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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows That. We are so excited

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Speaker 1: to announce that today is our first day on iHeart

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Speaker 1: Podcast under the Elvis Duran Podcast network. So let's get

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Speaker 1: started with the story of the day. Yeah, we are

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Speaker 1: so excited. Our first story today is out of India.

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Speaker 1: So for about two to three days, this twenty three

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Speaker 1: year old male was experiencing severe indigestion and he had

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Speaker 1: some floating. So when he went to the doctor, they

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Speaker 1: did a routine exam and they found a live cockroach

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Speaker 1: in his body. How o mfg. This is seriously like

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Speaker 1: a worst nightmare. I don't even want to see a

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Speaker 1: cockroach outside on the street, let alone inside of my body. No, absolute,

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Speaker 1: I mean remember on our first episode we talked about

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Speaker 1: that spider that crawled into that woman's vagina. This is

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Speaker 1: reminding me of that. Yeah, just any any bug, even

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Speaker 1: just is. So it's so disturbing. No, I don't really

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Speaker 1: get grossed out by many bugs, but cockroaches. This is

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Speaker 1: kind of a little background with my history of cockroaches.

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Speaker 1: We had a big problem with them in the city

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Speaker 1: hospital I used to work with and when we would

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Speaker 1: go down to the Morgan turn on the lights, they

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Speaker 1: would just scatter around the floor. They were coming up

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Speaker 1: out of the the the drains. It was so gross.

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Speaker 1: And one day we used to find them in the

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Speaker 1: lab all the time too, And one of the secretaries

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Speaker 1: was sitting there and we used to see them in

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Speaker 1: you know when you have a drop ceiling and there's

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Speaker 1: that clear light, that plastic that covers the light. We

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Speaker 1: used to see like their dead bodies through that light, right,

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Speaker 1: And one day we were disgusted. I know, it's so disgusting.

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Speaker 1: And one day we were sitting there one of our

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Speaker 1: secretaries and it fell out of the sea onto her

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Speaker 1: jacket and she started screaming so bad. She rightfully, so wait,

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Speaker 1: let me tell just let me tell you another funny

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Speaker 1: story about a cockroach. So, since we had such a

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Speaker 1: bad problem with cockroaches, we thought one day it would

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Speaker 1: be funny to trick one of the pathologists, right, so

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Speaker 1: we took it. We took it into the lab and

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Speaker 1: we made a slide out of it and we said,

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Speaker 1: so they do this thing called frozen sections during surgeries,

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Speaker 1: which is when we look at things in pathology under

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Speaker 1: the microscope, and then we called the surgeon back and

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Speaker 1: let them know what we're looking at because it helps

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Speaker 1: guide the surgeon's surgery. Right, So we thought it would

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Speaker 1: be really funny if we played a joke on one

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Speaker 1: of the pathologists. So we froze the cockroach that we found, right,

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Speaker 1: and we put it on a microscope slide and it

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Speaker 1: barely stuck on the slide because of the exoskeleton and stuff,

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Speaker 1: but we got pieces of the bug on the slide

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Speaker 1: and we went into the pathologist's office and we were

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Speaker 1: just like this gut sent down for a frozen section.

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Speaker 1: They said they found it in someone's ear, what is it?

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Speaker 1: And the talctor looked at it and was like, well,

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Speaker 1: it looks like it's part of an instuct I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And we were just like, no,

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Speaker 1: we were just messing with them. It was really funny.

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Speaker 1: But so yeah, getting to the exoskeleton though, I think

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Speaker 1: in this guy's stomach. I mean when they say cockroaches

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Speaker 1: like never die there really meaning if this guy was able. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: still alive. I'm sure that people in Jess bogs a

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Speaker 1: want to think about it. I mean. I was listening

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Speaker 1: to another show a couple of weeks ago, and one

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Speaker 1: of it. And then hours went by and she was like,

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Speaker 1: if you see it. In the article, they said that

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Speaker 1: if that might be like a little bit of a stretch,

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Speaker 1: I guess in theory. Yeah, but they don't bite. They

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Speaker 1: think about some bug with scratchy limbs like ripping it up.

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Speaker 1: So how do you get it out? But they had

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Gypsy Rose Blanchard. So for

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Speaker 1: abusive mom. She's one of the most famous cases of

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Speaker 1: Munchausen by proxy, which can you just briefly summarize what

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Speaker 1: that means. Well, Munchausen is when you fake in illness.

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Speaker 1: Usually it's a psychological disorder, and you fake in illness

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Speaker 1: And Munchausen by proxy is when you do that, but

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Speaker 1: for usually, So the most common cases of that happening

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Speaker 1: So sometimes people do it so they could get money

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Speaker 1: So that's basically what happened in their case, and then

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Speaker 1: her whole life. Gypsy was thought to believe by her

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Speaker 1: unless you prove otherwise with the paternity test beforehand. So

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Speaker 1: her boyfriend Ken, not her ex husband Ryan. So what's

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Speaker 1: is what's cool is how they were able to find

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Speaker 1: how does that work. So what happens is when you're pregnant,

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Speaker 1: which is called plasma. Well, within that plasma, they're able

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Speaker 1: chance that this is the father. So they don't recommend

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Speaker 1: else's child, or you know what I mean. There's like

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Speaker 1: really crazy is if you've ever had a bone marrow transplant,

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Speaker 1: is crazy to think about. So there's all different reasons,

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Speaker 1: but in her particular case, it's these two men are

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Speaker 1: very far enough apart to say, Okay, this one is

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Speaker 1: definitely the father. Yeah, I mean it's certainly interesting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and people are like, why are you celebrating this person

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Speaker 1: And I think over the next couple of years, babe,

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Speaker 1: like they're in their room. You think they're on TikTok.

429
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: You don't. You can't like monitor a kid all day

430
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: long and know what they're doing. And if this kid's

431
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: even saying that they have a relationship, how do you

432
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: even know it's not just a kid they go to

433
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: school with like a real person, you know what I mean.

434
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you don't. And they're arguing that

435
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: this is creating this whole other, like deeper level of

436
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: problems we're gonna see with teenagers because you know, with

437
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: social media, teenagers are not socializing as much, They're not

438
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: going out as much as they used to, which is

439
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: creating these harmful psychological effects. And now if you could

440
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: basically go on a website and form your ideal best

441
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: friend that never has conflict with you, why are you

442
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: ever gonna leave ever again? What? Like? Aside from this

443
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: being a child, what is the point of this technology

444
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: for any human? I don't know. I guess what's the

445
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: what's the benefit to have friends that aren't real? I

446
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: don't really know what your goal is, Like it's I

447
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: guess it's to give you this, you know, entertainment experience

448
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: that you're connecting with your favorite character on TV. But

449
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: I agree with you, what's the purpose beyond entertainment? And

450
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: I feel like they didn't really have, you know, any

451
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: safety guidelines in place for children using this. It's kind

452
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: of the conversation we've been having for a while about

453
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: roadblocks right, Yeah, And do you know that the number

454
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: two cause of death and kids that are ten to

455
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: fourteen years old is suicide And it's it's so upsetting,

456
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of it is surrounded. There was

457
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: a case of a young girl that was getting bullied

458
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: online and a lot of it is centered around the

459
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: internet stuff, you know what I mean. It's just and

460
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: it's increasing and it's just so terrible. But I hate

461
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: to talk about stories like this on here because we

462
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 1: like to try to have as much fun as possible.

463
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: But there's certain things that I think parents just need

464
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: to know is out there, and this is one of them.

465
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I'm curious how. I'm curious how

466
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: they took like how the conversation escalated to the phrase

467
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: coming home to being him taking his own life. I

468
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: just wonder if they're gonna look at the they're gonna

469
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: have to look at the conversation history and how it

470
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: built to that point. Yeah, because I bet I would

471
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: bet that the company would argue that the AI didn't

472
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: know that that was adult. I was actually just thinking

473
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: that too, because it's it's not a traditional like it

474
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: might have flags. If if you're saying I want to

475
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: kill myself, right, but if you're not using those specific terms,

476
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: well it might not though, because it said he was

477
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: pretty open about his suicidal ideation, So yeah, are you

478
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: that in code words or I'm not sure? It is

479
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: interesting though, So his family is suing the company obviously

480
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: because they think he that the that the AI was

481
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: a large contributing factor and encouraging this boy to take

482
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: his own life. And then the same day the lawsuit

483
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: was filed, they had updated their community safety program just

484
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: saying it was including guardrails for children and suicide prevention resources.

485
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: But like, why wasn't that in before? Yeah, exactly, they don't.

486
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: None of these things are doing enough to protect children.

487
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: And I guess the scariest part of that is that

488
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: the kids are the smartest ones to use these devices

489
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: and figure shit out and get around things. They're they're

490
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: way smart. Is that why they're smarter than the adults

491
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: to get around things? I don't know, it's just well

492
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: they could be I think. Also a big argument this

493
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: article had was that children's brains are not fully developed,

494
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: so like they also don't know how to differentiate like

495
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: fantasy from reality kind of, so like, is something in

496
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: their brain not like this isn't a real person. They

497
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't be taking their advice seriously because it's AI. I

498
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: think this is a huge problem. I think this is,

499
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, just the beginning of major problems we're gonna

500
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: start seeing with AI. Yeah, all right, let's get into

501
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: something a little bit more lighter, like a guide keep

502
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: in his dad dead in a freezer so he doesn't

503
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: have to move out. Yeah, totally light. So a few

504
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: weeks ago, police got this online tip that this man

505
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 1: had his father's body in his freezer in a freezer

506
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: in his backyard on the property. So police immediately went

507
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: over to the house and the son obviously would not

508
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: allow them to come in. They didn't have a search

509
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: WIGN or anything at the time, and he was like, well,

510
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: that's weird that you'd even think that because my dad

511
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: died four years ago. Now at this point when the

512
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: cops come, wouldn't you be like, shit, I got to

513
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: get rid of the body. Yeah, but clearly there's a

514
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: chip basic in his brain because like he's not he

515
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: has this body in his freezer. So the police are

516
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: just like, something is not sitting right about this, So

517
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: they're looking further into the matter. And they can't find

518
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: any record of the dad dying. And actually they see

519
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: that the dad's name is still on the deed and

520
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: that he's been collecting Social Security payments until last spring. Yeah,

521
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: so they they this freezer apparently though had been off

522
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: so it's in the yard, but it has been unplugged

523
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: for not working for for FDA six weeks, right, yeah,

524
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: or four to six months. I think four to six weeks. No,

525
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. A while it was. I think it

526
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: said four to six months. It was without power and

527
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: the temperature and so this is in tempe Arizona, Okay,

528
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: in the summer, so the temperature has highs that range

529
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: from mid eighties to one hundred degrees every day. So

530
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: when they go inside this freezer and find the dad,

531
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: he's he's like a human soup mess basically, right, he's

532
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: and he's wrapped up in all this stuff. They said

533
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: that he had ratchet straps and then multiple layers of

534
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: duct tape, and then several layers of saran wrap, and

535
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: then bed sheets and then two blankets and then a

536
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: tarp wrapped around his body. And they just found skeletonized, slash,

537
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: decomposed slash human soup remains inside of this freezer. Yeah,

538
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: they said, extensive amount of biological matter that must have

539
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: spelled real great when they opened the lid on that. Yeah,

540
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: obviously after they started researching, if they were able to

541
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: finally get the search far and so they were like,

542
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: all right, well, and you would think, like you said,

543
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: why wouldn't if you know they're looking around, why wouldn't

544
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: you then take the opportunity to move the body? And

545
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: he had told them that he had. He had planned

546
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: on moving it eventually to either burying it a plot

547
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: of land that he had purchased. He even was saying

548
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: that he tried to bury him in the desert a

549
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: few times, but there was quote always people there. She's

550
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: not suspicious or anything. But well, I guess to his defense,

551
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: like now that we describe the condition that the body

552
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: was in, maybe I mean, what are you going to

553
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: do at that point? You know what I mean? Like,

554
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a huge mess to deal with and

555
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: regular people can cannot just stomach that, right. Yeah, But

556
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: ultimately his goal in all of this was he didn't

557
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: want to move, So that's that's why he did it.

558
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: But they don't know how the dad died yet so

559
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: obviously he's been arrested right now, and they're trying to

560
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: figure out the cause of death because I mean, and

561
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: and really, if I mean, if the guy got shot

562
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: or he got beat to death with a baseball bat

563
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: or something, they'll be able to tell from the bones, right,

564
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: but if a lot of the soft tissue is missing,

565
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: they might just never really be able to figure out

566
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: exactly what happened to him, you know, because I think

567
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: it's important to bring up that we've talked about cases

568
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: before where people have been living with a dead relative

569
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 1: but they've died of natural causes or something and they

570
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: just can't emotionally let them go. I mean, that didn't

571
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: that happen with Amy Carlson, the leader of the Love

572
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: Has One cult that she died of natural causes and

573
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: then they just like kept her mummified body in a

574
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: back room. So like, technically nobody could get arrested with

575
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: a crime, but it's definicult. No, I think you can

576
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: get I think you, I mean, this guy is gonna

577
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: get I think he's getting arrested, right, but it's because

578
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: arrested because they don't know how the guy died. And

579
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some fraud involved with cashing stars. Yeah,

580
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: that's what I was going to say. The security would

581
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: be a thing, but I don't, I don't think because

582
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: you can get in trouble for not properly handling a

583
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: corpse correctly, it could be considered abuse of a corpse,

584
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: So you can that is technically a crime, even if

585
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: he was just let's pretend he was just a sad

586
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: son that, you know, whatever, But this would be abuse

587
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: of a corpse because he was essentially using that to

588
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, get money. It's the same thing as the

589
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: lady putting a dead body in the car and going

590
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: to the bank drive through last year, right and trying

591
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: to get the guy's money out, or bringing the guy

592
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: inside the dead guy inside the bank to try to

593
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: get money. It's even though she technically didn't kill him

594
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: and wasn't hurting him, Like, that's not ain't cool, you

595
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Well, I think with Amy Carlson,

596
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: they had arrested the people in the house originally, but

597
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: then found that you know, there was I guess, abusive corpse,

598
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: but nothing really happened to them because they didn't really

599
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: like they weren't stealing her mind, right, So this they're

600
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: gonna get this guy on something, even if this old

601
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: man happened to die of natural causes. And then he

602
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, I don't want to have to move,

603
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna keep him in the freezer. But

604
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to this next story. So back

605
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, this twenty four year old male had

606
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: been found dead in his truck with a gunshot wound

607
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: to his head, and for a while, police didn't know

608
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: who did it until twenty seventeen when someone came forward

609
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: and said that this man named Jesse and two other

610
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: guys were involved in the shooting. So it turns out

611
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: that the victim had been threatening to release nude photos

612
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: of Jesse's stepdaughter, and when he went to confront him,

613
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: it just went really wrong and he ended up killing

614
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: the guy. I understand, like, when I'm reading this, I'm

615
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: always protective of people with their kids, and I always

616
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: think like, Okay, I would do the same thing. And

617
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: I think if this was happening to us, and let's say, Gabe,

618
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: so your Gabe's stepdaughter and someone was threatening to do

619
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: that to you, he would one hundred percent, quote, go

620
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: have words with the guy, right that would happen now,

621
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: and I am one hundred percent okay with that. Bringing

622
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: a gun to a situation like that is a terrible

623
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: idea because shit's gonna you're you're going to get pissed off, right,

624
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: So I don't think the guy desire deserve to die

625
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: for this. Like if you're now we had a case,

626
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: when do we talk about this case recently? It just

627
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: a dad killed somebody because he was sexually abusing the

628
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: child or something like that, or it was within this year.

629
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: I know that it's been in the news. I just

630
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: don't know if we covered it in those cases. I'm

631
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: like completely, I'm completely fine with with that. Honestly, if

632
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: somebody ever like sexually abuses a person or anything like that,

633
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: then then do the vigilante shit. I'm totally fine with it.

634
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: But this did a guy deserve to die over pictures? Like? Eh?

635
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this guy is okay with it.

636
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: He's smiling in his bugshot. He just got sentenced to

637
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: forty years in jail, so oh yeah, he's hype. He's

638
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: like he thinks he did something good. I don't. I

639
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: just think that that's kind of it. I understand, you

640
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: get pissed off about it, and it's not cool that

641
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,560
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655
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: back in twenty eleven, this guy started having health issues

656
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: and noticed that his belly began to grow. Initially, he

657
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: was diagnosed with type two diabetes and obesity, so he said,

658
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: over the course of a couple of years, he kept

659
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: visiting doctors. They kept blowing aloft, telling him that he

660
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: was obese. They even had him take nutrition classes and

661
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: then prescribed him ozimbic, which made his face and his

662
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: arms and legs get really skinny, but nothing was making

663
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: his belly go down and why was that. So they

664
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: scheduled him for a gastric sleeve, which is when they

665
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: take a portion of the stomach and they reduce the

666
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: size of it. And this is a surgery that they

667
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: do in patients with obesity because it helps them eat less.

668
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: In theory, it helps strength their stomach down eat less food,

669
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: and then they would lose weight and a lot of

670
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: patients have success with that. So while they had him

671
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: scheduled for this surgery, and while they're working him up,

672
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: they figure out that he doesn't actually have obesity at all.

673
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: He actually has a sixty pound tumor inside of his

674
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: abdomen that was causing his belly to be so big.

675
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know a thing like this.

676
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: I don't understand because as soon as I saw I

677
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: mean obviously I read the title of the article, so

678
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: I knew what was happening. But as soon as I

679
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: looked at him from a medical professional aspect, I could

680
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: tell like, he's not obese because his abdomen is huge,

681
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean huge, huge, huge, like pregnant with quadruplet looking huge,

682
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: and his arms and legs are completely normal size. So

683
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: especially I mean maybe at first if he was heavier

684
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: than that would have been hard for them to determine,

685
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: but especially after he lost all that weight from being

686
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: on ozempic and his belly did not reduce in size,

687
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: but his arms and legs and faded. It's just amazing

688
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: to be that nothing clued off physicians. That's to even

689
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: think about that. It's it's so outrageous. I mean, if

690
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: you get a scan, can they not tell the difference

691
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: between fat and then they can? But he didn't have

692
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: a scan, yeah, and that that seems that tolience that

693
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: could be. Yeah, but if they think someone someone's obese,

694
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: they're not just gonna do a scan, Like why would

695
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: they they? I guess the argument is because he kept

696
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: going back and being like like something isn't right. You're

697
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: not understanding, So why wouldn't they just do it to

698
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: rule it out? I don't I don't know why, but

699
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: they that's not like the normal protocol is if you

700
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: go in and you weigh a lot, and they diagnose

701
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: you with obesity, they give you these medications. I mean

702
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: that's that's normal. But on physical exam, I would think

703
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: that they you know, when you go to the doctor

704
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: and you lay down and they push on your belly,

705
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: this is what they're looking for. They're trying to feel

706
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: if you have a hard ass tumor inside of your body.

707
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: That's why they push on you, right, And this definitely

708
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: would have been able to be spelt for sure that

709
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: something wasn't right. So I guess he never had a

710
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: physical exam, and then when he was getting prepared to

711
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: get the gastric sleeve, I don't know exactly how, like

712
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: what keyed them off, Like I don't know if they

713
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: do imaging prior to that surgery or if they did

714
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: finally just lay them down and feel around or whatever

715
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: they did. That's how they determined that he had this.

716
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: And they said that he had So the tumor's huge.

717
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: It was sixty pounds or twenty seven kilograms, and it

718
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: was twenty inches or fifty two centimeters in diameter, which

719
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: is just it's just absolutely huge. I mean, it's ten

720
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: hours to get out. So it was a fatty tumor

721
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: called this is what I'm assuming because they said it

722
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: was a fatty tumor that had some cancer in it.

723
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that it's a light bosarcoma, which is

724
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: a tumor that's composed of fat cells basically, and some

725
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: of them have malignant transformation or turn into cancer. The

726
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: problem is is that this cancer could end up being

727
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: pretty nasty, and it definitely would have been better if

728
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: it was caught when it was five or ten centimeters

729
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: across instead of fifty two, right, But I mean, it's

730
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: just it's just so nuts. And so they were able

731
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: to take out most of it, so that's called the

732
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: like a debulking surgery. They'd take out all of it

733
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: so he could have comfort. They took out one of

734
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: his kidneys, they took out a part of his bow,

735
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: but they weren't able to get all the tumor out,

736
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: So he still has cancer now and there's a high

737
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: probability that it's going to grow back, so and he

738
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: could die from this potentially, right, And they are suing doctors,

739
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: which I absolutely think they should because it's it's completely ridiculous. Yeah,

740
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: But they're also saying that his lawsuit initially got dismissed

741
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: because it was such a rare form. It was such

742
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: a rare tumor that it could be hard for doctors

743
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: to dismiss, which I still feel like is total bullshit. No, like,

744
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: where is it? Is this in America? No, it was

745
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: in Norway. I think I'm just I don't know. I

746
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: always think that because I'm just like no that I

747
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: think it's more it's a more rare it's a more

748
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: rare tumor. But there's definitely it doesn't matter, like what

749
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: what if it was a very common tumor. They missed

750
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: a tumor, that's the bottom line, and he nothing cares

751
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: what it was. So he was from Germany and he

752
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: moved to Norway, and nothing bothers me more than somebody

753
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: that's proactively like something ain't right with my body and

754
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: people are just like, no, it's this, No, it's this,

755
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: and then something horrible like this happens. It's not like

756
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: he blew it off. Well, if he had this mass

757
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: that usually arises from the like the inside of the

758
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: abdominal wall or any it can arise from fat, but

759
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: that's usually where it is. But just think about this thing,

760
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: like it's fifty two centimeters is like it's bigger than

761
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: a basketball. It's a huge ball. Right, think about that

762
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: underneath of your stomach compressing your organs, like he had

763
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: to just be completely uncomfortable, not to mention that his

764
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: bell was just sticking out and huge. Yeah, you know,

765
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: I actually used to work with somebody who was an

766
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: older woman. And when I say older, it means she

767
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: wasn't she wasn't old enough to be pregnant, but she

768
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: was probably in her late fifties or early sixties, and

769
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 1: she would walk she was walking around, and we started

770
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: noticing like she kind of like her belly looks like

771
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: she's pregnant. She never looked like that before. But this

772
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: is like a very touchy subject with a woman because

773
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: you don't want to say like, hey, are you gaining weight?

774
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: You know, you don't yeah, say your belly looks big,

775
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: right until finally one day because we're all in the

776
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: medical field, that we're just like, dude, you got to

777
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: go get this checked out, like something's not right, because

778
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: it gives you a look like the guy has in

779
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: that picture, just like the skinny arms and the big belly,

780
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: and you know that's when you have to be like,

781
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: this person isn't gaining weight. They have something going on.

782
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: And sure enough, she had a huge ovarian cyst which

783
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: ended up having some pieces of cancer in it as well. Well,

784
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, doctor, we were just like, doesn't she go

785
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: to the doctor the doctor she did. She did tell

786
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: us after she finally got diagnosed, that she had told

787
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: her doctor her husband had said to the doctor, why

788
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: is my wife's belly so big? And they like kind

789
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: of blew her off. Well. I think for some people too,

790
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: that these changes happen so slowly that they don't even

791
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: necessarily recognize their happening themselves. Right, But sometimes, like especially

792
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: you guys are all in the medical field, and you

793
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: know that means something's wrong. It's probably a really uncomfortable

794
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: conversation to have. But she should be grateful because you

795
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: helped her. You know. It's not like you were just

796
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: being a jerk and just being like, oh you look

797
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: like now I know, yeah, you know. It's it's just

798
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: it's just awkward to you know, when you're in this field,

799
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: as you know, Maria, when when I'm when I'm walking around,

800
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: I see a lot of shit like, oh my god,

801
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: this person has this, This person has this? Did they

802
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: do they know they have this? She tells, you'll go

803
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: up to somebody be like, oh, you have this condition

804
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: of like yo, you can't just it's hard somebody, it's

805
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: just hard to it's just hard to ignore it, you know.

806
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: So so you know, our antenna goes up because it's

807
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: like we've been trained to have our minds be triggered

808
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: when we see something abnormal like that. So all right,

809
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: well let's get on to the next one. Last month,

810
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: in India, this fourteen year old boy suddenly started experiencing

811
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: breathing issues, which obviously concerned his parents, so they brought

812
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: them to the doctor. And at first they found a

813
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: blockage in his nose, which they said was successfully treated,

814
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: and then soon after the boy developed severe abdominal pain

815
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: and scans had revealed that he had nineteen foreign objects

816
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: in his body initially, so it gets worse. And then

817
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: he was transferred to another hospital where they discovered forty

818
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: two foreign objects and all in all he had sixty

819
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: five in his body. So it seems that this boy

820
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: was from and I think this is an important part

821
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: of the story, was from a poor village in India, okay,

822
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: And that's why he was going from like doctor to clinic,

823
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: to hospital to hospital. It seems like he went to

824
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: and every single time it was like, oh, there's nineteen, Oh,

825
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: there's forty, Oh, there's sixty five. So finally when they

826
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: when they figured out that he had ingested sixty five things,

827
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: they went in to do the surgery and unfortunately they

828
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: say that he died from an intestinal infection. What I

829
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: think based upon what he ingested, which was batteries, which

830
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: are known to they could actually eat right through the

831
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: lining of the bow, causing a perforation, razor blades which

832
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: could obviously cut through the bow, and screws, I'm assuming

833
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: that one of those items perforated or put a hole

834
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: into the colon, which then caused the poop that's inside

835
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: of the colon to leak in the abdomen, and then

836
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: bacteria gets all inside and then it could spread throughout

837
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: the body and cause step sysn't kill somebody. His dad

838
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: is confused because he said that he was perfectly mentally

839
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: and physically healthy, which usually in most cases. This is

840
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: a condition called pika when people eat food that has

841
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: no nutritional value and it's either due to mental illness

842
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: like autism, schizophrena, or something like that, and it's also

843
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: due to nutritional deficiencies as well. So I would argue

844
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: that he was not okay obviously. Yeah, And I mean

845
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: imagine each set of doctors he went to. So it's

846
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: like first they think there's nineteen things, which is a lot,

847
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: and then they open them up and see there's even more,

848
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: and then to find out in total it ends up

849
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: being sixty five items. It's insane, Like I would be

850
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: freaking out if I swallowed one thing by accident. But

851
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: we've talked about on this show a lot. You know.

852
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: We had that woman that ate like an entire box

853
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: of crowns. Right, those are the coloring wax for people

854
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: that can't. I know. I was like, you're gonna get

855
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: in trouble for that one. Someone on the Instagram was

856
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: making fun of our accent the way far said for forehead,

857
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you supposed to say for head? Like,

858
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, listener head. The Philadelphia, South Jersey accent

859
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: is a unique one, but you're just gonna have also

860
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: the best one. I'll never forget when this is the

861
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: I never really knew anything about it and realized it.

862
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: And the very first time I was going to some

863
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: psychology conference when I was like twenty years old, and

864
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: it was in San Diego and I was I go

865
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: to the front of the hotel to check in and

866
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: and the person behind me was like, are you from Philly?

867
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, creep, why are you talking

868
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: to me? You know, He's like, I could hear it

869
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: in your voice one hundred percent, And I was like, really,

870
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: that's I thought i'd talk normal. I guess not. It's funny, yeah,

871
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean. The funny thing for me is this show

872
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: came out a couple of years ago called May of

873
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: Eastown that was set in like Delco. And you know,

874
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: Kate Winslet was trained by a person to do a

875
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: Philly accent. While she did go a little too far

876
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: into it, but Zelco is a completely different actions. People

877
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: were like, we do not have that one. No, people

878
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: in Delgo really we don't sound like that, And like

879
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: you do. Trust me. My husband partially grew up in Delco.

880
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: He has it really bad. We have the worst South

881
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: Jersey accents. Like it's very strong. So you're just gonna think,

882
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: get over it. Get back to the person that was

883
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: eating crayons. They were eating crowns, crowns crayons. And then

884
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: we had another case of a woman that ate what

885
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 1: seventy two pieces of silverware. Yeah, and we have kids

886
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: that eat hair all the time, and just there's a

887
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: lot of different conditions. One thing to note that's interesting

888
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: actually is that it does commonly happen in people that

889
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: grow up in low socioeconomic situations like this kid, and

890
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: they don't really know what the correlation is, but they

891
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: think it could be a combination of the poor nutrition

892
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: that they have, and also just it's kind of a

893
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: coping mechanism, like a lot of people eat these non

894
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: nutritional items to reduce stress. So that's why I thought

895
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: it was important to say where he was from. And

896
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: also if he was from a more populated area and

897
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: went to the hospital originally instead of being sent to

898
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: a couple different places before they finally did surgery on him,

899
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: he probably would have survived this. In the lab I've

900
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: gotten it's weird. I used to have this patient that

901
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: was schizophrenic and we would get things that he swallowed

902
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: every single week, and it was crazy shit. He like

903
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: tips of knives, Like the dude sat there and cut

904
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: the tips off of knives. It was so crazy, with

905
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: shards of glass and screws, and but they would go

906
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: in and oscopy, take them out and that's it. And

907
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: then we would get them and then he'd come back

908
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: the next week, and it just kept going and going.

909
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: But usually you don't have to die from this if

910
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: you get adequate medical treatment. You know, what do you

911
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: think his medical bills looked like if he was coming

912
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: to the hospital and having to get endoscopiece like every

913
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: single week. No, God, I don't even want to think

914
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: about it a lot, but hopefully as assurance. All right.

915
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: So a fifty one year old man went to the

916
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: emergency room with some pain in his penis. He had

917
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: a history of PTSD, antisocial personality disorder, and self mutilation.

918
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: So it turns out that he was inserting batteries, paper

919
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: clips and eventually they found out toothpaste caps into his urethra.

920
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: Do you know what your wreathral sounding is? And nil?

921
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: It's kind of an autoerotic thing that people do for

922
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: sexual gratification, that they stick foreign objects and tapers and

923
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: things up their urethra because they said that it feels good.

924
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: It's more commonly done in men than women. But this

925
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: is this may be a case of it. There's also

926
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: other reasons that people do it like this. Guy might

927
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: not have been doing it because of that, because he

928
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: has all of these other things going on, He might

929
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: not have been doing it for sexual cideific says, actually,

930
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: well why can't I why can't I talk today? But yeah,

931
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: so that's what happened. But he's done this before, by

932
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: the way, and when he went to the hospital this time,

933
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: he was begging staff to put him in restraints to

934
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: control his impulsive behavior to want to self mutilate, which

935
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: is so sad. It's really really sad, it really is,

936
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 1: because you're like aware of it, but you can't control

937
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: it enough to stop doing it. Yeah, And I don't

938
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: know why he has PTSD, he has antisocial personality disorder

939
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: and stuff. I hope I know that they gave him

940
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: some kind of medication to stop his impulsivity and hopefully

941
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: that helps him. And he ended up getting released how

942
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if it says how long he was

943
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: in the hospital, but they took it out. He had

944
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: some kind of irritation to his urethra obviously from sticking

945
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: items like that up there. But we have cases in

946
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: the gross room of people who were doing it for

947
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: sexual pleasure, and we have one case of a pen

948
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: and that person got the pencil up inside their bladder

949
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: and it was there for a long time that a

950
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: bladderstone formed around the pencil. We have one that someone

951
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: stuck a fork in their penisle. We recently did, and

952
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: we do and we had the one with the hairpin

953
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: that was from a female. Actually that Yeah, it excuse

954
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: me out so bad. It does for me too, because

955
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: it's it's a pin. I guess it's a hairpinner. It's

956
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: it's a pin. It looks like a sewing needle with

957
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: a pearl on top. I don't know what they're called.

958
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: I think there's what use that in your hair? No,

959
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: I think they're just sewing pins. Yeah, but they have

960
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: the thicker end on so it doesn't go through the fabric. Okay,

961
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, but they're I think they're

962
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: used for scarves or something. You know what I'm talking about,

963
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: Like those really huge ones, some of them up in

964
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: my boat. Yeah, I know, you're like a scar like

965
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: a par for a brooch or something. Yeah. Like it's

966
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: like a huge pin with a pearl on top, which

967
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: makes it so disturbing. And you know, the woman just

968
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: said that she enjoyed sticking it up there. Oh my god,

969
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: it just sounds terrible. But yeah, it's a thing. Yeah,

970
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: not for me, but I guess for some others. But

971
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: he was discharged to a long term psychiatric facility, so

972
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: hopefully there he could get whatever help he needs to

973
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: stop too serious. Yeah, that's terrible. All right. I'm curious

974
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: about your opinions on this next story. Because you've had

975
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: kids in the last ten years. You're gonna know my

976
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: opinions on this. We should start like a series trying

977
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: to guess because you just know how I am. All right. So,

978
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: a twenty six year old new mom has been facing

979
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: mixed reviews after posting a TikTok telling her mother that

980
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: she shouldn't kiss her newborn baby. Did you just see

981
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: me roll my eyes? Because that's how I feel about it.

982
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: This is really popular amongst my generation of mothers because

983
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: people are well, it started you guys have too much

984
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: time on your hands and your losers that are on

985
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: social media all day listening to other people's ideas and

986
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: instead of using your own ideas. It started during COVID

987
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: because people were worried about babies getting COVID, and then

988
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: it just progressed like into you know, people come into

989
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: the hospital that are old and slabber their kisses on

990
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: a newborn baby, and then the baby gets sick, and

991
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: then they could, you know, be in a really serious situation.

992
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: But obviously you have different opinions on this. So when

993
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: I had you, I remember that when I took you home,

994
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: the doctor said that we should keep you in the

995
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: house for a month after you were born, yes, and

996
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: it was around Christmas, because you were born on December fifth,

997
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: And I remember being like, oh cool, I can't go

998
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: to the mall during Christmas. This is like my favorite

999
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: time of year, right, But it it makes sense, I

1000
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: understand the theory of it, because a baby doesn't have

1001
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: a very strong immune system. They can't fight off everything.

1002
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: They haven't formed an immune system enough. They only have

1003
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: like leftover from when they were inside the mom right,

1004
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: and they're not old enough to get back scenes and

1005
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: all this stuff and little things could can get them sick.

1006
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: So that I remember that when you were born, so

1007
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: you're thirty almost. When you were born, that was a thing.

1008
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: But then when I had Lillian and Lucia over ten

1009
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: years ago, around ten years ago, that doesn't seem to

1010
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: be a thing. Anymore. People are like, go, I see

1011
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: people out all the time with a baby that just

1012
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: came out of their vagiety. They're like, oh, I just

1013
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: had the baby on Tuesday, and it'll be like Saturday

1014
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: or Sunday. You know. You're just like, what, Yeah, I

1015
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: see this baby in public right now. I see a

1016
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: lot of my neighbors walking around with like really like

1017
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: total fresh born yesterday. You can walk around like the

1018
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: neighborhood and stuff, but just to be at the mall

1019
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: or like, that's that to me is a little like

1020
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: I do understand the caution of it, but to tell

1021
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: I also think that there's a certain level of like

1022
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: bonding with the grandparents and not just grandparents but just

1023
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: with the baby and jack because if the if the

1024
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: you're I think that there's like this weird control thing

1025
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: that your generation has. It happened with the mask and

1026
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: everything during COVID. It's like, well, then do they not

1027
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: kiss the baby? Either they don't kiss their baby. Nobody

1028
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: kisses the baby. Is that what we're or it's just

1029
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: like you're controlling who can do it? Like I don't

1030
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: like that. I don't like it. And also obviously like

1031
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: if your mom has a giant herb on her lip,

1032
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: be like yo, maybe like keep that away right. Well,

1033
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: I think for me this is where it would be

1034
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: a problem because I think I have certain members of

1035
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: my family that would knowingly be sick and do it

1036
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: anyway because they can't help themselves. But if they're holding

1037
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: the baby, it doesn't they're not. I'm saying, like holding

1038
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: the kid, the fresh kid that I just delivered, and

1039
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: like kissing them on the mouth, which I don't really

1040
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: think people should be kissing babies on the mouth. Is

1041
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: this what we're talking about? Kissing a baby on the mouth,

1042
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: like kissing a baby on their face and around their mouth,

1043
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking about just like holding a baby like

1044
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: in your arms or on your lap and just kissing

1045
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: their head. Well, like who kisses them like on their mouth?

1046
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: People do, trust me, it's been like that that just

1047
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: shouldn't happen anyway, because that's just weird. On their head

1048
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: is like chill out, Like they're just kissing their head.

1049
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: It's the same thing as holding them. But like there

1050
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: are certainly people that kiss babies like really close to

1051
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: their mouth and on their like all over their face,

1052
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: and it's like you shouldn't be kissing a baby like that,

1053
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: that's not your baby. It's weird. Yeah, I don't know.

1054
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I get the theory of it,

1055
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: but I think it's it's the same as every other theory.

1056
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to do that, then it's

1057
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: like people will never have sex anymore, and people just

1058
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: like will never leave the house without a respirator on,

1059
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: and like, come on, just live a little, Just live

1060
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: a little. It's kind of ridiculous. I mean, the girl

1061
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: is trying to say that her obijuian suggest to this,

1062
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: but I also think, like if you don't want backlash,

1063
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be posting it on TikTok. So like what

1064
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: do you what are what are people saying? I'm curious?

1065
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: Am I? Like? Am I a jerk for not agreeing

1066
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: with No? It's pretty mixed that some people like agreeing

1067
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: with you, Like people people have been having babies for

1068
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: thousands of years and there's like chill out, Like, but

1069
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: there's a thing with your generation that these that people

1070
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: think that their baby's like the most important person and

1071
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: most important thing because we have social media telling us that.

1072
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: But like it's just you're you're not that important, Like

1073
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: there's there's been billions of people before you, and there'll

1074
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: be billions of people after you. It's just kind of like,

1075
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: in my mind, it's like it's very like Karen and controlling.

1076
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about it. In my mind, it's

1077
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: very Karen. But at the same time, like if if

1078
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: that's the boundary she wants to set, respect it. Like

1079
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: somebody just gave birth. They're going through a lot. If

1080
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: they don't want you sloburn on their kid's head, just

1081
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: chill out and just don't do it. Like it's not

1082
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: that big a video. But you're rolling your eyes because

1083
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: you first see me. Listen, I just hate your generation

1084
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: and everyone below you. Just I can't. I just can't

1085
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: deal with the like respect my boundaries, Like shut up.

1086
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: It just sound it's just so ridiculous. Just whatever. You

1087
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: guys got too much time on your hands and no

1088
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: real problems. That's all I gotta say. Okay, we can

1089
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: move on to the other death news now, Okay, Karen, No,

1090
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: there's no there's no Karen. I'm the opposite of Karen

1091
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: in any respect. Trust me. We did pretty Karen right now,

1092
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: Karen and Jenmi. But what time I was complaining about something,

1093
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: and they literally crossed out my name on my business

1094
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: card and wrote, of Karen Quality, you guys are jerks.

1095
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: One time that was like one time today like just hilarious. Whatever.

1096
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: All right, in May, this funeral they get a real problem. Okay,

1097
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: I'll continue. In May, this funeral home director got served

1098
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: with an eviction notice after failing to pay rent for

1099
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: several months. He apparently owed nine thousand dollars, but was

1100
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: able to pull it together and pay that amount in May,

1101
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: but then immediately failed to pay again in June and July.

1102
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: So a couple of weeks ago he got served another

1103
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: eviction notice, and when the cops got to the property

1104
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: to kick him out, they found eighteen dead bodies in

1105
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: quote various stages of decomposition and including a child in that.

1106
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: So I figured out what happened right away. And I

1107
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: feel like we've covered a couple funeral homes across the

1108
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: United States that have had similar circumstances. That these people

1109
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: are their funeral directors, and they get paid money to

1110
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: cremate people, and you know, whatever the person pays not

1111
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know how much it is now eight

1112
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: thousand dollars whatever it is, right, you give this funeral

1113
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: director eight thousand dollars to cremate your family, and then

1114
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: the guy who's in debt is just like, well, I

1115
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,439
Speaker 1: could just give them a box of something that looks

1116
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,919
Speaker 1: like human remains and I could just pocket that money.

1117
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: How would they ever know? The different friends? And they

1118
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: have to do something with the body though, right, because

1119
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: if they're not cremating it. So that's what the guy did.

1120
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: He just stacked up a bunch of bodies and well

1121
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: that's what happened with that Colorado's funeral home, right that,

1122
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: which was like yeah, I mean this, this and this

1123
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: is exactly what happened in this case, which is crazy

1124
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: because the guy could have gotten the idea from the

1125
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: other people and thought maybe he was doing it better,

1126
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: or you would think he heard that story at being

1127
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 1: a funeral director and would be like, oh my god,

1128
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: like this. You can't do this obviously. But now the

1129
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: people that have gotten cremated remains from this guy are questioning,

1130
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: number one, is this my family member? And number two?

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01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: What is it? If it's not even human remains? It

1132
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: might not even be human remains, Yeah, I mean, and

1133
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: they have every right to question it. How are you

1134
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: gonna trust this person? Did that? Do you ask? Did

1135
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: you us have see the craziest part of the story,

1136
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: which is this guy was trying to run for county. Course,

1137
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: yes I saw that, and he lost. He lost the

1138
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: day before he got the first eviction. Oh my gosh,

1139
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: Like imagine if he won and had some kind of

1140
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: political or power over anything like that. I don't even

1141
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: know if he would a government scandal in Coffee County.

1142
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: So no, thanks, Yeah, I mean this wasn't it? Like

1143
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: this casket company said he also owed them nearly ten

1144
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: grand for caskets and a couple of years ago, and

1145
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: then it seemed like he owed another twenty one thousand

1146
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: dollars for unpaid equipment in various other lawsuits. So I

1147
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: feel like we see this a lot like it's it's

1148
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: not a total shocker, like you don't want to believe

1149
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: something like this is happening, but it's not one hundred

1150
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: percent of surprise because this person's usually in a bunch

1151
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: of other legal drama as well. Yeah, you know what

1152
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: else I'm thinking about with this, like generation having boundary problems.

1153
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: There is an episode of only Murders in the Building.

1154
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: I was watching a couple of weeks ago, and Bally

1155
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: Shannon's character like called her gen z assisted and was

1156
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: yelling at them about something, and then then she was like,

1157
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: please don't take a mental health day. No, it's true,

1158
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: It's really true. Like it's just it's so annoying. And

1159
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: I keep thinking, like obviously I'm getting older, right, I'm

1160
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: forty five now, And I always just keep thinking because

1161
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: shit's just getting so crazier, and I feel like, Okay,

1162
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm definitely turning into an old person. I keep thinking

1163
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: about my dad and my father in law and my

1164
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: neighbor across the street and everybody that's like seventy five

1165
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: eighty years old, how they must feel, because I can't

1166
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: even imagine growing up in the fifties as a child

1167
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: and being where we are today of this like oh

1168
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: I need to take off because I need a mental

1169
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: health day and all this stuff, Like it's just it's

1170
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: just like we're creating this environment of week like weak individuals.

1171
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: I feel well, it's reminding me of there's no like

1172
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: resiliency anymore. With a kids' school nurse last year, anytime

1173
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: they like my yo, anytime they'd like hit their arms

1174
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: on the wall or like you know, like super like

1175
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: scrape their knee. She'd call you and be like, I

1176
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: just what you did? Know? I wanted to. I felt

1177
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: like I was being kind of a dick because I

1178
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: just wanted to be like, can you please call me

1179
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: with a real problem, Like this is your job to

1180
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: kind of not bother me with this, like what my

1181
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: kids scraped their knee? Thanks? Like, but she would ask you,

1182
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: like every time if you wanted to pick them up,

1183
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: and you're like, for what? And you have to teach

1184
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: the kids too. You can't just go home every day

1185
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: you like get a paper cut, Like what kind of

1186
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: environment are they trying to raise these children in? I don't,

1187
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I can't. I feel like

1188
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: when you when you raise people like that to be

1189
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: just so sensitive if they ever get a real problem.

1190
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: This is like just my whole thing. We could title

1191
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: this episode get a real problem, like when they get

1192
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: a real problem. And maybe I feel like that because

1193
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: I've been dealing with real problems since I was a teenager,

1194
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: right and just like shit got real for me real

1195
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: fast in my life. So I just am like not

1196
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: tolerant for when people are just just so easily triggered

1197
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: by things and stuff, because think about when when stuff

1198
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: really happens in your life, like people die, or you

1199
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: lose your job, or there's a war or whatever it

1200
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: is that they you can't like, how are you going

1201
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: to live through that? If you can't live through simple things? Right,

1202
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: I cut part of your mother kissing your child or something.

1203
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: I cut part of my fingertip off once at the

1204
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: bar and still had to close the bar. This this

1205
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: is what happens. You like, wrap it up real good.

1206
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: And then if you're not, like you know, in dire

1207
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: need of emergency services, you got to just keep on

1208
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: chugging along. So on that noe. Let's get on our

1209
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: questions of the day every Friday at the ap mother

1210
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: knows that Instagram account, we put a little question box

1211
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: up in our story and you guys can ask whatever

1212
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: you want. First, do you have a viewing after an autopsy? Yes,

1213
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: you can. I would recommend and if you were getting

1214
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: an autopsy on your family member that you tell them

1215
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: that you're planning on having a viewing. But the way

1216
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: that I was taught was to just always do the

1217
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: autopsy incisions so they can be hidden if the family

1218
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: ever decides that they want to do a viewing. Even

1219
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: if they tell you that they're cremating the body, you

1220
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: should still just do the incisions the same as act

1221
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: way all the time. However, I've heard from funeral directors

1222
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: that sometimes, especially at medical examiner's offices or offices with

1223
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: high volume, that they're not as careful with the incisions

1224
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: making sure they're hidden. So I know funeral directors have

1225
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: lots of tricks. Obviously, the y incision on the chest

1226
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: can be hidden with clothes and usually even you would

1227
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: be able to wear a V neck, and if the

1228
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: person that's doing the autopsy isn't is careful, they won't

1229
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: put any holes through the skin of the neck or

1230
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: anything like that. And then it gets a little tricky

1231
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: with the one the incision on the head. I put

1232
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: it pretty far back that when you put the body

1233
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: on a pillow and a casket, you can't see it.

1234
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: But sometimes there's cases where like a guy's bald. I've

1235
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: had cases where a woman like has braids or something,

1236
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: so I try very hard to put the incision between

1237
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: them and not cut their hair off as much as possible,

1238
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: and it usually works out. I've never ever heard of

1239
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: a problem, but I know that the funeral directors have.

1240
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: They have special glues and things like that, so they

1241
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: do it plenty of times and it should be fine. Yeah,

1242
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: So they just essentially will try their best to make

1243
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: it look as good as possible so that it's an

1244
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: option for you. They're miracle workers. These people. I'll never forget.

1245
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: When I was a teenager, I used to I worked

1246
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: at a hair salon and this girl that I worked

1247
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: with got shot by her boyfriend in her head. And

1248
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: when we went to the funeral, I just assumed, I

1249
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't really know much about this field

1250
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: and stuff, but I just assumed, like, Okay, this is

1251
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: going to be a close casket because she got shot

1252
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: in the head. And when we opened the door to

1253
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: the church and walked in and I saw her like

1254
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: all the way down the end of the aisle with it,

1255
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: like I saw her laying in the casket. It scared

1256
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: me to look at her because I was like, wait,

1257
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: how is she going to be in the casket right now?

1258
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: If she got shot in the head, you know what

1259
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, And it was just it was really amazing,

1260
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: like that what they're able to do, you know. And

1261
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: and and now like I know that that doesn't necessarily

1262
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: always cause a ton of trauma too, so, but at

1263
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: the time I didn't know. And but yeah, they they

1264
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: have makeups and all different sorts of tools to be

1265
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: able to make the person look as they did when

1266
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: they were alive. All right, Have you had disease exposure

1267
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: dooring an autopsy? Yes, I've caught myself a couple of times.

1268
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: I remember one it was terrible. I was doing a

1269
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: hepsy positive patient and I was I don't know if

1270
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: you remember this rate I was doing. I was trying

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Speaker 1: to go out with my friends after work, so I

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Speaker 1: was rushing. It always happens when I'm rushing. It was

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Speaker 1: like five o'clock going a Friday, Like it's the ultimate

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 1: time that you just want to be done, done for

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Speaker 1: the week, you know. And I was sewing up the body.

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Speaker 1: I was done. The whole autopsy is sewing up the body.

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Speaker 1: And I took the needle and just like stuck it

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Speaker 1: right into my palm by accident. And you know, normally

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just if it was

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01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: just a regular patient, I might just be like whatever,

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01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 1: I don't care. But I knew the person had hepsy,

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01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 1: so I, you know, I had to go to the

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Speaker 1: emergency room and just file thing. And you know, they

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01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: can't really do anything for you, but you want to

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01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: have documentation of it because God forbid you show up

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01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: with it at some point in your life. Then you

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01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: could say that you got it at your job and

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01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: things like that. So I've I've been cut three times

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Speaker 1: and every time was on a person that had something. Unfortunately,

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01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: but I had subconscious you were trying, so you were

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01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: being too careful that then you cut yourself. Yeah, I'm sure,

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure of it because it just I don't know,

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: like you're just doing dumb shit. I caught my I

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01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: did cut my thumb really bad on well, this was

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01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: we had knives in the gross room, you know, when

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Speaker 1: we're dissecting the organs from surgery, and I had cut.

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Speaker 1: I cut myself on a bone that wasn't soft enough

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01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: to cut yet, but I slipped and caught on it.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately, I don't know who else I caught with

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01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 1: that knife, you know what I mean. And we always

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Speaker 1: had patients with hepstin and stuff because we did deliver

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Speaker 1: transplants and everything like that. We just had a high

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01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: population of infectious disease so I just, oh, I never

1304
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: had a situation where I had to take medications or

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01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: anything for it, but just document it. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think considering the amount of surgical specimens that I dissected,

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Speaker 1: in the amount all autopsies I've done, I've only caught

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01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 1: myself maybe three times or something. I just listened to

1309
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: a really interesting podcast about people that choke when they're

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01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of a performance, and it's like they

1311
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: were talking about the two different parts of your memory,

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01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 1: and basically, with your working memory, you're more likely to

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01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: mess up when you start overthinking something. So I'm thinking,

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01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: in your case, you're like, Okay, this person has an

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01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: infectious disease, so I have to really pay attention to

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Speaker 1: what I'm doing. And because you're so concentrated on what

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01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: you're doing, your memory starts shifting. So something that would

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01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: be completely natural to you, like cutting somebody open, now

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01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: you're concentrating on it too much, which then forces you

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01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 1: to mess up. It's they were saying they did some

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01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: study where they had people walk down the stairs, right,

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01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: and then they just were like, just walk down the stairs,

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01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: and then they did it and they were like, all right,

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01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: now walk down the stairs and watch what your knees doing,

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01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: and then every single person fell. So IO hundred percent

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Speaker 1: believe that because I really think, like, even right now

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01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: that I'm not I'm at a daily practice, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I could sew a body with my eyes shut

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Speaker 1: right and not hurt myself. But yes, I was just

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01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: being like, okay, let me do this. Plus it was

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01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: it was just late. So anyway, I was trying to

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: get out at five o'clock and I was in the

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01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 1: er at eleven stone, you know what I mean, Just like, yeah,

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01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: total totally ridiculous. So instead of getting out at five

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01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: point fifteen, you ended up getting out like six hours later, exactly.

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Speaker 1: All right. The last question, Maria, why are you interested

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Speaker 1: in death but not interested in doing autopsies? And if

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Speaker 1: you weren't doing this, would you do something in a

1339
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 1: similar field to your mom? I have some subconscious, like

1340
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: serious problem with medical environments. I don't know if it's

1341
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: white coat syndrome or what, but like when it's millennial syndrome,

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Speaker 1: it's millennial syndrome. I am very interested in you know,

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01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: I always think if I worked in the medical or

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01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 1: science field, I'd really be interested in working in genealogy

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01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: or something like that. I had actually considered going to

1346
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: college for pharmacy at one point, but then when they

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01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: said you had to give people shots, that just totally

1348
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 1: took me out of the program. Something deep in my

1349
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: brain just is not like being immersed in a medical environment.

1350
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know what it is, and I've done

1351
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: lots of therapy trying to figure out what it is,

1352
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: but I am interested in it. I just use she

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: saw an autopsy when she was like thirteen years old. Probably, yeah,

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01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not. I'm certainly not against it. I

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01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: find it very fascinating. I find when we're working in

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01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: the gross room we're doing stories for this show, I'm

1357
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: totally fine and comfortable talking about them. But if I

1358
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: was in these immersed in these situations, there's just no way.

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01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: I just couldn't even I kind of feel that way

1360
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: about like Gabe's job when he tells me that he's

1361
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: like cutting people out of cars, that their leg is

1362
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: broken and they're screaming at him and stuff like that

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01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 1: gives me so much anxiety. I could never do a

1364
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: job like that. Yeah, not because I'm schemed out, but

1365
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: obviously not like, give me a dead person any day,

1366
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: but like when someone's screaming for their life and stuff,

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01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: I would just be so nervous and not be able

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01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: to perform. I think. I don't know. Well, I find

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01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: it funny because people when I tell them that, they're like,

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01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: don't freak out or don't be queasy. Like I don't

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01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: want to freak out or be queasy like it's trust me.

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01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: It would make my life so much easier if I

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01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: didn't feel that way. You just can't control certain things,

1374
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: like you have phobias for a reason. It's like something

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01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: deep in your mind you just can't control. So I

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01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I am very interested in the sciences of

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01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 1: medicine and everything. I think if I were to pick

1378
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 1: a job, I would try to go into something like

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01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: genealogy or da I was thinking that when we were

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01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 1: talking about the Gypsy Rose case, like you would you

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01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 1: would probably do good working at one of those reference

1382
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: labs or something that do the DNA testing on cases

1383
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I'd love doing. You wouldn't have to

1384
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: have any interaction with PA. She would just get a

1385
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: tube of blood and a smear and put, you know,

1386
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: do the lab work there. Or you could even be

1387
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: a genetic counselor and not have to do the actual

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: lab work and stuff too. Just I can't even deal

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01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: with getting blood in the vials though, like, oh Jesus,

1390
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: so I don't know I'm interested in it, but I

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01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: like my child. I was saying this yesterday to Luluccia.

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01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: So she gets homework assignments and then it says extra option.

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01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: It says optional bonus questions and there's two right, So

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01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: I say, okay, you need to you need to do these,

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01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: and she's just like, why would I do them? They're optional?

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01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, who's child are you? Because me,

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: I would do optional and then some, and Gabe would

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01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: do optional and then some. So we're like, we do optional,

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01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: and then five wore tips for no reason. For no reason,

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01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: they would say stop giving. Don't say to my husband.

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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: We'd make fun of them all this I'm in school

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01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 1: because they'll just say, okay, you need to write two

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01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: paragraphs on this topic and hold hand in like a

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01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: twenty eight page dissertation that's been has a hard bound

1405
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: book cover that he had produced at Staples and stuff,

1406
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, you got a chill because your

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01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: professors might get annoyed by that shit. Actually they're anyways

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01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: for a three sentence bio and you just gave us

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01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: some memoir of your And he does it all the

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01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 1: time with us too, like hey do you got a

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01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: picture of the cat? And then it's like he sends

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01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: seven hundred pictures that it's just extra. But the point

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01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: is that we're both extra, and Lucia just as like

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01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 1: why would I do extra? So same with you, how

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01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: are you my child that you're that you don't even

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01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: want to touch blood? Like well, maybe having too much

1417
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: exposure to it made me turned off to it, So

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Speaker 1: look to yourself for that answer, right, guys, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. If you have a shocking story, please submit

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Speaker 1: it to stories at Mothernosdeath dot com. We would love

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01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: to hear everything going on in your life and make

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Speaker 1: sure if you have a Thanksgiving or a Christmas or

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Speaker 1: a Valentine's Day one that you include those as well,

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01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: because we love a themed episode over here. Yeah we do,

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Speaker 1: And we have a couple coming up stories in the

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Speaker 1: grossroom and just here to talk about different things with

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Speaker 1: like people getting injured with deep fried turkeys and different

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01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: things that could happen, choking deaths and things that would

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01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: be associated with Thanksgiving. And one of my favorites is

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Speaker 1: when we did the dissection on Home Alone at Christmas

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01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: time of all the injuries that Marvin Harry got and

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01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: if they could have really survived them, which no way. Yeah,

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01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: the movie does section seem to be really popular because

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01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: we just did seven and Sleepy Hollow and people were

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01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: really into those two. Yeah. I'm trying to think of like,

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01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 1: if there's any other Christmas there's probably no other Christmas

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01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: theme ones that would be relevant to our well. Sing

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01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: there's this movie, a horror movie called Violent Night, and

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01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of gore and that I'm sure we

1440
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: could break that down. My husband makes me watch it

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01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: for a year on Christmas. Wait, is that the one

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01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: that has Hopper? Is Hopper in it? Yeah? It has

1443
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 1: what is his real name? The guy from Stranger Things,

1444
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: It has uh, the chick from Righteous Gemstones, and the

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01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: mom from Christmas Vacation. Oh okay, so it's good. I

1446
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good movie. It's like a slasher film.

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01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: But like, there's there's lots we could discuss. I think. Okay,

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01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 1: so maybe we'll do that this holidays. We'll say, don't

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01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: give any promises because you never know. I don't know

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01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: if I could survive a movie like that for two hours,

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01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: but we'll say I don't think so. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. We'll see you next week. Sayah,

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01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Mother Nos Death. As a reminder,

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Speaker 1: my training is as a pathologist assistant. I have a

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Speaker 1: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

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Speaker 1: I am not a doctor, and I've not diagnosed or

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01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of a

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01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:04,799
Speaker 1: life since medical doctor. This show, my website, and social

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Speaker 1: media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based

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Speaker 1: on my experience working in pathology, so they can make

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Speaker 1: healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember

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01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: that science is changing every day and the opinions expressed

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Speaker 1: in this episode are based on my knowledge of those

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Speaker 1: subjects at the time of publication. If you are having

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Speaker 1: a medical problem, have a medical question, or having a

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