Speaker 1: Second date, up date, you're going back home for the
Speaker 1: holidays can be really fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm so exciting.
Speaker 1: It can be great to reconnect with your siblings again,
Speaker 1: your grandparents, relatives you haven't seen in a while, and
Speaker 1: if you're really lucky, you might even see someone from
Speaker 1: your past and have a little holiday hookups.
Speaker 3: Family not your family, and.
Speaker 2: When everybody goes out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally exactly.
Speaker 1: Didn't your old pe coach reconnect and get the second
Speaker 1: base or something?
Speaker 2: No, he married.
Speaker 5: I think one of my other friends.
Speaker 1: Oh too bad for you, Brooke, mister Chance. But one
Speaker 1: of our listeners, Simone, reconnected with someone recently, not a
Speaker 1: next boyfriend. It was just a guy from her high school.
Speaker 1: And I'm curious about how it went down because she's
Speaker 1: on the phone right now, Simone. So what was this
Speaker 1: a fellow student or a faculty member?
Speaker 6: Oh my god, it was not a faculty member. Okay.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I hooked up with more guys from my high
Speaker 5: school way post high school than I did in high school.
Speaker 2: I was too dorky in high school. Nobody wanted to
Speaker 2: I try. It's not that I didn't try.
Speaker 3: Some are late and some skankers. What we call it bloomers,
Speaker 3: all right, as long as you get it done. So someone,
Speaker 3: who is this guy that you met up with?
Speaker 6: So his name is Jack and we reconnected over Facebook
Speaker 6: because I had posted that I was coming home and
Speaker 6: I was really excited to spend time with my family
Speaker 6: and friends, like for the holidays, and I was trying
Speaker 6: to kind of give everybody a heads up that I
Speaker 6: went to school with so we could try to plan
Speaker 6: something and all catch up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like like a mini informal reunion almost.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And did you know that you wanted to hook
Speaker 1: up with him immediately or did you want to wait
Speaker 1: and see.
Speaker 3: How it went well?
Speaker 6: So that's the thing is that, like this, this is
Speaker 6: a guy that we've never dated. We were always kind
Speaker 6: of floating around in like neighboring circles, but we were
Speaker 6: never super close.
Speaker 2: Okay, and got it.
Speaker 6: He was one of the first people to comment on
Speaker 6: this post. I was like, Oh, this would be great,
Speaker 6: would love to catch up. And I was like catch up,
Speaker 6: Like what do we have to talk about? Like we
Speaker 6: didn't you.
Speaker 5: Know, you know some people who stay in the hometown
Speaker 5: that you're from.
Speaker 2: Yes, maybe need some outside influence.
Speaker 5: Everyone to watch this city is what she's saying.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you, I will not miss an opportunity
Speaker 6: to show off my glow up. So okay, that good.
Speaker 3: So what did you and Jack do when you met up?
Speaker 6: Well, this is the thing. So we were texting for
Speaker 6: a while until I got back and trying to make
Speaker 6: plans and I was staying with my family, so I
Speaker 6: was like, why don't we just make it easy. You
Speaker 6: can come pick me up from my family's place and
Speaker 6: we'll go wherever you want to go.
Speaker 5: Oh, so this feels more like a date than a
Speaker 5: hangout if it's just you.
Speaker 6: Too, Yeah, I guess so I think maybe. I don't
Speaker 6: know if that was the intention, but things kind of
Speaker 6: ended up taking life turn and it wasn't really anybody's fault.
Speaker 6: But he came to pick me up when I was fit.
Speaker 6: I just finished dinner with my family, and my family
Speaker 6: was like, oh, you know, why don't you come in
Speaker 6: for a second, which I kind of gave him the
Speaker 6: look of like you don't have to do this, But
Speaker 6: he was very cool and came in and be all
Speaker 6: we're just hanging It was really sweet, like we were
Speaker 6: all hanging out for a while and like because like
Speaker 6: It's not like.
Speaker 2: He knew your family in high school. You guys weren't even.
Speaker 4: Really pressure situation.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know if that happened to me, I would
Speaker 1: absolutely not want to go inside there. I do not
Speaker 1: want to spend my precious free time during the holidays
Speaker 1: meeting some other person's family.
Speaker 4: I love meeting families, yeah.
Speaker 2: But not people meeting mine.
Speaker 5: And parents always love me so much.
Speaker 1: Okay, we get it, Brook, You're amazing everybody person in
Speaker 1: the world, and everyone wants to go.
Speaker 5: Their kids don't like me, but they like Okay, Well,
Speaker 5: so what happened with Jack.
Speaker 6: Well, so we're all talking and we ended up like
Speaker 6: playing some games and everybody was played.
Speaker 7: A good time.
Speaker 4: So the full on like time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean I didn't mean for that to happen.
Speaker 6: It just kind of did.
Speaker 4: Playing the piano, singing carols together.
Speaker 2: He was into it though, Yeah.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 6: And I will say this, my dad was a little tipsy,
Speaker 6: which around the holidays is not a surprise. Yeah, And
Speaker 6: he was kind of ribbing them a little bit, like
Speaker 6: what are your intentions with my daughter? I know, I know.
Speaker 1: Let me go to the laundry room and then I'll
Speaker 1: show you.
Speaker 3: Is that not how your guys' family holidays.
Speaker 5: I never had to take take my dad into the
Speaker 5: laundry room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a pe teacher, I know. How did Jack
Speaker 3: handle the ribbing?
Speaker 6: He just kind of laughed it off, and finally I
Speaker 6: kind of pulled him aside and I was like, hey, listen,
Speaker 6: we can get out of here whenever you need to,
Speaker 6: like we already were here a lot longer than I thought.
Speaker 6: And he was like, I just got a text from
Speaker 6: where my friends and they really need me, so I
Speaker 6: actually I have to get going. And he's like, well, well,
Speaker 6: we'll catch up in a few days. And of course,
Speaker 6: in my head, I'm like, did he really get a
Speaker 6: text from his friend or I think that maybe he didn't.
Speaker 5: I don't know, like maybe he thought you guys were
Speaker 5: just going out as friends, and then your dad is
Speaker 5: assuming that you're a couple. Like it just it feels
Speaker 5: like a lot of weirdness.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree. And the way we left it was
Speaker 6: we'll make more plans, we'll text and we'll figure it out.
Speaker 6: And then just never heard back from him.
Speaker 4: Man, all complete ghost.
Speaker 6: It's not like he's stalling, no, no, Like I just
Speaker 6: he just went radio silent and so I don't know
Speaker 6: what happened.
Speaker 2: Are you crushing on him? Still?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 2: You still like him?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean especially too, like seeing how cool he
Speaker 6: was with paying out with my family for a little bit,
Speaker 6: that's impressing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I did have a weird thought though, like, while he
Speaker 1: was bonding with your family, do you have any single
Speaker 1: siblings or or single hot aunts don that maybe like
Speaker 1: could have swooped in.
Speaker 6: No, I'm the only girl. I have two brothers.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's an option for him though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a chance that someone could have
Speaker 1: taken him from you, right from under your nose.
Speaker 5: Probably messed up family dynamics. If that's the case, it's.
Speaker 3: Called the holidays broke. Things happen.
Speaker 1: But let's find out what really happened when we play
Speaker 1: a song. Come back, call him and try and get
Speaker 1: your second date update.
Speaker 6: All right, thank you?
Speaker 3: All right, hold on second date update.
Speaker 1: One of the main rules of dating, and I think
Speaker 1: everybody knows this is if you really like someone, you
Speaker 1: do not introduce them to your family for at least
Speaker 1: three to four years until you're one hundred percent sure
Speaker 1: they won't be scared off. Wow, I would say probably
Speaker 1: even pop out a few kids with them before they
Speaker 1: meet the family, just to be safe. Or you could
Speaker 1: end up like Simone who was supposed to go out
Speaker 1: with an old high school friend named Jack till her
Speaker 1: family invited him inside during the holidays, and look what happened.
Speaker 3: He ran away. Hasn't been heard from since that night.
Speaker 4: I should have heard your advice first show.
Speaker 5: Are we blaming the drunk dad? Is that where we're blaming?
Speaker 3: Or no, we don't know who to blame.
Speaker 4: That's where I'm leaning. I think that even though it's
Speaker 4: a joke, it's still very intimidating to know your dad
Speaker 4: is even thinking that.
Speaker 5: It's such an old cliche joke, like realish my gun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Simon, do you wish that you hadn't let him
Speaker 1: come inside that house that night?
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, we know where to send it up.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely true the answer, Oh my god. I mean,
Speaker 2: or do you wish that your dad was funnier?
Speaker 6: I mean he thinks he's funny, which is way worse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well we're gonna try and get you
Speaker 1: a second chance here. We're gonna call Jack and find
Speaker 1: out which member of your family is the one to blame.
Speaker 3: Or maybe it was something that was totally unrelated.
Speaker 7: Love.
Speaker 4: We think it has to be the fame.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, yeah.
Speaker 3: It's like the holiday edition of Clue.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, is it the mom in the kitchen with
Speaker 5: the butcher knife or Colonel Father.
Speaker 3: Let's get to the bottom of this. I'm gonna Dilla's
Speaker 3: number right now. Here we go.
Speaker 1: Hello, my nose brush the microphone.
Speaker 3: Hey is this Jack?
Speaker 7: Uh? Yes, this is he?
Speaker 2: You are aking ready? I like Jack?
Speaker 3: I know you see Jack. You're You're on the radio
Speaker 3: right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I seem alert because I enter business call.
Speaker 5: Uh this is kind of a business call.
Speaker 2: It's about your business.
Speaker 1: Ye, your personal business with an old friend of yours
Speaker 1: name Simone.
Speaker 7: Wait, what is this about? What's going on?
Speaker 1: This is about a segment we do on our show
Speaker 1: called a second Date Update, and our listeners will reach
Speaker 1: out to us sometimes and ask us to help them
Speaker 1: reconnect with an old fling or an old date that
Speaker 1: they went out with that they haven't heard from in
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 7: Okay, but I'm not old. I'm not an old person.
Speaker 1: Old people, you answered a phone number that you didn't
Speaker 1: recognize that is old, So.
Speaker 2: That Jack, I bet you're regretting it right now.
Speaker 7: I was just you know, I thought maybe something was
Speaker 7: wrong with my car's extended warranty.
Speaker 1: It's okay, Yeah, Look, we all make mistakes, and your
Speaker 1: mistake was answering this call. But we do want to
Speaker 1: get some answers because Simone told us that you guys
Speaker 1: hung out the other night, and you.
Speaker 7: Know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I
Speaker 7: just now I don't think I want to do.
Speaker 2: This, okay?
Speaker 5: Is it because it wasn't supposed to be a date
Speaker 5: with Simone? Is I supposed to just be more like
Speaker 5: of a friend hang out.
Speaker 7: Like No, no, no, no, no, no no. I'm definitely
Speaker 7: interested in Simone.
Speaker 1: Well I was interested was I mean, look, I know
Speaker 1: you're hesitant on talking about it, and I understand that,
Speaker 1: but can you put yourself in Simone's shoes here, because
Speaker 1: she was really looking forward to spending time with you
Speaker 1: and reconnecting.
Speaker 3: And I mean she had.
Speaker 1: No intention of the night going the way that it
Speaker 1: did where you were invited into her family's house.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean she thought you. I mean maybe she
Speaker 2: read it wrong.
Speaker 5: The only reason you guys stayed there was because she
Speaker 5: thought you were having a good time hanging out with
Speaker 5: her family and playing board games.
Speaker 7: Whoa, you guys know a lot about what happened.
Speaker 2: Like date detectives.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: We talked to some run She told us about what
Speaker 1: happened that night, and we were wondering if something happened
Speaker 1: while you were in the house with her family that
Speaker 1: made you No.
Speaker 7: No, it was just well it wasn't. It was just
Speaker 7: an uncomfortable situation.
Speaker 2: Okay, she feels bad for that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well no, but just no, not not going in
Speaker 7: and talking to her family. Her family was great, nice.
Speaker 3: And so great that maybe you hooked up with one
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 6: What.
Speaker 3: Okay, that was a theory that I had. I'm glad
Speaker 3: that we can squash it right now, but yeah, so
Speaker 3: he can.
Speaker 1: Definitely, was the text that you got the emergency text?
Speaker 3: Was that real or was that fake?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: No, it was not real. I did not I did
Speaker 7: not see the emergency.
Speaker 2: But she knew that.
Speaker 5: So don't feel bad admitting that. Like, I mean, it
Speaker 5: was pretty obvious what made you run from the house.
Speaker 7: So what made what made me need to leave is
Speaker 7: I was having a nice chat with her mom and
Speaker 7: as as we're talking I look over and I see
Speaker 7: some Christmas cards and I see one from Simone with
Speaker 7: another guy and they're both like nuggle up together, and
Speaker 7: it was like a it looked like a you know,
Speaker 7: a couple had sent a card and it was Simone
Speaker 7: and this dude.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, she didn't mention anything about an ex boyfriend,
Speaker 5: but obviously the card could have been sent out long before.
Speaker 2: And then they broke up, Like, really do you send
Speaker 2: Christmas card? I know, who brings a.
Speaker 5: Guy over to your house with your family? If you're
Speaker 5: dating someone else to a point where you're sending Christmas
Speaker 5: cards together? Like, why wouldn't you just ask Simone?
Speaker 2: Then? Why wouldn't you ask her?
Speaker 7: Because I just felt like, in order to not just
Speaker 7: escalate things, I wanted to I just you.
Speaker 2: Know, I well, you just wanted to jump to conclusions.
Speaker 4: I know you just took pictures recently.
Speaker 1: I know you don't want to have that awkward conversation
Speaker 1: with her, but I kind of do right now because
Speaker 1: she's on the other line listening and wants to be
Speaker 1: asked an awkward, escalating question.
Speaker 7: What I'm HI.
Speaker 6: In this whole time?
Speaker 7: This is like, this is so awkward.
Speaker 6: I know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's kind of cool that you went to
Speaker 7: these lengths to try to get a hold of me,
Speaker 7: but I just, you know, I just this is just
Speaker 7: really bizarre. So who is the guy? Come on, tell me?
Speaker 7: Are you seeing nobody? Are you in a relationship?
Speaker 1: Because like, okay, hold on, Jack, you're asking like five
Speaker 1: different questions.
Speaker 3: Let's just let's do one question at a time.
Speaker 2: Who's the guy?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: I was gonna start what kind of sweater are you
Speaker 3: wearing right now? Because that I might ease his tension
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 2: The guy.
Speaker 6: First of all, I can't believe you even saw that card.
Speaker 6: I I'm so mad at my mom right now.
Speaker 3: Why are you dating that guy?
Speaker 6: Not technically.
Speaker 2: What your parents are wing? Wing Manny your side piece.
Speaker 6: No, so listen, Okay, I'll be honest. That guy's is
Speaker 6: a guy that I dated for a while. We always
Speaker 6: did these stupid Christmas cards, and we're not exclusive. We
Speaker 6: are not together. We hook up every once in a while,
Speaker 6: but we're.
Speaker 2: Not there's a ginnasy.
Speaker 5: Okay, but you promise you're not exclusive with him?
Speaker 2: Oh, you're not exclusive? And you send Christmas cards out together?
Speaker 6: That seems Yeah, yeah, it was more of a joke
Speaker 6: because we would do it every year, so we kind
Speaker 6: of just kept up with the tradition because we both
Speaker 6: didn't want our families hassling us at the holidays for
Speaker 6: being single. So we were like, we should just do
Speaker 6: a Christmas card anyway, and that backfired so funny.
Speaker 7: So I just I'm actually, I mean, Simon, I really
Speaker 7: want to be with somebody that's emotionally available and not
Speaker 7: you know, still, even if it's not like you know,
Speaker 7: you're not exclusive, you're still seeing him. I just I'm
Speaker 7: just not comfortable being with somebody who's seeing other people.
Speaker 6: So I just, uh, well, that's the thing, is like
Speaker 6: I had a great time hanging out with you, and
Speaker 6: I really want to get to know you better. And
Speaker 6: I am not invested in this guy. Like I said,
Speaker 6: it's somebody that I dated, and it was just I
Speaker 6: didn't have anybody else I was interested in, and it
Speaker 6: was just you know, I'll call him later today and
Speaker 6: tell him that we can't see each other anymore.
Speaker 1: Really, Jack, is that something that you'd be into, because
Speaker 1: if you're willing to see her again, then we'll pay
Speaker 1: for that date.
Speaker 7: I have one question, did you hook up with him
Speaker 7: over the holidays.
Speaker 3: Would be honest. Here, Simon, did it happen and what
Speaker 3: sweater were you wearing at the time.
Speaker 6: It didn't happen over the holidays, but it has happened recently, all.
Speaker 1: Jack, I need an answer from you. What do you
Speaker 1: think one more date with Simone?
Speaker 3: We'll pay for it?
Speaker 7: I don't think so. And here's why.
Speaker 2: It's a healthier why.
Speaker 7: I feel like you could have told me that you
Speaker 7: were getting out of a relationship, and I just I can't.
Speaker 2: We get here.
Speaker 3: It's the holidays. Everybody's sad. We understand.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 5: Freaking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3: I was thinking, does that ever work on our show?
Speaker 1: After the person says no, I'm not interested, and they
Speaker 1: throw out one last ditch plea like hey.
Speaker 3: What if I break up with the other guy? Will
Speaker 3: you go out with me?
Speaker 2: Then it's like a hail Mary?
Speaker 3: Or what if I get a butt lift?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Or hey what if I put my dog down because
Speaker 3: you're allergic? My god, it's.
Speaker 2: Always n You made the boyfriend sound like the best option.
Speaker 1: I just can't think of a time where that strategy
Speaker 1: has ever worked, and she definitely gave it a try.
Speaker 5: God, I just have this feeling that the guy on
Speaker 5: the cards sweater Boy, doesn't know that they're not exclusive, yeah,
Speaker 5: because anyone else.
Speaker 4: Is always like that. The other one is always like what, wait,
Speaker 4: I thought you were my girlfriend?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We sent out Christmas.
Speaker 1: Cards for Yeah, how does it get more intimate than that?
Speaker 1: But clearly we're not going to be doing any update
Speaker 1: with that couple anytime soon. But remember you can always
Speaker 1: listen to any one of our second dates on YouTube,
Speaker 1: because we've got hundreds of them up right now, so
Speaker 1: a lot of people are actually choosing to listen to
Speaker 1: our show that way. And remember you can always reach
Speaker 1: out to us if you have a date that you
Speaker 1: want us to get a hold of.