1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by Draft Kings. We are 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: fresh out of the press conference held by John Harball 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: and Eric da Costa. We're here to break down all 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: the uh, all the nuggets from that press conference, give 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: you our takes on what they said. As always, you know, uh, 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: you kind of read between the lines on some things, 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: or you try to at least um but a lot 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: of interesting things to come out of it, certainly, and 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: and to lead it all off, obviously, the biggest talking 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: point going in was Lamar and his contract and uh, Garrett, 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: what was your your biggest segway from what they said, Well, 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: it's that Larrays want Lamar Jackson as their quarterback this 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: season and for the long haul. They want to get 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: back to the negotiating table. They already are negotiating talking 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Eric to Costa today, talk to Lamar Jackson. I don't 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: know how deep they went into. You know, they didn't 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: reveal any specifics of any negotiations, but they're talking and 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: they want him. They made a clue that they want 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: to work out a long term deal. The hope is 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: to do that for free agency, I mean soon. Um 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: So that is still the kind of top of mind 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: for for the Ravens. The Ravens believe that Lamar wants 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: to be here after talking with him, right, And that's 24 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: the key thing. There's been a lot of speculation out 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: there about how much does Lamar want to be back, 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, is he ready to move on and play 27 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: for another team? And I think it was important that 28 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: they highlighted that their belief in talking in their conversations 29 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: with Lamar is that he wants to be here for 30 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: his whole career, that he he wants to remain a Raven. Yeah, 31 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: that's important. Takes two tango in these negotiations. So Eric 32 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: Costa wants Lamar Jackson here. John Harball made it clear, 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: said two hundred percent, you know, Lamar's our quarterback and 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: they and they also said that Steve Ashatti, the owner, 35 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: obviously wants Lamar to be here as well. So the 36 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: Ravens are committed to trying to work out a long 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: term contract with Lamar. And I think that like that 38 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: answered a big question. I mean, that was the biggest question. 39 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: Do the Ravens believe that they're gonna be able to 40 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: work out a deal with Lamar and have him here 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: this season and beyond and and hearing from them today, 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: sure sounds like it's certainly possible that a long term 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: contract could be reached. Yeah, I don't think that we 44 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, there's really an answer on how likely do 45 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: they think that it is that it's going to be reached. 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: It's very clear on what the intention is that they 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: want to reach it. But Eric Decason, you know, it 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: wasn't shy about saying these negotiations are difficult. You know, 49 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: it's one thing talking to Lamar Jackson the player, but 50 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: you know, when he represents himself and you have to 51 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: have some of these hard conversations, these business conversations, as 52 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: you put it, like those are not those are more difficult. 53 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: They've been a challenge, right, And you talked about how 54 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: you know that Mark Andrews deal got done in a 55 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 1: few days, the ro Kuwan Smith you know, a couple 56 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: of weeks or whatever it was, you know, like and 57 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: half exactly. Ronnie Stanley took longer. Lamar Jackson has taken 58 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: longer already obviously, and like, who knows how that's gonna 59 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: go down Ultimately, I think it's probably going to continue 60 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: to be our discussions, um, but the intention from both 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: sides is right, And when you're trying to reach a 62 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: long term deal, you have to start from that point. 63 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: You have to be optimistic the deal will get done, 64 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: that it can get done, and that you wanted to 65 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: get done. That's you know, we're a year and a 66 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: half into this, so I wouldn't say we're at a 67 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: starting point, but like, as you pick up those negotiations, 68 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: you have to both be on the same page in 69 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: that regard at least, and then you can talk dollars 70 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: and cents. Yeah, and like the other thing too. Support 71 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: reporters are kind of trying to go down the path 72 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: like could you entertain a trade if you're not able 73 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: to work out a deal which franchise tag level would 74 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: you tag him at? Like some of the nuances of 75 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: those things, and and DaCosta was like, I'm not even 76 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: going down that path of talking like a trade. Right, 77 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: obviously very clear that the franchise tag is an option 78 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: as we all know, or certainly right, I mean he 79 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: talked said he's been thinking about it every day, which 80 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: you know what tag they use. And part of the 81 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: reason that they signed Roquan to his long or they're 82 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: happy that they got that long term deal with Roquan 83 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: done before the season ended, is it opened up the 84 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: franchise tag Lamar Jackson. Obviously, if the two sides can't 85 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: work out a deal before in March seven, when you 86 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: have the deadline for tagging guys, Lamar Jackson will get 87 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: tagged with one of those exclusive or non exclusive tags. Um. 88 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: But you know, I got a sense that like they 89 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: want to get Eric would be like, if the deal 90 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: has done a week from now, I would be a 91 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: very happy man. You know. He said that they always 92 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: go down to Florida to see Bhatti's house exactly around 93 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: this time, you know, sometime end of January, early February, 94 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: and they hammer out kind of the off season plan. 95 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: And Eric even joked like, it would be great if 96 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: we went down there. We didn't have to talk about 97 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: with Mark Jackson because the deal is done exactly Like, 98 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, it could be fast, it 99 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: could be fast. That that would be a hope. Um, 100 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: And so we'll see how that plays out. And like, 101 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: you know, he was not entertaining the possibility of like, Okay, 102 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: well if it doesn't work out, maybe we can move on. 103 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: He's like, they're not They're not even going there they're saying, like, 104 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: our hope is to get this deal done, and that's 105 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: our focus. We're not entertaining all these other possibilities of 106 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: trades or anything like that, right exactly. And I think 107 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: that's a you know, there's gonna be tons of speculation 108 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: about that, about what could happen and all that stuff. 109 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: That's what the media business does, right. But Eric the 110 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: Costas isn't gonna sit here and and you know, he 111 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: has a singular focus getting a contract deal done, a 112 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: contract from Mark Jackson, And I think that's where the 113 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: focus should be. You know, until a deal is done, 114 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: there's going to be speculation exactly, Like that's just the 115 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: nature of how this gonna happen. Is he gonna what 116 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: he show up to O t as under the franchise 117 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: tag when you show up to training? About that, it 118 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: was like, what do you do if Lamar pulls out? 119 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: If he gets tagged? They're like, we're gonna We're not 120 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: gonna go down that road right now. Yeah, there's like 121 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: a million possibilities. They're like, which tag does he show up? 122 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: Does he not training camp? All that all that stuff. 123 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: But like as I keep saying, like their hope is 124 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: to get a long term deal done, right, Um, So 125 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean that that obviously, I don't it's not like 126 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: the answers that everybody. You know, it wasn't gonna be 127 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: this aha moment necessarily for everybody. But I think that 128 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: there was just a lot of talk about how the 129 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: two sides maybe felt about each other after the way 130 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: this season ended, right with him not being on the 131 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: shelf and injured, and and it was interesting that they said, 132 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, they basically put the rest the speculation that Lamar, 133 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: in their belief was was not playing because of the contract. 134 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: They were just like, he's injured. You know, Eric causes 135 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: like I go down in the training room all the 136 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: time he was injured. It's it's stunk for all parties, right, 137 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: And like he kind of puts the rest that there 138 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: was any kind of bad feelings about that. Yeah, Like 139 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: that was again when you're in the sec. I've turned 140 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: on ESPN NFL Network over the past you know, a 141 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: few weeks, and there's lots of especially this week, lots 142 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: of speculation about whether this relationship is salvageable or whether 143 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: they're the parting of ways, is what's going to happen? 144 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: And in listening to them, like the relationship sounds far 145 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: more than salvageable. You know. It's like they're talking today 146 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: and they talked about how hard Lamar works to try 147 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: to get back and they feel like, um again, they 148 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: want him or he wants to be here, and like 149 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: this whole thing has been built around him, you know, 150 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: on offense and like it's all been kind of set 151 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: up with that him mine. So I think that that 152 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: like in terms of like your point about like the 153 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: yaha moment, Like you know, I think a lot of 154 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: people were wondering, like would the Ravens come out and 155 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: be like, you know, we'll see you know, we're not 156 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: really sure I was gonna play. You know, they were 157 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: like clearly on one side, Like they were very clearly 158 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: on one side of this. And you've seen sometimes with 159 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: other teams, like you know, gms or coaches kind of 160 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: like trying to split the difference or is is the 161 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: moment you say, oh, we'll listen to offers like okay, 162 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, like the guys on the block, 163 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: the guys on the block, you know, like and the 164 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: Ravens didn't say that, Like the Ravens said like we 165 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: want to get this deal done, so like they didn't 166 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: even go down that path of saying like, well, it 167 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: may not work out. They're very clearly trying to have 168 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson here in Baltimore for a very long time. 169 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: And and honestly, you know, I just feel like you 170 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: kind of saw like Eric to cosas heart in a way, 171 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: like you know, he multiple times was like, I'll be 172 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: the happiest man when we have this deal done. You know, 173 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: Like I think you could almost kind of sense that, 174 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: like I was saying, it's been difficult. He too, I 175 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: don't know anything about that because I've never been on 176 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: a peloton in my life. I can I can. I 177 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: basically don't stop sweating for about ninety minutes once I'm 178 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: off of a peloton, so you can, I can vouch 179 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: for him. Okay, but but I do think that, like 180 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: it's been hard, right when you have to have these 181 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: hard conversations with your franchise quarterback on a massive deal, 182 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: and like, you know, if the two sides aren't aren't 183 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: on the same page necessarily financially from a financial perspective, 184 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: you gotta make your cases why you're not you're not right, Like, well, 185 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: I don't see it that way because of whatever. And 186 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: that's hard when you're doing it to somebody's face. And 187 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: like you saw a little bit of that, and you 188 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: also saw him be real. I think about his his 189 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: desire to have Lamar here and how much he wants 190 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: to get this deal done. I felt that. Yeah, I'm 191 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: with you. I think that, you know, I think that 192 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: this put to rest any notion that the Ravens want 193 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: to move on from lamarch acract. I think that's well said. Yeah, yeah, alright. 194 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: So the other big talking point, obviously, the big news 195 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: today was that Greg Roman is leaving to pursue other opportunities, 196 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: So the Ravens will be looking for a new offensive 197 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: coordinator this offseason. Uh. You know, John Harball very effusive 198 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: in in what Grey has done for this franchise, for 199 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: the team, for this offense, and and quite frankly, you know, 200 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: everybody around listeners and Twitter followers, my Twitter followers know 201 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: that I've stuck up for Greg a lot, right, and 202 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: like I have said that he has you know, I've 203 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: seen a lot of Baltimore Ravens offense over the years. 204 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: I've been a fan of the Ravens my whole life, 205 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: right since they came to Baltimore. I've seen some bad 206 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: offenses over the years, and this offense, comparatively speaking, has 207 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: been awesome. En was awesome right, tops in the league 208 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: and scoring second in yards, record setting most rushing yards 209 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: ever by its even a single season, Lamar Jackson breaks records, right, 210 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: and so like, yes, it hasn't been the twenty nineteen levels, 211 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: which were historic literally and the past couple of years 212 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: it's it's dropped off. But like I've I've always said, 213 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: I think Gregor Rhuman designed offense that accentuated Lamar Jackson 214 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: really well put. He was the center of it, and 215 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: it put him in good positions to succeed, and he 216 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: had a lot of success. So did the Ravens. They 217 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: had a lot of success together. The past couple of years, 218 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: in part because of injuries and all that stuff, they 219 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: have not had as much success. And I think the 220 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: two sides decided it was time for a change. It 221 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: just had reached that point it was time for a change, 222 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: and and I certainly understand that decision. Um I also 223 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: will say, like what's next, right, Like it's it's easy 224 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: for fans out there who have been clamoring for this 225 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: day what's next? You know, the green is isn't always greener. 226 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: The Ravens certainly hope, so I hope, so everybody hopes so. 227 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: But like now we're onto the Okay, who's it gonna be? 228 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: And you start to look at like what was you know, 229 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: it was like maybe it was it so bad? You 230 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Um, So it was just interesting 231 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: to hear John Harball's thoughts on what's next for the 232 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: Ravens offense. Yeah, I mean I think that, Um, you know, 233 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: I felt like as a season went went along that 234 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: it seemed like the parting of ways this offseason could 235 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: take place. Um, and you know, Greg, he's an accomplished 236 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: offensive play caller and designer and he's gonna have opportunities 237 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: and like he's been in this league for a long 238 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: time and been had some really good offenses, had a 239 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: lot of success, gone to Super Bowl with San Francisco. 240 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: You know, Lamar was unioned SEVP here, so like a 241 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: lot of success. And the rub here is that like 242 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: people will say, well it was because of Lamar Jackson, 243 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: because he had Lamar Jackson. That's why they had so 244 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: much success. And exactly they go hand in hand, right, 245 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: So like to like, I just feel like there's always 246 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: been like these camps, uh and and people I don't know, 247 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 1: they try to like part and parcel it, you know, 248 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: and say who deserves the amount of credit. Greg designed 249 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: the offense and helped Lamar and Lamar are as. Lamar 250 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: he's awesome. He's one of the best players in the NFL. 251 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: So that obviously made the offense a lot better. They 252 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: worked together. Yeah, totally, totally. And so in terms of 253 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: what it looks like, I think that's the question. And 254 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: and and John Harball basically said, like, the identity of 255 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: the offense isn't necessarily changing. But to me, which my 256 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: read of that, what's your read that? Well? I I 257 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: think that, like what is it? But then he said, like, 258 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: but the scheme there could be some tweaks, there could 259 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: be some alterations. So like, no, I do not think 260 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: that the Ravens are just gonna find when Gary Kubiak 261 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: left after Mark Trustman came in and basically ran the 262 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: Gaber Gary Kubiak offense, that was the intent. I don't 263 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the case. I don't think they're 264 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: gonna be looking for somebody else to come in and 265 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: run the Greg Roman offense. If that was the case, 266 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: you just would have kept Greg Roman and he would 267 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: have stayed here. You know what they said, like this 268 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: is where we want to be. I think they want 269 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: components of the Gregman office. Yes, I think that, like 270 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: and he also talked about that, like this running game 271 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: has been historic, So like I think that they want 272 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: elements of that run game. You don't want to like 273 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: just shift to this like spread pass, heavy, all fense 274 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you can't run the ball. 275 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: You want to be able to continue to run the 276 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: ball the way that you have with Greg. I mean 277 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: certainly that's the ideal. That is they've been running this 278 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: this you know revolution are as. It's been many times 279 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: dubbed you know running attack with everybody is a potential pooler. 280 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: They run gap zone stuff, They run everything in the 281 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: under the sun, right, and you never know what's coming in. 282 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: And obviously when you have such a dynamic you know 283 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: quarterback who can run, that adds another blocker, right, And 284 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: what they've done in terms of of designing this offense 285 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: with a running quarterback has also been unique, right, And 286 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: so uh, they want to continue that. They feel like 287 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: this offensive line has run that these running backs, these coaches, 288 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: we've all learned from what Greg has done here from 289 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: a run scheme standpoint, we want to carry that forward. 290 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: But also, and what I took from the we want 291 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: to have the same identity is we want to be 292 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: a physical offense. It's not just being a physical, smash 293 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: mouth defense. The Ravens have always pride themselves. And you 294 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: know when he talks about that's what the city is about, 295 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: that's what all that. That's what I take. It's gritty, 296 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: it's physical, it's we want to dominate you. Does any 297 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: coach might say we want to finesse, Well, yeah, but 298 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: some teams are right, like like the Ravens aren't gonna 299 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: go to us spread for wide offense primarily. I just 300 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: don't expect that. I think there's gonna still be heavy formation, 301 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: heavy packages. They're going to run the ball. I think 302 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: that they certainly could evolve to have different past zone 303 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: schemes and there will be some different run stuff too. 304 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: But like they will evolve, it won't be exactly the 305 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: same offense. Maybe it will become more balanced and more 306 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: past heavy. I think that's probably the direction most likely, um, 307 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: But but I think it's roots will be in this 308 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: physical kind of we're still gonna place a high INSTIs 309 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: on running the ball. I think that if I were 310 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: to guess how it plays out, I think that there 311 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: will be fewer like multiple tight end too tight end 312 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: plus fullback sets, you know, and like you'll favor the 313 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: wide receivers a bit more than they have chance, which 314 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: goes to another point which we'll talk about that you know, 315 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: they're going to remake the receiver room and they want 316 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: to clearly get better in that area, and so then 317 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: you're going to feature those guys more. So. I think 318 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: that like those are some of like the tweaks that 319 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: you're going to see. But no, I do not expect 320 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: the new offensive coordinator to come in and just run 321 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: the exact same offense that the Ravens had in place. 322 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: There's there's gonna be an evolution, and I think that 323 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: like the perfect world here is like, all right, keep 324 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: the running game as good as it was and just 325 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: make the passing game better. That's the that's the goal. 326 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,239 Speaker 1: That's the the efect world scenario, which is hard to accomplish. 327 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: Like you know, maybe the running game gets a little 328 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: bit worse, but the passing game gets significantly better. I 329 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: think that, Like that's how it'll be really interesting too. 330 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: Like the same thing is the roster makeup, right, like 331 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: you know what you're kind of segueing into the wide 332 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: receiver room makeover that they talked about well before we 333 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: before we get there. Just in terms of the guys 334 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: that that they like, it will be just really interesting 335 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: to see who they interview, internal and external. So you know, 336 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: like te Martin could potentially be a candidate, you know, 337 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: an internal candidate who's done it at the college level. 338 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just throwing out a name. I don't 339 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: know if he's gonna get an interview or not. Um. 340 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: And then like in terms of external to the Ravens 341 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: looked at the guys who have done it at the 342 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: NFL level byra left, which was fired. You know, is 343 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: he Frank Reich has uh you know, looking for offense 344 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: and offensive corners. You know, so Frank Rereich obviously he 345 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: had success as at offensive coach, then went on to 346 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: become a head coach. Do they go to the college 347 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: ranks like they did with Mike McDonald coming from Michigan 348 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: last year? Kind of yeah, I mean he was he 349 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: was both he was kind of both. Um do they 350 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: get you know, Like I'm just really curious to see 351 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: which direction they go there, Like is it a name 352 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: that like, you know, okay, is this college had this 353 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: college coordinator from whatever? I'm pick a random school, this 354 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: young hot shot, right, I think it's I think that's 355 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: a very interesting thing. Yeah, it would be very interesting 356 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: to see who they bring in. And I expect it 357 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: they'll casting pretty wide net. Like John Harball likes to 358 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: have a lot of these conversations. Time is of the essence. 359 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: I think John Harball is gonna be working a lot 360 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: of hours here as he's as he always does. Um. 361 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: But you know, when you have a lot of teams 362 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: that are highering offensive coordinators, you gotta move fast if 363 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: you if you're pursuing one of those names that's getting 364 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: multiple interviews, right and so um. But I think also 365 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: at the same time, John does a good job of 366 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: casting a wide net and getting a lot of different 367 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: ideas and hearing from a lot of different people, and 368 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: that sparks different ideas and thoughts and and all that 369 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And I just I think John does 370 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: a great job with his coaching search process. I've always 371 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: been impressed by the way he's done that. I also 372 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: think to like having his brother in the college game, 373 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: like gives you an even more insight into like the 374 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: college sure coaches who are out there, and you know 375 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: you have some perspective there as well. Right back to 376 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: the what I was gonna about to say with the 377 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: vision of the offense is like, right now, the interesting 378 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: dynamic here is you look at the way the roster 379 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: is constructed now, and yes they want to upgrade at 380 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver, but you look at it, the offensive line 381 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: is really a strength. You know, they said, the whole 382 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: offensive line or most of it. Basically, maybe Ben Powers 383 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: won't be here next year, but everybody else will be. 384 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: The tight ends pretty much the same, right, Josh Oliver 385 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: is a free agent, but everybody else is gonna be here. 386 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: The running backs all back, right, So this team from 387 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: a roster constructions, uh standpoint, is suited to run the 388 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: ball really well. And you have in Lamar back your 389 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: your best runner maybe right like you, and you're basically 390 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: gonna kind of start fresh, not totally at wide receiver, 391 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: but going to change that whole room over. So I 392 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: have a hard time believing that in you want to 393 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: go in and saying we're gonna make the wide receivers 394 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: the focal point of the offense. And you're totally making 395 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: that room over right. So like to me, you know, 396 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: from a schematic standpoint, like you also kind of build 397 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: around your roster, you know what I mean, Like you 398 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: you make your offense to your your shrinks. If the 399 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: Ravens add like some big receivers that they trade for 400 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: Hopkins or add Up or whoever, you can very much 401 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: change things. I just don't think, like you know, we 402 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: don't have funny money here or this sound. There's only 403 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: so much you can do at wide receiver. Eric's cost 404 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: actually took a question about basically, would you be willing 405 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: to trade a first round pick for a big time 406 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver like we've seen the Eagles two in years past, 407 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: Like we saw you know, Tyreek Hill go to Dolphins. 408 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: We saw a J. Brown go the Eagles. What other 409 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: examples of my missing year? What's his name to the Raiders? 410 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: Davante Adams to the Raiders, Stefan Diggs, you know a 411 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: few years back to the Bills. Are you willing to 412 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: do that? Eric basically isn't gonna rule out anything but 413 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: basically said no, that we're not going to mortgage our 414 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: future two or three years from now to go all 415 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: in and do that. But he basically said, no, are 416 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: you willing to because I know you're a big proponent 417 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: of that. Well, I I think that, yeah, I think 418 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: that he said that's unlikely. I mean, I don't think 419 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: he's said there's also different levels of those trades, Like 420 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs did not go for the same as Tyreek Hill. Sure, 421 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: in recent years it's been like at least one first 422 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: round pick and a big contract. Yeah, and you know 423 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: gets like you know those guys like they make like 424 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: forty million dollars a year. So like that's different. And 425 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: so we're talking about paying Lamar Jackson and now also 426 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: we just paid a ro Quan and now you're also 427 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: paying a wide receiver forty million year, right and so 428 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: who but that that's like the top top end of 429 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: the So I mean that's what he was talking about, basically, 430 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: Like he that is just not the Ravens flosophy. Like 431 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: we can all talk about that, and we can all 432 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: talk about how much we want that and we want 433 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. This team did that and they won 434 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: the super Bowl and blah blah blah blah and all that. 435 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: Ravens ain't gonna do it. That's not how they That's 436 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: not how they build their team where they have five 437 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: to eight superstars and the rest are you know, undrafted rookies. 438 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: That's not how they believe. They want to be in 439 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: the dance. And then if you don't win it all, 440 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: now you're in salary cap hell and you stink for 441 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: two or three years, right, and you're in a rebuild. 442 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: That's not what the Ravens want. They are a team 443 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: that always believes and we want to be in the 444 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: picture of the playoff fixture every single year, make the 445 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: dance and you never know what happens. They want to 446 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: be in contention every single year. And they're not willing 447 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: to set go sell out for a chance at one year. 448 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: You're just not gonna do it. So but but will 449 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: the receivers. I think what I'm trying to say is 450 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: if the Ravens make some big investments, maybe they draft, 451 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: maybe they draft a first and second round receive. I'm 452 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: just making things. They don't have a sticking around pick. 453 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: But sure they could, they could, they could, they could 454 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: get in a second round pick could get one back, 455 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: and they draft the first and second pick. If they 456 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: if they make big investments at receiver, will they want 457 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: to feature those guys more. I think the potential for that. 458 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be an offense that prefers 459 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: to throw the ball forty times a game, but I 460 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: think the pendulum could swing a little bit more in 461 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: that direction. Agree with you. I think it will swing 462 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. I just don't think it's gonna swing 463 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: like wildly. I don't think the Ravens offense is gonna 464 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: look crazy different from the way it's looked. I think 465 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna primarily be, uh, your bread and butter is 466 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: gonna be the run game, and I think they will 467 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: do more and hope to evolve and improve in the 468 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: passing attack. The other thing I'll say on the run 469 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: game is I think that there were the quarterback the design. 470 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Quarterback running game will be a much smaller piece of 471 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: this offense moving forward. That's my guess. How much I 472 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: agree it will be smaller. I just think that, like 473 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the Mars had injuries the last two years. Um, 474 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: and if you know, you want to keep that guy healthy, um, 475 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: you want to keep your coording healthy. Now, he didn't 476 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: get injured on designed No he didn't, he didn't. But 477 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: the more hits you take, the more risk your you're 478 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: you're sure. I just I think that that will probably 479 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: become a smaller piece of this offense with Lamar moving forward, 480 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: I would probably agree with you, Um, alright, moving one. 481 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: That was a long tangent here. UM. I do think 482 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: that it was clear that they know that, you know, 483 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: Eric Cospace said we were under water. We were taking 484 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: on water I think was his term for at the 485 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver group. Like they traded Marquis, they didn't really 486 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: replace some baitment gotten injured. Do you really got injured 487 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: at the late end of the year. Everybody knows it 488 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: was a thin unit and they know that there's to 489 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: be turnover at that spot. And I do expect certainly 490 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna draft one. If not to, I think they 491 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: will look at you know, they're not going to sign 492 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: the biggest name on the free agent market, but I 493 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: think they will be pursue free asient wide receivers. Um. 494 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: I expect that there will be a fair amount of 495 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: turnover in that room. Yeah, I mean I think that 496 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: like Bateman and Duvernet will be back and then we'll 497 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: see what happens. You know, I think that, like, you know, 498 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: it's not like this is like any revolutionary thought here, 499 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: but the receiver group wasn't good enough this year and 500 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: they need to get better. So like as we're talking 501 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: about like involving more death, they need they need a 502 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: top end guy. But it's not just death. I mean, 503 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: I think it's really at the top, at the top 504 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: end end deaths all across the board, right, and and 505 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: the Ravens saw you know, now the good news with 506 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: Rashan Bateman is close to running. You know. Yeah, that 507 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: actually was like a little like minor thing that like 508 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: was mentioned in there that I was like, oh, like 509 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: that's that's a big deal, right basically now they so 510 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: they are they believe that Rashan Bateman will be a 511 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: big part. It sounds like a big part of the 512 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: offense from whatever starting week one. They didn't say that, 513 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: but it's just you know whatever, like the fact that 514 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: he's about to run now says good things about his 515 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: availability for mini camp and training camping and all that stuff. Now, 516 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: with that said, like you don't want to get ahead 517 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: of yourself and put two inny eggs in one basket 518 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: and and whatever. Like they've seen that players coming back 519 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: from season ending injuries that can take some time. But 520 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: the fact that he's already ahead of time, which is 521 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: part of the reason why they got the surgery when 522 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: they did, sets him up for a better chance for 523 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: success next year. And I expect Rash Bateman to have 524 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: a big year next year. But they also need to 525 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: add more on top of that, because you don't want 526 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: to just once again like they kind of went into 527 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: this season just putting all your bags eggs in the 528 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: Bateman basket. I don't think they're gonna do that again exactly. Alright, 529 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: other notable decision terms in terms of free agents and 530 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: other roster decisions. Before we get into that, sake a 531 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: quick break, and then we'll come back and we'll dive 532 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: into all that way to come off all right, So 533 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: I know you're ready to dive into this other stuff. Yes, 534 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: come on the paper ready the Draft Kings get You 535 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: also need to know the sports landscape is always changing. 536 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: This week's no different. 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Talking about staying under the salary cap. 547 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: Salary cat decisions here for Eric the costas big decisions 548 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: on that front. Perfect um. Alright, So Ben Powers uh 549 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: one of the Ravens bigger uh, other than Lamar Jackson 550 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: pending unrestricted free agents. Sounded like basically the Ravens would 551 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: love the Ravens would love to have Ben Powers back. 552 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 1: He was They called him one of the best improved 553 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: players this year, played at a really high level, but 554 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: they expect him to get a lot of actual Basically, 555 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: it sounds like he's priced this way out of Baltwire 556 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: is what it sounded like. And they loved him back, 557 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: but they probably and and like listening to Ben this 558 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: week too in the locker room, like he's out of that. 559 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: That's what it sounded like to like, he kind of 560 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: seemed like he was saying his farewells. Now, there's been 561 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: times where it seems like a guy's gonna end up 562 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: getting a bigger contract elsewhere where it's potential and sometimes 563 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: end up back, you know, but I think that and 564 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: I think that it's uh just a sign note. Like 565 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: Eric seemed to have like a lot of pride in 566 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: talking about like Ben Powers and his development, and it 567 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: was awesome to see that, you know, Eric or Ben 568 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: Powers was the mo Gaba pick And if you haven't 569 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: listened to the podcast with Ben, like he talked about 570 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: that and how much it means to him and to 571 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: have that like pick pan out and be somebody that 572 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: potentially could get a massive contract. I think that like 573 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: Eric and the Ravens take a lot of pride in that, Yeah, 574 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: for sure, And they'll take a lot of pride in 575 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: that compensory pick that they would get back if they 576 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: didn't sign that MESSI contract. Uh. Chuck Clark is another 577 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: you know decision looming. Um. I can't remember his cap number. 578 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: I think it was six or six million dollars next year, 579 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens basically have to make a decision. 580 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: You know, Chuck is a very valuable player, highly respected, 581 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: very good player. Uh you know, but they drafted Kyle 582 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: Hamilton's last year, fourteenth overall pick. Chuck basically won the job, 583 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: you know, he kind of staved off the rookie right 584 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: the rookie first round pick, and held that job. And 585 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens found a really great niche for Kyle Hamilton's 586 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: playing in the slot, and it really worked out well. 587 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: And the three safety rotation kind of not really a rotation. 588 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Chuck played every down, but the three safety 589 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: defense worked out. It was a great The question is 590 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: did the Ravens continue move forward with that and keep 591 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: Chuck and keep Kyle Hamilton's kind of that Swiss Army 592 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: knife slot defender, or is it time for Kyle Hamilton's 593 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: to kind of move into that spot that was manned 594 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: by or has been manned by Chuck Clark. You know, 595 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: the dollars and cents are probably part of that equation. 596 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: I think Chuck would like to stay in Baltimore. The 597 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: Ravens really respect him. You know, Eric Costa talked all 598 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: about that, didn't really get any new perspective on that. 599 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: That just but that's the situation. Yeah, decisions got made, 600 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: but did not give any like indication I don't think 601 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: as to which way he's leaning Patrick Queen the fifth 602 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: year option. Uh, you know, Eric cost basically said I'm 603 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: not ready to make a definitive statement right now about 604 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: whether we will pick up that fifth year option. That 605 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: decision needs to be made this offseason. Um, but you know, 606 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: I would probably say it's likely, but he didn't say absolutely, yes, 607 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna pick that up. And at times he has 608 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: said that, you know, like with some you know, some 609 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: other guys, it's like, yes, we're going to pick up 610 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: that option, you know, definitively trying to remember which guys 611 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: that I mean, well, yeah, you know, like, um, that 612 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: was an obvious one. Um and so like could could 613 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: they who could they try not to? I don't know, 614 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: could he get an extension that would I don't know 615 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: how that plays out, but like, um, and maybe they 616 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: just ultimately end up picking that option up and you know, 617 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: whatever the deadline is. Right, they talked about how much 618 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: they thought how well they thought Patrick Queen played, and um, yeah, 619 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: that they thought he took a big step forward this year. Um. 620 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: And the prospect of having he and Roquan Smith in 621 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore for the next two seasons sounds pretty great. Yeah, 622 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: I think that like keeping those two guys together, Like 623 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: we saw how good they can be, Like they in 624 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: the Eric and Jombo said like they they feel like 625 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: those guys are like the best one to punch at 626 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 1: for young inside linebackers in the game. So like, if 627 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: you can keep that duo together, that is a very 628 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: good thing. Marcus Peters is another question mark. He his 629 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: contract takes will expire. He's a pending on restricted free agent. Um, 630 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, came back from the injury. Uh played well. 631 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: You know, there's some some spots in key moments where 632 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: he gave up some big plays. But you know, overall, 633 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: what MP brings to this team is very valuable as 634 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: a leader. The swagger that he plays with, the mentorship 635 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: that he gives young players, the way he studies the game, 636 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: all that stuff. They love. You know, Eric Costa called 637 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: him one of his were players. You know, he traded 638 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: for him and signed him to a contract extension before 639 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: you know that same year. It's clear how Eric Kasta 640 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: felt about Marcus Peterson still feels about him now, Whether 641 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: they I think can come to a dollar agreement, you know, 642 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: a contract that would work for both sides. Reins be seen. 643 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: Eric didn't really give any indicators on that. You know, 644 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: he indicated how much he how much he likes and 645 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: respects Marcus, but not really a definitive yes, we expect, 646 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, and and one Marcus back. He did say 647 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: two things on that front that I don't think you're 648 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: necessarily a sign that Marcus Peters is not coming back, 649 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: but he you know, he said, they do like the 650 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: young corners they have. Pepe Williams, you know, played a 651 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: little bit this year, Jayleen Armor Davis didn't really play 652 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: much at all. And the Stevens he's he's very highly 653 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: of Brandon Stephens. So they liked those young guys and 654 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: also could certainly add another cornerback or multiple And they 655 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: talked about that in the draft, like they just how 656 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: many times we saw it this year, like you need 657 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: a ton of good corners. They get hurt. It's such 658 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: an important position if you're down couple of corners, like 659 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: you're in dire straits. That was the Raven situation. So 660 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: like you need to have a stable of corners. So 661 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: they're going to add some guys there and maybe they 662 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: end up bringing back Marcus Peters um. But like, regardless, 663 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: I think of what happens there, like there's gonna be 664 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: more corners that are added to this team, young corners. 665 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: It wouldn't It would not surprise me if Marcus was 666 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: one of those guys that is in no rush to 667 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: really sign a contract like that, he wouldn't signed the 668 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: first day of free agency. Yeah, I mean just Houston 669 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: wasn't very Definitely that was very very very would be 670 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: like that. But uh, that path wouldn't surprise me. For 671 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: Marcus at this point in his career. You know, he 672 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: was pretty open and talking in the story this year 673 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: that you know there was he was facing his football 674 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: mortality and you know what's next for him, and he 675 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: had him self doubt coming off the knee and it 676 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: wasn't exactly sure of himself and and all that, you know, 677 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: so I just wonder what could happen there. I think 678 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: certainly the respect between both sides. Marcus really loved being 679 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: a Raven, they really loved having him. I think that 680 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: door is open, it's not closed, certainly. It was my 681 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: takeaway from this, and uh, you know, it's always talking 682 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: about reading the tea leaves. Marcus never talks to the media, 683 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: so it's not like you're getting anything him. You know, 684 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: they did that story in The Ringer mid season, but 685 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: like it's not like he held held court in a 686 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: postseason locker rooms. Grom, No, he did not. Um the 687 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: conversation with Clais Campbell and Justin Houston two guys. Justin 688 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: Houston said he's not retiring, would be open to a return. 689 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: Claris Campbell a little bit more unknown about whether he's 690 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: gonna retire. He's gonna mold that over. But um, you 691 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: know he's under contract for another year at a pretty 692 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: high cap number. I want to say it was nine million. Um, 693 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: I don't have all the numbers in front of me, 694 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: but you know, the Ravens kind of have to make 695 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: a decision there whether he would be a cap casually, 696 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: whether they can work out an extension that would lower 697 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: his cap number or what, or do they just move 698 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: on to some of these younger defensive alignement that they have. 699 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: Um and then Justin Houston, you know, could he guy 700 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: lead the team at nine and a half sacks this year? 701 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: Is there a number that they can both come to 702 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: where they feel comfortable or is it time to turn 703 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: the page to the young pass rushers away. You know, 704 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: the air has spoke very highly about David Jabo and 705 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: you know what he saw from him this year as 706 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: a person and a player, and really I think it's 707 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: still very hopeful and encouraged by what his potential is. Um, 708 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: So it remains to be seen there. And he said 709 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: he had conversations with both of those guys, but didn't 710 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: really shoot any light on what was said in those conversations. Yeah, 711 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: we have a lot more to say if we were 712 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,959 Speaker 1: flying on the wall in this in that room. Yeah, well, 713 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of interesting conversations. Clearly. Eric said 714 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: that after the season he met with about twenty players. Um, 715 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: and you know Calais and Justin Houston are two of them. 716 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: Of course, Lamar Jackson being the other one. Would have 717 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: been very interesting to hear just the conversation that they had. 718 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: But um, you know, not the fly on the wall. 719 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: You know, you don't have Eric Cossa's office bucked. That 720 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: is correct. Um. And then lastly, I thought one of 721 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: the other takeaways was just the injury front. Um, you 722 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: know said there's only one guy who's having an off 723 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: that they know of as of right now at least 724 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: who's having an all season procedure. Um did not reveal 725 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: who player is, but basically that they're going into this 726 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: upcoming off season and in a whole lot better shape 727 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: from a health standpoint than they were last year, and 728 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: felt like they the changes that they made in terms 729 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: of injury prevention and and all that kind of stuff. 730 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: They were happy with these changes and felt like they 731 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: were in a pretty good position injury wise this year. Um, 732 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, there's always gonna be stuff that pops up 733 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: that happens, but um, they felt like it worked and 734 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: like and John made the point that like at the 735 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: end of the season, they were like their healthiest and 736 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: most of the injury issues that they really felt, especially 737 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: the key players, were actually injuries from last year that 738 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: were just lingering, and they were being cautious and judicial 739 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: judicious within their return. You got it there, um, And 740 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: and so like those guys Gus Edwards, J K. Dobbins, 741 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters, Ronnie Stanley, like key players, coming back took 742 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: them a little while, but then like by the end 743 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: of the season, and this is like one of the 744 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: reasons that like the lost stung so much, like it 745 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: felt like things were really kind of coming it was 746 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: just one last it was Lamar, Can we get him back? 747 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: That was the thing too, that like he didn't say 748 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: this exactly, but like John Hardball was asked, would Lamar 749 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: have been an option in the playoffs if you kept playing? 750 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: He didn't specifically say like, oh, yeah, he would have 751 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: been ready this week. That would have like been sawt 752 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: on the mound. But like he said, he would have 753 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: been an option at some point. But it's like what 754 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: could have been? What could have been? Yeah, Well, big 755 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: picture takeaway, I think they feel very confident about where 756 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: this team is heading. And Eric Cossa said he feels, 757 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, very very close to building a championship team 758 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: is this quote. And so they feel like, I think 759 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: health wise, like we're talking about just who they have 760 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: on the roster right now, you know, of the offense 761 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: is back as John Hardball, I think I think that 762 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: was the number he gave is going to change and 763 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: that's really mostly in one room, right And so like 764 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: they feel like they have the nucleus of the offense, 765 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: they have an opportunity now hiring a new office coordinated 766 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: to getting the fusion of new ideas and kind of 767 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: maybe taking some people by surprise this year and kind 768 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: of like they didn't a nineteen when Greg Rahman came 769 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: on and they retooled this whole offense and boom, it 770 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: was like it just caught fire. Maybe they have that 771 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: same opportunity to do that with a new OC and 772 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: that takes this offense over the top. You know, it 773 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: remains to be seen, but I think big picture a 774 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: takeaway and we all know the defense really isn't changing 775 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: very much at all towards next year. Justin Houston, Clays 776 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: Campbell and Marcus Spears of the guys to watch the veterans, 777 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: um but and Chuck Clark, but like they are feel 778 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: good about the pieces they have, the health that they 779 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: are in going in the next offseason and feel like 780 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: they will that they're very close. And we saw that 781 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: that gen Arble said, we felt like we were playing 782 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: really good football, championship level football. You know, I'd take 783 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: my chances against the Bengals again tomorrow. Basically, we felt 784 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: like we were ascending going into the playoffs and it 785 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: just one play, right, But they feel like next year, 786 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: let's go get it one play and the absence of 787 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: one key player exactly, you know, was was pivotal. So 788 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: it was it was I thought, you know, like my 789 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: other big picture takeaway is like I just didn't feel like, 790 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, the season obviously most seasons and on a 791 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: disappointing note, you know, only one team is happy. But 792 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: like I thought that this press conference like put a 793 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: lot of people at ease to some extent where it's 794 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: just like there's all this uncertainty about Lamar and the 795 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: quarterback and what's going to happen and all this stuff. 796 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 1: There was a ton of stuff swirling, all this stuff swirling, 797 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 1: and I thought that this was kind of like everyone 798 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: take a deep breath, like we're a good team. We 799 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: want Lamar's our quarterback. He wants to be here, and 800 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: like we're gonna be okay, which is generally what happens 801 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: when you have a good franchise and they come out 802 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: and like speak to the people, you know, two fans 803 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: and media, like they're just you just see like, oh, 804 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: this is a good franchise. Like their head in the 805 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: right direction. Yes, I like these people. Yeah, you know 806 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I thought it was good. I 807 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: thought I thought it was very good too. So anyway, 808 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: thank you for listening. As always, you can reach us 809 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. There 810 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: will be a lot more news coming. The off season 811 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: is just getting geared up, so a lot to talk 812 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: about and make sure you keep it locked right here