Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of
Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.
Speaker 1: Listener mail. This is Robert Lamb and this is Joe McCormick,
Speaker 1: and today we are reading back some of the messages
Speaker 1: that you've sent in over the past week or two. So, Robbi,
Speaker 1: if you're ready, I think I'll jump right into one
Speaker 1: of these messages about our episodes on tears. Right. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this one comes from a listener who did share
Speaker 1: her name, but I think I'm gonna keep this one
Speaker 1: anonymous just in case because it gets into some potentially
Speaker 1: dicey territory. But but this was a good one. So
Speaker 1: this listener says, Hey, I wanted to share a funny
Speaker 1: story about crocodile tears. My husband and I had only
Speaker 1: been dating for a few weeks when he accompanied me
Speaker 1: to a pawn shop. I needed money and decided to
Speaker 1: sell my engagement ring from my ex fiance. While haggling
Speaker 1: with the pawn shop employee, who was, of course trying
Speaker 1: to give me as little as possible, I started crying
Speaker 1: and giving a sob story about how sad I was
Speaker 1: to part with it, and so on. My husband's jaw
Speaker 1: hit the floor, and he was quietly fuming. He hated
Speaker 1: my ex and had thought I did too. He certainly
Speaker 1: didn't think I cared a spit about this sad little ring.
Speaker 1: I managed to get a few more dollars from the
Speaker 1: pawn shop guy, and when we walked outside, my husband
Speaker 1: turned to me, probably ready to break things off, and
Speaker 1: with my cheeks still wet with tears, I just started laughing.
Speaker 1: He stared at me, dumbfounded. You're not upset, he asked me, God, No,
Speaker 1: why would I be. I just needed as much as
Speaker 1: I could possibly get. I told him, have you ever
Speaker 1: done that to me? He asked, not yet? I told him,
Speaker 1: and we both had a good laugh. He still loves
Speaker 1: to tell that story because he totally fell for it
Speaker 1: as we stood in the pawn shop. Well, that that's
Speaker 1: that sounds like a scene from a movie. I feel
Speaker 1: like I would see that on a like a drama
Speaker 1: TV show. Yeah, totally, But I have more questions. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm one to know, like did you plan
Speaker 1: to do this or did it just kind of happen spontaneously?
Speaker 1: Like what what's the approach on that? I I think
Speaker 1: I can honestly say I have never uh as an
Speaker 1: adult at least used tears in an intentionally persuasive manner. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I would be able to
Speaker 1: do so if I tried. Yeah, I mean, of course,
Speaker 1: I mean we all do things with our delivery and
Speaker 1: our our body language at times to try and influence
Speaker 1: these sorts of encounters. I mean, we've all I think
Speaker 1: read about, you know, the supposed benefits, and occasionally I
Speaker 1: think I've seen some criticism of this idea too, of
Speaker 1: of taking on the like the humble brontosaurus pose. Uh
Speaker 1: when say, dealing with uh with a with a person
Speaker 1: of sort of bureaucratic authority, or even if you've been like,
Speaker 1: you know, pulled over that sort of thing. What is
Speaker 1: the humble brontos source pose. It's sort of a I
Speaker 1: forget the details of, but it's like, imagine you are
Speaker 1: a Saara pod uh and one that is humble and
Speaker 1: not threatening. It's sort of like taking on this sort
Speaker 1: of uh, this this humble body language approach to not
Speaker 1: so much too direct conflict, I think, but sort of
Speaker 1: these these milder forms of interaction where you could potentially
Speaker 1: be shut down by somebody and you you maybe want
Speaker 1: like a little bit more help, uh than than they
Speaker 1: definitely have to give you. But like I said, if
Speaker 1: if memory serves, I think there's been some back and
Speaker 1: forth on that, and it's certainly it certainly is not
Speaker 1: something that's gonna be applicable to to every scenario. Okay,
Speaker 1: I just looked it up. I think the phrase you've
Speaker 1: used for this before is the kindly browntosaurus. Okay, kind
Speaker 1: of not humble. Yeah yeah, well maybe humble, maybe not,
Speaker 1: but it's sort of, uh, sort of the the head
Speaker 1: is bent down a little bit and then the front
Speaker 1: arms are sort of clasped, the hands are clasped together
Speaker 1: in front of you. Uh, it looks very it looks
Speaker 1: very humble and supplicant. Yeah. Yeah, So I mean, not
Speaker 1: so much to really back up the pros and cons
Speaker 1: of that specifically, but just in general, of course, we
Speaker 1: all do things that are maybe not quite at the
Speaker 1: level of a summoning, uh you know, the orchestrated tears
Speaker 1: of some form or another, but doing things to lean
Speaker 1: into creating a certain emotional ambiance that we want someone
Speaker 1: else to pick up on. Like what happens Joe if
Speaker 1: you have to go into a hardware store in a
Speaker 1: let's say, a small southern town. Do you find things
Speaker 1: happen to your voice? Oh that's a good question. Uh,
Speaker 1: that may indeed be true. I don't know. I've never
Speaker 1: consciously monitored myself for that, but I suspect I may
Speaker 1: shift back into my East Tennessee roots a little bit
Speaker 1: more depending on the context. Yeah. I think I have
Speaker 1: at times caught myself becoming like a little folks here
Speaker 1: in interactions like that. So so basically, what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say is, though even though quote unquote fake tears
Speaker 1: may seem like an extreme manipulation I mean to to some,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's really that extreme when you take
Speaker 1: into account all the various other ways that we augment
Speaker 1: our emotional ambiance for others. Yeah, yeah, totally. Okay, So
Speaker 1: if we do this next message from Matthew, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to preface this by saying this touches on some
Speaker 1: of the same Dune content mentioned by a previous listener,
Speaker 1: but kind of expands on the idea. So, rob do
Speaker 1: you want to do this one? Sure? Uh, they write, Hey,
Speaker 1: Robert and Joe. One interesting example of cultural meaning of
Speaker 1: tears can be found in the Dune series I guess
Speaker 1: at some point during his initial stay at the taveris
Speaker 1: speech or seeched. I never know how to say this.
Speaker 1: There's so many words and phrases and dune that they
Speaker 1: kind of just ricochet through through my brain and I'm
Speaker 1: not necessarily using them in everyday conversation anyway. Paul weeps
Speaker 1: for the man whom he has recently killed than a duel.
Speaker 1: The Fremen are deeply touched by his tears. In the
Speaker 1: harsh desert environment of Aracus, wasting vital bodily fluid for
Speaker 1: someone or somebody can be seen as an honest signal
Speaker 1: of commitment and emotional investment. I was surprised that you
Speaker 1: hadn't mentioned it, since I know both of you are
Speaker 1: big fans of Doone. Yeah, so this expands. Another listener
Speaker 1: wrote in about the scene and Done, where where Paul
Speaker 1: cries after he has has killed one of the firm
Speaker 1: in a in a duel um. But Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: the idea that the stakes of the water content of
Speaker 1: someone's body being so high in the environment of Done
Speaker 1: makes the tear signal especially important, and you could view
Speaker 1: it as consequently honest, like an honest signal to a
Speaker 1: much greater extent because water is so precious in this environment. Uh.
Speaker 1: And and this does kind of relate to the idea
Speaker 1: I I pondered in one of the Tier episodes. Again,
Speaker 1: this is not something that I know of any direct
Speaker 1: evidence for. Is just something I was kind of wondering
Speaker 1: out loud about, which was, what if adult tears could
Speaker 1: in part be an adaptation, uh to the complexity of
Speaker 1: the human capacity for deceit. So because humans can lie
Speaker 1: not only about external matters of fact, but about internal
Speaker 1: subjective states. So for example, you can claim to care
Speaker 1: about someone when in fact you don't. Tears being difficult
Speaker 1: to fake could help serve as an honest signal of
Speaker 1: an internal emotional states that could help bonding and trust
Speaker 1: between humans. And I remember when I was researching tears.
Speaker 1: One one way this occurred to me, I think, was
Speaker 1: I was reading several stories of someone who said they
Speaker 1: had been planning to break up with a romantic partner
Speaker 1: and you know, thinking that that partner didn't really care
Speaker 1: about them until that partner began to cry during the
Speaker 1: breakup conversation they were having, and then they changed their mind.
Speaker 1: They changed their mind and decided they wanted to stay
Speaker 1: with that person. Uh and you know, you could all
Speaker 1: argue that there could be all kinds of reasons for that,
Speaker 1: But one could be that something about the crying makes
Speaker 1: it look like their emotional commitment to you is more real,
Speaker 1: you can trust it more m hmm. Interesting, they continue. Also,
Speaker 1: one could argue in favor of the view of the
Speaker 1: function of emotional tears as making us seem more childlike
Speaker 1: on the basis that we are already a highly neotenic
Speaker 1: species compared to our closest relatives like chimpanzees or even
Speaker 1: more archaic subspecies of the genus Homo. We retain many
Speaker 1: juvenile characteristics into adulthood. Shedding emotional tears could be just
Speaker 1: one more such factor, maybe even making a case for
Speaker 1: humans being uniquely high on on the otany in the
Speaker 1: entire animal kingdom. And then they close up by saying also,
Speaker 1: the expression crocodile tears is also very common in Polish,
Speaker 1: but I had no idea what it meant until I
Speaker 1: listened to your episode. Best regards, Matthew. All right, well,
Speaker 1: thank you, matt f you. Um let's see, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: move on to a message about nail biting from a
Speaker 1: listener another Matthew. This one's named Matt uh. And this
Speaker 1: is funny because this is Matt responding to a third listener,
Speaker 1: also named Matt. So the Matt we have, Mats have
Speaker 1: plenty of cornucopia of Matt's here in the in the
Speaker 1: Stuff to Blow your Mind verse. But Matt says Robert
Speaker 1: and Joe, Hello, my name is Matt, and I'm writing
Speaker 1: in response to another person named Matt. He had written
Speaker 1: to tell you how he randomly quit biting his nails.
Speaker 1: I also was a nail biter for the first twenty
Speaker 1: five years of my life, but I quit. I can
Speaker 1: point to naval boot camp as the catalyst of my quitting.
Speaker 1: In boot camp, the drill instructors are always yelling at
Speaker 1: people for touching their faces. This makes a lot of
Speaker 1: sense because of the large numbers of people living in
Speaker 1: close proximity to one another. They don't want to spreading disease.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we were issued nail clippers, and I was
Speaker 1: motivated to use them to keep my nails too short
Speaker 1: for me to bite them. I love you guys in
Speaker 1: the show. You've got me into watching old horror movies
Speaker 1: and enjoying them much more than I ever thought I would.
Speaker 1: Science is awesome, and so are you. It was very,
Speaker 1: very very sweet, Matt. Thank you. All right, let's jump
Speaker 1: ahead of some weird house cinema feedback here. This one
Speaker 1: comes to us from Susan. Hey, guys, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to write in about Time after Time. I almost didn't
Speaker 1: listen to this episode because I remember seeing the movie
Speaker 1: at the cinema with my parents when I was about
Speaker 1: eight years old. I had nightmares for months. The scene
Speaker 1: that got me was when Wells goes into an apartment
Speaker 1: and it's a complete blood bath. Now, more than forty
Speaker 1: years later, I can picture that severed arm and it
Speaker 1: still gives me chills. Of course, after that introduction to horror,
Speaker 1: I spent the nineteen eighties watching all the now classic
Speaker 1: flasher films. Thanks for a fun travel through time to
Speaker 1: the early days of scary movies. Funny, I don't remember
Speaker 1: the love part of that movie, just the blood. No love,
Speaker 1: only blood. Yeah. I mean, it is kind of a
Speaker 1: shocking scene when you get that, because there hasn't really
Speaker 1: been much blood in the film at that point, I
Speaker 1: mean a little here and there, but but then suddenly, yes,
Speaker 1: severed arm. Uh. I could see where that would definitely
Speaker 1: be a lot of you were eight years old. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I think we mentioned this in the Time Aftertime episode,
Speaker 1: But it's kind of amazing what could get a PG
Speaker 1: in nineteen nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a it's in late seventies PG. So it's certainly
Speaker 1: anybody looking to pick that up to think about it.
Speaker 1: But I guess it follows a trend that you know,
Speaker 1: has been widely observed for a long time that for
Speaker 1: some reason, the people who issue ratings classifications for movies
Speaker 1: tend to be far more motivated to kick up ratings
Speaker 1: in response to, say, harsh language or sexuality than they
Speaker 1: do in response to violence. So you can get away
Speaker 1: with a big, bloody dismemberment as long as people aren't
Speaker 1: saying the bad words. Yeah. I'm always I'm always fascinated
Speaker 1: when people share their stories about what was like the
Speaker 1: first or one of the first scary movies to really
Speaker 1: kind of you know, get to them when they were kids,
Speaker 1: Because for me, it was it was almost certainly Toby
Speaker 1: Hooper's poulter Geist. I remember seeing part of that when
Speaker 1: I was a kid, and uh bathroom mirror scene who
Speaker 1: uh I don't know if it was that's and I
Speaker 1: don't even know how I was watching it per se um,
Speaker 1: but there was I don't know, just stuff. Some of
Speaker 1: it was probably not even like the really grizzly stuff,
Speaker 1: but just like scenes of children being afraid in dark rooms.
Speaker 1: You know, like some of that can really get to
Speaker 1: you at a at a young age. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's surprising, how you know, how scary certain concepts and
Speaker 1: ideas can be to young children. I was trying to
Speaker 1: tell my son about the duck that said that there
Speaker 1: were recordings of the duck speaking and saying you bloody fool,
Speaker 1: and he was like, that's too much. He I got
Speaker 1: upset that I was telling him this before bed, and
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I didn't think about the speaking
Speaker 1: ducks saying you bloody fool would be nightmare material. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe so, I mean, who am I
Speaker 1: to argue with this reaction here? What about Billy Bass?
Speaker 1: He'd probably be amused by Billy bass um, but I
Speaker 1: have not introduced him to that technology either. Billy Bass
Speaker 1: will haunt your dreams. It's funny what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: It makes me remember one movie that I got very
Speaker 1: freaked out by as a kid. I remember was the
Speaker 1: movie Cat's I in which there it's a sort of
Speaker 1: horror anthology film or I don't know if it's all horror.
Speaker 1: At least one of the segments is horror and features
Speaker 1: this little weird, creepy gremlin running around in a bedroom
Speaker 1: that does battle with a cat. Uh. And I remember
Speaker 1: that gremlin really creeped me out. Yeah they had it
Speaker 1: was a great design on that critter. Okay, This next
Speaker 1: weird house cinema response comes from Simon. This is a
Speaker 1: very long email, so I'm doing some regiments in editing.
Speaker 1: So Simon says, hey, fellas, welcome from the royal town
Speaker 1: of Sutton Coalfield, West Midland's UK birthplace of ken Gt,
Speaker 1: forty miles uh from I guess this is somebody from
Speaker 1: Ford versus Ferrati, which which I haven't seen. Um. But
Speaker 1: Simon says it's also mentioned in Shakespeare when fall Staff says,
Speaker 1: Bardolf get thee before to Coventry, fill me a bottle
Speaker 1: of sack. Our soldiers shall march through wheel to Sutton
Speaker 1: coal Field tonight. And then finally Simon says it is
Speaker 1: the location of a shower of Frogs in nineteen fifty four.
Speaker 1: I think to look that one up, but Simon says,
Speaker 1: apologies in advance for the long email. I guess an
Speaker 1: epic podcast deserves epic feedback. I love stuff to blow
Speaker 1: your mind and the content that you provide. I store
Speaker 1: up episodes to play while I undertake my artwork at home.
Speaker 1: Weird how cinema is especially my favorite as a long
Speaker 1: term cinephile myself. Beloved movies that I have collected include
Speaker 1: ref Madness from nineteen thirty six, The Outlaw from nineteen
Speaker 1: forty three, the movie for which Howard Hughes designed the
Speaker 1: cantilever bra and Carry On Up the Kaiber from sixty eight,
Speaker 1: the ninety nine greatest British movie of all time and
Speaker 1: one of the funniest. I think. Actually the only one
Speaker 1: of those I've seen is read for Madness, But Simon says,
Speaker 1: I'm mainly writing a response to your reference to the
Speaker 1: TV movie The Day After in your Weird House Cinema
Speaker 1: episode on Time after Time. Remember that was the another
Speaker 1: film that was made by Nicholas Meyer, the writer and
Speaker 1: director of Time after Time, which was a television film
Speaker 1: about what would happen in the aftermath of a nuclear
Speaker 1: war between the United States and the Soviet Union. Simon
Speaker 1: goes on, you reference the cultural impact of the Day After,
Speaker 1: but I guess that you're already aware of the UK
Speaker 1: film that it is constantly compared to Threads from nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty four, the UK BBC DOCU drama about the horrific
Speaker 1: of effects of and after a nuclear war. Scariest movie
Speaker 1: ever made by a country mile directed by the man
Speaker 1: who would later direct The Bodyguard. Um massively well researched,
Speaker 1: with input by Carl Sagan. Interesting in its comparison to
Speaker 1: the U S movie The Day After, which, although had
Speaker 1: a higher budget, has nowhere near the nightmare depicted by Threads.
Speaker 1: Plus the latter does tend to eschew drama for information.
Speaker 1: Not an easy watch, perhaps undermined a little by use
Speaker 1: of stock footage and televisual feel, but utterly essential viewing.
Speaker 1: I own both movies, but only Threads keeps me awake
Speaker 1: at night, uh per and then uh Simon includes a
Speaker 1: quote from The New York Times. The film is not
Speaker 1: a balanced discussion about the pros and cons of nuclear armaments.
Speaker 1: It is a candidly biased warning, and it is as calculated,
Speaker 1: unsettlingly powerful. I like the New York Times warning you
Speaker 1: that it that it does not reveal the prose of
Speaker 1: nuclear war um. The director of this, Mike I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Mick Jackson, not a guy I'm that familiar with. But
Speaker 1: he also directed Volcano in and uh The Temple Grand
Speaker 1: and Bio that came out in two thousand ten starring
Speaker 1: Claire Danes. Oh. Okay, well, anyway, Simon goes on to say, obviously,
Speaker 1: the input of Carl Sagan and the almost documentary feel
Speaker 1: of the film make this irrelevant subject for consideration by
Speaker 1: you chaps. Science the Cold War psychology of fear, paranoia,
Speaker 1: and mutually sure destruction. The final scene of the birth
Speaker 1: of a child born of rape and fallout is beyond
Speaker 1: terrifying and is reminiscent of the effects of depleted uranium
Speaker 1: ordinance on unborn children in recent wars. On a personal note,
Speaker 1: my grandfather was part of the Allied occupation of Japan
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty five and experienced firsthand what was left
Speaker 1: of Hiroshima. It happened to be the forty anniversary five
Speaker 1: that he began to describe it to me The same year.
Speaker 1: I leave that Threads was shown on TV. It took
Speaker 1: me from age fourteen to forty five to summon the
Speaker 1: courage to watch it, and that thirty one years of
Speaker 1: preparation was essential, as I was by now a father's stuff.
Speaker 1: Yes it is. But from here the message gets lighter.
Speaker 1: Simon goes onto list and suggest a bunch of movies
Speaker 1: that he thinks we would be interested in. For weird House,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go through the whole list here,
Speaker 1: but I'll read one of them that's on the lighter
Speaker 1: side of the nuclear cinema uh catalog, he says. On
Speaker 1: a connected theme, can I suggest the fantastic Protect and
Speaker 1: Survive UK information films? They are terrifying and hilarious in
Speaker 1: their naivety. Don't forget to brush the fallout from your jacket.
Speaker 1: It's pure public service nostalgia for Cold War addicts, and
Speaker 1: he includes some some links for us to view. I've
Speaker 1: watched at least one of these clips and and the
Speaker 1: one of the parts that stuck out to me is
Speaker 1: this very dry British radio voice saying, uh, if someone
Speaker 1: has died, move their body to another room. Cover it
Speaker 1: in poly eurythene I, I seem to recall that there
Speaker 1: was a parody of this on The Young Ones back
Speaker 1: in the day. Oh yeah, I think in fact, even um,
Speaker 1: I think Simon may mention that later in his email. Okay, sorry, Simon,
Speaker 1: that is still in your thunder here. But I think
Speaker 1: I think that's all we're doing from Okay, alright, so
Speaker 1: well I'm not stealing your thunder then well I'm completely
Speaker 1: stealing it, I guess, because then we're not even reading
Speaker 1: where you mentioned that. But um, telepathically you're robbing him
Speaker 1: at any rate. Yes, it is my understanding, uh, and
Speaker 1: my faint memory that it is lampooned on The Young Ones.
Speaker 1: All right, the fantasy Bomba Deal casting continues. We heard
Speaker 1: from Casey. Casey right right, wrote in and says hello,
Speaker 1: I've been listening to you guys since around the time
Speaker 1: of the Bicameral Mind episodes that have been a regular
Speaker 1: listener ever since. I often think about writing in, but
Speaker 1: usually dissuade myself from it. However, in light of the
Speaker 1: ongoing Bomba Deal debate, I decided I had better speak up.
Speaker 1: In general, I think adaptations are a bad idea. The
Speaker 1: particular impact of a story is often bound up with
Speaker 1: the specific medium it's told in and something always gets
Speaker 1: lost in translation, no matter how well executed. Because bomba
Speaker 1: Deal is one of my favorite parts of the books,
Speaker 1: I'm glad he hasn't been realized on the screen. All
Speaker 1: the same, if I had to pick a human bomba Deal,
Speaker 1: one could do worse than the wayfaring stranger himself. Burl Ives.
Speaker 1: He's jovial, plump and sings in a friendly, folksy style. Anyway,
Speaker 1: thanks for continuing to deliver interesting, engaging, and eclectic content,
Speaker 1: Casey burl Ives, Okay, interesting option, Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: when he's he's in that uh the Rudolph Um animated
Speaker 1: Um show, as I recall, he's the narrator in that
Speaker 1: and plays the what the Snowman, So he's already we
Speaker 1: already know that he can play a musical elemental force.
Speaker 1: This sort of stands outside of the story, so it
Speaker 1: makes sense. I would say, you want to make sure
Speaker 1: that he's not in cat on a hot tin roof mode,
Speaker 1: because although bomba Deal maybe a sort of god or elemental,
Speaker 1: he is no big Daddy. We'll tell me this, Joe,
Speaker 1: I know you're a big Jim Steinman fan. If Jim
Speaker 1: Steinman had adapted The Fellowship of the Ring. Uh do
Speaker 1: you think you could have seen meat Loaf as bomba
Speaker 1: Deal without a word? Oh that's the sweet spot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see that kind of a rock Obomba Deal.
Speaker 1: Hey don Mary do? Oh? Yeah? R I p Jim Steinman.
Speaker 1: He passed away just earlier this year. The world is
Speaker 1: a less melodramatic place without him. All right, how about
Speaker 1: I read this one from Hannah also about Bomba Dill's subject,
Speaker 1: and keep it coming right Bomba dil opinions. I like
Speaker 1: how this is the new subgenre of listener mail, Hi,
Speaker 1: Robert and Joe. If I could pluck any actor from
Speaker 1: any point in their career to play Bomba Deal, I'd
Speaker 1: pick top All exactly as he was in Fiddle around
Speaker 1: the Roof ninety one. I've always pictured Tom Bomba Dill
Speaker 1: with a similar playfulness and warmth to his character. Uh.
Speaker 1: That's a great idea, Hannah, But then she goes on
Speaker 1: along that train of thought. But considering the annoying limitations
Speaker 1: of the passage of time or whatever, I went looking
Speaker 1: for some actors who are still currently working and have
Speaker 1: tavy on their resumes and came up with two interesting
Speaker 1: but very different possibilities. Alfred Molina and Harvey Firestein thoughts
Speaker 1: all the best, Hannah. Uh yeah, both great, both great choices,
Speaker 1: great actors in their own regard. You know, Harvey Fierstein,
Speaker 1: uh did a voice of one of the Skexis on
Speaker 1: the The Dark Crystal Age of Resistance and I loved it.
Speaker 1: That's right, Yes, he was great in that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've yeah, I like both of those actors. Uh so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see them now. I'm not sure if if
Speaker 1: Harvey Fierstein is maybe getting a bit of I don't know,
Speaker 1: he's I mean, how old we're Christopher Lee and Ian
Speaker 1: McKellan when they made uh, you know, the Fellowship of
Speaker 1: the Ring. So I don't know. He seems fine. Let
Speaker 1: him do it. We're just talking here anyway. Let him
Speaker 1: do it. I'm not going to stand in the way
Speaker 1: of this fantasy casting. Let them bomba dil Alright, Well,
Speaker 1: it looks like we're already out of time here. I
Speaker 1: really don't know where the time went on this episode
Speaker 1: of feel like we we just started it, but here
Speaker 1: we are. We'll have to get to the other bits
Speaker 1: of listener mail next time around. In the meantime, if
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