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That's right, it's the Happy 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:56.120 half Hour podcast presented by Morris Jenkins. And Mr Jenkins 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.200 told me that he loves football and he looks forward 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.280 to the show all weeks. So when you're having or 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.640 air conditioning is acting up? Called Morrise Jenkins? Orf? Is 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.399 it Morris Jenkins dot com? Kristen here with Will and 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.120 producer Matt Will. How's it going? I'm good. It's a 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.280 little cold. Are you cold? I feel like I say 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.080 that every week now, but it's true. I am cold. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.600 It's cold in Charlotte. It is cold in Charlotte. But 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:20.160 I moved from Chicago earlier this year, so I just 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.840 this is fine. This is an upgrade for you. Yeah, 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.480 this is this works well. I don't know, Matt, I 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.360 feel I feel like you. You can't handle this at all. Love. 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:30.800 I know, I know, I said, I know, I said 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.000 a few weeks ago, I turned my car air on, 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.039 my heat on before I got to my car. But 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.880 I really do love the cold. I like being cold. Um. 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:39.680 I like cold movies, like all my favorite some of 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.680 my favorite movies are all like in the snow. I'm 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:43.440 just a big cold guy. But I'm also kind of 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.600 a baby, So it's fun. Are you Are you a 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.560 what do you call the thing you put on your 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.840 head when it gets cold, either a hoodie or a beanie. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:58.680 It's called it toboggin Kristen, Yeah, I knew called I 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:02.080 actually um is having that conversation with with Derek Brown 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.080 and Eator Grosmatos. Um I was doing a last week 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.480 a Thanksgiving kind of like this or that video of 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.640 all their favorite foods, and they both walked in wearing 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.359 the exact same what I would call it toboggan and 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.400 panthers toboggan. They were, you know, socially distanced and in 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.359 different places, and and Derek was saying each or you know, 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:18.880 you're copying me that kind of thing. And I was like, 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.160 what do you guys because we got into pecan or 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.799 pecan in honor of Thanksgiving, and I was like, what 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.480 do you guys call the thing on your head? And 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.120 uh Derk Brown said skull cap. But he was like, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.400 but I know I've heard toboggan, and I think I 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.799 think each to our said beanie or something like that. 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.720 But I I truly did not know that there was 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.800 another word other than toboggan that was used for a 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.959 knit hat like that or whatever you want to call 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.480 it until um I moved to Connecticut to start working 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.519 for ESPN. I think it was like twenty four and 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:50.640 I said something about it toboggan and they were like, 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.560 that's a sled. I have no idea what you're talking about. 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.160 It was. It blew my mind. I've never heard of 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.160 another word for it. We would have accepted nit cap 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.520 or beanie, but I've never to me, a beanie is different, 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.320 though toboggan perfectly describes it's got like the one roll 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.560 up at the top, you know, and you maybe have 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.519 a pom pom. A beanie is a beanie is something 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.720 that doesn't cover your ears, in my opinion, or barely 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.840 covers your ears like a small I have to get 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.919 the big ones. A toboggan. I don't know if will 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.480 you call it that? Right? Toboggan is a sled, thank you, 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:24.880 That's what I'm familiar. It's I think it's a very 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:30.040 regional North Carolina thing. No, it's a North South thing. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.720 But you just said it's a sled. You're from South Carolina. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.520 Toboggan is a sled, not a thing you put on 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:37.600 your head. That's wrong. I want people to wait. I 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.320 just that's that's just wrong. I thought I would come around, 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.920 you know, my, my people. I'm back in North Carolina. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:44.840 I thought I could just go back to using toboggan 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.480 without getting judged for it. You can. If you're sledding 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:56.280 down a hill, you can. Oh my gosh, real original, real, 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.240 original joke. I've never heard that one before. Why not. 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.560 Just here's the thing. If you're talking about a toboggan, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.960 I know exactly what that means in terms of a hat. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.360 It's got the little pom pom on the top it 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.160 rolls up one that's not a beanie or a skull cap. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.160 In my opinion, those are smaller. Just call a sled 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.160 us lead. You need to know what kind of like 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.839 what model sled it is? Like, what's the difference between 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.520 a toboggan and a regular sled like a flat bottom? 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.359 I'm on, I'm on your side of that. They should 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:25.640 call sleds, but they shouldn't call beanies toboggans. So here, Yeah, 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.920 here's where I got off on the wrong track. When 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.400 I was quite young, I found out that a toboggan 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.800 with something you sled down a hill on thanks to 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.640 Calvin and hop Like. That's where that's where I got 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.080 the toboggan term. And then I was foiled later in life, 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.680 but I attributed all to Calvin and Hobbs. To me, 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:46.440 the difference is a beanie is something that um like 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.160 a like a cool guy would wear, like a hipster would. 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:49.719 But you know what I mean, it doesn't cover your ears. 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.280 It's not for warmth, and a toboggan is you know 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.320 that it's for warmth. That's what you're grabbing. Yeah, I mean, 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.160 that's what you're you know what I mean, But Abenia 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.159 is like for fashion, Toboggan is for warmth, and you 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.160 cannot change my mind. Although I would love to hear 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:06.040 what what what Anyone who's listening things on Twitter let 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.760 me know that I'm right at Kristo Balboni. But anyway, 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.720 it was cold in UH in Minnesota last Sunday. Well 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.440 they play in the Dome. Um, that's my pretty bad transition. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.159 But there we go to UH to the heartbreaker against 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:23.160 the Vikings, thank you, the heartbreaker against the Vikings Panthers. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:27.240 Just I couldn't hold on to that lead will It 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.640 was I mean, it was tough, like there's no there's 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.279 no getting around it. And you know I talked to 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.440 coach Rule and he said this was this was gonna 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:35.800 hurt for a little bit. You know. They preached the 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.680 what's next mentality, and everyone took accountability, from from the 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.840 coaching staff to Teddy to the defenders, you know, for 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.920 for their part and what they felt could have gone better, 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:50.680 what they each individually could have done better. But um, 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.440 you know, mat Rule said that this one's gonna sting 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:53.960 for just a little bit, and it should and and 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.360 we're gonna let it and then we gotta move on. 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.640 There were there were a number of times in that 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.719 fourth quarter where it just felt like, oh no, oh no, 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.280 And part of it was, you know, watching on the 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.000 TV the going into it. You know, it just felt 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.159 like the whole third quarter was just this kind of 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:15.280 Jeremy Chin marathon of all the different Jeremy Chin things. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.400 And then you kind of look up and there's like 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.800 fourteen minutes left and it's like, this is a close game, 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.560 or this is a still very game. Is not out 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.240 of reach, right, yeah, this And then they keep showing 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.800 the Kirk Cousins fourth quarter stats and how Minnesota is 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.919 one of the best offenses in the fourth quarter, and 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.400 it's just it just it almost felt like this inevitability 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:39.080 about it. I mean, the Panthers, they're a team that 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.040 you know, we've we've said on this podcast all year. 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.480 You know, they're so close, They're so close. They've had 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.880 eight games decided by a touchdown or less. Out of 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.760 the twelve that they played, eight have been decided by 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:51.719 a touchdown or less. The problem is there two and 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:55.159 six in those eight games now, and I think in 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:56.560 a lot of ways, you know, you look at that 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.000 rules history, you look at the way that he's built programs. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.760 You know, I think those could be said for for 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.800 both Temple and Baylor. You know, they were close, they 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.359 were close, and then they started winning those games in 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.040 years two and three, and but at the same time, 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.640 you want to try to like, you're right there. Everything 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:16.200 in the NFC playoff picture broke Carolina's way. If they 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:17.960 would have won that game, if they would have been 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.119 able to get a touchdown there after the muff punt, 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.760 if they would have been able to get the field 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.600 goal when it was blocked in the third quarter. You know, 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.440 it's so many different things. You know, get a stop 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.680 and the two been at warning. There's just so many 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.600 different elements like man, man, you know, I want to 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.200 win now. You know, like that's great that we're close 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.080 and we're young, we're getting better, but it's like, you 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.640 want to win now. Yeah, it's hard. You know, I 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.400 think saying it in theory and detaching all emotion from it, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.280 you go, oh, that's great. You know, considering how young 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:52.080 this team is and entirely new coaching staff and um 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:56.360 a lot of new players. Roster turnover was huge. Um 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.560 no no o t A is like this this team 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.120 is playing together for for the first time, no preseason 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.520 um and to be that close in that many games 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:08.280 is great, But then it's just hard to not put 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.160 emotion in it and not you know, feel it every 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.680 day and and every single week. When you get that close, 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.200 it's it's hard not to feel disappointment, even though you 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.480 know in your head you're like, wow, that's that's an 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.720 accomplishment for this team in theory. And one of the 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.040 things that's been asked to both Teddy Bridgewater and Matt 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.800 Rule this week previous weeks, you know that the media 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.680 keep trying to come back to is you know, do 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.880 you guys think about how where you could be if 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:36.800 you had Christian McCaffrey or you know, how much do 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.360 you really miss Christian McCaffrey. Could Christi McCaffrey have been 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.640 the difference? And one of the things that that both 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.199 of those, both Bridgewater and Rule have kind of come 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.040 back to is obviously, Christian mcaffy is a great player, 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.240 but you know, we don't want to disrespect Mike Davis. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.040 We don't want to disrespect the guys that we have 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.199 in the field. You know, we're you know, we have 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.679 faith and trust in every player that we put out there. 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.839 You know, if if someone gets hurt, the next person 0:08:57.880 --> 0:08:59.600 has to come in, and you know, we're gonna have 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.040 faith in that person too. And I get that, and 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.760 that's very true. But since this is me and this 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.120 is you and we're on this podcast, like the Christian 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.959 McCaffrey still leads the team in touchdowns. He's only played 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.559 three games and he has more touchdowns than anyone else 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.400 in this team. You know, you think of all of 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.960 the the opportunities in the red zone and the opportunities 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.760 in the middle of the field, the things that Christian 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.560 McCaffrey is is top three best players in the NFL. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.920 And and you know, we're trying to kind of rationalize 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.640 and say all these different things, like if you have 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.880 Christian McCaffrey, this team is a different team. And I 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.880 think it's it can be that simple that if you 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.480 have your best player, you're better at football, um, you know, 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:42.400 and not making excuses, but also putting some real context 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.360 on it and not just kind of letting that be 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.920 uh swept under the rug. Yeah, I think it's hard. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.679 I don't think that Teddy Bridgewater or Matt Rule can 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:55.120 think like that. And I think that they're Yeah, I 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.439 think you can't say what if if you're if you're 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.320 game planning and you're you're getting from week to week. Yeah, 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:01.560 it's a good it's a good thing for fans to 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.160 remember that we're without, you know, one of the best 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:05.920 players in the NFL and have been for most of 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.800 the season, right, and that that changes everything. That changes 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.120 with your offense, that changes, you know, even what you 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.199 can do on defense to to have him out on 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.680 the field, you know, the way that another team responds 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.360 to you if you have him, Um, it just it 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.400 puts things into a different perspective. And you know, hopefully 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.920 Christian does return. You know, I'm I'm not in the 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.120 camp of you know, oh, you know, make sure that 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.680 he's he doesn't play and let's let's just you know, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.199 kind of see where it goes. You know, like I 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.160 want him if he's he's completely healthy, you know, like 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.319 I hope he does play against Denver. You know, well, 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.079 we'll see if that's the case. You know, I mean, 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.880 no one wants to rush him back, but if he's 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.200 ready to go, you know, he he knows he's paid 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.040 to be an NFL football player. He's not just going 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.600 to sit on the sidelines. UM. You know, at an 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:52.560 abundance of caution. He's paid to go up there and play. UM. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.800 So I I hope you know that he that he 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.560 does come back and we see him in December. Yeah, 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:01.319 I agree. We saw him practice in a limited capacity 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.320 last week. He's He's not the kind of person that 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.920 I don't think is gonna sit out if they're healthy. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.400 I think it's just is healthy and will he be 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.160 you know, he's never been injured before, um, in his 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.640 professional career, and then dealt with that high ankle sprain 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.320 and then the shoulder almost immediately after. And you know, 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.680 I'm I don't know enough to know how long something 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:28.240 like that takes the severity of it. UM. So you know, 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.199 we'll see. But I think you're you're right if he's 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.000 if he's a hundred percent healthy, UM, I think he'll 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.880 be back, all right. But we got to talk about 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.280 something that happened in this game. As as tough of 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.560 a loss as it was and as disappointing for the team, Uh, 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.240 there was some history that was made and will you 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.959 mentioned it. Panthers fans of course know what we're talking about. 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:54.840 Those ten seconds where Jeremy Chin had to fumble recovery 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:59.280 touchdowns and made NFL history. It was I felt like 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.080 I was like a card that needed to wipe my 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.840 eyes out. I was like, what just happened? It was awesome? Well, 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:08.240 everyone was looking back up with the monitor and really, 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.000 are they just showing a replay because it looked like 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.600 the exact same play once he got into the end zone. Yeah, 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.480 well and it looks a yeah, and and and Matt 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:18.839 Rule and I talked about it and he was like, yeah, 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.160 we didn't know if uh and he was down, Like 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.280 were the re supposed to stop the clocks that? We 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:24.600 weren't quite sure. It looked like one of those plays 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.480 where someone just like runs it back, you know, just 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.280 to like hustle in there. And it was just awesome. 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.080 And you're right, it looked exactly the same kind of 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.880 similar field position. Uh. It was great. It I even 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.160 took a while for it to sink into me. I'm like, oh, oh, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:40.320 the score is actually changed twice now, um, but it's 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.880 it was. It was great, and it gave the Panthers 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.360 an incredible advantage in that game, one that unfortunately they 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.760 couldn't hold onto. Um. But you know, in a larger sense, 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:55.440 it is so great to watch his development and also 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.920 just like there's not a nicer, more humble guy he's 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.800 I just I think, I think the world of him 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.040 as a as a person, as a young man, and 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.680 it's great to see his development. Really every single game 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.000 will and I think maybe a little bit lost in 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:13.079 this Minnesota game among the ten seconds of fame that 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.920 that Jeremy had was he had a career I thirteen 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:20.000 tackles like he It wasn't just those ten seconds that 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.160 he kind of you know, jumped in there and made 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.760 a big splash. He was all over the field the 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:29.839 entire game, making big plays. Um. So I think that 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.160 speaks to I think that speaks even larger to the 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.360 way that he's continuing to get better every week, continuing 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.520 to be an impact player. I mean throughout kind of 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.640 NFL media, in most of the Twitter circles, throughout all 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.520 of that stretch, people are now bringing his name up 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.280 for defensive Rookie of the Year. And you know, and 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.520 it's not when you just look at it's not just 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.920 an emotional oh man, those two huge plays were kind 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.439 of like his Heisman moment or whatever. I mean, he 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.000 has eight six total tackles, which his six team more 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:05.240 than the second the second place rookie. He has three takeaways, 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.000 so those two fumble recoveries in an interception more than 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.719 any other rookie. He's got five pass deflections. I mean 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.280 this this guy for for playing the position that he does. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:18.040 He plays safety, he plays outside linebacker, he plays nickel, 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.920 he plays you know, he's he's come up to the line. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:26.840 He's still convert a fourth town special teams played too, right, 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.960 Yeah exactly. Yeah, he has a first first down on 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.320 like he's he's done everything. Um so yeah, I mean 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.840 he he absolutely should be in that conversation. He should 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.560 be at the front of that conversation. And and that 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.880 that's something that I think is really special for him 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.080 that um you know, like I don't I don't think 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.280 that those things should be taken away just because of 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.040 the team's overall record. You know, I think, you know, 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:55.440 really outstanding accomplishment um ends up being something that you 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.160 know that you can really hang your hat on in 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.960 years to come. You know, Like people people talk about 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:05.600 Julius Peppers in his overall arc of his career accomplishments, 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.040 and they continue to mention that he was the defensive 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.480 Rookie of the Year because he set a record for 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.400 sacks in two thousand two. Well, the Panthers were seven 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.360 and nine in two thousand two. That wasn't the Super 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.160 Bowl year. But I think that speaks to you know, 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.080 it speaks to his overall body of work. And I 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.080 hope that Jeremy can win this UM, you know, so 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:24.720 that years down the road, you know, that will be 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:28.320 a big part of his career. That's a that's a 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:32.360 great point, I almost think, and of course I'm I'm biased, 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.800 UM as we work for the team, but I almost 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.160 think it's the way that you're saying that it's almost 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.160 even more impressive, because, yes, typically you would look at 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:44.720 the team's overall success and and that person's UM contributions 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:48.320 to that success. But as we all know, this is 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.920 a very very young team. So so he's doing this 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.440 UM with very little experience and with a lot of 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:00.000 guys around him who have the same level of experience 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.280 as Now, that's not to discount you know, the veterans, 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:06.480 the Shack Thompson's, the Trey Boston's UM. The list goes on. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.680 You know, Zach Kerr, who who's who stripped the ball 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.680 in order for him to have that touchdown in the 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.440 first one. But um, there are there. It's no secret 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.280 there are a lot of young players on this team. 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.080 So the fact that he's stepping up and making these 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.000 huge plays when um, there are a lot of other 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.280 guys who were also still learning around him, I think 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.880 is is great. And um, I just he's just so impressive. 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.560 It's weird to me. It's is it already weird to 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.240 you will to think that we I mean, I know 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.600 he was considered a steal in the draft and the 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.360 Panthers traded up for him, but it's just like so 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.720 obvious how good he is, you know, And and I 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.040 mean that that comes down to coaching and his his 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.600 hard work, and no one, no one had heard of 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.160 him at the draft fans wise, fans wise. Yeah, I mean, 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:55.960 it just it goes to show the the level of 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.480 of you know, even in this day of the Internet 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:03.520 and twenty for our ESPN in college football and all that, 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:08.280 that you you can be an outstanding NFL prospect and 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.800 no one's heard of you because you're not at Alabama 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.440 or Clenson or wherever. You know the fact that here 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:19.520 at Southern Illinois and you know you're you're off people's radar. 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.560 I mean, I guarantee that he was. He was awesome 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:23.960 NFL teams radar just because of that. You know, it 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.760 does it takes more work, It takes a lot more 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.239 digging to kind of find out things, you know, just 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.960 to defind films. Sometimes. Um, there's still that sort of 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.000 disparity in what you can do, um coming from a 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.000 big school versus coming from a small school. But I 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.160 think that that is hopefully, you know, I would love 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.960 to see, you know, more people kind of use that 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.280 as a context for Hey, you can come to a 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:51.440 non power five. You can come to a smaller school 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.480 and find NFL success. You can come there, you can 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.520 have a great college experience. You can be you don't 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.760 have to be a blue chip prospect out of high school. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.040 You can come and develop and get better if you 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.360 have the right tools, do you have the right mindset. 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.359 I mean everyone's already talked about Shack and coach and 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.720 uh defense Court and Phil snow about how Jeremy is 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:16.000 a veteran at whatever, you know, whatever age is. I mean, 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:23.600 he acts like he's older. He's speeches sometimes to like mean, 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.640 it's just it's just two years and it's the way 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.440 he approaches it. And you know, Matt Rule called him 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.640 a serious football guy one time when I was talking 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:30.960 to him, and I was like, I'm pretty sure that's 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:35.440 the highest compliment that coach Rule could give a player. Um, 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.800 but you know, I have to say one last thing. Um. 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:42.320 I had a chance to talk to his mother and 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:48.880 him at the same time. It was right before he won. Um. 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:53.760 But what what do you when the weekly Award will Yeah, yeah, 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.919 so so earlier in the season, um, And we had 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.119 a chance to kind of surprise him. His mom was 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:01.840 on the zoom call. It was right before the Thursday 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.520 night game and UM, she was just wishing him luck 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.360 and it was you know, great for for their family 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.520 in Indiana to to get to see him play on 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.840 prime time and it was a big deal for them. 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.320 And just talking to her about you know, when did 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.320 you know that that this was something that he had 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.760 in him? Um, And and she just said from the 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.040 age of like I think it was like five or 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:26.000 he's like trying to level up to play and in 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.520 different you know, he wanted to play tackle and there 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:30.600 was only flag and it was you know for kids 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.480 who were older than him. And and she just said, 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.440 you know, tearing out to high school and he wasn't 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.040 that big um. You know, his his kind of growth 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.920 spurt and and physical development came on a little bit later. 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:41.639 But she said, you know, I was kind of hoping 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:43.959 that you know, she's working full time and taking him 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:45.679 to practices and stuff. She was like, you know, I 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:47.399