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Speaker 2: Oh no, we started, really you started, Sims, and I started.

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Speaker 3: Alright, so you guys, so you guys, you guys keep

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Speaker 3: recording filibuster for fifteen seconds because I'm just going to

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, all right, good.

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Speaker 5: This guy he is, he's prepared here.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah, not I mean a fucking bottle of water.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna get up to get that.

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Speaker 4: He can't make it through the next twenty minutes without

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Speaker 2: Do you ever hear him hacking?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he needs the bottle of water.

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Speaker 2: Just I mean, little professionalism, little preparedness.

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Speaker 5: Seriously.

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Speaker 3: Chris Simms is with us the Unbuttoned podcast Football Night

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Speaker 3: in America be Efty with Mike Florio every day on Peacock.

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Speaker 3: We love him, we miss him. Football seasons over. I'm

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Speaker 3: sad but he's ranking. But he's ranking again.

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Speaker 1: He is. I love a good ranking.

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Speaker 3: So quickly, quickly, before we get to the football stuff, Sims,

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Speaker 3: Taylor is not here. I am wondering as a fellow

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Speaker 3: Yankee fan. Taylor is a big Yankee fan. Were you

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Speaker 3: able to find yourself uh, were you able to find

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Speaker 3: the ability to root for Roman Anthony as a Yankee

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Speaker 3: was rooting for Team Venezuela. Up he was rooting for

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Speaker 4: No, I don't have any problem with that. I can

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Speaker 4: make that crossover. I mean, you know, Taylor's he's you know,

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Speaker 4: He just got out of the cave not long ago,

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Speaker 5: So I understand that Red Sox.

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Speaker 4: We start fire, Yankee start fire, then Red Socks copy.

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Speaker 5: You make fire that Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you've never been more right about anything you've said,

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Speaker 4: No, but I can do that. I'm also one of

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Speaker 4: the I guess, those weird New Yorkers. And I don't

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Speaker 4: know if this always happens this way, but I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't like hate the Mets because I'm a Yankees fan, right,

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Speaker 4: and you know there's there's like fans here in the

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Speaker 4: And I was like, no, No, I mean I would

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Speaker 4: played in the NFL, college my New York pride showed through.

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Speaker 4: If the Mets were good, I'd be like, look, the second,

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Speaker 4: So I always use that as a point of pride.

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Speaker 4: But no, for the the World Baseball Classic, I could

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Speaker 5: That's an American I can do.

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Speaker 2: Funny, you say that as a Yankee fan, if you

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Speaker 4: I would agree with you as well. I have no

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Speaker 4: that they always that's all they have to hear about

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Speaker 4: I get to the Mets.

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Speaker 1: As a Met fan. I will tell you it's just

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's the same thing with the Jets and the Giants too,

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Speaker 1: Because we're a bunch of miserable fucking That's why we

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Speaker 3: I mean, we really don't care. They're in a different conference.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I know, were you into the World

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Speaker 4: It's not baseball season. I just I'm a little that way.

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Speaker 4: First off, I'm still sad football is over. I'm working

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Speaker 4: I'm not. And here's my thing with the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 5: I don't agree with that.

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Speaker 3: I love what Derek Jeter said, and he should be

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Speaker 1: Judge has I mean, I know That's where it.

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Speaker 4: Was weird to the judge saying that, you know, I

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Speaker 5: And I wish, you know, I never got to experience that.

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Speaker 4: Football players don't get to experience it until you know

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Speaker 3: What will the next four days look like for Chris

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Speaker 5: Rest of us. I'm not glued.

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Speaker 4: I'm not glued because I have to be glued to

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Speaker 5: So I'm looking at that going holy okay.

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Speaker 4: Every day I'm like, oh, I only get to watch

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Speaker 4: So I'm that's really where I'm at in my life.

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Speaker 5: But it'll be kind of background noise during the day.

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Speaker 1: Sims as you get ready for the draft. You're preparing

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Speaker 3: But I am wondering who is the guy that kind

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Speaker 1: Then you watch the tape You're like, holy shit, this

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Speaker 4: Actually they're really as first off, the receivers, it's a

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's some really good ones. You know.

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Speaker 4: He could I made the comment he could be Marshall Fauk.

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Speaker 4: You know, first off, you're probably going to hook I

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Speaker 4: You know, he's not great at side to side. He's

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Speaker 4: You can't just you're not drafting two in Alabama with

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Speaker 4: I'm difference to gods in this where I was.

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Speaker 5: Some of his best players are incompletions R.

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Speaker 4: But you know you'll go to a grading site and go, oh,

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Speaker 4: He got the ball he made somebody miss at right

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Speaker 4: eighty Look at that. He's a winner. And that's where

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Speaker 3: What is the maximum amount of rockets one could have

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Speaker 5: Yes, no, three has been the max?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so that is a max compliment from Chris

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Speaker 3: Sims when he had three rockets up your ass.

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Speaker 4: Definitely, it's it's like Tyreek Kill has been three rockets?

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Speaker 5: Right, Yes, it's that kind of guy.

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Speaker 5: What if that help?

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Speaker 4: got big, big playability and it would not shock me

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Speaker 2: to talk to you about your your quarterback rankings and

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Speaker 2: your running back rankings that you put out, But first

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Speaker 2: to ask you, Yeah, based on everything we've seen, is

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Speaker 2: the gap between Tier one bigger for running backs from

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh that's a good. I'm gonna say it's bigger

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Speaker 5: The game.

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Speaker 2: I was worried you were going to say that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jar is really good.

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Speaker 4: I mean Jadaria at a point when we were talking

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Speaker 4: Mendoza's tough, as hell. Mendoza is just one good decision

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Speaker 5: That's what I kind of took away from it, were

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Speaker 4: Oh, there he is, get hit in the face throwing

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Speaker 4: Yes, so, and ty Simpson's really good, but there's some

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I liked him a lot. He's certainly in

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Speaker 4: But I think the gap between him and Mendoz is

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Speaker 1: It seemed like Mendoza surprised you. Is that fair? You

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Speaker 4: I've seen as far as quarterback. And I wrote this

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Speaker 5: And then if you meet him in person, you're like,

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Speaker 4: You're prepared for everything, you know everything about everybody, and

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Speaker 5: Guy, right, And I give him credit for that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I pick up the wrong way. I know what

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Speaker 5: That's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Speaking of Burrow, are you a little worried about

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Speaker 2: Mendoza going into a similar situation as Burrow where he's

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: I I guess yes, But but I think they realize

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Speaker 4: And that's why you love Mendoza the Raiders, because Mendoza

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Speaker 4: gonna do a ton of that with Kun Kubiak, who

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Speaker 3: Chris, what's going on in Minnesota is interesting to me,

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Speaker 3: and we'll get to it in just a second.

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Speaker 1: But I'm wondering here to it's with Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Kyler to Minnesota, who has the better chance of I guess,

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Speaker 1: I love to it to Atlanta. By the way, I

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Speaker 5: Was it's a good fit. It is a good fit. Hey,

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Speaker 4: Kevin Stefanski, you know, he just had a Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I like it there, and I certainly see

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Speaker 4: could see him winning that job. Michael Pennix has not

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Speaker 4: done enough, and I don't think he's done enough behind

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Speaker 4: about where he's at. But I think either of situation,

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Speaker 4: the passer. That's one of the things they're good at.

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Speaker 4: They got two really good tackles on both sides of

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Speaker 4: at that one to be the most intriguing. And I

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Speaker 4: and we're going to see who wins it.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings, according to Diana Rassini, today, have decided to

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Speaker 4: Well, they're just protecting themselves. I think it's pretty you know,

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Speaker 4: it's so JJ McCarthy is played one year and he's

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Speaker 5: Worry about that.

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Speaker 4: And then you got Kyler Murray, who's small, he's one,

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Speaker 4: So I think, you know, Carson Wentz gives them a

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Speaker 5: And I think it's more about that.

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Speaker 4: messed up some years because we didn't have adequate backups

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Speaker 2: But you don't see that Carson Wentz chose to go back.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they they gave him some indication that you are

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Speaker 5: Well, he's sees blood in the water.

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Speaker 4: He just goes, wait, I don't have a lot of

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Speaker 4: opportunities here, and this is one where, you know, I

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Speaker 4: think next to these guys every day, I can show

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Speaker 4: that I'm you know, I'm right up there with them

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Speaker 4: a little bit and yeah, maybe be a number two

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Speaker 4: or he's just sitting here going.

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Speaker 5: Wait, I can be with O'Connell.

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Speaker 4: If I do get a chance to go in, I

450
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Speaker 4: know it's a place I can look good. Hey, these

451
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Speaker 4: guys get hurt, so I could end up in the

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Speaker 4: football game, and you just want to put yourself in

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Speaker 4: a spot where you know you can succeed if you

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Speaker 4: do get in. And I think that's where it's good

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Speaker 3: The frustrating thing with Kyler Murray is he could sit

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Speaker 3: on the couch, play video games for eighteen months, get

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Speaker 3: off the couch and walk on any athletic.

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Speaker 1: Field that he's the best athlete on the field. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's what right.

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Speaker 3: But you think O'Connell might have a chance or probably

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Speaker 3: the best chance of bringing something special out of Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 5: I hope so.

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Speaker 4: And you know to that, that's where Kyler Murray I

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Speaker 4: think has to up his game. Yeah, he's got to

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Speaker 4: up his game, and hopefully he can learn that being

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Speaker 4: around with Carson Wentz, even a JJ McCarthy and seeing

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Speaker 4: how they approach it. But yees, O'Connell's gonna have a standard.

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Speaker 4: And it's always a little bit of a shock. People think, oh,

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Speaker 4: I was with a good offensive coordinator and I did this,

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Speaker 4: and I did that. I know football, And then you

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Speaker 4: get it with an O'Connell, you know, a Shanahana McVeigh

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Speaker 4: and Andy Reid, a Josh McDaniels, like, holy shit, I

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Speaker 4: don't know anything. I mean, they're teaching me stuff that

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Speaker 4: I never really realized the nuance of that they're holding

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Speaker 4: me to a standard that I've been with some other

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Speaker 4: good offensive coaches, the standards not been like this, right,

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Speaker 4: So there's gonna be a shock, you know, a shock there,

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Speaker 4: like what Caleb Williams went through last year. What every

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Speaker 1: Holy shit. I have a coach. He's holding me account to.

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Speaker 3: So, how do the coaches like in terms of this

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One.

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Speaker 4: Well, and they first they first start down that road

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Speaker 4: with showing them visual evidence of the plays working before, right, right,

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Speaker 4: So you got to be a salesman. They go in

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Speaker 5: Hey, look look look at this play.

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Speaker 5: Look at Joe bo and you know, the players per

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Speaker 4: And then you know, he shows another play ten years

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Speaker 4: and then it's okay.

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Speaker 5: So it gets you excited to do it, and then

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Speaker 5: they go out in the field a few.

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Speaker 4: Times and you're like, damn every time he calls that

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Speaker 4: play and I just read that key that he talks about. Yeah, shit,

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Speaker 4: it's it's a good play, and everybody thinks I'm awesome

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Speaker 4: because yes, right, And.

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Speaker 5: That's where you get onto me.

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Speaker 4: You know, you hear me say sometimes like it's a

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Speaker 4: silver platter completion by Shanahan and Rigbay, like you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get them wide open if you can just

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Speaker 4: throw it over here.

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Speaker 5: It's a big play. And yeah, that's how it happens.

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Speaker 4: And that's why you always hear those guys leave those

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Speaker 4: places and go, oh my gosh, their.

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Speaker 5: A genius, third genius, third genus.

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Speaker 1: I love that shit. Yeah, yeah, that's so gat right.

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Speaker 3: They tell you months in advance, Hey, don't worry, it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be open. You get out on the field and

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Speaker 3: holy shit, it's.

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Speaker 4: Oh right, he's just like you know, he told me,

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Speaker 4: and he told me to like, watch this guy and

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Speaker 4: if he leans that way, it means it's this coverage,

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Speaker 4: it's like he's right every time. I'm that experience with

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Speaker 4: Shanahan and Tampa Bay. Really yeah, Tampa Bay. When he

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Speaker 4: was quality control, we got into a game and he

574
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Speaker 4: was starting to get more and more confident with giving

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Speaker 4: me little clues on the sideline and things like that

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Speaker 4: and speaking his mind, and he kind of showed me

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Speaker 4: something about the nickelback one time and he goes, listen,

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Speaker 4: if he plays like this again, I've been watching them

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Speaker 4: all game, it's quarters.

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Speaker 5: If he plays like this, it's Tampa two.

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Speaker 4: And I remember I got out there and I was like, man,

582
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure what coverage it is, and I looked

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Speaker 4: over the nickel and I went, damn. Kyle said, if

584
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Speaker 4: he plays like this, it's quarters, And man, shit, if

585
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Speaker 4: he wasn't right, like every freaking time, and I and

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Speaker 4: you know, that's the kind of stuff he can do.

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Speaker 3: Because he's putting the work in the time and he's

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Speaker 3: the film in a way that you were not telling

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Speaker 3: you how to do something exactly right, and so it

590
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Speaker 3: feels like your coach is right exactly.

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Speaker 4: He understands the rules to a t to be able

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Speaker 4: to teach it exactly. I love that the Jets have

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Speaker 4: never had that go ahead was.

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Speaker 2: He or any other coach ever wrong where you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this, and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: they did it and you go and you look at

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Speaker 2: him like you you fucking told me, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It was I could you know Gruden had that ability

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Speaker 4: to be good like that too.

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Speaker 5: But here here's a good one. We got into my

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Speaker 5: second year.

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Speaker 4: I was the starter and then I got hurt my shoulder,

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Speaker 4: and then Brian Greasie came in and took over, and

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Speaker 4: then late in the year they put me back in.

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Speaker 5: It was healthy. We're playing Arizona Cardinals EMMITTT.

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Speaker 4: Smith's last game as an NFL football player, Okay, and

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Speaker 4: they had a three four defense. They were kind of

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Speaker 4: a pain in the butt on defense, and they blitzed

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Speaker 4: a lot and brought different coverages. So all week Gruden

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Speaker 4: gave us these clues. He's like, listen, when this guy

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Speaker 4: steps on the line of scrimmage, it's this blitz. Okay,

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Speaker 4: and this coverage and they only step one guy on

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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage and do it, and then you

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Speaker 4: know it's coming from over here, and and like you know,

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Speaker 4: you watch years of film and you go, I mean

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Speaker 4: the whole season of film, and you go, yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent proof, right, He's right every time they

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Speaker 4: do this this this blitz blah blah blah. So we

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Speaker 4: had all these checks in the game kind of in

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Speaker 4: the game plan, coupled with other plays we get to,

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Speaker 4: like the second or third play of the game, we

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Speaker 4: got a pass play, but we got you know, check, check, check.

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Speaker 5: If that guy walks.

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Speaker 4: To the line of scrimmage, well you know blue forty

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Speaker 4: five blue for about the guy walks to the line

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Speaker 4: of scrimmage and I'm like, oh, Gruden's right here, we go,

627
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Speaker 4: we got him. Well, as he's doing that, I look across.

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Speaker 4: I go, well, shit, the other guy's walking on the

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Speaker 4: line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 5: About this one. What do we do if you told

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Speaker 5: me to check of that guy?

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Speaker 4: And you know, I had to orchestrate the protection according

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Speaker 4: to where the guy in the line of scrimmage was.

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Speaker 4: And I'm going there on both sides what do you

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Speaker 4: want me to And I remember I was like Blueitty five,

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Speaker 4: and I remember I kind of looking over.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, we're screwed. I don't know what you want

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Speaker 5: me to do here.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So it took us like a quarter to kind

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Speaker 4: of like readjust the game plan because we realized they

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Speaker 4: self scattered themselves and change their damn rules.

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Speaker 5: This is over. And it was annoying.

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Speaker 3: Holy shit, we have no idea what we're watching.

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Speaker 5: Dropping back, I got like, I don't know. We're protected.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: That's so funny.

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Speaker 3: Quickly before we get you out of here, I know

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Speaker 3: you gotta run. I love the deal for both teams.

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins are rebuilding. Get a first and a third

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Speaker 3: round pick for Wadle.

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Speaker 4: Great trade, great trade, great trade for both You said

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Speaker 4: it right. The Denver Broncos have no needs. They have nothing.

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Speaker 4: That was their only need. I was a football team.

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Speaker 4: Their defensive set. They got an all star defense, they

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Speaker 4: got a good old line. They got two running backs

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Speaker 4: they like in R. J. Harvey and JK. Dobbins. The

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Speaker 4: tight ends good. They got second and third receivers. We

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Speaker 4: talked about a lot during the year. They're missing an

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Speaker 4: offensive playmaker. And then you couple that with Sean Payton

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Speaker 4: his offense. We know he knows how to get slot

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Speaker 4: guys open, whether it was Brandon Cooks back of the

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Speaker 4: day or Michael Thomas who was a bigger guy, but

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Speaker 4: they still got.

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Speaker 5: Him open over the middle of the field all the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where Jalen Watta's gonna be able to take

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Speaker 4: pressure off the offense. It was a dire need for them.

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Speaker 4: So that's a big one. And then you know they.

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Speaker 5: Don't know what they're gonna get at the end of

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Speaker 5: the first round.

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Speaker 4: If somebody like that at receiver position is gonna be

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Speaker 4: available and Pa.

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Speaker 1: He ain't gonna be Wattle, right.

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Speaker 4: And he ain't gonna be Wattle, and he's not gonna

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Speaker 4: be seasoned veteran to where you go, Wait, we're a

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Speaker 4: super Bowl team, but I don't know how much we

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Speaker 4: can put on this guy's plate as a rookie, So

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Speaker 4: this is where you do that. And then, like you said, Miami, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're looking to the future. The only thing I think

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Speaker 4: with Miami is just go, damn, can we leave some

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Speaker 4: players for Milik Willis so he can look good. Yes,

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Speaker 4: that was where it kind of surprised me that way,

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Speaker 4: but but you know, good for Miami to trim the

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Speaker 4: fat and start to hopefully build a young nucleus around

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Speaker 4: Malik Willis in the future.

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Speaker 1: I mean h is still there for now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he will be, because like this, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna have to do something crazy to get him.

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Speaker 5: Jeff Hafley's a defensive coach.

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Speaker 4: Bobby Slowick is Shanahan Kubiak, he wants to run the ball.

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Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel just had eight chan Kubiak was with Mike

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Speaker 4: McDaniel before, so he knows he fits that offense.

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Speaker 5: And he's making minimal money.

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Speaker 4: So it's not like one where you're like, oh, that'll

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Speaker 4: change our whole salary cap situation.

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Speaker 5: I think he's making like five million dollars this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you'd have to blow them out of the water to

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Speaker 5: trade get him off their books.

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Speaker 3: I think, just quickly here, Chris for the Dolphin fans

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Speaker 3: who don't know about the two guys because it seems

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Speaker 3: like they have a plan and they're executing that plan.

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Speaker 3: They don't know the two guys the Dolphins hired as

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Speaker 3: head coach and general manager from the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: You like these guys. These guys are good, they know

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Speaker 1: what they're doing. Yes, totally.

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Speaker 4: Halfley is a football, football guy, and I mean he's impressive.

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Speaker 5: It's football all the time.

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Speaker 4: He's a defensive version of some of the offensive geniuses

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Speaker 4: we talked about. Plus he's got the ability I think,

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Speaker 4: to relate to players and command a room and all that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know Sullivan all that well, so I can't

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Speaker 4: speak to the personal aspect of it. All I can

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Speaker 4: speak to is Green Bay has been good at football

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Speaker 4: for twenty forever.

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Speaker 5: They're always relevant.

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Speaker 4: They know how to scout, they have a plan, they

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Speaker 4: know how to build a team. And that's why you

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Speaker 4: love Sullivan coming there from Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 3: PFT with Mike Florio every day on Peacock The Unbuttoned

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Speaker 3: Podcast as well Football Night in America Sunday Night, Football

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Speaker 3: one Football rolls around again.

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Speaker 1: We fucking miss it so much.

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Speaker 3: God, I mean, we wanted to get through the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: We did, and then a week later I missed football.

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Speaker 5: This is bull I'm with you. I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm hoping you enjoy some basketball this weekend and get

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Speaker 4: going from there.

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Speaker 3: All right, man, we'll talk to you again, Sims. I

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Speaker 3: want to do this. I want to have you on

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Speaker 3: and talk about non football things.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Can we do that? Can we? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I continue. I want to talk about football notes.

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Speaker 5: I want to talk about we can mix it together.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about I want to talk about

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Speaker 3: the fact that he can't find time to go to

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Speaker 3: the dentist.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want.

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Speaker 5: To I'm missing a tooth. I freaking too.

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Speaker 1: Tell Mikey, hey, how long you've been missing that too?

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Speaker 5: Since August? I'm being missing that too, So I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I gotta go, Yeah, I gotta go.

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Speaker 1: Correlates with football seasons. You're the basketball in the football seasons.

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Speaker 1: See you guys be getting