1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we wish 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: someone had miked up Ellie the Elephant and Courtney William's 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: dad fake beefin On Sunday during Game two of the 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: WNBA Finals. 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: You know that trash talk was spicy. 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: On today's show, we're going to talk about Benijelannie Hamilton, 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: and Brianna Stewart's huge performances in that game and what 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: changes as the final series shifts to many plus fleeting 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: fairytale moments, speedy streets and snapped streaks. It's all coming 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: up right after this. Welcome back my orange slices. Happy Monday. 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Here's what you need to know today. The WNBA Finals 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: are all tied up at a game apiece. The New 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: York Liberty Avenge their Game one lost to the Minnesota 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: Links with an eighty to sixty six winning Game two yesterday. 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: Brianna Stewart led the way for the Libs with twenty 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: one points, eight boards, five assists, and a WNBA Finals 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: record seven steals. Benije Lannie Hamilton pured in a playoff 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: career high twenty points in the win as well. Stewie 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: is now the second player in WNBA Finals history to 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: post more than twenty points, five rebounds, five assists, and 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: five steals in a game. The only other player to 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: do that was Alyssa Thomas back in twenty nineteen. Nafisakalier 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: put up sixteen points and eight boards for the Links 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: in the loss. No One on Minnesota's roster eclipsed the 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: twenty point mark. At one point in the game, it 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: looked like the Liberty We're going to recreate the worst 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: of Game one, blowing a lead and letting the Links 28 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: back in. But they held strong to even things up, 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: and the series now moves from Barclay Center to Target 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: Center in Minneapolis for Game three on Wednesday. We are 31 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: also now guaranteed a Game four yay, and that'll be 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: Friday night in Minnesota. We'll have more in Game two 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: and the series later in the show. In soccer, one 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: week after winning the Nwslshield, the Orlando Pride's twenty four 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: game unbeaten streak came to an end on Friday night 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: with a two nil away loss to the Portland Thorns. 37 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Morgan Weaver put the Thorns up one nothing in the 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: thirteenth minute, marking the first time that the Pride trailed 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: in a match since their second game of season. 40 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: Then, in the. 41 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: Fifty fifth minute, Christine Sinclair put one in the back 42 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: of the net for the two goal lead, a glorious 43 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: moment for the greatest scorer of all time, who we 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: know will retire at the end of this season, but 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: more specifically, whose career could wrap up in just two 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: short weeks if Portland doesn't make the postseason. That three 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: points that they got on Friday huge for them as 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: they remain in the league's top eight for now. And 49 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: while the Pride unbeaten streak ends, another streak continues. There 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: has never been an undefeated season in NWSL history, and 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: that's not change in this season. Pride now stand at 52 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: seventeen wins, one loss and six draws on the season. Meantime, 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: Kansas City current forward ten With Chewinga already well on 54 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: her way to winning the NWSL's Golden Boot race, awarded 55 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: annually to the player with the most goals, but on Saturday, 56 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: the twenty six year old broke the NWSL single season 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: scoring record when she scored her nineteenth goal of the season, 58 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: scoring it in a one zierl win against BAFC. Australian 59 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: national team star sam Kerr, who played for My Chicago 60 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: Red Stars back in the day, held the previous record 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: of eighteen goals. She set that during the twenty nineteen season. 62 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: Now it's worth noting, just like we did with a 63 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: handful of the WNBA records, that Chewinga's record comes amid 64 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: a longer NWSL season and in more games. So Curse 65 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: scored eighteen goals in twenty one games played in twenty nineteen. 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: The NWSL season was twenty four games then, but she 67 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: missed three Red Stars games to play with her Australian 68 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: national team. Meanwhile, Chewinga broke the record in Kansas City's 69 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: twenty fourth game of the season, and she'll have a 70 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: chance to add to her tally with two more regular 71 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: season matches remaining. Sam Kerr remains the NWSL leader in 72 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: total regular season goals with seventy seven over seven seasons. 73 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Angel City in North Carolina courage. This matchup 74 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: was a wild one. In the seventh minute of second 75 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: half stoppage time, Angel City forward Kristin Press broke the 76 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: scoreless draw, recording her first. 77 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: Goal in twenty eight months. 78 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: Press was out for more than two years due to 79 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: an ACL injury that resulted in four different surgeries. It 80 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: was a beautiful moment of hope and enjoy for the 81 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: thirty five year old Press, who was competing in her 82 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: one hundredth NWSL game. She said afterwards she'd been watching 83 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: video of her previous goals to help inspire her. Looks 84 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: like it worked out, but Angel City's fairy tale moment 85 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: didn't last for long. North Carolina, looking to defend an 86 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: undefeated home record so far this season, responded in the 87 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: tenth minute of stoppage time with Olivia Wingate finding the 88 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: back of the net for the one to one draw. 89 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: So remember, Angel City took a three point deduction in 90 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: the standings after that NWSL investigation for salary cap violations, 91 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: so with the draw on Saturday, their chances of making 92 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: the postseason looking pretty bleak. If you thought Press was 93 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: the only player to come back from a major knee 94 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: injury to celebrate her one hundredth NWSL cap over the weekend, 95 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: think again. Chicago Red Stars forward male Swanson also recording 96 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: her one hundredth appearance and a two nil loss to 97 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: Gotham on Saturday. Cheers to one hundred mal and no 98 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: more knee injuries. Please any of you. Also, despite that 99 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: loss to Gotham, the Red Stars clinched a spot in 100 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs over the weekend. 101 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: With Washington's win over Racing Louisville. 102 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: The Red Stars are now mathematically guaranteed to finish in 103 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: the top eight. Meanwhile, the Seattle rain were eliminated. They 104 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: will miss the postseason for the first time since the 105 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: inaugural NWSL season in twenty thirteen. 106 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: End of an era. 107 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: Some more basketball news congratulations are in order for WNBA 108 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: legends Simone Augustus and Michelle Tims, who were both inducted 109 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame this weekend. Augustus 110 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: was a two time Naysmith College Player of the Year, 111 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: leading LSU to the program's first three Final Four appearances, 112 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: and spent sixteen years in the WNBA. She's most known 113 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: for her killer crossover and the four championships she won 114 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: with the Minnesota Lynks. She's also an eight time All Star, 115 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: three time Olympic gold medalists with Team USA. She'll make 116 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: her collegiate coaching debut this season as an assistant coach 117 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: at her alma mater of LSU and Tim's Well. She's 118 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: a pioneer of Australian basketball. The guard helped the Opals 119 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: national team earn a bronze and a silver medal at 120 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: the Olympics in ninety six and two thousand, respectively. 121 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: She played five. 122 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: Seasons in the w at the Phoenix Mercury and as 123 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: a member of the franchise's Ring of Honor. 124 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: Well deserved to both of those ballers. 125 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: In marathon news, Kenyon runner Ruth Chepingettish broke the women's 126 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: marathon record by nearly two minutes. 127 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: On Sunday. 128 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: She crossed the line at the Chicago Marathon in two hours, 129 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: nine minutes and fifty seven seconds. 130 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: Breaking the two ten mark. 131 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: My goodness, that is a four to fifty seven mile 132 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: average for twenty six straight miles. I don't think I 133 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: could ride a bicycle that paths for twenty six straight miles. 134 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Also shout out to my city of Chicago. 135 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: Four of the five fastest women's marathons have been run 136 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: right here. You gotta love these Midwest prairie flats and 137 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: the loud enthusiastic fans. I saw some great signs pop 138 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: up on the internet. One of them said, run like 139 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: there's a hot guy. In front of you and a 140 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: creepy one behind you. Very motivating. I like the one 141 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: that just said go random stranger one said hurry so 142 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: we can drink. It is a very social event in 143 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: Chicago to go support the marathoners and then go eat 144 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: and drink as if you've been the one training. And 145 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: then I like the pack of dogs cheering people on 146 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: with the sign that said run like you're chasing squirrels. 147 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: Just a really beautiful day in Chicago every year, and 148 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: super fun that there was another world record. Flat and 149 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: fast course is a runner's dream. So congratulations to Ruth. 150 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: While there are many others to congratulate for running, I 151 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: want to give a special shout out to my friend 152 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: Craig Isaacson. He ran his twenty sixth consecutive Chicago Marathon 153 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: despite pretty much never training, and that is not an exaggeration. 154 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: Almost never trains. He got a hip replacement a few 155 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: years ago. He's on the other side of fifty and 156 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: he's truly a non runner runner And like he said 157 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: after the race last year, quote the marathon is a 158 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: metaphor for life. It doesn't matter how slower faster going, 159 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: so long as you keep moving forward. 160 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: Craig, You're insane, dude. Congrats. 161 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna break down all the good stuff 162 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: from Game two of the WNBA Finals next, But first, 163 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: a fun note from Sabrina Merchant of The Athletic on 164 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: how Minnesota decompressed after their big Game one win. So 165 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: Merchant reported that a bunch of the Links players I 166 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: wanted to see Wicked on Broadway, but it was sold out, 167 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: so they ended up seeing The Notebook. Meantime, Links head 168 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: coach Cheryl Reeve's family took her to watch The Lion 169 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: King Musical in between her many film sessions. She admitted 170 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: to having a tough time focusing, but said that she 171 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: and her wife wanted their son to see his first 172 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: Broadway show. Very cute, I'm guessing. After Sunday's Game two loss, 173 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: the message from coach Reeve was Hakuna matata, no worries. 174 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: Stole on from New York at Barclays and headed to 175 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: Minnesota for some home cooking for Game three. We'll get 176 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more into Game two coming up next, 177 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: but first we gotta take a quick break. Producers Mish 178 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: and Alex join me next with thoughts on a breakout day. 179 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: That inspired some tears from Benijelini Hamilton. It's coming up. 180 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back, my little slices. Another great WNBA Finals game. 181 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: It certainly didn't have the drama of Game one, but 182 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: there was a moment there where I was getting worried 183 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: for the Liberty, wondering if they were going to give 184 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: up another big lead. They led by as many as 185 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: seventeen points in the first half, and it started to 186 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: get chipped away at over time. Ten point lead at 187 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: the half, and then the Links were down just six 188 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: in the third. It looked like it was maybe gonna 189 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: be one of those back and forth finishes again. But 190 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: Benije Lani Hamilton stepped up, Brianna Stewart defensively huge, and 191 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: the Liberty closed it out. So, Alex, let's talk about 192 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: this game before we move on to where the series 193 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: goes from here. What do you think the difference was 194 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: for the New York Liberty today and being able to 195 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: actually close this one out. 196 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: I think Brianna Stewart said it after the game. They 197 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: were focused on not letting history repeat itself, you know. 198 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: I think that memory of Game one was fresh in 199 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: their heads and they weren't gonna let it happen. I 200 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: do want to follow up though, in terms of hokuna matata, 201 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: because Cheryl Reeve was pissed, Like, I think that was 202 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 3: what stood out to me, honestly, biggest picture after the 203 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: game was Minnesota, they stole a game on the road, 204 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: but they're pissed. They wanted to go to and Oh 205 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: heading back home. I think that says a lot about 206 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 3: that team's resiliency. 207 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, except for Cheryl Reeve is almost 208 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: always pised at any moment someone's holding her back, she's 209 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: ripping a jacket off, She's fired up at the officials, 210 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: like she wants this so bad that it's sort of 211 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: hard to tell sometimes whether you're. 212 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: Like, is she excited or mad? 213 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: Which I guess is the sign of a good coach 214 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: right super into it. I think your point about the 215 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: liberty is an interesting one because I think there's a 216 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: double edged sword there in thinking about what happened in 217 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: game one and being so determined to not let it 218 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: happen again that you almost will it to happen again, right, Like, 219 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: is it better to try to completely put it out 220 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: of your mind or try to use it as motivation? 221 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: Mishu played college ball like, how did you handle that 222 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: sort of like let's say you're coming off a terrible game, 223 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: or you remember facing a team before and you let 224 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: them come back. 225 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: And beat you. 226 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: Did you try to fire yourself up using that or 227 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: did you try to do like a clean slate meditative 228 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: approach to the next one. 229 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 4: I'm always a clean slate kind of person. 230 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: I'm saying, yeah. 231 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 5: I feel like it depends on who you are, right, 232 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 5: It's never one size fits all in that scenario. For me, 233 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 5: it always worked having a clean splate, because when you 234 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 5: start thinking about things, then you don't start playing freely 235 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 5: start you know, you clam up a little bit, and 236 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 5: we see I think we saw that from the Liberty 237 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 5: in Game one, thinking about what they had done against 238 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 5: the Links in the regular season, you know what I mean, 239 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 5: or even in the first half, or even in the 240 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 5: first of all we blew it. 241 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: But now we're back up. Oh we're letting it go again. 242 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: Oh we're getting tight. Yeah exactly. 243 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 5: You can never think about that or else. That's stifles 244 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 5: everything you do from that moment on. 245 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: I think if I had kept playing and matured as 246 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: a human being, I might have figured that out. I 247 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: was such a red ass like I was always like 248 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna avenge everything. 249 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: And the biggest game in my life. 250 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it did probably get in the 251 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: way of like competing freely, and so I'm sure the 252 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: sports experts, the psychology experts would say that your approach 253 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: is a better one, and it might have been what 254 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: the Liberty did in Game two. Let's talk about Benija 255 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: Laney Hamilton after the game, did a quick interview with 256 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: Holly Row and there were some tears there talking about 257 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: how our teammates were patient with her, how our teammates 258 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: were supportive of her as she has slowly worked her 259 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: way back from injury, and even her halftime interview, there 260 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: was so much relief, just like shot came back. That 261 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: was it, Shot came back. What did you see from hermesh. 262 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 5: Alex already mentioned resiliency. I think Benizeleny Hamilton is the 263 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 5: picture of that, right. She's been with the Liberty franchise 264 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 5: for a long time now. She's been a steady constant 265 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 5: through their horrible years, through their their Westchester er Kayala 266 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 5: and the Black Rosie media folks talk about when they 267 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 5: were back in Westchester in a different venue and weren't 268 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 5: in Barclays. 269 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: Benija was there. 270 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 5: She's been there through all of it, and now she's 271 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 5: here as a Liberty are making this finals run, and 272 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 5: what I saw from her is finally feeling like she's back. 273 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 5: I think she told Holly in one of those interviews 274 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 5: the shot kicked in right, whatever shot they put on 275 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 5: her knee after she had that minor surgery on it 276 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 5: in July. 277 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: Oh, you thought they meant literal shot. 278 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 5: No, yeah, I did think they meant I thought she 279 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 5: met my shot kicked in. 280 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 4: No, I thought she met like me. I had the 281 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 4: reason why I thought that. 282 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 5: I thought that because I had a college teammate shout 283 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 5: out Byankabalm Doug glovy Bean, who had the worst neat 284 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 5: issues I think I've ever had a teammate deal with ever, 285 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 5: and so she regularly had to get like cortizone shots 286 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 5: or whatever it is. So it could be either she 287 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 5: was talking about the shot the needle, or maybe she 288 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 5: was talking about the shot dropping in the bucket. Either way, 289 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 5: she was bawling. I think, you know, four or six 290 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 5: from three. I think her defense is underrated. Always she 291 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 5: locked up Kaylen McBride. She was the primary assignment there 292 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 5: held McBride to eight points. I believe it was between 293 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 5: her and Foebish, and she just had a complete impact 294 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 5: on the game on both sides of the ball, which 295 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 5: is what we've come to expect from who I think 296 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 5: happens to be one of the most unsung heroes in 297 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 5: this era of WNBA basketball. 298 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a tremendous player when she's healthy, and it's 299 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: been a little bit up and down the season, so 300 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: it was really great to see her be able to 301 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: do her thing. 302 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: I think we need to put that out to the slices. 303 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: Did they think that she was talking about the shot 304 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: as in cortisone or the shot as in my shot 305 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: was dropping? And then maybe we'll put some reporters on 306 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: that as well to see what she was talking about. 307 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: I love that we heard that completely differently. Yeah, I 308 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: mean there. 309 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: Were a couple moments throughout this game that really stood 310 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: out to me. There was a stretch on back to 311 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: back plays where Brianna Stewart used her length on defense. 312 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean a WNBA Finals record seven steals for a 313 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: big I know she brings the ball up. I know 314 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: she's like a non position player, positionless kind of big, 315 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: but like that's still incredibly impressive. And also, Sabrina came 316 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: out super hot. And as much as Sabrina's numbers didn't 317 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: look bad in Game one, her shooting percentage did. And 318 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: I think she really needed to come out and prove 319 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: herself so in the second half, her willingness to not 320 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: force it, to see that Slute was hitting, that Brianna 321 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: was hitting, that John Quell was hitting, that Benija was hitting, 322 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: and to be okay with that, to do the things 323 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: that aren't going to show up in the box score 324 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: but that are going to help her team. 325 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: I thought that was really important to me. 326 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, sab she did what sab does right. She had 327 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 5: that fire in her eyes. We've talked about it all postseason. 328 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 5: You don't expect her to struggle back to back shooting 329 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 5: the basketball. She's too good of a shooter. And she 330 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 5: came out guns blazing. There was no hesitation in her shot. 331 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 5: But I also think something that was importan and there 332 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 5: was no hesitation in her decision making either. I think 333 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 5: you know, we talked about whether or not you have 334 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 5: to think about the mistakes you made in. 335 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 4: The prior game. She clearly wasn't. She was next page. 336 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 4: She was next shot. 337 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: She was next play, and I think that was what 338 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 5: really set the tone for New York early. 339 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: On in the game. 340 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 5: And then you talk about Stewie. I tweeted about it 341 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 5: after Game one. I'm like, Stuwie's coming back with a vengeance, 342 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 5: like stamped that easily, and a lot of people replied 343 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 5: or quoted and were like, I hope, so, I hope. 344 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 5: So it was never a hope scenario for me, because 345 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 5: she is too good a basketball player. This was a 346 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 5: vintage Stewie performance and what we should have expected from her, 347 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 5: someone with a mental fortitude, right. I think even in 348 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 5: Game one, after she missed the free throw that would 349 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 5: have sealed the game for them, and after she missed 350 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 5: the layup, we saw some uncharacteristic like real frustration. I've 351 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 5: seen her a little bit, you know, maybe a little 352 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 5: peeve at times, but she I think she audibly screamed 353 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 5: as she was walking back to the bench after missing 354 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 5: the free throw, so I knew she was gonna come 355 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 5: back locked in, and she just did what she does. 356 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 5: I mean, her and Alyssa Thomas are two of the 357 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 5: most talk about positionlessketball. Talk about a players who can 358 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 5: literally do anything you ask them to do. Got to 359 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 5: go down in history as two of the most versatile 360 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 5: players as games ever seen. 361 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: For sure. 362 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the cool thing about Stewie too is not 363 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: only does she like just have this insane killer game 364 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: across the entire box scores she's eaten up, but then 365 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: afterwards she's holding Ruby, her daughter while doing her postgame 366 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: conversation with Holly and Alex. I know we like to 367 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: do the only in women's sports thing. And yes, I've 368 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: seen kids get up and speak with their dads after 369 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: a game. 370 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: It just hits different when it's the mom right, Oh 371 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: so good. 372 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I want to embody Ruby's tongue out 373 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: non answer to Holly. I I want to embody that 374 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: going forward in life. 375 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: The older you get, I can tell you from experience, 376 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: you get closer and closer to the tongue out non 377 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: response DGAF. 378 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: So please know I'm doing it right now. 379 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: Speaking of Holly reports, I also love that she went 380 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: up to the very top of the Barclays and just 381 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: talked about the fan experience. I think they're there this 382 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: ongoing conversation about whether women or men or anybody was 383 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: going to women's sports or watching women's sports. There's often 384 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: this sort of disingenuous argument that, like, even women don't 385 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: like women's sports, And that was said a lot in 386 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: years past when there wasn't a lot of investment being put. 387 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: Into the game day experience. 388 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: And shout out to the fans who still showed up, 389 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: Shout out to those of us who still wanted to watch. 390 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: But there is a big difference now when you choose. 391 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: To go to a WNBA game, say, versus a million 392 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: other activities and entertainment options, because there's a lot there. 393 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: There's halftime entertainment, and there's Ellie the mascot, and there's 394 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: T shirt giveaways, and there's merchant concessions, and the crowd 395 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: is going crazy, and there's announcers and MC's like all 396 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: of that affects your experience there and you have a 397 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: million things to choose from. When you pick a WIBA game, 398 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: now you know that you're getting something awesome, and the 399 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: Liberty are top of the line with that, like they're 400 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: probably the most must. 401 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: Be at event in the WNBA. 402 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: And you could see that from their quote unquote Celeberty 403 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: row and you could see that from the scene from 404 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: the tip off to the very last point of the game. 405 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: The fans are going nuts, and I loved Holly going 406 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: all the way up to the top to be like, listen, 407 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: the fans up in the nosebleed still have a greade 408 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: view and they're having a blast. 409 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: It was really cool. 410 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: And actually eighteen forty fans for Sunday's game. That is 411 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,239 Speaker 1: a Liberty record at Barclays most fans they've had at 412 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: that facility for a game, and I just you love 413 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: to see that, and you love to see them point 414 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: it out because I think the Liberty deserve a lot 415 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: of credit for like taking that step, and now everybody 416 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: else in the league has got to step up, right, Alex. 417 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's become a cultural touchstone, you know, like going 418 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: to a Liberty game is cool. I think of all 419 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 3: of the fun references that we've seen, and I'm using 420 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: fun and quotes because a lot of times it feels like, 421 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 3: you know, the WNBA becomes a punchline in some of 422 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: our otherwise favorite shows. Sarah, what you were saying about 423 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: making a thing that fans want to see, though, I'm 424 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 3: in the tangent quickly to the PWHL and Women's hockey 425 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: to a quote that I absolutely loved from Stankasten, who's 426 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: on the PWHL advisory board and was very much in 427 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 3: charge of getting that league up and going. And at 428 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: a press conference this was over a year ago, a 429 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: reporter asked him, Okay, you guys have started this league, 430 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: is it now on the fans to help grow this 431 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: league in the sport? And he was like, absolutely not. 432 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 3: It's never on the fans. It's on us to provide 433 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: a reason for them to come and support us every day. 434 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: No fan owes us time or money. It's on us 435 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 3: to earn it. Love that I in that moment was like, 436 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 3: oh my god, he gets it, because so much in 437 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 3: women's sports it's treated like a charity. It's treated like 438 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 3: you should go because you have daughters and you want 439 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: to empower them. It's like, no, make it a good experience. 440 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: Make it something that people want to invest their time 441 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: and money in. And I think that's what we're seeing 442 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: in New York right now. 443 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 444 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: I completely agree. 445 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: Also, you were talking about we were mentioning before the 446 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: game that that record that they mentioned is not a 447 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: Liberty record, it's just a Barclays record, which is some 448 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: interesting context to think about, like what they might have 449 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: been doing before. 450 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely so. The Liberty used to play at Madison 451 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: Square Garden before those days at the Westchester County Center, 452 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 3: and they were pulling in more fans at that venue 453 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: games than they were even on Sunday night for Game two, 454 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 3: just because of a capacity difference there. But I think 455 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: it's important to remember that as women's sports are growing, 456 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 3: as we're celebrating what feels like a moment, it's certainly 457 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 3: growth from what we saw five years ago, six years ago, 458 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 3: ten years ago, but it's not necessarily an all time high. 459 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: And I think it's important to recognize that, both to 460 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: celebrate the history of this league and what came before it, 461 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: but also to understand that just because something's happening right 462 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: now doesn't mean that it's going to continue to go 463 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: up automatically. You know, it has to be something that 464 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 3: you continue to invest in it. 465 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: That's so true. 466 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: And I do think also, like when we ignore some 467 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: of those peaks that happened before, like when we say 468 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: it's the highest attendance since two thousand and two, or 469 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: it's the most viewers since ninety eight, we need to 470 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: go back and look at those old years and say 471 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: what were they doing then, what was working and why 472 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: did it drop for twenty years before it came back, 473 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: or what got in the win. You know, in a 474 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: previous episode, we did talk about some decision making that 475 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: was in a book about, you know, the oral history ESPN, 476 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: that there was a high ranking front office guy who 477 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: wanted to bury the WNBA and put it on side 478 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: channels and not invest in it and not had a 479 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: major effect on the league. So I think being able 480 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: to go back and look at the high points in 481 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: the past doesn't take away from the arrow going up 482 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: now and the progress now. It just helps inform it 483 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: so we can do better and making sure that the 484 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: arrow continues to go up. 485 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: I love that, Alex. That's such a smart point. 486 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: Some of the fun people we saw at the game 487 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: on Sunday, Jay Hudd and her Boo Common, John Turturo 488 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: was there. Abby Jacobson from broad City shout out broad City, 489 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: amazing show. I saw my girl, Renee Stubbs losing it 490 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: at a ref in the back of a shot at 491 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: one point court side. 492 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 2: Again, it's fun, a lot of class. 493 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: Billy Jean King's spouse, great tennis player of her own right, 494 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: was there, so It's always really fun to check out 495 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: the scene there the celebs, and then Gino, Oria'm a 496 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: Yukon coach, was there hanging out with Brienna after the 497 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: game in her son, THEO in. 498 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: Her arms, which was really cute too. 499 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: This very like like, I don't know, the little basketball 500 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: family continuing, so. 501 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: I do want to play out that. After the game, 502 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: Brianna made the point of saying that since she joined 503 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: the Liberty last season, this is the first time that 504 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: Gino made the two hour drive from Yukon down to 505 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: Brooklyn to watch her play, which I thought was very funny. 506 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: Come on, Gino, get it together wild You're not even far. 507 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 508 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't know who knows, though I could see Gino 509 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: being that guy who literally doesn't like leave his office, 510 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: just sleeps there, watches more film, looks at some moretine like. 511 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 3: That's meanwhile, Page, I'm sure had a great weekend globe 512 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 3: trotting and then baking class on Monday morning. 513 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 2: That's right, That's right. Okay, so game three coming up. 514 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: I like that we have a little bit of time 515 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: before that to actually reflect react to this game before 516 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: we get to Game three. So let's get to Game 517 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: three on Wednesday in Minneapolis. Miche, what's the biggest difference 518 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: you expect to see with the series shifting there. 519 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 5: I think, you know, the the hot starts we saw 520 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 5: from Minnesota when they had the home court advantage against 521 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 5: the Connecticut in the semifinals, We are going to see 522 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 5: that kind of start from the Minnesota Links. They're gonna 523 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 5: come out firing home nets for them, is going to 524 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 5: mean more made threes than we saw in Game three. 525 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 5: The Game two they only hit six of them. Yeah, 526 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: so they had a rough night from there. And then 527 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 5: I think the defensive energy will be at a high. 528 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 5: They're going to be feeding off the energy in that 529 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 5: target seat, that target center crowd they get going. That's 530 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 5: that's a franchise that's had a dynasty, right, They've got 531 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 5: four championships already. Those folks know what it takes, know 532 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 5: what that team needs behind them in order to come 533 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 5: out with a win. And I think this is going 534 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 5: to be an important win. Right they stole one from 535 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 5: New York at Barclays. They don't want New York stealing 536 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 5: one from them on their home court. And then on 537 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 5: the other end, you know that up defensive pressure for 538 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 5: Minnesota is going to mean, the Liberty are gonna have 539 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 5: to battle through frustration, battle through you know, all the 540 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 5: fouls that they might think, the ustill miss, all that 541 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 5: good stuff. They got to keep their composure, got to 542 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 5: keep their heads in that environment. 543 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: And I also think the links we talked about before 544 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: game one that they were likely to be tired from 545 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: having the quick turnaround after their last series, and they 546 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: didn't really show it in that Game one. 547 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: They came back. 548 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: From massive deficits, but that sort of post game one 549 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: hangover of not only do we not have a lot 550 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: of rest, but then we put so much effort into 551 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: those comebacks. The adrenaline, the excitement, the enthusiasm, maybe a 552 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: little bit of a letdown in Game two as a 553 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: result of that. So the rest that they'll get in 554 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: between these games, and also the energy that they'll get 555 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: from a home crowd on every fee block, on every 556 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: defensive possession that they lock down the Liberty on every 557 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: feed away shot. 558 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 2: Which is like the most beautiful and deadly shot in 559 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: the league. 560 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: Right now, all of that is going to build and 561 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: that's going to make a huge difference to me, Alex, 562 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: you see anything else about this series coming back to many. 563 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: I just don't think the series is going to go 564 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 3: back to New York. Honestly, I feel like Minnesota is 565 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 3: going to finish. Finish the thing in Minnesota. I know 566 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 3: now that my ninety five percent insis doesn't I have. 567 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: To come up with a newtake that's spicy, so nice. 568 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 5: I don't know if I agree with you when I 569 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 5: hear you, sister, I hear you, Okay. 570 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: I just think you know. Cheryl said posts game she 571 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: was disappointed that they let it get to a seventeen 572 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 3: point difference again, and then she was like, actually and 573 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 3: pissed more than I'm disappointed, And I think that should 574 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: scare New York, right, Like it should scare New York 575 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 3: that Minnesota can come back essentially from such a big 576 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 3: deficit on two different occasions. But I think what should 577 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 3: scare them more is the fact that Minnesota didn't need 578 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 3: to get down to such a deficit. And I don't 579 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: think they're going to let themselves do it again. 580 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: Spicy takes from Alex. We love it well. 581 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna have some good guests to chat about the 582 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: series before that game, and plenty more to say about it, 583 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: but we got to take another break when we come. 584 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: Back we're going to open up the Listener mail bag. 585 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: Stick around, welcome back slices. 586 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: Time to hit the Listener mail bag. 587 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: After my interview with Golden Metal winning cyclist Kristin Faulkner, 588 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: I shared my disdain for cycling uphill anywhere, anytime, and 589 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: I said that participating in the Tour de France might 590 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: be the absolute last sport I would ever choose. And 591 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: I asked y'all to chime in with yours. A few 592 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: of you did, including Pamela Mudway, who wrote in quote, 593 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: at this point in my life in my fifties, I 594 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: think synchronized swimming might actually be the thing that ends me. 595 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: My ears would pop and I would probably get water 596 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: in my lungs and possibly drowned. Plus trying to moonwalk 597 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: upside down while holding your breath, that's a hard pass. 598 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: End quote agreed. 599 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: Pamela DP wrote quote any form of mma sounds the 600 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: absolute worst to me. I cannot understand why anyone would 601 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: voluntarily take an elbow, knee, or foot to the face. 602 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: End quote. Heard and agreed. 603 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: We also got an email from Melissa Obradovich who wrote 604 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: in with the question for us. 605 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: She said, what makes a dog? Is it? 606 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: A you know what when you see it situation? Our 607 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: player's dogs all the time? Or is it game by game? 608 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: Who isn't a dog? Two examples in question in my 609 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: house tonight, Alicia Clark and Courtney Vanderslute nearly universally loved 610 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: and respected, But are they dogs? 611 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: So Alex, I'm bringing you in on this. 612 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: It actually reminds me of the always controversial glue guy 613 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: glue gal conversation, like what makes the glue person is 614 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: always up for debate? Can you even be a glue 615 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: person if you're too good? But how good you have 616 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: to be to be the glue guy or the glue gal? 617 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: And I feel like kind of the same for a dog, 618 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: Like I feel like someone like Alyssa Thomas is a 619 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: dog but is also a superstar, so not really a dog. 620 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: I feel like a dog has to be motivating, effective, 621 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: can turn it on. Is more like a spurts person 622 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: than a consistent dominance, will always be scrapping, might get 623 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: you some teas like it's a vibe and I think 624 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: you are always a dog, not a game by game dog? 625 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: Meish, do you agree? 626 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of feel like you're describing dog the 627 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 5: way I think of glue player, right, I think be 628 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 5: a dog, I do think any what, Yes, but I 629 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 5: agree with you that it has to be consistent. 630 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 4: It can't be a you turn it on you. You 631 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 4: got to be a dog twenty four to seven. 632 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 5: And dog to me is you got that relentlessness, that 633 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 5: will to win a game or possession or rebound, whatever 634 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 5: it is that permeates everything else that's happening in the competition. Right, 635 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 5: those those players where their will it feels like it's tangible, right, 636 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 5: It feels like it's something that can be measured on 637 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 5: a scale, like. 638 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: They want it more than everyone else, more than everything. 639 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: Will not waste a second of not giving one hundred 640 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: and twenty percent. 641 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 4: Yes, And you can't. 642 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 5: Even be relieved when they make a mistake because you 643 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 5: know they're coming back at you like two times harder 644 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 5: the next time I have an opportunity, doesn't matter if 645 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 5: it's offense, defense, you know whatever. 646 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: And to a Lissa's point talking about these. 647 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 5: Two examples, I think Alicia Clark has specifically made a 648 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 5: career of being a dog, right, and she has three 649 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 5: championships with two different teams for a reason. Becky Hammond 650 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 5: sought her out, you know, in twenty twenty two or 651 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 5: whatever season she came over to the aces for a reason. Slut, 652 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 5: I think is the one that you really kind of 653 00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 5: have to think. 654 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: I don't even have a dog. 655 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she has been a dog. 656 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: I think I think the presence more than a inspiring Like. 657 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 4: She's a point guard, you know what I mean. Point 658 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 4: guards have to kind of have. She's like a. 659 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: Coach on the floor, and a coach ain't a dog. Yeah, 660 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: that's all Cheryl occasion. 661 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: Wait, Alan, do you agree with me on the dog 662 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: glue person? 663 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: No, I think I take a little bit of a 664 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: different take to it. I feel like a Supreme Court justice. 665 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know how to define it, but 666 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: I know when I. 667 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: See it exactly. 668 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: To me, I think a dog is somebody that doesn't 669 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: have any self doubt. There's somebody that bets on themselves 670 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: every time, even if the odds are stacked against them. 671 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: I'm not a dog, I know that about myself. I'm 672 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 3: somebody that if I make a mistake, I'm like, I 673 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 3: should probably hold off again for a real long time 674 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: before I try that again. But you know, like I 675 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: look at Courtney Williams in Game one, right that plutch 676 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: three point towards the end of the game, she misses 677 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: it gets them all again and makes that to me, 678 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 3: is a dog of like it doesn't matter what happened 679 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 3: in the past. I know I can do it now. 680 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: And I think it's more of like an attitude in 681 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 3: a self belief than it is a even style of 682 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: to me, I. 683 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 4: Right different things. 684 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, that's like because Kelsey plums like that, 685 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: but she's and Kelsey Plum is she's like a super 686 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: star dog. It's like a superstar dog, which is like 687 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: a different kind of dog. Maybe we got breeds. 688 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. 689 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. There are different breeds of dog, and 690 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: it always with a W. 691 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: By the way, I have to tell you that, Alyssa, 692 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: in your email, you were spelling it like dog. 693 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: It's dog d a WG. So here's the thing. 694 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: I agree, we might have breeds a dog because Kelsey 695 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: Plum is absolutely a dog, but she's also a star. 696 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: And usually for me, dogs aren't superstars. They're like role 697 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: player but great. But a glue gal is you cannot 698 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: be a dog and a glue gal. A glue girl 699 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: for me is the person that like doesn't get that 700 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: many minutes or gives a good halftime speech, but you know, 701 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: is not gonna ever, you know, get get in the 702 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: game like A glue person brings the divas together with 703 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: the quiet people, like brings the whole team together in 704 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: a way that doesn't always involve play as much. And 705 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: a glue person, to me, is not the fiery, spicy 706 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: might get a tech person that a dog is interesting. 707 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 5: I love I love hearing the diversity of perspectives here, 708 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 5: I really do. 709 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: All right, well, let's ask the people to can you 710 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: first of all, can you be a dog and a 711 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: glue gal? Secondly, can you be a superstar and a dog? 712 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: Are there different breeds a dog? The superstar dog and 713 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: the like role player dog is Alicia Clark. 714 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: A dog is saluted dog. 715 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: A lot of questions. 716 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: Meiche niche, were you a dog? You didn't play any defense? Meche. 717 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, okay, look I exaggerated defense. 718 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 4: You know what, maybe a dog. 719 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 5: I took probably more charges of anybody in the history 720 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 5: of will Very basketball. If they had charted those guaranteed 721 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 5: on the top of that list, that was that was 722 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 5: my dog and shooting anything you give me. 723 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: So do you guys want to know if I was 724 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: a dog? 725 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: We know you. 726 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: I think we know you were a dog. Is it 727 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: because I'm a fucking red ass and I can't. 728 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: Lose anything and I will claw your eyes out if 729 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: you get in my way? 730 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: Is that why? 731 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: All right? 732 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: We love that you're all are listening, but we want 733 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: you to get in the game every day too. 734 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: So let us know the answers to all our questions. 735 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: I'll put them up. 736 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: On social at Sarah Spain on Twitter, x at Spain 737 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: two three two three on Insta. And we've got another 738 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: good game play at the day in honor of Simona 739 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: Gustus and Michelle Tim's getting inducted into the Nasmith Hall 740 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: of Fame this weekend. 741 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: We mentioned that earlier in the show. 742 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: We want you to watch another Hall of Fame speech, 743 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: Teresa Weatherspoon speech from her induction back in twenty nineteen. 744 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: Will link to it in our show notes speaking of dogs, 745 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: bringing on bringing out dogs. 746 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: We love to hear from you. 747 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: Also hit us up on email good game at Wondermedia 748 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: network dot com or leave us a voicemail at eight 749 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: two two o four fifty seventy. We love the question Alyssa. 750 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: If anybody else ask questions, send him our way. We'd 751 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: love to answer them on the show. And don't forget, 752 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, I've it to say, Subscribe, rate and review. 753 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: It's easy watch finding a women's sports Easter egg in 754 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: an old movie. 755 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: Five out of five parent Traps. Shout out at Page bk. 756 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: Ers on Twitter, not to be confused with the real Pagebeckers. 757 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: They posted a screen grab from the Parent Trap and 758 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: noticed that there's a Lisa Leslie WNBA poster pinned to 759 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: the cabin wall of Lindsay Lohan's American character Chef's Kiss. 760 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: Love that it's like Ron Swanson being a diehard WNBA 761 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: fan on Parks and rec It's like those Team USA 762 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: badass is popping up on Martin back in ninety six. 763 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: You just you love to see. 764 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: It, hey, Speaking of the parent Trap, meche, I'm going 765 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: out on a limb here and I think I know 766 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,239 Speaker 1: the answer to this. But did you know that there 767 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: is another version before the Lindsay Lohan one. There's a 768 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: Hayley Mills version of the Para Trap, the original. 769 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 4: Do you know that I barely saw the Lindsay Lohan one. 770 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: No, Like you're too young for the Lindsay Lohan one. 771 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 4: I am young. 772 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 5: Okay, no, yes, wait, it was probably out it it's 773 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety for me. 774 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: I don't know when were you born again? 775 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 4: Ninety seven? 776 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: You were born in ninety seven? Yees. Oh my god, 777 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: that's so upsetting. 778 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: The parent Trap Lindsay lohand version came out a year 779 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: after you were born. 780 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 781 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 3: I don't know why. 782 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: That in particular is so much more upsetting than the 783 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: fact that I've already known your age for this entire. 784 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 2: Working on this show. 785 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I want you to know that the Hailey Mills 786 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: version came out full twenty years before I was born, 787 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: but it was like that was the classic, So I 788 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: have I have seen it, Alex, I would assume you 789 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: also have not seen the nineteen sixty one Hailey Mills 790 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: Parent Trap. 791 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: I have not. 792 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, how about another good game play of the 793 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: day just for anyone who asks them free time. It's 794 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: gonna feel very dated to youngsters, but the Hailey Mills 795 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: parent Trap is arguably even better than the Lindsay Lohan one. 796 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 2: It's really good. 797 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: At one point, there's this song that they sing together 798 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: where like the American one has a guitar and the 799 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: British one's playing the piano, and I will randomly bust 800 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: out into that song just throughout my life. 801 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 2: It's that catchy. It's like, let's get together. 802 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can have a real good time. 803 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: Let's get together nobody. Okay, I'm alone in this. This 804 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: is well before my time and it's worth your time. 805 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: So shout out to Haley Mills, who also, by the way, 806 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: precursor to Save by the Bell was a show called 807 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: Good Morning, Miss Bliss that starred Hailey Mills that they 808 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: canceled and then turned into Save by the Bell and 809 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: then she wasn't on it anymore, so she really got 810 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: screwed in that. But anyway, we've gone down a deep 811 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 1: Haley Mills hole, very talented actress. 812 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: Well before everyone's time. Okay, now it's your turn, rate 813 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 2: and review. 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