghost

893
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: hunter believes they got it. Okay, so this was posted

894
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: by Anthony Anderson. What from Blackish?

895
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: I know? Is it the actor? No?

896
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: Actually, I have found this guy's EVPs before. He has

897
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: some good ones. I as far as I know, it

898
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: is not the same Anthy, but don't quote me on it.

899
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: It could be. It was recorded in his bedroom while

900
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: he was sleeping, and this was in twenty eleven, so

901
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: there is a little bit of twenty eleven quality here

902
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: when it comes to the audio capture. But tell me

903
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 2: what you hear this ghost saying?

904
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: What? What?

905
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: Let me play it again?

906
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: That is not a ghost's police.

907
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have any guesses? Can you give me

908
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: a guess of any sort, I'll play it one more time.

909
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: Okay. So at best, what I think is this is

910
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: the ghost of a Kathy cartoon, because all I'm hearing is.

911
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: Act the ghost of a Kathy cartoon.

912
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: That's all I can hear.

913
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 2: No, I'm picturing the Kathy cartoon haunting Anthony Anderson, comedic actor. Okay, Now,

914
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 2: Anthony Anderson did not think that it was the ghost

915
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: of a Kathy cartoon, saying act Okay, one of these

916
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: is the correct answer. Is it A I want you

917
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: bad boo? Is it B I'm in a bad mood?

918
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: Is it C I need the bathroom? Or is it

919
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: D just like someone doing a real bad beatboxing attempt,

920
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: Like Okay, let me play it again. It's one of

921
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: those options.

922
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: Okay, I think it's bad beatboxing.

923
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: It really does sound like beatboxing, Like it sounds like

924
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: the next part would have been that.

925
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 1: Like that that move.

926
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: You know, they believe it's I'm in a bad mood.

927
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm in a bad mood.

928
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: Wow? See this?

929
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: Why can't watch these programs?

930
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: Because that don't sound like nothing to me?

931
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: Rush, Okay, well you're gonna change your mind about this

932
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: stuff with this next one.

933
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm ready, my heart is still open.

934
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: This was posted by Gargoyle six y six one.

935
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah boy g sixty

936
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: six one, I know what you're talking about.

937
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: Gargoyle sixty six one recorded this at the Silver Queen

938
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: Mine Road. Oh, this one's very different. There's no beats

939
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: to this one. This is like a whisper. Okay, that's scary.

940
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: Ah wow, An, I guess there. I'm hearing like no one,

941
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: but I'm like, that's not it. It's like more of

942
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: a phrase. But I'm like hearing like no, what or something.

943
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: Well, let me give you some options, Okay, give me

944
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: is it a wait? What is it? B? Give me water?

945
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: Is it C? I don't want to?

946
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: Or D.

947
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: Barbara Walters, Okay.

948
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: Here it is, Okay, I don't want to.

949
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: It is I. I don't want to.

950
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: I don't want.

951
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: Scary.

952
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: Right, let me pay it again.

953
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to.

954
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: Okay, that was scary. All right, Let's do one last

955
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: thing here. I'm just gonna say a bunch of paranormal,

956
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: unexplainable things, and I just want to hear if you

957
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: have any thoughts on it, if you have any experiences

958
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: locked away deep in your brain. This is my favorite

959
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: one to ask people about. I think Bigfoot where.

960
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 3: Yet I do not think. Look, I grew up in

961
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 3: the city, so I don't know nothing about no creatures.

962
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 2: Right, So you grew up in literally New York City.

963
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so you know. The only bigfoot I know

964
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: is the person stomping upstairs, you know what I mean,

965
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: the neighbor upstairs the apartment. Okay, that's as far as

966
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: I know a big I don't think bigfoot is real.

967
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: I think that.

968
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: There are too many actual animals that just like can

969
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: stand upright, And I think people were like, look, and

970
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this is someone who liked the movie

971
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: Harry and the Henderson's. Okay, when I was a child,

972
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: I loved it. I thought Wow, I was like, stay

973
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: be part of the family.

974
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: This is beautiful.

975
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: So it's not like I am against a bigfoot. I

976
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: just really like, what proof do we have that there's

977
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: a bigfoot? That could just be somebody with like a

978
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: Lebron's size shoe walking in the woods and then you

979
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: see a big brown bear.

980
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: But what about the shaky videos that people take.

981
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: You mean, the blurry videos.

982
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's proof.

983
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: That's proof that something was in the shadows and if

984
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: it correct me, if I'm wrong, isn't the forest all shadows?

985
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: The wilderness is just all shadows, trees and shadows.

986
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: I don't go in the woods, so I have no clue.

987
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: Would never, would never.

988
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: Woods to me are scarier than anything else. Maybe the ocean,

989
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:29,479
Speaker 2: but oh.

990
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: My god, I was gonna say that.

991
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 3: I was like, woods, you know, and you know what

992
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: it is.

993
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: It's to me, it is I'm afraid of a limitless expanse,

994
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: the idea that if you look out in any direction

995
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: you can't see anything but that, right, Like when you're

996
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: on the water and you look out and you're like,

997
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: where is the land?

998
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 3: Where is you're right?

999
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: Like?

1000
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 1: And then also when you're in the forest and you turn,

1001
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: you like look around and it's like all I see

1002
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: is tree, Right. That's terrifying to me because it's almost

1003
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: like you're like not on the planet, you know what

1004
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you're almost in like a Bermuda triangle

1005
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: type situation.

1006
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: Oh that's scary, Naomi wait growing up in New York.

1007
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: I was recently just talking to somebody on this podcast

1008
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: about this that New York it's so weird because it

1009
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 2: must be so haunted but like I on this show

1010
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: have not here heard a ton of ghost stories in

1011
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: New York City? Do you Did you ever know of

1012
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: any growing up or anything like that?

1013
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: No, not at all.

1014
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 2: It was like don't don't go in that building, there's

1015
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: a ghost.

1016
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: No, there was like nothing like that. I think because

1017
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: New York is so densely populated. My theory is that

1018
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: it's really easy to be a ghost in New York

1019
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: and just like go unattended, like no one will notice you, right,

1020
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: because it's like you may think you hear something, but

1021
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: then very quickly you're like, oh, the radiator is leaking, right,

1022
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: Like there's so much going on that I think if

1023
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: you're a ghost, you could just ghost it up and

1024
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: you're never going to be exercised.

1025
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 3: You're never gonna be saged, like people don't know your things.

1026
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: When people are just like in their own world, like

1027
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: they're they might not be looking around at every single

1028
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: human that they see because there's just so many humans.

1029
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: Because think about the real when I think of ghosts,

1030
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, a big thing I think about like New

1031
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: England and you know these movies like the Haunting of

1032
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: Hill House, these are large, empty kind of like either

1033
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: old empty houses or just like tiny towns, or like

1034
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: the houses you know the nearest neighbor is a half

1035
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: mile away or whatever, the kind of settings where it's

1036
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: like easy to pick up on noise and be like

1037
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: something is a miss. You know.

1038
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: It's which reminds me. Do you know do you know

1039
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: about the Conjuring the Conz Did you ever see the movie?

1040
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: No?

1041
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 3: Too scary?

1042
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: It is scary. So this house, it's a real house.

1043
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: It's a real case. And it just sold for one

1044
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 2: point five million dollars why And it's in Rhode Island,

1045
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: just sort of in the middle of nowhere. It's surrounded

1046
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,959
Speaker 2: by trees, of course, and it was sold in twenty

1047
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 2: nineteen for four thousand or sorry, four hundred and thirty

1048
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 2: nine thousand dollars.

1049
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 3: What what are you telling me? How did people just

1050
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 3: because of the movie?

1051
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: Well, no, because the movie was already out when they

1052
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: bought it for four hundred and thirty nine It the

1053
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: people that moved in were ghost hunters, and they started

1054
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: charging people to come in and stay overnight, and they

1055
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: turned it into a business. And so when they put

1056
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: it on the market, there was actually a bidding war

1057
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: and it ended up going to somebody for one point

1058
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: five million dollars. That's insane, and the woman that bought

1059
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: it is thinking about turning it into like an event venue.

1060
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know, would you ever consider staying in

1061
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 2: the world's most haunted house doing an event there?

1062
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: For some A wedding, Well, I was gonna say, I'm like,

1063
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,959
Speaker 1: what about a wedding. I was like a new wedding location, wedding,

1064
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: let's see you're getting married and a haunted.

1065
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: Yes, what about past lives?

1066
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 1: Hmm, this is a tricky one. This is a tricky one.

1067
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: I think when you go, you go, You're gone.

1068
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 2: That's it, and that's it. I don't think.

1069
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 3: I don't think you're coming back.

1070
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: What do you think a ghost is?

1071
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: A ghost is somebody who died and then was just

1072
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: like either I like causing trouble, I'm bored, you know

1073
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like just like on the spiritual plane

1074
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: and said I want to stay here. A ghost isn't

1075
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: like somebody. It's not like a return. It's like somebody

1076
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: who was like I don't feel like leaving right, It's.

1077
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: Like you got to go. I don't want It's like

1078
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: those ladies that get dragged off of airplanes for not wearing.

1079
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: Ma'am.

1080
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: We need you to go. I have my rights. I

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Speaker 2: own this house, ma'am.

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Speaker 3: I pay for this house.

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Speaker 1: This is my I pay for it.

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Speaker 2: We need you out, well, Naomi, it's time to wrap

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Speaker 2: it up. However, Naomi, thank you for doing those.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me on. I hope

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Speaker 1: I wasn't too skeptical.

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Speaker 2: Now it's for yours. I think you're great. Tell people

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Speaker 2: where they can find you, the pod, the special, all

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Speaker 2: of it, the TV show.

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Speaker 1: Come visit me. You can see my half hour special

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Speaker 1: on Netflix, season three of the Stand Ups.

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Speaker 3: That is right there on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: You can listen to my podcast Couples Therapy, which Roz

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Speaker 1: has been on, as well as my podcast I Love

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Speaker 1: a Lifetime Movie and that is a podcast where yes

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Speaker 1: we recap Lifetime movies.

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Speaker 3: All right, So it is what it is and you

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Speaker 3: better just get on board. And also June seventh.

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Speaker 1: Starting June seventh, you'll be able to see a new

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Speaker 1: five minute that I did on Netflix on That's My

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Speaker 1: Time with David Letterman.

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh my god, Naomi, and you made time for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm honored.

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Speaker 3: No better way to spend today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to the lovely, hilarious Naomi Eggparagan. Make sure

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Speaker 2: you got to patreon dot com slash rosdres Fales link

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Speaker 2: and description for a weekly podcast This Week of me

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Speaker 2: talking about paranormal stuff on my own and a weekly video.

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Speaker 2: Please subscribe and tell your friends I want ghost stories.

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Speaker 2: Send me ghost stories ghosted by Ros at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: You can send them. We have a Facebook group called

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Speaker 2: Ghosted by Roz Hernandez and or you can leave in

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Speaker 2: a five star review and tell your friends about the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm on Instagram at Roz Hernandez, TikTok and Twitter, her

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Speaker 2: is at It's Ra's Hernandez. And I love you. I

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Speaker 2: love you all, both living and dead. But if I

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Speaker 2: didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Okay back.

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Speaker 2: Star Beans a podcast network