1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: So I think it was this Gunner got a concussion 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: and then Tracy with a hip for injury. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: Wise on the hit with Jackson, just I know talked 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: about it, but what can you do to impress upon him, 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: you know, the value of his own health. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Listen, Jackson's an aggressive football player. You know, he's on 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: the sideline trying to get himself out of bounce, takes 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: a hit, he bounced up. He's a tough kid. Do 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: you like the decision to compete for that extra yard 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: or two or whatever, or do you prefer to see 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: him step out of bounds? Yeah, I mean, obviously don't 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: want him take any hits that are unnecessary, but he 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: was working his way out of bounce. 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 3: Might be sorry you go, Jordan, I don't think he 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: did overall him. 16 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, Jackson did did a nice job. He slid 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: a couple of times for us, you know, did everything 18 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: we asked him to do. 19 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: Mike, why was Abdulah not out there the first couple 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: of series? 21 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: That was a coach's decision, my decision. Why'd you make 22 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: that decision? Just based on how we how we went 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: during the week, Just that was that was a decision. 24 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: I want to make another disciplinary reason. No, it was 25 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: just my decision to not to not play him. 26 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: There was there was a report that that he was 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: missed part of or all of a team event. Is 28 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: that true. 29 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: No, it was just strictly my decision. 30 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 4: How concerning he isn't now the second time in three 31 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: weeks he's had to be benched in this way. 32 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's unfortunate, but you know those are 33 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: that's the way we kind of work with it this week. 34 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: I mean, Mike, I imagine that when you benched on the 35 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: first time, you hope that the message would get through. 36 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 3: So the fact that this now two weeks later, it's 37 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: it's the same exact thing again, I mean, or it's 38 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: something similar again. 39 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: I mean what I'll just say we have great communication 40 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: and he's one of my favorite players on the team, 41 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: and that was one thing that you know, we talked 42 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: about and it was my decision to not play this. 43 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: Did it happen again? 44 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: That was again, this is one of the things that 45 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: I decided to do. 46 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: What do you mean that that's one of the things 47 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,639 Speaker 4: you talked about. 48 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: Well, well, I talked just like I talked with a duel. 49 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: I talk with all our players and you know, I 50 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: talked with that duel about this week and decided to 51 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: not play them for the first two series. 52 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: Being Tim's still a problem like that have been. 53 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: A constant problem with It's just this was just strictly 54 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: my decision to not play them this week. And he listened. 55 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: When he came back in the game, you saw the 56 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: kind of impact he had and the player that this 57 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: guy is, and I this is a this is a 58 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: kid that I again I back. I support this kill 59 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: highly and for any young player that we have on 60 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: the roster, whether it's a dual or any rookie or 61 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: young player, we're gonna make sure we take them under 62 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: our wing and continue to develop these guys because they're 63 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: impoort to us. They're important to me, and the duels 64 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: no different, just like Jackson, just like you know, young 65 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: players like Tracy and and da all these guys are 66 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: that are stepping up in big time, major roles. You know, 67 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: these are the guys that were continuing to develop, continuing 68 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: to grow, continue to be pros. And you know, the 69 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: standards that we have in our program are super our 70 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: sky high and everyone's gonna upheld to them. But that 71 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: was my decision my decision. Only anything else else outside 72 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: of it, it's going to be kept in house. 73 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: Okay, Mike, But all of the players that you just named, 74 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: all the players you're talking to, they're not committing infractions 75 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: that are leading to them being benched. And you talk 76 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: about how special you know he is and how much 77 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: of a difference he can make. What he's doing is 78 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: taking him off of a field where he didn't play 79 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: for two series, where you guys probably couldn't need. 80 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Connor, I just would say this like, that 81 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: was my decision to do that. And again it's those 82 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: those are tough decisions to make, but that was my decision. 83 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: And again, the kid nothing to do nothing with him. 84 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: Everything that we did that we did was my decision. 85 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: And obviously I'm sure he's wasn't happy about it, which 86 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: I understand, but I thought that was the best thing 87 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: for the team, and it was my decision to move 88 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: forward with it. And and that's where we're at is 89 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: do you regret the decision? I don't regret the decision. 90 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't. Is it tough to value Jackson and twelve 91 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: Jackson in tough situations like this? Sing? Is it hard 92 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: to evaluate Jackson's performance and develop open in tough situations. Well, 93 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: I haven't you know, you watch the game. I have 94 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: a feel for kind of what happened. I'll go back 95 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: and look at the tape and evaluate it fully. But 96 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: it's never just one person. We're a team. It's all 97 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: three phases, all eleven guys on the field. We all 98 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: got to do it together, and we all got to 99 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: be better. 100 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: Mike, your first two games were competitive games, you know, 101 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: close games down to the wire. 102 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: This one was not. 103 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: What do you think of the physicality the physicality of 104 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: your team compared to there, It seems like they were 105 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: more ready. 106 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: For the fight. I thought our guys competed. I thought 107 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: our guys competed. There are some plays that we didn't 108 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: make that we got to continue to look at and evaluate, 109 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: whether from the coaching staff or from the player side 110 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: of it, like where we can get better at. And 111 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, the the good thing is we have a 112 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: buy coming up that we can go and evaluate all 113 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: that stuff and really have a great plan coming back 114 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: after the buye. But yeah, today wasn't wasn't our best effort. 115 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't our best wasn't our best game? Here in 116 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: a minute, so we'll go back and look at it 117 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: and get it cleaned up. 118 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: Mike, the breakdowns on special teams from the start of 119 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: the game, miss tap on a long return and then 120 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: obviously the the return for a touchdown, and then I 121 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: don't know what happened with Koo. His foot just got stuck. 122 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: I mean, overall, you guys have been solid in special 123 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: teams in certain areas. 124 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: What happened tonight, it wasn't. It just wasn't a great 125 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: team effort. All three phases. We got to this. Everyone's 126 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: got to step up, everyone's got to clean up there. 127 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: They're part of the game. But it's never just one phase, 128 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: never just one player, So we all got to do 129 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: better job. 130 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: Before you guys, what did Coup say happen on the 131 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: field goal? 132 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: Well, I saw it live. I saw it live. Look 133 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: at the ball just kind of slipped a little bit, 134 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: so he wouldn't sure if it was gonna gets set. 135 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: You know, Jamie tried to reset it, and then by 136 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: that time it was kind of you know, he was 137 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: already kind of out of his out of his groove 138 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: on it, so you know, it was just just a 139 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, tough, tough bounce, right there. 140 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: Mike, when you when you guys got the ball back 141 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: down two possessions, there was a little lack of tempo. 142 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: I mean that huddling running the ball. Was there any 143 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: consideration given there to to try to speed it up 144 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: to get down the feel. 145 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: A little corker? Yeah, No, kind of we went. We 146 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: went tempo on it, do you know. I was just 147 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: trying to down two scores. We felt like we were 148 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: just right in the game, wanting to get the drive going. 149 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: I think I had an eye on the time on 150 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: where where we would get to to where we really 151 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: need to kind of go super fast. But I really 152 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: felt like if we can just put together a drive 153 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: and go ahead and get points, that would set us 154 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: up to be in the game a little bit more. So. 155 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: You're right, you're kind of teetering on that on that 156 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: line in terms of like going super super fast and 157 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: just kind of trying to stay within the game and 158 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: not get too far away from it. But that's kind 159 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: of where my mind was at as I was calling the. 160 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: Fourth and. 161 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: You give a very aggressive the fourth and one in 162 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: your fortilan the first that why not go for that? Yeah, 163 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: That's that's kind of where that spot was at do 164 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: I want to just do I want to punt it back, 165 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: kind of back them up, get a quick three now, 166 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: and then give us a little bit of field position. 167 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: It was a toss up for me. I just I 168 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: just didn't want to. I wanted to kind of play 169 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: some field position game right there and give our defense 170 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: an opportunities. So, you know, that's one that I'll go 171 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: back and look at if I if that's one where 172 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: I could rip off another fourth down opportunity, right But 173 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, in the heat, in the heat of the game, 174 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: that's where I kind of felt. 175 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: Is that kind of a good The way Drake may 176 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: have played against you guys. 177 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: Well, he was obviously very productive, you know, scrambling, throwing 178 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: the football. You know, he did a nice job with 179 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: some of the explosive things. So you know, we got 180 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: to button that stuff up in the back end, tie 181 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: it in with the front end, and get everything a 182 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: little bit cleaner. 183 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: Understanding that play that fourth and one, he said, you 184 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: have to go back and look over it. But just 185 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: knowing how much you want to be aggressive, is that 186 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 4: something made you will look at it and say, what 187 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: plausive that you know they sware that field or not 188 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: without a play, maybe you'd want back just because it 189 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: went against you wanted to be more aggressive. 190 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were. We were like in go for fourth downs. 191 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you saw all the times we ran it 192 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: on third down. Those are pretty much all go for us. 193 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: So you know, we want to be aggressive, want to 194 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: stay aggressive, and when the opportunity comes up, we'll try 195 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: and be aggressive. I just at that time, it just 196 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: didn't feel like that was the spot for it. Depending 197 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, we get it great. If we don't, now 198 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: you're basically, you know, making a three score game. You 199 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: know where it's now it's a little bit more difficult. 200 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: So just trying to play field position and just and 201 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: stay with it. 202 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: Of the operation with that Charlie pulling sitting, was your 203 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: sense of the operation with Charlie call in the defense? 204 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: I thought the operation was cleaned. I thought the operation 205 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: was clean on the headsets bouncing back and forth in 206 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: the headset, so I can hear a little bit of it. 207 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: But you know, he was calling, he was poised. You know, 208 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: we just all got to do a better job. Do 209 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: you think shambowin was the wrong decision after watching the 210 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: defense today? I doubt, I doubt, you know, I stand 211 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: by Charlie. He'll do a great he'll continue to get better. 212 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: I stand by our defensive side of the sad by 213 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: all our coaches. We had great coaching staff here and 214 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: you know these guys. Everyone will step up. The coaching staff, 215 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: the players, the surrounding support staff will all step up 216 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: for us. Right, And that's what we've got to That's 217 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: what we got to think about that what'll be our goal? 218 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: He was the right. 219 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: Was there any thought on that last series, you know, 220 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: talking about protecting Jackson He took some hits on the 221 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: last one of not putting him out there again. 222 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: So like taking him out of the game. No, I was. 223 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't in front of my mine at all.