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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for Dake Edi State?

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Speaker 1: Is that whoo whoo? And them and tie? College football

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Speaker 1: Week eight is upon us and Dan Rubenstein. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like your voice is back. Yeah, for better or worse.

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Speaker 2: I'm about I'm ninety three percent there, ty, So this

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Speaker 2: is not a Cam Rising will he won't he situation? Well,

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Speaker 2: and I guess it technically is Cam Rising unfortunately out

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Speaker 2: for the season. There's something definitive there. My voice is

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Speaker 2: definitively back. So, my god, am I.

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Speaker 1: Excited for this week of college football. It's got a

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Speaker 1: way that you could on Saturday night. You don't even know, Ty, Well,

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Speaker 1: I do know because you have been talking up this

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Speaker 1: nickname that you said you came up with today on

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Speaker 1: a walk. Yes, and it happens from time to time

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Speaker 1: Do you not want to know about it? This was

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Speaker 1: don't think I told you about Centaur Saturday. No in advance.

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Speaker 2: Now you did know about did I call it Cinemax Saturday?

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Speaker 2: I did know about Cinemax. You knew about that. I

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Speaker 2: sent you some audio and graphics ahead of that. You

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Speaker 2: don't know about this one. You just tell me when

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Speaker 2: I know. We have housekeeping to get to. But I

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Speaker 2: feel I feel pretty good about the holistic nature of

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Speaker 1: Yes, we will get to this momentarily for those newcomers,

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Speaker 1: we will explain what we've got a nickname to beget with.

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Speaker 1: But why well, welcome. I am Tyee's Dan. Yes, this

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Speaker 1: is Week eight of college football. It's hard to believe

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Speaker 1: we have rounded the bend. We are now officially in

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Speaker 1: the second half of the regular season. Caught myself saying

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Speaker 1: that regular season there is still a long way to go.

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Speaker 1: this week at eight five to five verbal three. That's

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Speaker 1: live recap show, which we do every Saturday night at

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Speaker 1: midnight Eastern. And oh, by the way, we have a

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Speaker 1: Monster Monster Pick Them game this weekend, fifteen games for

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Speaker 2: Is this coming out of my paycheck? It is coming

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Speaker 2: out of our shared bank. Oh no, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you just have to go to verballers dot or

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Speaker 1: Oh, Mike is where you can go for more information

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Speaker 2: Yeah, please reconsider this is too much, that's too sexy

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Speaker 1: If you're afraid of competing, don't even bother. It's not

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Speaker 1: for you. Week eight is a really good slate of games.

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Speaker 2: are you familiar with the term earthquake weather? I am okay,

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Speaker 2: It's like things are a little bit too calm, right that, Like, oh,

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Speaker 1: It has to be Snake in the Toilet Saturday? Does

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Speaker 2: Tie?

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Speaker 2: about eight forty four am Central.

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Speaker 1: Did you wake up any of the neighbors making that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty happy with it being a snake

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little rift, I like it, just shredding out

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Speaker 1: I had a harder time picking these games than you did. Okay,

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Speaker 1: against the spoiler makers Dan.

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Speaker 2: Short week letdown spot for the Ducks after that big

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Speaker 2: Nobody got injured, he didn't trip like an Ohio State

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Speaker 2: I have enjoyed the back and forth of people saying, like,

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Speaker 2: That's a really smart move. Not the first time it's happened,

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Speaker 1: Explain for people what happened. For people who aren't aware.

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Speaker 2: Oregon was hit with twelve men on the field a

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, like you have guys, you know, intentionally interfering with

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I've seen Notre Dame come out with

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Speaker 2: Maybe Marcus Freeman just has galaxy rain and like someday

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Speaker 1: Well right in. As always Soli verbal at gmail dot com,

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Speaker 1: we welcome your feedback on this. You can also common

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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you here in the ballerhood. Dan,

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Speaker 1: should we get some games? That's Dan. It is weekend.

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Speaker 1: It is a snake in the toilet Saturday. That's that's ten.

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Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein's yelling in the toilet, by the way, with

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Speaker 1: Usually we do this bit at the top with the

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Speaker 1: half points as I look through this game, Dan, let's

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Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, also true.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen this schedule h Colorado State at Michigan, Utsa, Louisiana, Monroe,

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Speaker 2: And that is even like taking into account like recruiting

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Speaker 2: you know, just in terms of performance scoring efficiency, Oklahoma's.

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Speaker 1: Way down there. Whoever it is take your pick from

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Speaker 1: And so when I look at our spreadsheet and I

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Speaker 2: No, I just think this is not a Texas team

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Speaker 2: There's still like a mysterious element to like what Indiana

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get to Indiana Nebraska and that's going to

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Speaker 1: I look at standard downs? What are standard downs? Standard

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Speaker 2: I just tell me what you see ty and lost

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Speaker 2: in the spreadsheets, tell me what you see.

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Speaker 1: An offense shut up. These are the downs where an

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Speaker 1: They're still going to score on Texas. I am envisioning

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Speaker 2: One when you let me ask you this, when you

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Speaker 2: look at Georgia and as an isolated product this year,

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Speaker 2: they're a good team, definitely a good team. Have one

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Speaker 1: Who knows. I think George is really good. I don't

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Speaker 2: They're thin at running back in the same way that

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Dan Jackson's good.

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Speaker 2: and I think there's enough firepower at Texas. I think

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Speaker 1: with Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I just think Texas is the better team playing at

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Speaker 2: home in a stadium that I'm not crazy about in

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Speaker 2: terms of giving a home field advantage. But if we're

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Speaker 2: going to accept Georgia as a team that looked blown

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Speaker 2: out of the water on the road against Alabama early,

441
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Speaker 2: that was unable to do anything offensively on the road

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Speaker 2: at Kentucky, and now you're going on the road to

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Speaker 2: take on Texas, No, I think we should give Georgia

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Speaker 2: credit for what they are, not give Georgia the credit

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Speaker 2: for what they were. So I'm going Texas thirty three

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Okay, I think that's reasonable.

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious in your dy analytics, so you have

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Speaker 1: to do this right now in place. I mean to

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Speaker 1: put you on the spot. I would be curious, though,

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Speaker 1: of these six teams that Texas has played, yeah, on

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Speaker 1: a points per drive level, which of them is the

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Speaker 1: best in the country. I genuinely don't know, right, I'm

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Speaker 1: just going off sp plus numbers and that's what it

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Speaker 1: spits out Oklahoma. Right. But the point, the bigger point,

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Speaker 1: none of them are good, right, none of them are good.

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Speaker 1: So that's you know, sort of beside the point. But

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious to know what we're what kind of

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Speaker 1: a jump that Texas defense is going to look at

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Speaker 1: this week when they're scaring off against Georgia. It'll be interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think it may be their common opponent in Mississippi

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Speaker 2: Missippy State. Wow, Mississippi State is at seventy ninth right

462
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Speaker 2: now in terms of points per still not great, Bob,

463
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Speaker 2: still not great. Michigan is at eightieth, so barely edged

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Speaker 2: out by Mississippi State in terms of points per drive.

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Speaker 2: That's minus garbage time against FBS teams. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: go to our next game. Dan, you've been talking up

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Speaker 2: this Indiana Nebraska game. It's a big new thing right

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Speaker 2: on Fox.

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Speaker 1: It is big noon. Yeah, back to Bloomington. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is a new on Fox. It is Nebraska on the

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Speaker 1: road at Indiana. Indiana six and a half point favorite.

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Speaker 1: These teams are a combined eleven and one this season,

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Speaker 1: Just as we all predicted, Nebraska has been a great story,

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Speaker 1: but India has been the better story. They're six and

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Speaker 1: oh they're flying high. You've got great numbers on both

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Speaker 1: sides of the ball. We got the coach filled with

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Speaker 1: piss and vinegar, coach sig Kurt Signetti. He has beaten

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Speaker 1: a cacaphony of stellar teams so far in FIU, Western Illinois, UCLA, Charlotte, Maryland,

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Speaker 1: and Northwestern. Yes, Indiana has pounded those teams. Yep, they

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Speaker 1: have left no doubt. But we are now getting to

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Speaker 1: the point in the second half of the schedule where

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Speaker 1: things are going to heat up. That's where Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they've scored only thirty points since the

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Speaker 2: FIU game. It's been forty plus every week. They've been incredible.

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Speaker 2: They've been very, very solid.

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Speaker 1: So I can sit here and I can quasi make

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Speaker 1: the joke about schedule. I can quasi make the joke

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Speaker 1: about the offenses that Texas has played. But at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, as we like to say, here winnings.

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Speaker 1: This skill winnings the skill I got to win the

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Speaker 1: games that are in front of you, and you got

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Speaker 1: to perform in some consistent way to and still confidence,

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Speaker 1: which Indiana absolutely has. Last week in our for Baller

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Speaker 1: Top twelve poll, Indiana crack the top twelve. I have

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Speaker 1: seen some folks out there posting their projected playoff brackets

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Speaker 1: in the moment, not necessarily a projection, but Indiana is

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Speaker 1: included in some of those. So to say at a

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Speaker 1: minimum that Indiana has been a bit of a surprise

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Speaker 1: team this season, that is a huge understatement. But we

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Speaker 1: will find out a lot more about this team now,

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Speaker 1: starting this week and moving forward the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: Who you got in this one?

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Speaker 2: I have Indiana. I have Indiana coming off of a bye. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they're both coming off of a bye, but it's Indiana

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Speaker 2: at home coming off of a bye, which I enjoy.

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Speaker 2: The way that Indiana has performed. None of those games,

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Speaker 2: not one of them has been a like. Oh, Indiana

508
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Speaker 2: was pretty average on offense, but they had a couple

509
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Speaker 2: pick sixes and a couple of short fields here and

510
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Speaker 2: it was forty two to fourteen. But really that wasn't

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Speaker 2: the true nature of that. No, No, they had a

512
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Speaker 2: couple of those picks against Maryland then ran away with it.

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Speaker 2: Indiana to me is buttoned up and Nebraska for all

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Speaker 2: of their winning, of which they have done an impressive amount,

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Speaker 2: all things considered, with a true freshman at quarterback, an

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Speaker 2: impressive one. But all things considered, Nebraska's had some stretches

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Speaker 2: of looking like absolute garbage. They've had stinko stretches, is

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Speaker 2: what I wrote down on the legal pad. If you're

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Speaker 2: watching on Spike TV, it's right here. You look at

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Speaker 2: the second half against Rutgers most recently. You look at

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Speaker 2: the first half against Purdue. You look at the second

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Speaker 2: half against Colorado. You look at the second half against Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, in a losing effort, that was one touchdown

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Speaker 2: in all of those habs.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the second half against Illinois.

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Speaker 2: And so they just go through these stretches where they

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Speaker 2: can't either figure out who they're playing on defense or

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Speaker 2: they can't figure out how to adjust and look inward

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Speaker 2: and figure out what should be working more often if

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Speaker 2: they're able to execute, and they're always gonna be growing

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Speaker 2: pains with the freshman quarterback. Just I'm going to use

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Speaker 2: the same logic here that like, I don't think Indiana's unbeatable,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Texas is unbeatable, but you got to

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Speaker 2: be buttoned up to a certain extent, and Nebraska is

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Speaker 2: still just in its winning adolescence to me that they're

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Speaker 2: just not done growing.

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Speaker 1: They have not grown to that point yet.

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Speaker 2: And look, Indiana is not going to finish undefeated likely

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Speaker 2: never say never.

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Speaker 1: Eight percent likely, eight percent chance.

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Speaker 2: Eight percent chance. So you're saying there's a chance. I

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Speaker 2: think the biggest concern with me with Indiana right now

543
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Speaker 2: is their ability to quickly and thoroughly figure out Nebraska's defense.

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Speaker 2: It's a tricky three three five. Tony White has them

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Speaker 2: playing well opponent wise. You know, I haven't loved all

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Speaker 2: of the offenses, but it's still Illinois and Colorado on

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Speaker 2: that schedule. So I think if Indiana can avoid some

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Speaker 2: costly eerrason offense, I think they're balanced enough, they make

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Speaker 2: enough plays. What did I write down here? Final score

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Speaker 2: twenty seven to seventeen Hoosiers on a beautiful day. By

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Speaker 2: the way, I looked at weather across the country, almost

552
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Speaker 2: across the board, it's seventies to eighties and Sonny great great.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, I just I think Indiana is

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Speaker 2: better even with the schedule that they've played. Okay, their

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Speaker 2: time is going to come where they're just not good

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Speaker 2: as good as whoever they're playing, or it's just a

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Speaker 2: bad situation coming off of buy at home seventy three

558
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Speaker 2: degrees in Sonny and Bloomington against the Nebraska offense, that

559
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Speaker 2: just disappears. Like I think the right offense can push

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Speaker 2: Indiana around on the ground.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's Nebraska. Okay, Well, to keep things

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Speaker 1: within the context of our trust esp Plus, Nebraska's got

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Speaker 1: the top defense, yeah in the country per that metric,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think they're good enough on some level

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Speaker 1: to contain the Indiana offense. Indiana is buttoned up, but

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Speaker 1: I do think that this Nebraska offense gives them a

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Speaker 1: different look. To your point, it's a versatile defense that

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Speaker 1: can adapt. They held a pass heavy Colorado to ten points.

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Speaker 1: They held a run heavy Ruckers to seven points. Indiana

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Speaker 1: is better than both of those in my opinion. But

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Speaker 1: I'm generally skittish about picking teams in their first real challenge,

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Speaker 1: and I think this is their first real challenge in

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Speaker 1: terms of going up against a pretty good defense. The

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Speaker 1: bigger question for me is actually the Indiana defense, and

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Speaker 1: in particular one statistical tendency that I picked up, and

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Speaker 1: you're going to have to afford me some time to

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Speaker 1: give this one out there too. Okay, I know you

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Speaker 1: love these, Dan, I'm doing this for you. Beg spreadsheet special.

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Speaker 1: This is a spreadsheet special. One of the things we

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Speaker 1: talked about with Indiana in the preseason was how bad

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Speaker 1: the past defense was really bad last year, so they

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Speaker 1: took on a whole bunch of transfers to try and

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Speaker 1: plug gaps see if it works. So far, it's worked

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Speaker 1: really well, and it's worked to the tune of playing

585
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Speaker 1: zone eighty one percent of the time. So for context,

586
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Speaker 1: national average is about sixty three percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: Indiana plays the ninth highest rate of zone in all

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Speaker 1: of FBS. That's interesting to me because Indiana may need

589
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Speaker 1: to break that tendency against Nebraska. Nebraska is tenth nationally

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Speaker 1: in yards per drop back against zone. They're one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty fifth against ban coverage. Basically, they're dumping it

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Speaker 1: off every time they see man looks. So I think

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to watch that, and people who are

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Speaker 1: going through the film afterwards are going to have to

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Speaker 1: report back. We will get the numbers on our spreadsheet

596
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Speaker 1: and all that, but I'm curious to see if there

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Speaker 1: is any sort of adjustment with how Indiana plays against

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Speaker 1: Nebraska plays against ill in Riola in light of that statistic,

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: We will see by the way erosity for me, including

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Speaker 2: two of the absolute worst Big Ten quarterbacks this season,

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Speaker 2: that's eighth and caliac Manus and Hudson Card throwing into

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Speaker 2: the Nebraska defense.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Okay, I think Indiana wins. I think it's twenty

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Speaker 1: four to twenty one. I think it's a good game

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Speaker 1: decided by a field goal. So I'm taking the point

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Speaker 1: six and a half. Is your line fair enough?

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Speaker 2: I was talk Excuse me, I was talking about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about Nebraska throwing into his own Yes.

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Speaker 1: Correct. Some of the defenses that they faced have not

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Speaker 1: been incredible. I get it. I get it. Doug, all right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's jump around a little bit more. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: three point thirty on a plac is it o Bigo man?

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Speaker 1: Is the this is the Alabama Tennessee game, the rivalry. Yes.

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Speaker 1: At time of release, at time of listening. For some

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Speaker 1: folks out there, you may be able to go out

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Speaker 1: to our social media accounts and see the video that

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Speaker 1: Dan put together on the cigar Tradition Love It Yes,

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Speaker 1: as part of this rivalry. It is Alabama on the

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Speaker 1: road in Niland Stadium. They are a three point road favorite.

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Speaker 1: I talked about this game on Tuesday when I gave

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Speaker 1: my updated bracket projections, so if you caught that, you'll

623
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Speaker 1: already know that I've got Bama winning this game. But

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Speaker 1: I do think it's a playoff elimination game. I stand

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Speaker 1: by what I said earlier. I think the SEC gets

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Speaker 1: four teams in and I think this is a matchup

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Speaker 1: that delivers a knockout blowd to whoever loses. Okay, I

628
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Speaker 1: almost recoil a little bit putting everything within the context

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Speaker 1: of the playoff, because I do think there's probably half

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Speaker 1: of our listeners out there who don't give a rip

631
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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 2: But everything after the butt is what you really mean.

633
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Speaker 2: But I care, and we care, and I think this

634
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Speaker 2: is interesting true.

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Speaker 1: So for me, this isn't Ashanti game. It's about trust, babe. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I have no clue who to trust. That's why it's

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Speaker 1: an Ashanti game. Both teams have underwhelmed me the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, so I turned to you. I will

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Speaker 1: allow you to give your thoughts first. Who do you

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Speaker 1: trust more here and.

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00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 2: Why I think I may trust Alabama more, even with

642
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Speaker 2: the needing a miraculous throw to Ryan Williams to beat

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Speaker 2: Georgia and you know, the big play on defense at

644
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Speaker 2: the end and needing to survive Leonora Sellers, which is

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Speaker 2: a very strange thing to say to sort of curious

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Speaker 2: Rose at the end of that game with an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to win or tie. South Carolina also had the greatest

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Speaker 2: onside kick I've seen, and it was really just a

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Speaker 2: banner day for onside kicks between the would you say

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Speaker 2: three thousand rpm spinner?

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Speaker 1: It was a three thousand rpm spinner.

652
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: An Oregon kicking it into the spleen of the Ohio

653
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: State player. Got a nice day for onside. I trust

654
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: Alabama a little bit more because they score points. And

655
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: I mistakenly went into this season, went into the SEC

656
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: season thinking, well, if nothing else, Tennessee should be able

657
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: to get after a quarterback and have an angry defensive

658
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: line and put up some points. And that's a pretty

659
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: winning combination. Tennessee in their SEC games is scoring at

660
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Speaker 2: the rate of Florida State, Northwestern, UCLA, Temple.

661
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: This is not by the way you look this number up,

662
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: actual number.

663
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: It's one point four points per drive, which is a

664
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Speaker 2: sub one hundred number against Arkansas, Oklahoma and Florida. And

665
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: if you look at this is another team with stinko

666
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: stretches full on halves with like I wrote down, I'm

667
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: not going to play divorzak here ty I wrote down

668
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: on the Spike TV yellow legal pad. This is what

669
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: they did. This has been their first half offenses in

670
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: the SEC. Punt punt, punt downs, fumble, punt, punt, punt interception. Wow,

671
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: that's what you bringing to an Alabama game. Alabama, deeply

672
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 2: flawed team. That's what you're bringing to this game. On offense,

673
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: this is one of the two things. Again, I'll speak

674
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: for myself, I expected of you to do somewhat well,

675
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: especially after like what they did against NC State, what

676
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: they were doing early on this season on offense, dropping

677
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: fifty sixty seventy points, putting up historic offensive efficiency numbers.

678
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Speaker 1: I don't trust Tennessee. I just don't. I gave you.

679
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: You have an off week. Everybody has an off week.

680
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: You have an off couple of weeks. You're like, man, h,

681
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: that's weird. We'll see, we'll get it figured out.

682
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: And that's what concerns me because it's been three games

683
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: in a row now where they've really struggling in a

684
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: row Oklahoma, Arkansas and Florida Florida. I'll say this, if

685
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: you're not scoring in Arkansas in Florida, it's a stretch

686
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: for me. And you rightfully pointed this out. It's a

687
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: stretch for me that you're suddenly gonna start scoring Onbama.

688
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: Not a perfect Bama team, it's not a perfect.

689
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: And again again give a shout out to Bill c

690
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: in THEESP plus per that metric, this is the worst

691
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: Alabama defense in at least ten seasons. Sure, but they're

692
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: still top twenty. Dan there still top twenty. So I

693
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: think eventually Tennessee gets there. It may not be this season.

694
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: I still do believe in Nico and that he's built different,

695
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: but I do think we can conclude at this point

696
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: that it's taking a minute here for this to fully

697
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: be realized, to hit this ceiling that everybody was so

698
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: excited about with Nico. The offense just has not been

699
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: there last couple of weeks in SEC play. It's been

700
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Speaker 1: quite bad.

701
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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, and it's look Alabama was pretty mortal last

702
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: week on offense. The mismatch here might be Tennessee's defensive

703
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: line looking like a winning defensive line holding up its

704
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: end of the bargain against Alabama, who has struggled in

705
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: pass protection for stretches this year, starting against South Carolina.

706
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: Obviously we saw it four stretches against what South Florida

707
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: early on this season. Sure, and they've made personnel changes

708
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: and they've tried to correct certain things, and they're dealing

709
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: with injuries, but Tennessee's gonna get after everybody on that

710
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: defensive line. I think Tennessee fans are going to be

711
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: incensed after this game, thinking defense did enough, Like we

712
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: saw what South Carolina did. I saw Ryan Williams had

713
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: a quote saying that South Carolina did a good job

714
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: of funneling Ryan Williams essentially away from the action, like

715
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: they ran a defense that sort of isolated him on

716
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: part of the field. And obviously it opened things up

717
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: for other players on the Alabama offense, like Jeremy Bernard.

718
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: But I just don't think Tennessee has that pop right

719
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: now on offense. It's sort of an all or nothing

720
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: thing that like, okay, fine, maybe they'll find, you know,

721
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 2: Dante Thorton or something. For sixty plus yards but I

722
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: think you need to beat Alabama by making a lot

723
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: of plays, and this does not seem like a lot

724
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: of play offense. So I have down here, I think

725
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: you need to score Roald thirty points to beat Alabama.

726
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 1: I have this as twenty four to seventeen Bama. Wow.

727
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: Low scoring, Yeah, relatively low scoring. I am interested about

728
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: the point you raise with Tennessee's defensive line because I

729
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: feel like I've been talking about their d line the

730
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: last six weeks now, truly all season long, about this

731
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: defensive line and how how highly I think of it,

732
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: and I'm waiting for it to change a game in

733
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: the way that I've expected. You know, like they're bringing pressure,

734
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: they're not necessarily getting sacks with that pressure. The rate

735
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: of sacks to pressure is relatively low. You know, you

736
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: change a game, that's something. But you bring pressure on

737
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: a guy like Jalen Milroe is gonna run, and that's

738
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: part of the game plan at this point. Actually, that

739
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: might be the whole Bama game plan, to put him

740
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: on the run and get him outside the pocket and

741
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: try to mitigate some of you know, whatever issues they

742
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: might have in pass protection. I like Bama big here actually,

743
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: and I hate myself for it because I really don't

744
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: like taking road teams. At some point this season the

745
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: worm turned and betting on road teams has come back

746
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: to really really bite me. But I've got this at

747
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: something like thirty four twenty one Bama. I think it's

748
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: a fun game with big plays through the air. I

749
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: just think the trend of Tennessee not being able to

750
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: score is more worrying than anything else, you know, more

751
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 1: worrying than Bama playing with its food. Let's say since

752
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: that Georgia game a couple weeks back, thirty four to

753
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: twenty one, let's lock up Bama. Why not flow block

754
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: of the week.

755
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: But that's too many points for me to see Tennessee's

756
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: defense give up. They really just that's that's what it

757
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: came down to for me. They're like, they can lose

758
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: this game, they can lose game comfortably. It's too many points.

759
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: Let's again jump arounds. Go to twelve Eastern high noon

760
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: on ABC. This one's Miami at Louisville. Yes, very consequential

761
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: matchup in the ACC. Miami minus four and a half

762
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: on the road. A couple of weeks ago, on a

763
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: Tuesday show, You and I had a long winded discussion

764
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: about Louisville, how Louisville was getting sacks without blitzing, and

765
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: I thought in that moment that could be something to

766
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: watch in a game like this With cam Ward in Miami,

767
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: who you know, you don't want to commit too much

768
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: to him scrambling because then that leads susceptible in the

769
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: back end of things. Now, as the season has gone on,

770
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: some of those numbers have normalized out to the point

771
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: that I don't think it's as big of a factor right.

772
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's something we could bank on at

773
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: this point. I don't understand this point spread, I really don't.

774
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: I think Louisville has proven it can hang with good teams,

775
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: but the pass defense has really been an issue. And

776
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: I think we both have an a version of Tyler

777
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: Shuck in a big game. So if you're betting on

778
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: Louisville here, you're hoping for big runs by Isaac Brown.

779
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: You're hoping it's a another Miami spot where they seem

780
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: seventy two percent interested and keep it close. But I

781
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: think Miami is the better team through and through. Truly,

782
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: if you're betting on Louisville here, you like them because

783
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: they're at home. You like them because there is the

784
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: crystal ball Miami disinterest effect that we've seen on display

785
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: a couple times now and throughout the years. But I,

786
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: for as much as I would like to see Louisville

787
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: shake up this race in the ACC, I feel like

788
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Louisville is a four or five lost team that Miami

789
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: can handle. So I've got this one at something like

790
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty six. Miami.

791
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: What's doing the work for your Miami interest right now?

792
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: The lines? Ultimately lines? Is there a result? A result?

793
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: What do you mean by yeah?

794
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: So like Miami's resume this year is coming out week one.

795
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: I discount Week one somewhat but not fully. You have

796
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: to obviously give Miami credit for beating Florida on the

797
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: road the way that they did. But since then, it's

798
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: the result. Have they taken care of business in impressive

799
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: ways against anybody?

800
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: Interesting?

801
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: Like they've played two ACC games. They played Virginia Tech

802
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: short week coming off of a road game against USF

803
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: in state, not a crazy road trip, and needed a

804
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: miracle at the end of that game to win, right.

805
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: They needed to survive that game, and it was a

806
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: very sloppy affair at home, and they traveled across the country,

807
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: which is situationally difficult, and had to come back from

808
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: a monster deficit to beat a decent but not killer

809
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: cow team.

810
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: Sure, look, they showed character at the end of the calgame,

811
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: come back in the manner that they did. They shouldn't

812
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: have been down. Falling behind in the manna that they

813
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: did was not acceptable. Okay, if they continue on that course,

814
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: they're going to drop a game or two. They just are.

815
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: We've talked about it before. There's some big road games

816
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: still in the schedule. This week is one of them

817
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: against Louisville. I don't know if there is that result. Dan,

818
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: To be perfect honest with you, I think I am

819
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: putting a fair amount of trust in the town that

820
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: I know they have on hand. I love cam Ward,

821
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: I love Damian Martinez. I really like their lines. That

822
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: has been the thing I have been fixated on since

823
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: the moment we started previewing all things acc I just

824
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: have a certain amount of confidence that those units will perform.

825
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: That also, by the way, that's kind of the story

826
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: of college football on the top teams this season. There

827
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: is not, to say blind faith that the talent will

828
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: come through, but definitely one eye closed faith sure some

829
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: of this talent is going to live up to our

830
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: preseason billing. That's where I'm at with Miami. I think

831
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: it's more me reacting to what I have seen from

832
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: Louisville over the last couple of weeks, right, which frankly

833
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: has left me a bit underwhelmed. Louisville is probably good

834
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: enough to be within seven to ten points of most

835
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: teams that they play. I just don't feel like they

836
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: are good enough to get over the hump and actually

837
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: get a win, especially against a team like a Miami. Right.

838
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: And they've lost to a decent team in SMU at

839
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: home within the last couple of weeks yep, at the

840
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: very least decent, obviously different team once they made the

841
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: quarterback change, and kind of close against Virginia last week

842
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: on the road.

843
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: Yep.

844
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: This one was actually the lone like agonizing pick.

845
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: But I think I'm going Louisville here.

846
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: Oh, don't do it, man, I think I'm like, I

847
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: actually wrote down Miami.

848
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: Why would you do this? Cheers?

849
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: I wrote down Miami thirty four to twenty eight.

850
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you need to.

851
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: I think you need to be buttoned up to win

852
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: a game like this, and Miami is not buttoned up

853
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: really on either side of the ball. With the way

854
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech ran on them, with the way col passed

855
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: on them, those are two different elements of an offense

856
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: that Miami struggled with in their two games against ACCU.

857
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: True, it's listen, I get where you're coming from. I

858
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: just Louisville has left me very underwhelmed. I'm with you.

859
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: I actually think Miami will pull out this game. I

860
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: think they're gonna sneak it out. I've watched enough Mario

861
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: christ Walga, South Oregon and Miami.

862
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: Potential snake in the toilet. I found her old sound,

863
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: but the way continue.

864
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: To think the new one is superior, if I do

865
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: say so myself. No, I think the Louisville defense can

866
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: make enough plays. I think the running game is interesting

867
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: to me with Louisville, and I think that there's enough pop,

868
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: enough of a connection between Jacorey Brooks and Tyler Shuck.

869
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: I don't think Louisville wins this game. I have Miami

870
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 2: winning at thirty to twenty seven.

871
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so we sort of agree. I've got Miami covering

872
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: on the road, which I hate, Oh god, I hate

873
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: that I'm doing Miami's coming off of a bye.

874
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: This is situationally as advantageous an acc game that Miami

875
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: has had so far.

876
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to another night game here again,

877
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: jumping around a little bit, trying to keep it fresh.

878
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: Seven pm ESPN. This is LSU minus three on the

879
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: road at Arkansas. Is this not a letdown? Look ahead situation? Dan?

880
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 1: Ooh loop god, dun sandwich you. I'm so hungry. I'm

881
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: so hungry. Oh boy. A win against Old Miss, big

882
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: win at home against Old Miss week ago where crowd

883
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: rushed the field. A big game on the road next

884
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: week against Texas A and M which on the Tuesday

885
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: episode I talked about is potentially a play in game

886
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: for playoff eligibility. Yeah. And this week sandwiched in the

887
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: middle after that big emotional win with a big emotional

888
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: game on deck, Old Arkansas, Dan, mm hm, little Old

889
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: Arkansas on the road at night in Fayetteville, Sam Pittman,

890
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 1: maybe still playing first job. Who's to say? Who's to say?

891
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: Arkansas coming off a bye, which you know you like

892
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: love a bye home against the letdown team. Yeah, and

893
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: this game's usually caught of nuts. Man, it is nuts.

894
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: The last four meetings have been decided by exactly three points.

895
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: M h, your line is three points in favor of LSU.

896
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: Seems like an extraordinarily bad situation for LSU. Yeah, and

897
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: I do think there is a tendency for giving up

898
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: big plays that we probably should mention here in the spot.

899
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: Better against the run, but they still give up some

900
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: big plays.

901
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I am not willing to say Arkansas wins this

902
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: game out right, okay, but I'm also not willing to

903
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: lay the points. I am sort of in that no

904
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: man's land where I could see being something like thirty

905
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: four thirty one LSU and a push get off the

906
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: fence tie. I can't say push on this show. People

907
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: will make fun of me. Where are you at fence? Talk?

908
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: Talk me into one side of this versus the other.

909
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna be su

910
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: right and act like I've got a hard and fast

911
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: pick here. I came to this recording genuinely not knowing

912
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: who to pick.

913
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: This is not technically a true snake in the toilet game,

914
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 2: because nobody sits down on the throne expecting the possibility

915
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: of look this up an inland Taipan tie the most

916
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: venomous snake in the world found in like the Australian desert.

917
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: But joy, it's inner game tie where this is going

918
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: to seem like an LSU win and I think Arkansas

919
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 2: is going to steal it out of nowhere hogs bluck

920
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: of the week?

921
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: Whoa bluck of the week? Oh? I like this. I

922
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: think this.

923
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: I think LSU is going to run out of gas

924
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: and what I think is going to bite them perhaps

925
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: with some fangs coming out of the water tie. The

926
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: inability to consistently run the ball with a lead, I

927
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: think is going to be a troubling element.

928
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: To this game. Arkansas.

929
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: Arkansas's their defense still gives up a lot of big plays,

930
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: but they're one of the best blitzing teams in the country.

931
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: LSU has been very good at protecting Garrett Andnsmeyer by

932
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: and large, but I think Arkansas coming up with creative

933
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 2: ways to send pressure is going to wear LSU down.

934
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: I have Arkansas twenty eight twenty seven late dramatic at

935
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: home snake and the toilet win.

936
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: You know, the last time we had a snake in

937
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: the toilet Saturday, I was quite literally on Google, looking

938
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: up to see if it was something that could happen.

939
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: And it has, Right, it has actually happened. It's not common,

940
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: but it had. Yeah, it's happened. It's happened. I don't

941
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: think it's happened in my area, thankfully. What do you do?

942
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: What is the actual move?

943
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: Even if you somehow understand that there's a snake in

944
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: the toilet and you are able to move before getting bitten,

945
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: before whatever kind of snake makes its way out, if

946
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: it happens to be a venomous snake, that is not

947
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: all snakes are. Like what goes through your mind the

948
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: next time, the next fifty times? I don't you make

949
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: your way to the toy. Don't know if you ever

950
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: recover from that.

951
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: You might have to get one of those contraptions like

952
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: they have in China where you're standing above it and

953
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: not sitting down. I'd be terrefough that was a thing. Yeah, no,

954
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: to go to Asia, man, So it's a whole thing.

955
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: Just got to bring a plastic bag into the bathroom,

956
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: stand near the toilet, be ready to dispose.

957
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: I'll think you recover from that. I don't. I don't

958
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: think I think of most actual snake in the toilet.

959
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: It's far too traumatic. Yeah, I go Arcis saw too.

960
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: What the hell go together? Why not? No one's turning

961
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: to this show for real betting advice anyway. No, then Norse?

962
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: Should they go Arkansas? And let's close out our big

963
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: game segment here at the top three point thirty ESPN

964
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame minus eleven. Oh god, is it snaky? It

965
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: is sneaky. Yeah, it is. And this line went way up.

966
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: When I made the dock it was seven and a

967
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: half Notre Dame. It went up to eleven. That feels

968
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: like a lot to me. Now, I'm a timid Notre

969
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: Dame fan at this point in life. Anytime I see

970
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: a point spread, I say, it doesn't matter what game

971
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: it is. If they're favored, I'm like, Oh, I don't

972
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: know about this, They're not covering that. I was very

973
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: skeptical of this Notre Dame team, as you know, at

974
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: the start of the season. I do think we have

975
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: seen real progress, though, and I shudder a little bit

976
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: to say that, because it's not necessarily the progress I

977
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: expected we would see. But we have seen real progress

978
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: along the lines. We have seen the passing game get

979
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: a little bit more confident last week, especially where they're

980
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: at the point now where they can use the combination

981
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: of Riley Leonard's legs and Jeremiah loves versatility to open

982
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: up more down the field and start taking those shots.

983
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: It took a minute, it did, but coming out of

984
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: the bye week, the bye week came at a good time.

985
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: It felt like they took a big step forward last week.

986
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: That pass should absolutely be there this week against Georgia Tech.

987
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: This is not a great Georgia Tech defense. I just

988
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: don't like giving Tech that many points for what is

989
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: in effect a home game. They're playing it at Mercedes

990
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Alta. This is against a Notre

991
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: Dame defense that just lost Benjamin Morrison for the season

992
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: with a hip injury. They're already nicked up with other

993
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: injuries along the line and elsewhere. So I think Notre

994
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: Dame wins this game. But Georgia Tech man is pesky

995
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: as hell. Talk about a snake in the toilet. Please

996
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: don't play the sound anymore. I don't need to hear it.

997
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: Snake goo. That is Georgia Tech's whole ethos this season.

998
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: So I don't have Notre Dame covering. I've got him

999
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: winning something. I am thirty three to twenty four. Okay,

1000
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: somewhere in that neighborhood. They can run the ball, they

1001
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: can open up some looks down the field. Hopefully Riley

1002
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: Leonard continues to progress. They got Navy on deck next week,

1003
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: which will be a whole separate other conversation, but for

1004
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: the time being, anyway, let's go thirty three to twenty

1005
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: four Notre Dame on the road. I have Notre Dame

1006
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: covering here.

1007
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: I think Georgia Tech has a fun ceiling, but I

1008
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: don't think it has a Notre Dame ceiling. I think

1009
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is getting things in order, as you mentioned,

1010
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: and like the injury stuff doesn't make me feel great,

1011
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: but I don't think Georgia Tech is the team to

1012
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: take advantage. They needed that last second long run from

1013
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: Jamal Haynes to beat North Carolina last week.

1014
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1015
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: I have Notre Dame here thirty one seventeen. I think

1016
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: there's still so much to this Notre Dame team up

1017
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: front on defense that they can force a couple three

1018
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: and outs early and pace a comfortable win against Georgia Tech.

1019
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: On the road, and it's also an ideal spot for

1020
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: Notre Dame to continue to take shots. Yea right, whether controlled,

1021
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: no win, no glare, nice smooth surface like, the conditions

1022
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: are right to try to take advantage. And when you

1023
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 2: look at the back half of Notre Dame schedule, if

1024
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is indeed of playoff caliber, there are a

1025
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: lot of opportunities for this Notre Dame team to get

1026
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: reps in looking like a more complete offense against as

1027
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 2: scary as Navy is. Okay, no, look, yeah, go ahead,

1028
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 2: good back half of this schedule with USC with Virginia,

1029
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: did I see that Notre Dame, there are plenty of

1030
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: opportunities to try and grow within a season offensively and

1031
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: stretch the field.

1032
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: Now look, I mean I said this a few weeks ago.

1033
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: It actually is a great season. Great season. Have both

1034
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: Navy and Army, yeah, on the schedule, just because that

1035
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: will actually add to your strength the schedule. Both of

1036
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: those are pretty good teams. But it's Tech this week,

1037
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: it's Navy next. They close out. Then in November, after

1038
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: a bye with Art of State Virginia, a neutral site

1039
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: game against Army, I believe in Yankee Stadium, and then

1040
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: on the road at USC they are project right, the

1041
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: projected right now to win all those games. Okay, but

1042
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: we'll see all right, so we agree somewhat on the winner,

1043
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily the points. Bread. I'm just a little scaredy

1044
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: cat here.

1045
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard at his best B plus or even better

1046
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: because of his legs, be minus.

1047
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: You just give him a solid B. Okay, solid B

1048
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: getting better though, he's getting better. You want to be

1049
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: quad fathers here. Let's think about the heart, the passion,

1050
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: the love, the commitment and the energy you're willing to

1051
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: put into it. Sorry, I get into it. You're good,

1052
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: Tom Plattz the quad father do not do that workout. Disclaimer.

1053
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: Let's talk some quads right. Depending on how you watch

1054
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: the games on Saturday, you may or may not have

1055
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: the option to put four games on it once, just

1056
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: sort of within your little console there they do it

1057
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: for you. In other cases, we've got for ballers who

1058
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: like to do it manually. They've just got a bunch

1059
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: of iPads and TVs and they sort of assemble it. It

1060
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: will however you're doing it. Let's pick out four games

1061
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: that we think are of interest in the early block

1062
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: that people can put on simultaneously. I've got four Okay,

1063
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: start here at noon. I've got Auburn at Missouri. Missoo Missouri.

1064
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: I said, Auburn at Missouri, Missouri favored by when Nellie

1065
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: calls it Missouri. Yeah. You got Virginia at Clemson, Clemson

1066
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: favored by twenty one and a half. We've got South

1067
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: Carolina at Oklahoma. This is like a big ten West

1068
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: game in the SEC. We've got UH Oklahoma favored by three. Okay,

1069
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: and we've got UH Arizona State. I put them on

1070
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: the list here too. Arizona State at Cincinnati. Now, before

1071
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: we hit record, you said that Sam Levitt's out.

1072
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: Sam Levitt is out. It's gonna be a Jeff Sims

1073
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: game still in college. Oh my god, Jeff Simms.

1074
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: All right, So I'll take Indiana and knowing that Jeff

1075
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: Simms is playing, you mean Cincinnati, but Cincinnati. What did

1076
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: I say Indiana? Yeah? I don't know why I said Indiana,

1077
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: But I'll go Cincinnati over Arizona State. I'll go Cincinnati

1078
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: minus two and a half. I was gonna go ASU,

1079
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: but with San Levin out, I don't really like that situation.

1080
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: I can't see betting on Oklahoma right now, just given

1081
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: where they're at, I have no idea what to expect

1082
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: in South Carolina. Look good, truly look good, at least

1083
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: defensively against Alabama, if not for shooting themselves in the

1084
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: foot a bunch of times, they probably win that game.

1085
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Clemson minus whatever against Virginia. I like Virginia.

1086
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: They're an interesting team. They're better on defense than you

1087
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: might think, but their issue is allowing big plays through

1088
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,959
Speaker 1: the air and not finishing drives on offense, right, and

1089
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: I do think Clemson has gotten better at going downfield

1090
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: this season. And then that brings me to the Auburn game. Okay,

1091
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: this lion came down and I don't understand it. When

1092
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: I made this document, it was Missoo minus six and

1093
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: a half and now it's mzoom minus four and a half.

1094
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this and I'm saying, all right, well,

1095
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: Maszoo got a good neck crack in last week on

1096
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: the road at UMass. We had been waiting for it

1097
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: to happen all season long, albeit against a better team

1098
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: than you Mass, but still it seems like things came together.

1099
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: Maybe they needed a game like that to get things going. Sure,

1100
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 1: I look at this matchup and I say, I don't

1101
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: I don't like Auburn that much at all. I don't

1102
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: know what Auburn is. At least I know kind of

1103
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: what Maszoo is, even if it's underwhelming. So I don't

1104
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: understand why this line came down in the manner that

1105
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: it did. Well, I can tell you this.

1106
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: Whatever you think of Oklahoma as a team that has

1107
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: fallen off a cliff tie, Auburn's a little bit worse

1108
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: than that exactly.

1109
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: That's why you're losing the way that they did to Oklahoma.

1110
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1111
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 2: I think we've had enough time, Like Auburn's coming off

1112
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: of a bye, so there's at least that, But is that.

1113
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: Worth two points? That's That's sort of my whole theory here,

1114
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: is that there's got to be something I'm missing for

1115
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: the line to come down, or somebody a rich Auburn

1116
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: booster who is very confident in this game. How does

1117
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: this line move? Is there an injury that I don't

1118
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: know about? Maybe? Sure, we're covering all these games, I

1119
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: mean there are things that fall under the raidar all

1120
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: the time. But somebody needs to instruct me as to

1121
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: why this line came down. If it is solely somebody

1122
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: believing in Auburn, I would love to talk to that

1123
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: person and see why what are we believing in here?

1124
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: Well, look, if nothing else, the Miszoo win over Vandy

1125
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: has aged really well. After Vandy's win against Alabama and

1126
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: Kentucky wins against them, you have to bet on what

1127
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: you haven't seen. If you're going with Auburn here, you

1128
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: have to bet on They're not a complete team. They're

1129
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: not a consistent team, but every now and then they

1130
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: put it together for a few drives and maybe those

1131
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 2: few drives turn into all of the drives against a

1132
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: team that's as flawed weirdly so offensively like Miszoo has

1133
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: been this year.

1134
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna need after this season, like

1135
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: a sixty minutes investigation into how they have had so

1136
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: much trouble generating big plays despite having Luther Burden on

1137
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: the roster right, and they had a lot back too.

1138
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't just Luther Burden. I mean they lost a

1139
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: lot in the running game. And you know, it's not

1140
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: a full complete package of last year's team just returning

1141
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: in state, but even still to be as bad as

1142
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: they've been at generating these big shots. I don't There's

1143
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: a lot of sides of this that I do not understand.

1144
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: We came into the season thinking that Tea mac and

1145
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: Luther Burden were kind of like one A one B

1146
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: one B one eight whatever, and both of those offenses

1147
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: seem to have fallen off of a cliff in terms

1148
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: of explosivity, which is crazy.

1149
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the points here. I don't like

1150
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: either team that much.

1151
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: Ty, the line is sliding in a direction I'm going

1152
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: to take when if I don't like either team, I'm just.

1153
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: Gonna take points. I'm gonna go Missoo. Okay, if I'm wrong,

1154
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: I'll come back on Saturday night. We can talk it through.

1155
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: I'll do a Meakalpa. I just I don't get it.

1156
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: I really don't.

1157
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,479
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the best thing about Missoo this year?

1158
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: What's the best result, what's the best stretch? What is

1159
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: it about Miszoo?

1160
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, I know, listen, listen, you're singing

1161
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: to the choir. I get it. I'm just I'm not

1162
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: ready to held off and Vanderbilt. There is a bunch

1163
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: of lines this week, frankly that I don't understand that

1164
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: have moved in a way that I don't expect. Right now,

1165
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: Ucla at Rutgers. Rutgers is down to four and a

1166
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: half points. Ucla is a wreck. Yes, they're a right.

1167
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: Their run defense is okay. Maybe that's why this line

1168
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: is where it's at. But like traveling cross country, I

1169
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: don't know if I like that, But I'm not gonna

1170
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: bet that game. But I'm watching that game that's at

1171
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: noon on FS one. I do like Wisconsin minus seven

1172
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: on the road at Northwestern. I think I am in

1173
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: on Wisconsin. They pounded Rutgers last week, they pounded Perdue

1174
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: the week before, and they had a lead on USC

1175
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: the week before that. Right, there is a good chance

1176
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: that Wisconsin's better than we think and that they have

1177
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: found something of a rhythm now post TVD. So I'm

1178
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: willing to lay those points with Wisconsin. That could be

1179
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: one of the money bets that I post out to Twitter,

1180
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: depending how I'm feeling on Saturday morning.

1181
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: Wisconsin has an interesting stretch after Northwestern. You mentioned them.

1182
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: They also had a really nice first half against USC.

1183
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: But pounding Rutgers and pounding Purdue. Yes, those are the

1184
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: consecutive they've been throwing downfield more. They even succeeded downfield

1185
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: a little bit against usc which is not the biggest

1186
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: challenge in the world, but they did the right thing.

1187
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: They've been running the ball better. I think maybe throwing

1188
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: the ball has opened up the run weirdly enough for Wisconsin.

1189
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 2: I just don't know how seriously you take the Rutgers

1190
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: and Purdue wins. For as interesting and fun and strong

1191
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: as Rutgers is in certain elements, defensively, they've been sort

1192
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 2: of all over the place this year. If Wisconsin is

1193
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: in fact capital p pretty good, don't they have? They

1194
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 2: have Oregon, Penn State in Iowa in some order in

1195
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: the coming weeks after Northwestern. This is a really interesting

1196
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: big ten upper middle class tipping point moment I think

1197
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: for Wisconsin, or a litmus test because Northwestern, for as

1198
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: much as their offense is struggled, their defense has been fine.

1199
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: Their defense is pretty good like fringe top twenty.

1200
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: And offensively they've grown. It was thirty seven to ten.

1201
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: I guess against Maryland they've been throwing the ball better

1202
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: and better with Jack Lousch as he's gotten more reps.

1203
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: So if Wisconsin goes I think this is the final

1204
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: game on the lake for Northwestern. If Wisconsin goes to

1205
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: Evanston and beats them twenty seven thirteen, twenty seven to fourteen,

1206
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 2: I think it's reasonable to say Wisconsin has turned an

1207
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: interesting corner with Braydon Locke.

1208
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the next four games on the schedule was

1209
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: they've got some heavy hitters.

1210
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: I It was at Nebraska too, after Oregon, before they

1211
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 2: finish against Minnesota.

1212
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: After this week it's home against Penn State, which is

1213
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: an interesting spot by the way, with Penn State having

1214
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: a big game of its own on deck after this one,

1215
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: but next week Penn State at home. The week after

1216
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: on the road at Iowa before bye week, coming out

1217
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: of before Oregon. Yeah, coming out of the bye they

1218
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: host Oregon. You get to go to that game. It's close,

1219
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: it is close.

1220
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: Unfortunately it's mid November in the Upper Midwest, which is Okay,

1221
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see where my.

1222
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: Head is at and where Oregon's at. Oregon is coming

1223
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: to town to Madison, and then it is on the

1224
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: road November twenty third at Nebraska before they close things out,

1225
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: rivalry game against Minnesota. Acts. Yeah, Okay, let's go to

1226
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: the afternoon quad. To you is how bad you really

1227
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: won place? Did I hit the button before you made

1228
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: your picks? I didn't make a pick for Wisconsin. Oh

1229
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 1: who do you got?

1230
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go It's gonna be a pretty day. If

1231
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: it were windy or gus Rainey or something like that,

1232
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: then Northwestern.

1233
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 1: Would be a no brainer. I'm gonna go Wisconsin here,

1234
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: all right, hay up, but I'm going with Badgers. Sorry,

1235
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: I got a little no It's okay. Preemptive platzing three

1236
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: point thirty that afternoon block, I'm calling out Toledo versus

1237
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: an IU. Give a shout out to our g five

1238
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters out there. It's a big game. Actually,

1239
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: and IU Toledo both four and two both have some

1240
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: Mac aspirations, and IU is favored by two and a

1241
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: half points. This game's got sixteen fourteen written all over it.

1242
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: I think if you like defense, as many of our

1243
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: rebawlers do, this would be an interesting game to watch.

1244
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: That's why I included in this squad. So I would

1245
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: take points personally, I would relay any points in this game.

1246
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: But it's meaningful MAC action. We like maction here on

1247
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,959
Speaker 1: the show, so why not Also in that afternoon block

1248
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: at four pm on Fox, it is Colorado at Arizona.

1249
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: Arizona favored by three and a half points. Dan, what

1250
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: is your state of play with Arizona right now?

1251
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: I think they're a poorly coach team and if winning

1252
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 2: is a skill, it's a skill that they don't possess

1253
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: right now.

1254
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: I don't love them, but.

1255
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: I think there's a very specific way to beat Arizona.

1256
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: That's by running straight at them. And if there's anything

1257
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: we know about Colorado is they love. They don't run

1258
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: at anybody to avoid their own running backs and their

1259
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: own offensive line trying to open up lanes.

1260
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: I think this is a game.

1261
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 2: I think Colorado is a better team than Arizona, and

1262
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 2: I think Colorado's gonna lose. I think they're going to

1263
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: approach this game offensively, in a backwards way, and I

1264
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 2: think Arizona is going to find a way that you

1265
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: could argue that was probably I mean, you can't even

1266
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: argue with that strongly that last week was Arizona's worst

1267
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: week because of listen, it was last week it was

1268
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: against BYU, But then you look at the Kansas State game, like, well,

1269
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 2: they have two worst weeks, which means they're not very good.

1270
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm going Colorado. I'm gonna go Colorado.

1271
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Arizona here. I think Colorado is going

1272
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 2: to give this game away late.

1273
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: I totally see it. I looked at the spreadsheet. I

1274
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: saw a lot of red on the Arizona rush defense

1275
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: side of things, and I thought the same thing. But

1276
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: I've got Colorado find a way to win this one.

1277
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: I've got them winning their next two, okay, which gets

1278
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: them Bowl eligible, which in and of itself would be

1279
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: a pretty big deal. And if you'll get the schedule

1280
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: they like. I don't want to get too far out

1281
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: over my skis. They could get to eight or nine wins.

1282
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: She could, They absolutely could. So I'm on Colorado, You're

1283
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: on Arizona. USC minus seven at Maryland four PMFS one.

1284
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: Talk to me about this game. I know the numbers,

1285
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: I know the travel stats. Yeah, I get why somebody

1286
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: would look at this and pick Maryland. I just think

1287
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: Maryland kind of sucks. I think they suck to bye week.

1288
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: To come out of a bye week last week and

1289
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: lose by twenty seven to Northwestern? Are you kidding me? No?

1290
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 2: That points to a team not taking Northwestern seriously. Maybe

1291
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: there was reason not to up until that point, but

1292
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 2: you got to take everybody seriously on your schedule if

1293
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 2: you're a quality team.

1294
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: Out of a bye, though, that's the thing out of

1295
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: a bye. You don't usually have look aheads coming out

1296
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: of a bye. I agree. I know this is a

1297
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,959
Speaker 1: bigger game for him, but I think they might just suck.

1298
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Maryland sucks.

1299
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 2: I think they're very average, and I think we have

1300
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 2: two average teams here, and I'm gonna take the points

1301
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 2: with a home dog. With USC traveling across the country

1302
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 2: in a huge letdown spot after giving away the Penn

1303
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: State game, I think they're gonna pull this game out.

1304
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna win this game by three or

1305
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: four points. But I don't think either one of these

1306
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: teams is clean in any regard, so I'm gonna take

1307
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 2: points here.

1308
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: I know the history.

1309
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: I think USC is able to reverse course and do

1310
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: enough on the ground where they're actually Like you mentioned

1311
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: liking Woody Marks and Quentin Joyner, I think you're spot

1312
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: on there. Those guys are great. Woody Marks reminds me

1313
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: a little bit of the best of Bucky Irving at Oregon,

1314
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: where there's an incredible amount of body control and vision like.

1315
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 2: He has been a huge success story for SC all

1316
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: things considered, So I think they're going to lean on

1317
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: if they were smart, if Lincoln Riley goes against his

1318
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: own trends and accepts the fact that running the ball

1319
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 2: is good when you have a good running game, which

1320
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: he has known to do. I'm going to go with

1321
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: USC to win this game, but in sort of ugly fashion.

1322
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: On the road, I'm on USC minus points. Okay, have fun. Well,

1323
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: I know I'm not betting it, but I'm on, Yeah,

1324
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: I see there. And then that brings us to this game.

1325
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: Three pot thirty CBS, Michigan minus three at Illinois, and

1326
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: that's gone up. It's gone up. It was Michigan minus one.

1327
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: Now it's at Michigan minus three. I don't know how

1328
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: it'll move on game day again. There have been a

1329
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: bunch of lines that have moved considerably since we made

1330
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: this document. On Monday morning, quote, they call him Uncle Jack,

1331
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: the seventh year guy that's done it, seen it, been

1332
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: in the big game, been in all the games. That's

1333
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: from Sharon Moore talking about his new starting quarterback. Now

1334
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: it's not new new, but officially, No, Jack Tuttle.

1335
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 2: I don't think he started a game for Michigan yet,

1336
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: right and starting Alex Argie started the Washington games.

1337
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:28,759
Speaker 1: That's new, new starting quarterback. Sure, I need to point

1338
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: out here, I am contractually obligated to point out here. Yeah,

1339
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: that the ty hilden brandt BS detector is registering at

1340
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: about a ninety eight point six out of a possible

1341
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: one hundred for Sharon Moore. Okay, I understand why the

1342
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: head coach says things like this. I get that you

1343
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: want to instill confidence, you want to rally the troops,

1344
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: you want to get everybody excited, move things forward. I

1345
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: get it. It's a tactic as old as time. But

1346
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: what big games has Jack Tuttle been in? I agree?

1347
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: I mean he's John Tie a big game quarterback because

1348
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: he beat Wisconsin in the COVID year.

1349
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 2: It's a technicality tie. He's been in a lot of

1350
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 2: big games, watching them from the sideline last year for Michigan.

1351
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: You've got to be kidding me. You've got to be

1352
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: kidding me with this. Yeah, say something else. Don't don't

1353
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: pump this guy up like he's the second coming Conrol growing.

1354
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: He's growing he's sort of the mental reps have been quality. Yeah,

1355
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't get like the BS. I'm sorry to say this,

1356
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: but the BS detector is going off big time here.

1357
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: Not just because of this quote, but I think the

1358
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:48,759
Speaker 1: Michigan offensive situation as a whole mm hm. The quarterback

1359
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: situation has been an absolute joke. It has been an

1360
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: absolute joke, and if not for Khall Mullings this season,

1361
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 1: this offense will be a complete train wreck. I I

1362
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: cannot get over the fact that this team won the

1363
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: national championship year ago and this is what they look

1364
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: like now. Yep, and I know there's been turnover. You

1365
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: lose a first round quarterback, you would think having a

1366
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: first round quarterback would make it more likely you'd get

1367
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: another one. So on some level, somebody misfired they didn't

1368
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: go out and use the portal because they didn't think

1369
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: they had to. Maybe there was so much upheaval with

1370
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: Jim Harball leaving and like turnover elsewhere, that it was

1371
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: too late in the game to do that. I don't know.

1372
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: Michigan people can ride and you can yell at me.

1373
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: I don't care, but I am flabbergasted by the point

1374
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 1: that they do not have anybody better than Jack Tuttle

1375
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: and we're halfway into the season. Real fun flatterer gas.

1376
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it, and I

1377
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: don't get this points for it either. I really don't.

1378
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,959
Speaker 1: I don't think Illinois's that good. I don't think Michigan's

1379
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: that good. Frankly, i'd put this as a pick them.

1380
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: I have no idea who's winning this game. I think

1381
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: Illinois is the type of pesky that could win a

1382
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: game like this. But I saw them play against Penn State.

1383
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: I saw them play against a better defense, and they

1384
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: left a lot to be desired. So my hunch is,

1385
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: despite the fact that I don't like taking road teams,

1386
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I've taken all freaking road teams this podcast,

1387
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Michigan. I'm gonna go Michigan. I think

1388
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: they're far and away the better defense, and I think

1389
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: I'll take defense here against an Illinois offense that maybe

1390
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: he's been better under Luke Altmeyer, but definitely left a

1391
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 1: lot to be desired when I saw him play against

1392
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: Penn State.

1393
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 2: So, okay, here is the case for Illinois. It's pretty

1394
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 2: easy that despite some like clear deficiencies, especially on the

1395
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 2: offensive line. They have the better quarterback in them playing

1396
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 2: at home, that's a really nice starting point.

1397
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: Wow, you're right, you are right about that. And they're dogs, yes,

1398
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 1: three point home dog. Now.

1399
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 2: Also, if you're gonna tell the complete Illinois story, they

1400
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 2: give up forty second half points to Purdue last week.

1401
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: New quarterback for Purdue, new team.

1402
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 2: They did give up forty points in the second half,

1403
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: and that was coming off of a bye. As you

1404
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: like to point out, there's nobody really should be looking

1405
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:23,560
Speaker 2: ahead after a buye. No, if you are going to

1406
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 2: take this year's Michigan in a vacuum, they're extraordinarily average.

1407
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 2: They found ways to beat Minnesota, they found a way

1408
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 2: to beat usc at the end. I'm not gonna say

1409
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 2: winning is a for sure skill for Michigan, but they've won.

1410
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: They lost to Washington, They've gone through quarterback issues. I

1411
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 2: think Michigan wins this game. I don't love picking a

1412
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: road team. I don't love picking a road team with

1413
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 2: the clear worst quarterback. I think it's a nice matchup

1414
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: for Michigan.

1415
01:12:55,640 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: It is October. It is octobert for Illinois. You're right,

1416
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: it's not November, which is much more of an occult force.

1417
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna go Michigan here. I think they ugly

1418
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 2: this game up enough and win. I think they're going

1419
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 2: to force a turnover three. I think they're gonna be

1420
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: able to run the ball eventually. I'm gonna go Michigan

1421
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 2: to win this game.

1422
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Twenty one to eighteen, yeah.

1423
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,839
Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's a push, right, I'll go Michigan

1424
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 2: to win this game. Twenty three seventeen, twenty.

1425
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: Three is there? You go? There you go? I go

1426
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: twenty one fifteen or so. That'd be some weird score here.

1427
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: Twenty four to nineteen, someone's going to go for two

1428
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: and not get it. Give me Michigan one other gig?

1429
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: Can I go the second lock here? Please? Not this game,

1430
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: but a different one block of the week. I'm in

1431
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: for a dime. I'm in for a dollar on road favorites.

1432
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: Why not? Yeah? I tell myself every week not to

1433
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: do this, not to put myself out there. Texas A

1434
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 1: and M minus whatever against Mississippi State. That's I have

1435
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: that as well. It is a look ahead spot for

1436
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: A and M with LSU on deck, but coming out

1437
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: of a buy, I think that negates it. Should negate

1438
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: that factor a little bit. I think A and M

1439
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: is headed in a good direction. I like the trajectory

1440
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: of A and M. I got it in my playoff projection,

1441
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: which we did on Tuesday. Go back and listen to

1442
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: that show. So this is a game where if the

1443
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: offense is making strides, if the team is getting better,

1444
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: they should not only hold Mississippi State down, but they

1445
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: should be able to score points and droves.

1446
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: Mississippi State, while frisky last week a little bit on

1447
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 2: offense against Georgia, may have the worst Power Conference defense

1448
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: in America.

1449
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: Case in point. Yeah, let's go to the night games

1450
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: real quick. Let's do it. Welcome to the pain zones

1451
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 1: where we live. It's a pain zone, man, Yes, sir.

1452
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: Seven thirty on Fox Kansas State minus three on the

1453
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 1: road at West Virginia. Seven thirty on NBC Iowa minus

1454
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: five and a half at Michigan State. Need to talk

1455
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: about that line, Dan, We'll talk about it in a second. Yeah,

1456
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: seven thirty FS one UCF on the road at Iowa State.

1457
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: Iowa stay favored by fourteen points, and finally seven to

1458
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 1: forty five sec Network Kentucky. Kentucky now favored by one

1459
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: given the Graham Mertz News on the road in the

1460
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: swamp against the Florida Gators. Give me your thoughts. Any

1461
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: of those games jump out to you in one.

1462
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 2: This was like an easy night window for me, and

1463
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 2: I hate it. I went all favorites here, even though

1464
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: Kansas State coming off a big emotional win on the road,

1465
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 2: stay on the road to play against West Virginia. You

1466
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: beat Kansas State through the air, testing them deep. That's

1467
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: not who West Virginia is. West Virginia I don't feel

1468
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: like is built to win in that manner. So I'm

1469
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: going Kansas State to eventually swallow them up. And the

1470
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: way that Iowa State did a little bit, I have

1471
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: Iowa over Michigan State some with somewhat comfort. I know it's,

1472
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: you know, maybe a letdown spot after scoring forty against Washington.

1473
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: Really nice growth moment for the offense. What am I

1474
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: missing here? Why is this line five and a half? Well,

1475
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: it's at Michigan State at night. I mean that people

1476
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: aren't buying that Iowa can do this consistently. But I

1477
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: think for Iowa maybe that was a proof of concept

1478
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 2: and that there may be more confident heading into I'm

1479
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 2: onst to the back half of the season.

1480
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm on Iowa here in Iowa. Yeah, I'm on Iowa.

1481
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: I don't this scares me as a Vegas knows something

1482
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 1: kind of game, right, it really does. But I can't

1483
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: in good faith go Michigan State. I don't really know

1484
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: what I'd be betting on. I like overall where Michigan

1485
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: State I think is headed, but it's going to take

1486
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: a minute.

1487
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 2: I like Iowa State even double digits, giving those points

1488
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen points against UCF. I think UCF is just

1489
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 2: a below average team right now. Much to my disappointment

1490
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 2: and surprise, I thought this was going to be a

1491
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 2: growth here, even with Ted Roof.

1492
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: I just I like the case at.

1493
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 2: Person element he got bingched. I just I don't think

1494
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 2: they're built to win right now. I don't think they're

1495
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 2: in a winning mindset. And Iowa State will happily beat

1496
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 2: a team like that by seventeen to twenty four. So

1497
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 2: I have Iowa State at home at night there, and

1498
01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 2: I think Kentucky. So Grammertz I said I had all favorites.

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01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 2: I have Kentucky here.

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: Well, Kentucky is favored now, so I think flipped. What's

1501
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: the spread, right, now one. They're favored by one, so

1502
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, it's to pick them.

1503
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: I like Kentucky here, you know, as much as I

1504
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 2: am a believer in DJ Lagway long term throwing into

1505
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 2: this defense in a letdown spot, losing an ot to Tennessee,

1506
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 2: Kentucky lost to a let's not even say good Vandy team.

1507
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: Let's say great Vandy team. Let's let's give them their

1508
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 2: proper flowers for sure. I just think it's a nice

1509
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: matchup and a nice moment for Kentucky. I just don't

1510
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: like DJ Lagway throwing into this defense. I just he's

1511
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 2: not as seasoned obviously as Diego Pavia. I am going

1512
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: Kentucky in a like a sixteen to thirteen type final

1513
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 2: over Florida.

1514
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Florida. Actually, okay, I don't like the

1515
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: Kentucky vibes right now, So I'm going Florida. I'm going

1516
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: Iowa State. I'm gonna go Iowa. I'm gonna go West

1517
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: Virginia home dog, the Yokers home dog of the week.

1518
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: It's the double road thing. The state scares you, the

1519
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: double road thing, and the stat you called out about

1520
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 1: tennancies I think is fair and I saw that too. Yeah,

1521
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: this game comes down to whichever team makes the biggest

1522
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: plays through the air. I don't trust Avery Johnson on

1523
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: the road at night in Morgantown, and I think Eric Green.

1524
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: I think that West Virginia offense could find a way

1525
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 1: to get some big plays through the air. I think

1526
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 1: he's a good game. So I'm gonna go West Virginia

1527
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: at home. I'm not fully selling all my West Virginia

1528
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: stock at this point.

1529
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 2: All I can tell you is Avery Johnson made huge

1530
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 2: play after huge play at altitude, and if he can

1531
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 2: prove it to me that high above sea.

1532
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: Level, he can do it at Morgantown. Two late late

1533
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: games that I want to call out very quickly ten

1534
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: pm on the c dub. It is UNLV now up

1535
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 1: to a seven and a half point favorite against Oregon State.

1536
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to Oregon State with the points. Oh my god,

1537
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 1: you UNLV double lock of the week? Really? Oh yeah,

1538
01:18:54,800 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: block of the week. Tell you something else that might

1539
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: have you unlock it? Okay, Unlas back, No, Suka's not back. Okay.

1540
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 1: Huge look ahead spot for UNLV with a whame next

1541
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: week against Boise State.

1542
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a look ahead spot against Oregon State.

1543
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 2: You think Oregon State's that bad? No, No, I'm saying

1544
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna take Oregon State. Seriously, I don't

1545
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: think they're gonna look past them.

1546
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh I'll take Oregon State.

1547
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 2: I'm taking UNLV. Oregon State is down thirty eight defensive

1548
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: linemen right now. Okay, they're down. They are so thin

1549
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: on defense. They just lost to Nevada.

1550
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you're losing to Nevada, you're likely

1551
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: losing bigger to UNLV. To meair even Corvallis, We're woe

1552
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,520
Speaker 1: UNLV by a couple touchdowns. Ten thirty ESPN. It's TCU

1553
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: at Utah. Utah now a four and a half point favorite.

1554
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: I think they were about seven six, seven and a

1555
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: half point favorite before the cam Rising news. Then the

1556
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: cam Rising News dropped, and now it's down to four

1557
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: and a half point. So surprised me if it went

1558
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: lower before kickoff. Two teams frankly that I don't know

1559
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: what they are at this point. I think I still

1560
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 1: favor Utah because I like the ground assault, like a

1561
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: nice matchup. I like Mackai Bernard here against TCU. I

1562
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: think that's the matchup that makes the most sense to

1563
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: me to lock in on. So I go, I go

1564
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: a Utah minus the points. But late night ESPN game,

1565
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: this one's going to be going on as we're recording.

1566
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: We'll probably have to get to it on Tuesday. Frankly,

1567
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: this one won't be over by the time we get

1568
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: to it. Oh, I'm going Utah comfortably. Yeah, thirteen to

1569
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 1: fourteen points. All right. If you are out there, if

1570
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Speaker 2: you gotta get with the varsity app no brainer.

1585
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't have a window of opportunity this week. By

1586
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: the way, I think this is the weekie cash in

1587
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 1: all the favors you've been doing, all the chores, you've

1588
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: been doing, all the stuff out of the goodness of

1589
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: your heart. I think this is a weekly catch. It

1590
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: didn't try and get in front of the couch because

1591
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: there are good games. If you hadn't gone snake in

1592
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: the toilet Saturday, I would have called it a second

1593
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: screen Saturday. There's two good games in each window that

1594
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: I think you need to pay attention to.

1595
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 2: I think so too. Maybe I would say Friday night,

1596
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 2: but it is that snake in the toilet.

1597
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 1: Yep to that in the toilet was a little wet

1598
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: right with the mix? Yeah, I felt good about it.

1599
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: Add a little wetness to that. Thank you. Yeah.

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01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 2: I guess pay at time, initially to the organ Purdue

1601
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 2: game to see if it's close or something, but otherwise,

1602
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: have a Friday night date night. Really make it, make

1603
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Speaker 2: it a special one for your significant other.

1604
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1623
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 2: Ty real quick favorite drop that big stank you Drummond

1624
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 2: five for me. We got another hat ivy ish week

1625
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 2: ahead of us twelve pm.

1626
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 1: It is Holy Cross Cross Saders at three and four

1627
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: on the road at Harvard at three and one, Dan,

1628
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: who you got.

1629
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with your alma mater here. I'm going Harvard, Harvard.

1630
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: Not my alma mater. You kidding me? They wouldn't let me. Sorry,

1631
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: where near Harvard? I should have finished the Harvard of

1632
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: Central Pa. Thank you? Uh huh. I'm gonna go Cross Saders.

1633
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: Why not? Twelve o'clock Lee High three and two on

1634
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: the road at Yale two and two.

1635
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,799
Speaker 2: We got a nice little bounce back season for Lehigh.

1636
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 2: I think Heel's probably looking ahead and not taking the

1637
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 2: engineer seriously, give me Lee High.

1638
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Mountain Hawks as well. Yeah, okay,

1639
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: well thirty Sacred Heart three and four on the road

1640
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: at Lafayette, Your Lafayette Leopards, Dan, Come on, Oh, a

1641
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: fringe top twenty five team in the FCS. They are

1642
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 1: the top Flowers, the top team in the others receiving

1643
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 1: votes categories. So you win this one against the Hardy's

1644
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: and maybe find your way into the top twenty five.

1645
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: I gotta go, I gotta go. Yet he's here. I'm

1646
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: gonna break my own rule.

1647
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 2: A lot of people saying Sacred Heart, the Harvard of

1648
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 2: Fairfield connecticuts.

1649
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 1: Is that where it's at? You didn't know you looked that.

1650
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: Up seventeen seconds ago. I'm going Lafayette here, and I'm

1651
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 2: going Lafayette enormous of fifty one to nineteen Lafayette one o'clock.

1652
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: It is the battle of the Nellies here Cornell at

1653
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: one and three, Bucknell at three and three, Bucknell playing host.

1654
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: I am gonna go Buckdell.

1655
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 2: I'm also going Bucknell in the Nell Classico.

1656
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: Nell Classical. That's pretty good, right, I like that? Yeah,

1657
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: I do like that one. And let's close things out

1658
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: one pm. Your Georgetown Hoya is away from multi Sport Field,

1659
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: but still at four and two. Yeah, on the road

1660
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: against the Colgate Gators who are at one five, just

1661
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: just where the Gators want them. Homedog of the New

1662
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: York not that's the home snake of the week. Ty

1663
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 1: oh boy. We're getting where money's worth out of this nickname.

1664
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: Twenty three, twenty three to twenty lock it up, all right,

1665
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: who do you have in new Classico?

1666
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: Again?

1667
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: We both took buck Noll. I'm going buck Noll. Yeah,

1668
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: let's let's agree. Ever since the fine people of Williamport,

1669
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: Williamsport yelled at me. I have softened my stance and

1670
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: all things buck Now. I like that. I did not

1671
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 1: like Bucknell when I visited it. I didn't something happened

1672
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: on that trip, on that official visit. I don't want

1673
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of it. On a b

1674
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. It's a big,

1675
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: beautiful campus up on a hill. Oh my god, wasn't

1676
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,679
Speaker 1: what happened wasn't for me? No, No, something gone wrong?

1677
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: Different podcasts that I won't put my name on. Okay,

1678
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, dungeon gone wrong? All right, Dan

1679
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: fun episode Week eight looks like it's going to be

1680
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 1: a banger. We will see and do time if it is,

1681
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: in fact a snake in the toilet Saturday, give me

1682
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: that sound just one more time for you, never asked joy,

1683
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: for that guy over there, my good friend, Dan Rubinstein,

1684
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,799
Speaker 1: for myself, Tye Hilton Brand. Thanks for downloading, for listening,

1685
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Speaker 1: for supporting, for playing along with our madness. Enjoy your

1686
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: college football Week eight. We will talk to you all

1687
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 1: on Sundays. Stay solid, peace,