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Speaker 1: Pushkin Hay Slight Changers Maya here. I'm excited to share

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Speaker 1: that next week we're coming back with season four of

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Speaker 1: A Slight Change of Plans. Every week you'll hear an

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Speaker 1: inspiring story of change with guests like Jody Patterson, whose

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Speaker 1: son came out as transgender when he was just shy

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Speaker 1: of three years old. And I looked into Penelope's eyes

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Speaker 1: and Penelope said the most phenomenal words, Mama, everyone thinks

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Speaker 1: I'm a girl and I'm not. I am a boy.

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Speaker 1: And Kate Bohler, a religious scholar whose own belief system

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Speaker 1: was called into question when she was diagnosed with stage

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Speaker 1: four cancer at age thirty five. I spent years studying

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Speaker 1: people who believe that they deserve what they get, and

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Speaker 1: I never once imagine myself to be that kind of person.

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Speaker 1: And then when I could hear myself saying, but aren't

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Speaker 1: I kind of a good person, it was like that

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Speaker 1: bit was so deeply humbling, and I realized, like, oh, things,

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Speaker 1: things come apart. We'll also hear from Scott Manky, who

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Speaker 1: is a contestant on the game show Jeopardy and was

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Speaker 1: surprised when the audience reacted not just to his performance,

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Speaker 1: but to who he was as a person. One of

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Speaker 1: the first comments that I remember seeing was this person saying,

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Speaker 1: I really like Scott's demeanor on the show. I didn't

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Speaker 1: expect that reaction. It seemed to be like they liked

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Speaker 1: who I was and they thought I'd seemed like a

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Speaker 1: nice person. And as always, we'll hear from experts on

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Speaker 1: the science of change, like psychologist Ethan Cross, who teaches

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Speaker 1: us how to manage our mental chatter, that inner voice

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Speaker 1: in our heads that can sometimes drive us nuts. And

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Speaker 1: psychologist i yell at Fishbock, who shares strategies to help

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Speaker 1: us stay motivated as we pursue our goals and try

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Speaker 1: and change our lives for the better. I'm Maya Schunker,

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Speaker 1: and this is a Slight Change of Plans, a show

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Speaker 1: about who we are and who we become in the

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Speaker 1: face of a big change. Subscribe to Pushkin Plus to

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Speaker 1: hear the whole season, add free and get episodes a

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Speaker 1: week early. You can find Pushkin Plus on the Slight

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Speaker 1: Change of Plans show page, an Apple Podcasts, or at

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Speaker 1: pushkin dot Fm.